Through The Storm

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Through The Storm

Tap-In with Jazz Tyler · Wed Aug 19, 2026

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If you are just now joining us, we are talking about the situation with the lady from the courthouse.

She worked at the courthouse for 30 years.

And to me, it sound like somebody snitched on her, told owner, ran up in her crib, arrested her, her son and her husband due to drugs being found.

Now, I don't know if it was her husband's, her son's, if it was hers, I don't know.

I don't know her.

I don't know her marriage.

I'm just going based off of this situation.

And it caused me to think about some things.

Accountability when it comes to women who have certain professions, right?

Certain professional women are addicted to dealing with guys who are still involved in illegal activities, right?

And if you are just now joining us, I was talking about, hey.

I don't care how you get it, meaning me personally right now.

Not in a relationship, but just right now.

I can't tell someone how to feed their family, but most importantly, I understand how hard it is for a black man based off the oppression, based off things we've been through.

I understand how hard it is for a black woman, but at some point we have to stop with this ride or die mentality thinking that, oh, okay, cool.

My girl, I'ma just pay for her tuition, for her to go to school.

And then once she graduate, you know, I'm gonna still do what I do.

And yeah, he gonna pay for my tuition.

I'm gonna go to school.

And you know, we gonna go to Dubai and have a vacation.

And he gonna buy me these bags and this house and so on and so on.

And then when it all comes down to it, and something happens, right?

Because you letting him bring the stuff in your house.

Or you letting him...

have certain individuals who he may be involved with that may snitch on them that know where you stay at.

Either way, you have completely let your boundaries down.

So much to the point where everything that was potentially invested in your profession is going to go down the drain because when he goes down the drain, so will you.

And we have this mentality to some degree that, hey, that's okay, right?

I get it.

It's the typical love hood story.

My man gotta get it how he lived.

This is the reality is we are living in a day and age where there should be no more excuses.

And a lot of men like this are not doing it because they are in situations where they gotta get it how they live.

It's because A, they're afraid to go back broke and B, because they are addicted to the fast money and that lifestyle.

But where does that leave you?

That leave you in uncertainty.

Because you better believe that when a fast come knocking baby, you going down too.

You are going down too.

You crazy if you think that.

You're not going to be a part of that.

I don't care if you know something or not.

Because men like to say, I don't tell my girl nothing.

Because when they come, she can't tell them nothing.

That don't mean that they can't figure out a way to involve her.

Come on now.

Especially if she have kids.

Especially if she have kids.

And again, this is no judgment zone.

I'm not here to talk about how you get it.

Right?

The question is whether you are better.

The question isn't whether you are better than somebody is whether your lives are compatible enough that their current choices don't threaten your current responsibilities.

What is the purpose of saying I'm going to be in the streets and get me a good girl and invest in her to go to school and do all these things in these businesses only for your black tail crazy self tell to still stay in the streets.

And secondly, I don't know who taught, who had a hustle, but the fact that you got them where you sleep at, lets me know that you were fooled.

That's common sense, anybody know that?

I don't care if you white, black, Asian, whatever, you commit the crime, everybody, you don't get high off your own supply.

Why in the world would you have everything you got where you sleep at?

When your wife is there, your son, or if it's your mother, whoever it is.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Success changes your lifestyle, but it doesn't necessarily change your type.

And if you're just listening, yes, I am holding us accountable, ladies, because at the end of the day, we, especially if you come from the inner city, I don't

Yeah, he be buying me flowers.

He opened doors.

He takes me out, but it's just something about him.

I don't know.

He ain't hood enough.

He ain't street enough.

We confuse.

We confuse men like that for being weak and soft because they not out here in the streets.

And yes, I used to be like that when I was younger, not because I was attracted to danger.

But because it's something about a man that knows how to protect you without you telling him.

It's something about a man that went through something and you went through something and now it's called trauma bonding.

They have a name for it now.

Back then it was just, hey, I grew up like this.

You did too.

We have similarities.

We understand each other.

That's called trauma bonding.

Yes, some people were dealt a certain hand.

I get it.

I promise you I do.

So was I.

But at some point there has to be no excuses at some point if you love your man you gonna set them boundaries Hey, I love you and I know yo yo circumstances and what you've been through in life, but baby I'm a mother.

I'm a daughter.

I'm a sibling.

I have a professional career I can't be involved in that so this what I'm gonna do I'm gonna set these boundaries up while you get it together You need help starting the business.

I'll show you how to do it cool

I'll show you, you gotta go start a trucking company.

You wanna go work a nine and five to save your money up to start your business.

It's okay, I will hold it down.

Go ahead and get you that third shift job so you can save enough money to start your business so you can walk away from it all.

I'm not giving you advice to date people who are doing illegal activities.

I am being transparent and I'm talking to my people.

If it don't apply, let it fly.

Because this is a reality, especially in the city of Milwaukee.

Y'all are more addicted to making excuses because you're addicted to the life.

You're addicted to the fast cash, the trips, the money, all of tangible things that you can't even take with you.

So much to the point that you're willing to risk your freedom for your children.

All because you want to live this life and you like the excitement, you want to be able to say my man got money.

My man out here, he got money.

He got this kind of car, he got that kind of car.

He be doing this for me, he be taking me here.

My wig cost $400.

Okay, what's going, you going to be looking like he show off belly when they come and put you under the ussail.

Show Liz.

Y'all remember that mug shot?

That's what you gonna be looking like what you gonna look like when they take that lace front up off your head and you got the Cleo's going straight to the back and you own jail whatever Milwaukee County jail based

recently booked

recently booked looking a damn best Because you wanted that lifestyle, right?

Right shout out to the to the chat

Babar says, I just need you to be you.

I don't need you doing all that.

Jazz Tyler says, she got played.

Hello.

Right?

Right?

Babar said, he kisses my neck a certain way.

Blocked.

For real.

We got a caller on the line.

Brother Love, are you there?

Yes, I'm here.

How you doing, Jazz?

You doing your thing today?

Thank you.

Thank you so much for tapping in.

How are you?

Oh, I'm feeling marvelous.

I'm feeling marvelous.

I just want to say that you're doing such a wonderful job on these relationships.

And I just feel like sometimes you can't control who you get in a relationship with.

I just feel I just feel like

You know what, Jazz?

You know, you're doing such a good job.

I'm just going to let you cook.

And I'm just going to let you know, girl, you're doing a fabulous and amazing job.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you so much, Brother Love.

I truly appreciate that.

Thank you so much for listening and always tapping in with us.

Listen, I just want us to do better as a people, man.

I'm not here to judge nobody.

I come from the streets.

I was brought up in a certain environment.

I did not have an easy life.

Nothing was ever handed to me.

I had to get it how I live.

But guess what?

I didn't have breast cancer.

I didn't be assaulted as a child.

I didn't went through a divorce while I was going through breast cancer recovery.

I still don't make no excuse.

I got lupus.

I be tired, stressed, and sick.

I still don't make no excuses.

I'm for damn sure ain't about to give no Negro no excuse.

to put me in a situation that's gonna take me away from everything because of a lifestyle, or because he tell me he love me.

Man, you can miss me.

Them days is over with baby, I'm a grown woman.

If you don't have a health care plan, dental health benefits, all of that, don't even talk to me.

Okay?

You don't even have life insurance.

Don't talk to me.

Them days of just riding around because it's fun again.

I'm not telling somebody how what to do or how to do it I'm just saying be smart about it man I come up around an environment where I have seen situations like this But these men never put they women in situations like that You can say what you want you can make whatever excuse you want But at the end of the day you will fool a for having your drugs in the same place that you sleep And be being too comfortable

Now you don't put everybody at risk and when you put everybody at risk Who gonna pay for what if we both in jail?

Who's gonna take care of everybody?

Y'all know the D boy mamas the mama's gonna come first, baby Whatever money they got saved up.

You better believe it's going on.

Mama bills.

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Truth Nation, it's your girl, Jazz Tyler.

We got some callers on the line.

Mr. Wright, are you there?

The car is on 15th and right.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I'm here, Jazz.

How you doing, Jazz?

I'm doing good.

Thank you so much for tapping in.

How are you?

Good.

Good.

Thank you.

Um, um, just trying to take care of business right now here cutting grass.

Um, I just wanted to say, uh, uh, make them clap to this.

You know what I mean?

You, you give them the business today.

Um, you know, and I think where, where most people go wrong and they don't understand, you know, do you say they put that girl in the school?

That's, that's cool.

That's all great.

But my feet had the greatest sand and the greatest song I ever heard and it was make them clap to this.

You know what I mean?

It says.

take your drug money, make it to clean money, could clean money last longer than drug money, make them talk to this.

And they just don't understand if some people get in the game, yes, a fast life, but it ain't a long life.

Do you understand

me?

It's like hitting and quitting.

And most niggas, I'm sorry.

Most people don't understand that.

You know what I mean?

And so people don't know how to transfer from that life.

But it's just, I'm sorry, but yeah, you, you know, I just wanted to say, say that, but this

Yeah, I got me heated.

I'm out cutting grass.

It's OK, Mr. White,

you're speaking.

Thank you so much, and you are not lying.

I promise you are spitting hard core facts.

And again, it don't make sense.

It does not make sense to me.

We got another caller on the line.

Security Mike, are you there?

Yes, I'm here, Jazz.

Thank you so much for tapping in.

How are you?

OK, I'm all right.

I'm like that previous caller, Brother Little said you are.

You got it going on.

You get this topic.

Thank you.

Because it ain't gonna change.

It's been going on since the day of time.

A woman, beautiful woman, ugly woman don't matter.

They always want that hard guy.

Yes.

They always want that hard guy that fell off.

And with that comes consequences.

Yes.

Severe consequences.

That woman that threw away everything, lost everything.

You know, and one thing like you said,

She shouldn't have had it.

Whatever drugs it was, it shouldn't have been at that spot where they're laying their heads.

It should have been somewhere else.

That's the main point.

And girl, you're cooking because this topic is true and is going on right now.

I had a woman that chose a brother over me way back in the day.

He had a Cadillac.

I was on the bus.

I mean, I had a job and everything.

I've always kept that.

But she chose that guy years later when I saw her, she was she was dope out.

Yeah.

She she she was messed up.

But she chose that guy.

I mean, I was a street guy, too, but I wasn't hard like that.

I wasn't selling drugs.

And then I was a street guy that played ball, played ball and I worked a job.

Yes.

But I guess she liked to just got in this Cadillac and look what happened to her.

Yeah,

thank you so much.

I truly appreciate that shout out to brother love shout out to security Mike shout out to Mr. Right for calling in as well and shout out to the chat Babar says once that once they get you in that type of life is hard to back out easy he would have to bounce To a different state exactly it is and the only reason why I'm bringing it up is because Oftentimes you know

Oftentimes women who come from certain environments or who have a fear of being along or not being protected, they are attracted to men like this.

Again, I talked about it earlier.

A lot of these relationships are trauma bonds.

I'm talking from experience too.

When I was in my 20s, early 30s, yes, I will only talk to a certain type of man because he have to, listen,

I'm obviously, I don't know if you guys noticed, I am obviously not the precisest of them all, okay?

No, I'm not a uppity black woman who grew up in a suburban area with degrees and masters and so on and so on.

I am a woman who comes from 14th and Berlai, who grew up in a certain type of environment that took what the cars I was dealt and made the best out of it based off of what I knew.

There are also a lot of men out here like that as well So I get it But again, we always hold in the man accountable.

We're never holding a man can only do what you allow him a Man can only do what you allow him to do.

What do you mean jazz?

What I mean is if you allow him to stay stagnant Because you're accustomed to this lifestyle too, then you're both gonna go to jail or die

And again, I'm not telling you, you should talk to someone in illegal activities, I'm just saying.

If that is the case, you are just as guilty if you are not pushing that man towards greatness.

If you ain't saying, baby, listen, we need to stop.

Some of y'all are real life Tasha's off power out here.

Some of y'all are real life Tasha's and y'all are the problem, right?

Soon he wanna walk away.

No, you want that lifestyle so bad.

You want that attention so bad.

that you're willing to have your face plaster on the news because of it.

Set them boundaries up.

And this is how you're going to know if he is who he say he is.

Because if he is, he's going to get his stuff together.

He's going to listen.

There is no way in 2026 that some of your grown tell self are still using the excuse of you got to get it how you live.

I'm not saying that's everybody's situation to where, you know, some people just, hey, I get it.

But at the end of the day, a lot of y'all are just making excuses.

Y'all making excuses, and y'all glorifying something, and then you running while your children running around.

Okay, when I was in high school...

Did we have weave?

Yeah, we did up duels.

We did the French rolls and the finger waves and all of that.

But these girls are walking around with bust down, lace front, 16 to 20 to 30 inches long down their backs, piercings all over their face.

They talking to both girls and boys.

The young boys are around here doing what they're doing too.

Why?

Because they are mimicking this behavior.

They are mimicking this behavior They think that this behavior is normal It's not It's not We have to start setting examples You got to grow up mentally some of y'all grown is and y'all still out here don't come on man And I'm gonna be honest a lot of them do it because they slow Half of these men need to read with their finger

They don't know how the difference between I know in OW and N O They slow Call it how I'm a call a spade a spade or they know they slow, but they some mathematicians They know how to go get that bag They are scientists, baby.

They may not know how to read but they know all about that my nun

They're chemists, right?

But this is their only outlet.

They know nothing else.

That's why they say, yeah, go to school.

I'm going to pay for it.

But is you going to help me with my homework?

Are you going to help me with my homework?

Come on out.

I love y'all.

I do.

I love my sisters.

I love my brothers.

I am talking to the old jazz too.

I promise I am.

So I'm not coming down on y'all hard because I'm judging y'all.

I'm not a, I don't look like what I've been through.

I know women out here who feel the way towards me because they feel like I'm too rough around the edges with a girl.

You don't know what I've been through.

I still made it out and still made something for myself with no, with nobody giving me nothing and no excuses.

And at some point you have to live your life and elevate mentally the things I used to like.

I don't like no more.

I don't want that.

Why?

because going home to my children every night is more important.

Having my freedom is more important.

Ain't no P.P.

in the world.

Ain't no money in the world.

That's gonna make me want anything else.

I don't care about a Louis bag, a Birkin bag, I don't even wear none of that stuff.

I don't wear brands because of the history of it.

I don't wanna be branded.

If it's gonna be a brand, it's gonna be a black brand.

But some of y'all are simply being paid in events.

That's how I see it.

Y'all be some of y'all are being paid in events not to say nothing.

She gonna ride for me.

She gonna die for me.

She gonna hold it down.

I'm gonna buy this, buy that.

I know when that time come my baby got me.

You a coward.

Any man I know that was living that life ain't never put that woman in a position to lose everything.

Y'all some cowards period Y'all sloppy y'all greedy y'all did y'all make excuses your arrogant prideful vanity Gluttony everything You're doing it because you want to be able to say you want the Papa dough and Houston's and Cheddar's and post pictures and you look at me I got all his money you look like a fool

At your big grown age, you look like a fool.

Trying to compete with these young boys because your ego brews, right?

You better sit down somewhere and you better do everything you can to stay free because in a few years, some of your stuff ain't gonna work no more.

You're gonna have high blood pressure, all types of stuff.

And when you can't get out here and do what you do, who gonna take care of you?

Not your woman or your baby mama if she in jail.

Get it together get your life together It don't make no sense and it's a lot of people running around here like that and they go they gonna chew me out some people might hey guess what Who would I be if I did not?

Try and put you on the right track.

I love my people.

We are people of many different talents We are people that come from certain environments.

We are people who never had nothing We got to get it how we live, but at some point we got to stop making excuses and sus I'm not going to join that bandwagon Because of a lifestyle.

I'm a I'm okay

I'm okay with being who I am, living how I live.

If it means I can stay free, watch my daughter graduate college, watch my other children grow up, take care of my mom and my dad, I'm okay with that.

If that means that I need to go find me a man who got a health insurance, dental insurance, listen baby, again, if your job ain't gave you no benefits, I don't want you.

You ain't got life insurers.

I don't want you Cuz what you gonna do by your way out?

They ain't even taking cash no more pee It's a cashless society It's a cashless society what you come on man y'all y'all doing it backwards we got to go to break

When we come back, gonna have some more conversations.

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Listen, if you are just now tuning in, we are talking about professional women who are addicted to straight into men, dating men who are involved in illegal activities.

And prior to us going to break, I was holding a

accountable ladies.

Holding us accountable.

So I want to be clear.

I'm not here to judge.

I'm not here to tell anybody what to do, how to live.

But at the end of the day, we have to start making better choices.

Why?

Most importantly, so that we can stay alive and free.

But our babies are watching.

Our babies are paying attention.

Accountability is how we grow.

If this makes you uncomfortable, it should.

It means that you are doing something, you aren't doing something right.

Shout out to my sister Trina.

That's my best friend, my blood sister too.

Love you Trina.

But again, you have to hold yourself accountable.

So I'm not telling you to date a man that does illegal activity, I ain't telling you you shouldn't.

What I am telling you is that at some point you have to set boundaries because if that man don't know where he going baby, he's gonna drag you along the way, right along with him.

Can you imagine being with the man who do what he do?

You wake up the fast kick your door in because all the stuff that he got is is right there in the closet next to y'all Right and y'all trying to tell me that that means love that you are willing to put me in a situation to where my freedom could be taken away People out here making excuses talking about they got to get it how they live

Oh, you gonna get it how you live when you drop that soap, sir?

Take that, take that, take that.

If you don't get it together, you're gonna get it how you live right there in Green Bay.

Stop making excuses.

You are addicted to that fast life.

You are addicted to tangible items.

That's the real reason why you don't wanna stop doing what you're doing.

And you think that you're skating by because you put your girlfriend in college.

Not wife you put your girl in college Then your women go out and start businesses with these guys now you're wrapped up legally whether y'all are married or not But on a serious note I get it I want to end with this I get it.

I promise I do especially when you come from a certain environment

It's certain men, you don't have to tell what to do.

They just know they got something about them.

It's in them and not on them.

But baby, let me tell you, if that's your type, don't date the man that's in the street.

Date the man that used to be in the streets.

There is a difference.

There is a difference.

Again, there is no man, no love, no pee pee in this world that's going to make me miss out on waking up to my babies every day.

I don't care how good he look, and I'm not gonna lie.

When I was younger, yes, it used to be fun.

Do that make sense?

No, it was though, but key word, when I was younger, hello, I'm a grown woman.

Y'all be looking all good, coming with y'all money.

Y'all, yeah, I got money, yeah, but yo, come on, you got that rotten tooth in the back, cause you ain't got no dental insurance.

know what you got going on down there because you never go to the doctor, but you got a lot of money.

You got a whole lot of money, but you got high blood pressure because you ain't got no health insurance and you won't go to the doctor.

Can't see, ain't got vision insurance, don't got life insurance, so if something had passed away, you pass away, we got a raise of money.

And then again, we all know how a lot of our beloved

Brothers in the streets are when it comes to the mama Oh when he got a jail and you got a jail, baby It ain't gonna be no money on your books because mama need her mortgage paid Mama need some groceries Now I don't raise you your whole life and you gonna put that hustler over me You gonna put that harlot over me wear her pin.

They need I need this I need baby.

You ain't getting nothing His mama gonna get it first

I promise you.

Pay attention.

Wake up.

Wake up.

Who are you going to choose?

Yourself or that lifestyle?

I'm not judging you.

I'm not judging a man for those who are tuning in because I understand what our black man go through every day.

I understand how we got here.

This is hundreds of years of an agenda put into place to make it this way, which is the very reason why you need not to.

At some point, you gotta stop.

At some point, y'all have to stop glorifying this bull crap, man.

For real.

Ain't nothing cute about being in your late 30s, 40s, 50s with these tight ass pants on with rhinestones, with bottles in the club, talking about you having money.

Keeping a dope at your house where your baby mama live at and your baby got the pistol dope in the house with a baby deep Police don't know when to kick the dough in y'all scam and got all types of stuff going but oh he loved me He said we go get married.

Yeah, right at the courthouse, but not outside.

You're going to be in jail You're going to jail you are

Y'all got to get it together man for real Get it together stop dating the guys in the streets and get date the guys that used to be in the streets because if he's still in the streets Especially at a certain age, baby.

He ain't got it.

We know he a little slow We know we got to use his finger to read.

We know he don't know the difference between KNOW and NO.

We know I get it Yes, it is if you can't read it's a joke I want you to

Know how much I love you.

I. I'm just saying, but bar say, what does love have to do with it?

That's what they be telling them.

That's what I'm trying to tell you, but bar, that's what they be telling them.

I love you.

You a ride or die.

Yeah, you gonna die.

If you keep riding baby, I promise you I Just want us to change our mentality Because I'm not a rider die in my opinion riding for you means Making your lunch where you go to work aren't in your work clothes Making sure you straight when you come home making sure your credit is together making sure I support your mental health Making sure that you don't have people negative influences around you.

That's being your rider

Not me pulling up, helping you bust moves.

Baby, we grown.

We are grown.

And again, I'm not knocking your hustle.

But if you got the same hustle you didn't had from 1995, brother, you, something ain't right.

Something ain't right.

It ain't about who, I'm not, everything don't mean it's about me.

and who I've been dating, Babar, it's about the reality of I'm a black woman, so I can speak to it.

I know a lot of people like this, right?

They gravitate towards that lifestyle so much to the point where they become a grown woman, put up on her way to the fence because you're catering to this lifestyle.

We all hear hustling and getting it.

Yeah, y'all was doing the same thing since 1995.

Y'all still ain't got no business?

Something wrong.

Something is wrong.

So again, I understand when you come from a certain place, you got to get it how you live.

You got to feed your family.

But at some point you have to decide is your freedom, is that lifestyle more important than your freedom and the people around you?

When you bring that type of stuff into your home that your family sleep at, you put everybody at risk.

And guess what?

Nowadays, the police ain't going to call nobody to come pick them up.

They're going to call CPS.

They're going to call CPS.

So while y'all out here pushing, living this life, doing whatever, and they kick that dough, they're calling the CPS.

Yep.

And guess what?

You can thank all y'all because nobody wanted to grow up and say, uh, let me, let me do this so I can do this.

Like I said about the music, it used to be a time where the music came from the streets.

Now they run into the streets.

The music was made to get out the streets.

Now everybody's running to the streets.

And a lot of the people who are older are doing it because that's all they... Yeah, they don't want to be a you-soul.

Aw, man, I used to have it.

I used to have it going on back when I was having money.

It's okay to be a you-soul than to be a nobody and be deceased or locked away and you can't complete your legacy whatsoever.

Get it together.

We got to go to break.

Do not touch that dial.

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I have one of

my favorite people here.

She wasn't able to make it last week.

If you grew up in Milwaukee, you know she is the baddest of the baddest.

Ain't nobody gonna contest it.

We are talking about the one and only Sandra D. Hey, Sam.

Hey.

Thank you so much for stopping in today.

I truly appreciate it.

I'm also happy to see you.

Yes,

likewise.

I am so happy to see you.

I know Smalls passed away recently and it brought

Memory up of when we traveled to Atlanta.

Yeah, and I was pursuing my dreams and all of that stuff and I was just telling Homer and People I was close to Biko like I just want to get people flowers.

You know, I'm not worried about anybody else leaving anytime soon or nothing like that, but It's time.

Yeah,

it's time.

It is so time.

Thank you so much for tapping in with us Before you came on we were talking about something I'm sure you're familiar with because of your line of work, but

I want to tap into you, your history, the contributions that you've made to Milwaukee culture when it comes to beauty, fashion, all of that.

Who is Saundra Dee?

Well, Saundra Dee is an award-winning worldwide hairstylist.

Celebrity hairstylist.

Celebrity

hairstylist, yes.

Put that respect

on my

head.

Yep, so I've, you know, I've done so much throughout the time that I've been doing hair.

I started out when I was an itty bitty kid,

you

know, with just a wish.

And then I completely said, I spoke those words into existence when I was small and I didn't realize it.

A cousin of mine said, what do you want to be when you grow up?

I said, I want to be a celebrity stylist.

Now I'm 345.

Yes, saying these things, but that just goes to show you how powerful words are.

And when I tell you that is my life today.

Yes.

Like, you know, it's I've been through some hurdles.

I've been through a lot of learning lessons.

Yeah.

But I'm here today just to tell a few successful stories as well as, you know, things that I've kind of stumbled on in the past.

Yes.

Yes.

So take us back.

So when you first started in the 90s, what was the culture like?

How did you come up with some of the ideas you had when it came to hairstyles and things of that nature?

Because it is prominent in our history.

It's a part of our history and you contributed to it.

Man, let me tell you, Jazz, for one, now as me being as old as I am, I can completely say I'm ADHD when it comes to

the

hair gang.

You hear me?

It's like I get bored.

I'm

very artistic.

So

that's what kind of helped pave the way into my creativity.

Yes, it's like I can't stand to have a person getting the same exact thing as someone else.

I know that.

There can be a million people with the same style, but since their head shape or facial shape

is

different, it's gonna look totally different

on

that person.

So, you know, I just kinda switch lanes and switch gears when it comes to a specific hairstyle catered to that facial or that bone structure.

And I'm a witness.

I'm a witness.

I remember I was watching the BT Awards in like 2010.

And I seen Keisha Cole with this hairstyle, and I was like, said, I gotta have this for my mixtape release party.

But you did it your way.

You did it your way.

The all green, everything.

Like you just, to your point, that's what separates you two because a lot of people don't know what you just said.

They don't know how to shape it based off your face.

facial structure, all of that.

So back then, were you involved in putting on the hair shows?

Yes.

So what I did was when I first initially went to my first hair show, I was working with Corky.

He's the one that introduced me to the hair show.

I heard that name in a man.

Let me

tell you, I used man.

And so I'm going to kind of back it up, but I'm going to kind of fast forward at the same time.

So I was a school crossing guard,

right?

I was always playing and doing here when I was a kid.

But then by the time I turned 18, I'm like, OK, I think I can go ahead and do this for real as a profession.

I ended up just kind of practicing and practicing like my sisters and family members, friends.

I got kicked out of the house, my mom's basement

from doing a Jerry

curl.

Rest

in peace to your mom.

Yes, I know.

Thank you.

She was like, oh, had I known you were going to be as big as what you were, I would have

never

kicked you out the basement.

But fast forward, I ended up when I was I want to say 1990s when I was I was looking for a.

Well, let me back up.

I first initially got my own salon.

It's about 20.

OK,

it was a really like ghetto.

Yeah.

I bought it from a.

Yes, I was just starting off.

I bought this old, old fashioned furniture from this older lady because she was ready to get out of the game.

And she was in the game for a very long time.

She was doing like some cold finger dry,

dry

finger waves.

Oh

my God.

Yeah.

But

anyway, this guy I had met.

He was like, hey.

Um, he noticed my son's fate.

He was like, Hey, I bet you I'm colder than you.

I said, I bet you you're not.

Yeah.

So, you know, he said, okay, he took me to the shop, me and my, uh, me and of my sister and then another friend and we went and I showed him what I had.

He was like, Oh man, I'm gonna have to get you up in here.

Yeah.

So this is the older lady.

And so he said, well, tell her that you are going to be working on your license.

You're going to school.

Yeah.

So that's back then they were really strict

with people

working in the salon without a lot.

So I was like, okay, so I told her that.

And then the first day I worked, she was like, oh, you are really good.

And when did you say you gonna be graduating?

And I'm like, uh.

You're trying to find

something.

So

I ended up, you know, I didn't have a designated date, but that kind of catapulted me to going to Cosmetology School after, you know, I had this, I had already had the passion.

I had already had it in me.

So

by the time I went to school, it came out.

And so she's like ready to get rid of the Salon.

I'm like, OK, well, I'll buy it.

Guess how much I bought it for.

2000.

$5,000.

Oh, come on.

$5,000 for my first salon.

Yeah.

And again, it was mine.

It was raggedy.

Yeah.

But then the next thing you know, that's when I really didn't know anything about how it went.

I just thought, hey, I bought a salon.

Yeah.

So this one guy comes in and he's like, hey, I bought this shop.

I said, what?

I bought it.

What do you mean?

He was like, no, you bought the furniture.

I said, really?

I thought that all I was going to have to do was pay the rent

because I

kept asking her, OK, when is the time for me to pay the rent?

Because

she was

still working there.

And she was like, well, I'll let you know all of that girl.

This man and came in him and his wife and I had to take my little raggedy furniture

and go somewhere else and

move out.

So that was.

the start of a learning lesson.

Yes.

Right.

Yes.

So then I put it all in my garage and I started doing here out of my basement.

Come on now.

So once I started

the roller

set,

you

hear

me, the roller set.

And I was

doing finger waves.

Yes.

I was doing, well, let's see, roller sets, finger waves and like ponytails

and

different things like that.

So as I fast forward, as I started to get better,

And after I graduated, you know, I ended up initially starting to work with this with Corky.

Uh huh.

So when Corky met me, he was like, Oh my God, the world needs to see you.

You know,

I'm like, Oh, okay.

And.

At that time, I knew about hair shows, but I didn't know how to get in them.

So he's like, hey, I got this one guy, but it's in Detroit.

You have to go to Detroit and I'll call him and let him know that you'll go and represent for me.

I was like, OK, that sounds good.

So girl, we drove me and like four other models.

We drove down to Detroit.

We walked in there, just did some little catwalks, some

little

strolls, and they loved it.

And they're like, hey, in every sense.

and that's when

it started.

It's been up from there.

What are you?

So right now you are an instructor, right?

I am.

Okay.

Come on now.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

How do you love that?

I love it.

You know, it's very gratifying when I could see a student that wants to have what I had.

Yes.

And they take everything that I give them and they take it and they can start from not even knowing how to hold a comb properly.

It's crazy.

Yes.

But then when I see the progress, I'm like, come

on.

They got it.

That's what I love the most.

What advice do you have for young women and men who are in this generation?

that are interested in doing what you have done.

OK.

What I say is eat, sleep, and drink here.

If you

want to be great and set yourself aside, you know, eat, sleep, and drink it.

You

know,

as for anything else, you need to educate yourself as much as possible.

It's

not just about styling that hair.

It's about learning how to take care of that hair as well.

Yes.

Yes.

And building that confidence.

And

building that confidence, repetition.

Yes.

Is what's going to get you there.

Yes, indeed.

Thank you so much, Sam, for joining us.

We most definitely are going to have you back on here so we can have a full conversation because I know from having conversations with you that you are more than just here.

You are your people.

You are the community.

And you do a great job at utilizing here to build confidence.

Absolutely.

And people.

And people.

And I love you for that.

I love you

too.

While I'm giving them a word

and

another thing before we go, I always tell my students, give them

something what they don't have.

Don't come cussing all in their ear.

Speak some knowledge, give them some wisdom, and help them out

with their

confidence.

Yes,

be that therapist.

Be that

therapist,

because that's what we are.

That's right, that's right.

Thank you so much.

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On the lunch break, then the grapevine and double back with your girl, Jazz Tyler, at tap in Monday through Friday, 4 p.m.

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We love you.

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If you are just now joining us, we are talking about the situation with the lady from the courthouse.

She worked at the courthouse for 30 years.

And to me, it sound like somebody snitched on her, told owner, ran up in her crib, arrested her, her son and her husband due to drugs being found.

Now, I don't know if it was her husband's, her son's, if it was hers, I don't know.

I don't know her.

I don't know her marriage.

I'm just going based off of this situation.

And it caused me to think about some things.

Accountability when it comes to women who have certain professions, right?

Certain professional women are addicted to dealing with guys who are still involved in illegal activities, right?

And if you are just now joining us, I was talking about, hey.

I don't care how you get it, meaning me personally right now.

Not in a relationship, but just right now.

I can't tell someone how to feed their family, but most importantly, I understand how hard it is for a black man based off the oppression, based off things we've been through.

I understand how hard it is for a black woman, but at some point we have to stop with this ride or die mentality thinking that, oh, okay, cool.

My girl, I'ma just pay for her tuition, for her to go to school.

And then once she graduate, you know, I'm gonna still do what I do.

And yeah, he gonna pay for my tuition.

I'm gonna go to school.

And you know, we gonna go to Dubai and have a vacation.

And he gonna buy me these bags and this house and so on and so on.

And then when it all comes down to it, and something happens, right?

Because you letting him bring the stuff in your house.

Or you letting him...

have certain individuals who he may be involved with that may snitch on them that know where you stay at.

Either way, you have completely let your boundaries down.

So much to the point where everything that was potentially invested in your profession is going to go down the drain because when he goes down the drain, so will you.

And we have this mentality to some degree that, hey, that's okay, right?

I get it.

It's the typical love hood story.

My man gotta get it how he lived.

This is the reality is we are living in a day and age where there should be no more excuses.

And a lot of men like this are not doing it because they are in situations where they gotta get it how they live.

It's because A, they're afraid to go back broke and B, because they are addicted to the fast money and that lifestyle.

But where does that leave you?

That leave you in uncertainty.

Because you better believe that when a fast come knocking baby, you going down too.

You are going down too.

You crazy if you think that.

You're not going to be a part of that.

I don't care if you know something or not.

Because men like to say, I don't tell my girl nothing.

Because when they come, she can't tell them nothing.

That don't mean that they can't figure out a way to involve her.

Come on now.

Especially if she have kids.

Especially if she have kids.

And again, this is no judgment zone.

I'm not here to talk about how you get it.

Right?

The question is whether you are better.

The question isn't whether you are better than somebody is whether your lives are compatible enough that their current choices don't threaten your current responsibilities.

What is the purpose of saying I'm going to be in the streets and get me a good girl and invest in her to go to school and do all these things in these businesses only for your black tail crazy self tell to still stay in the streets.

And secondly, I don't know who taught, who had a hustle, but the fact that you got them where you sleep at, lets me know that you were fooled.

That's common sense, anybody know that?

I don't care if you white, black, Asian, whatever, you commit the crime, everybody, you don't get high off your own supply.

Why in the world would you have everything you got where you sleep at?

When your wife is there, your son, or if it's your mother, whoever it is.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Success changes your lifestyle, but it doesn't necessarily change your type.

And if you're just listening, yes, I am holding us accountable, ladies, because at the end of the day, we, especially if you come from the inner city, I don't

Yeah, he be buying me flowers.

He opened doors.

He takes me out, but it's just something about him.

I don't know.

He ain't hood enough.

He ain't street enough.

We confuse.

We confuse men like that for being weak and soft because they not out here in the streets.

And yes, I used to be like that when I was younger, not because I was attracted to danger.

But because it's something about a man that knows how to protect you without you telling him.

It's something about a man that went through something and you went through something and now it's called trauma bonding.

They have a name for it now.

Back then it was just, hey, I grew up like this.

You did too.

We have similarities.

We understand each other.

That's called trauma bonding.

Yes, some people were dealt a certain hand.

I get it.

I promise you I do.

So was I.

But at some point there has to be no excuses at some point if you love your man you gonna set them boundaries Hey, I love you and I know yo yo circumstances and what you've been through in life, but baby I'm a mother.

I'm a daughter.

I'm a sibling.

I have a professional career I can't be involved in that so this what I'm gonna do I'm gonna set these boundaries up while you get it together You need help starting the business.

I'll show you how to do it cool

I'll show you, you gotta go start a trucking company.

You wanna go work a nine and five to save your money up to start your business.

It's okay, I will hold it down.

Go ahead and get you that third shift job so you can save enough money to start your business so you can walk away from it all.

I'm not giving you advice to date people who are doing illegal activities.

I am being transparent and I'm talking to my people.

If it don't apply, let it fly.

Because this is a reality, especially in the city of Milwaukee.

Y'all are more addicted to making excuses because you're addicted to the life.

You're addicted to the fast cash, the trips, the money, all of tangible things that you can't even take with you.

So much to the point that you're willing to risk your freedom for your children.

All because you want to live this life and you like the excitement, you want to be able to say my man got money.

My man out here, he got money.

He got this kind of car, he got that kind of car.

He be doing this for me, he be taking me here.

My wig cost $400.

Okay, what's going, you going to be looking like he show off belly when they come and put you under the ussail.

Show Liz.

Y'all remember that mug shot?

That's what you gonna be looking like what you gonna look like when they take that lace front up off your head and you got the Cleo's going straight to the back and you own jail whatever Milwaukee County jail based

recently booked

recently booked looking a damn best Because you wanted that lifestyle, right?

Right shout out to the to the chat

Babar says, I just need you to be you.

I don't need you doing all that.

Jazz Tyler says, she got played.

Hello.

Right?

Right?

Babar said, he kisses my neck a certain way.

Blocked.

For real.

We got a caller on the line.

Brother Love, are you there?

Yes, I'm here.

How you doing, Jazz?

You doing your thing today?

Thank you.

Thank you so much for tapping in.

How are you?

Oh, I'm feeling marvelous.

I'm feeling marvelous.

I just want to say that you're doing such a wonderful job on these relationships.

And I just feel like sometimes you can't control who you get in a relationship with.

I just feel I just feel like

You know what, Jazz?

You know, you're doing such a good job.

I'm just going to let you cook.

And I'm just going to let you know, girl, you're doing a fabulous and amazing job.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you so much, Brother Love.

I truly appreciate that.

Thank you so much for listening and always tapping in with us.

Listen, I just want us to do better as a people, man.

I'm not here to judge nobody.

I come from the streets.

I was brought up in a certain environment.

I did not have an easy life.

Nothing was ever handed to me.

I had to get it how I live.

But guess what?

I didn't have breast cancer.

I didn't be assaulted as a child.

I didn't went through a divorce while I was going through breast cancer recovery.

I still don't make no excuse.

I got lupus.

I be tired, stressed, and sick.

I still don't make no excuses.

I'm for damn sure ain't about to give no Negro no excuse.

to put me in a situation that's gonna take me away from everything because of a lifestyle, or because he tell me he love me.

Man, you can miss me.

Them days is over with baby, I'm a grown woman.

If you don't have a health care plan, dental health benefits, all of that, don't even talk to me.

Okay?

You don't even have life insurance.

Don't talk to me.

Them days of just riding around because it's fun again.

I'm not telling somebody how what to do or how to do it I'm just saying be smart about it man I come up around an environment where I have seen situations like this But these men never put they women in situations like that You can say what you want you can make whatever excuse you want But at the end of the day you will fool a for having your drugs in the same place that you sleep And be being too comfortable

Now you don't put everybody at risk and when you put everybody at risk Who gonna pay for what if we both in jail?

Who's gonna take care of everybody?

Y'all know the D boy mamas the mama's gonna come first, baby Whatever money they got saved up.

You better believe it's going on.

Mama bills.

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Truth Nation, it's your girl, Jazz Tyler.

We got some callers on the line.

Mr. Wright, are you there?

The car is on 15th and right.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I'm here, Jazz.

How you doing, Jazz?

I'm doing good.

Thank you so much for tapping in.

How are you?

Good.

Good.

Thank you.

Um, um, just trying to take care of business right now here cutting grass.

Um, I just wanted to say, uh, uh, make them clap to this.

You know what I mean?

You, you give them the business today.

Um, you know, and I think where, where most people go wrong and they don't understand, you know, do you say they put that girl in the school?

That's, that's cool.

That's all great.

But my feet had the greatest sand and the greatest song I ever heard and it was make them clap to this.

You know what I mean?

It says.

take your drug money, make it to clean money, could clean money last longer than drug money, make them talk to this.

And they just don't understand if some people get in the game, yes, a fast life, but it ain't a long life.

Do you understand

me?

It's like hitting and quitting.

And most niggas, I'm sorry.

Most people don't understand that.

You know what I mean?

And so people don't know how to transfer from that life.

But it's just, I'm sorry, but yeah, you, you know, I just wanted to say, say that, but this

Yeah, I got me heated.

I'm out cutting grass.

It's OK, Mr. White,

you're speaking.

Thank you so much, and you are not lying.

I promise you are spitting hard core facts.

And again, it don't make sense.

It does not make sense to me.

We got another caller on the line.

Security Mike, are you there?

Yes, I'm here, Jazz.

Thank you so much for tapping in.

How are you?

OK, I'm all right.

I'm like that previous caller, Brother Little said you are.

You got it going on.

You get this topic.

Thank you.

Because it ain't gonna change.

It's been going on since the day of time.

A woman, beautiful woman, ugly woman don't matter.

They always want that hard guy.

Yes.

They always want that hard guy that fell off.

And with that comes consequences.

Yes.

Severe consequences.

That woman that threw away everything, lost everything.

You know, and one thing like you said,

She shouldn't have had it.

Whatever drugs it was, it shouldn't have been at that spot where they're laying their heads.

It should have been somewhere else.

That's the main point.

And girl, you're cooking because this topic is true and is going on right now.

I had a woman that chose a brother over me way back in the day.

He had a Cadillac.

I was on the bus.

I mean, I had a job and everything.

I've always kept that.

But she chose that guy years later when I saw her, she was she was dope out.

Yeah.

She she she was messed up.

But she chose that guy.

I mean, I was a street guy, too, but I wasn't hard like that.

I wasn't selling drugs.

And then I was a street guy that played ball, played ball and I worked a job.

Yes.

But I guess she liked to just got in this Cadillac and look what happened to her.

Yeah,

thank you so much.

I truly appreciate that shout out to brother love shout out to security Mike shout out to Mr. Right for calling in as well and shout out to the chat Babar says once that once they get you in that type of life is hard to back out easy he would have to bounce To a different state exactly it is and the only reason why I'm bringing it up is because Oftentimes you know

Oftentimes women who come from certain environments or who have a fear of being along or not being protected, they are attracted to men like this.

Again, I talked about it earlier.

A lot of these relationships are trauma bonds.

I'm talking from experience too.

When I was in my 20s, early 30s, yes, I will only talk to a certain type of man because he have to, listen,

I'm obviously, I don't know if you guys noticed, I am obviously not the precisest of them all, okay?

No, I'm not a uppity black woman who grew up in a suburban area with degrees and masters and so on and so on.

I am a woman who comes from 14th and Berlai, who grew up in a certain type of environment that took what the cars I was dealt and made the best out of it based off of what I knew.

There are also a lot of men out here like that as well So I get it But again, we always hold in the man accountable.

We're never holding a man can only do what you allow him a Man can only do what you allow him to do.

What do you mean jazz?

What I mean is if you allow him to stay stagnant Because you're accustomed to this lifestyle too, then you're both gonna go to jail or die

And again, I'm not telling you, you should talk to someone in illegal activities, I'm just saying.

If that is the case, you are just as guilty if you are not pushing that man towards greatness.

If you ain't saying, baby, listen, we need to stop.

Some of y'all are real life Tasha's off power out here.

Some of y'all are real life Tasha's and y'all are the problem, right?

Soon he wanna walk away.

No, you want that lifestyle so bad.

You want that attention so bad.

that you're willing to have your face plaster on the news because of it.

Set them boundaries up.

And this is how you're going to know if he is who he say he is.

Because if he is, he's going to get his stuff together.

He's going to listen.

There is no way in 2026 that some of your grown tell self are still using the excuse of you got to get it how you live.

I'm not saying that's everybody's situation to where, you know, some people just, hey, I get it.

But at the end of the day, a lot of y'all are just making excuses.

Y'all making excuses, and y'all glorifying something, and then you running while your children running around.

Okay, when I was in high school...

Did we have weave?

Yeah, we did up duels.

We did the French rolls and the finger waves and all of that.

But these girls are walking around with bust down, lace front, 16 to 20 to 30 inches long down their backs, piercings all over their face.

They talking to both girls and boys.

The young boys are around here doing what they're doing too.

Why?

Because they are mimicking this behavior.

They are mimicking this behavior They think that this behavior is normal It's not It's not We have to start setting examples You got to grow up mentally some of y'all grown is and y'all still out here don't come on man And I'm gonna be honest a lot of them do it because they slow Half of these men need to read with their finger

They don't know how the difference between I know in OW and N O They slow Call it how I'm a call a spade a spade or they know they slow, but they some mathematicians They know how to go get that bag They are scientists, baby.

They may not know how to read but they know all about that my nun

They're chemists, right?

But this is their only outlet.

They know nothing else.

That's why they say, yeah, go to school.

I'm going to pay for it.

But is you going to help me with my homework?

Are you going to help me with my homework?

Come on out.

I love y'all.

I do.

I love my sisters.

I love my brothers.

I am talking to the old jazz too.

I promise I am.

So I'm not coming down on y'all hard because I'm judging y'all.

I'm not a, I don't look like what I've been through.

I know women out here who feel the way towards me because they feel like I'm too rough around the edges with a girl.

You don't know what I've been through.

I still made it out and still made something for myself with no, with nobody giving me nothing and no excuses.

And at some point you have to live your life and elevate mentally the things I used to like.

I don't like no more.

I don't want that.

Why?

because going home to my children every night is more important.

Having my freedom is more important.

Ain't no P.P.

in the world.

Ain't no money in the world.

That's gonna make me want anything else.

I don't care about a Louis bag, a Birkin bag, I don't even wear none of that stuff.

I don't wear brands because of the history of it.

I don't wanna be branded.

If it's gonna be a brand, it's gonna be a black brand.

But some of y'all are simply being paid in events.

That's how I see it.

Y'all be some of y'all are being paid in events not to say nothing.

She gonna ride for me.

She gonna die for me.

She gonna hold it down.

I'm gonna buy this, buy that.

I know when that time come my baby got me.

You a coward.

Any man I know that was living that life ain't never put that woman in a position to lose everything.

Y'all some cowards period Y'all sloppy y'all greedy y'all did y'all make excuses your arrogant prideful vanity Gluttony everything You're doing it because you want to be able to say you want the Papa dough and Houston's and Cheddar's and post pictures and you look at me I got all his money you look like a fool

At your big grown age, you look like a fool.

Trying to compete with these young boys because your ego brews, right?

You better sit down somewhere and you better do everything you can to stay free because in a few years, some of your stuff ain't gonna work no more.

You're gonna have high blood pressure, all types of stuff.

And when you can't get out here and do what you do, who gonna take care of you?

Not your woman or your baby mama if she in jail.

Get it together get your life together It don't make no sense and it's a lot of people running around here like that and they go they gonna chew me out some people might hey guess what Who would I be if I did not?

Try and put you on the right track.

I love my people.

We are people of many different talents We are people that come from certain environments.

We are people who never had nothing We got to get it how we live, but at some point we got to stop making excuses and sus I'm not going to join that bandwagon Because of a lifestyle.

I'm a I'm okay

I'm okay with being who I am, living how I live.

If it means I can stay free, watch my daughter graduate college, watch my other children grow up, take care of my mom and my dad, I'm okay with that.

If that means that I need to go find me a man who got a health insurance, dental insurance, listen baby, again, if your job ain't gave you no benefits, I don't want you.

You ain't got life insurers.

I don't want you Cuz what you gonna do by your way out?

They ain't even taking cash no more pee It's a cashless society It's a cashless society what you come on man y'all y'all doing it backwards we got to go to break

When we come back, gonna have some more conversations.

She girl Jazz Tyler, one on 1.7 is

true.

You are officially tapped in

with your girl Jazz Tyler on the award, winning 1 on 1.7 in truth.

Locate at the American Family Insurance Studio, the beautiful heart of downtown Milwaukee.

Listen, if you are just now tuning in, we are talking about professional women who are addicted to straight into men, dating men who are involved in illegal activities.

And prior to us going to break, I was holding a

accountable ladies.

Holding us accountable.

So I want to be clear.

I'm not here to judge.

I'm not here to tell anybody what to do, how to live.

But at the end of the day, we have to start making better choices.

Why?

Most importantly, so that we can stay alive and free.

But our babies are watching.

Our babies are paying attention.

Accountability is how we grow.

If this makes you uncomfortable, it should.

It means that you are doing something, you aren't doing something right.

Shout out to my sister Trina.

That's my best friend, my blood sister too.

Love you Trina.

But again, you have to hold yourself accountable.

So I'm not telling you to date a man that does illegal activity, I ain't telling you you shouldn't.

What I am telling you is that at some point you have to set boundaries because if that man don't know where he going baby, he's gonna drag you along the way, right along with him.

Can you imagine being with the man who do what he do?

You wake up the fast kick your door in because all the stuff that he got is is right there in the closet next to y'all Right and y'all trying to tell me that that means love that you are willing to put me in a situation to where my freedom could be taken away People out here making excuses talking about they got to get it how they live

Oh, you gonna get it how you live when you drop that soap, sir?

Take that, take that, take that.

If you don't get it together, you're gonna get it how you live right there in Green Bay.

Stop making excuses.

You are addicted to that fast life.

You are addicted to tangible items.

That's the real reason why you don't wanna stop doing what you're doing.

And you think that you're skating by because you put your girlfriend in college.

Not wife you put your girl in college Then your women go out and start businesses with these guys now you're wrapped up legally whether y'all are married or not But on a serious note I get it I want to end with this I get it.

I promise I do especially when you come from a certain environment

It's certain men, you don't have to tell what to do.

They just know they got something about them.

It's in them and not on them.

But baby, let me tell you, if that's your type, don't date the man that's in the street.

Date the man that used to be in the streets.

There is a difference.

There is a difference.

Again, there is no man, no love, no pee pee in this world that's going to make me miss out on waking up to my babies every day.

I don't care how good he look, and I'm not gonna lie.

When I was younger, yes, it used to be fun.

Do that make sense?

No, it was though, but key word, when I was younger, hello, I'm a grown woman.

Y'all be looking all good, coming with y'all money.

Y'all, yeah, I got money, yeah, but yo, come on, you got that rotten tooth in the back, cause you ain't got no dental insurance.

know what you got going on down there because you never go to the doctor, but you got a lot of money.

You got a whole lot of money, but you got high blood pressure because you ain't got no health insurance and you won't go to the doctor.

Can't see, ain't got vision insurance, don't got life insurance, so if something had passed away, you pass away, we got a raise of money.

And then again, we all know how a lot of our beloved

Brothers in the streets are when it comes to the mama Oh when he got a jail and you got a jail, baby It ain't gonna be no money on your books because mama need her mortgage paid Mama need some groceries Now I don't raise you your whole life and you gonna put that hustler over me You gonna put that harlot over me wear her pin.

They need I need this I need baby.

You ain't getting nothing His mama gonna get it first

I promise you.

Pay attention.

Wake up.

Wake up.

Who are you going to choose?

Yourself or that lifestyle?

I'm not judging you.

I'm not judging a man for those who are tuning in because I understand what our black man go through every day.

I understand how we got here.

This is hundreds of years of an agenda put into place to make it this way, which is the very reason why you need not to.

At some point, you gotta stop.

At some point, y'all have to stop glorifying this bull crap, man.

For real.

Ain't nothing cute about being in your late 30s, 40s, 50s with these tight ass pants on with rhinestones, with bottles in the club, talking about you having money.

Keeping a dope at your house where your baby mama live at and your baby got the pistol dope in the house with a baby deep Police don't know when to kick the dough in y'all scam and got all types of stuff going but oh he loved me He said we go get married.

Yeah, right at the courthouse, but not outside.

You're going to be in jail You're going to jail you are

Y'all got to get it together man for real Get it together stop dating the guys in the streets and get date the guys that used to be in the streets because if he's still in the streets Especially at a certain age, baby.

He ain't got it.

We know he a little slow We know we got to use his finger to read.

We know he don't know the difference between KNOW and NO.

We know I get it Yes, it is if you can't read it's a joke I want you to

Know how much I love you.

I. I'm just saying, but bar say, what does love have to do with it?

That's what they be telling them.

That's what I'm trying to tell you, but bar, that's what they be telling them.

I love you.

You a ride or die.

Yeah, you gonna die.

If you keep riding baby, I promise you I Just want us to change our mentality Because I'm not a rider die in my opinion riding for you means Making your lunch where you go to work aren't in your work clothes Making sure you straight when you come home making sure your credit is together making sure I support your mental health Making sure that you don't have people negative influences around you.

That's being your rider

Not me pulling up, helping you bust moves.

Baby, we grown.

We are grown.

And again, I'm not knocking your hustle.

But if you got the same hustle you didn't had from 1995, brother, you, something ain't right.

Something ain't right.

It ain't about who, I'm not, everything don't mean it's about me.

and who I've been dating, Babar, it's about the reality of I'm a black woman, so I can speak to it.

I know a lot of people like this, right?

They gravitate towards that lifestyle so much to the point where they become a grown woman, put up on her way to the fence because you're catering to this lifestyle.

We all hear hustling and getting it.

Yeah, y'all was doing the same thing since 1995.

Y'all still ain't got no business?

Something wrong.

Something is wrong.

So again, I understand when you come from a certain place, you got to get it how you live.

You got to feed your family.

But at some point you have to decide is your freedom, is that lifestyle more important than your freedom and the people around you?

When you bring that type of stuff into your home that your family sleep at, you put everybody at risk.

And guess what?

Nowadays, the police ain't going to call nobody to come pick them up.

They're going to call CPS.

They're going to call CPS.

So while y'all out here pushing, living this life, doing whatever, and they kick that dough, they're calling the CPS.

Yep.

And guess what?

You can thank all y'all because nobody wanted to grow up and say, uh, let me, let me do this so I can do this.

Like I said about the music, it used to be a time where the music came from the streets.

Now they run into the streets.

The music was made to get out the streets.

Now everybody's running to the streets.

And a lot of the people who are older are doing it because that's all they... Yeah, they don't want to be a you-soul.

Aw, man, I used to have it.

I used to have it going on back when I was having money.

It's okay to be a you-soul than to be a nobody and be deceased or locked away and you can't complete your legacy whatsoever.

Get it together.

We got to go to break.

Do not touch that dial.

She girl, Jazz Tyler, 101.7 of truth.

I have one of

my favorite people here.

She wasn't able to make it last week.

If you grew up in Milwaukee, you know she is the baddest of the baddest.

Ain't nobody gonna contest it.

We are talking about the one and only Sandra D. Hey, Sam.

Hey.

Thank you so much for stopping in today.

I truly appreciate it.

I'm also happy to see you.

Yes,

likewise.

I am so happy to see you.

I know Smalls passed away recently and it brought

Memory up of when we traveled to Atlanta.

Yeah, and I was pursuing my dreams and all of that stuff and I was just telling Homer and People I was close to Biko like I just want to get people flowers.

You know, I'm not worried about anybody else leaving anytime soon or nothing like that, but It's time.

Yeah,

it's time.

It is so time.

Thank you so much for tapping in with us Before you came on we were talking about something I'm sure you're familiar with because of your line of work, but

I want to tap into you, your history, the contributions that you've made to Milwaukee culture when it comes to beauty, fashion, all of that.

Who is Saundra Dee?

Well, Saundra Dee is an award-winning worldwide hairstylist.

Celebrity hairstylist.

Celebrity

hairstylist, yes.

Put that respect

on my

head.

Yep, so I've, you know, I've done so much throughout the time that I've been doing hair.

I started out when I was an itty bitty kid,

you

know, with just a wish.

And then I completely said, I spoke those words into existence when I was small and I didn't realize it.

A cousin of mine said, what do you want to be when you grow up?

I said, I want to be a celebrity stylist.

Now I'm 345.

Yes, saying these things, but that just goes to show you how powerful words are.

And when I tell you that is my life today.

Yes.

Like, you know, it's I've been through some hurdles.

I've been through a lot of learning lessons.

Yeah.

But I'm here today just to tell a few successful stories as well as, you know, things that I've kind of stumbled on in the past.

Yes.

Yes.

So take us back.

So when you first started in the 90s, what was the culture like?

How did you come up with some of the ideas you had when it came to hairstyles and things of that nature?

Because it is prominent in our history.

It's a part of our history and you contributed to it.

Man, let me tell you, Jazz, for one, now as me being as old as I am, I can completely say I'm ADHD when it comes to

the

hair gang.

You hear me?

It's like I get bored.

I'm

very artistic.

So

that's what kind of helped pave the way into my creativity.

Yes, it's like I can't stand to have a person getting the same exact thing as someone else.

I know that.

There can be a million people with the same style, but since their head shape or facial shape

is

different, it's gonna look totally different

on

that person.

So, you know, I just kinda switch lanes and switch gears when it comes to a specific hairstyle catered to that facial or that bone structure.

And I'm a witness.

I'm a witness.

I remember I was watching the BT Awards in like 2010.

And I seen Keisha Cole with this hairstyle, and I was like, said, I gotta have this for my mixtape release party.

But you did it your way.

You did it your way.

The all green, everything.

Like you just, to your point, that's what separates you two because a lot of people don't know what you just said.

They don't know how to shape it based off your face.

facial structure, all of that.

So back then, were you involved in putting on the hair shows?

Yes.

So what I did was when I first initially went to my first hair show, I was working with Corky.

He's the one that introduced me to the hair show.

I heard that name in a man.

Let me

tell you, I used man.

And so I'm going to kind of back it up, but I'm going to kind of fast forward at the same time.

So I was a school crossing guard,

right?

I was always playing and doing here when I was a kid.

But then by the time I turned 18, I'm like, OK, I think I can go ahead and do this for real as a profession.

I ended up just kind of practicing and practicing like my sisters and family members, friends.

I got kicked out of the house, my mom's basement

from doing a Jerry

curl.

Rest

in peace to your mom.

Yes, I know.

Thank you.

She was like, oh, had I known you were going to be as big as what you were, I would have

never

kicked you out the basement.

But fast forward, I ended up when I was I want to say 1990s when I was I was looking for a.

Well, let me back up.

I first initially got my own salon.

It's about 20.

OK,

it was a really like ghetto.

Yeah.

I bought it from a.

Yes, I was just starting off.

I bought this old, old fashioned furniture from this older lady because she was ready to get out of the game.

And she was in the game for a very long time.

She was doing like some cold finger dry,

dry

finger waves.

Oh

my God.

Yeah.

But

anyway, this guy I had met.

He was like, hey.

Um, he noticed my son's fate.

He was like, Hey, I bet you I'm colder than you.

I said, I bet you you're not.

Yeah.

So, you know, he said, okay, he took me to the shop, me and my, uh, me and of my sister and then another friend and we went and I showed him what I had.

He was like, Oh man, I'm gonna have to get you up in here.

Yeah.

So this is the older lady.

And so he said, well, tell her that you are going to be working on your license.

You're going to school.

Yeah.

So that's back then they were really strict

with people

working in the salon without a lot.

So I was like, okay, so I told her that.

And then the first day I worked, she was like, oh, you are really good.

And when did you say you gonna be graduating?

And I'm like, uh.

You're trying to find

something.

So

I ended up, you know, I didn't have a designated date, but that kind of catapulted me to going to Cosmetology School after, you know, I had this, I had already had the passion.

I had already had it in me.

So

by the time I went to school, it came out.

And so she's like ready to get rid of the Salon.

I'm like, OK, well, I'll buy it.

Guess how much I bought it for.

2000.

$5,000.

Oh, come on.

$5,000 for my first salon.

Yeah.

And again, it was mine.

It was raggedy.

Yeah.

But then the next thing you know, that's when I really didn't know anything about how it went.

I just thought, hey, I bought a salon.

Yeah.

So this one guy comes in and he's like, hey, I bought this shop.

I said, what?

I bought it.

What do you mean?

He was like, no, you bought the furniture.

I said, really?

I thought that all I was going to have to do was pay the rent

because I

kept asking her, OK, when is the time for me to pay the rent?

Because

she was

still working there.

And she was like, well, I'll let you know all of that girl.

This man and came in him and his wife and I had to take my little raggedy furniture

and go somewhere else and

move out.

So that was.

the start of a learning lesson.

Yes.

Right.

Yes.

So then I put it all in my garage and I started doing here out of my basement.

Come on now.

So once I started

the roller

set,

you

hear

me, the roller set.

And I was

doing finger waves.

Yes.

I was doing, well, let's see, roller sets, finger waves and like ponytails

and

different things like that.

So as I fast forward, as I started to get better,

And after I graduated, you know, I ended up initially starting to work with this with Corky.

Uh huh.

So when Corky met me, he was like, Oh my God, the world needs to see you.

You know,

I'm like, Oh, okay.

And.

At that time, I knew about hair shows, but I didn't know how to get in them.

So he's like, hey, I got this one guy, but it's in Detroit.

You have to go to Detroit and I'll call him and let him know that you'll go and represent for me.

I was like, OK, that sounds good.

So girl, we drove me and like four other models.

We drove down to Detroit.

We walked in there, just did some little catwalks, some

little

strolls, and they loved it.

And they're like, hey, in every sense.

and that's when

it started.

It's been up from there.

What are you?

So right now you are an instructor, right?

I am.

Okay.

Come on now.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

How do you love that?

I love it.

You know, it's very gratifying when I could see a student that wants to have what I had.

Yes.

And they take everything that I give them and they take it and they can start from not even knowing how to hold a comb properly.

It's crazy.

Yes.

But then when I see the progress, I'm like, come

on.

They got it.

That's what I love the most.

What advice do you have for young women and men who are in this generation?

that are interested in doing what you have done.

OK.

What I say is eat, sleep, and drink here.

If you

want to be great and set yourself aside, you know, eat, sleep, and drink it.

You

know,

as for anything else, you need to educate yourself as much as possible.

It's

not just about styling that hair.

It's about learning how to take care of that hair as well.

Yes.

Yes.

And building that confidence.

And

building that confidence, repetition.

Yes.

Is what's going to get you there.

Yes, indeed.

Thank you so much, Sam, for joining us.

We most definitely are going to have you back on here so we can have a full conversation because I know from having conversations with you that you are more than just here.

You are your people.

You are the community.

And you do a great job at utilizing here to build confidence.

Absolutely.

And people.

And people.

And I love you for that.

I love you

too.

While I'm giving them a word

and

another thing before we go, I always tell my students, give them

something what they don't have.

Don't come cussing all in their ear.

Speak some knowledge, give them some wisdom, and help them out

with their

confidence.

Yes,

be that therapist.

Be that

therapist,

because that's what we are.

That's right, that's right.

Thank you so much.

Make sure you guys double back tomorrow in the morning show with Bailey Coleman and Homer Blow, followed by Sherwin Hughes and Ray Nitty and maybe Shannon.

On the lunch break, then the grapevine and double back with your girl, Jazz Tyler, at tap in Monday through Friday, 4 p.m.

to 7 p.m.

Thank you so much, Milwaukee.

We love you.

Have a great evening.

Peace.

you

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Thank you all so much for tapping in today.

Got an interesting show today.

There's a lot happening.

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We are going to talk about some interesting topics Apparently there was a Picasso found inside of a Milwaukee apartment There's some interesting updates regarding the trial of Tupac Shakur We're gonna talk about that storm that happened yesterday sometimes.

I don't know if we in Milwaukee or another state, but it was

It was going down, trees uprooted from the ground, so on and so on.

And we're also going to talk about the Milwaukee Courthouse case, professional women and street life relationships.

Listen, I need my professional women to tap in at five o'clock because the Milwaukee County Courthouse employee is currently facing serious criminal allegations.

Which opened the door to a completely different conversation for me I know a lot of women professional women in particular who will be able to relate to this so we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about The woman with the career the degree the reputation the house the retirement plan, but her type Street What show type well, let's talk about it at six

We have a special guest coming in the building.

So we'll be talking about beauty, entrepreneurship, fashion, culture, all of the above.

So apparently a Picasso was sitting inside of an apartment.

A signed 1949 Picasso that was stolen from a Milwaukee gallery in 2018 was found as a landlord was cleaning out a vacant apartment after an eviction discovered the artwork.

At the time it was stolen, it had been valued in the ten thousands of dollars, right?

So for those who are not into art or who are not aware, there are some very expensive art pieces.

So when you see all rich white people and some of the entertainers purchasing art is because it has value, right?

So we're not talking about a poster.

We're not talking about somebody named Picasso.

We're talking about Pablo.

Picasso, right?

So imagine throwing something away and you are cleaning trash, um, old lamps, old furniture, so on and so on.

And you run into this painting, right?

And you have no idea what the value of this painting is or you go to a rummage sale and somebody wants $20 for a picture.

Mind you.

A lot of Picasso artwork is not like typical artwork.

So if you are not into art, you will have no idea that these type of paintings cost a lot of money and their value at a lot of money.

Um, I got a question for you.

If you go to a rummage sale and somebody wants $20 for a picture and you talk them down to $15 and six months later.

And a praiser tells you that it's worth $50,000.

Are you calling the seller?

That's like saying you found money on the ground after you see somebody drop it, right?

We're talking like 100,000.

They just left a bag.

Are you gonna keep that bag or are you gonna go contact them, right?

If you have this painted and you purchased it from a rummage sale, are you gonna give the person who sold it to you a percentage?

I don't want no church answer.

I want the real answer.

How much do I owe Brenda?

10,000, 5,000, right?

Are you going to give her anything?

Are you going to give them a part of the profit?

If someone unknowingly sells you something worth a fortune, do you have a moral obligation to tell them?

My personal opinion, absolutely not.

Absolutely not.

I'm not giving you a effin' thing because you ain't had no business selling it.

The person who was selling it more than likely knew what it was, even if they didn't.

By the time you make a transaction, you are no longer the owner.

Now, if this is somebody that is close to me, a family, a friend, something like that, and they say, hey, I got this painting, I don't want it, right?

I don't even know what it is.

You can have it.

And they give it to me and I find out that it's worth fifty thousand dollars a hundred thousand dollars I might throw them something because I'll rock with them But if I'm just at a random rummage sale or a random Goodwill or something and I see this portrait And find out no, I'm not giving nobody nothing because for what?

You should have kept it that show lost they don't got nothing to do with me, right?

And it's crazy because I've never had

a situation like this but um underneath the joke is something real how often is something valuable sitting right in front of us and we don't even recognize the value until somebody tells us whether it's art property music people culture sometimes a lot of it is sitting right in our face um i don't know if you guys watch those hoarder tv shows but a lot of people tend to keep things for those reasons now i'm not condoning

Being a hoarder, but I do know a lot of people who tend to collect Vintage items, you know people who spend their days especially if it's a Tuesday going to the Goodwill's and local thrift stores finding vintage pieces attempting to Resale them for a higher price, but when you think about Generations you think about things that your grandparents had things that your mother had

Um, it makes you wonder how much can I get for this?

How much can I get for that old phone that your grandma still got sitting up in the closet somewhere, right?

I'm not saying start rumbling around.

Your grandma, uh, belong is trying to see if you can find something because that will make you a crackhead.

That's what crackheads do in our voice.

They go and try to find things that they can sell, but it does make me wonder.

The things that we have, whether it's at home, whether it's in storage, whether it's a family member, how much of what we have and what we keep throughout the years is actually worth something.

I know they talk a lot about this on social media with coins.

There's people that collect coins, people that collect basketball cards, you know, all types of things.

I even have a couple autographed books.

Got me wondering if I need to go ahead and put it out there and see what I can get.

Again, me personally, I am not doubling back.

If you sell me something that is worth over, I don't care if it's worth 10,000.

I'm not giving you nothing.

You shouldn't have sold it to me.

It's mine.

I don't know if that makes me selfish.

I don't know what it makes me.

But what I do know is I'll be rich.

And at the end of the day, I don't like sharing.

So be more you got to be more careful.

You have to be more careful and you got to pay attention You have to pay attention before my aunt so my grandmother's house My grandmother had a phone stole.

She had a stove in the basement She had an old phone like a rotary phone all types of things from the 1940s literally and They junked it and I was upset because I know it was worth something.

It could have been worth something

Now it got me going back asking my mama.

What do she got?

What is she sitting on right?

Most importantly the people who found it I Don't even know how it made it to the news because I wouldn't say nothing I want to tell not one person the fact that it made it to the news means that They gave the painting back or they told the landlord and gave it to them.

I'm not telling nobody

I don't care if I'm a worker, I don't care if I'm a landlord, finders, keepers, losers, weepers.

That's how I was raised, that's what I was taught growing up, was minds is minds.

I got first dibs, right?

We gonna play hot hands for it.

Don't touch, this is minds.

And apparently they felt the need probably because they were uneducated.

They were not aware of

what a Picasso picture actually is and how much it is worth.

And it also brings me to another point.

You know, I've watched entertainers, I've watched rich white people invest in art.

And at first, when I was younger, I never really understood it.

Like, why are they, why is it so such a big deal to auction off art?

And why is everybody bidding in hundreds of thousand dollars because of the value?

Right?

Because of the value.

It makes me wonder if that's something that we should start, uh, investing in.

Shout out to the chat.

LaRon Taylor said, if the person sells you an item that they bought was worth $15 for $15 and you find out it's worth $100,000.

Why are you even thinking about telling them you sold it for $100,000?

People talk too much.

Exactly.

Exactly.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm not telling nobody nothing.

If I find a Picasso,

whether it's in my house or if I was uh hired to clean out an apartment or a house because of an eviction and I find it, I'm not telling nobody.

It don't belong, I mean technically I guess it will belong to the landlord but again, the landlord don't gotta know neither.

Like who is really, I don't know any landlords that's sitting there like yeah go through everything that was in that apartment so I can see what I want.

No, keep your mouth closed.

Keep your mouth closed.

We got to go to break coming up.

We are changing gears.

Day three of witness testimony in the Tupac and Marvel Shakur murder trial.

No conspiracy rabbit holes and no internet detective work.

What has actually happened in court, what prosecutors are trying to prove, what the defense is challenging and whether a 30 year old case can.

ever truly be tried like a new case.

That's next.

It's your girl Jazz Tyler.

Do not touch that down.

One on 1.7 the truth.

One on 1.7 the truth.

It's your girl Jazz Tyler.

You are officially tapped in.

Today is day three of witness testimony in the murder trial connected to the death of the legendary Tupac Amarush Kaur.

Before I go any further, let's establish something.

Duane Keefeede Davis has not pleaded guilty.

Prosecutors allege he helped orchestrate the 1996.

The defense disputes the prosecution case.

So I'm not asking I want to be clear about this.

I'm not asking you who do you think killed Tupac?

I'm not doing any quote-unquote conspiracy theories.

I'm interested in what can actually be proven in a courtroom almost 30 years later So think about what prosecutors are attempting to do take events from September 1996 and reconstruct them for jurors in August of 2026

Witnesses are older some people connected to the case are no longer with us Relationships have changed Memories have changed.

You know a lot of us can't even remember what happened yesterday let alone 30 years ago However, I do know that when something serious happens in your life

it is almost impossible to forget if you were there physically, right?

There are just certain things that I can replay in my mind no matter how long ago it was because it had a significant impact on me.

And the public has consumed three decades of materials about this case as well.

And I'm speaking from a point of view of experience, so.

One of my best friends, he was also my producer, Jitann Kulay Claybourne.

In 2007 was found murdered inside of his studio with Yolanda LaLa Brown.

And that is almost 20 years ago, as of yesterday, and their case has still not been solved.

And when you go through the, when the family has to go through the process of attempting to either reopen a cold case,

or continue to work with the detectives to ensure that the case is solved, things get tricky.

It gets tricky because technology was different, information was different, the officers and detectives, some of them are retired, some of the people are not around, and then you have evidence that could have potentially been collected that was not collected.

So when you're trying to solve

a cold case quote unquote um especially when there are multiple people involved who are no longer with us representing Tupac's case then it becomes extremely difficult to work around because you don't have not only the victim but you have a lack of evidence as well.

The prosecutor's theory connects the shooting to the MGM grand altercation after the Mike Tyson fight.

Surveillance footage

has long shown Tupac and others involved in a fight with Orlando Anderson, who was Davis's nephew.

Prosecutors allege the later shooting was retaliation and that Davis helped organize it.

Again, that is an allegation for the jury to evaluate.

And the reason why I keep saying this is because we all have our personal opinions, right?

I'm not here to try and...

Build a name capitalized off of covering this case I am here simply explaining the case a because I owe it to the culture B because he has impacted my life personally see because I have a relationship with his family and Most importantly because we all know that the media has a way of portraying things the way that they want and if you ever in your life if you look at history

There is no record or evidence shown where anyone who was similar to a Tupac who was considered a leader has ever received justice or a fair trial.

So while we're covering this, we are going to talk about the case, but we're going to point out things for you guys to pay attention to that so that we can, you know, it makes sense.

Then there's one of the strangest pieces of the case.

the defendants talked about publicly for years.

Interviews, media appearances, a memoir, statements attributed to Davis helped revive attention to the investigation.

So prosecutors are asking jurors to consider his own words while the defense is challenging whether those words were reliable, exaggerated or presented in a different context.

Now here's a funny thing.

I don't understand how a person who goes on record multiple times, right?

and tell somebody that they was involved in a murder, and then turns around and retracts it, and please, not guilty.

There was somebody, Reggie Wright, Jr., who was head of security for death row, got on the stand yesterday, and they asked him if he knew who Keefe D. was.

And he said, and he paused, and he said, I've known him for being a cracker.

He said on stand that he knew him from being a crackhead.

Okay.

Then again, this gets very interesting.

Um, that's fascinating because the prosecutor is essentially saying, listen to what this man told you while the defense is essentially saying, don't automatically believe everything this man told you.

We're not talking about Reggie White.

There we're talking about QVD Davis.

Um, a jury has to determine what.

Was truth what may have been performance or exaggeration and what other evidence supports or contradicts those statements?

Yesterday the case became much more human, right?

So here's the part that's a little difficult and if you've ever had a loved one who passed away or Someone you know who has a loved one that passed away

There's nothing more difficult than having to sit in the middle of trial and view autopsy photos.

So the jurors heard forensic medical testimony about pox injury and cause of death.

Autopsy photographers were shown.

Some members of the family chose to leave before those images were displayed.

So obviously to the world, he was an icon, right?

But.

to his family he's known as a person.

So we know the albums, movies, interviews, and photographs, but they know a brother, a son, a relative, a loved one.

And the world has consumed content about his death for almost 30 years without realizing that his family actually has to live this day in and day out, right?

And obviously, you know, when you are related to someone of that magnitude, not

talking about fame, but spiritually, right?

Someone who calling in life is as big as his was, then you become immune to, you know, accepting the fact that you have to share them with the world.

The problem with that is people, citizens, everyday people began to feel entitled and obligated.

to the ownership of a human being that they view as an icon.

So whenever something happens, they feel like they are obligated to give opinions.

They're obligated to play investigator.

They're obligated to speak as if they actually knew this man personally.

And when that happens, people begin to make inhumane comments, forgetting that

There are still people alive that knew him personally and cared about him.

Another courtroom moment involved James Mop McDonald, a former death row associate.

He was subpoenaed and openly resisted portions of questioning.

The moment illustrates a major problem with an old case.

Witnesses are not frozen in time.

So in 1996, people who were young then are older now.

and relationships change, loyalty change.

Some people don't even want to be affiliated with who they used to be, right?

Some have heard other versions of the events throughout the decades and so on and so on.

And then they say, hey, we need you to come in court, sit under oath and tell us what happened.

And when he was on stand, he was having a battle with KPD Davis.

Attorney and one of the comments he made was I Don't want to put him in jail because I'm not that person anymore This is somebody who apparently stated that he was head of security at club 662, which was owned by sugar night Sugar night and caught up.

He don't want to sit on the stand, but he show on the stand on the phone with TMZ So basically he said if you're not gonna get me money, I don't want to talk

And I'm only laughing because it's ridiculous.

It really it truly is but Shug Knight did an interview with TMZ stating that His testimony was false that he never worked that mob James never worked head of security for him and the only reason why he's making comments about not wanting to put key PD in prison is because Pac laid him on his ass at one point in time.

So that takes me back to what I just said

Throughout the years, people become bitter, relationships changes, so on and so on.

So when you ask people to come back 30 years later to take a stand, my personal opinion, their testimony sometimes is not often just facts, it's based off of whatever they are feeling.

So in that time, if he had loyalty towards Shug and Defro and Poc 30 years ago and they would have questioned him, I'm pretty sure his answer would have been different.

But because he's older, here's the truth.

And anybody that's been a part of the streets know how this go.

When you are older and you are living a different life and your past catch up to you, you don't want no smoke.

That's basically what he's saying.

Don't put my name in it.

I don't want no smoke.

I got grandkids.

I want to live my life.

But here's the thing.

You cannot erase history.

If you was there, you was there.

Even if you are living a different life and you're on a different path, it does not change the fact that you was a part of history, despite of however you feel.

Right?

At the end of the day, Poc deserves a fair trial.

And when you think about your own memory, you pick a random night from 96.

Can you remember who stood on your left?

What words was spoken to you?

What time did you leave?

What happened five minutes later?

Right?

So on and so on again.

When I hear some of the officers and some people say I don't recall I don't recall it's like yeah, maybe Some words not verbatim, but you can't tell me that with the situation of this magnitude That you don't remember being stopped dead in your tracks and certain things happening, right?

Do we age?

Absolutely, but again is it's proven in science trauma When trauma is inflicted

You indeed are aware and can recall that situation more than any other situation, right?

So now prosecutors aren't simply asking jurors to trust one person's memory.

They are a sibling pieces surveillance video prior statements medical evidence law enforcement testimony and witnesses connected to that situation and their job is to persuade the jurors that the pieces together prove that

The charge is beyond a reasonable doubt.

The defense gets to put those pieces apart, right?

So we got to go to break.

When we come back, we will continue this conversation.

Do not touch that doubt should grow, Jazz

Tyler.

One-on-one point seven the truth is your girl Jazz Tyler.

We are live and direct if you are just now joining us We are talking about the updates of the Tupac Amarmo Shakur murder trial And again, yes, I am going to cover it not because of biases But because this is something that has impacted our culture for 30 years, right?

And even if you aren't a fan

Even if you aren't a fan of Tupac, you cannot discredit the work that he has contributed to this world, nor his legacy, which, again, is why this case is also important.

In my personal opinion, I truly believe that there's so much and so many entities tied to it that a lot will be exposed, not in the sense of, hey, I don't like this person, let's expose them, but just in the sense of how systems work.

and how far they are willing to go to destroy someone who attempts to change the masses of the mind of the people.

So again, if you are just not joining us, I was talking about how it is difficult for the problem with cold cases.

The difficulties is evidence.

When you have a case that has been unsold for 30 years, obviously, some people are not here any longer, including, you know, PAC.

You have evidence that should have been collected that probably wasn't.

You have people who have illnesses.

Some people may not recall certain things, so on and so on.

When I was watching some of the jury testimony including the the ladies who they in the movie portrayed that they were all out the car yelling his name so one and so on she stated that that was not the case so

You have all of these movies, documentaries, TV shows, memoirs, books, biographies, music, so on and so on that has been done by so many people throughout the entire years, whether they were approved by his family or not.

Just people throwing out so many different narratives based off of whatever information they think they have or may have.

And that also conflicts with the actual facts.

So much to the point where

You know, yes, you want justice, but it becomes a thing of, do I even want to entertain what these people are talking about?

Because you know what somebody is lying.

You know what somebody is on BS.

You know what somebody is afraid.

And to me, I feel like a lot of people who are getting on that stand are holding water.

I don't truly believe that they are telling the full truth.

I don't know if they've been.

um, threatened.

I don't know if they just, again, don't want to be affiliated with it, but a lot of the commentary, a lot of the conversations and the testimonies, um, just aren't, aren't sitting right with me.

Um, and here's a question I want you to think about, right?

Can a 30 year old case truly be tried like a new case?

This courtroom does not exist in a vacuum.

There have been, again, books, movies, podcasts, documentaries, theories, so on and so on.

Even if the jurors promise to consider only evidence presented in court, how difficult is it to completely separate what you've heard for decades from what you are hearing now?

Man, like, when you watch these movies and TV shows,

Um, when you look at certain things on the internet, if you didn't know his family personally, you would be misguided.

You would, there's so much inaccurate information out there.

There's still so many people who believe that pocket still alive.

Right.

And it's nothing you can do to change their minds, which lets me know that's how far down a rabbit hole they have gone just to try and receive some type of.

seek some type of answers when it comes to this case.

And we was talking about this the other day too.

You know, um, let's be clear for those who, who don't know who I am, I am a revolutionary first.

Been that always will be that.

And at the end of the day, I walked in truth, not honesty.

And the truth of the matter is evidence throughout history has shown people of this magnitude as a Tupac Shakur.

who stood up and had a stance, right?

It's never simply someone just murdered them.

It's always an agenda behind it.

That wasn't a murder.

That was an assassination.

Let's be clear.

Tupac Shakur was not murdered.

He was assassinated.

And the way that they did it, they did it in a way where it could be covered up.

It seems like there's so many different layers to it.

But outside of that, again, I want to keep...

saying this throughout our coverage.

If we're not careful, we'll spend another 30 years studying how he died and not studying how he lived.

Poet, actor, writer, artist, thinker, right?

Philosopher, a revolutionary, a young man who was speaking about poverty, police, and violence, inequality, motherhood, masculinity, family, and America.

So yes following the trial matters because truth matters accountability matters if we're able to sit in and watch the old Drake trial and the Riding King trial this should be taken as serious right and again because I'm telling you I Truly foresee so many people brushing past this like oh, we already know who did it so and so I won't say his name, but we already speculate who did it da da da da and

I guarantee you, I can't guarantee you, but I assume that there's going to be so much more to this than you can imagine.

And it's going to include so many more people that you never even imagine it including.

And at the end of the day, again, the goal is for us to honor his legacy, right?

It'd be a disservice not to not because he was a rapper But because of what he stood for and at the end of the day we keep talking about the youth and the rate that they're going and the fact that they don't have a backbone and they are numb to their peers and that they're Easy ready to die and live fast.

That's because they don't have no love for the people They don't understand the things that we as a people have been through throughout this entire country

Let's take it back.

Let me help you understand something.

We are no longer living in the days where slavery is taught in schools.

Okay?

We are no longer living in the days where these students are taught about real black history.

Yes, they like to highlight February.

Yes, they understand Martin Luther King and they may study Frederick Douglass.

But the information that we receive when we were in school is not the information that these babies have So that they don't even have a full understanding Of the true black history.

I'm not talking about a black history program I'm not talking about a poem or a speech of I have a dream I'm talking about the entire from the black power movement civil rights markets Garvey noble drew Ali

The entertainers, all of it.

Our youth have no knowledge of black history overall.

And here we are 30 years later.

And there's a trial of someone who some look at as just the entertainer and others look at as a leader.

But at the end of the day, for a specific generation,

I want to be clear about this, and I don't speak for everybody, but I'm speaking for me and my people I know that understand.

Pac was really the last artist we had who actually stood for his people.

He was the last artist we had where it was okay for someone to look up to an artist.

Why does that matter?

Because all of these babies, you know who these kids look up to?

NBA young boy.

Ask them.

You can go to any school right now and majority of the youth who are 20, I'm gonna say 14 through 20, maybe 12 through 20.

NBA young boy, Lil Durk, King Von, these are all of the entertainers that they grew up watching.

These are the entertainers that they want to be like.

So when we talk about,

Why is this important?

We need to be, this is the perfect time to instill in them what it means to be a young black man in this country having a backbone and standing for something.

And that's exactly what we have to do.

We have to make sure the information that's being provided is correct.

Y'all keep hollering.

We don't know what to do with these kids and da da da da.

Yeah, look at the rappers that they're growing up to.

the rappers that they growing up to are the opposite of a Tupac Shakur and you can say that it don't matter if the parents fought at the end of the day it's all of our fault if y'all want them to stop mimicking what their favorite rappers do then teach them about entertainment or an entertainer that don't represent that what is the point of having history if you're not going to teach it

This murder trial is the perfect time to teach them about this part of our history because to us it seemed like yesterday This happened in 1960s kids wasn't born until 2012 I Was sitting in the class today, and I'm like when was y'all born?

2011-20s what what I was still making music and it hit me hold on they don't when you talk about the early 90s these kids equate that to us

thinking about slavery.

That's how long ago it is to them.

This is, if you was born in the 80s, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X was assassinated 20 years, maybe 15 years before you was born.

I was born in the late 80s.

They were assassinated 20 years before I was born.

Tupac was assassinated 20 years before these kids was born.

Take a pay attention to that analogy.

That's how far removed they are from history.

That's how far removed they are from people of Who represent something like that and if anything it make me feel old.

I'm not even gonna lie When I'm sitting here thinking about it, I'm like hold on a minute.

Y'all was born in what year?

Man, that was my prime.

I was in my early 20s and these kids was born

In 2011, 2012, that is crazy.

So if you haven't paid attention to the two-pod case, make sure that you pay attention to it and watch this unfold.

This is going to be happening for six weeks.

We got to go to break.

When we come back, we are coming home.

I'm talking about to Wisconsin, man.

We got hit with some serious storms, some trees.

I didn't see all types of footage.

Tornado warnings.

Yesterday's brother Z was like, hey, your phone about to go off, show enough.

Tornado warning.

And here I am, like, oh, let me go home.

It's nothing, man.

Take shelter now on text and full effect.

Listen, let's talk about it when we come back.

It's your girl, Jazz Tyler.

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true.

If

you are dealing with property damage, trees that have been uprooted or no electricity, I truly, truly hope that you are safe.

Yesterday, I know it was a lot happening.

Severe storms moved through southeast where it was constant causing damage and a lot of outage.

outages.

And this made me think about Gary and the Anna too.

The past week they haven't had any water due to flooding, right?

And a lot of times, and I was joking before we went to break, but the truth be told, right?

We live in Wisconsin.

So we automatically, you know, know for the inner city that we are not subject to tornadoes.

Growing up.

Every time it was something like a tornado warning this typically happens on the outskirts where there's more land, right?

We've never really experienced a lot of tornadoes or anything like that and if it is a tornado warning We don't take it as serious because we know subconsciously that a real-life tornado in our minds is not going to die through the city of Milwaukee Well, we was in a station yesterday and I was finishing up wrapping up the show.

I said almost seven o'clock

Brother Z said, hey your phone's probably gonna start going off and show enough you get the tornado watch take shelter text and I'm like Okay, you know I seen it was supposed to be some thunderstorms later on cool whatever the case may be Then I received a text from my mom like hey it's going down over here y'all good over there.

I'm like hold on a minute

And my mama text me that mean is serious And I'm telling cuz I call my mom about everything if my mama takes me telling me that something going on We're asking me something that means that something is serious So now I'm like calling my children up.

Hey, where are you?

Well, you know, this is happening.

That's happening.

I Pull up home Pull up in my garage

My entire patio set flipped upside down one chair in the neighbor's yard the other chair and I'm like Hold on a minute now.

I know when I left this patio set was together Right.

It was all the way together.

So either somebody came Chris for Friday came over here knocking over my stuff or The winds was so powerful to where it actually picked it up

And that scared me that made me feel away because again when you look back at The tornado that tornado warning and tornado on top of the flooding in April and then everything that happened last summer I Think it was in August right me and my best friend shout out Shanika We went to Chicago and we stayed there overnight for a Kiki Palmer event

And that's when the floods was happening here and coming home.

And I'm like, yo, this, you know, obviously it's not as large as like a hurricane Katrina.

But the fact that we are receiving so many natural disasters with tornadoes and flooding, um, has me wondering, right?

Obviously, we know climate control, uh, all of that stuff, they're messing with the environment.

But the purpose of living in the Midwest for a lot of people is to avoid these natural disasters, such as the flooding and so on and so on.

So when we take a look at the past five years and analyze how many times we've been through tornadoes in the inner city, tornado warnings, flooding, all of that, it has increased a tremendous amount versus anytime before that.

And it's like the more.

Every time another year come, it seems as if it get worse and worse, which means that it almost sound like we have to prepare a little bit differently.

So where we used to, you know, hey, in school, going to basement, do a tornado drill, fire drill, all of this stuff.

That was preparation, but nobody took it serious, right?

My sister sent me this book.

Shout out to my sister, Katrina.

She sent me this book that is like a survivor's guide.

She didn't order gas masks.

I said, girl, it ain't the purge.

She didn't order gas masks all the time.

The book has all of that in there.

And it had me wondering now, I need to step my game up.

I used to have all of these things.

But in the event, just like a month ago, when the electric was out and 40,000 people were impacted, I was one of those people.

My electricity went out at 4.30 in the morning, didn't come on to 7.30 PM.

And if you have health issues or if you have elders that's on oxygen tanks or if you have youth who are children who take nebulizer machines, this impacts them.

So in my mind, I'm like, okay, boom, I know for a fact that y'all can say whatever y'all want.

Yes, I'm irresponsible for not having a generator.

That's because I ain't no man in my house.

I don't think about stuff like that.

Now I do.

Now I know jazz you gotta you gotta have a couple generators After this yesterday, it's like okay.

I need to make sure I have a plan in place for my children I have two adult children who are young adults that move freely as they you know, please but the more natural disasters that start to happen here Yes, you have to prepare with materials, but you need to prepare your family

You need to prepare your children that in the event something happens and they're not with you, especially if they're young adults What they need to do in the event they can't reach you.

Where can they go?

A lot of these children don't even know how to get around this city because they use GPS Truthfully so in the event something another flood like last year happened or tornado come in an inner city What is your plan for you and your family?

You have to have a plan set in place somebody like me I'm gonna have a certain plan set in place for safety But most definitely for food because I'm greedy.

I love to eat You got to have a plan set in place because obviously Wisconsin is not playing when it comes to the natural disasters and since we talking about natural disasters I don't know who's responsible for this but listen Y'all got to start making some of these winter days

Considered as a natural disaster because just because we're in Wisconsin and we're used to the winter time do not mean that school shields to Students should still go to school where we still have to go to work when it's negative 10 degrees outside That is inhumane if pipes are busting and so on so y'all still think that we supposed to give up and live a regular life No, we got to do something about these winter these winter days because again every year it seems as if

is getting worse and worse.

Now, funny part, who is the meteorologist in your family?

Because everybody got one.

Mine is my mama.

I promise you, it doesn't matter what the new, my mama is going to tell, she gonna predict what the weather is day in and day out.

My mama's 60 and she about to be 68.

So she get up early in the morning and she watch the news and she talk to me like, oh people, hey, the news said it's supposed to be this degrees.

today the news is supposed to be this is supposed to be that but the reality is we can never depend on not only the meteorologists on air but our fake meteorologists in our family either because this weather keep doing what it want to do it keep doing it keeps doing what it wants to do right and nothing exposes your storage habits faster than a tornado warning

You finally run downstairs and you surround it by Christmas decorations from 2007.

You got all types of Christmas decorations in your basement, broken televisions, old paint, exercise equipment that ain't being utilized, old boxes that got all types of cores.

And you just in the basement sitting here looking at yourself like you ought to be ashamed of myself.

I ought to be ashamed.

To have all of this stuff down here, uh, throughout all these years, knowing that going well, I'm not going to utilize it.

But why jokes aside, again, if officials issue a tornado warning for your location, please take shelter.

Don't risk your life trying to get a video or thinking like, oh, it's just Milwaukee.

It ain't really going to, you know, do nothing or it's not going to come through here.

Um, get to a basement, right?

Or a tub.

You know what I'm saying?

Get away from the windows, whatever the case may be, have a plan set in place for you and your family.

Because when I got home and I seen how my patio was all over the place and then I started to see the videos of, we talk about big trees, 100 year old trees uprooted from the cement.

I don't know if y'all seen that video circulating on Instagram, but that was insane.

Now can you imagine sitting in your house and the trees just fall over on you?

on your house, on your car, right?

Or because, and then you sitting there like, oh, I'm not taking it serious.

No, we have to take it serious because it's showing us time and time again that the weather and the environment in Wisconsin is changing and we have to be prepared.

We got to go to break after the break.

I want to set up.

where we were going at five o'clock.

One of the people in the Milwaukee Drug Investigation works inside of the Milwaukee County court system.

The headline sent my mind somewhere else, right?

You can have a car, a degree, a house, benefits and excellent credit and still have a type that can potentially disrupt everything you have built.

Ladies, I am talking to you.

We are separating the actual criminal case from the broader relationship conversation.

That's next.

Do not touch that dial.

She girl, Jazz Tyler.

When you say you love me, it doesn't matter.

It goes until my head as just chit-chatter.

You may think it's niggatistical.

One-on-one point seven in truth.

It's your girl, Jazz Tyler.

You are live and direct with the award-winning one-on-one point seven in truth at the beautiful Third Street Market Hall in downtown Milwaukee.

Hey, listen.

Before we get into the actual case set five, surrounding the lady who worked 30 years at the Milwaukee County Courthouse and was arrested, I want to establish something, right?

We talk constantly about building, build your career, build your credit, build your business, buy property, protect your reputation, network, make good decisions, right?

But there's another decision that can affect all of those things.

What decision is that?

Who you choose to attach yourself?

too.

And I don't only mean romantic partners.

I'm talking friends, business partners, relatives.

Everybody doesn't get unlimited access to what you've built, right?

Adoha teaches you something uncomfortable.

You can make every right decision personally and still be affected by somebody else's decision.

If you've given them enough access.

to your life.

So we're going to start with an actual Milwaukee case involving a Milwaukee County courts official who has been charged in connection with an alleged drug trafficking place.

Charge does not mean convicted and we're not going to invent facts about somebody else's relationships.

So I won't mention her name, but I want to talk to the professional women who are attracted to men who are still connected to the street.

We gonna talk about it because no matter what you say you know somebody I promise you do you know a social worker you know a teacher you know a nurse oh the nurses love street guys right you know some woman in a professional field who loves to deal with men that dabble in and out and let me be clear at the end of the day

A man from the streets and a man still in the streets are not necessarily the same One describes a background the other describes a current life and when I say streets, I don't automatically mean I don't even want to use that term because people are going to automatically assume that being in the streets mean that you are doing something illegal That is not the case right and I'm most definitely not here to promote nor

You know, bash anybody who has to get it how they live because I don't have the money to pay your bills, man.

I don't have the bread to take care of you and your family.

I don't have the money to feed you.

So I can't tell you how to live your life, right?

But let's start with the facts and be responsible.

So.

Everybody hear me clearly.

I'm not about to create a love story around someone else's criminal case.

I do know the dynamics of their marriage.

I'm not saying her husband allegedly conducted, you know, drug activity or whatever.

I'm going based off of what the news say.

At the end of the day, some of us, and I'm talking to the ladies specifically, some of us have two completely different resumes.

a professional resume, a degree, director, vice president, business owner, home owner, good credit, retirement plan, LinkedIn, Immaculate.

Then we have the dating resume, right?

And what ends up happening is your friend say, why do you keep messing with him?

Look at you, you a nurse, you didn't want to degree, you got your degree.

Yo credit good everything that you keep talking to this man that lived his life And I don't ask that I don't say that from a place of judgment Because attraction isn't a spreadsheet.

You don't get a master's degree and suddenly your body says from this point forward I am only attracted to accountants

Right?

But there is a legitimate question underneath the humor.

When you spent years creating stability, what responsibility do you have to protect that stability from the people you allow to close to you?

How important is it for you to protect that?

Right?

And what I mean by that is sometimes, well, they say you could take the girl out the hood, but you can't take the hood out the girl.

And I'm guilty of that too, right?

I've gotten a lot of better, but I'm still a girl from 14th and Berlai, a woman from 14th and Berlai to be exact.

And what happens is a lot of women who have, now this is my opinion, a lot of women, right?

Who have certain professions in our, in certain careers, especially black women.

We don't necessarily, not all.

But there are some of us We don't necessarily care if a man entertains another type of life Especially if we're married to them because it's something about them and where they come from that makes us Comfortable and what I mean by that is you can be a professional right you can have a bad woman you can have it all together and Then you can start dating a man who has a degree like you

who's in a fraternity, who has great relationships, is a CEO, owns his own businesses, so on and so on.

But if that man has not been through things that you have, or if he doesn't come from the same type of environment that you do, then it's going to be hard to have a relationship because he cannot relate to you.

There's something about, and again, this is my personal opinion.

No matter what profession I am in, there is something about a man who can relate to my struggles and the things that I've been through, which makes it easier for me to want to date him because there are certain things that he knows without me having to tell him.

I don't have to tell him how to protect me.

He knows how to protect me.

I don't have to tell him that the bills need to be paid or that I'm not doing 50-50.

He just automatically knows how to do it.

And I'm not saying that every situation is like this.

So if it don't apply, let it fly.

But again, I am speaking from my own personal opinions.

I'm giving you guys my personal opinions.

And what happens is when you, again, I'm not trying to dictate their relationship because I don't know.

But imagine getting a job at

the courthouse.

And you've been working there for 30 years and throughout these 30 years, you're married as well.

You was with this man before you got in the courthouse, working at the courthouse.

You with this man while you working in the courthouse.

And half of the times, truth be told, a lot of some women don't know everything that they man do.

Some do.

I'm not naive, but some don't.

And again, if you come from that life, you know why, because what you don't know won't hurt you.

If you deal with men in that industry, they're not gonna tell you nothing because they don't want it to affect you.

If you don't know, you can't tell, you can't say nothing, you can't snitch.

But imagine being married to this man all these years, and he's still doing whatever he's doing, and you've built a professional career.

Are you still obligated to walk away from him somewhere within that 30 years because he chooses not to live the life that he probably should?

Meaning that if you have a certain type of profession, then maybe he should too.

And that's not to say that he don't.

Again, I don't know.

But imagine being in a marriage for 30 years.

Do you then walk away from your marriage if your husband does not upgrade his business?

to be on your level, quote unquote, because are you measuring it based off of money or off of a status?

Money does not equal status.

And I think oftentimes we get trapped in that mentality.

I have a profession.

I'm doing this.

I'm doing that.

My man got money, whether he's getting illegally or illegally, which means he's on my level.

No, baby.

He's not.

If his goal is not to get out of the streets to own a business, then he's not on your level.

You cannot equate money with status, no matter how you put it, right?

So when a professional woman says, I like street dudes, what does that actually mean?

Confidence, protection, directness, sex appeal, excitement.

Somebody who isn't overpolished.

What does it mean because sometimes miss mr. Corporate does everything right?

He'll send you the good morning text.

He'll send you the dinner reservation.

He opens a door Baby, he got health benefits in dental benefits and vision too He has a retirement account and she's somewhere calling her friends saying girl.

What do we do?

I don't know girl something missing

I'm guilty.

I am guilty, right?

Tell me I'm lying.

Somebody tell me I am lying, especially if you a woman who was from Milwaukee that grew up in the inner city.

You can have Mr. Perfect, but if he don't got that little rough edge-ness around him, or if he don't got a little bit of street in him, then you don't want him.

Because you're afraid that he's not going to be able to relate to you Meanwhile somebody else Sends three letters and no punctuation at midnight.

You got somebody texting you who got all this money and Y'all been together or y'all haven't been together, but he don't even know how to put no and no You don't know the difference between KNOW and NNO, right?

He got to read with his finger.

He got to read with his finger

He don't understand certain things, but he got a lot of money and he gonna protect you.

You're not wrong either.

You have to do whatever works for you.

But again, at the end of the day, we have to stop putting ourselves in positions to lose everything we work for because we are comfortable.

And I'm not telling nobody to end their marriage.

I'm not telling you how to get it.

Get it how you live.

But if your guy is still doing that, and he ain't got no plan to escape after all these years, then baby, you bought as slow as him.

Because what is the end goal?

Ain't no way I didn't build something up for me and my family for it to be taken away over something I may or may have not had nothing to do with, right?

We gotta go to break when we come back.

We are going to finish this conversation with your girl, Jazz Tyler,

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We

are talking about the Milwaukee County Courthouse case where the alleged worker has been arrested in connection to some legal activity, I guess, with her husband and her son.

And we were talking about allowing other people to destroy what you built, right?

And again, I don't know this woman.

So I'm only using this to get you guys to understand something because I don't know her situation to its entirety, but I do see often times things like this happen because some people are not adjusting the way that they should be, right?

So before we went to break, we were talking about women who have a certain type of profession, whether you are a doctor, a nurse,

You know a teacher whatever the case may be and you still choose to deal with men who are in Quote-unquote the street life and I don't like to necessarily say the street life because every man that's in the streets ain't doing nothing illegal I know it sounds crazy, but if you know you know But let's make up let's make this clear right at the end of the day some people are attracted to chaos because chaos feels like chemistry and if you spent your life around

Things that are unpredictable, no stability, right?

You're going to take this as something that's fun and exciting instead of, I'm sorry, something that's safe and boring.

Anything that's the opposite of chaos and confusion, right?

So sometimes we confuse confidence with danger.

Sometimes stability can feel unattractive when you are used to intensity, right?

And does professional success change your lifestyle without changing your romantic type?

So here's the counterpoint.

Are we unfairly calling some black man street?

because of the closed speech, tattoos, neighborhood or background.

A man can have an edge and still have a business plan.

A suit does not automatically mean safe in a hoodie.

Does not automatically mean dangerous.

What am I talking about?

I am talking about the fact.

And again, if this is not you, if it don't apply, let it fly.

But you know somebody that knows somebody.

A lot of women who have professional careers tend to date men who don't have necessarily the same type of professional career.

And a lot of times it's because there is a disconnect.

And what I mean by that is, we become comfortable with men that we don't have the question, if something go down, will you have my back?

Right?

If I need my tuition paid, I know that he can pay for it.

If we lose everything today, I know that he got it in a bank account.

He hasn't in his bank account to take care of us.

It becomes this hood love story, this Bonnie and Clyde story of, okay, my man in the streets, I'm gonna pay my girl tuition for her to go to school so that she can have her job.

50% of the guys still do what they do and the other 50% if they smart, they'll invest in a business so they don't have to continue to do what they do.

But for whatever reason, a lot of women, not even just women that come from the inner city,

majority of the times they don't even be women like me it be the stuck-up women the ones who never had it bad their entire life who are attracted to men who still have a certain type of lifestyle and again the question is are you willing to put yourself in a situation to lose everything you work for because he makes you feel

Like he can protect you without having to ask or because he got money because y'all can take vacations whenever y'all want.

Yeah, it's going to end somehow some way though.

And if you're not careful, you're going to be a part of it.

You're going to be a part of it.

So yes, success can change your lifestyle without necessarily changing the type of people that you like.

Some of y'all got a man right now.

He's staying at your house.

He using your car.

He leaving things at your house.

People he connected to know where you stay at.

And guess what?

If something happened, your dog getting kicked in.

Your door is going to get kicked in and you will fool if you think that you ain't about to be a part of it.

I don't care if he told you something or not.

If you have children, you should never want to put your kids in that type of situation.

Again, I'm not telling you what type of relationship to have.

I'm not telling you that if you've been with somebody for 30 years and married, and this happens then to leave them, I'm simply saying, if you choose to deal with a man like this, you better have a backup plan.

But most importantly, if y'all been married, if you've been working somewhere for 30 years, and y'all been married for however long, and they still doing whatever they doing,

You've just as much as a problem as you Ain't no way I'm going to the plan is to Exit stage left.

I don't know what generation people come from I don't know who raised certain people but when I was growing up in Situations like this the goal was for everybody to stack and do what they got to do based off the circumstances because a lot of times again

Women, we have this type of compassion and grace and understanding for our black men because we understand what they go through, what they've been through, we understand when they walk outside that door, what they have to face on a daily basis.

So yes, we are going to be a little bit more compassionate, especially if they are guys that come from the streets because to a certain degree they need us.

Doesn't mean we have to put up with certain things, absolutely not.

I am no longer the woman at this age who was going to ride or die for you.

I'm not dying for nobody but my kids if I need to.

I'm not riding for you if where we're going don't make sense and you don't even have a plan.

Some of y'all out here riding around on E with this fool sitting next to you.

Spending your tax money.

Hiding his drugs and whatever else inside your house and you just key came girl.

He just bought me this Louis bag girl We bought the girl to Jamaica and Dubai girl.

Yeah, and you about to go right to jail with his ass, too You show Liz because you think it's huge and you don't have an exit plan Y'all don't know where y'all going y'all just caught up in the life

Don't have a go don't have a plan you just with somebody who just like to have money looked like they got money spend money Still doing the same stuff because they're addicted to having that fast lifestyle no plan in place Meanwhile, you didn't allow him to pay for you to go to school And you're over here with your degree in a professional career and you at work Let's say you were nurse you at work and now the feds is at the hospital about to rest your butt in front of everybody

Whether you had something to do with it or not So again, this is not bashing the men who live these type of life because baby I understand I Can't I can't put food in you and your family mouth.

I can't tell no man how to go get it but to my sisters out there and to my brothers if You are a person who has been in you know, you were dealt the cards that you was dealt

And you gotta get it how you live.

Baby, go get it how you live.

I don't know what that includes, but hey, again, I can't pay your bills for you.

But I'm simply saying, think about the people around you.

Think about the risks that you put them at.

You should have a backup plan.

There is no reason why some of y'all should still be doing the things that y'all are doing.

It doesn't make sense.

I am not.

At 38 years old, I'm not willing to risk everything I built for, for love.

I'm not.

If we not on the same page, oh well, it's plenty fishing to see.

But no man is going to put me in a position to be a taken away from my family and my children.

over because we've been together forever long and I love him.

And I'm not saying that I will go and tell on him.

What I'm saying is I'm not putting myself in that situation to begin with.

I'm not putting myself in that situation at all.

I don't care how much.

Again, I'm gonna be honest.

I am or was one of those women.

I am currently going through that process of changing my ideology based off comfort.

I'm being transparent right now because I do.

The men that I am attracted to, they have to come from the struggle somehow.

Otherwise they won't understand a woman like me.

Otherwise they won't understand why I grind the way I grind, why I work the way that I work.

They won't get it.

And even if they do, it's still going to be something about them that makes me feel like they don't get it.

But the key word is me.

That's something that I have to deal with.

That's something that some of y'all have to deal with too.

There are some really great men out here who don't live that type of life, right?

And I think oftentimes we psych ourselves into believing that that means that we're down or that we're loyal.

No, that means that you're not putting yourself first.

And it shows who you are.

Because if I am, if I was to deal with a man like that, not to say that I do or have, but if I was to, baby, listen, you gotta have a plan.

You have to have a plan set in place.

Otherwise, the entire empire is going too far.

It's going too far.

So you got this man at your house, he feeling like he could do whatever you all together.

But who address is this house who address does this house belong to?

Right, what type of neighbors do you live around?

Where do you work at?

How much access does the people he's affiliated with have to you as well?

What type of business relationships do y'all have are y'all in business together?

This is another thing

Y'all be so quick to deal with these kind of guys and Then start all these businesses now you you ain't got to be married to him.

You're married to him legally You're attached to him through business Which means that you are still attached to him So whatever happens to him more than likely those people are going to come beating down your door as well

We're gonna finish this conversation when we come back from break.

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If you are just now joining us, we are talking about the

professional woman who still dibble and dabble with the street life the men in the streets from the streets from the streets about the streets And again, I hate to utilize that term because every guy that's from the streets is not involved in the streets and we all know The history of this country we we know All the work that has been put into making sure that it is extremely hard for black

Black men and women too have a family and get forward.

So that's one of the reasons, in my personal opinion, why women are a little bit more compassionate when it comes to dealing with a certain type of man who may not have the same or similar profession as her.

But there's also a level of comfortability.

There's also a level of...

you know, happiness being with someone that you don't have to wonder if they're going to protect you if something go down or that if anything happens, you know, they got the finances to make sure that you are together.

And just the fact that, you know, if you come from a broken home or a certain type of environment, just really, you know, having someone that you can relate to a lot of times, a lot of these relationships be trauma bonds.

A lot of your favorite hood couple, that's a whole trauma bond.

Some make it and some don't.

But again, it's just the level of being comfortable.

And the question isn't whether you are better than somebody.

It's whether your lives are compatible enough to the point where their current choices don't threaten your current responsibilities.

So, and again, and for the men too, it's not just about women.

Professional men can make the same mistake with the people that they date.

But we are centering this around women today because there's a particular cultural conversation around the accomplished woman whose romantic preferences may not mirror her professional environment.

Y'all know the story, the ride or die, the hood fairy tale, right?

How much are you willing to sacrifice for love or for your relationship?

If you are a woman who are in these type of situations and you've been with this man for so many years and he chooses To not change or not like something.

Yeah, don't make sense The goal is or should be to to build something to where you don't have to worry about being taken away from your family Some people don't even have to they just choose to because they're addicted to it.

They're addicted to the lifestyle Right

And again, I'm this portion and majority of what I was talking about before the break isn't aimed directly at the lady in the courthouse situation.

I'm just using that situation as an example because I don't know her situation.

I know that apparently she was working there for 30 years and she was married and someone must have told on her and her house got raided and her husband and son went to jail, right?

We don't know if it's what the exact details are, but...

We all know women who have professions, nurses, right, teachers, whoever, that still deal with a certain type of man.

And at the end of the day, you know, truth be told, I'm not here to judge anybody.

I've said it multiple times throughout this show, you know, get it how you live, I can't feed you, I can't tell you how to eat, right?

where somebody comes from does not determine where they are going.

People can change, people mature, people come home from prisons and have legitimate lives.

From prison to have legitimate lives, you know, they become fathers and business owners, right?

So I'm not asking what he did at 19.

I'm asking what he's doing at 39, at 49.

Not where did he grow up?

How does he live now?

Now, does he have tech tools?

Does he bring chaos?

Does he not does he know people in the streets?

Is he actively participating in that lifestyle today?

And ladies your degrees does not require you to suddenly be attracted to a man and loafers holding a golf club because baby, let me tell you That ain't yeah, that ain't it sometimes either sometimes they are the worst I'm simply saying that

You can love somebody without giving their lifestyle access to everything that you've built.

You can love somebody without giving them access to everything that you've built.

So if, if you are in that type of situation again, everything is built on how loyal you can be.

If you a rider dying, so on and so on.

Hey, I love you.

I got love for you, but you don't have to get it together before you come on up over here.

I'm not going to judge what you got going on, but you got to get it together because I have children and nobody's going to take me away from my children or I have a profession.

Nobody's going to destroy everything that I've built.

This is this is what it means to choose you first while hopefully motivating him to get his stuff together.

And again, I'm not saying that this applies to the woman that we're talking about with this court, I'm just saying.

Her criminal case should rise or fall on actual evidence, not assumptions made on the radio.

This has nothing to do with the facts of the case.

I'm just using this as an example, right?

Because this is a harsh reality, especially when it comes to black women.

This is something we don't talk about.

And I love my black men and I don't judge them and I understand everything we've been through and I know you got to get it but have a plan man and Part of that plan should never be put in your people and when I say your people I mean your spouse if you know you know Part of that plan should never be putting your people in a situation to where everything they work for falls Part of your plan should be making sure that your family is protected

And a lot of us, especially if you grew up in the inner city, because again, I was, I'm from 14th of Burlai.

I wasn't on the sidewalk.

I was in the streets.

I'm not saying I was in the street activity.

I'm just saying, I gotta say that.

I gotta give that disclaimer.

I gotta give that disclaimer.

I'm saying that I grew up around that environment.

While there are many uppity black women who think they're better than women like me and women like you and There's uppity black men who think they're better than the men who are listening who can relate I Understand I Know what it's like not to have nothing to eat growing up because my mom is doing the best that she can as a single parent

And I don't mean going starving it could be something as simple as we got to eat cereal for breakfast lunch and dinner I know what it's like to have to heat your house up with an oven I Know what it's like to have to give your siblings hand me down I know what it's like when you are the matriarch or the patriarch of your family and you have to take care of everybody Wow being oppressed put in put being put in a situation

that forces you to do the stuff that you don't want to do.

This is the environment that the government created for us.

So I'm not here to judge nobody by how they get it.

I'm simply saying we got to do better as a people.

They've already put us in positions multiple times to make sure that the black man is not in the household with the black woman.

This is 2026.

There are so many opportunities for people to be CEOs and business owners.

Even if you don't know how if you are that guy that don't know how pay you pay her tuition let watch her let her cook Let her cook and help you along the way It reminds me of that episode on power when ghost really wanted to get out the streets and Tasha was mad and she was so mad at him She wouldn't slept with the what's the name after he was sleeping with Angela now condone him sleeping with Angela

But he was tired.

He said, hey, enough is enough.

I just want to live a regular life with my family.

I've done, I got everything I want, a penthouse, whatever.

And fellas, I'm saying this because sometimes it do be the woman.

It's not just one-sided.

Sometimes it do be the woman because it's cheaper to keep her, baby.

It's cheaper to keep her, especially if you're all married.

That's how they think, right?

It's easy.

I ain't gotta deal with the BS.

I ain't got she know too much.

I ain't gotta worry about it.

All I gotta do is put her up That again that does not make it any better So the broader lesser is about access Love does not require you to surrender boundaries chemistry does not require you to gamble with stability and Somebody's past deserves room for growth, but they're present

deserves your attention.

We have to make better choices.

Period.

It's just certain things I'm not doing.

And I, listen, I got a thing for that thug passion.

You hear me?

I promise I do.

It's something about a confident man that know his business that still come from the hood.

But guess what?

If you ain't got your together,

Baby them boundaries going up because I didn't work too hard to get to where I'm at I'm too grown of a woman to be playing with fire.

Oh Yeah, that's cute girl.

I love me somebody that yeah, he little pistol starter Maybe I got kids at home.

I Got a daughter in college My son is an adult in a nine-year-old.

It's certain things that my children cannot be around It's a certain life

that my children are not my nine-year-old for sure ain't accustomed to anything like that.

I had her at an elementary school that was, you know, predominantly black.

She's used to a diversified environment, right?

But I had her at what, and she lost her not because it was of the skin, but because of the behavior.

Hey, I can't focus, mom.

All they do is yell in class, and everybody's yelling and fighting, and I can't focus.

She about to go crazy.

And here I am like, yo, you need to be around the people.

You need to be around our people, black people.

You need black, you know what I'm saying?

Culture and da, da, da, da.

Meanwhile, she's suffering.

There's certain things that my children are not used to being around and yours shouldn't be used to being around either.

Period.

We gotta go to break.

Um, the final segment of this hour, I'm flipping the entire conversation.

Maybe the question isn't again, whether a professional woman can data stream man.

Maybe the real question is, is he from the streets or is he still in them?

Those are two completely different things.

We are closing there.

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She has had you are officially tapped in my brain moving fat mob moving faster than my brain trying to laugh at brother Z All types of stuff are going on but listen Yeah If you are just now joining us we are talking about well, I mentioned the courthouse situation of the woman who was convicted based off of

apparently drug activity with her husband and son.

We were having a conversation about women in a professional world.

Why a lot of women who have certain types of professions are, I'm going to use this term strategically.

Why are certain women

especially black women who are into certain in certain professions addicted to men who are involved in illegal activities and This is no judgment.

This is not me talking about this woman marriage because I know nothing about her marriage or anything like that.

This is me saying hey at the end of the day

What we're attracted to is one thing, but what we need is another.

And if you don't have the discipline to set boundaries in relationships like this, then you don't have no business being in the relationship.

I'm not encouraging you, however, to go and date someone of that profession, right?

I'm simply saying.

Sis, throw some boundaries up and choose you.

And if you really doing your job, he should not wanna be doing that anyways, because he understand what comes with it.

Now, for those who are just joining us, I have to say this, before they try to chew me out, I'm not here to tell nobody how to get it.

If you know me, you know I know.

You know my heart, you know all of that.

I understand what my brothers have been through, right?

And I give you grace, but let's be real.

and let's hold ourselves accountable ladies because at the end of the day some of it has nothing to do with the fact that oh he got to get it how he live it's regarding the fact that he's addicted to the lifestyle he want the fast money it's cheaper to keep her and and you're addicted to it too because some of y'all wouldn't know what to do if you left him and went to a regular guy who just had a regular nine and five because the money ain't coming in fast enough

And you're willing to say, hey, yeah, babe.

Pay my tuition.

Spin that.

Spin that.

Right?

What they want to do, Zee?

Every time we have situations like this, it ain't just one-sided, yeah?

You want the school and got your tuition, but at the end of the day, what do you want him to do?

You want him to break that money.

You want him to spend that money on you.

Because you've become accustomed to that lifestyle You've become accustomed To you become accustomed to the things that he buy you You want to go to Dubai on a vacation?

Right you want to have the big house you want to drive that Benz?

You want that $400 wig?

You want that Louis bag that everybody named mama already got?

Your kids got to go to school with Jordan's and K4 Knowing that they need some type of other type of shoes because they gonna wear them out Everything is about the look Everything is about the look you're so busy saying hey, I'm not willing to let him go because I want him to

Do what?

Come

on.

What?

Yeah.

So y'all just women, y'all are guilty too.

You are guilty.

And no, this is not a conversation that's popular.

A lot of people ain't gonna want to talk about it.

But hey, it's a harsh reality, right?

It's a harsh reality.

So I'm going to reiterate this.

You can love somebody without giving their lifestyle access to everything you've built.

That's the distinction.

A man from the streets has history.

A man in the streets has a current lifestyle.

Know which one you are dating.

And again, I'm not saying that this has nothing to do with the lady at the chorus because I don't know.

I'm just using this as an example.

Right, I'm using it as an example We gots to do better and if don't nobody hold us accountable I'm gonna hold us accountable Because at the end of the day it is heartbreaking it is heartbreaking to Work your way up out of the hood if that's where you come from sis Beat the odds go to school get a degree even if you don't go to school to get a degree

just being able to make it in the profession that you are in.

And because you like this type and you're accustomed to a certain life, you are willing to risk it.

I like men.

I am attracted to men who used to be in the streets.

It's a difference because they understood, A, it wasn't, it was by design.

B, I can't do this forever.

I have to have something that I can leave my family a legitimate business.

Y'all still out here with men that's active.

But you call yourself a professional.

And then when it all comes down and it blows up, you lose what he lose too.

Who's protecting you now?

way you can tell me that somebody love you if they put you in a situation that could cost you your freedom and take you away from your kids.

And yes, you do know what you getting yourself into in the beginning.

But again, I'm not telling you how to eat, how to live.

I'm saying that we got to do better as a people.

Every day they are spending their lives continuing whatever plan they had years ago to make sure that we don't have two parents in the household to make sure that

We send our black men back to prison because that's where they make money off of them being slaves.

We have to do better.

We have to hold ourselves more accountable.

If you have a type, have that type.

I like the thug passion too.

He ain't got to be thugged out.

He got to have a little something in him.

Again, I'm all burly, baby.

But I'm a professional first.

I'm a woman first.

I'm a mother first.

I'm a daughter first.

I'm the oldest sibling first That has to come first I Worked too hard to build what I have to let it go because you still you're addicted to a certain lifestyle The day at a certain age you can't say

Not even really at a certain age no more.

Again, there is certain circumstances.

Trust me, I didn't hurt at all.

I can't get a house because I'm a felon.

Guess what?

I know some private landlords right now that won't even do an application fee or application in general.

I can't get a job because I'm a felon.

Man, you know how many grants they have for second chances?

I know people right now that did 30 years in prison.

That's one in nonprofits.

No excuses.

Ain't no excuses you're doing it because y'all love that lifestyle and then you're in your being greedy You want your girl to have the profession while you go and do what you want to do, but you're not protecting her and Ladies you're staying with him because you've become accustomed to the lifestyle and somehow some way you figure hey, I Don't need no boundaries.

This is just what it is.

Okay, so then

Maybe you are okay with your life potentially you maybe you're okay with the feds potentially knocking at your door too I'm not So I I don't put myself in those situations I Don't I'm not put myself in a situation to lose everything I built or to be taken away from my babies Because I want to prove I'm a ride or die

Or then I'm down and I'm loyal.

I'm gonna prove I'm a ride or die by making sure you got your business together.

I'm gonna prove I'm a ride or die by making sure that you ate.

I'm gonna prove I'm a ride or die by making sure your your work clothes is armed before you go to work and that your lunch is packed and that your credit is the way that it needs to be.

That's what makes me a ride or die.

Not me going to jail taking a charge for you or being wrapped up in the foolishness that you got going on because guess what?

When the money stop baby who gonna take care of who you can't take care of me if we both gone to jail And you can't depend on nobody cuz your mama gonna say yeah, I need to pay my rent didn't mortgage this month, baby Y'all know how dumb a dull boy mamas be they be the first love

I know baby.

I need to pay my mortgage mama got to pay her mortgage is my mama gonna get whatever she wants She want a brand new house car my mama come first.

I'm a mama boy.

That's my mama I'm a bar whatever she won't meanwhile you sitting down there and walk a shop Kenosha, Milwaukee Facing charges Man if you don't get on up out of my face She girl jazz Tyler we got to go to break do not touch that dad when I want point seven the truth