Palantir, Get out of Here

I ain't about to be playing them type of game.

Cause I already know what it is.

Something's feeling off Too quiet in here, where you at?

Don't hide Keys at the table, I'm calling your name No reply, now I'm feeling the way Walk to the room, heart-switchin' pace Soon as I look down, yeah, everything changed Tryna play it cool, but I know what it is Ain't no way I'm mistakenness Those

ain't

my shoes, under the bed

Those ain't my, got me in my head Don't thinkin' again But I know I ain't blind

Who

been layin'

where I

lay?

Who been callin'

you

fake?

Those ain't my shoes Under the bed Don't even try to

way from me now it's making sense yeah it's all too crazy yeah gotta sin in the air I don't wear in that size right there yeah that ain't

fair

pick them up yeah I know they ain't mine now you got me questioning all this time trying to play it cool but I know what it is ain't no way I'm mistaken this those in my shoes under the bed

Don't even try to explain, yeah Tell me straight All them lies just to keep me in place I gave you time I gave you space You gave my spot to somebody

else,

lord Damn You ain't even gotta say nothing cause I see it

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What's up?

Milwaukee, it's your girl, Jazz Tyler.

Shout out to, um, Joa Tucker and Brad Fax, two of my, uh,

Two of my guests today, I've known Joy for a long time.

I've known Brad as well.

They're doing some amazing things out here.

Make sure you chop it up with Brad, purchase some of his merch with Principal as well as Courage Under Fire, his book, and stop down to Dream Lounge Social on MLK Thursday through Saturday from 7 p.m.

to 1 p.m.

Shout out to both of those brothers.

Again, this has been an amazing conversation.

I want to take it to Something else really quick.

So I don't know if you guys follow me on social media if you don't It's on Instagram is the jazzy effect that's jazzy ie EFF ECT but basically I've been Putting out some commentary right some videos my pens based on what is happening with

MMSD, Palantir, the data centers, and the fact that we are requesting that they shut it down, right?

Primarily because Palantir is a company that works with ICE, so we don't want it.

Well, apparently, as of today,

It seems that Jacobs has officially announced that they are no longer working with Palantir.

So a Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewer Sewerage District Committee has recommended Jacobs solutions for roughly $700 million tenure wastewater operations contract.

Community criticism has included concern over Jacobs corporate relations with Palantir.

Advocates have said Jacob's indicated palace here will not be involved in the mmsd Work so that means that hey Hopefully they stick to the plan.

Hopefully This doesn't happen because we always know we know from Past situations that they like to switch and bait, you know, they'll say we're not doing this within turn around and do it

Um, as well.

So we've already talked about the controversy, right?

Today's question is different because a purpose has moved when a community raises ethical concerns about a company, how much should those concerns wait against price qualification and performance?

Um, if Palantir will not be involved in the Milwaukee contract, is that enough to address the concern?

And should public contracts be judged strictly on costs and performance or should the company's other business relationship matter?

for me it does and Whether or not, you know, they're working with Palantir That's one half one side of the comb of the coin.

So yes, we don't want them working with an organization that is Working with ice, right?

Because to me that seems like they're paying to surveillance evidently So even if they drop it the other fact remains that we don't want a data center, right?

People throughout this entire state has talked about this multiple times even in the election So I don't know if you guys have been seeing Tom Tiffany obviously went from Badger and Kong to Badger and Crowley and now he's coming at Crowley about the data centers But he has yet to tell the public where he stands when it comes to data centers, right?

Um, and when you read the comments and when you hear the citizens of the state of Wisconsin talk about the data centers, um, they're constantly saying, Hey, we don't want it, right?

So yes, we, we don't want them working with Palace here, but the other half is also saying we don't want the data centers at all.

And at the end of the day, the reality is these people in positions are going to make whatever decisions they feel like they need to make, right?

History has shown us that history has proven that so I think we're in a spot where we have to not conform but just been a little bit to figure out What do we get out of it, right?

So if the data center is actually happening and if they're saying hey, we're not going to not have them Then what do we the people get out of it, right?

And I'm not talking about the broken your promises for example when Walker was in

office with the Foxconn, that when they came to Wisconsin and all of that, we need real life information.

We need real life scenarios.

We need real life opportunities.

How can the citizens of the state of Wisconsin benefit off of a data center coming here?

What do we get out of this, right?

And also how much transparency should taxpayers receive before hundreds of millions in public money are committed?

Because nine times out of ten, and this is coming from someone who has worked in politics, the decision has already been made.

So a lot of times when they say, hey, we want to have a public meeting, right?

When I have a town hall to get the community's opinion on what it is that

We should do with X amount of dollars the decision has already been made They're not telling us that but they made the decision a long time ago behind closed doors.

So now they're like Making it seem as if we're actually included and we're not so I I true honestly believe that

We have to reach a point where somebody has to be truthful about what is going to happen.

Otherwise, we're going to find ourselves in a situation where we continuously elect the same people who tell us, you know, give us false hope.

And then when they get elected, they do something completely different.

We got to go to break.

Do not touch that dial.

She girl, Jazz Tyler, one on 1.7 of truth.

One-on-one point seven the truth that should grow jazz Tyler.

We are live and direct If you are just now joining us I was talking about the fact that Jacobs announced today that they are no longer working with Palin tier When it comes to these data centers, however, that does not mean the citizens of Wisconsin said we want the data centers.

We still don't want them 700 million dollars apparently is going to be awarded to Jacobs

They were in a bid with another company who were charging, I believe, $400 more, which is why they were awarding it to Jacobs, but I think in the agreement they stated that.

they couldn't work with Palantir because there was so much pushback from the community.

You're going to see how the rest of this is going to play out.

I am going to suggest that whoever you choose to vote for in this election, make sure you pay attention to this.

If you do not understand what is happening when it comes to the water system, when it comes to the data centers, please research this and make sure you research whatever candidate you are supporting to see if they are truly going to keep their word, right?

if they're going to listen to the sentences when we say that we don't want any data centers.

So the license plates, reader cameras that you see around Wisconsin apparently can help solve crimes.

But what happens when someone with access misuses the system?

How much privacy are you willing to trade for safety?

For me, none.

A Wisconsin law enforcement case involving misuse of flock license plate reader technology has renewed questions about access, auditing, and privacy.

So technology obviously can help, you know, the law enforcement locate stolen vehicles, missing people, suspects, all of the above.

But the bigger question is what safeguards exist when someone with authorized access uses that information for an unauthorized

purpose.

Should officers have to document a legitimate law enforcement reason every time they search a plate?

Should every search be automatically logged and audited?

What consequences should follow the misuse of surveillance databases?

Do license plates readers make you feel safer or more watched?

and who should have access to location-related vehicle data and for how long.

So, there most definitely should be consequences.

If I'm not mistaken, this specific officer who was misusing the surveillance database was going through some type of issue in his relationship with his ex or his current girlfriend.

I believe it was his ex.

And he started to use this database to keep track of if I'm not mistaken her,

And or whoever it was that she was dealing with so this case is ironic this case is This case is insane because that is stalking that is harassment and What do you do in a situation like that when someone?

Uses their force obviously this isn't nothing new is just a different level.

We've seen officers use illegal force

Right on citizens, we've seen them involved in scandals.

We've seen them being paid off.

Recently, I believe this was last year where a former officer of MPD was being paid off to give information to apps.

So he would, somebody would pay him from this side of town who had beef with these people to get information or to set it up.

There's all types of things.

That's happening, but the even bigger question is the privacy Last week you guys probably seen all over the news that a lady who vehicle was previously involved in a homicide investigation But had later been released was stopped in the middle of traffic in the highway Cops put her over guns blazing right it looked like a scene off of John Wick crazy

only to find out that her car had already been removed from the investigation.

And this spiral, and this happened because of the flock camera system.

It's almost like the, what do you call those cars, right?

Technology in general.

The cars that, they don't have them here, but I've seen them in Arizona in different states that drives by them waymos.

That's what they call waymos.

The cars that drives by themself.

And when the GPS or the satellite does not connect correctly to the car, when there's construction or things of that nature, the car begins to spin in circles at roundabouts.

It goes down the opposite way when incoming traffic, all types of things, right?

So this flock system, remember, it's technology.

It does not know.

It doesn't have information inside of the database that says, hey, this vehicle with these license plates were removed.

from this homicide investigation.

All it's doing is reading the license plates.

The issue is whoever is controlling the database, the fact that nobody removed her information from the investigation.

And if they did, they have to figure out a way to document it or to code it to where it doesn't cause a scene the way that it did.

That is dangerous.

Can you imagine?

Can you imagine if

That woman was put over by all of those police officers and she was put over by trigger happy police officers over a flock system that made it inaccurate assumption that this vehicle was still currently involved in a homicide investigation.

Now fast forward again to the fact that you have officers who are utilizing this system.

for their own personal needs.

That is scary.

Especially when we know Wisconsin and Milwaukee has a history of police harassment.

Black men, right?

Seville Smith, that wasn't just a random situation.

They've had interactions before.

We have a history of police harassing men that they don't like.

So for someone to have this information and access to this and be able to harass or look up whoever because they're bitter about a relationship Not not only do you suspend them you take the badge because bro, what is you doing for real?

What are you doing?

And this happens time and time and time again, this is scary the the and we know we've seen it

The robots, the technology, all of that.

The fact that they are doing everything possible to make sure that we don't have privacy.

We don't have privacy on our phones, right?

I don't know about y'all, but I never activate Siri on my phone.

I don't activate Siri.

I dang near don't even like smart TVs.

I feel like the cameras probably can see stuff.

The fact that you can look up something because everything is connected, right?

Have you ever been on Google and you search something and then you hop on Facebook or Instagram and that advertisement pops up as you're scrolling because everything is connected.

When we get these smartphones, we never read the terms and conditions.

When there's an update, we just click install now.

We never read the update.

We never read the stipulations.

We don't read anything when it comes to terms and conditions and technology because it's a lot.

But when you actually dive into it, you have to start paying attention to how much of your information people or the government or whoever has access to.

Now, I know there are some people, because I'm one of them, who's like, there's nothing we could do about it.

They're going to do whatever they want to do.

We have to figure out how to maneuver around it, right?

But the harsh reality is, every single day we are losing privacy.

Every single day we don't have full control over our lives.

We have them watching us.

They're watching us on social media.

They're listening to us on the phones.

Sure, they're listening to us on the smart TVs.

Right now you have, you even have the dag on a robot cart, little carts that deliver food.

When I seen that, I was like, what is this?

Driving on the street and it's a cart, a robot cart, with food delivering it to someone.

You have drones.

Amazon is now using drones to drop off packages.

The flock system, everywhere you go, we are constantly under surveillance.

It's starting to feel like the iRobot movie, any of those movies.

This is really starting to feel that way.

And the fact that you have officers or people in these positions,

who have access to this and how that's like the world dumbest criminal because why wouldn't you think someone can access and see that you logged in to this?

Like how dumb can you be?

The fact that he had access to this system to track whoever it was that he wanted to track is a problem.

The fact that there is a system set in place that can scan license plates.

and send officers, not one, not two, not three, not four, but five, squad cars to stop a woman in the middle of the highway because the flock system stated that her car was involved in a homicide investigation, even though it was currently no longer involved in that investigation.

Guns blazing.

It's dangerous.

It is dangerous.

And we the people did not ask for a flock system.

That's lazy work.

Do your job.

If you take care of the core issues, you won't have to worry about a flock system.

Take care of the core issues of the people and stop bypassing it with technology.

Every time there's a problem.

Oh, there's high.

It's too much crime.

We don't have time.

Let's put cameras up.

Let's put a flock system up.

You know how many times I don't roll down the street and see the police doing absolutely nothing and they may be tired to I don't know but I'm just tired of them putting funds in technology Remember, it's technology is not real.

It doesn't have human senses.

It cannot dictate right from wrong You're constantly pouring money into technology to try and catch quote-unquote the bad guys and girls

But you're not invested money into the core issues of the people.

Invest the money into the issues that we're truly facing, right?

Prevention, solutions, so that we can stop or we not stop completely because it'll never be done, but so that we can reduce the crime.

So that we can reduce the crime.

If you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't care about surveillance.

Is that true or false?

False.

I don't want nobody in my business watching me 24 seven.

That is weird.

The fact that we have this is weird.

All of it is weird.

All of it is weird.

We got to go to break when we come back a Wisconsin court ruling involving Milwaukee County and money connected to the common school fund Then we are ending with the positive story about scholarship investment issue girl jazz Tyler do not touch that dad one on 1.7 the truth One on 1.7 the truth that should girl jazz Tyler we are live and direct in

Here's a story that probably doesn't sound very exciting when you first hear it.

Traffic tickets.

Traffic tickets.

The Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office and something called the Wisconsin Common School Fund.

But stay with me because underneath this story is a much bigger question.

Can the government take money that the Wisconsin Constitution says is supposed to be used for one purpose?

and redirect it towards another person, purpose, even when that second purpose is arguably very important.

Because that's essentially what happened here.

And a judge has now said no.

So here's what actually happened.

In Wisconsin's 2025 through 27 state budget, lawmakers created a special provision for Milwaukee County.

Now, normally Wisconsin counties send a portion of the money generated.

by certain fines into something called the Common School Fund.

Historically, counties have been allowed to retain 50% of qualifying fines while the other 50% goes towards the Common School Fund.

But Milwaukee County received a special exemption.

Milwaukee County was allowed to keep 100% of certain state traffic fines.

Why?

The money was supposed to help maintain funding

for 12 assistant district attorney positions in Milwaukee County after the federal pandemic relief money support in those positions expired.

We are talking about roughly $2.2 million per year.

Over the state two-year budget cycle, that's approximately $4.4 million that otherwise would have gone into the common school fund.

Now listen carefully.

because this is where this gets interested.

The problem wasn't necessarily that the prosecutors don't need the money because they do.

The problem was where did Wisconsin get the money?

What is the Common School Fund?

This isn't some new government program created five years ago.

The Common School Fund goes all the way back to the creation of Wisconsin in 1848, right?

So today, the fund helps Wisconsin public schools purchase things like library books, educational materials, digital resources, and instructional technology.

And in some Wisconsin school districts, this can be especially important for libraries.

So the Common School Fund distributed approximately $70 million statewide in 2025.

So this is simply Milwaukee got to keep some traffic ticket money.

So the question is, did the legislator take money dedicated to education and redirected it to somewhere else?

Here's where Milwaukee's problem come in.

Milwaukee County wasn't trying to spend this money on something frivolous.

That's important to know.

The county needed to maintain prosecutor positions.

They weren't simply 12 brand new jobs, someone dreamed up.

The positions had previously been supported by the Federal American Rescue Plan Funding.

That funding expired.

But the need for prosecutors didn't disappear when the federal money disappeared.

So Milwaukee County faced a very real question.

How do you keep these prosecutors working?

The state budget came up with the solution.

And instead of Milwaukee County sending its normal share of qualifying traffic fines to the common school fund, Milwaukee County could keep all of that money and use it for the DA's office.

So from a budgeting standpoint, somebody might say that sounds reasonable.

But is it?

This is where it gets complicated.

I want to hear from you.

A three, three, two, one, two, one, zero, one, seven.

A lot of people aren't even familiar with the common school funding.

And I think that this is something that should have been talked about during the forum, quote unquote, debate.

This is something that should be discussed a little bit more often, especially if someone is getting a break.

So if we're in a situation where the county gets to keep the money instead of giving 50% to

the common school fund, then that means that is a part of, if I'm not mistaken, the issues why MPS don't have funded, library books, educational materials, digital resources, so on and so on.

If you follow the money, you follow the problem, right?

It's time to follow the money.

So the issue actually went before the Wisconsin Supreme Court more than 50 years ago.

The case was state ex-rail commissioners of public lands versus Anderson.

The legislator had previously allowed counties to retain part of their fines and the Supreme Court basically said the legislator has some flexibility in determining what constitutes the clear proceeds.

In other words, the Constitution doesn't necessarily mean every penny collected from a fine has to go into the school fund.

Counties have legitimate expenses associated with collecting and prosecuting these cases.

But the Supreme Court also established an important limitation.

The legislator couldn't allow counties to keep so much money that what remained for the school fund became essentially nominal, right?

That means that that's an insignificant amount.

So now think about what Wisconsin did in Milwaukee County in 2025.

The state didn't say Milwaukee keeps 60%, or Milwaukee keeps 70%, or Milwaukee keeps 80%.

It said Milwaukee could keep 100%.

What does the Common School Fund receive from those particular Milwaukee County fines?

Zero dollars.

Zero dollars.

Officials with the Board of Commissioners of Public Lands recognized the obvious constitutional problem back in 2025.

And as their executive secretary put it, zero is less than nominal.

So Milwaukee County School Fund in 2025 received zero dollars.

Zero dollars.

The Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty challenged the Milwaukee County exemption and now a Walker Shaw County Circuit Court judge has ruled that the provision violates the Wisconsin Constitution.

So they got some beef.

They got some beef.

And that's where I think the story gets much bigger.

School versus prosecutors.

Ultimately, that's what this is.

The money that's being accumulated from traffic fines.

And a certain percentage is supposed to go inside of the common school fund has now created issues where it's schools versus prosecutors.

I don't think that's the correct argument.

We need school libraries and we need prosecutors.

Those two things shouldn't have been placed against one another in the first place.

Think about how strange this arrangement is.

We are effectively saying.

We have a problem funding prosecutors, so let's solve that problem by intercepting money designated for education.

Why should these two things even be connected?

Because a person like me, I'm not saying I'm a conspiracy theorist, but we all know about the prison pipeline.

Connecting school funding to prosecutors is insane to me.

We have a problem funding prosecutors, so let's solve that problem by intercepting money designated for education.

Gotta make it make sense.

If Milwaukee County needs 12 assisted district attorneys because its criminal justice systems needs additional prosecutors, then let's have a debate about that.

How many prosecutors do we actually need?

What should they cost?

Who should be paying for them?

Should Wisconsin provide additional state funding?

And what should Milwaukee County contribute more?

Those are legitimate questions.

And it's interesting because I haven't heard anyone talk about this.

That's why I wanted to talk about it.

It's not taking shots at anybody or anything like that, but the more I pay attention to the elections, the more I see people talk about education and funding and all of this stuff.

the more questions I began to have.

And again, a lot of us had never heard of the common school funding.

Didn't know it existed, didn't know that 50% of the traffic fines money goes into the common school funding.

And that is used for places like MPS or libraries, for educational resources, books, technology.

Right stuff that teachers need and that students need and they're saying that the common school funding in 2025 received zero dollars Because it went to prosecutors Did y'all hear me according to The sources fit the money that was supposed to go to the common school funding to take care of

Books etc inside of the school systems They didn't receive it and went to the prosecutors and I get it.

It's a lot that's happening here It's a lot that's going on not just in the state of Wisconsin, but throughout the city of Milwaukee So how do we find a better solution if we're talking prosecutors funding prosecutors versus school education like Come on wish

You have to choose between one of the other.

Ultimately, that's what this has come to in the city of Milwaukee, the county of Milwaukee.

It has come to a point to where they have to decide with this specific funding, the common school funding, are we going to utilize the funds to employ prosecutors or to fund educational needs?

That was, the goal was, well, not the goal, but evidently they chose to pay the prosecutors.

And where does that put us?

The DA's office has roughly 120 assistant district attorneys and around 160 support staff according to reporting on this dispute.

So you can absolutely argue that Milwaukee needs are different.

We're gonna talk more about this when we come from break do not touch that dial should girl jazz Tyler one on 1.7 the truth One on 1.7 the truth it should girl jazz Tyler we are live and direct at them

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Um, listen, before we went to break, we were talking about the comment, the wisconsin common school fund.

And I was explaining exactly what that is.

A lot of people are unaware of what the wisconsin common school fund is.

So basically in 2000, the Wisconsin 25 to 27 state budget lawmakers created a special provision for Milwaukee County.

Normally Wisconsin County sent a portion of the money generated by certain fines into something called the common school fund.

So historically counties have been allowed to retain 50% of qualifying fines while the other 50% goes to the common school fund.

but Milwaukee County received a special exemption.

Milwaukee County was allowed to keep 100% of certain state traffic fines, right?

The money was supposed to help maintain funding for 12 assistant district attorney positions in Milwaukee County after the federal pandemic relief money supporting those positions expired.

So that's $2.2 million per year.

which ultimately equals to four point four million dollars that otherwise would have gone into the common school fund, right?

So the common school fund, how does that work?

It was established inside of the Wisconsin Constitution and today the fund helps Wisconsin public schools purchase things like library books, educational materials, digital resources and instructional technology.

And in some Wisconsin school districts, this can be an especially important source for library funding, library funding.

The Common School Fund distributed approximately $70 million statewide in 2025.

Milwaukee got to keep some traffic ticket money.

Did you hear me?

Milwaukee got to keep some traffic ticket money.

So the argument is should they be allowed to take funds that were supposed to go towards the common school funding and pay for positions such as 12 district attorneys and apparently a judge says no because it is unconstitutional not to mention MPS apparently

MPS apparently benefits from this funding.

So this is raising all types of questions, right?

They're saying 50% of it is supposed to go to the common school funding, but apparently in 2025, they didn't receive any funding, right?

Then MPS is saying that they don't have funding.

But then they're also benefiting off of the common school.

It's all over the place.

We need answers.

Basically, what I'm saying is we need answers because what it looks like is the school education versus prosecutors positions.

And someone had to choose.

Do we find schools or do we find prosecutors?

And yes, Milwaukee has more caseloads.

Yes, we have more crime than a lot of the smaller towns throughout the entire state of Wisconsin.

We get it.

But.

How do you make the decision to pay prosecutor positions versus funding the school?

I have yet to hear anybody talk about this at the forums, at the debates.

And I'm not saying this to take shots at anybody.

I'm not saying this to call anybody out.

I am saying it because we need to get to the bottom of it.

We have a real problem down here with the education system.

and we need to understand where this money is going.

When you walk into some of these schools and you see the books that they have and the turnaround time for teachers and so on and so on, it makes you wonder, what happened?

Follow the money, where is the money going?

Now we didn't follow the money and apparently it's going to the DA office.

Apparently it's going to the DA's office.

Again.

I could be wrong.

It could be, you know, layers to it and I'm sure it is, but that's why I am speaking about it.

I am speaking about it because we need answers and we need to understand everything about the Common School Fund.

All right?

I got about five minutes left before this show end.

I want to shout out Sandra Dee.

She will be joining us tomorrow.

If you grew up in the city, especially in the 90s, you know exactly who she is.

She was the baddest of the baddest when it comes to beauty, when it comes to being a beautician, all of that, right?

And I'm extremely excited to speak with her.

Also, this Saturday is Truth Family Fest.

And I know y'all hear the commercials.

I know y'all hear us talk about it all the time.

But I'm not sure if you guys understand that we will be there live and direct.

We will be airing live from the Fest at Riverside University High School, which means that you guys get a chance to come out and meet us in person.

So if you have it, you get a chance to come and kick it with us, talk to us, exchange some resource information, and hopefully, you know, we'll receive a lot of families who will come.

and kick it with us as well.

I do want to see y'all there.

And if you have resources and you were not able to obtain the vendor's table, please still come.

There's families, it's for the youth, it's for the babies.

There's families that will be there who can benefit from resources, even if you don't have a table.

Come, bring your flyers, bring your business cars, right?

Come and have a good time.

We'll have some performances as well.

It's gonna be exciting.

is going to be exciting.

So pull up this Saturday.

I was sitting here laughing because as I was talking about this, I was listening to Ray... Ray Nitty on a lunch break today and he was telling y'all, if y'all wasn't listening, he was telling y'all a story about when he ran for office.

So for those who don't know, I ran for office in 2223.

Ray ran for office in 2324.

And when he was running for office, he was running for a downtown against...

bought Ottoman Baalmen.

And Baalmen decided, I think Baalmen thought he was on a Goodfellas or something.

He started having people follow us around, all types of crazy stuff.

And you know, it is what it is, it's politics, right?

But the funniest thing of it all is this man's wife.

This man's wife

is- Told you.

Insane.

Is this real?

Yeah, because we have like, yeah, that's test right now for it.

It's a test where it's

actually... Well, I mean, not even, not test, but alerts.

That's what this blue light is.

Tornado warning in the area until 7.30 p.m.

Y'all know what that mean?

That mean I'm about to go home.

That mean it's time to go.

Listen here, Troop Nation.

I truly appreciate y'all.

Thank y'all so much for tapping in.

Make sure you join us tomorrow morning with the legendary Homer Blow and Bailey Coleman, followed by Sharon Hughes, Ray Nitty at the Lunch Break with Maybe Shannon, The Great Vine, and then double back to your girl, Jazz Tyler.

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Take shelter if it is a tornado.

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Better cuff your girl, because I hear the lick.

Them country girls fine, and they hella thick.

The ladies poppin' fast.

But baby, can you pop it on me with no hands?

I said it's like a kicking down southern doors.

You say you got him from down to now, 55.

But baby, it's your familiar with 69.

It's more like a plan.

I'm a Mac, baby.

Once you hook, you was too.

Here's a rap, baby.

You're just the right height, and you're my speed.

I'm only here for the nights I want to spend.

She got them cakes,

baby.

I'm down for whatever.

Let's have some fun.

American Family Insurance Studio in the beautiful heart of downtown Milwaukee.

Shout out to the chat.

Ken, what's the word?

Jazz West Peace.

Just had an amazing interview with my dear brother Brad Fax.

We had some great conversations surrounding incarceration principle, which is his clothing brand as well as his book Courage Under Fire.

If you are not familiar with Brad, please make sure you support him.

He is an amazing brother Someone who has been a part of the community for quite some time shortly here.

We will have

Joa Tucker joining us after the break.

But there's a couple of things I want to touch on that Brad actually spoke about when it comes to mass incarceration.

And primarily because, again, we talked a little bit about it yesterday with the youth who was at State Fair.

But it's something he said that made me realize that our youth today do not understand what consequences are.

Peace, Erin.

Great afternoon.

The youth today are not familiar with consequences and they don't understand that that either they don't understand that their actions have consequences or They feel like they have nothing to live for and the reason why I say that is because There was a comment Brad made in this conversation.

So he was he stated that he was incarcerated

at the age of 15 and 97, which is during maybe three years after the crime bill, during Clinton's second election.

And there were obviously a group of people who were also a large groups of black men who were also a part of the mass incarceration period.

But I asked him a question of how he felt during that time.

And was there any moments where he realized like, hey, because I did this action or I made this action?

I'm going to be sitting down for a long time.

And he said that he remember like not taking it serious, like not that he thought it was a game or that he was, you know, playing with his life, but more so of the fact that he did not take the, the consequences serious.

It didn't hit him.

He didn't recognize that the actions that he were, that he had done was going to force him into a situation.

to where he would be sitting down for 17 years and three months and when I look at a lot of the youth in the state that they're in today It made me realize that either they don't They really don't understand That every reaction has a consequence and every action has a consequence or they feel as if They're not even going to live long enough to have a life

Whatever the reason is is one of the two and it's scary Especially if they feel at this young of an age that they have nothing to live for right We all make mistakes as teenager.

We all have done things that we probably shouldn't have especially If our mom or father whoever it was was telling us that we had no business doing something but we was curious and we did in any ways but the difference between

our generation and theirs is we always felt like we had something to live for and we never stopped dreaming.

And a lot of these youth, I feel like they don't foresee a future for themselves, right?

There is no hope, which is why they continue to act the way that they do.

And by the time they get to prison or by the time they get in that courtroom before a judge, um, sometimes it hit them and sometimes it don't.

But we gotta figure this out.

We gotta figure out a way to help them continue to dream, but also help them understand that there are consequences for your actions, right?

To sit down from the age of 15 and get out at 34 is mind boggling.

That's your entire 20s.

That's 17 years of your life that you can never get back.

And I really, really hate to...

Say it, but it seems like a lot of our youth They're headed down that path and if it's not down that path.

It's a down is down another path That you know, we know what that other option is So again shout out to my good brother Brad facts for joining us today that was

Great information.

I love a great testimony as well.

And to any youth that is listening, I truly, truly hope that you are able to take his story and apply it to your life wherever it fits and understand that you don't have to be in the same situation, right?

There are people around this city who has been in prison for 15, 20, 30 years and for the past 10 years.

they're all coming back home and they're making something of themselves, but you don't have to take that route, right?

You need to link with these brothers, the Ed Hennings and the Brad Facts, right?

Link with these brothers and gather information from them so that you can make something up out of yourself.

You don't want to go down the path to where you have to sit in front of a judge and be facing 10, 15, 20 years.

over a 20 second decision that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

So again, shout out to my brother Brad Fax.

Shout out to all of the men and women in the youth who are currently locked behind bars.

We have not forgotten about you.

And I don't know if you're all listening on the inside, but keep hope, you know, keep living, keep your faith.

And when you come home,

Do the damn thing.

Get busy, right?

Get your stuff together.

Start a business.

You know, reach out and try and mentor other people so that they don't make the same mistakes.

So look, we are about to take a quick break.

We have another special guest, Joel Tucker in the building.

Do not touch that dial.

It's your girl Jaz Tyler, 101.7 of truth.

That's your girl, Jazz Tyler.

We are live and direct.

Hey, Milwaukee, listen.

When Milwaukee hears Joe Tucker, many people immediately think UWM, the historic Sweet 16 run, professional basketball in the Hall of Fame.

But today I want Milwaukee to meet the businessman, real estate, great grass, MKE, dream lounge social, dream social lounge, or is it dream lounge social?

Dream

lounge social.

I had a right.

Ownership and legacy.

Joe, welcome.

Thank

you

for joining me.

Man, I'm really excited to be here with you.

Obviously, we met in another life some years ago.

So it's amazing to see all the things you've done.

So congratulations on being on the radio.

You too.

Doing your thing on your own.

And it's a beautiful thing to see.

Thank you, Joey.

You too.

And congratulations to Yanise.

I know she invited me to her trunk party.

I know she headed off to college now.

I'm so proud of her.

Super.

I'm so proud of her.

So.

We all know, we know you from basketball, we know you from sports, all of that stuff.

Prior to becoming a businessman and having a successful basketball career, who is Jova Tucker?

Tucker

you said prior to prior to ball or what you're talking about.

Yep.

So prior before all of the accolades.

Yeah, I mean before that really just a kid from Milwaukee, you know, I think like the rest of the most of people listening man, I grew up on 60th and get hope in that area come from a two-parent household.

Super fortunate to come from a dual parent household, but really just a kid from Milwaukee with a whole lot of dreams.

Yeah.

Do you ever feel Milwaukee sees the basketball player before they see the entrepreneur?

for sure, but it's my job to create that separation.

I had a basketball talk, obviously we're gonna talk some basketball while I'm here, but I had a basketball talk with anybody, and I'm only gonna talk so long, we gotta talk about some business.

We did that a long time ago, I cannot...

I am not who I am without basketball.

So I respect who it is and what it was for me and what it did for me.

And I entertain any conversation because it was a fun time.

It was a great time.

But we also got to talk about, you know, what I'm doing now if we have a proper conversation.

Absolutely.

So with the basketball career, right?

How are you able or what happened during that time to say, hey, I want to pivot from this and.

do business or go down a different business venture?

I mean, it's crazy we having this interview right now because it's some things that have been happening just recently that just really make this conversation super important.

And it's like, I feel like to be a sports star or to, you know, excel at anything that you do, you got to dedicate your life to it.

You know what I mean?

And I think what happens with so many people is they dedicate their life to the sport or the game or whatever it is they're doing.

And then when it's time to...

to do something else, it's real hard to pivot.

Man, I was super fortunate to be able to get into real estate before I stopped playing.

When I was still playing ball, I started making some money and I was making good money playing ball and it was really about, I wanted to figure out how to make that feeling last.

I was living a good life.

I was starting to get used to a nice lifestyle.

So I really thought about how can I make this feeling last and I started buying properties.

So I tell people it's not like I was the smartest person ever.

I had some bread.

And it was during the housing crisis.

Yes.

And banks, you know, banks had houses they didn't want.

I had houses that, you know, I wanted to buy.

So my niche was buying, you know, buying foreclosed properties from the bank.

Yeah.

And it really was just like a great marriage.

Yeah.

I mean, they needed something.

I wanted something they had it and they wanted to get rid of something.

So it worked out real well in that sense.

Fun fact, I think I was your first tenant.

Was

your first property the one on Buffham and Locust?

Buffham, the second career by boss.

So you was up there?

The second one.

So almost.

Nah, you was up there for sure.

So I mean, like I said, that's why it's full circle.

It's awesome to be here.

I seen when you got the job and all that.

So just like I said, I can't get you enough.

Congratulations.

We met another life, you know?

So sitting here across from you on Truth Radio is real fire.

That's dope.

So real estate, what did purchasing your first property teach you?

First, before I do that, I gotta shout my pops out.

All my uncles, all my bloodline, my uncles on my daddy's side all do real estate.

So coming up, I used to cut grass and paint and do all type of stuff like that.

And it really,

I

never thought it was gonna be my job.

I never thought it was gonna be my gig.

So

really, I'm second generation landlord and really it's in my blood.

And I

didn't even know it.

So I always thank my pops and all my OG uncles.

This is the way I feed my family now.

And I never knew when I was 10, 12 years old, soaking up game that that's how I was going to feed my family and provide for my family.

So, man, really dope.

What did you say was your questioner?

What did purchasing your first property teach you?

Man, I bought my first crib on Mighty Key in 2009.

I

bought a

condo, then I bought my first real estate investment property.

And I really, I was green.

I didn't really know how to gain, worked in terms of pricing and interest rate and all that.

I just jumped out the window.

I

had

some bread.

I saw a crib, it was nice.

I ran into an amazing realtor.

I used to work with named Ashante.

She

was

amazing, she helped me a ton.

Just really giving me game on how stuff worked.

But I

bought a crib, I just ran the numbers.

I always been a numbers guy.

Numbers

always came clean to me, so I knew what I was buying for, I knew what I was paying monthly, and I knew what I was gonna be bringing in from the wrist.

It was really just a numbers game at that point, and I didn't really know what I was doing.

But I used to play Monopoly.

I know it worked out.

You buy a crib, you rent it, you pay your mortgage.

I had the basics down.

I learned everything after that on the fly.

Yeah.

So fast forward.

You purchased your first home or your first property in 2008, right?

2008,

yeah.

OK, so fast forward about 17 years later.

or maybe 16, you purchased Property in Brownsville, which is now the dream line of social.

Yeah, I mean, so again...

Just just this whole journey been amazing to now be in you know in a historic King Drive be it in the Bronzeville area and being on MLK I really almost feel like this kind of been my destiny, you know, yeah, it's like that area is It's a renaissance going on down there.

It is awesome to be

a

part of it But yeah to be at about that building I bought it from a family who owned since the 60s bought it from a black family in the oldest since the 60s And I always tell people, you know, we got to be a part like gentrification is a big word people use it a lot

And I think if we do our part, you know what I mean?

We can help.

We can help with all of that.

Absolutely.

You got to be ready.

I tell people all the time, you got to have your file ready.

You got to have your ducks in a row.

You got to have your money together.

You got to be able to go to the bank and go get a deal done.

Absolutely.

If we get to that place, you know, then it'd be less justification because we can be the ones buying and participating in all of that.

That's right.

So for someone who has never experienced it, what is the experience like at Dream Lounge Social?

So Dream Lounge, Dream Lounge is a spot where the adults come turn up at.

I opened Dream Lounge really, I bought the builder and what happened was I've been investing in some spots in Milwaukee for a while.

Just really hands off investment, just something passive, but I've been able to learn a game while doing it.

So when I bought the builder and I really wasn't gonna open a lounge up, I looked at, I talked to a couple potential tenants and I'm like, nah.

I think I'ma just, you know, I try my own hand.

You know, I feel like it'd kind of be less proud, but really I won't dream lounge to be a spot like I have people in from out of town.

You know, when people come in town, they're like, where can we go?

And at this time we're talking five years ago, it was one spot we could go to.

We could go to Brownstone, shout out Brownstone, you know, and now obviously G and those guys and Corey and some of them guys, they've done other spots.

So we have some more spaces.

We

got more

straight out there.

So we have some other black owned spots that's nice to go to, but at the time when I was doing it.

In downtown Milwaukee, it was nowhere

to go.

It wasn't

enough spots to go, because everybody can't go to Brownstone.

So I wanted to create a spot where you could go, go kick it, go get some good music, and really be in a safe environment.

Everybody, my age, or everybody who I jam with, if it's not safe, it ain't fun.

So it could be the most fun spot in the world, but if they shoot guns at the end of the night.

That's no fun to me, and it ain't no fun to most of my people.

So that was the base behind dream.

I was having a spot where people can go.

I

can

take my wife, I can bring my people

in from out

of town, and it'd be a nice spot, aesthetically pleasing.

We really hang our hat on good customer service.

Just really just having a dope spot, a classy spot for sure.

Like I said, really fun for adults to come and hang out, come watch a game, have some drinks, go home, come back and do it again.

Yes, indeed.

So how did you get this name dream?

lounge.

How did that come about?

Man, uh, I don't know.

Like I just got a creative mind, you know, I get off in the atmosphere sometime and just get to creating, you know, I mean, I said in another life, I might be an artist somewhere, but I don't even know where dream lounge came from.

Like I think I was just, you know, trying to create a name.

Obviously we was on MLK and I think a big part of our spot is really.

MLK's dream and I tell people sometimes it sounds like this is no cliche in it.

Yeah dream lounge part of MLK dream is that we have ownership Yeah, you know I mean and no matter what you're doing if you don't have ownership and equity.

Yeah

That's

where the real that's where the big pieces So I think really part of MLK dream was for us to have ownership of equity and really be a convener space that bring all type of people together Dream lounges for the community is for people that look like me and you but dream lounges for anybody who wants to come in and have a good time and jam with the culture Yes, I mean we don't we not discriminate if you like the music if you like the culture We want everybody to come in and it's something for everybody the base of dream lounges really

bringing people together and being a dope spot.

So I've been hearing about the Thursdays.

They said that, Jazz, you got to get on down to Dream Lounge on Thursdays, the 90s R&B.

I've seen it on social media.

Crazy, right?

How intentional are you about the music and atmosphere in the crowd when it comes to Dream Lounge?

I mean, if you listen to you from Milwaukee, you know, we live in it.

we live in a very interesting city.

Yeah.

For everything, you know.

It's a lot of great things about Milwaukee.

And there's

some tough things about Milwaukee.

So when doing business, it's important.

It's a very important formula that you have to be mindful of.

You know what I mean?

I want Dreamlounge to have some longevity.

I want it to stick around for a long time.

And it's very important that we attract the right crowd.

So in opening, we've been open for about a year, a little over a year.

And we've been real intentional about the events that we have, the people that we allow to...

come in, the vibes that we create.

And obviously, really a lot of times the music controls that.

So that is something that we've been very intentional about and also paid a lot of attention to.

For

me,

I know a lot of people in the city.

And I don't tell some of my people, I know everybody not invited to dream.

It's not for

everybody.

And I don't have some people out there who are jammed with who I know that I don't have been cool with forever.

And they've been on the edge where it been a situation where it could be something I'm like, bruh.

This spot really probably, if you can't turn this down in a second, cause this, this is how I'm doing business and you know, you know my resume, you know what I'm all about.

If this somewhere where you, if you come, if you still, if you in Milwaukee and you handle things by fighting dream lounge, not for you.

If an altercation come up and you can't walk away, I'm grown.

I'm not going to wrestle with nobody, nowhere in no city, nowhere.

If you can't handle something by talking or leaving, then dream lounge, not for you.

And we very intentional about that.

I know that's right.

So walk us through the week.

What days are you open?

What day is what happening?

All of the do-you-serve food as well?

Yeah, so we got a Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

Thursday, Friday, and Saturday we do...

R&B Thursdays, which is poppin' R&B.

R&B poppin' it been buzzin' real good.

We got a, we got a great selection of DJs who take real good care of us.

We

got- That's what brothers used to say, you need a

DJ!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We gone, we gone politic with him.

We got great DJs.

We got a great staff.

Our staff's been amazing.

I got to shot my staff out of Dream Limes.

They've been amazing.

So we do Thursdays, 7-1.

We do Fridays, Frequency Fridays on Friday, 7-1.

And then we do Saturdays, Synergy Saturdays, 7-1 same thing.

And obviously we were intentional about that.

time as well.

I feel like that extra hour, that bonus hour, one to two, and I understand I've been, you know, I've been out in the world for a long time.

I enjoy hanging out from time to time.

That one and two is sometimes where things get a little squirrely.

So we try to be intentional about that one o'clock.

We do have food.

I bought a food truck a couple, probably about six months ago.

So we still work on our way through that.

We transition and sometimes we can have it up and running.

You two be continued on the food.

It's back there and we interview with some people for some cooks right

now.

This is your first time in hospitality, right?

Yeah.

What have you learned so far?

Like, what was the biggest surprise?

So, I mean, this is my first time doing it hands-on.

Like I said, I've been investing a couple of the spots for a while.

This is my first time really running the show.

Man, people picky.

Yeah.

People pick it.

I feel like sometimes I get frustrated with it.

It's just part of the business.

But I feel like sometimes people demand excellence from you, but they're not demanding it from themselves, which is crazy.

But again, when you have clients, it's a lot of different opinions coming to your door.

And I'm somebody that's.

By nature, I'm just a positive person.

I'm optimistic.

And you really have to be careful in doing business when you're dealing with, in dream life, I've been dealing with all type of people.

I

gotta deal with the people that work for me.

I gotta deal with the DJs.

I gotta deal with the patrons.

And sometimes the energy that come at you is not.

what you used to, so you got to compartmentalize a lot of that stuff.

So I would say that would be, I'm dealing with more people than I usually, I usually, I'm out the way.

Everybody know the strategy Milwaukee, you stay low, stay out the way.

That's part of my motto, that's how I got to where I'm at.

So now I'm dealing with a lot more people, and it's a lot of opinions and attitudes, and that's good and bad.

It's a gift and a curse.

Sometimes it's real good, sometimes it can be on the other end, so that'd be what I learned in hospitality space so far.

Yeah.

What is the long-term vision for dream line social?

Long-term vision is to be around for a long time.

Like I said, we really want to provide an atmosphere that...

doesn't exist all the time in Milwaukee,

you know what I mean?

So we really want to stick around.

We want to be, with me owning the builder, I always tell people my land lower cool, so I'm not getting put out or anything like that.

But again,

we want to be a spot that stick around for a long time

and

really stay consistent.

Like I said, we came in a game hanging our hat on customer service and being a safe environment, we want to stay true to them, you know, to that foundation.

And then also being a spotlight, we want to...

We want people to come in and have a great time at Dream Lounge.

All are nice when you come in.

And really, it's Dream Lounge social.

I want to emphasize that.

It's a social club.

It's a social club.

We're not doing that.

Social skills.

We're not in there being tough.

It ain't no tough spot.

If you come in, you don't know somebody you want to chat with somebody, you can say, what's up?

Y'all, what's up?

We're off the wind, whatever it may be.

It's a spot where you can, I feel like a lot of times you go on spots, everybody tough, don't nobody want to talk.

We want to be a space to convene.

We want to be a space to network.

We

want to be a

space to share some game.

And that's really my vision for the spot.

One of the early days I was in there, I'm behind a bar.

And I heard some people talking about something about life insurance, something along them lines.

And

I stopped them

like, man,

that's.

That's what I want to hear

getting talked about

like I'm all for sports and obviously I got a sports background I'm for all that and even you know when you add a lounge, you know It's gonna be some other talk going around

just having

a good time But I hope that some some great business relationships

are

made and some connections are made extra resources for sure I mean, that's what it's about.

You know, I think You know, I've met and I've I've built some relationships So I kind of not even talked about the negative but I've built some some business relationships in dream lounge within the space already that it's like

that relationship would not have been built without dreamlines.

So

I don't

have some really dope experiences in there.

I can't even

lie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We got Joa Tucker in the building up next.

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If you are just joining us, we were talking about Dream Lounge Social.

Joa, can you drop the address again?

Dream Lounge is at 1806 North MLK.

Yes, indeed.

So.

The Cross Street is MLK and Vine.

I need y'all to do me a favor.

I need y'all to pull up this Thursday for any day, really, Thursday, Wednesday through Saturday, right?

Thursday through Saturday.

Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

Thursday through Saturday.

You can pull up any day, but we're gonna pop out for the 90s, R&B this Saturday.

I need all my aunties and uncles to come meet us up there so we can have a good time, 7 p.m.