Exploring the Impact of Black-Owned Businesses and Historical Landmarks

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Exploring the Impact of Black-Owned Businesses and Historical Landmarks

Say Something Real · Tue Jul 7, 2026

Good morning. Good morning. What's happening? Family. Welcome to the show. It is Michelle Bryant here at WNOV 868 AM 106.5 FM. You are listening to say something real and real talk. It's going to be hot today. Look, oh my God, y'all are already checking in this morning on YouTube, Facebook. What's going on? Family is good to see you. I see that, uh, even out Kenya look like, is that right?

the number one spot. And you know, it's a song for that. That's right. Loota fans, baby. Number one spot. We're gonna start calling, can you email, can you, uh, Loota? And then I see everybody checking in. What's going on, Dorothy Jean? Can't say your name and not think about my man, Keon. What's up, Mr. Walters? How are you? Hey, Solis. Solis.

uh envelope arrived yesterday your letter came yesterday uh i'll reach out to you but i saw it like yesterday uh good morning what's up terry jones miss harris how you doing this morning what's up ma race what's going on i'm happy this don't ask for ever checking in it is good to see you all what's happening gail uh nice to see you there so we appreciate y'all checking in this morning and then also for my folks that text me

What's happening, Dion? What's going on, Adeline? It is good to be back in the building. Let me say good morning to the brothers. What's wrong? You are right this morning. We got to do something. Is something going on? Spectacular. What's going on, Camille? I see you. Hey, Carolyn, I see y'all.

You're spectacular. Hey, Maggie. Off work. Can finally watch all morning. Hey, I know that's right. Look, I was Maggie. I need to be off. I need to be off too. Anybody that's listening. Let me say good morning to the brothers. Right out. Yes, ma'am. Dude, stop trying to flex with all these brewers caps, man. I'm sick of you. You got every color. We home teaming. I mean, I'm like, these aren't even the team colors. Y'all got like all kind of brewers.

First way. Look, I'm gonna have to start like rapping. So I guess I should go to a game now. Did you say? Yeah. It's a good, it's a good time. I haven't done it in a long time, but I must admit, um, but I go to the stadium for dinner all the time, especially when the boys coming to town. Oh my God, it's time for them to come back from camp today. I think they need to come back today or tomorrow.

Dang! They're refrigerated. They're refrigerated. About to get messed up. Oh, you just made me sad, man. Stanky shoes about to be in the hallway. Feet, man.

They gonna come downstairs itching and scratching. They ain't watchin' nothing. Openin' the refrigerator door. You like, I'm tellin' you, your mama be like, did you wash your hands and face when you got up before you go up my refrigerator? Ah, the whole cleanliness is over. Still in our computers to make music. Man! Okay, Jermaine, you made me sad, okay.

Because the brewers reminded me of the stadium. That's the way I take it. You know, it's all connected. But you good, brother? Listen, Shale, well, it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. It's so beautiful.

yeah yeah the sun is shining it's it's today 85 yeah it's gonna be 85 degrees but it's not gonna be human is that right yeah so you know 85 I just want to check now are you a

HBCU meteorologist grad or at the house graduate on the block news report. That's what it's all on the block. You know what? I was on civic media looking for some

one of my shows and it seemed Michelle's weather report. I was like, don't put that on me. This is your May Foolishness. Exactly. I'm like, whoever doing the move.

little snippets about the time on the outline of the show. Don't don't attribute that to me to about Michelle's weather report. I was highly offended. It is your weather report. That raggedy mess you do is not. You and me. We a team around here, man. Clark, you put a team to it. Isn't that generous of you? Well, team. Well, hello, team member Clark. How are you this morning?

That was a lot of energy this morning. How you feeling, man? You sound like you're real good over there.

What are we so good about cuz I got up? I mean We got some extra money Another child in the house I mean Why do we behave in that way No, we won't

Oh, happy birthday goes out to all the cancers out there. Happy birthday to you. Really? Yeah. Isn't Keith a cancer? Yeah, because he tripped out. Cancer season. Yeah. It's a What? What? What can I say? Um, what do you say? Um, what was his word?

Empathetic, you know, empathic. It was something he would say. I don't be like, you're a crybaby. That's what you are. That's what you are. So who else is nobody? Are you a cancer? No. Oh, OK. So you're saying Aries, my mother. OK. OK. Again, everybody got that family member who they.

Keep up with the astrological signs. Yeah, so when a baby be born, they be like, oh, here come a tourist. About to mess up the family. I feel like, honey, come on now. No, don't bring her over here, because she's a tourist. I don't get along with tourists. Oh, hey, she's two days old. Yeah, keep her. Remember back in the days, remember back in the days they used to have the mom.

the zodiac sign you can put on your back of your window in your car. OK, like the cancer. So I saw it. Never did it. That was a different level. There was a dude down at Juneteenth this year selling hats with the big Leo on it, Aries on it. I was like, do people still rock them? Because I mean, it was like as big as your Brewers logo.

He was selling them down not far from where we were by rising grind. Oh snap If I'm not mistaken Rising grinds last day open is gelatin For people that support that establishment, I think it is I think it's Saturday And they're gonna do a big thing, you know Spread set it out. But if I'm not mistaken, I will find out

I told you all, and we talked about it a little bit on the show when we did the Juneteenth show from their establishment that they were closing. Hopefully, there will be another reiteration and a different location of the restaurant, but for now, rising grinding set to close. It was one of the spots, if I'm not mistaken, that Milwaukee County residents could go to get.

for the Meals on Wheels program, if you had like the meal program that allowed you to dine out or be a senior and pay like $3 or so to eat there. I think that was also one of the restaurants that was utilized for that as well. So we need to flood the zone. Let me make sure I got the date right, but I do believe I thought she told me it was July 10th, but we need to flood the zone, go through and support.

It's a lot of people, you know, once you rise and grind, held it down. Other folks, not so much. I'm going to tell people all the time, I'm terrible because number one, I'm not doing a bunch of, you know, like.

early morning, mid afternoon, restaurants kind of thing, just because of the way my work schedule is. Then I have to honestly be intentional about driving over to go to a place. You hate them when you realize that we are about to lose this establishment. I'll get the information for us, but let's make sure we support them and send them out of the door.

in the way that indicates how much we appreciated and value them as a community partner and hopefully to see their return. Let me take a moment and turn to a story that I saw yesterday before I came in. I didn't talk about it while I was on the air and I'm being honest that I was waiting on some additional information because I just wanted to be able

to have the conversation with a degree of background to understand kind of what was going on. Some of you actually put it in the chat yesterday, this young brother's name. And the crazy thing is this morning with the people that are already online, there are other names of young black men who have come up missing, come up murdered, you know.

dying under suspicious circumstances. I have talked about that. We got in the chat justice for Carmelo Anthony, wrongfully accused of murder as opposed to this brother being able to be seen as self-defense standing his ground, if you will. Also Cyrus Belton.

Um, you know, so just so you know, like already Nolan Wells, his name is committed to memory just like that. Didn't know this young brother from anybody, you know, a couple of days ago and just like that, his name is now committed to memory. His name will be added to a long list of suspicious deaths. Uh, you know, his name will be on a T shirt.

for all the wrong reasons. And so, for folks that have been following this story, there was initial reports that this young 18-year-old athlete, who his name is Nolan Xavier Wells, he was last seen in this area on Horn Island, which is about 10 miles off the coast of Mississippi. And this was on Saturday, July 4th.

He and some friends had all gone down to hang out for the 4th of July or gone to the area to hang out for the 4th of July weekend. And the three friends come back and. No one does not. And so as you know, people tried to figure out like, so what's going on? You had.

At first, it was kind of like silence coming from the three young men and the three young men that Nolan was with. Nolan is African American, his three peers, white and white teenagers or white young men. And very little was being said by them about where was Nolan. And then you began to hear a couple of things where they were saying that

He started acting weird and he told them he would walk home and You know, but you see all the pictures everybody's kicking it having a good time, but then You know, he's acting weird. Well, what led up to the weird? describe weird what specifically was he doing and

So the parents, you know, they reach out to local authorities when he does not return and they, you know Enlist a massive search to be able to try to find this young man. He went missing at 3 p.m. on July 4th and There were a number of agencies that came together to search for him

July 5th, July 6th, they finally found him on yesterday. And I mean, but they had people that were out searching for him. They use planes, they use boats. The United Cajun Navy, they were out active and they put out something on their Facebook page. We are actively engaged in the search effort for Nolan Wells alongside our public safety partners. So all of these folks are out trying to.

look for him. And they put the description out, you know, six feet tall, six feet one inches tall, 180 pounds, you know, they had the swim trunks. They had everything, the photos that you've seen of him sitting on the boat, sitting with this boys, all of that was out there. And there were, you know, alerts being sent out left and right.

So many people started to get the news, unfortunately, that a body had been found and that his parents confirmed, his mother did a social media post in which they confirmed yesterday afternoon that the body that had been found matched the description. Well, at first, the Jackson County Sheriff's Office.

And the corner, they confirmed that the body that had been found matched the description of Nolan Wells, but then his parents put out a statement, his mother put out a statement and she confirmed that in fact it was her child. He would have turned 19 in August and he was set to return to Southwest Mississippi Community College for practice for football season. He was a wide receiver for the team.

And in the statement from the school, you know, they talked about being heartbroken at the tragic loss of this young brother. But. It's just crazy because they had just gone out on the boat earlier that day and by 3 p.m. His mom is reporting him missing. And there is a go fund me campaign.

for the family. I'm not sure if all of this, you know, is needed to help with burial expenses or what's happening for this young brother, potentially legal fees as they try to pursue justice for Nolan. But one of the things that I noted when the mom put out her post and she said, you know, please give us

time and an opportunity to grieve. A lot of people blew right past that request on her social media page. They lit on that social media post. They lit the post up. And there was a obvious degree of frustration and rage and concern. And in some cases, you know,

not outright attacks on Nolan's parents, but people who pointedly said, you know, we have to pay attention to who our children's friends are. Or, you know, a lot of people said, you know, y'all believe they, they friends where we send our children, where they go to school, who we, you know,

people talked about black flight from black communities trying to make sure that they were around predominantly white kids and white schools because they thought better education, better access to resources, better opportunities. And so when I say, I only saw one comment on her post that I took the time to scroll through and look at and at some point I just stopped looking because it was so many. Only one comment in which

One of the individuals said, hey, can we give this family a minute before y'all start going in? Can you wait? And at some point, somebody says, do you know how many names we can put up here with this young man's name? That this year, last year,

the number of suspicious deaths and many which will get attributed to a suicide and Accident you know to this this day that young black kid that was found dead rolled up in a mat and They said he did it to himself Is the most asinine thing I've ever heard So I understand

the level of angst and frustration that folks were voicing regarding the missing, you know, I mean, this young man being found and the circumstances that may have led up to it. I think that the overt silence of the young men is very interesting, very telling to me. Like I said, I was waiting yesterday because I'm like,

It's not enough to say right now other than he's missing Didn't realize they were gonna find his body yesterday We got callers on the line, let me get a couple in before I have to go to break Hey caller, what's happening? Good morning, bro. How you doing this morning?

And just so you know, and just so you know, when I get a greeting, I don't always remember the correct way to say it back. So I typically don't say it back. So just not disrespect. I just don't like butchering and making a mistake when I respond after getting the greeting and muscle, you know, the greetings. I just want to, you know, I just want to make sure for people for you, for people listening to.

because I yeah I just don't like doing it because I'm like I mess it up every time but go ahead bruh anyway you got a some speaker you got a some speaker yeah can you take us off it's hard to hear you hello can you hear me now yeah you're yeah we good

for uh you not returning the rudeness if you are and they don't and they understand uh you know how our people have been here in America and how we've been reared up you shouldn't get offended by that so i don't never take offense to that because some people don't know how to say street you know what i mean so but uh or spaghetti or or

You know? Yes, sir. What's that word? What's that word? Why are you trying to say? Calculation or something? You're trying to say? He's calculus. He's trying to say he couldn't say calculus. All right. This is more hard than I ever see him saying. But about the young brother knowing, I saw that on the internet.

And then they were talking about some other young black people, and this one brother was calling them like the token black friend or something like that. But I'm not saying that. What I'm thinking is that because I remember when I was in college, Caucasian students, they invited me to go white water rafting with them. And I'm like black, and I would know about swimming. But I was like, look at me. I got nappy here. And one was like, oh no, white water rap.

with a whole bunch of white people riding down bricks and mountains. And, you know, we had a current or something, right? So my mama told me this, and I'm gonna go with this. My mama said, don't never go nowhere with white folks where you can't be seen. You do, that's what she said. All right. Thank you, bro. I appreciate the call. Got another caller. Let's get the man. Hey, caller, what's happening? Good morning, champ. Good morning.

Okay, this is Annette. I recently lost my son, so I know what grief is. I lost him March 22nd of this year. Oh, please accept our condolences. Thank you. Thank you, God bless you. However, I love you. We put out polls for him. He's down in Tennessee. We have yet to find him.

And I don't and that was a year ago or over a year ago on Christmas Eve He worked at Walmart. Yeah, you called us about him before remind people of his name, please And we put posts out we use your radio stations series XM everything we could do my sister and her daughter put out DNA to the Detectives down there

And, you know, they found a lot of young men decapitated in Tennessee. And the bodies were never identified. And that's a gruesome thing to say this morning, but it's the facts. So when they sent that report out, my sister and I just cried on the phone. But he is here to be found.

We don't think it's good. So we have accepted that. I just wanted to tell you that, but the mothers that are out there, please, if you don't do nothing else, there's something that we started doing in our family. Text a thing to your parents and say, I'm okay. Right. I'm okay. Nothing else during the week.

If you're out there in the street, so you're doing something, say, mom, it could be some ideas on your phone too, but this could be a special pass or something they wouldn't know. Only you and your parents would know. I try to come up with these little ideas to share with you all. It would just help. I love you, and I thank you, and God bless you, your family, and the radio station.

for allowing me to speak. I love you. Bye-bye. Thank you, Ms. Annette. And I went and I pulled up because I remember Ms. Annette calling in the young brother's name, Willie Chamberlain III. He has been missing, as she said, since December 24th, 2024. He was last seen near Kirby Parkway in Mount Moriah in Memphis, Tennessee. They said and had not been seen or heard from since.

And it's so funny because he kind of pushed her in the mind of Mandela Barnes. When you look at them, they they have similar facial features. But I remember I remember when she called in and just think about that reality that for a year, this family has no answers about.

Their their loved one, you know, I kept trying to figure out like how do you as a parent even go to sleep? You know not knowing where your child is and I got to go to break but That thing that she said about the texting as I tell people my son is good and grown he's somebody daddy and When my when my son is moving around in different parts of Georgia

Because you know, he's going somewhere here goes hour and a half this way two hours is what hey, hey, hey, bro Check in along the way Check in when you get there check in when you on your way back and Like it's just the rule and he appeases me because he knows how I am about Georgia And so he's like my I got it. I got it, you know, but We will continue conversation on the other side of the break be right back

All right, family, welcome back to the show. So I will take in this last caller and then I'm going to switch gears. But if there's anyone else that wants to call in regarding the situation with this young brother, Nolan Wells, please feel free, even if I have moved on to a different topic. Again, I did commentary about this a few shows ago in which.

the frustration of all of these African American people, predominantly men, but the number of people that have died by suspicious circumstances because.

You know, already I was seeing something about potentially Nolan hit his head and blunt, you know, blunt force trauma and like, you know, like some accident, like you already starting to hear certain things kind of float around. But these three white friends are way too quiet for me. If my guy is missing, even if we fell out, I'm helping to search. I'm at the scene.

You know, I'm saying look, this is what happened and this is where he went This is not Something that I'm at the house while everybody I looking for a cat that was just out with us this morning. None of that makes sense to me That other conversation that black folks are having out loud now About and I don't and that's why I said I held back Because you don't know the circumstances

I don't know exactly where this young man was raised. I don't know what school system he was educated in. I know where he goes to community college. But a lot of people made the assumption that because he was kicking it with three white friends, that this was one of the classic tales of the Black family moves to a suburban neighborhood, trying to get away from whatever it is in Black communities that they find to be.

You know not not for them and that people get comfortable and start hanging out with folks and You know, you let your guard down and you end up in these crazy situations. I don't know any of that yet I don't know anything about this family. I don't know where this child was raised. I don't know what the situation was

And I just that's why I said I was waiting for more to come out before talking about it because people have already created the narrative. I was listening to a show on the way in this morning. And there's some of the things or things that I have seen, but I still don't know the facts yet of this case and this situation. But there is there is a conversation that some Black parents are now willing to have about when we have done the George and Weezy.

And we've moved on up to that deluxe, you know, house in the suburban sky. What comes with that? How are our children and what's the trade off? If there's one, most black folks think it is in terms of, oh, they got a quality education, but socially, you know.

And you know, and I think a lot of parents deceive themselves about how those environments impact their children whether it is You know all of a sudden kids start talking you can hear like the pitch and they voice change and you know black girls sound like Valley girls now

The the music choices, you know, are that of the mainstream group that they go to school with. That's just natural. It's normal. But then to start paying attention to the way they talk about black people, black issues, black schools, black things because you can adopt whatever the mentality of your group is. So. It's something that.

I've always been conscientious of, cognizant of, and there were situations I refused to put my son in. Just no, no. Yeah, no. And that just comes, you know, from learned experience. So anyway, it goes. My heart goes out to this family. Just not sure.

how this whole thing is going to play out. But I just find the behavior of these three young friends. I just find it interesting. I find it not normal. Let me go to the phone line. Hey, Caller, what's happening? Good morning, Michelle. Good morning. Thanks for taking my call. And my heart also goes out to the family of Nolan Wells. The George and Weezy hit a nerve with me. Thank you for keeping it real. I think some of us

is still caught with the President Obama phase where, okay, your kid can go to schools that are diverse and have clear friends, which is make sure you don't have those play dates and still send them to the Boys and Girls Club for that balance. But with Trump in the office and things that I've learned since after President Obama, it is making me scratch my head and think twice.

My comment is about the Nolan Wells family. Why wouldn't she just turn off the comments so that she wouldn't have to go through the abuse of why have your kid with all these queer people friends or the job think that the white ice was colder? She could have just turned off her comments in my opinion. And then your nephews, did you send them to camp and were they the only chocolate kids up here at the camp? So again, it's just hard to find that balance with

This is our country, we should be able to explore everything and reap the benefits of everything, but it is Trump America as well, and baby Nolan was down in Mississippi at the end of the day. Mayor Jackson, Mississippi, was he well voted or was he being greedy? Thank you, Michelle, for taking my call. All right, thank you.

So somebody that's listening, they talked about the area that Dolan was in and they said that the Gulf Coast is pretty diverse. Ocean Springs, Mississippi is predominantly white, though. It's about seven percent black somewhere in that that range, which is where he was. And then to the piece about, you know, President Obama and, you know, Trump and clearly.

the deference being that, you know, it has become fashionable to be racist. Folks that had repressed it are so excited and gleeful that now I get to say anything I want to because I got a whole United States government that's going back me in my ignorance. I got a president that's going to pardon me for my ignorance and my behavior. So.

Yeah, I'm just going to just say yeah. A couple of other things this morning. And we will continue to talk about Nolan as more information becomes available. But again, his name has joined a long list of folks that this just makes no sense whatsoever. It makes no sense.

The Midtown project coming back locally for a second the Midtown Center There was an announcement that came out yesterday The developer of the Midtown Center has removed the data center from its plans after the Public feedback this I'm pulling from a story from Spectrum news, but you all had an opportunity to see it Alderman Mark Chambers Jr. Made this announcement on yesterday

The computing facility, as they have called it, would have taken about 19,000 square feet of space. That's about 12% of the footprint of this project from the former Walmart store, which is 160,000 square feet. It was described as a data processing and computer research and services facility.

According to city records, AFS, Milwaukee, LLC, which owns the Walmart building is looking to redevelop the space into affordable housing, a new public library, and some city offices. It also mentioned that the data processing facility, which do the attention of residents, sounded a lot like a data center.

the developer of the property made the decision to remove that after three public information sessions and testimony that was presented before the city plan commission.

quote, the decision to remove the computing research facility reflects what can happen when residents engage, local governments listen, and all parties remain willing to find common ground, said Alderman Chambers in a statement. By removing the computing research facility, the focus returns to what matters most to our community, transforming a long vacant property into a destination that delivers housing, a new Milwaukee Public Library branch, neighborhoods serving amenities and lasting benefits for residents. So there were a number of folks that

that were doing a victory lap of sorts because of that decision by these folks to pull that aspect out of the project. My comments are more reserved. While I'm certainly glad for the community that they raised concerns about this project.

There are things I still don't like about the way it unfolded things that I still question about. How a lot of this was shoved down people's throat, you know, folks don't get the benefit of information.

in a timely manner when a library is going to leave one automatic district and go to another district, but the older person or older woman in this case doesn't appear to have known that this library was going to be removed from her district. How the hell does that happen? How do you have whole plans and discussions to move the library out of a district into another district and the older woman does not know?

the library system itself from the loose things and conversations that I've had and things that I've read and heard, they didn't seem like they had any voice or say in what went on with this project. A lot of this was a done deal by the time the public heard about it. Only after the public rises up,

is extremely vocal, you know, starts talking about recalling people and, you know, clown in city hall about these meetings that you see a little bit of a movement. But there's still, I believe, is another vote that has to happen from the overall common council who will likely go with, you know, what has been presented. But don't start patting people on the back and old people listen and, you know, we care you a lot.

You were forced to do something different. But you had planned to move forward without talking to the community in the first place at all. Had it not been for that zoning meeting and people getting wind of what's happening, there was no on the front end before we start talking about the project.

that we make people aware of what we're thinking of, what we may be trying to do. No, it came with a bow already wrapped and here you go. And then people started pulling the threads on the bow and was like, no, no, no. So and even that piece about oh, in a storage facility, you know. And I don't I don't I don't subscribe a lot to conspiracies.

But I do pay attention to stuff that just seems odd to me. While, yes, this was a tiny fraction, as pointed out in this article or this story on Spectrum. But you had a huge amount of space that was going to be a storage center. And as I say before, how easy is it to convert the storage space to a larger data facility? How easy is it to convert it? Super easy.

Because anybody that's been in the storage facility, you already know them little fake walls and all that stuff come down in the blink of an eye. So we talked about whether or not there were going to be limits on expansion and what could be done. So I'm just saying someone said, how should we manage investment and by whom? Well, in this case, they weren't even willing to tell you who one of the partners at the table was. Think about that.

There's somebody wants to invest and do business in your neighborhood, but they want to remain anonymous. So I get the question to the brother that just sent me the question in terms of managing investment and by home, but I at least need to know who I'm dealing with on some level. And when the most concerning aspect of the project is not.

Revealing the identity of who that partner is that's problematic So Yeah, but hopefully again, you know people appreciate You got to be engaged. You got to raise your voices. You got to be concerned You got to show up you got to keep up the pressure Usually when you do you get the desired outcome

This is a this is a great example of that But I still don't like how it was done. I'm not I'm not gonna look away from the way it was handled in the first place Let me go to the phone line. Hey caller. What's happening? Hello It's hard to hear you you got a son speaker or you muffled a little bit

Okay. Hi. Hi. I'm on the radio in there. Yes, you are. I want to go to your phone is going in and out. Do you have us on speaker? Yeah, I do. I'm not on the radio right now. Yes, ma'am. You're right now.

I'm gonna have Jermaine just pick up and speak to you. Okay, hold on one second, Jermaine. Find out what's going on with our police. So, yeah, so in any case, what we're now being told is that the midtown development will move forward without the data center. And we'll just continue to follow. We'll continue to follow the whole thing.

Uh, who is this? The property owner is Trent Overhoe of affordable family storage. And they said he previously told, and this is was in our paper, the walking courier. He was not building a data center at the site, but instead of smaller computing research facility at what house private tenants with the first being in the medical field.

But when the word spread, that's when folks start, you know, asking these questions. And so at this point, he has said, you know, hey, we'll pull this out. But we have been here and stuff like the deal doesn't happen if that data slash computing facility was not going to be a part of the deal. That's what people were saying. How much of that is true? I do not know. But I guess I'm just not.

Huge on patting people on the back who tried to screw me in the front in the first place I'm just not That's just me But yeah, I'm not I'm not cheering for nobody and I saw some posts on Facebook where folks was like always just want to think you know blah blah blah for doing I'm like y'all need to quit because see Don't try to handle me and force something down my throat and then when

Enough saying gets raised about it that it makes the project uncomfortable moving forward. Then gears get, you know, reverse. And now I'm like, oh, I just want to say you did a great job. I held. No, no, no, no, no, no. And some people's naivete shows up way too well for me. No. Because again, how was it being done in the first place?

By the time the community learns about it. This is a done deal a Done deal So I just want to be clear about that not not overly I'm not overly impressed. I'm glad for the resolution in terms of the residents, but that means you need to keep your eye on people You need to watch how people do business and what people are willing to do to help other folks get things accomplished because it's the other part

Midtown been looking a whole full mess for a long time. So, on one hand, oh, I care about the development going in, but you don't care enough to make sure the people that own the damn property cut the weeds out the parking lot that was growing up through there like trees. When somebody called the station because I don't go over there and somebody was like, Michelle, no, you got to ride over there.

So, don't pretend I care about the community and you don't even care enough to make the owner of the property, you know, take care of that property. Just like I was so glad to see finally this Burger King parking lot. I don't know if Valerie Daniels still own that property, but somebody was finally up there cutting some of that grass up there because it looked a fool and it's embarrassing and it make the whole rest of the community look bad.

You know, I'm just gonna say this. For some of y'all who claim, oh, I care so much about the neighborhood, man, you need to ride through your neighborhood and look at all of these dilapidated, bumped out, broken down, abandoned properties. How can we deal with some of that? Because some of these, I don't know how people live on some of these streets.

with some of these properties in the level of disrepair and the grass are overrun and the property just look a hot mess, but on a big commercial property like that Walmart. The Alderman in that district was saying nothing, at least not enough for me where you got trees growing in the parking lot, growing through concrete. It just looked a filthy mess over there.

So people say oh, I care and I'm listening but you don't do the basics You don't do the basics. Oh, I found out that Val does not own that property Yeah, y'all don't y'all don't do the basics Did this this is simple stuff Who are the owners they don't come do it the city go take care of it and put it on the tax bill

or however it goes, whatever the process should be. So I am just going to say that somebody said, I'm just listening to all, okay, wouldn't the library board have to communicate with impacted Alderman? You would think, but it seemed like the library board, what's going on Colorado? It looked like the library board didn't know. That's what I'm saying. It was shady stuff going on in the beginning of this project.

That speaks volumes about how some of these people was willing to do business in relationship to our community And so just because there's you know, there's now we gonna pull this piece out I'm I'm not I'm not jumping up and down for that because I understand what you was willing to do had you been able to get away with it and This is all the players involved, but I do want to understand

how nobody is respectful in this process, that we're going to move a library out of an Aldermanic district, that Alderman does not appear to have been included in these conversations, and we're going to move it into another district. Residents of the previous district are not giving their heads up, and I don't care if it's right down the street or not, it's still a move from one Aldermanic district to another.

And it does not seem like the library board was abreast of any of what was really going on. I could be wrong. I hope somebody proves or, you know, puts out information that says, no, Michelle, all the players were informed. The other woman was told the library board had, you know, some input, you know, all of the pieces were done. And I, and again, I came on the air and I said, I've been hearing that they said that if

that facility was not included, the project was a no-go. And people came on Facebook, they came on social media, and they said, text messages, that's exactly what was said.

So no, I'm not getting ready to jump up and down and you know, oh Put now pose to my some of you. You did a great jacket. Let me get out of here Because y'all gotta understand what somebody intended to mess over you and then because you caught them and you put applied pressure and then they reverse course I don't congratulate you for that. Oh, we listen to the people know you got caught

That's what happened You the people realize the games that was being played I Anyway, so I'ma I'ma move on and and be done with that I Think I need to go to commercial Jermaine. Yeah, let me go to commercial so I'ma go to commercial and

To Jermaine on the phone, whoever you talk to, bro, tell me we gotta go to commercial. Get their name and number, so we gotta go to commercial. Because it's a lot to get to on the other side. But, cause I'ma tell y'all, some people got some beef with Barack Obama. And, did you say right Clark?

You're not right. But they do. It's the people who got beef with Barack Obama. And let me be clear, man, I'll defend Barack Obama probably harder than his wife will defend him because that's my man. But what they got beef with him about? Yeah, I got beef with him, too. So we'll be right back.

All right, family, welcome back to the show. So I got a couple of callers. Let me get them in and we're going to tackle some other things. Hey, caller, what's happening? What's going on, sir? How are you doing? I'm doing quite well. Thank you. How about yourself? I cannot complain.

And obviously a good morning to my favorite people. This is your man right out. And Mr. Clark here. Jay Tizzle, what up? Are they favorites? Yeah, I think favorites. Here, did y'all turn the air off? Wait, hold on.

Excuse me, JT

is fogging up up in here. And I'm like, is there air hole? But you got the fan blowing over you. Too hot. Too hot, baby. Go ahead, JT. I'll get back to your name later. Please do. No, Misha, I just want to call there quickly and say, I'll get the post offices off. That's off. Tick State from Brian Joe Rowe yesterday morning.

I ran into this very outstanding person that we all know. Who? Who is outstanding? Especially when I heard her voice. Really? I got to find out and had the opportunity to meet the outstanding mayor of Brown D. O'Role, Ms. Wanda Montgomery. Oh, yes, yes. Yes. And she, you know, so how did you do it with her? Because was it the hair? Was it the voice?

The voice, yes. Yeah, very distinctive voice. Fantastic, too. But you can have a very distinctive voice. And yeah, it was a wonderful meeting, huh? And very nice. We dated each other. We were small, quick hugs. I told her who I was. She said, oh, that's you, huh? No, I'm just kidding. But no, it was very nice meeting Miss Wanda Montgomery yesterday. Outstanding, outstanding lady.

Yeah, and our Jemaine, I heard you called in to AirShop and show yesterday kind of pretend you was me. Jemaine is more telling than I thought. He called in to AirShop to show yesterday kind of pretend he was me.

You're very talented young man. Well, I appreciate that. And I'll put the fan back on the shelf. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. All right. I appreciate it. Let's go to the other caller. Hey, caller, what's happening? Good morning. Good morning. Anything that man touches, as I say, turn the sugar or honey ice tea. Which man is that?

Come on now. Let me let me keep going. Wait, are you talking about the man who gave bad luck to the US soccer team? The man who gave bad luck to the New York Knicks? I just said the soccer team first. I really believe this is why we lost last night because he interfered. So, because guess what?

because they let come back. He didn't do nothing. Man, he was trash out there. He wanted money to play. And he was a star. He was a star. They didn't call your name not one time in the game. But you know, you had like everything working against them. And then to add insult to injury, that last goal, it was just like, it was just like, here you go.

And the whole world was rooting against us I know it was Americans that wasn't even sad like you know what that's what that's what Hey, that's karma because you as a government official didn't have no business interfering in that game

No, I mean that call and I let you know and I let you know one word can be make up make a whole society of Soccer cooking as they call it now, right? No, and I mean like I said, it's already notoriously corrupt, but this just solidified it but the idea that a sitting president would try to intervene and I understand that it may have been done once before back in the 60s I got to go back and look at the timeline, but just the idea that you

Like, you know, I know about these things. I'm sorry, you play soccer, wean, you referee playing, you know, come on, man. You know, you know, he only got 10% body fast. Stop playing. Nobody knows. He raised 180 pounds. That's what his doctor said. That's what the doctor said. All the different people, all the different countries talk about this.

They were so upset about it. And then they're gonna say they're gonna throw this in here. Yeah. And he gets a fake Nobel Peace Prize. For they made it up. And he had it done to be sent here to my life. This is a great honor. I just want to say thank you. They gave him a soccer ball. Yeah, like they gave him a goal for the day. That's crazy.

It just was embarrassing. And again, nobody, nobody felt bad for us. Nobody. And you try to cheat the wind. You try to cheat the wind and it backfire. Yeah. Because. But I love it though, because he took credit for the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. I called. Yes, I did. I told him. So you own all of that. Oh, yeah. Did you see the speech before we say, but if we lose, I'm just going to say it's rigged like the 2020 election. I did not hear that.

Oh, yes, he said that. He did not say that. Man, this dude is the king of petty. Oh, my. What? Look at him. He didn't say that. I will look at it. All right. If that happens, he says he's going to say his word about the 2020 election. All right. Thank you, bro. I appreciate you.

I just can't believe people follow this raggedy individual. Oh my god. That's how you know racism and hate will probably forever be in this world until whatever in the Bible is the coming and everything get blown up until we start over scratch. It will that because it is only that level of hatred and ignorance.

against other people that could allow you to follow somebody who is so morally bankrupt and so corrupt and people who Barely got teeth in their mouth sitting up. I support him. I love him You know, he's I vote for him no matter what when this man is becoming the richest president in history In a year and a half

In a year and a half of a four year term this man has a mass more money than he's probably ever had off of They did a little graph that talked about all the stock trades and Investment stuff that was done by former presidents and it was like Clinton zero Biden zero Obama zero young bush zero Donald Trump 3,000 726 or

It was some some combination of that number three thousand two hundred and seventy six. But that's how many stock trades he had done while as a sitting president and off of stuff that you got insider information on or just with you talking about an issue can change the market dynamics. But OK, I digress. Let me catch this caller. Hey, Carla, what's happening? Good morning, Angela. How are you this morning? I'm good.

That's good. That's good to hear. Um, I was wondering, is there any way possible that you can get with me sometime today, give me a call later if we have time? So why you just didn't text me that, Angela? I've been doing a lot.

Why you just didn't text me just text me Angela Okay But you didn't leave

But I see you. It's gonna go down. It's gonna be on the news. Bye. Bye, y'all. No. That's how you know this real family right here. Because she knows she's gonna get cussed out. And she ready for it too. She ready to give me mine. It's gonna go down. Oh my god. Okay. So this is what I want to do. This is what I want to do. First of all,

to give respect and pay homage. There was a recent announcement that George E. Johnson has passed away. Now, some folks will go, who was George? Because, you know, you think of Johnson, Johnson Publishing? Nope, not that Johnson. George E. Johnson, if you remember Soul Train, Soul Train sponsored by

So taking from the New York Times, Georgie Johnson, a haircare magnet who rose from a sharecroppers cabin to found with his wife, Joan, what was said to be the first black owned company listed on a major American stock exchange and who made a fortune.

on products like Ultrasheen and Afrosheen. He died yesterday in his home in Chicago. He was 99 years old. His death was confirmed by his second wife, Madeleine Murphy, Raab, who said the cause was respiratory illness.

Long before sports figures, entertainers and Fortune 500 executives commanded sky high salaries, the Johnson Products Company, which sold black care care products and cosmetics, made its founder, Mr. Johnson, one of the nation's wealthiest African Americans. He also helped found one of the first and largest

Black owned banks, the Independence Bank of Chicago, where he served as chairman until it was sold in 1995. And for decades, Johnson products indirectly influenced pop culture through its sponsorship and the nationally syndicated dance television show, Soul Train. Johnson products originated in the laboratory of Samuel B Fuller, a black

cosmetics entrepreneur, where Mr. Johnson worked after dropping out of high school. Up to that point, his experience, starting at the age of nine, when an aunt gave him a shoe shine box, had been menial jobs. Mr. Johnson started at fuller products as a salesman, quote, carrying the black bag as he put it, though he initially founded distressing to pedal pomade and face power amid urban deprivation.

I had a problem with it unless I really needed the money. He said in an interview for this obituary. Then I would sell it like hell. After requesting to work indoors, Mr. Johnson created his first product, a hair relaxer for men he called Ultra Wave. With Mr. Fuller's blessing, Mr. Johnson teamed up with his wife and a barber to found Johnson products in 1954.

After one branch of finance company rejected his request for a business loan as a quote ridiculous idea That's what the bank told him when he came in to get a loan. He had a ridiculous idea. Mr. Johnson secured your guess how much money? $250 He secured the $250 in seed money from another branch. He said

by saying he needed the funds to take Joan on a vacation to California. So a bank wouldn't give him a loan to start a hair care product company, but they gave him a loan to take his wife on vacation. The early financing troubles later inspired him to help start a bank.

He found himself on the road again to pedal his product when his partnership with the barber soured from the station from his station wagon He saw ultra wave and other products to barbers from the upper Midwest to Harlem, but he soon found that barbers were not loyal They couldn't resist the next deal that came along although it involved poor quality cheaper stuff is what he told the New York Times back in 1976

So he started eyeing beauty shops where he observed women using hot combs and mineral oils to straighten hair, a smoky and unhealthy process. He modified ultra wave for the women's market, creating ultra sheen, which he said reduced smoke by as much as 75% and could be used in the home.

Sales took off. In the 1960s, the company had an estimated 80% of the black hair care market. And by 1970, it had an annual sales of $12.6 million. Today, that would be about $100 million.

The company listed on the American Stock Exchange in January of 1971. Johnson products been heavily on advertising in his heyday, 5 million in 1975, which is the equivalent of about 31 million today. And was the first black control company to sponsor a national television program, Soul Train, which aired weekly. How long was Soul Train on?

35 years so trade went off in 2006 Johnson products is not related to Johnson and Johnson published. I mean Johnson publishing company

of Chicago, which I have talked about before, or Robert Johnson, the co-founder of Black Entertainment Television, culturally regulatory challenges, and even severe weather, exacted the toll on Johnson products, which was struggling for survival by the late 1970s and posted its first loss in the mid 1980s. The company which relied on straighteners was late to adapt to the growing popularity of afro hairstyles in the 60s. Near the end of that decade, its reformulation of ultrashine as afroshine resulted in poor product.

for long curly hair, Mr. Johnson acknowledged. So it goes on, it's a lengthy piece in the New York times, but just think about that this brother, a product that we've all used, becomes a millionaire. How many black owned hair care companies are there today? And who are we as black folks making rich off our hair care products? I'll be right back.

All right, family, welcome back. So I said, I wanted to take a couple of minutes just to talk about a recent titzitay involving former president Barack Obama, in which there have been some folks that were unhappy with some words that he used in talking about the founding framers of the Constitution.

former President George Washington. And let me let me frame it out this way. So last week, what was that? No, it might have been yesterday. A court came in and made the decision that Donald Trump, who had put up these panels in Philadelphia near the.

site of George Washington's house in Philadelphia. And it was some revisionist history about George Washington, the nine enslaved people that lived in the house of George Washington. There's a story about one woman who escaped and George Washington went to his grave trying to recapture this black woman into slavery. That's how hell bent

He was on on black people being enslaved, the numbers, you know, enslaved people that he owned. You know, just the whole nine yards. And so Donald Trump took down panels that were put up in 2010 to talk about, you know, George Washington and this historic site and we placed it with stuff that was much more.

you know, friendly to the telling of history in the way white revisionists want history told around the issue of slavery. And so, you know, there were court cases. And finally, a three judge panel has ruled that Trump can put the panels back up that if this the law he want to tell, I guess he gets to tell it. And this is again, rooted out of this executive order where Trump talks about.

anything controlled by the federal government in relationship to historic sites, they cannot say anything that disparages Americans past or living. So you can't say that George Washington, you know, I guess calling him a slave owner was disparaging. So we can't tell the truth because, you know, it would impede how people see us.

It would from being these superior beings and So this three panel A set of judges in the third court, I mean, I'm sorry the third circuit of appeals they conferred and say yeah, he can put it back up so The controversy Barack Obama's interview interview with this journalist Michelle Norris and he talks about

how he sees the founding fathers or founding, you know, primaries of the Constitution, whatever. And he says that George Washington, and he acknowledged that he had more feelings, recognizing their profound deep flaws, but that doesn't just diminish the historical achievements. And he said that he was a great admirer of

of George Washington. I'm not going to play it just because of time. He was a great admirer. And so I was having this debate last night with some folks and because it was people that was hot. Like, how are you a great admirer of the slave holder? And.

And so I listened, you know, to to the arguments I listened online to what people were saying. I had, you know, personal conversations with folks around me and. Yeah. You know, because I had this moment where after Bill Cosby got accused of all of the stuff that he got accused of convicted of, you know, the whole nine yards, like, do you ever watch the Cosby show again?

Does it diminish the work that the Cosby show what would you say Clark? No, what? It doesn't diminish it and and and why do you say that?

You know, I can't get out, but what I'm trying to say is what he did in the past on his on his life, private life. So now nothing to do with the show. OK. So that was one of the, you know, as people try to relate this to modern day. And and I know that I have definitely tried to be someone that. I look at the totality of your life, not this this bad moment.

or this this set of circumstances. I try to look at the totality. In terms of George Washington and slavery and, you know, whether he was, you know, brilliant academically in helping to frame the Constitution. Yeah, I'm never going to be on record talking about I'm a great admirer and I'm never going to talk about slavery.

slavery as a flaw in his character. Flaw, for me, just is not a strong enough word to capture the depravity of slavery. The fact that this man would pull the teeth out of enslaved people to put in his own mouth for dentures. How disgusting are you that you take

The healthy teeth out of another individual to make false teeth for your raggedy mouth. So You hate black people, but you won't take teeth in your mouth like You just You can't you can't make it Make sense. I don't care. You know, you You want to sleep with these folks, but you hate them

You want your babies to be breastfed by black women, but you hate them. And so, you know, I had to tell somebody, I said, man, I love Barack Obama to death and back. But just like that moment with Angela, me and Barack will have to fight about this because, no, bro, I can't, I can't have never imagined

a Jewish person saying, I'm a great admirer of Hitler. Like, I just can't. And while, you know, we can talk about extremes, but the man to his dying days was trying to keep people enslaved. So, yeah, you know, you understood.

some big picture things. So can I say I respect the work or, you know, the contributions in this area were significant? I might say that, but no, I'm never going to be on record as saying I'm a great admirer of the slave holder. I just, I just can't do it. I can't make them two things line up and make those two things work. Let me go to the phone line. Hey, caller, what's happening? No, I can't. Oh, that's work.

I got it. Um, so, you know, I just wanted to flag that because a lot of people are upset. They've been going back and forth. And you know, it's some people like you, but not saying that about Barack Obama. I'm one of the people I am. I am one of those people do not say nothing about my man. But on this one, and that's what families do. Families disagree. I don't nobody's supposed to think like everybody else thinks all the time. I want to be clear about that.

So, you know what? Let me let me just say this. Let me just say this, too. Let me let me switch gears. Two things before I get out of here. First of all, for the young or for the black athletes that have used their platforms, five Milwaukee High School basketball players,

have been talking about the impact of gun violence on Milwaukee.

Jaylin Brown, Rashad Davis, Michael Rogers Jr., London Highlands, and Deuce McDuffie. Now, when I tell y'all the other name, Deuce McDuffie, when I tell you I love that name, they are the five faces of Playmakers for Peace, a new gun violence campaign launched in June by community activist Tiffany Yvonne. This sister is originally from Chicago. She's organized similar initiatives.

around violence prevention and for youth here in Milwaukee over the years. But I just like that they got these young athletes to be able to come together peer to peer to have these conversations about gun violence in our community. So I didn't want to miss the opportunity to shot them out.

And I'll see if I can get her on to talk. Would you say yes? OK, to talk more about the initiative. It's impressive. And then there is a story in the journal Sentinel I Knew Nothing About. But there is a landmark that has gone up since we're talking about black history right now.

The forgotten history of Wisconsin's first licensed black owned and operated hospital is getting some long overdue recognition. So did y'all know that we had a black owned and operated hospital in Wisconsin? The Midtown Neighborhood Alliance erected a state historical marker in Linden Park for the former site of Miss Accordia.

Missouri Accordia Community Hospital, founded by three black physicians as Wisconsin's first licensed non-profit hospital. In 1969, doctors John Terry, Lewis Maxie, and John Bryant, hey, my name's like, started a 260 bed nursing home that would later become Missouri Accordia, and I know I'm saying that wrong, Community Hospital. But the hospital housed in the former facility

operated by the Sisters of Miss Accordia, did more than provide medical care for Central City's residents. It opened doors to black doctors and nurses who weren't allowed to practice medicine in white hospitals. This is in 1969.

It also provided dignified healthcare to the city's indigent population who faced medical redlining after the county run hospital closed. These doctors knew the importance of having medical care in the community, especially for blacks who were getting poor treatment in segregated hospitals. And so just understand that there is now this marker.

in Linden Hill, a site of African American resilience is what the Placker says. I wish I had known about it. I certainly wouldn't try to be there. I'm definitely gonna make it my point to go and visit this marker. See if I can take a picture with it, but there are tons of facts. It's in the Journal Sentinel story. I mean, the Journal Sentinel today, it's a long article, so I can't read it all before I got to get out of here.

There are folks that are mentioned who talked about this is where they had their first job graduating in 72 and being able to work, you know, in a black owned and operated hospital and what that was like. They have people that were actually employed there that were a part of this. So it just.

The history we don't know I hear about all of you know, like the building we're in is historic but Just so you know that There is this new piece of history that many of us are not familiar with but three these three black doctors all members of the cream City Medical Society We're at the forefront of creating this and I had never heard of Dr. Maxi dr. Terry or dr. Bryant

I had never heard of I had never heard of and so then now I got all of the questions How do you buy this big building in 69 thinking about what we just heard about? Mr. Johnson who tries to start the haircare product company and you can't get a 250 dollar loan to start your business because they tell you it's stupid but this

It's so cool to know that Wisconsin was a part of this movement around the country that black people started their own hospitals Started their own training, you know places for black doctors and nurses and Wisconsin was was in the mix No idea and just real quick Dr. Maxi went to Switzerland work for a period of time

and then at Chicago's private hospital, Dr. Bryant, he attended Howard University. Dr. Terry went to Meharry Medical College in Nashville with fellow student, Dr. Finlayson. So just think about that. That is so crazy. It is so crazy that and HBC Hughes and they having the roll call tomorrow night. I'm gonna remind people down at the Performing Arts Center outside, but

HBC use and when folks think I got to move to a different neighborhood to get a better, you know, this or that, I got to send my child to a PWI predominantly white serving institution because those schools are better than historically black colleges and universities. But again, and I say this all the time as I end my show, many of the black people who have done well.

Your early educational foundation whether it was yours or your parents come out of historically black colleges and those educations were good enough to start black owned Banks and black owned Hospitals and black owned you know healthcare clinics, but they're not good enough to send your child to when you start making money Just let that sit just let that sit there Just let that sit there

We turned away from our own institutions that helped put us in position to be able to pay for our child to go to a PWI. The schools that helped create the income, buy the house, build a home, to do all of the foundational stuff, but now those schools are not good enough for your children because we've been told they're second tier.

All right, that's the show Buzz I appreciate y'all family. I'll talk to y'all tomorrow. Peace

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