Wisconsin Politics: Unity Breakfast & Election Fallout

Good morning. Good morning. What's happening, family? Welcome to the show. It is Michelle Bryant here at WNOV, 860 AM, 106.5 FM. You are listening to say something real. Can you turn it down for me? Thank you. I guess I'm back. I guess I'm back. But it is...

still a lot trying to recover from everything that has gone on in the last couple of days. It has been interesting watching the nation dissect the gubernatorial primary here in Wisconsin.

listening to the different commentators take on what they believe happened here. I'm going to talk a little bit about that this morning. Look at some of the other races that went on on Tuesday in the nation. But let me say good morning, first of all, to the brothers in the building right out.

Hey, what's going on? We getting closer to the party. Hey, well, you know the party is going down. We getting closer to the party. Hey, it's going down tomorrow. It's going down. It's going down. I gotta go get my hair done. Listen here, man. You don't want to miss it. Listen, if you want to come, it's $25 at the door. Come on down. It's going to be a movie, man. Do you accept Kangas?

I accept my hand over to the ATL. Can I do a donation to charity? On your behalf, do you accept canned goods? Don't make that $25. I like that fundraising component, too. Bring two canned goods. Bring two canned goods, and you can get in for $10. Two canned goods. I'll tell you what. I think you want even better. What? If you bring two canned goods, you can get in for $25.

I was at one better. I'm actually out more with your one better. Yes, that's why you should have stayed in NPA. Yeah, well, you know, well, you know, it's gonna be a party. It's gonna be a movie. It's gonna be a nice evening.

Um, you know, I'll put on your hard bottoms and slacks. I just, yeah. Hard bottoms. Yeah, man. I just, yeah. Hard bottoms. You understand me? Put on your hard bottoms and slacks. Hey, by the way, ready? I read about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He got his just coming into the dough party shoes. Then he got turned up shoes. 10 o'clock when you slide across the floor. You know, then you got the shoes at the end of the night when you'll feed her. So Patty LaBelle do that. Her performances, she had three pair of shoes. The pair of shoes she come out in was used as a nice little heel. Now, two and a half to three inches.

Midway through, she dropped down to that too. And next thing you know, she got them flat so. I didn't know me and dude the same thing. I feel her too though. You know, after a whole lot of dancing and groove and you feel her. Really? Yeah. You know, so. Why do you dance like yours, Jefferson? Hey, listen.

And you know what? None of this sounds appealing. I'm like I'm trying to get mentally in the headspace for the party and you dancing like Mick Jagger is not getting me. All right. Well, let me tell you this. What you can eat all the meat you want.

I swear to God, I want to curse right now. Don't know what the hell I got to do with what we're talking about. I just tried to institute a new rule. No cursing before eight o'clock. But I really want to curse right now. Let me just leave you. Hey, Clark Kent. Hey, anybody but this. Look, anybody but this fool. She said what?

So, Clark, I'm assuming that your morning banter is a little bit more, you know, yeah, regular. I'm still asleep. Oh, you're still asleep. So, you don't have no morning banter. You see Bizzy Court, look, because he was too busy coordinating his outfit last night. Clark would be killing me. I mean, he'd be colored down from head to toe. Clark's like, oh.

green shirt today. That's gonna need that green can go bus to the side. I know you coordinated down to the socks Clark. I know you are. Wait, really down to the shoes. You got the girl. You got the green with the blue swoosh. Get it Clark.

I just hope people don't wear that louse. They don't come into the party loud like, hey, why is your suit yellow than everybody? You know what? He should have whooped Harvey. That was the funny. He should have whooped Harvey after that, because that lives in infamy. And you never, ever thought about.

Loud clothing in the sense of actual sound, you know colors. Yeah. Oh, that was lousy dog, you know, but like he should have killed Carmen. He should have tapped Carmen for that one.

had mics on it or something. You see, and you just going to keep it going. You're going to keep it going. In the South? Grow up, Jermaine. Grow up, Jermaine. Is that Jamie? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman? Is that a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

And Vivian King renamed him Jamie. Well, that could be his middle name since he ain't got one. Jermaine, Jamie, right at JJR, baby. You better believe it, Jack. All right, y'all. So much, so much to talk about this morning. Let me just say, first of all,

We had been hearing that there was going to be a unity event, a unity breakfast. Folks are going to sit down and break bread after the primary election ended. It was something that was coordinated ahead of time. It looks like to be able to quickly.

galvanized support behind whoever emerged from the primary as the nominee. And, you know, we don't want to leave a whole lot of time in between consolidating support, bringing everybody's camp to the table. And so there is a really cool photo that was...

dropped on yesterday. And it is all of the candidates. Kelderoy's, Joel Brennan, Francesca Hong, away, away. Oh, well, I guess all of the candidates that were still left in the race. Kelderoy's, Joel Brennan, Francesca Hong, David Crawley. And then there are other folks in the photo.

who had run for statewide office and were on the ballot as well. Attorney General Josh Call, Sarah Gottluske. I can't see who this is sitting behind Tammy Baldwin. This looks like Mark Pokan, Congressman Mark Pokan, U.S. Senator Tammy Baldwin. And I don't know who this is down on the end. I don't know who she is. And I can't see who is sitting behind.

Baldwin. Oh, that might be Devon Remaker. That kind of look like his hair at the top, the chair of the Democratic Party. But and then DC, if I didn't mention him at the at the table. And so it is a good look. Everybody is laughing and smiling. Cups are raised and folks said in their concession speeches. Brennan and Kelda right out the gate.

We will get behind whoever the nominee is or we will get behind the nominee and we will work as hard as we can form to keep Tom Tiffany from ascending to the governor's office. When Francesca made her statement, it was before the results that come in, but it had a very conciliatory tone.

No matter what the outcome is, we are going to continue to fight for one another. I think her, her, her speech goes down for me as one of the better ones. Just in general, I've heard about how to stay focused and how to quickly rebound after, you know, a lot of nastiness and divisiveness. Oh, that's Diane Hasselman. Thank you. I had no clue who that was. So.

Um, good, good, good start to get out the gate. It will be interesting to see, you know, where the other folks are. If you will see, um, a Mandela barn stomping for anybody, um, although, I don't know if he helped you. Um, I mean, I read a sentence out loud, but I just, I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. What? OK, so I'm just trying to understand. Oh, my God. All this work. So. OK, so they have these campaigns and they go out and they talk about each other, but one person wins and then that person that just talked about you gets behind you and back you. Let me tell you something. When I say, first of all,

politics is some of the dirtiest men. And you know, that's why when you hear people calling the politics, politics is some of the dirtiest mess you've ever seen in your life. And until you get up close and in person to watch how some of this mess unfolds, you just really wouldn't believe it. Um, I think that people have the idea, if you think about it in terms of sports, that when you are on the field,

You're doing everything you can to win. Right. And in some cases, you know, cats have caught some hits that was questionable hits. You know, some force has been used, you know, to sack a quarterback that may not have been necessary. But the whole idea is I'm in win mode. And so I'm going to do everything I can to win when that game is over. Typically.

You can see folks go back to Well, not necessarily you go your way and I go mine, you know, they go back to being okay because they understood To some extent all is fair in love and war the war was You know that battle on that football field basketball court. The war was running for office, but I will always say I Try not to do

personal harm when you in these battles, you can talk about policy without attacking the person. You know, and that's the thing I think that a lot of these people don't understand and don't respect. They they literally take to heart. All is fair and love is in love and war. It's not. That's why we have rules of engagement in war.

That's why they talk about you shouldn't be attacking civilian known civilian territories or spaces during war You don't starve of people because you're fighting the regime and their government. You don't cut off aid And make sure that people can't get access to basic services. You don't bomb every freaking building in the area like Israel did on the Gaza Strip because you're trying to retaliate for

the murders of your countrymen. So there are rules of engagement. There should be rules of engagement. People will tell you frequently, like, you leave people's children out of it when you run in for office. You attack them. You might even attack their spouse, but you don't attack their children. Yeah, so there are some kind of unspoken rules, but it is something to look in the face of people who have

called you everything but a child of God. And not only, you know, came after you on policy, but attacked your personal and moral character. And then you got to smile with these people. But I'm going to tell you right now, David Crawley is doing the same thing. He's smiling right now at people who he know damn well, didn't help him the first time he ran. And you got to just suck it up if this is what you're trying to do and go ahead and talk to these people.

And, you know, shake their hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sure appreciate you. But in the back of his mind, he know damn well, y'all want nowhere to be found. That's right. That's why he had to get out to race in the first place. That's right. So, you know, that's the game. There are some people that decide all the time, I don't want to play that game. Right, right. You know, one of my favorites was that, you know, and I had to learn this working with Laquisha's campaign.

when Lekisha ran for state assembly, the first time she ran for office, and she was running against a 16 year incumbent in that particular seat. Fred Kessler had been in the legislature, you know, much longer than 16 years, but in that 12th assembly district seat, he had been there 16 years, and you had all of these people, many of whom were black that were supporting Fred Kessler that, you know,

And some of them actually stood up. Black elected officials stood up at public meetings, you know, basically letting you know they was rocking with Fred Kessler. And so it was kind of funny to watch that. And then later you got to go back and look at them people like, you know, that seat was created for black representation. And you sitting up here grinning and skinning and cheesing with this dude who only carpet bagged and came and took this seat when he got redistricated.

I can't get it out. When his district lines were drawn differently and moved him out of the seat, he was sitting in. So the other part of that is that then all of those incumbents that are in office while Fred Kessler is in office, they, you know, actively helped to campaign for him and people go after you and they attack you. But then as soon as LaKeisha got elected,

and you walk into the building, you're getting an invoice from the Democratic caucus in the legislature talking about you owe us X thousands of dollars as like your little dues or whatever for the caucus, for the general work that's done on behalf of the Democrats in the Assembly.

And, you know, Lakisha looking at this bill, like, what the hell is this? You know, this is what everybody pay. All y'all just got done working against me. This is my first term walking through the door. Now y'all had a nerve to send me a damn invoice. And I talked to her. I was like, don't pay that. Don't pay that. And she was like, I'm not paying that. Catch me on my second term. But I wish I would pay people who just spent

the last eight months to a year walking against me from getting into this office. That's another element of the game that people don't know that exists. And I could, I could do that on a number of levels. I could do it on a number of levels. So, you know, people talk about politics saying for the faint of heart, you know, you got to have thick skin to play in this arena. And.

There there's just many a day and I got to take a break cause I see y'all but I got to take my first break of the morning, but there is many a day that I Watched Lena walk out that building and I was like, I don't know how the hell you turn around and come back See, I said I wasn't gonna cuss before eight o'clock. God dang it But I don't know how you turn around and come back

But then you always understood the people that come into the building for the right reason which is to serve people Which is to do us right for a community? They always figure out a way to come back or they figure out another way to serve But Yeah, Jermaine to your point There's a whole lot of you have to smile in people's face and work alongside people who just spent

a considerable amount of time, money, effort, trashing you. And now we all got to sit at the table and do the Kumbaya because we got a bigger goal right now, which is to make sure that that governor's office does not flip hands to a Republican, particularly a Republican like Tom Tiffany. Let me take a break. Michelle Bond WNOV 868.

860 AM, 106.5 FM. I'll be right back.

All right, family, let me go to the phone line. I got some folks that have been waiting and let me also say good morning to my folks on social media, YouTube and Facebook. What's happening, family? I will take a look at some of these comments, see what you're all charming in and saying. Let me catch the phone line first. Hey, caller. What's happening? Good morning, Michelle. Are you good? How are you this morning?

I want to call in and say congratulations, Mr. David Crawley. My heart is full. I was watching the national news last night and felt like a big cousin. Do you think that Francesca Hong will run for Senate to be Senator Ron Johnson now? Oh, for U.S. Senate, that's a good question. But you said that she couldn't take Roy's position or something like that. There was a conflict.

Well, I'm just saying, yeah, Kelda Roy's is her senator. She is the senator for the district that her assembly seat is in. So she'd have to run against Kelda. I mean, yeah, the run for U.S. Senate is always a possibility. They're going to need to be identifying someone to take on Ron Johnson again. So, you know, I just think if people can coalesce around the approach that you got a good shot. But yes, that's an option. It's always an option.

For the Mandela bars, those 10,000 voters that voted early and they're voting count towards anything. Do you think that they'll come out in November? Because they really voted and nothing counted.

Um, I'm hopeful, you know, I think that while a lot of people may have supported him as a candidate, they also certainly understand or many of them hopefully will understand what's at stake and so that they figure out a way to get behind David to be able to, you know, make sure we don't lose control of the governor's office. So I think after people get over the sting of it all and then this was a situation to like your candidate.

Got caught up in his own nonsense. So nobody came for him in the sense that, you know, you can directly say this, these people knocked him out of the race that were folks that were currently on the ballot. So it's one of those unforced errors kind of situation where, you know, if you're going to look at anybody, you got to look at your own candidate.

I just don't understand what everything with Trump and, you know, some of these Republican governors that's going around here. Why are some of the blue Democrats talking about Mr. David Crowley not talking to the Muslim population or not taking a stance on AI data centers? It's bigger than that. Like, have you not been witnessing what Trump has been doing these last couple of years? And if it's just over, you're concerned.

let's just talk about it but don't be all on social media and the news trying to bash them over those couple of items which are important but it's not worth a vote for Tiffany in my opinion and I hope he addresses the gods of Palestine or whatever they're upset about which is a real valid concern but I just don't want us to divide when we should be coming together like Ms. Pong said and then lastly

Is there a bus that's going to be gone to the Milton House? I heard the commercial. And I don't think that's here in Milwaukee, is it? No, it's not. I'm not sure. You know what? Let me know. Dr. Myers has that traveling agency. You know what? You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'll work with Likisha to see if we want to try to coordinate something for people to have transportation to get up to the Milton House. Let me catch this next caller. Hey, caller, what's happening?

Hello. Yes. Yes. Good morning, Michelle. Good morning. I was calling your previous caller pretty much addressed all the questions I had. Here's my problem where I'm conflicted. For so long, I voted as my parents voted.

You could not live in my parents house if you did not vote. I and I in turn did the same thing with my children but now I see where I fell because As I got older I started diving deeper in those people's policies and what they you know represented or whatever I'm asking the question. How do we get young people?

Without telling them cuz like Tuesday both my sons there are 39 and 25 I'm on them. Did you vote? You know, they both work And then I get it who we voting for and it's so frustrating to me But I didn't have that attitude also when I was there, you know my youngest I didn't have they were my parents told me to do and when you brought

I was so conflicted but this morning your first message was uh the love and war thing about politics and and it's not it's not personal how do we keep that as as a democratic party to keep that out of the in the real issues that's what i'm not so sure about how can i go tell young people you need to go go go

Not about when you don't, when they don't, it's just living. Well, let me, let me try to speak to some of it. Thank you for the questions. They are very poignant. We are wrestling with them. You know, you're not the only one that are raising these issues and these concerns. I think one of the questions you kind of answered a little bit yourself, you know, in terms of what I would add by way of feedback. So thank you.

I will say this on that first piece about getting younger people engaged. You know, I think for most people and just for the last caller, Akisha was listening. She said she is on it trying to figure out if we can do a bus trip to Milton house so that folks don't have to worry about driving up and we can go and support that that program. So for younger people.

You know, it's an interesting kind of situation because first and foremost, you will hear most movements have been propelled by younger people. Now older people may be the ones that have.

mapped out strategy or talked about, you know, what we need to do or raise the issue. Young people are the ones that typically did the marching, put their bodies on the lines, the freedom riders, the sit-ins and the protests on college campuses. So first, we always got to remember that even though it doesn't seem like it, young people have always been a part. Right here in Milwaukee, when you talk about the commandos and the youth unit that marched with Gropy,

and Vel Phillips for fair housing. So let's not ever lose sight that young people have always been a part of what we do politically. When you think about Black Lives Matter, those are young people that helped to spear a lot of the work in what was going on. In fact, we were all Martha's Vineyard with one of the...

The young brothers that's real active in Black Lives Matter Keisha was walking past him like that's a different Black Lives Matter And you know, we like both turned around and then ended up at the same event with Angela Davis So they're out there. That's that's number one Finding though the things that speak to what's important to them because that's why most people vote, you know, they're that that voting because our folks died for

because, you know, we have a responsibility, the historical implications. That's not always the reason that's going to drive a lot of people to the polls. People got to be able to connect it to me, to my household, to, you know, what does all it is? When somebody said I voted because I got a stimulus check, they were able to connect something directly coming into their household.

And so when we are able to talk about politics in a way that we make it very, very relatable and understandable and help people understand how you're impacted, it lands differently. That's a real easy simplistic. It can be way deeper, but I'm just gonna say that for the sake of time. The other thing that I will say real quickly to that second part, how do we keep the personal

out of this. People gotta make a choice and a decision. But see, people do what works. Garbage sales. Being mean sales. Do you think anybody would watch Atlanta Housewives if they weren't cussing each other out and fighting and being all ignorant and ghetto and belligerent and you know, people could sit back and laugh and be entertained and crack up? I would, I would have, what do we say all the time?

Put out something meaningful, documentary about some issue. You can't barely get nobody to attend. Put out some foolishness and people are attracted to it. Campaigns are the same way. Find the negatives. People were willing to go after Francesca Hong about canceling Thanksgiving, but you didn't go and fight as hard about the conversation about raising the minimum wage and expanding health care.

and getting daycare for people. People love getting mired down into silly, simple stuff. And so I gotta go to break, but these are choices. I behave and act in a way that I could always go back to somebody. Those are choices I make. I could be dirty. I could go for the jugular.

I could dig up all the personal dirt I can on you and try to destroy you. A, I wouldn't want nobody to do it to me. I wouldn't want nobody to put my family through that. And C, this is the part where I get conflicted and I have my owl moments because it's a whole bunch of folks that running around here talking about they love the Lord, but they be on BS. And they do hopeful, mean things in the course of trying to win.

and be the first one sitting there behind in church on Sunday, you know, singing the next, the next hymn and amen into the preacher. But get out here in the streets and behave very, very differently. These are choices. But people do what works. Donald Trump went low and dirty because he saw that people responded to that. We talk on both sides of our neck.

I gotta take a break. I'll be right back.

All right, family, welcome back to the show. So just real quick, I talked about the fact that there were elections around the country on Tuesday as we are, you know, now in the throes of the 2026 midterm election cycle. So Wisconsin, Minnesota, Connecticut, Vermont, Alabama, South Carolina all had races in play. And there were some singular.

take-aways from some of these individual states and the races that were run and then something that's more cumulative that we can talk about in general in looking at these races. So let's go over to our folks, you know, to our neighbors in the Midwest, Minnesota. There's a whole bunch of conversation about progressives versus regular Democrats versus, you know, Democratic socialists. It's really kind of wearing on my nerves and getting

you know, is irritating. I am never someone that has identified as a progressive. I just say I'm a Democrat. I think that a lot of the values typically tend to be the same. And those kinds of, you know, labels tend to irritate me. You know, I let people do what they want to be called what you want to. But I'm a Democrat, period. That's that's all I am. But.

Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan won the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate and she defeated a Democrat Representative Angie Craig. Flanagan's victory, people thought was significant because it demonstrated that here's the label, progressive candidates can still win Democratic primaries when they build a strong coalition.

and define the race around issues that motivate the base because that was one of the things that people keep trying to frame the election in Wisconsin about is that progressives against.

the establishment, the Democratic Socialists against the establishment. And I was listening to a couple of talkers on CNN and just got real irritated because one of the things that they said is, you know, Francesca Hong's message didn't resonate with black voters in Milwaukee, urban voters, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like. You fail to understand the dynamics in that you're talking about.

It wasn't just about her message. She was up against a hometown son. She was up against a well known hometown son. There were black people that voted for Francesca home. But the playing field is different because this was David's territory. And that's why I like when you go back and you look at Mandela's race and he didn't.

Tony Evers outperformed him in the city of Milwaukee with black folks You expect if you understand the dynamics of this race David Crawley better had outperformed her in Milwaukee Because if he hadn't outperformed her in Milwaukee, he wouldn't have won this race He would have had a real problem so

This whole pitting progressives against Democrats and who emerges, you know as a stronger entity like on some level People need to stop this because these are in in my mind some of it is manufactured Conflict People are pretty much after the same things we differ on how to get there, but at the end of the day these groups still gonna vote as a unit

So that's one thing Down in Alabama Lord have mercy Jesus what they have done around redistricting and stripping away black political power. It is so sickening Black I mean our voters down in Alabama were choosing congressional nominees under the newly redrawn maps the redistricting fight

You know, it's part of the larger national conversation about what we're doing to dilute black voting power and representation. People are using whatever tools are available to them to make sure that we have fewer and fewer black folks in office. Democratic candidates showman figures advanced in their newly configured.

second congressional district which has a significant black voting population but represents a tougher general election environment than his previous district. So just a reminder, these lines are being drawn to shut people out. Republicans for all you black people who love to jump on the

I'm a conservative, I'm a Republican, Republican bandwagon. I just don't understand how all y'all stay so damn silent when you realize what these people are doing to draw black people out of being able to serve in Congress and in some of these state houses. When you talk about what was done in Memphis, again, Congressman.

I mean, I'm sorry. State Representative Justin Pearson, who's running for Congress, and they talk about what those can... They only had one stronghold black seat that could get somebody to Congress in Tennessee. And they tore that district up in such a way that they stretched it from one side of the state to the other side of the state. All of that was done to harm black...

voters and black representation. And that was the Republican Party who many of these black faces stand up and rock with knowing that they are working to strip away this power from black folks. But what they had not anticipated and I was thrilled to hear Justin Pearson say when I want to hear him speak is that they've been out in rural Tennessee.

and have been connecting with white and black folks in rural Tennessee. That new area that's been added to the district now covering 15 counties instead of one county. 15 counties instead of one county. And they are talking to these people that are struggling and finding out that they actually have more common ground. See, that was the big thing that they always wanted to prevent from low income.

moderate income, poor white folks figuring out you being hit by the same struggles that are being directed at the black community. And if these two groups ever got together to start challenging power structures and start demanding that things be done differently in government that benefited more people, that's real power. So I got to keep y'all at each other's throats because

We don't want the multi-millionaires and billionaires. We don't want to lose our power But the minute the people rise up you can put a stop to a whole bunch of nonsense So it's easier for me to keep y'all hating each other along racial lines Along, you know ideological lines abortion Whether you a Muslim or not religion

So that you what what they say if I distract you with this I can continue to rob you and be in your pockets and you will never understand Until it's too late Donald Trump getting ready to spend nine hundred million dollars on them those White House renovations. That's our taxpayer money So even though I'm gonna have to judge had blocked him

building the ballroom. He got the helicopter pad going in. He has other projects that nobody is monitoring. So again, with all of this stuff that he's doing, he's trying to set this up as if it's here. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Let me take a quick break, y'all. Carlos, I know you're holding. I'm trying to work some of this stuff in. I'll be right back.

I also had our eye on South Carolina on yesterday. We know that the effort to replace Lindsey Graham in the Republican primary, it went to a runoff. They actually are going to have a runoff on August 25th. Darlene Graham, Lindsey's sister, who was endorsed by Donald Trump and a Republican by the name of Ralph Norman are the two that advanced takeaways from that race. Donald Trump's endorsement.

put her over the top in terms of getting her in the runoff. But as you can see, Republicans still challenged. And so people are beginning to kind of think about a little bit if Donald Trump's endorsements, if he still has the stronghold over every Republican, it seems like in the nation and whether or not those things are going to continue. So we will keep our eye on a lot of these races. The other thing.

that is also going on in the background is this generational kind of change. You're beginning to see more and more younger folks step up to run for office, talking about how long some of these people are staying in office. You start talking about 20 year incumbents, 30 year incumbents, people that's 75, 80 years old, and folks are starting to say, when is enough enough? How long should you be able to sit there?

People are talking about term limits in different places. So just so you know, these are some of the things that are happening around us. Let me catch the phone line real quick. Hey, Caller, what's happening? Hello. Hello. Hello. Try the next call. Hey, Caller, what's happening? Hey, Rick, what's going on, man?

I just want to say that you being a Democrat, that just declares that you believe in the power and the right to vote. But you got to get past the right to vote and get to the issues. We very rarely get to the issues as black voters, as white voters, as all the colors in between, and all the constituencies in between.

You know, they put the roughly put Trump in office so that he would take the blows and get the attention. But the system is really been corrupt. You need to bring the constitution constitution at the federal level into the 20th and the 21st century. And you're it's hard to do that. Trying to get people to vote for individuals.

one by one across the country, we need a mass rush of individuals into the Congress to change the Congress. And I don't think that's going to happen in the next 20 years. I'm sad to say it, but I believe in the power of the vote, but I don't think the system is going to change over the next 20 years.

I'm done sister. All right. Thank you very appreciate the call. Let me let me do this for a second. I'm a switch gears because I got an interview happening around the 830 hour. So I don't have a ton of time left this morning. Let me highlight the Carolyn Levitt resignation from the White House. She just got back from maternity leave. And then the White House along with Caroline put out the statement saying that, hey,

I want to be at home with my child. You know, I have two children and the demands of motherhood. Um, yeah, I want to go back to the house and, uh, they say, but she's going to be a special advisor to the president, but it's not lost on a lot of people that when Donald Trump and the FBI.

or the federal agents made their move to take him off of the airplane that the Israeli government had told the US may be under attack. When they took Trump off the plane. Through the catering truck to get him to a different plane, and he left everybody else.

on the plane that potentially could have been shot down. He left Caroline Levitt on the plane. She, along with a number of White House staff members and reporters, had no idea that they were in harm's way when he got off that damn plane. He left his girl on the plane.

And so, I don't care what the press releases and what the public facing front of this whole thing is, but just think about youth, because you know, people get to feeling pretty self-important. She's the youngest press reporter we've ever had. White House Press reporter we've ever had. Donald Trump, you know, I'm sure I had you thinking you were special and above the fray and you found out you ain't mean nothing to him.

He didn't say nobody but himself. You ain't mean nothing to him. So I'm sure you have to go home and reconcile with the fact that you potentially were put in harm's way and the United States military and everybody involved made the decision that your life was expendable while you are sitting here carrying water

for this crazy man every day. Yeah, baby. That was a hard pill to swallow. So I want to be clear. Caroline Levitt, you ain't fooling nobody. That had to hit a certain kind of way when you understand that you were on that flight.

And that that man got off that plane and here you are thinking you the apple of his eye You are pretty and cute. You know how Trump feels about little young blind girls and You're special you weren't special at all. He was gonna let you get killed I Wonder does anybody believe Barack Obama Bill Clinton George Bush even

would have behaved. Daddy Bush and Young Bush would have behaved in this way that there was not a whole lot of thought about the people that were left on the decoy plane. So let's just make sure we clear on that. Let me go to the phone line. Hey, Carl, what's happening? Hello? Hey, Michelle.

Hi. Hey, how are you? I'm good. Mr. McNerchie. I met you actually for the first time at the county of Sydney and my daughter. Yes. Yes. I remember. Okay. You're doing good. I just left Alabama. You were speaking about that shortly ago. I had a chance to listen to you the way I wanted to. But prior to today, I promised you I'd just shoot out of an election, electorate central or whatever it is.

Yeah, you yourself and I think Dr. Myers did a wonderful job in terms of helping. I guess I would be labeled as a traditional Democrat. I've always been, you know, somewhat apart and always contributed things of that nature that and yeah, you guys have put down a lot of things that folks like me don't quite understand because that's so not happened to be my.

life, but lately over the last few years, of course, you have to kind of, you know, dabble in there somewhat pretty much. And that's what I've been doing. But what I'm a little mystified of some things you were discussing, you know, typically right on board, which will basically all of your thoughts and comments and commentaries would have you. But last week prior to that, well, last week, you were talking, you know, you

really animate about this discussion you were having about Democrats. And I guess you basically, long story short, was saying Democrats basically throwing mud on Democrats. And, you know, yes, I'm not a big fan of socialism and the socials and the people that's, you know, expand and run, expand government and things of this nature. And then I think, but you think we have to realize that.

French, Justin Hong, whatever, actually, I might bulk a name up and I apologize, but we, I will say I, but I think it's more pure, wasn't pure aware of who she was, where she was, and what she was trying to accomplish. And she kind of jumped in there and started really picking up a lot of areas that

you know, her own area is like Dane County where she's, I guess, living from and things of that nature. But you were saying a lot that meant a lot, and I don't know the impact it made on voters, but I do know that it was a little difficult to digest because you were basically saying, and if you can help me, I'm not gonna hold you longer, but we talk about the establishment, we talk about the progressives, we talk about the various

I guess you would say parts of a democratic party. And what I was trying to hear from you lately is that we kind of beating up on each other. If that's the case, I understand. But it's nice to know, then not to know. So maybe if you could just maybe go back and elaborate on that briefly about what's going on here.

so many emails from Tamara Baldwin. I think, how is she going to impact a brother of Crowley's campaign going forward? And how much more of you think it's going to be slain on these two candidates for government? And then I'll let you go, my dear, and it's a pleasure to talk to you.

All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate the call. Let me say this. When I talk about the things that frustrate me within my own party, it is that

You can have these debates. You can discuss the issues. You can make differences between you and your opponents without trying to literally destroy these opponents in a way that it makes them hard. It makes it hard for them to have a political life afterwards because the attacks become so personal. And I watched Democrats like I think that is a crying shame that and Jacobs.

who is a Democrat and sits on the Wisconsin election commission can get on social media and trash people the way that she does. But you sit on the election commission and no, you don't lose your right to support who you want to support and to have a vote and a say. But if Francesca Hong, which is one of the people that she attacked viscerally on social media, has to come before the election commission to have a decision made about something.

How do I expect you to behave and be fair when you trash her every chance you get on social media? I think that there ought to be some rules and some ethics about people who hold some of these other positions But I say this even in my personal life. I talked about I used to use the example of dating and brothers would try to talk to me and

They knew somebody else was either talking to me or interested in me, and they would go out of their way to personally berate and trash their brother. And I would tell them all the time, if you got to tear him down to elevate yourself, I don't, I'm not interested in you. You can make your case. Now you need to point out the differences between you all politically. That's cool.

But the things that we began to see it was a straight out demonization of this woman who actually is serving in the legislature right now and When this race is over has to go back and serve and then may decide to run for reelection again. She has not harmed the Democratic Party To the point that they need to turn around and try to harm her professional career

So those are the things that that frustrate me is that you don't get to do that in that way and somebody's pinging me and I was gonna say it anyway like Brother when you just said like it sounded like you're saying like I don't you know, I don't really like socialism One of the things I always caution people is you need to fully understand elements of socialism Because what a socialism get us under Franklin Delano Roosevelt who was a socialist?

it gets us Social Security and Medicare. Tell me how many black folks don't use Social Security and Medicare. So when you talk about I don't like socialism, you telling me you don't like Social Security and Medicare? Public education, free public schools and state universities, that comes under socialism. When you talk about safety net programs, full share or full stamps, Medicaid, that's socialism.

because it's the idea that we are going to all put something into the pot to make sure that these people don't fall through the cracks. So, you know, we got to make sure we understand these terms when we telling people, I'm not for this, I'm against this. The roads that you're driving on, the streets that that car is rolling up and down on, that's socialism. When I was in South Africa,

Or in Kenya when I was in Kenya a couple of years ago The first question I asked because I saw so many Chinese people in Kenya. I was like what the hell is going on over here and The brother who was driving our Jeep on one of our safaris I said, bro, what's up with all these Chinese people man? And he was like, yeah, he said but you know the roads we riding on right now

Everyone for the Chinese people will still be riding on dirt roads. I was like, what? He was like, yeah, because they have not the government has not done what they need to do. You know, people are like taking care of their own areas and there is no system like in America where y'all got public highways and freeways and interconnecting, you know, paved roads.

So the Chinese on their own were coming in and paving some of these roads in Kenya And I just looked at him When you come back to the United States when you able to get on 60 I mean leave out of Milwaukee on 94 his 65 and 65 run you straight on into Alabama that socialism That is an element of socialism so

public infrastructure y'all you got to understand Health care the idea that you know, we would create Obamacare the Affordable Care Act That's the element of socialism that people should be entitled to some basic care living in this country We got to understand these terms y'all because you got people telling you to be a socialist is bad

I'm not saying you embrace everything, but you better understand that many of the things that we enjoy and depend on one to function in this country come out of a socialist ideology. All right. Let me do this real quick. Let me go to the phone line. Phone lines are lit up, so I'm going to try to switch. Let me go to the phone line. Hey, Carla, what's happening?

Good morning Michelle and thank you for taking my call. Yes ma'am. One thing that I want to say about this socialism, when you say social security, I've worked 41 and a half years. I paid into that so that I could get my social security. Now there's another aspect of it where people have not worked and they get social security.

You only get social security when you haven't worked if you have had some type of disability and you can't work So let's not make it. Let's be make sure we're not making it sound like people are freeloaders and getting over on the system No, no, I'm trying to make sure that people that have worked hard Michelle and paid into this You I don't look at it like you doing me a favor when I pay for that benefit. Well, let me be clear

The way that that system is set up in the first place It's only set up because FDR them comes in and says we got to have a way to make sure that people are okay in their later years in life So there would have been no system to pay into if they hadn't created it under Socialism, but go ahead. Okay. The term socialism came about We were getting those benefits

Now they're putting a name to it. So let me just go on, it's a whole bunch of things that I, let me just add another thing. These candidates that are running, David Crawley is running now. Not only is he doing this campaign, he's still expected to be county exec. And if you are any friend to him, be that friend. Don't put no demands on his time.

and make him try to show up for you in his calendar school. Because you'll have a special place that other people won't have. You know what I'm saying? And these people that didn't vote for him and smiling in his face, he knows who they are, and God knows who they are. He has to stay focused on one thing, and that's beating this Republican guy.

And if anybody got any off with him, chill it down to just that. Getting rid of the least as many Republicans in office as we can. And I don't think it's gonna take us 20 years because every time an election come up, we should be grooming somebody to get in place. Let's stop being small minded and all this other crap. And you know, hurt feelings don't get into politics.

like it's been stated. If you've got thin skin, and if you don't have no balls, get out of the game because we don't need you. It's too critical. Have a great day. All right. Thank you so much. I just want to make one point. The term socialism, we can go back to the 1820s and the 1830s and find when it first appeared in print.

in November of 1827 in this magazine called The Cooperative, published by followers of Robert Owen. In French, the word socialism a said that all wrong was popularized and claimed by the followers of Claude Henry, the same Simon around 1832. So I just want to be clear. Socialism. Is not a new term.

That term goes way back, way back. Let me see. I got the history teacher texting me. Wait, what is she saying?

No, prior to FDR and socialism in the United States, there was no personal safety net for domestic workers, housewives, the elderly. People were working until they basically died. Socialism existed since the 1700s in Europe. Many of the ideologies of socialism have been adopted and adapted over time. However, in the U.S.,

Not until the Great Depression, there was no widespread plan to add the environment, educate students or do many of the things that we have today. So we got to make sure that we understand when socialism, you know, when these things come into play. But I traced it back to 1827. Dr. Meyer says you can go to Europe and go back to the 1700s. This that the term is actually used.

We first find, um, in, in the 1800s and practice and in theory, we can go back to the 1700s. Let me go to the phone line. Hey, caller, what's happening? Good, John. How are you today? Pretty good. Uh, your last statement, uh, that it's pretty much in the early 1800s, for my understanding is, is correct. And before that, they didn't use the word socialism or socialist. It's just social.

So here's the issue that I think we need to clarify. If you ever have time to listen, they actually have them on lines. You don't have to read it. You could do whatever you're doing, washing dishes, or driving, or whatever. Do the way Von Mises M-I-S-E-S wrote a book called Socialism and Economic and Sociological Analysis of Socialism. For short, it's just good enough to think. Said the name of the book again, John.

Socialism like apostrophe after that socialism and economic and sociological analysis. Okay So so what he does is he breaks it down and defines what is ownership? What is a society? What is before before Johnson you turn great society? What is the original great society concept? What is the fundamental social bond? He's trying to define the difference between social life and sociality and socialism

At the time he wrote was in the early 1900s approximately. He wrote a book on theory of money and credit, which was an actual textbook used in Austria. He's from Austria. He's passed like 1973 or so. So I think a lot of people would say he's the Einstein of economics and social science. Now he basically says, in my words, I'm going to sum it up, socialism is anti-social. Socialism is not a social safety. Socialism

Disjoys capital consumes capital it does not produce anything. So saying that the roads are socialist or that a social safety is socialist is to extend the word itself just because they both use the word social and same because government is involved But that means it's socialist where the Constitution does say that the federal government is responsible for uniform standards and measures uniform Highway international highway postal service, but they would not call it socialist or a form of socialism

because it's based on a capitalist system, but nobody used either word. They didn't use the word socialism or capitalism. And Adam Smith wrote wealth and nations who published four months before the declaration. And he uses his term, the system of natural liberty. He doesn't use the word capitalism. It was invented by socialists to make everybody look like a bunch of scourges. So the key that this Mises guy, M-I-S-E-S, Luther John Mises, points out is that

Fundamental social bind is anytime two people divide up labor. That's the social bond a marriage a friendship a microeconomy Like when you and I were talking about the kids getting you're getting an economic program for the kids for they can grow That's topical and without that capital. There's no multiplier effect And if somebody's like the Democrats so to say topillism is even dealable like you're feeling I have to do you guys expect the Republicans to carry the ball

and have to fight with the A.L.C. and the Bernie Sanders and worse than that, Montaigne, that whole crowd is saying, no capitalism, period. So there is a difference between the moderate, which I would call the class war static war Democrats, with the media is called establishment. And this goes way beyond John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, who cut taxes to dynamic through dynamic or your goals, the tax base, but if you kill all your cows, you won't ever eat cows.

to Harvard. John, I'm going to have to limit the comment. I got to go to break and I got a guest joining me in the next couple of minutes. So I'd love to pick this up on Monday. Thank you so much for the call. And I definitely follow up on the book that you recommended. Let me go to break your Michelle Barn WNLV 86810615 FM. I'll be right back.

All right, y'all, so Jesus Christ, I want to be clear. I can't stand your back. I want to be clear. I do believe it's the chair because Sharon was special too. But I just I just need to be crystal clear if there's any confusion.

This would get on my nerves. So look, we are trying to get our video feed. We're waiting on actually Kirk Whalum. There was going to be an interview with him this morning to talk about the upcoming Harbor Jazz Festival that is happening. And that's not the right full name, so I'll pull it up. But that is happening this Saturday. And I was hopefully going to have an opportunity to talk to.

Kirk, because, you know, this is a couple of questions I have that I would love to to get his insight on. So I'm not sure if we're going to be able to make this happen this morning, but we're working on it. Jermaine, you want to say something?

Okay, so let me do this. I'm gonna try to take one more commercial break so that we can kind of open up a little bit longer space. If we can get him connected, call us. I do see you. Hang in there with me because if we can't get him, I'll bring you guys up. Let me go to break. Be right back.

All right, we have waited as long as we can. We're not going to be able to be here. We're not going to be able to get this together. I'm not sure what's happening. Mr. Wayland's in. So let me go to the phone line. I'm trying to get our callers in. Hey, caller. What's happening? Hello. Hello. Yeah, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. I'm sorry that you couldn't get you there. But I've been waiting a while now because you've been talking about socialism and.

Socialism is a serious thing. As a matter of fact, if you look at the school, Victor Berger, he was the father right here in Wisconsin, one of the founding fathers of the Socialist Movement. My brother and I didn't even want us to go to Victor Berger's school. We couldn't go up there because he knew that socialism would make me and others like me not know

to carry out responsibilities that we have to do to keep it moving. So if you look at Victor Burger, he was at school up there. He was a founding father of socialism. And you gotta realize something about Democrats. We had Democrats in the Northern as well. Don't think that they were just all down on South. Now, if you look at history, history would kind of is getting raced and show us that the Democrats here was fighting for liberation. But that's not really the truth. They were really called copperheads.

see up in the northern states that really did not want to abolish slavery. They were Democrats, but they were called cobblers. So what you, what you have here is, uh, we got a situation going on in this country and, and it's foreigners that's bringing this policy in that they can't, they, they, they come from a socialist country and they want to really, really change up. And I'm not in for changing right now. We probably never in my life, uh, because I can't, I can't follow where I see other people going now.

So while it gets in, we got four years of quality. Now it's quality dirty repeal that dog going to school board tax deal. Guess what? You don't have a house in four years. Can you imagine if you're on a farm for like five million or you got a piece of property that's worth like 2.5 million and the increasing tax on that in five years and on that. So we also forget to do the big boys. Let's bring that down to home.

If you've got a couple properties around here and you've got one that's worth maybe $250,000, $300,000, guess what? It's going to increase. Do the math. You walk away with nothing in 20 years, 10 years. We'll be saying, we won't have all of that down here. We used to be out. But oh no, I don't know them people. I'm not willing to trade what my people have left me and what I'm trying to be somebody else, but some people that I don't even know, some strengths. And the thing is, what a pause me most is when I hear young people talking about

stuff. And they don't know them. A lot of times I don't even butt in them because let them exercise. You know, I'm not even gonna spot on it. If you spot on it, it takes away the courage. And anyway, what bothers me most is when I hear old people say, man, that tells me that they've just been pulling the level or they just now getting involved in this movement that's been going on. I've been, I've been messed up in streets, but I still knew my way back to that church and how to pull that dog on level the proper way. And I've been messed up.

I mean, I really messed up the individual. But at the same time, I never got so far away that I forgot what the people gave me before him. Yeah. So I just thought I would chop in and jump in and talk about that. And guess what? The Socialism Party is just one of them things, man. Somebody might say, well, that's all we got, Park. Guess what? My granddaddy had to go and go and never wait most of your parks. We couldn't even go swimming nowhere. But over there at, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh

You couldn't get in no rent and talk, you couldn't even go to the, you couldn't even go to the old auditoriums to swim. That was all social, but it wasn't included. It wasn't welcome to the gym, right? Okay, so I just thought I would throw that in for people to just catch them on to. And I ain't just Google this mess. This is something in my hard drive, man. It's in my data since a while back, right?

So it ain't something I just go Google it. And you people that Google it, you need to Google it and start reading and studying. You retain that knowledge, because when you Google it, the knowledge disappears like that in a matter of, unless it's something you really want to hold on to, you might remember it. But other than that, it's just not retainable. And with that, I'm going to get on out of here. See you then.

All right. Thank you. I appreciate the call. And just so we clear, Victor Berger was a founder of socialism in America. He was not a founding member of socialism prior to coming to America and the earliest iterations of it. He was a founding member of the socialist movement in America. OK. I got to get out of here.

Thursday is my early day and gotta make a way for funeral announcements. And get out of the way for Kesha. Some family have a great weekend. It was a long week. It was a long week. A lot of people emotionally tied up into these races and what was going on. Y'all.

Take an opportunity and go just enjoy yourself this weekend. Breathe, rejuvenate. Come by your main spot. Where's the party going to be? It's going to be at OGs and Brown Deer. OGs, Brown Deers, Mr. B's parking lot all in that area. Twenty five hours at the door. Come. I'm telling you, it's going to be nice. Put on something nice and come on out and party with your boy.

Yeah Y'all ain't except the kids

Good morning.

Good morning.

What's happening, family?

Welcome to the show.

It is Michelle Bryant here at WNOV, 860 AM, 106.5 FM.

You are listening to say something real.

Can you turn it down for me?

Thank you.

I guess I'm back.

I guess I'm back.

But it is...

still a lot trying to recover from everything that has gone on in the last couple of days.

It has been interesting watching the nation dissect the gubernatorial primary here in Wisconsin.

listening to the different commentators take on what they believe happened here.

I'm gonna talk a little bit about that this morning.

Look at some of the other races that went on on Tuesday in the nation.

But let me say good morning, first of all, to the brothers in the building right out.

Hey, what's going on?

We getting closer to the party.

Hey, well, you know

the party is going down.

We getting closer to the

party.

Hey, it's going down tomorrow.

It's going down.

It's going

down.

I gotta go get my hair done.

Listen here, man.

You don't want to miss it.

Listen, if you want to come, it's $25 at the door.

Come on down.

It's going to be a movie, man.

Do you

accept Kangas?

I

accept my hand over to the ATL.

Can I do a donation to charity?

On your behalf, do you accept canned goods?

Don't make

that $25.

I

like that fundraising component too.

Bring two canned goods.

Bring two canned goods and you can get in for $10.

Two

canned goods.

I'll tell you what.

I think

you want even better.

What?

If you bring two canned goods, you can get in for $25.

I

was at one better.

I'm actually out more with your one better.

Yes, that's why you should have stayed in NPA.

Yeah, well, you know, it's going to be a party.

It's going to be a movie.

It's going to be a nice evening.

Um, you know, I'll put on your hard bottoms and slacks.

I just, yeah.

Hard

bottoms.

Yeah, man.

I just,

yeah.

Hard bottoms.

You understand

me?

Put on your hard bottoms, slacks.

Hey, by the

way, ready?

I ready, buddy.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

Hope here, Susan.

He ain't never

worried with me.

Hey,

he gonna be changing.

He gonna be

changing like a wreath there.

He got his just coming into the dough party shoes.

Then he got

turned up shoes.

10 o'clock when you slide across the floor.

You know, then you got the shoes at the end of the night when you'll feed her.

So

Patty LaBelle do that.

Her performances, she had three pair of shoes.

The pair of shoes she come out in was used as a nice little heel.

Now, two and a half to three

inches.

Midway through, she dropped down to that too.

And next thing you know, she got them flat so.

I didn't know me and dude the same thing.

I feel her too though.

You know, after a whole lot

of dancing

and

groove and you

feel her.

Really?

Yeah.

You know, so.

Why do you dance like George Jefferson?

Hey, listen.

And you know what?

None of this sounds appealing.

I'm like, I'm trying to get mentally in the headspace for the party and you dancing like Mick Jagger is not getting me.

All right.

Well, let me tell you this.

What?

You can eat all the meat you

want.

I swear to God, I want to curse

right now.

Don't know what the hell I got to do

with what we're talking

about.

I

just tried to institute a new rule.

No cursing before eight o'clock.

But I really want to curse right now.

Let me just leave you.

Hey, Clark Kent.

Hey, anybody but this.

Look, anybody but this fool.

She said what?

So, Clark, I'm assuming that your morning banter is a little bit more,

you know, yeah,

regular.

I'm still asleep.

Oh, you're still asleep.

So, you don't have no morning banter.

You see Bizzy Court, look, because he was too busy coordinating his outfit last night.

Clark would be killing me.

I mean, he'd be colored down from head to toe.

Clark's like, oh.

green shirt today.

That's gonna need that green can go bus to the side.

I know you coordinated down to the socks Clark.

I know you are.

Wait, really down to the shoes.

You got the girl.

You got the green with the blue swoosh.

Get it Clark.

I just hope people don't wear that louse.

They don't come into the party loud like, hey, why is your suit yellow

than everybody?

You know what?

He should have whooped Harvey.

That was the funny.

He should have whooped Harvey after that, because that lives in infamy.

And you never, ever thought

about.

Loud clothing in the sense of actual sound, you know colors.

Yeah.

Oh, that was lousy dog, you know, but like he should have killed Carmen.

He should have tapped Carmen for that one.

had mics on it or something.

You see, and you just going to keep it going.

You're going to keep it going.

The sauce is growing.

Grow up, Jermaine.

Grow up, Jermaine.

Is it Jamie?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie

and Superman?

Is it a good boy to be still with Jamie and Superman?

And Vivian King renamed him Jamie.

Well, that could be his middle name since he ain't

got one.

Jermaine, Jamie, right at JJR, baby.

You better believe it,

Jack.

All right, y'all.

So much, so much to talk about this morning.

Let me just say, first of all,

We had been hearing that there was going to be a unity event, a unity breakfast.

Folks are going to sit down and break bread after the primary election ended.

It was something that was coordinated ahead of time.

It looks like to be able to quickly.

galvanized support behind whoever emerged from the primary as the nominee.

And, you know, we don't want to leave a whole lot of time in between consolidating support, bringing everybody's camp to the table.

And so there is a really cool photo that was...

dropped on yesterday.

And it is all of the candidates.

Kelderoy's, Joel Brennan, Francesca Hong.

Oh, wait, wait.

Oh, well, I guess all of the candidates that were still left in the race.

Kelderoy's, Joel Brennan, Francesca Hong, David Crawley.

And then there are other folks in the photo.

who had run for statewide office and were on the ballot as well.

Attorney General Josh Call, Sarah Gottluske.

I can't see who this is sitting behind Tammy Baldwin.

This looks like Mark Pokan, Congressman Mark Pokan, U.S.

Senator Tammy Baldwin.

And I don't know who this is down on the end.

I don't know who she is.

And I can't see who is sitting behind.

Baldwin.

Oh, that might be Devon Remaker.

That kind of look like his hair at the top, the chair of the Democratic Party.

But and then DC, if I didn't mention him at the at the table.

And so it is a good look.

Everybody is laughing and smiling.

Cups are raised and folks said in their concession speeches.

Brennan and Kelda right out the gate.

We will get behind whoever the nominee is or we will get behind the nominee and we will work as hard as we can form to keep Tom Tiffany from ascending to the governor's office.

When Francesca made her statement, it was before the results that come in, but it had a very conciliatory tone.

No matter what the outcome is, we are going to continue to fight for one another.

I think her, her, her speech goes down for me as one of the better ones.

Just in general, I've heard about how to stay focused and how to quickly rebound after, you know, a lot of nastiness and divisiveness.

Oh, that's Diane Hasselman.

Thank you.

I had no clue who that was.

So.

Um, good, good, good start to get out the gate.

It will be interesting to see, you know, where the other folks are.

If you will see, um, a Mandela barn stomping for anybody, um, although, I don't know if he helped you.

Um,

I mean, I read a sentence out loud, but I just, I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

What?

OK, so I'm just trying to understand.

Oh, my God.

All this work.

So.

OK, so they have these campaigns and they go out and they talk about each other, but one person wins and then that person that just talked about you gets behind you and back you.

Let me tell you something.

When I say, first of all,

politics is some of the dirtiest men.

And you

know, that's why

when you hear people calling the politics, politics is some of the dirtiest mess you've ever seen in your life.

And until you get up close and in person to watch how some of this mess unfolds, you just really wouldn't believe it.

Um, I think that people have the idea, if you think about it in terms of sports, that when you are on the field,

You're doing everything you can to win.

Right.

And in some cases, you know, cats have caught some hits that was questionable hits.

You know, some force has been used, you know, to sack a quarterback that may not have been necessary.

But the whole idea is I'm in win mode.

And so I'm going to do everything I can to win when that game is over.

Typically.

You can see folks go back to Well, not necessarily you go your way and I go mine, you know, they go back to being okay because they understood To some extent all is fair in love and war the war was You know that battle on that football field basketball court.

The war was running for office, but I will always say I Try not to do

personal harm when you in these battles, you can talk about policy without attacking the person.

You know, and that's the thing I think that a lot of these people don't understand and don't respect.

They they literally take to heart.

All is fair in loving in loving war.

It's not.

That's why we have rules of engagement in war.

That's why they talk about you shouldn't be attacking civilian known civilian territories or spaces during war You don't starve of people because you're fighting the regime and their government.

You don't cut off aid And make sure that people can't get access to basic services.

You don't bomb every freaking building in the area like Israel did on the Gaza Strip because you're trying to retaliate for

the murders of your countrymen.

So there are rules of engagement.

There should be rules of engagement.

People will tell you frequently, like, you leave people's children out of it when you run in for office.

You attack them.

You might even attack their spouse, but you don't attack their children.

Yeah, so there are some kind of unspoken rules, but it is something to look in the face of people who have

called you everything but a child of God.

And not only, you know, came after you on policy, but attacked your personal and moral character.

And

then

you got to smile with these people.

But I'm going to tell you right now, David Crawley is doing the same thing.

He's smiling right now at people who he know damn well, didn't help him the first time he ran.

And you got to just suck it up if this is what you're trying to do and go ahead and talk to these people.

And, you know, shake their hand.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I sure appreciate you.

But in the back of his mind, he know damn well, y'all want nowhere to be found.

That's right.

That's why he had to get out to race in the first place.

So, um, you know, that's that's that's the game.

There are some people that decide all the time.

I don't want to play that game.

Right.

You know, one of my favorites was that, you know, and I had to learn this working with Laquisha's campaign.

when Lekisha ran for state assembly, the first time she ran for office, and she was running against a 16 year incumbent in that particular seat.

Fred Kessler had been in the legislature, you know, much longer than 16 years, but in that 12th assembly district seat, he had been there 16 years, and you had all of these people, many of whom were black that were supporting Fred Kessler that, you know,

And some of them actually stood up.

Black elected officials stood up at public meetings, you know, basically letting you know they was rocking with Fred Kessler.

And so it was kind of funny to watch that.

And then later you got to go back and look at them people like, you know, that seat was created for black representation.

And you sitting up here grinning and skinning and cheesing with this dude who only carpet bagged and came and took this seat when he got redistricated.

I can't get it out.

When his district lines were drawn differently and moved him out of the seat, he was sitting in.

So the other part of that is that then all of those incumbents that are in office while Fred Kessler is in office, they, you know, actively helped to campaign for him and people go after you and they attack you.

But then as soon as LaKeisha got elected,

and you walk into the building, you're getting an invoice from the Democratic caucus in the legislature talking about you owe us X thousands of dollars as like your little dues or whatever for the caucus, for the general work that's done on behalf of the Democrats in the Assembly.

And, you know, Lakisha looking at this bill, like, what the hell is this?

You know, this is what everybody pay.

All y'all just got done working against me.

This is my first term walking through the door.

Now y'all had a nerve to send me a damn invoice.

And I talked to her.

I was like, don't pay that.

Don't pay that.

And she was like, I'm not paying that.

Catch me on my second term.

But I wish I would pay people who just spent

the last eight months to a year walking against me from getting into this office.

That's another element of the game that people don't know that exists.

And I could, I could do that on a number of levels.

I could do it on a number of levels.

So, you know, people talk about politics saying for the faint of heart, you know, you got to have thick skin to play in this arena.

And.

There there's just many a day and I got to take a break cause I see y'all but I got to take my first break of the morning, but there is many a day that I Watched Lena walk out that building and I was like, I don't know how the hell you turn around and come back See, I said I wasn't gonna cuss before eight o'clock.

God dang it But I don't know how you turn around and come back

But then you always understood the people that come into the building for the right reason which is to serve people Which is to do us right for a community?

They always figure out a way to come back or they figure out another way to serve But Yeah, Jermaine to your point There's a whole lot of you have to smile in people's face and work alongside people who just spent

a considerable amount of time, money, effort, trashing you.

And now we all got to sit at the table and do the Kumbaya because we got a bigger goal right now, which is to make sure that that governor's office does not flip hands to a Republican, particularly a Republican like Tom Tiffany.

Let me take a break.

Michelle Bond, WNOV 868.

860 AM, 106.5 FM.

I'll be right back.

All right, family, let me go to the phone line.

I got some folks that have been waiting and let me also say good morning to my folks on social media, YouTube and Facebook.

What's happening, family?

I will take a look at some of these comments, see what you're all charming in and saying.

Let me catch the phone line first.

Hey, caller.

What's happening?

Good morning, Michelle.

Are you good?

How are you this morning?

I want to call in and say congratulations,

Mr. David Crawley.

My heart is full.

I was watching the national news last night and felt like a big cousin.

Do you think that Francesca Hong will run for Senate to be Senator Ron Johnson now?

Oh, for U.S.

Senate, that's a good question.

You know.

But you said that she couldn't take Roy's position or something like that.

There was a conflict.

Well, I'm just saying, yeah, Kelda Roy's is her senator.

She is the senator for the district that her assembly seat is in.

So she'd have to run against Kelda.

I mean, yeah, the the run for US Senate is always a possibility.

They're going to need to be identifying someone to take on Ron Johnson again.

So, you know, I just think if people can coalesce around the approach that you got a good shot.

But yes, that's an option.

There's always an option.

And then

For the Mandela bars, those 10,000 voters that voted early and they're voting count towards anything.

Do you think that they'll come out in November?

Because

they really voted and nothing counted.

Um, I'm hopeful, you know, I think that while a lot of people may have supported him as a candidate, they also certainly understand or many of them hopefully will understand what's at stake and so

that they

figure out a way to get behind David to be able to, you know, make sure we don't lose control of the governor's office.

So I think after people get over the sting of it all and then this was a situation to like your candidate.

Got caught up in his own nonsense.

So nobody came for him in the sense that, you know, you can directly say this, these people knocked him out of the race that were folks that were currently on the ballot.

So it's one of those unforced errors kind of situation where, you know, if you're going to look at anybody, you got to look at your own candidate.

I just don't understand what everything with Trump and, you know, some of these Republican governors that's going around here.

Why are some of the blue Democrats talking about Mr. David Crowley not talking to the Muslim population or not taking a stance on AI data centers?

It's bigger than that.

Like, have you not been witnessing what Trump has been doing these last couple of years?

And if it's just over, you're concerned.

let's just talk about it but don't be all on social media and the news trying to bash them over those couple of items which are important but it's not worth a vote for Tiffany in my opinion and I hope he addresses the gods of Palestine or whatever they're upset about which is a real valid concern but I just don't want us to divide when we should be coming together like Ms.

Pong said and then lastly

Is there a bus that's going to be gone to the Milton House?

I heard the commercial.

And I don't think that's here in Milwaukee, is it?

No, it's not.

I'm not sure.

You know what?

Let me

know.

Dr. Myers has a traveling agency.

You know what?

You have to be right.

You

have to be

right.

All right.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

I'll work with location to see if we want to try to coordinate something for people to have transportation to get up to the Milton House.

Let me catch this next caller.

Hey, caller, what's happening?

Hello.

Yes.

Yes.

Good morning, Michelle.

Good morning.

I was calling your previous caller pretty much addressed all the questions I had.

Here's my problem where I'm conflicted.

For so long, I voted as my parents voted.

You could not live in my parents house if you did not vote.

I and I in turn did the same thing with my children but now I see where I fell because As I got older I started diving deeper in those people's policies and what they you know represent it or whatever I'm asking the question.

How do we get young people?

Without telling them cuz like Tuesday both my sons there are 39 and 25 I'm on them.

Did you vote?

You know, they both work And then I get it who we voting for and it's so frustrating to me But I didn't have that attitude also when I was there, you know my youngest I didn't have they were my parents told me to do and when you brought

I was so conflicted but this morning your first message was uh the love and war thing about politics and and it's not it's not personal how do we keep that as as a democratic party to keep that out of the in the real issues that's what i'm not so sure about how can i go tell young people you need to go go go

Not about when you don't, when they don't, it's just living.

Well, let me, let me try to speak to some of it.

Thank you for the questions.

They are very poignant.

We are wrestling with them.

You know, you're not the only one that are raising these issues and these concerns.

I think one of the questions you kind of answered a little bit yourself, you know, in terms of what I would add by way of feedback.

So thank you.

I will say this on that first piece about getting younger people engaged.

You know, I think for most people and just for the last caller, Akisha was listening.

She said she is on it trying to figure out if we can do a bus trip to Milton house so that folks don't have to worry about driving up and we can go and support that that program.

So for younger people.

You know, it's an interesting kind of situation because first and foremost, you will hear most movements have been propelled by younger people.

Now older people may be the ones that have.

mapped out strategy or talked about, you know, what we need to do or raise the issue.

Young people are the ones that typically did the marching, put their bodies on the lines, the freedom riders, the sit-ins and the protests on college campuses.

So first, we always got to remember that even though it doesn't seem like it, young people have always been a part.

Right here in Milwaukee, when you talk about the commandos and the youth unit that marched with Gropy,

and Vel Phillips for fair housing.

So let's not ever lose sight that young people have always been a part of what we do politically.

When you think about Black Lives Matter, those are young people that helped to spear a lot of the work in what was going on.

In fact, we were all Martha's Vineyard with one of the...

The young brothers that's real active in Black Lives Matter Keisha was walking past him like that's a different Black Lives Matter And you know, we like both turned around and then ended up at the same event with Angela Davis So they're out there.

That's that's number one Finding though the things that speak to what's important to them because that's why most people vote, you know, they're that that voting because our folks died for

because, you know, we have a responsibility, the historical implications.

That's not always the reason that's going to drive a lot of people to the polls.

People got to be able to connect it to me, to my household, to, you know, what does all it is?

When somebody said I voted because I got a stimulus check, they were able to connect something directly coming into their household.

And so when we are able to talk about politics in a way that we make it very, very relatable and understandable and help people understand how you're impacted, it lands differently.

That's a real easy simplistic.

It can be way deeper, but I'm just gonna say that for the sake of time.

The other thing that I will say real quickly to that second part, how do we keep the personal

out of this.

People gotta make a choice and a decision.

But see, people do what works.

Garbage sales.

Being mean sales.

Do you think anybody would watch Atlanta Housewives if they weren't cussing each other out and fighting and being all ignorant and ghetto and belligerent and you know, people could sit back and laugh and be entertained and crack up?

I would, I would have, what do we say all the time?

Put out something meaningful, documentary about some issue.

You can't barely get nobody to attend.

Put out some foolishness and people are attracted to it.

Campaigns are the same way.

Find the negatives.

People were willing to go after Francesca Hong about canceling Thanksgiving, but you didn't go and fight as hard about the conversation about raising the minimum wage and expanding health care.

and getting daycare for people.

People love getting mired down into silly, simple stuff.

And so I gotta go to break, but these are choices.

I behave and act in a way that I could always go back to somebody.

Those are choices I make.

I could be dirty.

I could go for the jugular.

I could dig up all the personal dirt I can on you and try to destroy you.

A, I wouldn't want nobody to do it to me.

I wouldn't want nobody to put my family through that.

And C, this is the part where I get conflicted and I have my owl moments.

Because it's a whole bunch of folks that run around here telling me they love the Lord, but they be on BS.

And they do hopeful, mean things in the course of trying to win.

and be the first one sitting there behind in church on Sunday, you know, singing the next the next hymn and amen into the preacher.

But get out here in the streets and behave very, very differently.

These are choices.

But people do what works.

Donald Trump went low and dirty because he saw that people responded to that.

We talk about both sides of our neck.

I gotta take a break.

I'll be right back.

All right, family, welcome back to the show.

So just real quick, I talked about the fact that there were elections around the country on Tuesday as we are, you know, now in the throes of the 2026 midterm election cycle.

So Wisconsin, Minnesota, Connecticut, Vermont, Alabama, South Carolina all had races in play.

And there were some singular.

take-aways from some of these individual states and the races that were run and then something that's more cumulative that we can talk about in general in looking at these races.

So let's go over to our folks, you know, to our neighbors in the Midwest, Minnesota.

There's a whole bunch of conversation about progressives versus regular Democrats versus, you know, Democratic socialists.

It's really kind of wearing on my nerves and getting

you know, is irritating.

I am never someone that has identified as a progressive.

I just say I'm a Democrat.

I think that a lot of the values typically tend to be the same.

And those kinds of, you know, labels tend to irritate me.

You know, I let people do what they want to be called what you want to, but I'm a Democrat period.

That's that's all I am.

But.

Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan won the Democratic nomination for the U.S.

Senate and she defeated a Democrat Representative Angie Craig.

Flanagan's victory, people thought was significant because it demonstrated that here's the label, progressive candidates can still win Democratic primaries when they build a strong coalition.

and define the race around issues that motivate the base because that was one of the things that people keep trying to frame the election in Wisconsin about is that progressives against.

the establishment, the Democratic Socialists against the establishment.

And I was listening to a couple of talkers on CNN and just got real irritated because one of the things that they said is, you know, Francesca Hong's message didn't resonate with black voters in Milwaukee, urban voters, blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like.

You fail to understand the dynamics in that you're talking about.

It wasn't just about her message.

She was up against a hometown son.

She was up against a well known hometown son.

There were black people that voted for Francesca home.

But the playing field is different because this was David's territory.

And that's why I like when you go back and you look at Mandela's race and he didn't.

Tony Evers outperformed him in the city of Milwaukee with black folks You expect if you understand the dynamics of this race David Crawley better had outperformed her in Milwaukee Because if he hadn't outperformed her in Milwaukee, he wouldn't have won this race He would have had a real problem so

This whole pitting progressives against Democrats and who emerges, you know as a stronger entity like on some level People need to stop this because these are in in my mind some of it is manufactured Conflict People are pretty much after the same things we differ on how to get there, but at the end of the day these groups still gonna vote as a unit

So that's one thing Down in Alabama Lord have mercy Jesus what they have done around redistricting and stripping away black political power.

It is so sickening Black I mean our voters down in Alabama were choosing congressional nominees under the newly redrawn maps the redistricting fight

You know, it's part of the larger national conversation about what we're doing to dilute black voting power and representation.

People are using whatever tools are available to them to make sure that we have fewer and fewer black folks in office.

Democratic candidates showman figures advanced in their newly configured.

second congressional district which has a significant black voting population but represents a tougher general election environment than his previous district.

So just a reminder, these lines are being drawn to shut people out.

Republicans for all you black people who love to jump on the

I'm a conservative, I'm a Republican, Republican bandwagon.

I just don't understand how all y'all stay so damn silent when you realize what these people are doing to draw black people out of being able to serve in Congress and in some of these state houses.

When you talk about what was done in Memphis, again, Congressman.

I mean, I'm sorry.

State Representative Justin Pearson, who's running for Congress, and they talk about what those can... They only had one stronghold black seat that could get somebody to Congress in Tennessee.

And they tore that district up in such a way that they stretched it from one side of the state to the other side of the state.

All of that was done to harm black...

voters and black representation.

And that was the Republican Party who many of these black faces stand up and rock with knowing that they are working to strip away this power from black folks.

But what they had not anticipated and I was thrilled to hear Justin Pearson say when I want to hear him speak is that they've been out in rural Tennessee.

and have been connecting with white and black folks in rural Tennessee.

That new area that's been added to the district now covering 15 counties instead of one county.

15 counties instead of one county.

And they are talking to these people that are struggling and finding out that they actually have more common ground.

See, that was the big thing that they always wanted to prevent from low income.

moderate income, poor white folks figuring out you being hit by the same struggles that are being directed at the black community.

And if these two groups ever got together to start challenging power structures and start demanding that things be done differently in government that benefited more people.

That's real power.

So I got to keep y'all at each other's throats because.

We don't want the multi-millionaires and billionaires.

We don't want to lose our power But the minute the people rise up you can put a stop to a whole bunch of nonsense So it's easier for me to keep y'all hating each other along racial lines Along, you know ideological lines abortion Whether you a Muslim or not religion

So that you what what they say if I distract you with this I can continue to rob you and be in your pockets and you will never understand Until it's too late Donald Trump getting ready to spend nine hundred million dollars on them those White House renovations.

That's our taxpayer money

So even though I'm gonna have to judge had blocked him

building the ballroom.

He got the helicopter pad going in.

He has other projects that nobody is monitoring.

So again, with all of this stuff that he's doing, he's trying to set this up as if it's here.

Exactly.

Exactly.

All right.

Let me take a quick break, y'all.

Carlos, I know you're holding.

I'm trying to work some of this stuff

in.

I'll be right back.

I also had our eye on South Carolina on yesterday.

We know that the effort to replace Lindsey Graham in the Republican primary, it went to a runoff.

They actually are going to have a runoff on August 25th.

Darlene Graham, Lindsey's sister, who was endorsed by Donald Trump and a Republican by the name of Ralph Norman are the two that advanced takeaways from that race.

Donald Trump's endorsement.

put her over the top in terms of getting her in the runoff.

But as you can see, Republicans still challenged.

And so people are beginning to kind of think about a little bit if Donald Trump's endorsements, if he still has the stronghold over every Republican, it seems like in the nation and whether or not those things are going to continue.

So we will keep our eye on a lot of these races.

The other thing.

that is also going on in the background is this generational kind of change.

You're beginning to see more and more younger folks step up to run for office, talking about how long some of these people are staying in office.

You start talking about 20 year incumbents, 30 year incumbents, people that's 75, 80 years old, and folks are starting to say, when is enough enough?

How long should you be able to sit there?

People are talking about term limits in different places.

So just so you know, these are some of the things that are happening around us.

Let me catch the phone line real quick.

Hey, Caller, what's

happening?

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Try the next call.

Hey, Caller, what's happening?

Hey, Rick, what's going on, man?

I just want to say that you being a Democrat, that just declares that you believe in the power and the right to vote.

But you got to get past the right to vote and get to the issues.

We very rarely get to the issues as black voters, as white voters, as all the colors in between, and all the constituencies in between.

You know, the Ralfie put Trump in office so that he would take the blows and get the attention.

But the system is rigged and corrupt.

You need to bring the constitution at the federal level into the 20th and the 21st century.

And it's hard to do that trying to get people to vote for individuals.

one by one across the country, we need a mass rush of individuals into the Congress to change the Congress.

And I don't think that's going to happen in the next 20 years.

I'm sad to say it, but I believe in the power of the vote, but I don't think the system is going to change over the next 20 years.

I'm done sister.

All right.

Thank you very appreciate the call.

Let me let me do this for a second.

I'm a switch gears because I got an interview happening around the 830 hour.

So I don't have a ton of time left this morning.

Let me highlight the Carolyn Levitt resignation from the White House.

She just got back from maternity leave.

And then the White House along with Caroline put out the statement saying that, hey,

I want to be at home with my child.

You know, I have two children and the demands of motherhood.

Um, yeah, I want to go back to the house and, uh, they say, but she's going to be a special advisor to the president, but it's not lost on a lot of people that when Donald Trump and the FBI.

or the federal agents made their move to take him off of the airplane that the Israeli government had told the US may be under attack.

When they took Trump off the plane.

Through the catering truck to get him to a different plane, and he left everybody else.

on the plane that potentially could have been shot down.

He left Caroline Levitt on the plane.

She, along with a number of White House staff members and reporters, had no idea that they were in harm's way when he got off that damn plane.

He left his girl on the plane.

And so, I don't care what the press releases and what the public facing front of this whole thing is, but just think about youth, because you know, people get to feeling pretty self-important.

She's the youngest press reporter we've ever had.

White House Press reporter we've ever had.

Donald Trump, you know, I'm sure I had you thinking you were special and above the fray and you found out you ain't mean nothing to him.

He didn't say nobody but himself.

You ain't mean nothing to him.

So I'm sure you have to go home and reconcile with the fact that you potentially were put in harm's way and the United States military and everybody involved made the decision that your life was expendable while you are sitting here carrying water

for this crazy man every day.

Yeah, baby.

That was a hard pill to swallow.

So I want to be clear.

Caroline Levitt, you ain't fooling nobody.

That had to hit a certain kind of way when you understand that you were on that flight.

And that that man got off that plane and here you are thinking you the apple of his eye You are pretty and cute.

You know how Trump feels about little young blind girls and You're special you weren't special at all.

He was gonna let you get killed I Wonder does anybody believe Barack Obama Bill Clinton George Bush even

would have behaved.

Daddy Bush and Young Bush would have behaved in this way that there was not a whole lot of thought about the people that were left on the decoy plane.

So let's just make sure we clear on that.

Let me go to the phone line.

Hey, Carl, what's happening?

Hello?

Hey, Michelle.

Hi.

Hey, how are you?

I'm good.

Mr. McNerchie.

I met you actually for the first time at the county of Sydney and my daughter.

Yes.

Yes.

I remember.

Okay.

You're doing good.

I just left Alabama.

You were speaking about that shortly ago.

I had a chance to listen to you the way I wanted to.

But prior to today, I promised you I'd just shoot out of an electric, electric central or whatever it is.

Yeah,

you yourself and I think Dr. Myers did a wonderful job in terms of helping.

I guess I would be labeled as a traditional Democrat.

I've always been, you know, somewhat apart and always contributed things of that nature that and yeah, you guys have put down a lot of things that folks like me don't quite understand because that's so not happened to be my.

life, but lately over the last few years, of course, you have to kind of, you know, dabble in there somewhat pretty much.

And that's what I've been doing.

But what I'm a little mystified of some things you were discussing, you know, typically right on board, which will basically all of your thoughts and comments and commentaries would have you.

But last week prior to that, well, last week, you were talking, you know, you

really animate about this discussion you were having about Democrats.

And I guess you basically, long story short, was saying Democrats basically throwing mud on Democrats.

And, you know, yes, I'm not a big fan of socialism and the socials and the people that's, you know, expand and run, expand government and things of this nature.

And then I think, but you think we have to realize that.

French, Justin Hong, whatever, actually, I might bulk a name up and I apologize, but we, I will say I, but I think it's more pure, wasn't pure aware of who she was, where she was, and what she was trying to accomplish.

And she kind of jumped in there and started really picking up a lot of areas that

you know, her own area is like Dane County where she's, I guess, living from and things of that nature.

But you were saying a lot that meant a lot, and I don't know the impact it made on voters, but I do know that it was a little difficult to digest because you were basically saying, and if you can help me, I'm not gonna hold you longer, but we talk about the establishment, we talk about the progressives, we talk about the various

I guess you would say parts of a democratic party.

And what I was trying to hear from you lately is that we kind of beating up on each other.

If that's the case, I understand.

But it's nice to know, then not to know.

So maybe if you could just maybe go back and elaborate on that briefly about what's going on here.

so many emails from Tamara Baldwin.

I think, how is she going to impact a brother or a colleague's campaign going forward?

And how much more of you think is going to be slain on these two candidates for government?

And then I'll let you go, my dear.

And it's a pleasure to talk to you.

All right.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate the call.

Let me say this.

When I talk about, you know, the things that frustrate me within my own party, it is that

You can have these debates.

You can discuss the issues.

You can make differences between you and your opponents without trying to literally destroy these opponents in a way that it makes them hard.

It makes it hard for them to have a political life afterwards because the attacks become so personal.

And I watched Democrats like I think that is a crying shame that and Jacobs.

who is a Democrat and sits on the Wisconsin election commission can get on social media and trash people the way that she does.

But you sit on the election commission and no, you don't lose your right to support who you want to support and to have a vote and a say.

But if Francesca Hong, which is one of the people that she attacked viscerally on social media, has to come before the election commission to have a decision made about something.

How do I expect you to behave and be fair when you trash her every chance you get on social media?

I think that there ought to be some rules and some ethics about people who hold some of these other positions But I say this even in my personal life.

I talked about I used to use the example of dating and brothers would try to talk to me and

They knew somebody else was either talking to me or interested in me and they would go out of their way to personally berate and trash their brother.

And I would tell them all the time, if you got to tear him down to elevate yourself, I don't I'm not interested in you.

You can make your case.

Now, you need to point out the differences between you all politically.

That's cool.

But the things that we began to see it was a straight out demonization of this woman who actually is serving in the legislature right now and When this race is over has to go back and serve and then may decide to run for reelection again.

She has not harmed the Democratic Party To the point that they need to turn around and try to harm her professional career

So those are the things that that frustrate me is that you don't get to do that in that way and somebody's pinging me and I was gonna say it anyway like Brother when you just said like it sounded like you're saying like I don't you know, I don't really like socialism One of the things I always caution people is you need to fully understand elements of socialism Because what a socialism get us under Franklin Delano Roosevelt who was a socialist?

it gets us Social Security and Medicare.

Tell me how many black folks don't use Social Security and Medicare.

So when you talk about I don't like socialism, you telling me you don't like Social Security and Medicare?

Public education, free public schools and state universities, that comes under socialism.

When you talk about safety net programs, full share or full stamps, Medicaid, that's socialism.

because it's the idea that we are going to all put something into the pot to make sure that these people don't fall through the cracks.

So, you know, we got to make sure we understand these terms when we telling people, I'm not for this, I'm against this.

The roads that you're driving on, the streets that that car is rolling up and down on, that's socialism.

When I was in South Africa,

Or in Kenya when I was in Kenya a couple of years ago The first question I asked because I saw so many Chinese people in Kenya.

I was like what the hell is going on over here and The brother who was driving our Jeep on one of our safaris I said, bro, what's up with all these Chinese people man?

And he was like, yeah, he said but you know the roads we riding on right now

Everyone for the Chinese people will still be riding on dirt roads.

I was like, what?

He was like, yeah, because they have not the government has not done what they need to do.

You know, people are like taking care of their own areas and there is no system like in America where y'all got public highways and freeways and interconnecting, you know, paved roads.

So the Chinese on their own were coming in and paving some of these roads in Kenya And I just looked at him When you come back to the United States when you able to get on 60 I mean leave out of Milwaukee on 94 his 65 and 65 run you straight on into Alabama that socialism That is an element of socialism so

public infrastructure y'all you got to understand Health care the idea that you know, we would create Obamacare the Affordable Care Act That's the element of socialism that people should be entitled to some basic care living in this country We got to understand these terms y'all because you got people telling you to be a socialist is bad

I'm not saying you embrace everything, but you better understand that many of the things that we enjoy and depend on one to function in this country come out of a socialist ideology.

All right.

Let me do this real quick.

Let me go to the phone line.

Phone lines are lit up, so I'm going to try to switch.

Let me go to the phone line.

Hey, Carla, what's happening?

Good morning Michelle and thank you for taking my call.

Yes ma'am.

One thing that I want to say about this socialism, when you say social security, I worked 41 and a half years.

I paid into that so that I could get my social security.

Now there's another aspect of it where people have not worked and they get social security.

You only

get

social security when you haven't worked if you have had some type of disability and you can't work So

let's not

make it.

Let's be make sure we not making it sound like people are freeloaders and getting over on the system

No, no, I'm trying to make sure that people that have worked hard Michelle and paid into this You I don't look at it like you doing me a favor when I pay for that benefit.

Well, let me be clear

The way that that system is set up in the first place It's only set up because FDR them comes in and says we got to have a way to make sure that people are okay in their later years in life So there would have been no system to pay into if they hadn't created it under Socialism, but go ahead.

Okay.

The term socialism came about We were getting those benefits

Now they're putting a name to it.

So let me just go on, it's a whole bunch of things that I, let me just add another thing.

These candidates that are running, David Crawley is running now.

Not only is he doing this campaign, he's still expected to be county exec.

And if you are any friend to him, be that friend.

Don't put no demands on his time.

and make him try to show up for you in his calendar school.

Because you'll have a special place that other people won't have.

You know what I'm saying?

And these people that didn't vote for him and smiling in his face, he knows who they are, and God knows who they are.

He has to stay focused on one thing, and that's beating this Republican guy.

And if anybody got any off with him, chill it down to just that.

Getting rid of the least as many Republicans in office as we can.

And I don't think it's gonna take us 20 years because every time an election come up, we should be grooming somebody to get in place.

Let's stop being small minded and all this other crap.

And you know, hurt feelings don't get into politics.

like it's been stated.

If you've got thin skin, and if you don't have no balls, get out of the game because we don't need you.

It's too critical.

Have a great day.

All right.

Thank you so much.

I just want to make one point.

The term socialism, we can go back to the 1820s and the 1830s and find when it first appeared in print.

in November of 1827 in this magazine called The Cooperative, published by followers of Robert Owen.

In French, the word socialism a said that all wrong was popularized and claimed by the followers of Claude Henry, the same Simon around 1832.

So I just want to be clear.

Socialism.

Is not a new term.

That term goes way back, way back.