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This is, uh, we in, we in, uh,
But we're in some times, man.
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We're in some times.
I don't even know how to start this show.
This is crazy.
I'm usually all right, but I'm not all right.
Today, I'm not all right.
Yesterday, I was not all right.
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101 7 Radio the award-winning truth a man is on the ground a Man is on the ground taste down Not moving the way a threat moves a police officer stands over him and fires three times Three times
Three times.
It happened two days ago, basically.
60 minutes up the road in Madison, Wisconsin.
Happened yesterday.
Sorry.
Yesterday.
Even worse.
And before I say one more word, I need to ask something that's been sitting on my chest since I saw that video.
Oh.
Do we as black people do we always have to prove?
It's about race while everybody else just just gets to walk away scot-free people get to walk away clean Clean as a whistle Today I'm walking this whole show like a tightrope on purpose Because that's exactly what it feels like to be us in this country
Balance or fall, comply or die.
I've been stopped by the police multiple times, more times than I can count.
More times than I can count.
And every single time, some part of my mind is doing math on whether or not I'm gonna make it home.
Like today we're gonna, we need to sit in that feeling together.
Like out loud, if you're next to your kids, if you are listening, you're riding down the street, you're doing whatever you're doing, doing whatever you're doing.
We're gonna sit with that.
We're gonna sit with the fact that we can't get a break.
There's no breaks.
As soon as you thought,
Man, I always say I wish I could cuss.
I'm not gonna cuss.
My mother listening.
But as soon as you feel like you can catch a break, we on cruise control from, you know, some of this racial bigotry.
As soon as we feel like we're on cruise control, as soon as we feel like things are smoothed out, you know, the thumb is lifted right off our, our necks just a little bit.
The foot, the foot is off our back.
The knee is off our neck.
As soon as we feel like it's coming just a little bit off our necks, boom.
Right then and there.
Right then and there.
It happens again.
It happens again and again and again over and over and over.
And now it's always.
Oh, we are, we know, you know, it's not isolated.
It's not isolated, man.
This is exactly what the system, what the politics, what the trigonology is doing to us.
It's making us think that this is normal.
This is not normal.
I got a friend in Saudi Arabia.
I got a friend in Saudi Arabia right now.
I got, I got friends in different parts of the world right now.
I got a friend who was stopped by a foreign cop.
He was stopped by a foreign cop.
The cop got out the car because my boy was speeding.
He was going 110 cop pulled him over and was like, man, before we start talking, let's pray the cop pray.
They prayed together.
And then he told my boy who was going 110 miles an hour in 80 in an 80 mile an hour limit area.
Told him that, Hey man, I need you to slow down.
Kids out here, you know, they're, they're trying to dry the speed limit to slow down.
Don't go 110 before they parted.
He prayed with this guy again and they left.
We're going to enter that conversation in a minute.
Then we're going to go global.
The US is now waging open war on Iran.
The oil choke points of the entire world are closing.
This is very serious.
This is serious.
The oil choke points are closing one by one.
All of them are now closed.
All of them.
And I'm going to show you exactly how that war reaches into your gas tank right here in Milwaukee.
Then we're going to go back home to grieve a man by the name of Keon Davis, a father, business owner, gunned down in his own shop.
And we got need to ask, when do we stop settling for conflict with the trigger?
And we're closing on, we're going to close with our kids.
in their screens because protecting our kids isn't just about bullets.
It's about what's riding their attention span in plain sight.
Dr. Claude Anderson taught us that a group that doesn't own anything can't protect anything.
Malcolm X taught us self-defense isn't violence, it's intelligence.
Dr. King taught us a riot
or protest or refusal is the language of the unheard.
I want to know who's right.
Today we're going to use our own language.
We're going to use our language.
So Milwaukee, I'm glad you tuned in to the great vine.
I'm glad you tuned in to the great vine.
Let me tell you exactly what everybody saw the video.
I want to play it, but I don't really want to play it because it's perpetuating what they already want us to see.
So I'm not going to play the video.
But because I don't want any confusion About where I stand But I'm going to give you my also going to give you my true so Wednesday Or I guess it was guess it was Wednesday says Thursday Wednesday, Wednesday afternoon Madison police were called About a man checking parked car doors.
He I guess he fled on on bike on a bike officers caught up with him near
I think, uh, the street was Baldwin and, and, and Williamson fight broke out.
He police say that he pulled a fixed blade out and cut an officer bystander shows officer wrestling him to the ground.
A taser is deployed.
A lady says taser, taser, taser just as.
One officer is grabbing him She then Is saying taser taser taser she pops the taser The the gentleman goes down the man goes down to the ground and then as they are about to engage Another guy another officer pulls his gun up and shoots him three times So then
It's in front of all of these witnesses and all of these witness corroborate the same exact thing Fires feet above this man's head and shoot some three times So I want to be straight with Milwaukee as of this show officials have not released This man's race and I'm not gonna see her and tell you that He was black but you know
He looked black to me.
But, however, but I can tell you this, down and tased and still shot is a pattern this country knows intimately.
When the person on the ground is one of us and that pattern is exactly why an entire city
erupted in protest within hours, whether this particular man turns out to be black or not.
We know the pattern.
We know this pattern.
We know the pattern of, of down and taken out.
We know that it's, it's a part of the fabric of who we are.
Kick them in the face, kick them in the, in the face, water down.
Throw sand in the face while they down Take them out while they down.
That's that is the fabric of this land That's the fabric of this land the Wisconsin Department of Justice is now investigating You know protesters they again shut down the the Madison Capitol, you know Madison people going
They're gonna protest until they can't protest.
We're gonna ask what are protests gonna do.
Honestly, what are protests gonna do?
Because on one side of the coin, Dr. Clyde Anderson says, if you don't own it, if you don't own it, it ain't yours.
If you don't own it, it's not yours.
So, you know, Governor Evers himself posted publicly demanding
Transparency.
But Milwaukee, when you saw three shots fired into a man already on the ground, tased, subdued, wrestled, all that, what did your body do before your mind even caught up?
I want you all to call in and tell me the truth of that reaction.
Like that reaction that gut level flinch.
You know, I live with that flinch every single day.
When we come back, I'ma tell you my story.
And then we're doing the math this country refuses to do.
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And, you know, right now I'm feeling the heat.
I think everybody else should be feeling the heat too.
Straight up.
Everybody else should be feeling this heat.
Because, honestly, when we have a young man, old man, any man, woman, child,
Being shot Without any Man, it's just sad.
It's just it's really sad It's sad man like I'm I'm at a loss for words because we're we're constantly under the rest Constantly we can't even thrive right now
We can't it's no thriving This is not about thriving when someone of your cultural group is Being accosted and then shot like an animal on in broad daylight in front of people In a college town It's more this is more than protest we honestly
I know four people that call me today and they said they're sick and tired of protesting.
They can't do it anymore.
I know a cop.
I know a cop called me today.
He's like, there's no more protesting.
He's a cop and he under, he watched this, he watched this, who was mad and my mother is listening.
He watched this video over and over again and I promise you, I promise you that.
He said there that he said from out of his mouth.
He said that was murder He said that was murder he said the only thing he would like to see is the cops body cam for the con for the conversation After he shot this young man or this man But even if he had a pocket knife a pocket knife a switchblade a Like come on man, even if he had that you you
This cop said, you even have phases against threat, a threat like that.
Y'all clear out.
Let me use the taser.
Y'all clear out.
Let me use the baton.
Come on.
Come on.
Y'all gotta be kidding me.
Kevin, what's up, man?
It's you, man.
I appreciate the call.
When I felt, when you said explain what happened, I screamed, man.
I screamed.
I'm scared, traumatized.
I'm wondering what day that's going to happen to me.
Where's the president?
It's just too much, man.
That's why I never get a joint again stuff like this.
You said we tired of protests gang members should go visit his house Visit every time this happens go go visit their house like you visit somebody to kill dope
No, you know you can say the right man because the cop listen the cop that that I talked to the cop that I talked to today said the same exact thing
He said, he said, it should be no way.
This is the cop telling me.
He was like, it should be no way that a cop would take somebody.
I keep him on the lines that it should be no way that he, this cop should not be.
No one should be not in front of his cop.
They should be in front of this cop's house.
Like not letting him sleep.
This, this is the cop saying this is my friend who was a cop.
Who's been in mad situations?
He said he'd been in hundreds of situations Hundreds in the south where they carry guns And he said hundreds of situations and guess what he had to shoot nobody Matter of fact, he boxed it up with somebody Box he boxed it with somebody Hmm box he was like all right come on man put the put the you know, whatever done he took his belt off and they boxed
Come
not
you're good.
No, you're good.
You saying like that.
Is this some type of movement?
Man,
the
thing.
I think the ones who running around here with their face covered up at all these, right, when they marching and stuff, those supremacists, I think a lot of them are the police officers.
And
way of their initiation.
but they killing too many black men too many getting hung in trees
women So I think that's them the ones that's doing it and that's their part of their initiation
I was like I was riding through I was riding through West Virginia coming back from Virginia Yet I was riding through West Virginia
And I've never seen a Confederate flag this big.
I mean, it was at least two stories high.
And it was in a tree.
It's me and my six year old daughter.
We looked at that flag.
She didn't know what that flag meant.
I had to like try to tell her, but she couldn't cognitively just get it.
But I knew when I saw that flag, I was like, I'm out of here.
I'm going.
I want to hunt it through West Virginia.
Black conscious.
What's up?
Peace, brother, because I'm blacker than black because I'm black, y'all.
So listen here, this is the truth that we're going to tell the truth.
Um, with the last caller, um, you can stop thinking they are intertwined in the law enforcement.
They are intertwined in the just judicial system.
They, the, the people that don't have.
our best interests are intertwined in the armed services.
Yes, that was a black man because they would have had a little bit more compassion, especially after screaming, Taser, Taser, Taser.
And even after you have this person down, that other person went against all training and all rules to pull this hang gun.
So what we know, they ain't releasing nothing because they're not going to bring up charges on this person.
It's going to be called justifiable.
That's why they listed the weapons.
those crappy weapons that he's accused of having, because we don't know, and they're going to run with that.
Also, to ask your questions about King and X, they all are true in their perspective.
They're always speaking their truth from their perspective.
And it's beyond sad, it's pathetic.
But I agree, we should not protest because then we're going to have those individuals who go and tear up stuff,
in the name of opportunists.
our
co-opted.
And there's also going to be intertwined for individuals that's not coming here with the true intent of protest about the injustice that to take upon opportunities to tear up stuff in our communities where they know it won't be rebuilt or replaced.
That's right.
So these things we know what we're gonna do different I wish I had the answer for it, but what we're gonna do different
no, no, hold on.
Hold on.
Yeah, until you see that price tag of going back to Africa then we're gonna go back to Capitol so So when that comes along and when they do but to something the other the college has said Do not be we're not gonna live in fear We're gonna look them in the eye
walk this earth with the justice that you were promised when you're doing everything accordingly to what you know is righteousness.
Yeah, if you out here foul and you doing stuff, okay, but sentence of gang bangers to a cop house is only gonna mean more black folks dead.
Because that's gonna be a justifiable reason.
I fell for me and my family life.
I don't have a family.
Well, I feel for my, I feel for my dog life and they would shoot up the place and be justifiable.
What's happening?
How you doing, man?
Man, doing good.
Man.
Hey, I just wanted to put my little two cents in, man.
You know, things are crazy and I don't, I don't understand.
But here's what I do know.
I know these cops, man.
They take training and shooting courses and all this, man.
And I could never understand for the life of me, Pham.
If you do all this target practice and shooting, Pham, why do you have to shoot and kill?
Like you can stop a person and shoot them in the leg, shoot the hand, that's a holding the knife.
Pham, I don't understand why we have to kill people.
Why do cops shoot to kill?
I never hear about nobody getting shot by the police.
And he was shot in the leg and the police slowed him down.
every time they pull out their weapons, it's deadly force.
Why is that?
I thought they used to shoot a warning shot I thought back in the day before they had to shoot you.
I thought they used to have to give you a warning shot.
I may be wrong, but that's what I thought back in the day.
They used to give you a warning shot before they shot you.
Now they just, they just drag you down, man.
Cause they know they don't get away with it, man.
You know what I mean?
It's crazy.
some of the tactics that I heard because we used to train cops in the karate school in the dojo.
We still got cops in the dojo in the karate school right now, but I guarantee you, I guarantee you that the cops that we trained, majority of them, didn't have to use any type of, matter of fact, they used their hands more than they used the weapons, because they knew how to use their hands.
That's probably right, man.
He's
crazy, man.
I really don't get it, brother.
We're talking about the shooting down in Madison Well, we won't on the grapevine when we come back.
We're gonna continue this conversation We're gonna take some more calls y'all call in tell us what y'all think about the shooting down in Madison What would you do?
Are you gonna protest when we come back in three?
Yes, we back.
We're back on the grapevine.
We're picking some more grapes.
We're gonna take another caller We're talking about the we're talking about the situation that happened the shooting of a Young man gentlemen in Madison, Wisconsin shot dead by cop We're talking about what would you do?
This is the aftermath of what happened in Madison
We're going to take some calls and we're going to hit the chat too.
Y'all keep it up on the chat, man.
What would y'all do if you were in that situation, down in Madison, something happened?
What would you do?
You protesting or what you doing?
What's the answer?
Marlon, what's up, man?
Hey, how you doing?
I don't think protest is the answer because you have to because even though you protest and it does bring
eyes onto the situation that it does make some people uncomfortable.
You also have to plot and plan as your next steps.
I
think that is part of the issue, even when like George Floyd, remember people were protesting around the world, but there was nothing next.
And now everything is still the same.
We didn't try to get rid of qualified immunity.
We didn't try to do all that.
We didn't push our legislature to change anything and nothing changes.
You know,
And the Department of Justice did do a fact finding probably about four or five years ago.
And they said that the law enforcement is being infiltrated with a lot of white supremacists.
So that is, that is very, that is that's knowledgeable.
That's out there.
Yeah, that's out there.
And the last thing is it is always going to be hard to, to, to convict a police officer.
because there was a ruling ground versus Connor, uh, by the, by the Supreme court and basically the Supreme court said it is, it is, it is not, it is not, it is not reasonable to hold a officer to, um, to his thoughts.
So like, if he thinks something is happening at the time, you cannot hold him, like you cannot hold him reliable or responsible for what he does because he thought that this action was going on.
So if he thinks, and the other thing is they teach this stuff in the police academy.
So what happens is something like this happens, they say, well, I thought that he had XYZ, whether it's a knife, I thought he's going to do this.
And they're never going to get convicted because of that law right there.
We have to learn these laws and stuff like that.
We have to start pushing our legislature or get them out of there.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially here in Wisconsin, there's a lot of, if us as black people voted in a block and we voted at high numbers, there's nothing the rest of the state could even do because we have some people that are Democrat who would vote with us.
And then you have the majority of black people who vote with us.
There is nothing the state can do.
Now, do we have to worry about the legislator, like local stuff around?
You know, around the state, yeah, because, you know, those are, they're, they're being voted in by people around those areas, but we have to figure out how to move and maneuver to get what we want.
Right now we want to get rid of qualified immunity or we want to stop pleaser killing us.
So how do we do that?
There's a lot of different ways we got to do that, but we have to sit down or somebody has to sit down and think about it and then direct people what to do.
But, you know, I don't know how much people are really into that or not.
But that's what's going on.
And we're going to talk about, we're going to talk about Graham versus Conner.
Real quick, as what Marlon was saying, he was saying that in Graham versus Conner, in basically layman's terms, it's the Fourth Amendment's objective.
reasonableness standards should apply.
This means that courts look at the facts as they were known at the time from the perspective of a reasonable officer, not from the benefit or of, of hindsight or the officer's personal attention, personal intentions.
What this means in plain terms, if you claim, if you claim police use too much force, the court won't add, won't just ask if the officer meant to hurt you.
Here's the language.
Instead, it will ask.
Given what the officer knew, would a similarly trained and experienced officer have acted the same way?
The officer's good intentions or bad intentions don't change the outcome.
Only whether that action was reasonable under the circumstances.
So all they be able to do is just look to their policies, look to, you know, other court cases and then boom, you have a, you have something going on.
You, you got.
They can get off scot free.
But what I do know from the cops that I have, that I know that have multiple levels of training, higher levels of training, been in many different types of situations, been in, you know, uh, many, many different types of situations.
You name it.
I even know cops that went to war and came back.
I mean, come on.
And it still ain't touched nobody.
Still ain't shot nobody.
deal with PTSD and everything.
But have the decency to hold their guns.
Have the decency to not shoot a person that's down.
Like, yeah, you may, here's the thing.
You made the cop on, there was a cop that, I'm pretty sure everybody has seen this video of a cop running from.
This guy who was who was, uh, he was this white guy who was in somewhere in Milwaukee.
He was about to arrest this, this, this white guy is white cop and white guy that he was trying to approach.
The guy gets out of his car and runs after the cop full speed.
The cop throws a little haymaker and falls down, but he turns his back and is running from the cop.
He doesn't get shot.
The cop is scared.
That's one side of fear.
The other side of fear, yes, is a cop pulling out their gun to shoot somebody.
That's the other side of fear.
But we do know that there are phases in confrontation.
There are phases in conflict that everybody knows cops should be going through.
Think about it.
If a cop has a conflict or a confrontation with a person and they pull out a knife, where that knife is pointing, we'll determine what the cop does.
If that person puts the knife to their throat, now the cop can say, hey man, look, don't put the knife to your throat.
You're going to take yourself out and then goes through their procedural methods in order to make sure that the person doesn't take themselves out.
Taser, boom!
Baton, boom!
Talk to the person, help them diffuse the situation, get their kids on the line.
Hey man, listen, I got your son on here, he's two years old, talk to him.
Dad, please, don't, whatever, don't kid, don't take yourself out.
Now, if the gun, if the person has a weapon,
Directed towards you.
There are methods in order to make sure especially if it's a knife and you're 20 feet away That doesn't mean you take that doesn't mean you take the person out.
Yes, it is a weapon But then you also have procedural methods in order to make sure that the person doesn't Doesn't attack anybody at all with the with the knife.
There are ways And I I know this because I've been around cops we've trained cops we
Had these conversations.
I know cops that can take a knife out of somebody's hand immediately with a baton or without a baton.
Straight up.
It has happened.
Man.
What are we going to do?
What are we going to do?
What are we going to stand up?
Some people say, man, it's always, no, yes, y'all made it like, listen, they made it about race.
They, meaning the Euro establishment made it about race.
We didn't have, it wasn't about race with before 1444.
It wasn't about race.
Nah, they made it about race.
They made it before 1452.
They made it about race.
Just before and now Pat now I any time after that made it about race.
They made it King Pope Nicholas Pope Catholic Pope.
Yes, Pope Nicholas made it about race.
So is it about race?
They made it about race and we are the ones.
We're the ones suffering the indifference.
We're the ones that suffer at the hands of the people that actually made it about race.
And then they want to cry wolf.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
It ain't always just about living in the present and focusing on the future.
That past, God, that past be talking to us too.
Straight up that past talks to us too.
A lot.
Man, it seems like we're on a tightrope.
It seems like we're on a tightrope and I was.
I was explained trying to explain this in my opening.
Seems like we're on a tightrope and it's getting skinnier and skinnier and skinnier every day.
Every day.
It seems like it's getting skinny.
We have to start explaining to our kids that it ain't always peaches and cream.
Man, we got a song about that peaches and cream.
It ain't always about peaches and cream.
Hey, y'all, when we come back, we're going to continue on this discussion.
We're going to talk about the tightrope.
We're going to talk about how we can miscalculate these traumas.
And we're going to take some more callers when we come back on the
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How you doing today?
How you doing, Miss Sandra?
I'm fine.
How are
you
Okay, I was listening and I called earlier too and we spoke about the situation with the guy that was killed in Madison and so I feel to me it's a depopulation thing for one and we have to go first You know, they're gonna kill the white people because they're doing that now with the ice to try to pretend
These are criminals and this and that.
But the criminals to me are the ones that ask these people, those are the criminals.
And I think my people need to speak up too.
They ain't speaking up.
And we march like you say.
But I think they're getting where to the point that whoever got the march together, if anything go down like it is George Floyd, you know, stuff like that, they're going to prove the person that got the march together.
So they're making all these rules, the regulations to keep us from marching.
So I think we need to get behind the iron curtain and come up with our strategy because that's what they used to do when Martin Luther King with Martin, you know, I mean, they go to the churches and do a strategy.
And see, they're going to try to put this with somebody in there like they did with
X.
They're going to try to institute somebody in there to tell everything we're doing because see they got the weapons.
These white people got everything.
They got a idea at the weapons.
They got everything and including the bunkers because they load it up in bunkers now because they're ready for this stuff.
yeah.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Because they know because people eventually will fight back so they know they're not going to let us ever win because that's a that's a period party.
They don't want us to ever you know overthrow them.
And so they got everything in place.
So I think the best thing for us is to do is get in the back right and grab our kids number one.
And we got to get some learning on them because they claim the kids are not doing good in school and this and that.
So we got to get together real good, get in the back doors and Aaron Curtin, like they did Project 2025 books.
Yeah.
They had
So that's where I feel.
I like that.
I like that, Miss Sandra.
Hey, y'all.
See, you gotta, man, Miss Sandra.
Listen, they need you in the strategy room straight up.
They need Miss Sandra in the strategy room.
She talked about depopulation.
They talked about education.
She also talked about how we need to get our, get our ish together because of the fact that, you know, there is, there is a depopulation movement.
That's like, that's plain front and center.
Like that's, that's not even the hidden, that's not even hidden in the trick bag.
The trick bag has turned out in terms of depopulation is that's real life.
That's happening right now.
They've already said it.
It's already said and done.
It's signed, sealed, delivered, signed, sealed, delivered.
They already are doing that.
They already are trying to depopulate.
That's on, that's on, that's on their docket.
Depopulate by systems because you can, because they don't say that is depopulation.
Doesn't mean it's not happening.
The people who are saying it aren't going to say it.
They're not going to say it out loud.
It's not going to be on your speakers.
It's not going to be on your radio.
It is not going to be in your music.
It's not.
It is.
It is the radio.
It is the music.
It is shut up and dribble.
It is that.
That's what it is.
So I'm going to go to the chat real quick because we got some more.
We got these people waiting on the chat, man.
So Chance said, no worries, pass it out.
MK, you go chime in.
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None of the cops had body cams.
How in 2026?
How?
Yeah, exactly.
Reg about God down in New Orleans.
They didn't have nobody.
No body cams.
No body cams, bro.
None.
This is wild.
Sir John said, enable opportunity.
Yup.
The facts.
Unfortunately speaking, Jasmine West said, Hey y'all, good talk y'all.
That's, um, the Ron said, that's all on TV, man.
Uh, Jasmine, Jazz West said, Hey, Lorraine, what up truth native?
Hey, Jazz.
I honestly don't know enough about enough what happened to have an entrepreneurial girl protest.
You don't need to protest.
You don't need to know all it, but listen, listen to everybody.
There were multiple camera angles, even including after the shooting happened.
There were multiple camera angles from people who were by, who were bystanders in Madison.
Cause you know, it's Madison.
You know, you got a lot of, you know, do good.
Um, individuals down there and listen, I promise you, you look at all the camera angles, you'll see that it was a murder.
Uh, Bay bar said, hmm, what about the shooting or Appleton in Congress?
We'll talk about, I think that's key on.
Or, I don't, yeah.
Baybar, hit me up on that.
Let us know.
Baybar cop shot somebody on Appleton in Congress.
Jasmine, Jazz West said, no, not protesting.
That'll give them an extra reason to try to harm us.
Ron Taylor said, my problem is we know that cops aren't supposed to shoot unarmed black people.
That brings a lot of energy.
that bring that same energy when a mother and daughter get killed in your neighborhood.
There are a lot of things we need to talk about.
We can definitely talk about this.
I've definitely personally have said, if we are protesting about this, if we're bringing that same energy and you're right, you're completely right.
We're bringing the same energy to someone who got killed by a cop.
The only reason why we're saying that is one, it's publicized and it's two, by somebody outside of our group.
Usually black people, we say is that if it's inside of our group, we can handle it ourselves.
That's what we're kind of saying.
That's the, that's the illusion.
That's the assumption that we're saying that we're saying to people like, man, if it's inside of our group, that's, we got it.
But if outside and y'all trying to take us out, that's our problem, but that's something that we need to talk to you about, not just talk to you about, we need to do something about it against you.
So yes.
We need the same energy.
We need the same energy if we are talking about the problems inside of our community.
And we need the same energy if we're talking about the problems outside of our community.
We need, we need both, both energies to be on high alert and high level.
Man, I, it's funny because it was this, it was this, this podcaster guy and he said, man, he called out.
He called off the game and the game the rapper the game and what he was saying was we have all these people who act tough They got the switches.
They got they wear the you know, the bulletproof vest and all of this You know, they they gang membered up to the socks and Then when stuff like this happens, they're quiet And I'm not calling out the game.
I'm just really giving an example of
We have, we have tough talkers.
We got tough talkers.
We got tough talkers and no backer uppers.
That's it.
We, we got a lot of talkers, but they came back it up and that's really foul.
That's foul.
There's no answers.
There's, there's no reason for this young man, this man to be shot.
There's no reason.
if he was taste and there is no reason for us to sit back and watch this continually happen.
We got people who are going to go out this weekend and spend two, three, four, $500 on whatever the boob would and then and then not say anything about this.
They'll scroll right up to the next thing.
We've been desensitized, but y'all don't realize that that's the that is that it literally is the trick knowledge to desensitize you from reality to demagnetize you from being attached to scenarios and situations like this.
That is that that is their cause.
That's what they're caused to do They are that's what that is the system To make you feel like This is not a part of you and it is The reason why you are on this world literally the reason why you're on this world and the reason why it spins the way it spins and the reason why you're you're the same Human like type of person like another person
but giving some level of individuality and ambiguity is because we're supposed to be marching in lockstep with each other.
There's a verse in the Quran that says, I have separated you in the tribes and sub tribes so you may recognize each other, not destroy each other.
Hey y'all, when we come back on the second hour of the grapevine, we're gonna pick some more grapes.
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We're talking about the young person, the person that was killed down in Madison, Wisconsin yesterday by at the hands of Madison police.
I'm calling it a murder because that's what it was.
I wouldn't call it that.
And I'm not the type of person to just jump out there, but from multiple camera angles, from talking to other law enforcement individuals.
If they called it a murder, if it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, then it's murder in the duck.
It's a murder.
I was just reading, I was just reading Martin Luther King's last speech.
Not too long ago and I pulled the lyrics up, so I'm going to speech up.
And whether or not you like King or not, you know, he was all about economic empowerment and cutting the water off before it hits the faucet.
That's what he was talking about.
We know that.
We know that.
What you saw during the protest was just that was just the surface level of that man.
He said, on his vision, on his call for justice, he said, the masses of people are rising up, whether, wherever they are assembled today, whether they are in Johannesburg, South Africa, Nairobi, Kenya, Accra, Ghana, New York City, Atlanta, Georgia, Jackson, Mississippi, or Memphis, Tennessee, or Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
The cry is always the same.
We want to be free.
And the reason that I'm happy to live in this period is that we've been forced to point where we are going to have to grapple with the problems that men have been trying to grapple with through history.
But the demands didn't force them to do it.
Survival demands that we grapple with them.
Men for years now have been talking about war and peace.
But now no longer can they just talk about it is no longer the choice between violence and non violence in this world It's non violence or non existence.
That's where we are today And he says now I'm just happy that God has allowed me to live in this period to see what is unfolding I can remember when Black people were just going around as Rafa said so often scratching where they didn't itch and laugh and where they were not tickled But that day is all over
And he said his, this is last words before he was killed the next day.
I've seen the promise land.
I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight that we as a people will not get, we'll get to the promise land and, and so I'm happy tonight.
I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fear any man.
My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
I'm gonna tell y'all man, like this is, this is real.
This is absolutely serious.
This is absolutely serious.
Like we are, we are in a, in a state of having our backs against the wall.
For example.
I've been pulled over more times than I can count.
And I need Milwaukee to sit with this, like more times I can count.
I remember being pulled over.
I've been pulled over bad.
And luckily, luckily I had my daughter in the back seat.
Luckily, because I knew, I knew the cop was on some mess.
I knew it.
When he walked up, he had his hand on the gun and luckily.
He didn't see my daughter until he, until I rolled down the window and she woke up and started crying.
And that's when his whole demeanor changed.
We've all had these, a lot of us has had these confrontations or conflicts or conversations.
So for me, every single time those lights come on behind me, some part of my brain just starts.
running the calculation.
Hands where, you know, they can see them.
Voice gotta be real calm.
Your voice gotta be calm.
Don't reach for anything too fast.
Don't make any sudden move.
Somewhere underneath all that.
That real question.
Am I gonna make it home tonight?
Am I gonna make it home tonight?
I don't think that's like paranoia or me just going, you know.
Ham in my mind is no.
It's I think it's trained.
That's trained inherited.
Awareness passed down like a survival manual that none of us asked to receive.
Dr. Claude Anderson said it for said it straight up for plainly for decades.
He said black people are constantly asked to perform.
Perfect compliance.
Perfect calm.
Perfect non threat as the price of simply being left alive.
While other groups are extended the presumption, but other groups are extended the presumption of innocence automatically.
No, there's no performative performance required at all.
There's no performance.
They're already considered non aggressive So there doesn't there needs to be no contact Other groups are left alone and let's do the actual math Because I don't I just don't want you to just like feel this I Want I want to prove it Track national data on police shootings consistently shows black Americans
are killed by police at roughly two to three times the rate of white Americans.
Relatively speaking.
To our share of the population.
And that's not a feeling.
That's a number and it's tracked across years, across mad databases, across.
administrations of every party you can think of liberal, conservative, red, blue, green, Democrat, Republican, you know, all of it.
You know, order, order between like past order people, all of that.
All of that.
Can't make this up it Yeah, we just got heard we just got word there's a press conference about the shooting I think we should go to that right now.
Let's talk about this press conference
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This is an incredibly difficult moment for the Madison community, and I understand the very strong emotions that people are feeling.
I am feeling them too.
As a city, as a community, as a society, we have to do better.
I want to be clear.
It does not matter who you are,
or what your past is, you should not lose your life as a result of an encounter with law enforcement.
That should not happen.
Like many in our community today, I have a lot of questions and concerns about what happened yesterday.
What decisions were made by officers that led to escalation instead of de-escalation?
What different choices could have been made to prevent harm?
What needs to change in police policy or training or anything else to prevent more deaths?
This officer involved shooting must be rigorously investigated, and it will be.
The process has already started with the Department of Criminal Investigation, but that's just the first step.
The DA will play a role, as will the Independent Monitor and the Police Civilian Oversight Board.
Our community deserves full transparency and accountability.
It's really understandable that people want answers right now.
I want them to.
But the honest truth is that good investigations take time.
We have to let the investigation play out, but believe me, anything that we can do on the city side to hasten that, we will.
And beyond the formal investigation, I think there are questions that have to be answered.
The days and weeks ahead, the Common Council and myself as representatives of the community will do our best to get and share information and to create spaces to have the conversations that need to be had.
I'm going to let Council President Madison share more details about community listening sessions, but I also want to mention that there is a vigil tonight
that's planned that I encourage people to attend if they feel so motivated.
I also want to emphasize that the safety of the community is paramount right now.
People have every right to peacefully protest and I urge people to do that safely and to take care of themselves in the process.
The city is working to help facilitate this.
I'll close with this.
Dr. Anthony of the Urban League said earlier today in their statement that public safety must truly include everyone.
I quote that statement, a just community must protect residents from violence and also protect them from unnecessary harm by the very systems entrusted with their safety.
Public safety cannot be measured only by enforcement.
It must also be measured by dignity, restraint, accountability, fairness,
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Madison should be a just community.
We can be a just community.
But we have work to do to truly be a just community.
I'll hand the podium to Council President Sabrina Madison.
You want to hear what that lady's saying?
Randall, Randall can be Tyrell.
I can go on and on and on and on.
But Cory could have been my brother because my brother is homeless.
He often rides a bike when we meet up by the by the beacon and Cory could have been a Charles.
But speaking of Cory specifically
Corey has a family who loves him.
I believe Corey has a child.
Corey is a human being.
Corey came from a mother, a mother who gave birth to him.
Most of us likely came through into the world through a traditional birth likely.
And so you imagine when you take this child home, you have all of these hopes for your kid.
You hope they grow up to be astronauts, presidents, entrepreneurs, small business owners, community leaders.
You have all of these hopes for your kids.
And as your kids mature, you know, you begin to, especially if you're raising a black child and a black male child, you have to have very difficult conversations.
My son is 31, and I've had those difficult conversations, not just with my own son, but with my three brothers.
The conversations normally look like, don't go out by yourself alone.
If the police stop you, you teach your kid all of these mechanics of what you need to do if you're stopped by the police.
Make sure the police can see your hands.
Just pull over right away.
Turn on all of your lights.
All of these mechanics of just moving about the world, you sort of have to give this young black child
all of these restrictions on how they move about the world versus this freedom that exists for white young men when you're raising white boys, for example.
I have most of us have friends who are white folks with a little white kids, and I've never heard my any of my female white friends with children giving their children the same directions that I have had to give my son.
So I just want to go back to Corey is a person
He's a human being.
He has a family.
He has parents who loved him, you know, who brought him home, who cared for him, who poured into him.
And when you're raising a young person into adulthood, as they mature into adulthood, you begin to see some of those hopes that you have for them realize they become parents.
They become career people.
They become high school graduates.
They become college folks.
They become union workers.
They become all kinds of things.
And so for me, seeing first getting the call from, you know, when you're in council leadership, you get all the phone calls about emergencies.
So, you know, I get the phone call.
And your first inclination is to get online and see what is happening.
and you know I get online to see what is happening and I see a video of who I will learn later is Corey and I don't I don't see what's happening all together there's some cars in a way but I can hear the sounds I can hear the sounds I can hear the words taser and I could just hear the shots and it's the shots that don't escape you and then I finally see videos with
a bit more detail.
And I'm telling you, I'm like, my first thought is when the officer is walking away, why isn't he walking away in cuffs?
That's my first thought because I'm just I'm looking at a quarry who can be a Charles who can be a Clyde who can be my son.
And I'm angry.
There's like no way around it.
And while we know that there will be investigations and all of that,
The thing for me is that his death is final.
And for us who have lost loved ones and have grieved loved ones, or for some of us who may be taking a longer path to the passing of a loved one, it is a very difficult thing to experience.
So my thoughts are with his family, his family that nurtured him and poured into him.
because they no longer have him because his death is final.
There's no coming back from death.
So that's where my thoughts have been.
I, of course, want an investigation that's comprehensive, that's complete, that's not bullshit.
You know, you want all of those things.
And I don't want something that's like a six month process or a nine month process.
And we often hear that
you know, it can be a while.
So I want to encourage everybody, not just, I guess I want to encourage everybody that we should all be encouraging and pushing everyone part of the process.
Hey,
We're just tuning in to the press conference in Madison, Wisconsin about the deadliest police shooting of a gentleman that was killed by the cops.
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And today we are discussing the gentleman that was killed by Madison, Wisconsin cop in Madison, Wisconsin.
And.
We were just listening to the older woman.
I don't recall her name at this moment, but she was just describing who this gentleman was.
His name is Corey.
I didn't catch the last name, but he is a father and a resident of Madison, Wisconsin.
He was accused of, I guess, accused of riding his bike down.
He was accused of.
I guess touching the car door, trying to lock, so whatever, I don't know.
And he was on his bike, they stopped him, and then ultimately they tried to subdue him and a cop took his gun out and shot him after he was tased.
This is not the most happiest moment in time in our eventful...
a very highly eventful history in America.
Whenever this does happen to one, you know, a resident and also a person of color, then we are definitely going to stop the presses and tune in and see what's going on and how this person can, this person, this person's family can seek and receive justice.
This deadly shooting is not.
The first has happened over and over again.
It has happened to Breonna Taylor.
She was asleep in her own bed.
Cops break down the door, take her out to mirrorize.
12 years old, you know, had a toy gun dead in seconds.
Philando Castile hands moving exactly as instructed, killed anyway with his girlfriend and their child in the car.
Ateana Jefferson.
Playing video games with her nephew in her home.
I mean the list goes on and on and on and We still are talking about this this, you know, we we are as Dr. Claude Anderson said we are the perfect non threat That is that is threatening We're constantly asked to perform to be compliant
and when we are compliant, then we're still kicked in the face.
I think the Chief John Patterson is talking on the news, and we want to definitely hear what he has to say.
So y'all hold on for a
second.
My name is John Patterson.
I'm the Chief of Police at the Madison Police Department.
I moved here in 1994.
I've been a member of this community since then, and I've served our community for about
a year now
as your police chief, but I've served as a member of the department since 1998.
I want to begin by speaking plainly.
Yesterday, a young man, a young member of our community, died after an encounter with one of our officers.
He was in his 30s, and I know he had a family who cared for him.
And I know he had a community who cared for him.
His family is grieving today, and our entire community, I believe, is grieving alongside them.
I don't want to rush past that fact to share with you what will come next.
I want to take time to outline the process for all of you when a death occurs in any community in Wisconsin that involves police.
This is an open and active homicide investigation right now.
In accordance with state statute, longstanding practice, the Madison Police Department has called for a thorough and independent
Criminal investigation into yesterday
remember that that he said that y'all
so at the request of us at the MPD The Wisconsin Department of Justice Division of Criminal Investigation or is has been called DCI By me and others in the past they will lead this homicide investigation As
you know
DCI is a statewide agency They experience expertise in these types of situations
these types of situations that involve police and police shootings.
So they are fully in charge of this investigation.
DCI is fully in charge of this investigation.
During these investigations, their agents quickly respond to the scene.
They process it for evidence.
They thoroughly document the scene.
They analyze video that they can find.
Canvas for video, the interview witnesses, they create their own documents.
DCI will also release the name of the officer who fired his firearm at some point in their investigation, and I sincerely hope that is soon.
Once all of the facts and information have been gathered, DCI will then present it to the district attorney's office for that review and decision.
So this process exists precisely so that no department in Wisconsin investigates itself and its own actions involving its community members.
I'm not going to stand here today and render a verdict or an opinion about what the investigation will find because I believe that will jeopardize what we all want, which is independence, an independent review.
What I can promise you is that this department
will cooperate fully with DCI and we will not hide from any aspect of this investigation.
So I've been thinking a lot today about a former chief who led this department for 21 years, David Cooper.
So long before community policing was a phrase that people seem to use casually now, he built this department upon that conviction.
He built it upon something he would plainly
say that you cannot do the job unless you have the support of your community.
Years after he left office, he wrote something that I think this department has to sit with very honestly right now.
He said that the use of physical force by police is a sacred and public trust.
He also said that more than the force of department uses the less
Trust and support it has from the people it serves more force we use the less trust we have That is the tension that we are living through right now in the city and I can physically feel it I Also want to name something directly because I know the city has not forgotten about it and will not be silent about it And I referenced it somewhat yesterday, but this shooting happened a block and a half
from where Tony Robinson was shot and killed by a Madison police officer in 2015.
It happened near the same corner where Paul Heenan was shot and killed by a police officer in Madison in 2012.
So three fatal encounters with your police department within roughly 14 years on the same half full blocks.
And I'm not going to stand here and draw a legal conclusion by any of the three, but I'm saying because I think we all have to recognize it We have to recognize the trauma that this community has gone is experiencing now again and Pretending that this is the first time I would ask this community to forget trauma and forget losses endured And I will not do that
Trust in this department is not something any of us can assume.
It is by far greatest commodity.
Must be earned continuously, and I think it can be lost in a single afternoon.
The thinnest of trust in the city right now did not start.
No, we don't shut this down.
You can stop talking because we don't want to hear anything you've been saying.
You're going to say the same thing you all say every time a black body gets shot down in this city.
This is a corrupt city.
That's right.
Have no fear.
The anti-zionist is here.
You understand me?
You won't be able to talk today because I'm gonna keep talking because I was born to talk, not talk, and walk, not walk, too.
I told these young people back here on our way here
that we
have the power, not that badge, not that weapon.
We have the power.
The city of Madison is corrupt.
From the VA to the, to the, what's the name of this?
The, the, uh, Department of Independent Modernity.
We don't want any of that talk.
You've given us this speech with you'll deliver justice.
Oh, we've seen the cameras.
We've seen it was a knife in this young man's hand.
We don't want to hear that today.
We didn't want to hear it when they put their neck on George Floyd's neck.
We don't put on George Floyd's neck and we don't want to hear it today.
What do you have to say about that?
Oh, you don't get to talk, I said.
Go ahead.
me this microphone, then.
Excuse me.
That's right.
My name is Carlos Dixon.
I represent Aptap, all power to all people, zero power to Zionists, zero power to Capitalists, zero power to colonialism.
What you are doing right now in this city is continuing the disgusting nature of colonialism, the disgusting nature of imperialism.
Look up the definition of imperialism.
It's all within the policies, which means when these police officers come down on the street and they decide that they want to take the life of another brown body, there is no oversight for that.
That's imperialism, ladies and gentlemen.
This man signed up to be an enforcer of imperialism.
Is there anybody else wanna say anything?
It doesn't matter, okay?
Walked in on the press conference.
I don't know who this gentleman is, but he is a part of an organization I think ATPT or something like that and they are he was claiming that He's talking about imperialism and Zionism and now he is anti Zionism and now he is He got the mic he took the mic
And the police has stepped out of the
way.
Your Zionist noses, because your entire communications and media department is all about Zionism and colonialism.
We will not stand.
I am a part of the class that has been oppressed and struggled my entire life.
My grandmother struggled.
My mother struggled.
That grandmother struggled.
Those people struggle.
We go back enough far enough and we can see that there was a white European that colonized us, that stole land, that committed genocide, right?
here on America and you guys want a whole stroke bourgeoisie revolution.
You guys want
to run your
mouths about how disgusting socialism is.
You haven't seen socialism, okay?
I am a revolutionary inter-communalist, okay?
I believe that there is no separation of the struggle.
You see
This is how you, this is fragmentation.
All of these struggle, Palestine, Congo, America, Sudan, Venezuela.
We're not what Trump was.
Keep going, bro.
We cut that part out.
We could
replay
it and then
like cut.
It is time for you guys to wrap it up.
It's time to go.
You don't have no questions.
Let's go.
It won't be no
They
questions.
And I would like to hear what the police chief has to finish saying.
And I want you to also be a part of that conversation because this is a conversation.
So what you're doing is, is you coddling up to imperialism, brother.
There will be no coddling to imperialism.
If you don't have a question about what kind of charges are going to be brought by no soul, you
coddling to imperialism.
I don't, I don't stand for that.
I am unnecessarily rejected, brother.
You can get on if you got some questions about what's going to happen to these pigs that killed that young man because he appeared to be homeless.
Yo, I think
hours.
Hey, we're gonna
Hopefully they get it figured out.
Yeah, they never, I don't think they're ever gonna get it figured out.
down there.
We're going to come back.
We're going to take some more callers and hit the chat line because the chat line is blowing up because of what my man said.
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Oh, wow.
This is crazy.
We were just interrupted by an interruption.
We had, we had an interrupter on the interruption.
As we were talking about the shooting in, in Madison, gentlemen gets on the cap, the police captain.
is talking at during the press conference and then from on the end of press conference, then the gentleman who is from a local organization in Madison then gets on the.
Mike takes the mic from the police captain and the police chief and then winds up talking and co-opting the entire press conference.
Here's the thing.
Here's what I noticed.
That will not happen in Milwaukee.
They will tackle that dude if he got on the mic.
Yes, the chief.
Yes.
That dude will not get on the mic if that happened in Milwaukee.
So we already know that there are things, uh, different in Madison.
There are, you know, Madison, a little different.
Madison is very different.
So, yeah, I think, um, I think we're, we're, they're a little bit more, I guess, welcoming in that press conference.
Maybe not Milwaukee's because he will not make it to the he will not make it to the podium.
Al, what's up, man?
Now, I want to please correct me.
Did he say you stand with Donald Trump?
Is that what I heard?
I don't
that.
No, no, you need.
No, that's because he my thing is, is if you stand with Donald Trump, you raising all that hell for nothing because Donald Trump is for everything he's just said.
You know, so to get up there and raise all that hill Donald Trump is for white supremacy.
He's for violence against blacks So why get up there and say oh there it is and then you say I'm for Donald Trump
But when it comes to black people or whatever religion he starts to be You cannot
Sit here and say this this I'm against Zionism Donald Trump loves that you can't sit here and say all this and this and this and like this like that, but I said with Donald Trump That doesn't even that gives black people Well,
and I'm not hit with one thing one thing I'm not defending to do at all I'm just telling you exactly almost what he said he said he's against Communism and he's basically he was liking him himself
being against communism with Donald Trump being against communism.
That's what he was saying, but keep going.
And
Donald Trump, I understand that, but Donald Trump is still against black people.
Yeah,
He pardoned people who did this stuff to black people.
So when you get there and say, I stand with Donald Trump, you're not for black people.
That's like me sitting here saying that,
God is willing to hear this, and then I say, and I said with God, that will make me a hypocrite.
That's dangerous to black people.
If you're going to be one way, be one way.
But don't sit here and say, I'm against this, and I'm for black people.
But I'm going to show them what the devil who
takes away the rights from black people.
It's like mixing water and oil.
It doesn't mix.
Have a good day, by the way.
Bye-bye.
Hey, I appreciate you, man.
Hey, it's like mixing oil and water.
You're right.
The dude makes a little bit of oil and a little bit of water in his little press conference co-op.
Hey, y'all, we're going to take a break.
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I mean there were so many topics going on today that we really couldn't get to everything and I really you know am Not I went I want to just jump around and hit topics, but I couldn't
So tomorrow, hopefully we can get to some of these topics, but I know that we're supposed to have a guest on.
His name is John Fletcher.
He is a domestic violence instructor, domestic violence defense instructor.
And he has a lot of knowledge, plus plenty of stories.
So we're going to have him on.
Hopefully he can demonstrate some of the things that need to be.
Done in relationship to defending yourself in domestic violence situations and this was a domestic violence situation as it relates to this young gentlemen Cory, I don't know his last name that was killed in an active Active homicide invested police homicide investigation Meaning that From what I can tell The police
Chief said that there is this is an active homicide investigation, meaning that the police officer that killed Corey.
Did it in out of anger, out of emotion and not out of process.
And that is huge.
So I really, we really applaud those words.
Hopefully they can stick to those words and hopefully that investigation will allow us to.
have some solace in this situation.
And he, he knows, and they know that if things can go really sour, really fast in a situation like this, because it was all on camera, not only that, there were two to three other killings of unarmed individuals in that same area within the two to three block radius of where, where this gentleman was killed.
It was 30 something years old You know at 30 years old man things go on, you know, you're back 30 years old you trying to he got a kid You know, it could be anything Any condition that this young man was in and they didn't explore those conditions.
They just killed him and that's the problem That is the problem.
So we were just at the press conference.
We're listening to the press conference and it was a spokes of
Spokesperson from the city.
I don't know.
It might have been a mayor and then it was an order order woman who was familiar with the gentleman that was killed and then the police chief came on and as the police chief came on then there was a protest or from a guy in that local organization and He was a part of maybe an anti-zionist organization that was trying to co-op and impact the
the press conference.
And yo, hey look, let me tell you, people, no matter what, no matter what you say, no matter how you see it and view it, honestly, this gentleman, whoever he was that co-opted, you know, there is some truth to what he said.
There was some truth to what he said, but what I know,
What I know and not truth to what he said about Trump, you know We should have blocked that out, but there was some truth to what he said and You know the police chief the police chief Saying that it was an active and Viable homicide investigation really gave us a jaw drop because in most in most
police shootings we don't It may be homicide in definition, but we don't necessarily hear that out of a authorities police authorities mouth that much and so this is that is a that is a page turner and we need to understand how we can
How we can tune in and understand the language of these folks before we pass our judgment.
So we need to understand what they're saying, what side they're on to.
This was very much surprising day and I know that we need to have a, we need to have a come Jesus moment tomorrow.
Milwaukee.
We already know a man went down.
When this show started, before this show started, there's a war going on outside.
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In the words of Mobb Deep, you can run, but you can't hide forever.
Our kids are down in screens.
We got a gentleman that was killed last night.
We didn't get to that, but we're definitely going to get to that tomorrow.
Dr. King said, the art bends towards justice, but it only bends when somebody's hand is on it.
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We're talking about the young person, the person that was killed down in Madison, Wisconsin yesterday by at the hands of Madison police.
I'm calling it a murder because that's what it was.
You know, I couldn't, I wouldn't call it that.
I'm not the type of person to just jump out there, but from multiple camera angles, from talking to other law enforcement individuals, if they call it a murder, if it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, then it's murder in the duck.
It's a murder.
I was just reading, I was just reading Martin Luther King's last speech.
Um, not too long ago and I pulled the lyrics up.
So I'm, I'm going to speech up and whether or not you, you like King or not, you know, he was all about economic empowerment and cutting, cutting the, uh, the water off at the, before it hits the faucet.
That's what he was talking about.
We know that we know that what you saw during the protest was just, that was just the surface level of that man.
He said.
On his vision, on his call for justice, he said the masses of people are rising up, whether wherever they are assembled today, whether they are in Johannesburg, South Africa, Nairobi, Kenya, Accra, Ghana, New York City, Atlanta, Georgia, Jackson, Mississippi, or Memphis, Tennessee, or Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
The cry is always the same.
We want to be free.
And the reason that I'm happy to live in this period is that we've been forced to point where we are going to have to grapple with the problems that men have been trying to grapple with through history.
But the demands didn't force them to do it.
Survival demands that we grapple with them.
Men for years now have been talking about war and peace.
But now no longer can they just talk about it is no longer the choice between violence and non violence in this world It's non violence or non existence.
That's where we are today And he says now I'm just happy that God has allowed me to live in this period to see what is unfolding I can remember when Black people were just going around as Rafa said so often scratching where they didn't itch and laugh and where they were not tickled But that day is all over
He said his this is last words before he was killed the next day I've seen the promised land I may not get there with you But I want you to know tonight that we as a people will not get will get to the promised land and And so I'm happy tonight.
I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fear any man My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
I'm gonna tell y'all man, like this is, this is real.
This is absolutely serious.
This is absolutely serious.
Like we are, we are in a, in a state of having our backs against the wall.
For example.
I've been pulled over more times than I can count.
And I need Milwaukee to sit with this, like more times I can count.
I remember being pulled over.
I've been pulled over bad.
And luckily, luckily I had my daughter in the back seat.
Luckily, because I knew, I knew the cop was on some mess.
I knew it.
When he walked up, he had his hand on the gun and luckily.
He didn't see my daughter until he, until I rolled down the window and she woke up and started crying.
And that's when his whole demeanor changed.
We've all had these, a lot of us has had these confrontations or conflicts or conversations.
So for me, every single time those lights come on behind me, some part of my brain just starts.
running the calculation.
Hands where they can see him.
Voice gotta be real calm.
Your voice gotta be calm.
Don't reach for anything too fast.
Don't make any sudden move.
Somewhere underneath all that.
That real question.
Am I gonna make it home tonight?
Am I gonna make it home tonight?
I don't think that's like paranoia or me just going, you know.
Ham in my mind is no.
It's I think it's trained.
That's trained inherited.
Awareness.
Passed down like a survival manual.
That none of us asked to receive.
Dr. Claude Anderson said it for said it straight up for plainly for decades.
He said black people are constantly asked to perform.
Perfect compliance.
Perfect calm.
Perfect non threat as the price of simply being left alive.
While other groups are extended the presumption, but other groups are extended the presumption of innocence automatically.
No, there's no performative performance required at all.
There's no performance.
They're already considered non aggressive So there doesn't there needs to be no contact Other groups are left alone and let's do the actual math Because I don't I just don't want you to just like feel this I Want I want to prove it Track national data on police shootings consistently shows black Americans
are killed by police at roughly two to three times the rate of white Americans.
Relatively speaking.
To our share of the population.
And that's not a feeling.
That's a number and it's tracked across years, across mad databases, across.
administrations of every party you can think of, liberal, conservative, red, blue, green, Democrat, Republican, you know, all of it.
You know, order, order between like past order people, all of that.
All of that.
Can't make this up yet We just got heard we just got word.
There's a press conference about the shooting I think we should go to that right now.
Let's talk about this press conference
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This is incredibly difficult moment for the Madison community.
And I understand the very strong emotions that people are feeling.
I am feeling them too.
As a city, as a community, as a society, we have to do better.
I want to be clear.
It does not matter who you are.
or what your past is, you should not lose your life as a result of an encounter with law enforcement.
That should not happen.
Like many in our community today, I have a lot of questions and concerns about what happened yesterday.
What decisions were made by officers that led to escalation instead of de-escalation?
What different choices could have been made to prevent harm?
What needs to change in police policy or training or anything else to prevent more deaths?
This officer involved shooting must be rigorously investigated, and it will be.
The process has already started with the Department of Criminal Investigation, but that's just the first step.
The DA will play a role, as will the Independent Monitor and the Police Civilian Oversight Board.
Our community deserves full transparency and accountability.
It's really understandable that people want answers right now.
I want them to.
But the honest truth is that good investigations take time.
We have to let the investigation play out, but believe me, anything that we can do on the city side to hasten that, we will.
And beyond the formal investigation, I think there are questions that have to be answered.
The days and weeks ahead, the Common Council and myself as representatives of the community will do our best to get and share information and to create spaces to have the conversations that need to be had.
I'm going to let Council President Madison share more details about community listening sessions, but I also want to mention that there is a vigil tonight
that's planned that I encourage people to attend if they feel so motivated.
I also want to emphasize that the safety of the community is paramount right now.
People have every right to peacefully protest and I urge people to do that safely and to take care of themselves in the process.
The city is working to help facilitate this.
I'll close with this.
Dr. Anthony of the Urban League said earlier today in their statement that public safety must truly include everyone.
I quote that statement, a just community must protect residents from violence and also protect them from unnecessary harm by the very systems entrusted with their safety.
Public safety cannot be measured only by enforcement.
It must also be measured by dignity, restraint, accountability, fairness,
and the preservation of life."
Madison should be a just community.
We can be a just community.
But we have work to do to truly be a just community.
Now, hand the podium to Council President Sabrina
Madison.
You want to hear what that lady's saying?
Randall, Randall can be Tyrell.
I can go on and on and on and on but Cory could have been my brother Because my brother is homeless.
He often rides a bike when we meet up by the By the beacon and Cory could have been a Charles but speaking of Cory specifically
Corey has a family who loves him.
I believe Corey has a child.
Corey is a human being.
Corey came from a mother, a mother who gave birth to him.
Most of us likely came through into the world through a traditional birth likely.
And so you imagine when you take this child home, you have all of these hopes for your kid.
You hope they grew up to be astronauts, presidents, entrepreneurs, small business owners, community leaders.
You have all of these hopes for your kids.
And as your kids mature, you begin to, especially if you're raising a black child and a black male child, you have to have very difficult conversations.
My son is 31, and I've had those difficult conversations, not just with my own son, but with my three brothers.
The conversations normally look like, don't go out by yourself alone.
If the police stop you, you teach your kid all of these mechanics of what you need to do if you're stopped by the police.
Make sure the police can see your hands.
Just pull over right away.
Turn on all of your lights.
All of these mechanics of just moving about the world, you sort of have to give this young black child
all of these restrictions on how they move about the world versus this freedom that exists for white young men when you're raising white boys.
For example, I have most of us have friends who are white folks with a little white kids and I've never heard my any of my female white friends with children giving their children the same directions that I have had to give my son.
So I just want to go back to Corey is a person
He's a human being.
He has a family.
He has parents who loved him, you know, who brought him home, who cared for him, who poured into him.
And when you're raising a young person into adulthood, as they mature into adulthood, you begin to see some of those hopes that you have for them realize they become parents.
They become career people.
They become high school graduates.
They become college folks.
They become union workers.
They become all kinds of things.
And so for me, seeing first getting the call from, you know, when you're in council leadership, you get all the phone calls about emergencies.
So, you know, I get the phone call.
And your first inclination is to get online and see what is happening.
and you know I get online to see what is happening and I see a video of who I will learn later is Corey and I don't I don't see what's happening all together there's some cars in a way but I can hear the sounds I can hear the sounds I can hear the words taser and I could just hear the shots and it's the shots that don't escape you and then I finally see videos with
a bit more detail.
And I'm telling you, I'm like, my first thought is when the officer is walking away, why isn't he walking away in cuffs?
That's my first thought.
Because I'm just, I'm looking at a quarry who can be a Charles, who can be a Clyde, who can be my son.
And I'm angry.
There's like no way around it.
And while we know that there will be investigations and all of that,
The thing for me is that his death is final.
And for us who have lost loved ones and have grieved loved ones, or for some of us who may be taking a longer path to the passing of a loved one, it is a very difficult thing to experience.
So my thoughts are with his family, his family that nurtured him and poured into him.
because they no longer have him because his death is final.
There's no coming back from death.
So that's where my thoughts have been.
I, of course, want an investigation that's comprehensive, that's complete, that's not bullshit.
You know, you want all of those things.
And I don't want something that's like a six month process or a nine month process.
And we often hear that
you know, it can be a while.
So I want to encourage everybody, not just, I guess I want to encourage everybody that we should all be encouraging and pushing everyone part of the process.
Hey,
We're just tuning in to the press conference in Madison, Wisconsin about the deadly police shooting of a gentleman that was killed by the cops.
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And today we are discussing the gentleman that was killed by Madison, Wisconsin cop in Madison, Wisconsin.
And.
We were just listening to the older woman.
I don't recall her name at this moment, but she was just describing who this gentleman was.
His name is Corey.
I didn't catch the last name, but he is a father and a resident of Madison, Wisconsin.
He was accused of, I guess, accused of riding his bike down.
He was accused of.
I guess touching the car door trying to try and the locks or whatever.
I don't know.
And he was on his bike.
They stopped him and then ultimately they they tried to subdue him and a cop took his gun out and shot him after he was tased.
This is this is not the most happiest moment in in time in our eventful.
very highly eventful history in America.
Whenever this does happen to one, you know, a resident and also, uh, a person of color, uh, then we are definitely going to stop the presses and tune in and see what's going on and how this person can, this person, this person's family can seek and receive justice.
This, uh, deadly shooting is not.
The first has happened over and over again.
It has happened to Breonna Taylor.
She was asleep in her own bed.
Cops break down the door, take her out to mirror rice, 12 years old, you know, had a toy gun dead in seconds, Philando Castile, hands moving exactly as instructed, killed anyway with his girlfriend and their child in the car.
Ateana Jefferson.
Playing video games with her nephew in her home.
I mean the list goes on and on and on and We still are talking about this this, you know, we we are as Dr. Claude Anderson said we are the perfect non threat That is that is threatening We're constantly asked to perform to be compliant
and when we are compliant, then we're still kicked in the face.
I think the Chief John Patterson is talking on the news, and we want
to
second.
My name is John Patterson.
I'm the Chief of Police of the Madison Police Department.
I moved here in 1994.
I've been a member of this community since then, and I've served our community for about
a year now
as your police chief, but I've served as a member of the department since 1998.
I want to begin by speaking plainly.
Yesterday, a young man, a young member of our community, died after an encounter with one of our officers.
He was in his 30s, and I know he had a family who cared for him.
And I know he had a community who cared for him.
His family is grieving today, and our entire community, I believe, is grieving alongside them.
I don't want to rush past that fact to share with you what will come next.
I want to take time to outline the process for all of you when a death occurs in any community in Wisconsin that involves police.
This is an open and active homicide investigation right now.
In accordance with state statute, longstanding practice, the Madison Police Department has called for a thorough and independent
Criminal investigation into yesterday
remember that that he said that y'all
so at the request of us at the MPD the Wisconsin Department of Justice Division of Criminal Investigation or is has been called DCI By me and others in the past they will leave this homicide investigation As you know DCI is a statewide agency They experience expertise in these types of situations
these types of situations that involve police and police shootings.
So they are fully in charge of this investigation.
DCI is fully in charge of this investigation.
During these investigations, their agents quickly respond to the scene.
They process it for evidence.
They thoroughly document the scene.
They analyze video that they can find.
Canvas for video, the interview witnesses, they create their own documents.
DCI will also release the name of the officer who fired his firearm at some point in their investigation, and I sincerely hope that is soon.
Once all of the facts and information have been gathered, DCI will then present it to the district attorney's office for that review and decision.
So this process exists precisely so that no department in Wisconsin investigates itself and its own actions involving its community members.
I'm not going to stand here today and render a verdict or an opinion about what the investigation will find, because I believe that will jeopardize what we all want, which is independence, an independent review.
What I can promise you is that this department
will cooperate fully with DCI and we will not hide from any aspect of this investigation.
So I've been thinking a lot today about a former chief who led this department for 21 years, David Cooper.
So long before community policing was a phrase that people seem to use casually now, he built this department upon that conviction.
He built it upon something he would plainly
say that you cannot do the job unless you have the support of your community.
Years after he left office, he wrote something that I think this department has to sit with very honestly right now.
He said that the use of physical force by police is a sacred and public trust.
He also said that more than the force of department uses the less
trust and support it has from the people it serves.
The more force we use, the less trust we have.
That is the tension that we are living through right now in the city and I can physically feel it.
I also want to name something directly because I know the city has not forgotten about it and will not be silent about it.
And I referenced it somewhat yesterday, but this shooting happened a block and a half.
from where Tony Robinson was shot and killed by a Madison police officer in 2015.
It happened near the same corner where Paul Heenan was shot and killed by a police officer in Madison in 2012.
So three fatal encounters with your police department within roughly 14 years on the same half full blocks.
And I'm not going to stand here and draw a legal conclusion by any of the three, but I'm saying it because I think we all have to recognize it.
We have to recognize the trauma that this community has gone through, is experiencing now again.
And pretending that this is the first time I would ask this community to forget trauma and forget losses and do it.
And I will not do that.
Trust in this department is not something any of us can assume.
It is by far our greatest commodity.
Must be earned continuously and I think it can be lost in a single afternoon.
The thinnest of trust in the city right now did not start.
Nope, we can shut this down.
You can stop talking because we don't want to hear anything you've been saying.
You're going to say the same thing you all say every time a black body gets shot down in this city.
This is a corrupt city.
That's right.
Have no fear.
The anti-zionist is here.
You understand me?
You won't be able to talk today because I'm going to keep talking.
Because I was born to talk, not talk, and walk, not walk, too.
I told these young people back here on our way here
that we
have the power, not that badge, not that weapon.
We have the power.
The city of Madison is corrupt.
From the VA to the, to the, what's the name of this?
The, the, uh, Department of Independent Monetary.
We don't want any of that talk.
You've given us this speech with you'll deliver justice.
Oh, we've seen the cameras.
We've seen it was a knife in this young man's hand.
We don't want to hear that today.
We didn't want to hear it when they put their neck on George Floyd's neck.
We don't put on George Floyd's neck, and we don't want to hear it today.
What do you have to say about that?
Oh, you don't get to talk, I said.
Go ahead.
me this microphone, then.
Excuse me.
That's right.
My name is Carlos Dixon.
I represent Aptap, all power to all people, zero power to Zionists, zero power to Capitalists, zero power to colonialism.
What you are doing right now in this city is continuing the disgusting nature of colonialism, the disgusting nature of imperialism.
Look up the definition of imperialism.
It's all within the policies, which means when these police officers come down on the street and they decide that they want to take the life of another brown body, there is no oversight for that.
That's imperialism, ladies and gentlemen.
This man signed up to be an enforcer of imperialism.
Is there anybody else want to say anything?
It doesn't matter.
OK.
Walked in on the press conference.
I don't know who this gentleman is, but he is a part of an organization I think ATPT or something like that and they are he was claiming that He's talking about imperialism and Zionism and now he is anti Zionism and now he is He got the mic.
He took the mic
And the
police has stepped out of the way.
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You guys want
to run your
mouths about how disgusting socialism is.
You haven't seen socialism, OK?
I am a revolutionary intercommunalist, OK?
I believe that there is no separation of the struggle.
You see
This is how you, this is fragmentation.
All of these struggle, Palestine, Congo, America, Sudan, Venezuela.
Don't do these good things this together.
You get the power of anti-communism.
So I'm on Donald Trump's side, okay?
I don't like communism because you guys have been great in communism.
You guys have took socialism and the fight for liberation and turned it into something you can profit for.
Just like the non-profit
bro.
We could
It is time for you guys to wrap it up.
It's time to go.
You don't have no questions.
Let's go.
It won't be no
My brother, I think it's important.
They asked me for questions.
And I would like to hear what the police chief has to finish saying.
And I want you to also be a part of that conversation because this is a conversation.
He called a conversation.
So what you're doing is, is you coddling up to imperialism, brother.
There will be no coddling to imperialism.
If you don't have a question about what kind of charges are going to be
brought by the
no soul,
coddling to imperialism.
I don't, I don't stand for that.
I am fundamentally rejected, brother.
You can get on if you got some questions about what's going to happen to these pigs that killed that young man because he appeared to be homeless.
Yo, I think
hours.
Hey, we're gonna
they get it figured
Yeah, they never, I don't think they're ever gonna get it figured out.
Down there.
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Oh, wow.
This is crazy.
We were just interrupted by an interruption.
We had we had an interrupter on the interruption.
As we were talking about the shooting in in Madison, gentlemen gets on the cap, the police captain.
is talking at during the press conference and then from on the end of press conference, then the gentleman who is from a local organization in Madison then gets on the.
Mike takes the mic from the police captain and the police chief and then winds up talking and co-opting the entire press conference.
Here's the thing.
Here's what I noticed.
That will not happen in Milwaukee.
They will tackle that dude if he got on the mic Yes, the chief.
Yes, that dude will not get on the mic if that happened in Milwaukee.
So we already know that there are things Different in in Madison there, you know Madison a little different Madison is very different.
So Yeah, I think I Think we're we're They're a little bit more I guess welcoming in that press conference
Maybe not Milwaukee's because he will not make it to the he will not make it to the podium.
Al, what's up, man?
Now I want to please correct me.
Did he say you stand with Donald Trump?
Is that what I heard?
that.
No, no, you need.
No, that's because he my thing is, is if you stand with Donald Trump, you raising all that hell for nothing because Donald Trump is for everything he's just said.
You know, so to get up there and raise all that hill Donald Trump is for white supremacy.
He's for violence against blacks So why get up there and say oh there it is and then you say I'm for Donald Trump
But when it comes to black people or whatever religion he starts to be You cannot
Sit here and say this this I'm against Zionism Donald Trump loves that you can't sit here and say all this and this and this and like this like that, but I said with Donald Trump That doesn't even that gives black people Well,
and I'm not hit with one thing one thing I'm not defending to do at all I'm just telling you exactly almost what he said he said he's against Communism and he's basically he was liking him himself
being against communism with Donald Trump being against communism.
That's what he was saying, but keep going.
And
Donald Trump, I understand that, but Donald Trump is still against...
black people.
He pardoned people who did this stuff to black people.
So when you get there and say, I stand with Donald Trump, you're not for black people.
That's like me sitting here saying that God is willing to hear this and then I say, and I stand with God.
That will make me a hypocrite.
That's dangerous to black people.
If you're going to be one way, be one way.
But don't sit here and say, I'm against this and I'm for black people.
But I'm going to show them what the devil who takes away the rights from black people.
It's like mixing water and oil.
It doesn't mix.
Have a good day, by the way.
Bye.
Hey, I appreciate you, man.
Hey, it's like mixing oil and water.
Are you right?
The dude makes a little bit of oil and a little bit of water in his little press conference co-op.
Hey, y'all, we're gonna take a break and when we come back, we're gonna have the last section of my two hours here on the war-winning Truth Radio 1017.
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When we come back, we'll be back in three.
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Hey, y'all, we are discussing lots of stuff.
I mean, there were so many topics going on today that we really couldn't get to everything and I really, you know, am not.
I went, I want to just jump around and hit topics, but I couldn't.
So tomorrow, hopefully we can get to some of these topics, but I know that we're supposed to have a guest on.
His name is John Fletcher.
He is a domestic violence instructor, uh, domestic violence defense instructor, and he has a lot of knowledge plus plenty of stories.
So we're going to have him on.
Hopefully he can demonstrate some of the things that need to be, uh,
Done in relationship to defending yourself in domestic violence situations and this was a domestic violence situation as it relates to this young gentlemen Cory, I don't know his last name that was killed in an active Active homicide invested police homicide investigation Meaning that From what I can tell The police
Chief said that there is this is an active homicide investigation, meaning that the police officer that killed Corey.
Did it in out of anger, out of emotion and not out of process.
And that is huge.
So I really, we really applaud those words.
Hopefully they can stick to those words and hopefully that investigation will allow us to.
have some solace in this situation.
And he, he knows, and they know that if things can go really sour, really fast in a situation like this, because it was all on camera, not only that, there were two to three other killings of unarmed individuals in that same area within the two to three block radius of where, where this gentleman was killed.
It was 30 something years old You know at 30 years old man things go on, you know, you're bad 30 years old you trying to he got a kid You know, it could be anything Any condition that this young man was in and they didn't explore those conditions.
They just killed him and that's the problem That is the problem.
So we were just at the press conference.
We're listening to the press conference and it was a spokes of
Spokesperson from the city.
I don't know.
It might have been a mayor and then It was a alter alter woman who was familiar with the gentleman that was killed and then the police chief came on and as the police chief came on then there was a protest or from a guy on that local organization and he was a part of maybe an anti-zionist organization that was trying to co-op and impact the
the press conference.
And yo, hey, look, let me tell you, people, no matter what, no matter what you say, no matter how you see it and view it, honestly, this gentleman, whoever he was that co-opted, you know, there is some truth to what he said.
There was some truth to what he said, but what I know,
What I know and not truth to what he said about Trump, you know, we should have blocked that out, but there was some truth to what he said and You know the police chief the police chief Saying that it was an active and Viable homicide investigation really gave us a jaw drop because in most in most
police shootings we don't It may be homicide in definition, but we don't necessarily hear that out of a authorities police authorities mouth that much and so this is that is a that is a page turner and we need to understand how we can How we can tune in and understand the language of these folks before we
pass our judgment.
So we need to understand what they're saying, what side they're on to.
This was very, very much surprising day.
And I know that we need to have a, we need to have a come Jesus moment tomorrow.
So Milwaukee, we already know a man went down.
When this show started, before this show started, there's a war going on outside, no man is safe from him.
You can run, but you can't hide forever.
And the words of mob deep, you can run, but you can't hide forever.
Our kids are down in screens.
We got a gentleman that was killed last night.
We didn't get to that, but we're definitely going to get to that tomorrow.
Dr. King said, the art bends towards justice.
But it only bends when somebody's hand is on it.
That's the show.
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