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I have a very, very, very special guest in the building, but I'm not going to do just a small minute introduction.

I got to do the big introduction.

All right.

We are talking about Apostle Rodente L. Ashford, who is a pastor, a preacher, teacher, entrepreneur, community leader, and visionary, committed to faith, family, leadership, and community transformation.

He is the senior servant and founder of the Infinite Church in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where he provides spiritual leadership with a passion for preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, developing disciples, equipping leaders, strengthening families,

helping people fulfill their God-given purpose.

Thank you for tapping in with me today.

Oh,

man, I'm excited.

I was like, hey, I'm sitting there listening like, man, that's me.

I am excited.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me on today.

I'm super excited and just honored and privileged to be here.

Yes.

Been around a long time.

I know it.

I know it.

I was talking to my students about you last week and a couple of days this week.

First and foremost,

I do want to announce that I am officially a member of the Infinite Church.

Oh,

man.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

You know, it was a great service this past Sunday.

I've been at school inviting my students and everything, but super, super grateful for you and your wife, Dr. Erica, and all the work that you guys do.

You know, and this means so much.

because of the kind of person you are in the integrity in which you hold.

I mean, even if you don't mind me shifting, even in the music when you were doing music.

And you know what I mean?

So, you know, to see people genuinely, you know, transition and still following

the flow as they say, you know what I

mean?

Still following the flow, but on a higher level and on a greater level.

That really, really means more to me than anything.

Well, you are.

I got to thank you for that because so I was talking to my youth about you because I was explaining the history of Milwaukee music and who was a part of creating the Milwaukee music, the sound, you know, all of that.

And you are a prominent figure.

We were just talking last week about the situation with the garage and how a lot of people disagreed and don't go there if they won't play the Milwaukee rap music, but it's like you have no idea who put in work so that we could have an industry

here.

And thank you for even acknowledging that because I'm really from that class, that grade, not by myself.

but truly was a part of the pioneers that helped bring this about in Milwaukee, on the Milwaukee scene.

There was no scene.

There was no

hip hop scene.

And I mean, I go all the way back to B-Boy Days with Dr. B,

you

know what I mean?

But there was no scene and we were cultivating and creating it.

There was no groups performing at a summer fest or African World Festival or being given a chance.

So just being part of that fresh wind, but to see

the way that you guys took that baton and pressed it so forward.

whether it's, you know, my son, Wave Chappelle, or whether it's, you know, you Jazz, or whether it's, you know, Ray Nitty, all the way to Big Frank, to Steve D'Astoner, you know, to watching what these guys are doing.

Little chicken, you know, chicken pee,

as they say, right?

You know, watching what these guys are doing, I'm like an awe, and I'm such a fan of it.

It's absolutely amazing.

And, you know, God bless his soul, my best friend, OG Tweezy.

You know, if he was here, we talked about

this

so much.

because we put in so much work when there was no social media.

There were no pictures.

We come from the class where

if you were

taking pictures, you were like the police

or

something.

So it's like to really come from that era and to see what it's developed into now.

You know, man, there's so many artists that I absolutely love all the way.

Me and Biko was talking about Prof the other day.

I love Prof.

Prof so.

And, you know, all the way to Big Frank.

Big Frank is like so dope.

He is like

amazing.

You know, Steve the Stoner, he is dope.

Like when, you know, forget

all the

dances, the dude got good music.

You

know what I mean?

And so I'm a huge fan of the scene.

So.

And when I watched the garage situation, you know, I didn't say anything about it because my son was representing

and

he was speaking up about it and others were speaking up about it and giving their opinions or whatever.

But you guys have a right to fight for those things because it wasn't handed to you easily.

It was

cultivated, it was created, it was curated.

And I'm grateful to watch the way you guys are stewarding it and making sure that it's respected on every level.

Yes.

Thank you so much for that.

because we haven't had the opportunity to have a conversation with what the young people consider you as the OG, right?

Or to go home

and

about this.

And I simply was just trying to express the importance of the scene, period, right?

They are actually making money off of this.

They are living, right?

So to disrespect the entire hip hop scene, but not to mention everybody don't even wrap the same.

It

came boxes all together.

But to disrespect the culture period,

you

know, and and those are, you know, they have, you know, if you don't want to play.

Now, I'm on the flip side.

I

do understand that that there is some messaging that does not fit certain venues.

Absolutely.

You know

what I mean?

There's some messaging and I do get that part.

But don't you can't wipe.

the whole thing.

That's not proper.

You know what I mean?

That's not proper.

But I do agree that there's some messaging.

And that kind of also...

pushes the envelope back to in the hands of this group, because we had to be creative.

And if we could be lended, if we could be voices to lended ears, you know, these are this new group of artistry, you know, go back and be creative, man, make, you know, make two versions of the song, make the one that's for the streets, but also make the one that's still for the radio and for the club and things of that nature.

So I think it's an interesting dialogue, but I love

You know, OG, you either are OG or you just old.

Yep, come on now.

You know what I mean?

For real.

And just because you old and wear Jays, that don't make you an OG.

Come on.

You

know what I mean?

Are you really, really, really able to help

the

current generation see their way and back up?

in confidence and let them handle

it.

You understand what I'm saying?

And so that's why I take pride in considering myself as one of the OGs.

Not because I'm older, I just turned 52, but because I know how to speak, I have private conversations with Steve, and I have private conversations with Wave, and then I back up out the

way.

Let y'all handle it.

Whatever your play is, you call it.

It's your play.

You

know what I mean?

So I just take pride in that part of...

the game, you know what I mean?

Something you said was interesting to me, and that is providing an option for them to do both a clean version and a street version.

And I realized when you said that a lot of the artists now don't make radio edited versions because the radio stations don't support local artists in the city of Milwaukee.

Right, and that's because, but can I just say something?

Absolutely.

Honestly, because we are on radio.

One of the things that I learned and later in my career, which was very helpful

uh, to like wave and others was that, uh, I was in the streets and we were cultivating this industry.

And then I went down south for many years and I worked with a hundred promotions and set in the pace and Lester pace and all of these huge radio guys.

And I learned how radio actually

works.

So radio doesn't work the way that most artists perceive it to work.

And that's where you got to learn the music business.

When you learn the business, you learn how radio actually worked.

It's not, it works.

It's not that.

radio won't play the artist.

Artists here don't necessarily have the tools or the know-how of how to actually break a song

or

how to act, what it actually takes.

They think, oh, just because I know the DJ, that the DJ got power, the DJ don't got no power over

that

playlist.

You know what I

mean?

So

it's like, you got to learn how to actually work a record and things of that nature.

Once these artists grab hold of that and understand that radio was still important,

even in

the middle

of, right, even in the midst of the technological age, the TikTok, the, you know, the Instagram, the hits, the

clicks.

But when they realized that radio was still important, once our Milwaukee artists mastered that part, which I got a lot of game on

this, but

once they master this part, I'm gonna be out of here.

I'm

talking about Grammys, I'm talking about, I'm talking about in the game.

There's two music

industries.

There's a,

actual music industry, right?

And then there's this false music

industry,

right?

If you want to be in the actual music industry, you had to learn the game.

And that's why you see a lot of down soft artists break.

I was with Dof before Dof

broke.

You know what I mean?

I was, I was, you know, there when two chains re-vamped his career.

And I was there.

I was in the room.

And so what I'm saying is, it's like, you know, I worked with Yo Gotti.

I worked with CMG.

I worked records to radio.

I know what this thing actually is to be actually in the building where the deals are actually signed.

Right?

So when you don't, you know,

You know what our young artists they they need to be able to be creative and for Forth thinking and sometimes they don't want to hear it

and

that's cool But once they grab once Milwaukee grabs a whole and it's getting better getting better production wise getting better song wise getting better with the way that they Put out music and social media sphere,

but

once they learn this radio game

It's gonna be

over with.

They're gonna take over.

They're gonna take over.

Anywhere you put somebody from Milwaukee, think about this.

Think about your travels.

Think about your travels, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's Dallas, whether it's Houston, whether it's LA, whether it's New York.

When you see somebody from Milwaukee,

they

be

on.

You know why?

Because our slow speed is the world's fast

speed.

You understand?

We come from

We come from the worst of the worst and the most aggressive.

We're the most aggressive.

When I moved down south, I ain't trying to over talk here.

When I moved down south, I was shocked that people spoke to each other.

You know what I'm saying?

I was like,

what you mean, what's

up?

I

don't know you.

You say, what's up?

Like, what's up?

You know what I mean?

So it was like, you know, I was shocked that people spoke to each other.

So our slow speed is the world's fast speed.

So that's why when people typically move out of Milwaukee and I'm not

campaigner for everybody to move.

But typically when you see people outside of Milwaukee,

they're doing well.

Absolutely.

They're doing well.

I'm a witness to that, too.

We got Apostle Rodante Ashford with us today.

We got to go to break to pay some bills.

Do not touch that dial.

It should girl jazz Tyler one on one, seven the truth.

I

am sitting here with I can say my pastor now But a posture where don't say Ashford

You guys may know him as being a pastor right now, but he has put in a lot of work in this city.

He has been around for quite some time.

Prior to you coming, I was talking about the two-pot verdict.

Do you remember when Pot came to Milwaukee at the Mecca?

I was

there, met him twice,

met

two-pot two times.

I was there, I was there not only when Pot came to Milwaukee.

When Pot came to Milwaukee the first time, he didn't even have Thug Life tattooed on his belly.

You

know what I'm saying?

That was at the rave.

The second time,

and Homer Blower attested this.

The second time is when there was the melee.

I was there.

I was right there in the midst of that when Paka literally ran across the street to the Hyatt, MC8.

This is real.

This is

how much in the mix I

was.

The city had jumped MC8.

MC8 actually talks about this.

And me and Big Hank, the producer of In My Projects, we were the people who stood between

Everybody and MC8.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now that's real.

You know what?

Cuz I'm laughing because I can hear Tony boys in my head.

Me and Tony been going back and forth.

Well, we was on a phone for about two hours talking about this

a

couple years ago.

But one of the things that stood out the most to me was yes, it was a lot of mayhem.

Yes, it was a lot of people a miscommunication, but

that man stood for something in every room he was in.

Well, he was

standing for something at that moment.

Right.

That was about something.

About yummy.

Yeah, it was about yummy, so

that was

about something.

And that's what I'm saying, like, I remember, you know, the faces I remember in the room, and we all from this culture, so I remember Reggie Brown was there.

I remember Hummerblow was there.

Like,

we were...

there.

They

remember me there.

You know what

I mean?

If you ask them, so these are valid stories, right?

Like, no cap.

Now, people

say Fat Jopie cap

it.

We

were in

the room when this happened.

And

we didn't realize at that moment when it was taking place that we record.

This is historic, right?

Because this is a, this is a conversation.

It ain't just about the melee, but it's this is something that has been discussed around the world.

And this was at the emergence of Tupac at the.

at the crescendo of everything he was.

This is like when he began to

really- This is pre-outlaws.

This is thug

life.

This is thug

life.

Right.

This is thug life.

And this is when it all emerged.

After that, it was on and popping.

You know, of course, we know, you know, you know, the most influential artists, period.

You know, the movies, the music, the impact, like, Tupac's music was different because we didn't just listen to it, we felt it,

you

know?

He made us, he made us feel, you know, whether it was anger, whether it was, uh, excitement

or

whether it was straight up tears.

Like we

cried.

We were within the hood, like literally with tears in our

eyes.

Like

he moved us

in a

different kind of way and nobody ever moved the needle like that.

We love the rhymes of everybody else.

We love the

entertainment of everybody else, but that was the soul

of

the streets and we felt him.

I

call him the preacher of the industry.

Yeah, yeah, we felt him.

We felt him.

His what is your thoughts on on this case?

Again, you know, we was kind of having an off air conversation about the fact that 30 years later there has been so much speculation surrounding who was involved or what happened so much to the point that it kind of overshadowed.

the work that he has done.

What is one important takeaway from this case, this murder trial?

Well, the biggest takeaway is that, again, there's always two conversations happening.

There's an industry conversation, and then there's a streets conversation.

So

the streets always knew.

We always knew exactly what took place

for

Tupac.

We never not knew what took place.

We

knew exactly what took place, exactly what it was about.

We

knew exactly who was in that car and what was involved.

The streets always knew.

All right?

My biggest takeaway was that this guy was so obsessed.

And you know, this is where the spiritual side of, if you just let me just say this

real quick, you know,

because I believe that demons will always expose themselves.

And I believe that a demon can keep his mouth shut.

And so he talked his way back into jail.

He

talked his way to jail.

He talked his way to the sentence.

So, you know what I'm saying?

It's like that.

And when you do something like that, when you commit murder, when you, when you take somebody's life, like, you know what I'm saying?

The Bible talks about how somebody's blood will cry out.

And you know what I mean?

So, so, so I don't, you know, he may.

You know, no matter how long, you know, truth crushed to the ground was soon rise.

You

know, so

it doesn't matter how long he got away with it.

You know, nobody told on him.

He told on his cell.

He did interview after

interview after interview.

And so, you know, you talked about, you know, somebody tricking you out your spot.

He

tricked his self

out of his spot.

Yep.

You

know what I'm saying?

Talked his way right.

Talked his way into a life sentence.

Yes, he did.

So.

Speaking of not allowing people to trick you out of your spot, right?

I want to talk about this.

This is something that, and you are actually in one of my clips.

I talk about it all the time.

When we had the conversation, you told me what's in me is for me and what overflows is for everybody else.

And I use that reminder often when I feel like I'm overdoing it or overstretching myself.

And every time I get to that point,

I realize that I become impatient, right?

I start feeling like I am activity driven and not purpose driven.

And then the attacks come and then I become vulnerable, right?

To the attacks and then it becomes a situation of jazz.

You are allowing someone to trick you out of your spot, right?

So what does that mean to you in a spiritual sense?

What does don't allow someone to take your position means?

Well, well, first and foremost, nobody can take your position.

Like even if somebody does the exact same thing as you, it's not you doing

it,

right?

And so nobody can take your position.

But what I hear when you're saying those kinds of things and I would tell the listeners and anybody, I believe every, gifts come with our repentance and everybody should pray for the spirit of discernment.

Everybody

should ask God for discernment.

And I've come to find out that oftentimes,

It's not even the attacks that trick us out of our spot.

Sometimes it's what attracts us.

Because the attacks

are

easy to identify, right?

Like, you know when somebody trying to go upside your head or when somebody being shady, you know when somebody trying to cross you, you know that, right?

Like, you can read that from a mile away.

the things that come a little subtle is the things that pull us.

What's

attracting me out of my, you know, it could it be an opportunity that I was not supposed to

take?

Could it be, you know what

I

mean?

Could it be a friendship that I was not supposed to accept,

right?

So sometimes it's not the things that attack us, sometimes it's the things that attract us.

And that's the more dangerous thing right there, right?

Because, you know,

that attraction that can lullaby us to sleep.

You know what I

mean?

It makes us put our guards down, right?

It

makes

us become, you said vulnerable, but it makes us become vulnerable because we don't see it as harmful.

We don't see it as dangerous.

You know, I do construction too, so it's a rule that I live by in construction.

I never let a client tell me it's just.

It's just this way.

It's just that way,

right?

It's just can you can you take this little screw out?

It's just

yeah,

right?

Yeah, it's just it's gonna cause it's gonna cost you yep,

cuz when I take that screw out it might be connected to something else so You know so sometimes you have to watch out for it's just

yeah, yeah,

it's just a little weed.

Yeah the temptation.

It's just a little

It's just

a little

turn up.

Yeah,

but this might be the one that make you lose your gig.

You know what I mean?

So it's like you got to be careful.

You got to be mindful.

You got to be discerning, you know, things of that nature.

And I think that anybody has the ability to pray for that, especially if you're covered in the blood.

You know, I believe that you should, you know, should pray and say, Lord, give me discernment.

Help

me.

You know, the Lord says no good, good thing while I withhold from you.

So I don't think that God is, is a.

spinning you or trying to put you through

the

loop.

You know, you say, give me discernment.

Teach me how to discern, you know, how to stay on course.

Because oftentimes it's not that people walk us off of our course.

Oftentimes we walk off

our

own course.

The Children of Israel wandered 40 years in a place that was looking for a place that was right around the corner.

You

know.

They're

a 40-year journey

looking for something that was right around the corner.

I want to say this last thing.

I dropped out of high school when I was 17.

I went to Madison and then I went to Vincent.

I dropped out of Vincent.

Literally, my senior year, I dropped out of high school.

I ended up going back to school 27 years old, got my GED and enrolled myself in college.

When I walked across the stage, you know what I said to myself?

I could have did this 10 years

ago.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Yes.

So it's like, you know, discerning, you know, I should have, if I would have had the discernment then and the discipline,

the

state of course, early, I wouldn't have had to go back and redo it.

And

how many things in our life are we trying to redo, refurbish, rehash,

you

know, reinvest, different things like that, you know, nobody took your money, you blew it yourself.

Come

on.

Nobody.

took your opportunity, you blew that yourself, you know?

So learning

how to discern, because if you look from an attack mindset, you'll start looking outward.

But when you look from an attraction mindset, you start looking

inward.

What's pulling me?

Come on now.

Oh, we gotta finish this conversation.

All right, all right, all right, all right.

When we come

back from break, do not touch that dial.

Got Apostle Rodante Ashford in the building that should grow Jazz Tyler one on one, seven of the

truth.

No, I can't take it easy.

Take my girl, VK overseas.

Top down head blowing in the breeze.

Let it breathe.

Let it breathe.

Go hard.

No, I can't take it easy.

Got to get what I want.

I need it.

One on one,

seven is true.

This is your girl, Jaz Tyler.

We are live and direct.

And I have a special guest in the building, Apostle Radonte Ashford.

Thank you so much for joining me.

I'm excited.

We've been having a great conversation thus far.

Before we went to break, you actually led us into the next segment.

It was temptation.

Oh, man.

It was temptation, but not in a sense that the society makes it to be right.

So a lot of times I feel like society, when I think about temptation, is always...

flesh, right?

But it's not about, like you said, opportunities that come or certain friendships, you know, things of that nature, things that actually define or assist you with recognizing what's wrong on the inside.

So how do we combat that in situations that are sent to destroy our peace?

So it depends when you're talking about temptation, because, you know, the Bible says, you know, a man is not tempted.

just by what's on outside, but what's on the

inside.

And we're drawn away by the lust of our hearts, the things we see, our appetite, so on and so forth.

And so it really depends on what the draw is and what the pull is, because I'm gonna tell you right now, there's some things that you need to fight.

There's some temptations that you need to fight.

Like,

hey, if you're craving bread or...

So does

that's

something you need to stay and fight you dig in and get your disciplines But then there's some stuff you need to flee So just learning

the difference of

win the fight and win the flee

You

know what I'm saying because there's some stuff that I don't need to hang around this and try to will power this out There's some things I need to physically remove myself from the spectrum of whatever this is that

can

be

of fighting, it can be sex, it can be drugs,

it can

be, I need to remove myself.

And so again, that's why discernment is so powerful, learning the things that you have to fight and learning the things I need to flee from.

You gotta

know yourself, you know what I'm saying?

You gotta, you know.

You know what it is,

you

know?

So don't trick yourself.

And I think that one of the ways that

helps you in fighting and in fleeing is to remain authentic and honest with yourself.

Absolutely.

Don't trick yourself.

Don't tell yourself, oh, again, it's just, you know, tell yourself the truth.

You know, even, you know, I don't know what one's relationship is with everybody else.

If you feel like you have to lie to everybody else, but show don't lie to

yourself.

You know what I'm saying?

That person that you in the mirror with don't lie to that person.

They're like, keep it 100.

with this person right here.

And so, you know, if you, you know, telling yourself, hey, I'm, I'm, I'm going, but I, I ain't gonna drink, but you know, you're gonna drink.

You need to flee that thing.

You

need

to.

Don't go.

Don't go.

Right.

And then they say you, I can funny.

And, you know, I've accepted it.

You know, jazz, I can funny now.

I am.

And this, because I have too much to lose.

And I'm trying to become a better person, um, which for myself.

which leads me to the next part of this conversation.

So there's a couple things.

When you were talking, I thought of a couple things.

One, for those who may be new on their journey to God, their spiritual journey, how does one identify the difference between discernment and imitation from the enemy?

Because a lot of times things can come and appear.

like it's sent from God, obviously.

And then if you're not, if your discernment isn't strong enough, you won't be able to understand.

Well, you know, there is a naivety that I think all of us have carried at one point in life in many different arenas,

not

just in the spiritual spectrum.

I mean,

you can come into a new job and be naive

as to

how the systems flow and

who's

the who or whatever it culture.

So there's an arena of naivety for all of us, right?

And I think in those moments, I think that's where we have to lean.

We're speaking from a spiritual sense.

We have to lean on God to be a shepherd.

We have to lean on him when David said, he leads me beside the still waters.

Right.

So that's what I have to lean on, on the one who's leading me.

Because I have to acknowledge that's been honest with myself.

I have to acknowledge that I don't know

that

I don't, I don't have, you know, all of the spiritual weaponry or tools or know how to navigate through this space.

So in this area right here.

I'm just gonna lean on you.

You know what I mean?

And I've learned that in so many different areas of my life, whether it was the first time going into a studio, a professional studio with Big Hank and saying, amen, I don't know this, but I'm gonna have to lean on you.

And I remember, I'll tell you a cool story, but still leaning into this, when Cuckoo Cow first, when we first signed Cuckoo Cow, he didn't know how to do a 16 bar measure.

He would just

rap.

He would just rap

like 52 bars, like

clinic bars.

And I remember, and he'll tell you this, I remember sitting with him and literally teaching him how to do bars, right?

And so what I'm saying is that when you are in that space where you don't really know how to discern, lean on somebody else, get you a stronger friend, get you somebody a little more seasoned, you know.

Call on the Lord whatever it is that in whatever arena find you a mentor

right

find you somebody else That's the power that we all have that we all could Find somebody to mentor us even the disciples that row with Jesus They didn't have faith these were apostles right

by the way

These were not like junior ministers or junior

deans

These were apostles and these men said men said Lord teach us how to pray.

Yeah

Right.

Yes.

So we needed somebody to mentor us in this area where we're naive, where we don't know what we're doing.

Once you acknowledge that you don't know what you're doing, you leave room for somebody to help you.

Because when the student shows up, the teacher can teach.

Yeah.

But first you have to accept it.

And like you said, be real with yourself.

One of the questions that I want to ask you based off of conversations I've had with myself and others, your journey has been very unique.

You've been a part of the music industry.

Also, you're an imposter, a pastor, all of the above.

A lot of times when people make the shift and, including myself, when we make that shift from this world into this world, right, it's not an identity crisis, but it's more so trying to accept the new version of you.

How was that transition like for you?

And how are you still able to balance, you know, not being lukewarm while...

still being involved in both areas.

Well, you know what?

There was a season that I think of all of our lives.

All of us have seasons of our lives that we don't want recorded.

Yes.

You know, and I was grateful that I was able to transition in obscurity.

Oftentimes

we

want to, we want to transition, you know, in front of the crowd.

But remember,

that Moses was on the backside of the mountain.

Jesus would retreat into the mountains.

You have to learn how to get an obscurity, get to yourself and allow that space, that transition to take place.

And so when I came out of the streets, I was going to church and can I just be transparent

with you?

When I came to church.

Now I used to club every day of my life, like literally Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

Thursday, Friday.

And then I got saved.

Like God saved me fresh out the street.

So now I'm in Memphis and I got this, this habit of wanting to be out to two or three o'clock in the morning, but I'm under this kind of conviction where I don't want to be in the club and then have my pastor send something

to me on,

you know

what I mean?

And man, for a long time I used to be like literally.

in my car riding two or three o'clock in the morning, just riding.

A lot of times.

That was still fleeing.

That was still fleeing, but I would, no, I would pull up to the parking lot sometime, just sit there.

I couldn't go in, but I'm still, it's like that's that battle.

So

it's like, you know, it's not all at once.

When you put clothes on the washing machine, they don't just pop out clean, you gotta let them go through their cycle.

So I think that's something that we as mature believers even have to learn how to do.

And younger believers have to learn, you know, let people go through their cycle.

Let them go through their growing phase.

You know, the bigger strength is, like I said, that's why it's good to have a mentor.

Can you get with somebody that's mature enough to let you evolve and let you grow and let you transition without judging you, condemning you as your

Going through that processing.

Yes.

Absolutely.

We got to go to break.

Do not touch that dial.

It should girl jazz Tyler one on one seven the truth.

Yeah.

I know good.

No both around the way.

Everybody hustling to get the pay.

Many tickets to the church.

Let us pray God watching over me.

Take, take little take what they call me one from especially on my mama

side.

I'm having a trip with your girl, Jazz Tyler.

We are live and direct.

Shout out to Pastor Rodonte Ashford and Wave Chappelle, man, for those who are not familiar.

He is a father of Wave Chappelle.

It runs in the blood.

In the bloodline.

I guess indeed.

A little tight.

It runs in the blood.

So I was just sharing offline my experience this past week.

Shout out to Brother Aziz.

And five stars and brother Jacob's like we had an amazing conversation

a kaya

a kaya so much to the point where I didn't have a choice but to walk in on Sunday like literally what

you're surrounded

I was surrounded so you better go out and it was so many confirmations and so many signs a Lot of people and one of the things you I want to touch on something that you mentioned earlier The privacy part

Because the people that's in my inner circle know my faith.

They know how I am.

A lot of my blessings come because I pray privately, right?

We're living in an age where everyone is on social media.

Everything is just out in the open.

And this is not like the prayer days or nothing.

These are just people who are just, you know, doing it for likes and for attention of what have you.

But I say that to say I truly enjoy the fact that I got the text in the group chat that

The brothers was on at five o'clock this morning praying.

Y'all was on yesterday on a prayers line.

There's a full pantry.

We have a full pantry.

We're feeding right now

1,500 families.

Come on, break it down.

1,563 families that we are responsible for in the greater Milwaukee area.

And we thank the Lord for it, for just being a funnel and being able to do that.

We've housed so many different programs.

trainings, all kinds of things.

And we've birthed so many businesses and so many business owners.

And a lot of people, they, we're just privately connected to so many great people

that are

really doing

the

actual work.

And so that's the thing that I'm proud about.

You know, I can sit back and watch.

You know, Jesus told us to make disciples.

and not to just replicate ourselves, but to make disciples, people that can carry on their own.

So when I see a five-star or when I see a Jazz Tyler, when I see others out here just authentically doing the work, I'm proud, I'm excited about it.

I

sit back and I say my prayers, lift it up to the Lord and be excited about it because that's what it's about for me.

I didn't come to be a mega church.

I came to have a mega impact.

I didn't come to be a mega church.

I have no desire for that.

I'm not even what they call an itinerant preacher.

To be honest, it's like Jay-Z said, we ain't even supposed to be here.

I

don't

even know what he said.

But I'm just grateful to the Lord that he saw fit to grace my life and to snatch me out of the darkness, bring me into the light and then help me.

lead somebody else into the light and encourage somebody else that they can lead somebody else into the light.

And so that's the type of thing that I'm excited about.

I have no desire at this point.

I have no desire to be famous.

I've been famous for a long

time.

I've been famous since young guy, been on billboards and been around the world, traveled.

I have no desire to be famous.

I have no desires for none of that.

I'm just all about my life.

about impact,

like,

you know, like what we doing.

I'm a

builder, like what we doing.

Make it happen.

I tell everybody, Dr. Erica, my wife, she's the corporate head.