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We are officially tapped in.

And if you are joining us, I'm going to give a huge shout out to my pastor, Apostle Rodante Ashford.

We had an amazing interview.

Earlier when I got the news, I did announce it.

But to the parents out there, I just want to remind you and reiterate that MPS is closed tomorrow due to them not having no AC honey.

It's hot.

They don't have no AC.

It's too hot, which is cool.

But I work for a charter school.

So now I'm waiting.

I am waiting to see what their decision is going to be because obviously Cali don't have school tomorrow and I know these children are ecstatic.

They are excited.

They did one day and now school is canceled for tomorrow.

I'm wondering what is it going to be like for the rest of the week as well because it seems as if we are standing in the 90s.

um all week so make sure um you check the news check nps website even if your child does not go to nps still um check in with the school to see if that's that will apply to you guys as well um so

Now that that pastor actually We go talk about the fleshless side of things right y'all can't hide behind a pastor no more We didn't have the spiritual conversation We're going to have the fleshly conversation not to say that we couldn't have it because he is one of the most Trans apparent pastors.

I know right But when we talk about not allowing someone to trick you out of your spot, it is so easy, right?

to say, I'm protecting my peace.

You know, I'm gonna stay to myself until somebody at work send you an email at 9 or 2 in the morning with a certain type of tone.

As you previously stated, oh, okay, so this is how we're starting Tuesday, right?

And now you type it and now you're gonna react.

Or again, like what I said earlier, what happens when you see that person who you said is on site?

But you changed your life, right?

But you changed your life around and now you're running to somebody that it was on site.

How do you not allow people to trick you out of your spot?

We've all been there with their, you know, on a daily basis because recognizing bait and refusing bait are two different levels of maturity.

And sometimes I know exactly what that person is doing.

I know that they are trying to provoke me.

And guess what?

I still want to respond, right?

Sometimes it's not the fact that you need to or need not to respond is how you respond.

Sometimes people will antagonize you and then get mad at you because you didn't fall for the bait, right?

Weird, but it's true.

And that's why today's conversation isn't about becoming emotionless, right?

It's not about removing your emotions to its entirety.

I don't want that.

I believe that that is indeed a curse, not to feel anything I want to feel.

I enjoy to feel love.

I enjoy loving people, right?

But one thing's for sure and two things for certain.

Anger has information.

Anger has information.

Offense has information.

Fear has

information and jealousy has information as well, right?

So what I'm learning is an emotion can provide information without being qualified to make that decision, right?

That's being an adult.

If I feel it, therefore I should do it.

No, that's not how that works.

Think about work.

Somebody undermines you repeatedly, right?

They are slick.

Never quiet enough that you can point to one giant incident, right?

A little comment here, an email there, questioning something you did in front of leadership, copying people who didn't need to be copied.

And now one day they finally say something so disrespectful in the meeting.

And baby, you've been waiting.

You've been waiting to give them a piece of your mind.

You got your whole speech ready.

Right.

Ready to knock all this stuff over.

But here's the question.

What happens tomorrow?

What happens tomorrow?

Once this is all over with, what happens tomorrow?

Right.

It can't be, uh, I'm going to respond and do whatever it is that I need to do in this moment to prove a point without thinking about the consequences behind it.

Right.

So.

Can you survive the consequences of how you choose to win?

And what I mean by that is is Proving a point so important that it can cost you everything that you've worked hard for Just because you want to show somebody that they got you messed up, right?

a lot of people think I'm not gonna say a lot of people some people Well, no a lot of people think I am younger than what I am

Because of how I look because I'm a small petite woman because my voice Still sounds like a teenager or someone young adult rather, right?

and oftentimes They believe that they can play with me because my heart is pure because I'm a you know, I am a gentle person I only get aggressive when people force me to become that way, but the moral of the story is

People create their own perceptions of you and oftentimes I say your perception of me is not my reality because the moment you underestimate me the moment I will show you why you made the wrong mistake, right?

And back in the day it used to be I'm gonna show you why you made the wrong mistake in a different way But now at this age and the relationship that I do have with the creator I don't I cannot afford to do the things that I used to do, right?

So that means that I have to check myself and I say that because again, oftentimes we are tested, right?

And a lot of times it's in ways that we are familiar with and we become accustomed to.

However, we still choose to feel like it's the point of it all, right?

I can't let nobody disrespect me.

I can't let nobody try to show me out in front of somebody else who they think that I will flip everything over in here.

And then I remind myself like, start reminding myself for what?

For what?

What would be the point of it all, right?

You do all of that and then what?

You go to jail for putting your hands on somebody or doing something to somebody.

You lose everything you work so hard for, but most importantly, that spirit that's inside of that person that's antagonizing you will flee and go to someone else.

So it's all worth nothing.

It's all for nothing.

You have to let people be miserable.

You have to allow people to just be miserable in their own right, right?

Your misery has absolutely nothing to do with me.

Whatever you are feeling on the inside, whatever reason you don't have what you always wanted, that don't have nothing to do with me.

So I'm not going to sit here and allow you to trick me into believing that I gotta act a damn fool and lose everything that I work hard for because you want my spot.

If the spot was made for you, God would have prepared you for it.

Evidently it's not for you, it's for me.

What I have is for me.

And there's been so many times.

When I was younger, even some instance of me as an adult where I would almost allow somebody to trick me out of my spot, right?

I would almost, and this goes back to a conversation that Apostle Rodante Ashford was talking about earlier, that discernment, that discipline, temptation, not temptation in the sense of intimacy or things of that nature, right?

We know that.

But what?

Attracted you to this situation to begin with what attracted you to this friendship?

What attracted you to this opportunity or to this position?

What was it that was debate right there?

It attracted you to attack antagonize you so much to the point where They come for everything you got just because they feel like they can or just because they feel the way

And again, this is not me talking at anyone.

This is me simply reminding us as a people, right?

To make sure that we stay disciplined and that we start practicing these things.

We have to start practicing it.

When you follow the sermon and you have matured in your emotions, not only does it save you time, it saves lives.

It saves lives.

How many times did you want to say something to your supervisor?

How many times did you want to say something to your spouse?

How many times did you want to say something to that person that was driving crazy in the middle of the street and cut you off?

Right?

Whenever you find yourself in these situations, remind yourself to never let anybody trick you out my spot.

You can say it out loud.

I tell it to my students all the time.

Okay, cool.

I see what you're doing.

I see the play.

But you can't trick me out my spot.

Because I work too hard for it and I know that it's going to be bigger situations that's going to come.

So if I can't pass this situation, then I'm not prepared for whatever else is to come.

And if I'm not prepared for that, then I'm not prepared for whatever blessings is going to come.

Because the bigger the blessings, the bigger the lessons.

We're going to finish this conversation when we come back from break.

It should grow a jazz title of one on one, seven of the

truth.

I go by the name of Pharrell from the Neptune.

And I just want to let y'all know I'm your push up.

The world is about to feel something.

One on one, seven in truth.

This is your girl, Jazz Tyler.

We are live and directing.

We are having a conversation about not allowing people to trick you out of your spot.

Right.

Um, and this stems from a conversation that I was having earlier with pastor.

I'm sorry.

Apostle Rodante Ashford, but also just real life, uh, scenarios, you know, a lot of times what happens is, um, people, they see the anointing on you.

They see, uh, the favor you have.

They, they don't even have to, they just feel the way.

Right.

And then they come after everything you worked so hard to build.

And again, just to reiterate, this is not me telling you guys things you don't already know.

This is not me telling you what you need to do.

This is me simply saying, hey, true nation, it's your girl, Jazz.

Let's have some real conversations about some things that's going on in my life, right?

Help me, help me.

Let me help you, help you.

Let's practice these things, right?

This is what saved lives.

This is what saved positions.

This is what saves relationships.

Right.

And yes, I mentioned relationships too, because a lot of times people will be tricked out of their relationships based off of insecurity, jealousy, all of the above.

There are people sent that will purposely do something to your spouse, your mate, your partner, just because they don't want you to have what you have.

And when you respond, you are allowing them to trick you out of your spot.

You are allowing them to trick you out of your spot.

I'm not telling you to be weak.

I'm telling you to calculate the cost before you decide to react.

If I behave the same way every time and it becomes predictable,

Right?

I'm offended.

Because that means I'm easy to control.

Think about that.

If every insult produces the same reaction, somebody who understands my ego can operate me like a remote control.

Right?

Push disrespect and jazz gonna explode.

Push jealousy and she will not jealousy because I'm not jealous or insecure.

But push disrespect, that's for show.

Jazz gonna explode.

Push abandonment and she's gonna do this.

No, I don't want nobody knowing my emotional pin number like that G You don't get unlimited access to my nervous system my guy You don't get to dictate how I feel how I react And when you're when you're when you are real with yourself first

We have brother Aziz one last Friday.

He says something that stuck with me because I do the same thing and a lot of times You know, I don't talk about this out loud, but I didn't realize that other people do it too if I catch myself in a thought or act I Used to be like I instantly be like hold on jazz.

Hold on a minute.

You are feeling you doing this now that can come off as wait, hold on

Yes, it was disrespectful.

Yes, this did make you feel an insecurity.

It doesn't mean that you are insecure though, right?

Or why did I feel this when this person told me this?

What I do is check myself and identify what I'm feeling and We talked about this last week too, right?

There's nothing more peaceful than getting to a place when somebody begins to

You know, antagonize you or do something to try and trick you out of your spot.

There's nothing more peaceful than sitting back smiling and saying, you got it.

I promise you do.

You got it.

As Sharon Rock will say, pull arms up.

Pull arms up.

You got it, right?

Because I don't have time to match your energy.

If I decide to match your energy, that makes me you.

And I am not you.

I am not you.

What's harder, controlling your response when somebody is wrong or controlling it when you know you are right, especially when it's people who come for you that you got dirt on.

It's people that you know stuff about.

It's people that, you know, and you just sitting there like, yeah, keep, keep on, right?

Keep on.

I got this on this person.

I'm going to blast you.

I'm going to do whatever it is if you keep messing with me.

And then it becomes a never-ending battle.

But one of the things that I want to highlight that's important right again, I am a private person when it comes to my relationship with the Creator, with God.

I am a private person when it comes to prayer.

I am a private person when it comes to my faith overall.

That's why I receive.

the things that I receive because I understand that that relationship has to be intimate.

But one of the things that I do want to stress in all seriousness, I've learned throughout the years that and this has made it easier also for me to give grace to people.

But I've learned throughout the years that a lot of people who behave a certain way, the people that are sent to disrupt your peace or trying to knock you out of your spot.

They have spirits inside of them that they aren't even aware of.

And I mentioned it before break, our last break.

Once that interaction happens and they get out of you, whatever it was that they were looking to get out of you, whatever response is going to flee and jump into somebody else.

And if you fall for that, it might double back.

Tell me I'm lying you ever woke up your child and do something and then next thing you know They become disrespectful not calling you out your name, but they just don't want to listen right and then you feed into it I'm gonna whoop your butt.

It's seven o'clock in the morning Who you talking to don't smack your lips don't close your door.

I'm gonna whoop your butt and This the day that they decide out of all days This is so you got you wake up to that email from work.

That's straight number one

Then you tell your kids why is you down here?

I'm eating peanut butter and jelly and which is school uniform on we got to be We got to be out the door.

You don't got jelly all over your outfit.

Why was hungry?

Who you talking man?

All right, cool Now you off the Richter now.

I'm a I'm a whoop your butt I'm a whoop your butt for spilling that jelly on you.

That's strike number two Then you get to work and now you got to double back and remember that email that was sent that you didn't respond to

on top of whatever you're going through with your child on the way after you dropped them off to school, now you at work.

And now that spirit has fled and jumped into somebody else.

Now you got to deal with the spirit of whoever it was that sent that email.

Then that's done.

Then you leave work.

Somebody didn't cut you off down the street.

It keeps jumping because you are vulnerable to it.

It keeps jumping because you are not protecting yourself.

It keeps jumping because you are giving in and you are okay with people tricking you out of your spot.

There are just simply things that you have to walk away from.

A random person online calls you ugly, block them.

Somebody drunk in a bar want to prove something, go home.

Yo ex text you what you doing at a 114 in the morning after six months of peace We don't even know how to spell anymore you just put yw wyd If you don't get your black tail off my phone talk muscle Wyd I got to pay these bills.

That's what I got to do

I gotta pay these bills, brother, is you gonna pay my bills or text me what you're doing all night, right?

No, what you doing, me?

Listen, don't text me a W-I-D.

I promise, I cannot

stand it.

What do you mean

by that?

I cannot stand it.

I don't like for men to do that because that means that I know what's on your mind and you not on nothing.

What you doing?

What you doing?

What is you doing?

What you over there doing, right?

But there are situations where walking away isn't necessarily wisdom somebody repeatedly harassing you at work.

You may need documentation, right?

Obviously there are situations where you have to respond So again, I'm not saying that you have to be passive.

I'm not saying that you have to allow people to treat you a certain way I'm simply just saying that we have to do a better job of not feeding into whatever is sent our way to destroy us and this isn't just at

A simple level where somebody you know online or somebody that's around you 24 seven.

It's the little things throughout the day It's the little situations that happen throughout the day, right?

Think stop and think first Stop and think about how much you have built how much work you have put into everything that you have, right?

Only for somebody to come along and press a button.

Matter of fact, if you still hanging around somebody that can't press a button or know which button to press, then you the problem.

You are the problem.

People can tell me all the time.

I don't care.

Jazz act funny now.

Jazz 38 with two adult children and a nine year old.

She's a teacher and a radio host.

Baby, I got too much to lose.

I can't be around certain people certain conversations in certain establishments family friends associates Relationship whoever it doesn't matter I Can't afford to because there may be that one person that see me and my success just make them feel away And that's going to be the day that they want to attempt to test me No, I avoid all foolishness

If that makes me boring, if that makes me whatever, I'll be that, but I'm safe, but I'm alive, but I got, you know, I got it going on for myself.

I'm doing good for myself because I've allowed people to trick me out of my spot so many times that I made a vow to myself when I was younger.

I would never do that again.

I would never do that again.

We got to go to break to pay some bills that you grow, Jazz Tyler, do not touch that doubt when I want to step in the truth.

We are

talking about not allowing someone to trick you out of your spot, right?

Now let's make this a little harder because when is someone we don't know?

It's a little bit easier, right?

On top of social media always Telling us that we need to cut people off, right?

So they shows you who you are cut them off protect your peace cut them off, right?

If we followed everything that social media says we will be by ourselves miserable, right?

Everybody cannot dispose of every every time there's a conflict you cannot dispose somebody You cannot do that, but there is a difference between conflict and weaponization

Family knows where the bodies are buried emotionally.

Your sister knows that you were insecure, what you were insecure about when you were 16.

Your mama knows exactly how to make you feel like a 12 year old girl again just by calling you a little girl.

Your partner knows what you confided in them.

Your best friend knows what you are afraid of.

And that information creates intimacy.

But in unhealthy conflict, intimacy can be ammunition, right?

Now the thing I told you was because I trusted you becomes the things you throw at me when you become angry, right?

When somebody loves you but repeatedly weaponizes what they know about you during conflict, is that relationship emotionally safe?

Absolutely not.

So just because it's someone that you know, I'm sorry that you don't know No, just because it's someone you know does not mean that they cannot trick you out of your spot We all have family members who are jealous who feel the way You know who have things that they got going on inside of them that no one knows about We have you know relatives because family and relatives are two different things and then unfortunately

You know, there's a little bit more compassion for people like that.

You can't just cut... Well, I'm not gonna say you can't just cut your family off, because I can't.

I can't cut anybody off.

And sleep like a baby.

I promise I can.

Won't feel nothing about it.

I see them out and about, hey, how you doing?

And go right back on in my bed like they never existed, right?

Not saying that it's healthy, but hey, it works for me.

But you can't cut everybody off.

Especially not everybody in your family.

You have to have somebody so The not allowing people to trick you out of your spot is not just talking about something on a large scale, right?

It can be the secret competition that one of your siblings have with you, right?

It could be the gossip that your cousin is spreading about you and when she see you you already know What the business is but ultimately you get to decide which way it is going to go

you get to make the choice in the decision on how you choose to respond.

And at some point we have to start thinking about the things that we are working towards, right?

Especially our children and our legacy.

It's too much for me to allow someone to trick me out of my spot.

I think this is also why a lot of people have

Defense mechanisms as well while a lot of people choose not to be vulnerable.

I know a lot of men who You know been to prison for quite some times and in time and they are afraid to be in committed relationships because of this reason Is she gonna do something that's gonna make me go back to jail?

Because if she say something or do something that go or she play with me in any kind of way

Right or I can't go kick it with dude.

I can't go out to the club with him because When he get drunk, he don't know how to handle his liquor and then when I put these pals on him He gonna call the police and I'm gonna go back to jail There are many scenarios Of people tricking people out of their spots.

You just have to to pay attention to it, right?

You got to pay attention to it.

You have to be like you gotta you got to use your discernment

Every battle is not worth fighting every battle is not worth fighting so I want to leave that right there and Kind of move on to the next which is the the mirror check right?

That means you have to that simple is simple self accountability Self accountability right the more real you are with yourself

the easier it becomes to deal with things sent to destroy your peace.

Sometimes the things sent to destroy your peace ain't even nobody but your damn kids.

I'm trying to tell you.

Sometimes that peace that's coming that's meant to be destroyed is them kids.

Well, I promise you and the older they get the worse it get because they are their own human beings They are their own selves them own selves.

I Deal with it all the time with my children Like bruh you really is like the habitual line stepper when it comes to my peas

When it comes to trying to trick me out my spot because you want me to give in to whatever it is that you're trying to do sometimes it be your own children But at the end of the day the moral of the lesson is the more the story is Don't let nobody trick you out your spot, you know, I heard that phrase long before I understood it Now I think I understand it to its entirety, right?

It doesn't mean you can't get angry.

It doesn't mean that you can never confront

someone.

It doesn't mean that you have to tolerate disrespect.

It doesn't mean stay in environments that are hurting you, right?

It means something much harder.

Don't surround or surrender something valuable.

Don't surround yourself or surrender something valuable for temporary satisfaction of a reaction.

Don't surrender your career because somebody offended your ego.

Don't surrender your freedom because somebody challenged your pride.

Don't surrender a healthy relationship because somebody outside of it successfully created insecurity inside of you Don't surrender your peace trying to force somebody to admit what they already know Don't surrender your character trying to expose Everybody else and don't surrender your future to prove something in the present Sometimes people don't have

enough power to destroy you.

They is is what do you call it?

It's the same thing the enemy does that they talk about in the scriptures, right?

It's deceit.

They come as if they do, but they don't.

Sometimes people don't have the power, right?

They don't have the power to destroy you.

They need your help to do it.

That is the the rule of the game Sometimes there is no them sometimes my flesh is trying to trick me out of my own spot My impatience my ego my need for validation my fear of rejection my desire my anger my trauma my need to be Understood sometimes the battle is isn't me versus somebody else sometimes the battle is

Today versus a version of myself whose responses once protected me, but don't belong where I am going and Maybe that's what the position really means.

Maybe position isn't simply where you said is who you are while you are sitting there Anybody can have a title Can go character carry that title anybody can receive an opportunity

Are you disciplined enough to sustain it?

Anybody can fall in love, but can you emotionally handle it?

Are you mature enough to protect it?

Anybody can say they have faith.

Can that faith survive all of the attacks that sent to destroy you?

That is the work.

And one thing pastor would not Apostle Rodante said today, whatever particular answer stood out to you during the interview, right?

I want you to hold on to that.

But for me, the thing that that stood out the most is the discernment.

You have to understand your discernment.

And those who are tapped in know exactly what I mean.

I'm not talking about just a small feeling.

I'm talking about those downloads that you get that could save your life.

For whatever reason, you're driving down the middle of the street and you say, hey, and your mind is saying, no, I don't take this route today.

Take this route.

It ain't come up for no reason.

It was a specific reason.

That's the sermon.

I know a lot of times some things can come off appearing.

to be from God, but it can be deceit.

Deceit is very deceitful.

You have to use your discernment to understand the difference between the true, the two.

So as we do this work within ourselves, again, nobody is perfect.

I'm not perfect.

That's why I have these conversations with you all because, you know, it's a struggle out here.

Life is real.

The things we are dealing with is real, and there's so much to talk about.

There's politics, there's, you know, bills, data centers, so on and so on.

But we are human beings dealing with real life on a daily basis, that everyone seems to be okay with being distracted by worldly things.

There's so much to be distracted from.

So much to the point that when you wake up in the morning, the first thing you do is grab your phone.

Social media or you watching a news or you're listening to the radio you got to go to work You talking to people somebody calling your phone you talking to people when you get home You got to make sure you talking to your kids helping them with homework so on and so on then you may sit down and watch TV or read a book When do you ever find time?

To practice the things that we are talking about right whether that be you know not watching

TV and just listening to whatever motivational speeches or sermons that you listen to The goal is To practice what we preach Right we cannot be someone who wants to be successful, but we still walking around here talking about we gonna flip stuff over I'm talking to myself too because I absolutely would flip everything over if you push a certain button

And that's not me bragging.

That is me being authentic.

That's why I had pastor Rodate on here today, because I know a lot of people like me.

Oh, I am a gentle soul.

I am a kind woman.

I am a woman of God.

I am a woman who is strong.

I am a woman who stands on business, but I am also a woman who do not play.

I am a woman who have been through many things in my life to where people mistake my kindness for weakness.

And there was a point in time where you could push certain buttons, but not today.

Not today.

I learned the trick, right?

Can't do it today.

You're not going to trick me out of my spot.

We got to go to break.

Pay these last bills.

We ain't talking about we energies neither.

Because that bill is about the skyrocket.

It's your girl Jazz Tyler.

Do not touch that dial when I want to tell you the truth.

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We are live and direct.

Listen, we had an amazing, amazing show today.

Shout out to pastor, I'm sorry, a postal for Dante Ashford for stopping through.

He is also the father of wave Chappelle, one of the dopest hip hop artists that we have in the city of Milwaukee.

We had a real conversation about music, about not allowing people to

trick you out of your spot all of the above I want to take the the remainder of this show to just kind of highlight a couple of things There's a lot happening around the city a lot of people who are dealing with death You know, they're grieving they're dealing with whatever it is the everyday life, right?

And there's been an amazing amount of resources in community events.

So today

Well, actually, it's about the end, but today was the day of reconciliation.

This Friday, we are doing the unity walk.

And when I say we, I don't mean 101.7 the truth.

I mean, we the people, the community.

Shout out to brother Aziz and brother David Muhammad.

The unity walk, right?

With Golden Child, who is from Chicago.

So Golden Child will be in Milwaukee and he is bringing a lot of people from Chicago.

Um, and this is probably going to be the first time that Chicago and Milwaukee actually unite.

Uh, we will be by the Moody, uh, Park, 2200 West, Burlai.

I'm trying to get at least 500 people there.

to, uh, you know, congregate, walk and push the narrative of peace and unity, not in a fashion where it seems orchestrated or it seems, you know, unnatural.

But this is, this is us really, really, really taking it back to obviously the zip code that they say is the poor zip code in the entire nation, which is the zip code.

I'm from baby at five three two oh six.

That's right.

And then on a Sunday, September six.

It's the family reunion at the Mohammed mocks number three I'm 925 West Burla Street again shout out to brother William Muhammad David Muhammad shout out to brother Duncan to man.

He be getting me right with the bean pies man in the fruit bags So please pull up this weekend Friday and Saturday.

I'm sorry Friday and Sunday if you are able to to be a part of these amazing events

Von and myself, we just finalized our lock-in program.

The last one was last Friday.

Again, shout out to my brother, Von Mays, and the amazing things he is doing as well.

He obtained a building on Third and Center.

I am working in partnership with him to get this building up and running.

So we'll have some trades, you know, beauty and cosmetology, civics.

robotics, um, mute entertainment, carpentry, uh, trying to do free karate classes.

And this is all for the youth at no expense.

So what we're trying to do is set up the youth, uh, with things that they take interest to and pass them off to a program that can assist them with the educational part, you know, once they become of age to go to school.

Um, and simply it's just about, you know, providing things for the people, right?

Providing things for the community.

So.

If you have any resources, if you want to donate, hit bond up or hit me up, please.

We need barber chairs.

We need beauty salon chairs.

We need instructors.

We need resources.

We need karate outfits.

We need, you know.

Studio equipment and again, we don't have funding for this.

This is all coming out of our pockets, right?

This is stuff that we are doing on our own So again, I don't care if you came by nothing if you know how to paint bring bring it down We need all the help that we can get We are truly truly trying to invest back into the city and again It's going to take all of us also got to send a huge shout out to my good sister Kawanda

And again, my condolences on the loss of Bub, her brother, whom I knew as well, who was near and dear to my heart.

And I won't, probably won't make it to the funeral this week.

I know Brother Amir is going down there, but I love y'all, Kawanda.

I'm always praying for y'all.

And I send my condolences.

And Milwaukee, can we have a safe week this week, please?

The reason why I said it, because we know it's hot and every time it gets hot like this, Negroes get irritated.

All right.

We know that we know this weather.

Black people, we know this, that weather, that you got to go back in the house and take another shower.

This, that weather, that if you look at me wrong, I'm going to say something.

This, that weather, don't sit near me.

I don't want to cuddle, touch, do nothing.

Just leave me alone.

It's too hot.

If you are one of those people, please stay in the house Please stay in the house.

We know how irritating this can be We and I understand trust me.

I do our promise.

I was irritated just walking I want nobody wouldn't even bother me.

I was just like Like this this right here just don't make no sense, but it all seriousness.

Let's have a safe week, please They did announce obviously that

MPS is out tomorrow Some of the charter schools decided that they're not going to close which I don't know it makes sense because people have to get transported to and from school and Some of these children is they if I was the parents I wouldn't allow them to stand on the bus stops and in that weather right it is hot so

Again, find something for your babies to do during this time.

Make sure they're not out here running around doing stuff they ain't got no business doing.

Because again, we don't know if it's going to happen the day after either due to it's supposed to be, I guess, in the 90s for the rest of the week.

Before we get out of here again, just want to spend this time sending my love.

to Satchua Shakur, the sister of Tupac Shakur, the entire Shakur family.

She's like a sister to me.

She is a sister to me.

And I am, you know, I'm happy that the verdict was the verdict, but at the same time is not true justice.

We already know that, you know, we have a feeling more than one person is involved so on and so on, but

You know, it's not easy carrying on someone's legacy that is no longer here.

It's not an easy thing to do because there are so many people and entities sent to attempt to destroy it primarily because it will.

This legacy in particular will raise up the masses of the people, right?

And create thought provoking conversations to make people actually think.

And anytime we are in a position or situation where we are forced to make black people think, black people wake up, black people rise, and that has always been a problem in this country.

So I say all of that to say, you know, if you are one of those people who has been following the murder trial, if you are one of those people who has been following the career of Tupac or his legacy in general, be a part of it.

Right, get involved.

We're still doing the work.

We're doing prison reform, the youth detention facilities, man prisons.

Shout out to Mr. Verley Ward in Lawrenceville Correctional Facility.

We do a lot of work with him and his piece curriculum over there.

We do a lot around mental health, a lot around the arts.

In case you didn't know, the foundation and the family does not own Tupac State.

So please don't think that the board or anybody is just over here balling out of control.

That is not the case.

They do not own the estate.

They are actually in court right now and trying to fight to get his estate back.

So when I say we need the people, we need the people.

We truly do do to help us do this work.

That's my time for today, Milwaukee.

I truly, truly thank you all so much.

Please.

Holla at me tomorrow.

Monday through Friday, 4 p.m.

to 7 p.m.

Again, shout out to Pastor Rodonte Ashford.

Friday, we got a special guest joining us by Zoom, Eric.

Right, that is the sun and first born of EZE.

We're going to have a great, amazing conversation.

Listen, have a safe evening and stay cool.

We should grow jazz.

Peace.

Okay, I can't stop now.

Won't stop.

Last time I checked.

I'm 10 toes down.

Run it up.

It didn't vest.

I'm looking in the mirror.

Really him beating on my chest.

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I have a very, very, very special guest in the building, but I'm not going to do just a small minute introduction.

I got to do the big introduction.

All right.

We are talking about Apostle Rodente L. Ashford, who is a pastor, a preacher, teacher, entrepreneur, community leader, and visionary, committed to faith, family, leadership, and community transformation.

He is the senior servant and founder of the Infinite Church in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where he provides spiritual leadership with a passion for preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, developing disciples, equipping leaders, strengthening families,

helping people fulfill their God-given purpose.

Thank you for tapping in with me today.

Oh,

man, I'm excited.

I was like, hey, I'm sitting there listening like, man, that's me.

I am excited.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me on today.

I'm super excited and just honored and privileged to be here.

Yes.

Been around a long time.

I know it.

I know it.

I was talking to my students about you last week and a couple of days this week.

First and foremost,

I do want to announce that I am officially a member of the Infinite Church.

Oh,

man.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

You know, it was a great service this past Sunday.

I've been at school inviting my students and everything, but super, super grateful for you and your wife, Dr. Erica, and all the work that you guys do.

You know, and this means so much.

because of the kind of person you are in the integrity in which you hold.

I mean, even if you don't mind me shifting, even in the music when you were doing music.

And you know what I mean?

So, you know, to see people genuinely, you know, transition and still following

the flow as they say, you know what I

mean?

Still following the flow, but on a higher level and on a greater level.

That really, really means more to me than anything.

Well, you are.

I got to thank you for that because so I was talking to my youth about you because I was explaining the history of Milwaukee music and who was a part of creating the Milwaukee music, the sound, you know, all of that.

And you are a prominent figure.

We were just talking last week about the situation with the garage and how a lot of people disagreed and don't go there if they won't play the Milwaukee rap music, but it's like you have no idea who put in work so that we could have an industry

here.

And thank you for even acknowledging that because I'm really from that class, that grade, not by myself.

but truly was a part of the pioneers that helped bring this about in Milwaukee, on the Milwaukee scene.

There was no scene.

There was no

hip hop scene.

And I mean, I go all the way back to B-Boy Days with Dr. B,

you

know what I mean?

But there was no scene and we were cultivating and creating it.

There was no groups performing at a summer fest or African World Festival or being given a chance.

So just being part of that fresh wind, but to see

the way that you guys took that baton and pressed it so forward.

whether it's, you know, my son, Wave Chappelle, or whether it's, you know, you Jazz, or whether it's, you know, Ray Nitty, all the way to Big Frank, to Steve D'Astoner, you know, to watching what these guys are doing.

Little chicken, you know, chicken pee,

as they say, right?

You know, watching what these guys are doing, I'm like an awe, and I'm such a fan of it.

It's absolutely amazing.

And, you know, God bless his soul, my best friend, OG Tweezy.

You know, if he was here, we talked about

this

so much.

because we put in so much work when there was no social media.

There were no pictures.

We come from the class where

if you were

taking pictures, you were like the police

or

something.

So it's like to really come from that era and to see what it's developed into now.

You know, man, there's so many artists that I absolutely love all the way.

Me and Biko was talking about Prof the other day.

I love Prof.

Prof so.

And, you know, all the way to Big Frank.

Big Frank is like so dope.

He is like

amazing.

You know, Steve the Stoner, he is dope.

Like when, you know, forget

all the

dances, the dude got good music.

You

know what I mean?

And so I'm a huge fan of the scene.

So.

And when I watched the garage situation, you know, I didn't say anything about it because my son was representing

and

he was speaking up about it and others were speaking up about it and giving their opinions or whatever.

But you guys have a right to fight for those things because it wasn't handed to you easily.

It was

cultivated, it was created, it was curated.

And I'm grateful to watch the way you guys are stewarding it and making sure that it's respected on every level.

Yes.

Thank you so much for that.

because we haven't had the opportunity to have a conversation with what the young people consider you as the OG, right?

Or to go home

and

about this.

And I simply was just trying to express the importance of the scene, period, right?

They are actually making money off of this.

They are living, right?

So to disrespect the entire hip hop scene, but not to mention everybody don't even wrap the same.

It

came boxes all together.

But to disrespect the culture period,

you

know, and and those are, you know, they have, you know, if you don't want to play.

Now, I'm on the flip side.

I

do understand that that there is some messaging that does not fit certain venues.

Absolutely.

You know

what I mean?

There's some messaging and I do get that part.

But don't you can't wipe.

the whole thing.

That's not proper.

You know what I mean?

That's not proper.

But I do agree that there's some messaging.

And that kind of also...

pushes the envelope back to in the hands of this group, because we had to be creative.

And if we could be lended, if we could be voices to lended ears, you know, these are this new group of artistry, you know, go back and be creative, man, make, you know, make two versions of the song, make the one that's for the streets, but also make the one that's still for the radio and for the club and things of that nature.

So I think it's an interesting dialogue, but I love

You know, OG, you either are OG or you just old.

Yep, come on now.

You know what I mean?

For real.

And just because you old and wear Jays, that don't make you an OG.

Come on.

You

know what I mean?

Are you really, really, really able to help

the

current generation see their way and back up?

in confidence and let them handle

it.

You understand what I'm saying?

And so that's why I take pride in considering myself as one of the OGs.

Not because I'm older, I just turned 52, but because I know how to speak, I have private conversations with Steve, and I have private conversations with Wave, and then I back up out the

way.

Let y'all handle it.

Whatever your play is, you call it.

It's your play.

You

know what I mean?

So I just take pride in that part of...

the game, you know what I mean?

Something you said was interesting to me, and that is providing an option for them to do both a clean version and a street version.

And I realized when you said that a lot of the artists now don't make radio edited versions because the radio stations don't support local artists in the city of Milwaukee.

Right, and that's because, but can I just say something?

Absolutely.

Honestly, because we are on radio.

One of the things that I learned and later in my career, which was very helpful

uh, to like wave and others was that, uh, I was in the streets and we were cultivating this industry.

And then I went down south for many years and I worked with a hundred promotions and set in the pace and Lester pace and all of these huge radio guys.

And I learned how radio actually

works.

So radio doesn't work the way that most artists perceive it to work.

And that's where you got to learn the music business.

When you learn the business, you learn how radio actually worked.

It's not, it works.

It's not that.

radio won't play the artist.

Artists here don't necessarily have the tools or the know-how of how to actually break a song

or

how to act, what it actually takes.

They think, oh, just because I know the DJ, that the DJ got power, the DJ don't got no power over

that

playlist.

You know what I

mean?

So

it's like, you got to learn how to actually work a record and things of that nature.

Once these artists grab hold of that and understand that radio was still important,

even in

the middle

of, right, even in the midst of the technological age, the TikTok, the, you know, the Instagram, the hits, the

clicks.

But when they realized that radio was still important, once our Milwaukee artists mastered that part, which I got a lot of game on

this, but

once they master this part, I'm gonna be out of here.

I'm

talking about Grammys, I'm talking about, I'm talking about in the game.

There's two music

industries.

There's a,

actual music industry, right?

And then there's this false music

industry,

right?

If you want to be in the actual music industry, you had to learn the game.

And that's why you see a lot of down soft artists break.

I was with Dof before Dof

broke.

You know what I mean?

I was, I was, you know, there when two chains re-vamped his career.

And I was there.

I was in the room.

And so what I'm saying is, it's like, you know, I worked with Yo Gotti.

I worked with CMG.

I worked records to radio.

I know what this thing actually is to be actually in the building where the deals are actually signed.

Right?

So when you don't, you know,

You know what our young artists they they need to be able to be creative and for Forth thinking and sometimes they don't want to hear it

and

that's cool But once they grab once Milwaukee grabs a whole and it's getting better getting better production wise getting better song wise getting better with the way that they Put out music and social media sphere,

but

once they learn this radio game

It's gonna be

over with.

They're gonna take over.

They're gonna take over.

Anywhere you put somebody from Milwaukee, think about this.

Think about your travels.

Think about your travels, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's Dallas, whether it's Houston, whether it's LA, whether it's New York.

When you see somebody from Milwaukee,

they

be

on.

You know why?

Because our slow speed is the world's fast

speed.

You understand?

We come from

We come from the worst of the worst and the most aggressive.

We're the most aggressive.

When I moved down south, I ain't trying to over talk here.

When I moved down south, I was shocked that people spoke to each other.

You know what I'm saying?

I was like,

what you mean, what's

up?

I

don't know you.

You say, what's up?

Like, what's up?

You know what I mean?

So it was like, you know, I was shocked that people spoke to each other.

So our slow speed is the world's fast speed.

So that's why when people typically move out of Milwaukee and I'm not

campaigner for everybody to move.

But typically when you see people outside of Milwaukee,

they're doing well.

Absolutely.

They're doing well.

I'm a witness to that, too.

We got Apostle Rodante Ashford with us today.

We got to go to break to pay some bills.

Do not touch that dial.

It should girl jazz Tyler one on one, seven the truth.

I

am sitting here with I can say my pastor now But a posture where don't say Ashford

You guys may know him as being a pastor right now, but he has put in a lot of work in this city.

He has been around for quite some time.

Prior to you coming, I was talking about the two-pot verdict.

Do you remember when Pot came to Milwaukee at the Mecca?

I was

there, met him twice,

met

two-pot two times.

I was there, I was there not only when Pot came to Milwaukee.

When Pot came to Milwaukee the first time, he didn't even have Thug Life tattooed on his belly.

You

know what I'm saying?

That was at the rave.

The second time,

and Homer Blower attested this.

The second time is when there was the melee.

I was there.

I was right there in the midst of that when Paka literally ran across the street to the Hyatt, MC8.

This is real.

This is

how much in the mix I

was.

The city had jumped MC8.

MC8 actually talks about this.

And me and Big Hank, the producer of In My Projects, we were the people who stood between

Everybody and MC8.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now that's real.

You know what?

Cuz I'm laughing because I can hear Tony boys in my head.

Me and Tony been going back and forth.

Well, we was on a phone for about two hours talking about this

a

couple years ago.

But one of the things that stood out the most to me was yes, it was a lot of mayhem.

Yes, it was a lot of people a miscommunication, but

that man stood for something in every room he was in.

Well, he was

standing for something at that moment.

Right.

That was about something.

About yummy.

Yeah, it was about yummy, so

that was

about something.

And that's what I'm saying, like, I remember, you know, the faces I remember in the room, and we all from this culture, so I remember Reggie Brown was there.

I remember Hummerblow was there.

Like,

we were...

there.

They

remember me there.

You know what

I mean?

If you ask them, so these are valid stories, right?

Like, no cap.

Now, people

say Fat Jopie cap

it.

We

were in

the room when this happened.

And

we didn't realize at that moment when it was taking place that we record.

This is historic, right?

Because this is a, this is a conversation.

It ain't just about the melee, but it's this is something that has been discussed around the world.

And this was at the emergence of Tupac at the.

at the crescendo of everything he was.

This is like when he began to

really- This is pre-outlaws.

This is thug

life.

This is thug

life.

Right.

This is thug life.

And this is when it all emerged.

After that, it was on and popping.

You know, of course, we know, you know, you know, the most influential artists, period.

You know, the movies, the music, the impact, like, Tupac's music was different because we didn't just listen to it, we felt it,

you

know?

He made us, he made us feel, you know, whether it was anger, whether it was, uh, excitement

or

whether it was straight up tears.

Like we

cried.

We were within the hood, like literally with tears in our

eyes.

Like

he moved us

in a

different kind of way and nobody ever moved the needle like that.

We love the rhymes of everybody else.

We love the

entertainment of everybody else, but that was the soul

of

the streets and we felt him.

I

call him the preacher of the industry.

Yeah, yeah, we felt him.

We felt him.

His what is your thoughts on on this case?

Again, you know, we was kind of having an off air conversation about the fact that 30 years later there has been so much speculation surrounding who was involved or what happened so much to the point that it kind of overshadowed.