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I'm a little I'm a read I'm a read a few a lyric or two because I was I was just I was just
Just on it.
I'm like, all right, I know he gonna know this one.
But what do you think about this, especially in terms of the hustle, because you went from Oakland to New York.
And one thing about going from Oakland to New York, completely different worlds.
You know, Oakland has a laid back hustle.
Um, you know, you got the sunshine palm trees every night, you know, you got the lake, you got the downtown, you next to San, San Fran, you know, the Castro area, maybe.
I don't know about Castro.
Shout out to Castro, man.
Come up.
Y'all gotta come up.
Uh, but Oakland to New York and you, I don't know what part of New York you lived in.
What part?
I was in right in the middle.
I was in Manhattan, man, on 14th Street, like in the middle of chaos over by Union Station.
Yeah,
where everything meets.
Everybody knows the area.
Everything meets there.
Yeah, so Jay says in his lyric, I bought every V12 engine.
I wish I could take it back to the beginning.
I could have bought a place in Dumbo before it was Dumbo.
That's down under the Manhattan Bridge.
Is that am I right?
Yeah, Dumbo and then for like two million that same building today is worth 25 million guess how I'm feeling
Dumbo
and Dumbo When you hear that when you hear that lyric it takes you back to You know for me it takes takes me back to The hustle that I I had to kind of tap into when I was developing
one of my other businesses called the Juice Kitchen here in Milwaukee.
And I used to also, like you, listen to Jay when I was juicing and trying to hustle the brand.
But when you hear that lyric and you say, man, this is how I can take my label, my company, C-Suite Music, and turn it into something.
Is there a parallel between that particular piece of that phrase and what you're doing now?
Yeah, no.
And so this, this goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
Someone asked about like the greatest piece of advice she gave me, right?
And again, it wasn't directly, but that's a great example, right?
So like, you know, the conversation around like, okay, what is, what does investing mean?
Right?
What does that mean to like, what is luxury?
You know, and as young men and folks from the hood, we want to go by
chains and cars and all that flashy stuff.
It's like, well, you took that same money invested into, you know, some apartment buildings, like, like, $2 million is nothing for, especially back then, they would never spend that on chains and crystal and all that stuff.
Imagine if they were to put that money, we could own
We can own Manhattan.
We can own Oakland and parts of LA and parts of Milwaukee.
We can own this stuff.
We just made these investments in our community and we thought, you know, different and strategic and start thinking short term, thinking the long term.
So that's one of the things that kind of got my gears.
You know, again, something you always inherently know, but to hear someone at his level be like, damn, you know, I kind of, I've missed the mark on that, right?
It
just
means it brings you
back to the conversation, like, okay, how do we make sure we don't miss the mark next time?
Because economic empowerment is not just about looking rich.
It's about actually being rich.
It's about actually building wealth and building communities, building up strong zip codes so that we, you know, we are
You know, we're protected against certain things and and as far as like budgets and and how the city spends their money
That's all
important.
And if
we don't own these blocks on these neighborhoods and owns the means of you know, just
there's just words there's words words on the
album But but but think about the fact how much culture Brooklyn, right?
For example, like where Jays has created, right?
And then and but think about the fact that people in Brooklyn don't
How many people in Brooklyn actually own where they live, right?
Or, you know what I'm saying?
So like, we contribute so much to this culture in America, but how much of it do we actually really own?
So I think that's what makes me think when I hear that lyric.
That's very interesting because, you know, I remember him saying that he was from 560 State Street.
That's downtown next to the, next to, downtown Brooklyn, everybody, next to the...
The Apple store is basically across the street.
And I think the mall is in the area too.
Totally gentrified.
Totally gentrified.
You know, you got Fufu Shishi with dogs being walked down the street.
No pits.
No pits in Brooklyn right now.
No pits.
No pits.
No, not
that
part of Brooklyn.
Right?
No.
Maybe Jackson.
Brooklyn still.
Brooklyn still get busy.
Don't get it done certain parts of like wait a minute this this this Brooklyn this feel like Yes,
yes, so when you I know when you when you talk about investing and you talk about Your your company C-suite music.
What is what is C-suite music about?
So C-suite music so
C-suite music is the parent company.
We just launched a new company called Bit90, which stands for Black in the 90s, born in the 90s, however you want to phrase it.
But C-suite music is kind of the ethos, right?
I think a lot of people hear that name and they used to think, oh, you're a record label.
And I'm like, no, it's funny, now we're doing music again.
But at the time, it was like, no, but music is such an integral part of our culture.
And so the idea was C-suite, executive level, high level, whatever, and music.
We're bringing our culture to the highest level.
We want to show it in the highest light.
We
want to
take this thing as far as we can take it.
Forget about just making some other brand pop.
Forget about we've dominated spirits.
We've dominated fashion.
We've dominated music.
Obviously, we've dominated all these things.
But have we dominated in the political space?
Have we dominated in the venture capital space?
Have we dominated in the health space, right?
The most important part.
So it's like the idea, and I, you know, maybe that gets lost, but that was the ethos behind of what we, when I named it C-Suite Music, it's like, how do we take this thing, our oil, right?
Music is kind of like our oil
or
our...
you know, our 7-Eleven, if you will, whatever the
communities have.
It's how we, you know, sports and entertainment is a big part of how we allow us to make it out.
So how do we take that natural resource and scale it, you know, at the highest level?
So that was the idea behind the name C-suite.
And so we're a production, you know, a production company and media company and all these things.
But, you know, more importantly, it's a brand that, that kind of hopefully encompasses those things I just talked about.
Well, that's, that's amazing.
I think you, you are, you embody what the Sean Carter Foundation and Gloria Carter Foundation has been hoping to stress to this, to society is that, you know, you, you, you take this opportunity.
and you multiply it, you know, tenfold, you multiply it to the, to the, to the degree that you're not only are you developed, not only have you developed a documentary, that's easy, right?
But then you're talking about developing a company, actual company that lends itself to building other people in C-suite music.
Gloria Carter, I know went back to school and got her doctorate degree.
And now I know she's retired and everything, but now she's, she's continuing to work.
From what I've seen on Instagram that she, she did a couple of some food drives and the likes.
When we're talking about, we're talking about like this executive place of hustle, right?
When we're talking about this executive place of hustle, how is there, what's the bridge between the hustle on the street?
You know, you're hustling the documentary, whatever.
And the kind of the...
higher tier hustle where you have to engage yourself with multiple individuals who have large, large budgets.
I'll be honest with you.
I don't, my experience is teaching me, teaching me because I'm still learning.
Yeah.
Um, that there is, that's not, it's not really a difference.
It's really about what you bring to the table in my opinion, right?
Because I think, I think in a, in a era before, I think there was like a clear difference difference, right?
Like, okay.
Streets and then there's the hustle here and there's a hustle on it, but because of the internet because the social media is broken down so many barriers and walls that it's like Why do I need to listen to you?
Oh, because you got what degree?
Oh, because you got okay.
You got what budget?
Okay, but you might have the budget I got the people,
right?
You know what I mean?
I got the culture.
So we are you need me
just as much as I need you, not more than I need you.
So I think it's a different, I operate from a different space now.
I have a master's degree, bachelor's degree.
I got a certificate from Harvard.
I got a certificate in applied policy from Sacramento State and government.
I'm a very educated brother, but
at
the same time, my most important education comes from the street.
And not that I was like in the street like on some hood stuff, but
I mean
just like like learning like just the street smarts and understanding like how people operate at the most basic primary level.
And if that is more valuable than knowing like some corporate jargon, you know what I mean?
Like knowing how to write an email perfectly.
Like I've learned that if you know how to connect with people, people are the most important commodity.
I don't care how much we try to replace people with AI or we try to automate and do all this other stuff like
understand how people function and understand they have to be able to communicate with people is the most important thing and that's what a lot of these corporations and people who work in that space they just they don't know that bro like they really they're really bad at communication when it comes to like the everyday work in person that that that single dad that you know what I mean that's that that single mom that's going through it they don't know how to talk to them and that's what we we do we we know we know our people but not only our people we know working people we know how to talk to
whether they black, white, Hispanic, whatever it can.
We know how to talk to all people because we just, we come from a real place.
So I realized that that's more valuable than even having the skill.
That's more valuable than even having the knowledge or knowing all the right words and verbs to use.
To me, that's where, that's where, that's what's missing right now in that corporate space that we, if we call it, that's the flavor that we bring and the value that we bring is that we can do both.
Yeah.
It's interesting because we, we
They cut the funding, a lot of funding to DI or renamed a lot of departments and stuff like that.
But in reality, we're still in these spaces and we still can make our own way.
We still can build our own table.
When we come back, when we come back, we're gonna come back with Michael Jordan Payton.
We're gonna discuss purpose, discipline, and also the rapid fire question.
We're not gonna hold him too long, but I'm glad he extended his period of time out there in Oakland.
So let's come back.
Let's break.
Let's come back.
And we're going to get to these questions.
Yeah.
Yo, we are back in the grapevine.
We're going to pick some more grapes with brother Michael Jordan Peyton.
Michael, what is what does discipline look like on the days when you don't feel inspired?
Man.
Discipline looks like, I'm a person, I have to write everything down, man.
Especially on days where I just don't feel like doing Jack-ish.
I'll be like, I have to write it all.
I mean, I'm talking about everything from, all right, put one foot out the bed, put the other foot on the floor.
I'll get methodically scientific with it.
Because there's days where you just don't feel like doing, you're just depleted, you're emotionally drained, you're burnt out.
And I have to, on those days, and there's some days like right now I'm in a zone where I'm like, I'm jumping to get up.
Like I said, I'm in the middle of this, this project that I'm really, really excited about.
And it's just like butter every day.
It's like, I can't, it's not enough time in a day.
Then
there's days when you're just like, you're just going through it.
And it's another, it's another meeting.
It's another conference call.
It's not, it's just like, let me just, you know, don't, you know, at this time eat.
something drink water I'm literally breaking every single step of my day down to give me through and you realize that if you get through to about 10 of those steps
Yeah,
you start feeling good about yourself.
You say, okay, I'm actually doing as I'm accomplishing even I don't want to do it I'm accomplishing something and that's discipline even when you don't feel like doing it You still force yourself to do it anyway and because you have to think about not just the short-term payoff of like if I don't do it I feel good by just sitting on the couch doing nothing How will I feel tomorrow?
I'm gonna feel great tomorrow knowing that I didn't
didn't want to do this, but I did it.
I got it done today and I can, I can chill tomorrow.
You know, it just little things like that, that you, you got to trick your mind, you got to hack your mind into, to be in discipline.
What's, what's a dream in terms of hacking into mine?
You know, you, you, you've dreamt a lot and you've done a lot.
Um, my, I guess I have two part question is you, you've met, you know, the people that you wanted to meet, you met a person that you wanted to meet.
Are you.
Are you and Jay still close as you, you know, I guess as the interview kind of portrays or, you know, you guys are passing professionals?
Oh, man, you know, I'll say I have a really, I have a great relationship with with his team, like his, his, his mom, his team, Jay is doing his thing.
Right.
So,
yeah, you gotta be stay
busy.
But I, but I, but I seen him, I seen him at, um, at Earth's funeral.
Yeah.
He was there.
We were sitting like right behind each other.
You know, um,
and I've seen, you know, we, I see, you know, it's always love.
But again, it's like, I, that man is so busy that I never want to be that one.
That's like the one that's always like on him or asking for stuff.
But I
built, I built a great relationship with his team, with his, his, his mom, shout out to Dr. Gloria Carter.
And, and, you know, I mean, I'm talking about, I think on a daily basis, we have some kind of interaction.
Like literally just got off a text message with somebody from his office just now.
So like, you know,
So I know that whenever there's something I need or whatever, I know I can always reach out.
And likewise, it's a great relationship I'll say overall for sure.
I know you dream a lot.
And I'm pretty sure your dreams are pretty vivid.
And this is just I get from your spirit.
What's one dream that you haven't shared publicly yet that you can share?
And I don't believe in sharing all the dreams.
You know, maybe it's a touch of something that will give somebody some inspiration.
I know we have a lot of young people listening.
And, you know, I want to know.
No, that's a great question, man.
I have a lot of dreams, man.
I have a lot of big dreams.
Some of them I won't discuss yet.
I might come back later on and discuss some of them.
But
I'll definitely say after the next project, after the next project, it seems good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, for sure.
No, man, I'm
I'm coming on next week, man.
Talk about this project.
So y'all better make it a slot for me, man.
We know.
Hey,
you know what?
Let's do that.
Let's
do it.
I'm calling out on the air because I need it.
I'm
calling out on the air because I just need 10 minutes.
That's all, y'all.
But no, no.
But no, I have some really big dreams.
And you said, what was one of the dreams that I had?
They haven't seen it publicly yet.
Yeah.
Man.
You know, I really, I want to, one of my dreams is to build something that, and I think people don't understand, I do a lot of work and a lot of different verticals, right?
And it's like, well, how does all this make sense, right?
And for me, it's about building something that is, and I'll say, going back to the model that Jay has laid, right?
Like the blueprint, when I look at rock nation and what they've built,
It's not just an entertainment company.
It's a company that, I mean, it's a brand.
But their ethos is, I mean, they are impacting everything from obviously like the entertainment space and we know about what they do with the NFL and all that.
But I mean, no one talks enough about what they do in terms of when it's time to take legal action, right?
If something goes on in Milwaukee or in, you know, Kentucky or somewhere that people might not be thinking about.
they're sending, they're sending lawyers, they're sending legal help to come out and help like our communities fight these things.
And I'm like, that, and people don't talk about that, but that's, that's kind of what I want to build in terms of what, what I'm trying to do with C-suite music and my, and my brand and my company is that not just obviously the legal space, but how can we impact housing?
How can we impact the health space?
How can we impact civic engagement and getting people out to, to like,
That is kind of my bigger my big dream.
It's like using this platform to get to make You know, we'll just think it's an election year, right to make voting Just as hot as going to the club or or going to buy a Louis Vuitton bag It's like how do we make how do we make people understand like buying a home or owning a business or whatever is is That's the new
Balenciaga.
Yes.
Yes.
That's the number set.
Like that's that's kind of my bigger goal with this.
It's never just to like, yo, let me get some money.
I'm gonna get mine.
I'm gonna move to suburbs when I get it.
But like, but I will bring my people with me.
We're gonna all live this life.
We're
all gonna live this, yo, this thing, you
know.
That's the new hustle, the new hustle, the real hustle, the new hustle.
isn't necessarily a new hustle.
It's the old hustle by everybody else, but we're just rediscovering it.
It is repackaged in many different formats.
Am I right?
Facts.
Facts.
What policy would you change right now?
I mean, if you could go across the board, you're...
Wait, let me pull out my phone.
Hold on.
Let me scroll.
I'll say this, man.
You know, I'm not a politician.
So I don't have like, I don't know.
This
is my
workshop.
No,
or anything like that.
Yeah.
Um, yet.
So, you know, any consultants out there want to join my, I'm just kidding.
No, but I would say taking donations.
I would say taking donations.
Yeah.
Um, I would, and again, it's not sexy, but I think it is sexy.
If you felt, I would cut taxes, right?
For anybody that is not making a certain amount of money.
I don't know what the median income is there in Milwaukee.
I know here in California, like they're like, if you don't make like 150,000, you're considered poor.
I'm like, wait, whoa, what?
But it's, but the thing is that we get hit, working people get hit so much, man, with these, with just the tax, especially again, I don't know what it's like in Milwaukee, but in California and other places, like we're taxed so much from the sodas that you buy, drinks that you buy to your car, to the gas, everything.
It's like people need a break.
I think.
And I'm not trying to get all political and stuff, but it's just true.
If we can bail out banks and companies and all this other stuff, bail out the working people who actually make this stuff go.
So I mean, if I could just change one thing right now for a year, I would like, nobody pays.
If you are not making whatever the threshold that makes you just right at the middle class, working in middle class people would pay no taxes for a year.
Let's tax people who make a little more money.
Um and and let's let's give people a break like
y'all
remember how great it felt during the pandemic where things kind of had stopped for a minute like when we didn't it wasn't paying no bit like We people the people need that because people I know they say the economy is coming back and this and that but like People ain't really feeling it.
You know people ain't really feeling that and I think that I think that our people uh working people across the board need need a break and I think um we tired of hearing about trillionaires and people you know all this other stuff great like and
Again shout to people who I know who are billionaires and all that
yeah
who are actually doing the work and getting back but like Let's create more opportunity for more people to get there because guess what if you give that single dad A tax break guess we gonna he gonna start a business he gonna go pay for childcare He gonna go get his car or go invest in a truck and go start a company
There's an article that said there was an article about just came out about
the dad brain and how the dad brain, once a gentleman has a child, his, the dad brain turns on.
And we all can pretty much guess what the dad brain is, like hustle, get work done, you know, come, go to work, come back home, eat, sleep, do it again, right?
And you're right.
You know, once you give that, that dad or that mom, you know that
tax break and they have that little extra root mental real estate and the financial real estate to operate.
They're not going to spend it, you know, more than likely, they're not going to spend it on some frivolous things because they're looking at children, their children's mouths.
Exactly.
100%.
And then they're going to, and guess what they're going to do?
They're going to invest that money back into the local economy.
The way it goes, everybody wins.
Like, so the local stores are going to win because they're going to be spending a little more money.
They might.
Say that money up and employ a couple of eight folks and now somebody else got like it's a win-win Why wouldn't you want to bail out the very people who built this damn country?
Excuse my language, but that's just that's just that's one thing about if I had the magic pen I would you know in Congress and all the other so all the other branches to government But that's that's one thing I would I would definitely say give it give the working people a break man
after real quick after you After you finish the the murdering documentary
Did you, the official, after you finished the official murder documentary, the breath you took, was it a breath of relief?
Was it a breath of, was it kind of like bittersweet because a lot of our black owned, black and brown owned companies have succumbed to the,
the ending like, you know, murdering in terms of, you know, how it went down.
Like, what was, what was the, what was your, on your foremind?
Yeah, that's a great question, man.
Honestly, if we keeping it real, brother, I don't know if I've taken that breath yet.
You know, it's just something I've been working through.
Like I said, as I'm kind of on my own journey, mental health wise and all that, it's like,
it's okay to pause, right?
Because I think after doing that, it was, I know I told the story like it just kind of happened, right?
It was a lot that happened along with that.
Me and Irv first started talking in 2019, and it was a whole lot of something happened in between there, a pandemic, you know, all kinds of stuff happened in between there, I'll say that.
And then the doc actually came out like 2022, 23 or something like that.
And so,
So there's a lot that went into making it.
And
then when it came out, there was a sense of like, wow, great.
But I've never really had that.
You know, we talked earlier about like kind of the working in this business and the different folks we got to deal with.
And it's always like, it's a, it's a, the quote, Janet Jackson, I don't know if I, oh no, to remember, what have you done for me lately?
That's,
that's, that's the, that's the kind of business it is.
It's like, yeah, I did this great thing with Jay-Z, Nas, Irv Gotti and John Rule and all this stuff.
And it's like, yeah, that's cool.
But like,
It's like, it's never enough, right?
And that's
what
I've been trying to deal with.
And I've just recently kind of sat down and watched it, the whole thing back and like, man, you know what?
And I watched it from the perspective of, oh, that's dope.
I did that.
It's like, no, put yourself back in the shoes of that 12 year old kid, that 13 year old kid who was calling Jay-Z's office, Rockefeller, like on the 411 number.
trying to talk to Jay, trying to get your songs heard, who was like sending in demos to murder ain't when I was 14 years old, trying to get my songs heard.
To now I got this this piece of cultural history, like 100 years from now, when people want to learn about whatever happened, you know, in this era, they can always go back, you know, just just like if you are historian, you study in a book, right?
You go
back and read the book, what happened?
Oh, okay, Christopher Columbus, whoever did this, you can you want to study the era of hip hop.
that, you know, the 90s, the 2000s, and these very important folks who, one of those documents may be this documentary that I made, and I'm proud of that.
Like, again, just putting myself in that 12-year-old, 13-year-old kid shoes, like, man, you did that, and be proud of that, and don't care about what the next move is or whatever, which we've had some great next.
I've got some great projects coming, but I think there's always just let's go go go go go.
We got to keep proving and proving in this business.
But yeah, so the breath that I took, I think I'm just now starting to take that breath and appreciate it some three or four years later after the release, but you know,
that's what it is.
That's deep.
Hey, when we come back, we're going to ask Michael Jordan Peyton our rapid fire questions.
Hopefully hopefully we gave you enough time to brush up on your hip hop because we're gonna ask you some real questions We're gonna take this break.
Let's go Yes, we're back
We're going to pick some more grapes with Michael Jordan Peyton.
Thank you for staying on with us.
We're going to ask you some rapid fire fun culture questions real quick because we're going to let you out of this beautiful, beautiful interview.
And hopefully we can have you back.
Oh, yeah.
I'll
be back next week.
Yes, sir.
We want to know about that project.
So give us a favorite Ja Rule song.
Don't think, just
answer.
Damn, they something I have to think.
Dow Info Murder.
Ashanti, underrated, properly rated or legendary?
Oh man, I mean both, underrated and legendary.
Like she, yeah, legendary.
What's on your playlist right now that no one would expect?
Sabrina Carpenter.
Sabrina Carpenter.
Yeah, see, look, you got to catch up on nine.
Who is it?
Who
is it?
Me, Espresso.
That me, Espresso.
House tour.
Yeah.
It's on my house tour.
It's on my summer playlist.
Go to the third floor.
Shout out to
Sabrina.
Hey, bro.
Hey, hey, the third, the fourth, the attic.
What?
She ain't slick.
Hey, y'all, I'm lost.
I'm lost.
Somebody help me out in the chat.
Somebody help me out in the chat.
Call in something, get Sabrina on the phone.
I don't know what's going on.
Hey,
y'all got an extra hour?
I can wait for that.
We all got an extra hour of Sabrina on the phone, right?
That's funny.
OK, what movie or documentary changed your life as a storyteller?
Defying ones.
Say it again
defiant ones
defiant ones if you're
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Right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, Tiana Taylor.
Okay.
Yep.
Yep.
She was good.
She was she was cold in that last film the film with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Cole.
Yeah.
Favorite movie of all time.
Godfather.
Okay.
Mine is five heartbeats.
Favorite.
Okay.
Shout out to the five heartbeats.
Shout out to Robert Townsend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Love.
Favorite black filmmaker?
John Singleton.
Right on.
He's from Oakland.
Am I
wrong?
He's from LA.
Okay.
Coffee or tea?
Coffee.
Morning or night?
Depends on what we're doing.
I'll say night.
I'll say night is my most creativity comes out.
Yes.
Book or podcast?
These days, podcast.
Which one?
I love my book.
Man, you know, shout out to Atlanta.
I've been listening to a lot of Big Facts Network with Bank and it's over on Revolte.
It's just listening to OGs, man.
It's just like, get so much game.
Also listen a lot of political podcasts.
So I'm like I'm on a I love a hacks on tap with a David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.
I'm a I'm a political junkie.
Y'all ain't figured that out by now.
But yeah, that's like my weird
hobby.
I'ma get you in trouble.
JZ or DMX?
JZ.
Okay.
Nas.
I mean, I love love X though.
Love X recipes that go ahead.
Nas are 50 cent.
Come on, man.
Nas.
OK.
Lil Wayne or Ti.
Oh,
come on, man.
Tunchy.
I'm going to go with Tunchy.
OK.
Tunchy.
Shout out to Tunchy and my Nola family.
Yeah.
Paid in full or New Jack City?
Hey,
man with the who wrote these questions man y'all got
calm down man.
Don't start asking questions now.
You gotta
Hey now I'm thinking too.
No, no, I can't think.
Um, New Jack City fool.
Nah, nah, pay the fool.
Pay the fool.
Pay the fool.
Best.
I don't ask
best hip hop movie ever that you ever seen.
Pay
the fool.
Okay.
All right.
Pay the fool.
Okay.
Last last couple of questions.
Greatest producer of all time.
Dr. Dre, period.
Best hip hop duo.
Outcast.
Your favorite DJ.
Oh, ooh.
There's a caveat to this.
The engineer is also a DJ that you just laughed with.
So if you don't say his name, I'm just
kidding.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
I'm about to say, you know, I want to say this too.
This ain't a question or answer, but shout to murdering engineer Milwaukee Buck.
It's from there too.
It's from Milwaukee.
So we interviewed him in a doc.
He did.
He engineered a lot of the hits that y'all all know and love.
So
he's from
Milwaukee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Buck 3000 Milwaukee buck buck 3000.
Yeah, he produced he engineered a lot of their records that y'all would not like Caught up with Jarl rule and Lloyd a bunch of a bunch of murdering joints.
I was like hits So he you know shout to Milwaukee, but I bet y'all didn't know that little piece of Milwaukee history.
Did you
know I didn't know but some people in the in the booth they saying they know.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's my that's that's the guy,
but
um, so favorite DJ.
Okay.
Um Damn man, y'all got me stomped on that one.
Um
No, I can't say I got somebody am I gonna say them because I don't I don't rock on no more, but um, I'll say dang DJ Premier.
I don't know
all
day.
All day, you know, I mean technically.
So yeah.
And last two questions is hip hop healthier today or 20 years ago
by healthier.
What do you mean?
Like mentally, physically, spiritually, in the sense.
Ah, that's a tough, that's a hard question, man, because I feel like in some ways it is.
I would say no.
I would say no, it's not.
I think no, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's strong in terms of like the, you know, how much airplay and stuff it gets, but in terms of we not really musically, we not really saying a lot.
I'll be just being honest, like from a bigger standpoint, from a
Ecosystem perspective very strong, very healthy, but from a voice the way we used to have, not at all.
And yes or no, is lyricism making a comeback?
No.
Okay.
Michael, where can people find
you?
I'm really active on Instagram.
You can find me at Michael Jordan Payton.
I know it was long, but somebody had to Michael J Payton and Michael B Jordan stole my whole face and everything.
So, you know, we don't talk about that, but Michael Jordan Payton on Instagram.
I'm very active on there.
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, but, you know, I was supposed to be the twin in, in, in.
in the movement centers, but you know, somehow my application, my tape got thrown out.
But anyway, y'all can find me on Instagram, YouTube, same thing at Michael Jordan Payton.
I'll be remiss if I don't say.
We actually are dropping, I think this week, we are dropping the director's cut of a documentary I made with Kenneth Supreme McGriff that was executive produced by
Mike Tyson, as well as a bunch of others called The Supreme Truth.
It's actually out right now on YouTube, but we're dropping the extended director's cut this week.
So look for that on Gerald Prince Miller's YouTube page.
So excited about that.
And yeah, YouTube and Instagram are my...
My weapons of choice.
Make sure you tag us.
The Truth Radio in Milwaukee.
Make sure you tag us on those when they come out.
And we'll be happy to comment and like and subscribe to the projects that you got going on.
Michael J, I'm going to say Michael J Peyton.
Glad you came on to the Truth Radio and the grapevine to pick some grapes with us, man.
We definitely appreciate your love.
your graciousness to stay on the extra time and definitely appreciate you.
Appreciate you.
It's been a great interview, man.
I'm dead serious.
Next week, I'm going to be coming back for five minutes to talk about this project I got coming out, man.
So y'all get ready, Milwaukee.
Y'all going to hear a lot from me.
That's right.
We're going to appreciate the opportunity.
We're going to expect you on that private jet next year, though.
Y'all get a ride.
Y'all can hop on with me.
Let's do it.
All right, y'all.
Thank you very much.
We're going to take this break.
Thank you, Mike.
Let's take this break now.
Thank you.
Yes.
Yes.
Man, that beat.
Let me start freestyling real quick.
It was freestyle over that beat.
Before we get into our next segment, I want to remind everybody that
When you are Going through life It's it's You got a hustle it is about hustle it ain't it ain't just about You know just cruising sometimes you do have to hustle so before we get into your church your food your doctor I want to talk about your hustle because Everything we're discussing today started with somebody who had to grind just to survive When did you have to hustle the hardest in your life?
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That was a fantastic interview.
That was a fantastic interview about Michael J. Peyton, Michael Jordan Peyton and his life and his journey from Oakland to New York back to LA.
And what he was exhibiting was what we call hustle.
And what I, what I deem in part due to his, uh, his sense of discipline, his, his note, his worth, his, his self worth, he was poured into by somebody and he was able to multiply that, that pouring his cup became overflowing.
And he's also lending that information that that those affirmations into everybody else that are that's around them.
So he developed a company called C-suite music to address recognizable needs in our community.
This is real life.
So thank you to Erica Oldham.
Thank you to Michael J. Peyton.
You guys did a fantastic job and I really appreciate
all the things that you have passed on to our listeners here at the truth.
Now hustle and hustle in the black community isn't a trend.
It's a survival mechanism that's, you know, ultimately passed down through generations.
You had your grandfather who or great grandfather that was in reconstruction or great, great grandfather that was, you know, had to walk through themselves through reconstruction and then.
From there, you know, they, they passed down that information, that hustle information to the, their, that your grandfather.
And then from your grandfather, that information was passed down to your dad.
And now to you.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
What was the moment in your life that you had to dig the deepest where you was fighting tooth and nail to get from one space to the next.
A lot of us.
And I.
I'm asking this question because a lot of us are in this space right now where it's not all hoops and dreams.
You can't just switch, make a basket, and then you're at the top.
It doesn't work that way.
Everybody is working hard to get to the next place.
Everybody has a dream.
Everybody has a vision.
What was the moment in your life?
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What was the moment in your life where you had to dig the deepest where you were fighting for what you needed to happen?
You needed this thing to happen.
What was that one thing?
And I can say that I remember
just talking about grandparents.
I remember my grandfather giving a sum of money to my uncle for him to start a nightclub, and it became one of the more successful nightclubs and cultural centers in the state of Wisconsin.
It was on Martin Luther King Drive.
I don't know, I think it was Four Street at the time, I think.
Fourth or third street I think wherever Martin Luther King Drive is now and he he gave him, you know some some money and He was able to start the upstairs downstairs in the campus and the the concept of the upstairs downstairs was the fact that he would have you know some cultural things on one side of the one side of the The building and then the other side so the you know cultural things could be considered
you know, whatever it is, you know, sports for kids, you name it.
And then on the other side of it would be a nightclub.
And I think at one point he had a glass up and the kids would be playing, they would just be leaving, you know, having to go home and then people would be going into the nightclub, you know, going to Boogie Lou.
So what was, what was that, what was that, that point in, in you guys' lives where you had to hustle or are you still hustling?
Is it still hustle?
I know it's not a uncommon thing to do that in the black community, especially the black community.
And is there a difference between opportunities and an opportunity just for hustle's sake or opportunity just to eat?
Is there a difference?
What's the difference between hustling for opportunity versus hustling just to eat?
Is there a difference?
I think for me, I think for me, there is a, there is a great divide between hustling for opportunity, like you're hustling for, you know, the opportunity to make it to a, to a job or whatever, make it on the job versus hustling just to eat because, you know, hustling just to eat is that if you're looking to eat, like that is.
a real survival, that is a survival need.
Like you need to eat.
Like there has to be, there has to be food in your belly or else you're, you know, you're, you're, you're going to be struggling and not just your, your belly, not just your body, but also the other person that's sitting next to you could be your, your spouse, your, your children, you know, your grandparents, whoever, but is, is there
a difference between hustling for opportunity and hustling just to eat.
But in correspondence to that, when does healthy hustle become a toxic grind?
What does that cost your body?
Are we hustling to no end?
I remember building
some businesses and building a business and looking up and finding myself not sleeping for like, you know, days on end, literally days on end.
There was this saying that Beyonce one day, there was this famous saying, Beyonce, she was on the set of one movie and then went to another movie and she looked up and she found that she wasn't sleeping and 50 Cent the same way.
And, uh, and other, other entertainers, the same exact thing, what keeps them going is this, this motor.
But when you, when you look up, you're looking at health issues, looking at insomnia or developed insomnia, acquired insomnia, you're looking at, uh, um, you know, hypertension and you're looking at obesity, things that you never thought you'd have to, uh, fight.
You're fighting those Milwaukee.
I'm asking you.
Let's let's feel powerful.
Let's do powerful.
Let's be powerful.
Today we talked about hustle, how grinding to survive took something from you from your body that you never never got back.
We talked about soulful, how what fed us through the hardest times is now contributing to our our hardest health battles.
We talked about the black church and how that place.
how the place that saved our souls may need to stop saving our bodies too.
And now I'm asking you, what are you going to change?
Not tomorrow, not next year.
This week, get to check up, modify one recipe, ask your pastor for a walking group, talk to one person about how you're really doing.
The hustle was never supposed to kill you.
The food was always supposed to nourish you and the church was always supposed to heal you.
So let's get back to that Milwaukee.
Let's get back to it.
Let's get back to it.
Take care of yourselves out there for real.
Next, we got tapping with Jazz Meach on the truth 101.7.
Thank you all for listening and I'm out to the grapevine.