9-16-25 Joe Clarke & Tom Garland Segment 2

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On this top five Tuesday friend of the show, Tom Garland, good morning to you.

Good morning, what up, Brian?

And someone that you haven't seen in quite a bit, filmmaker, director, Joe Clark, welcome aboard.

Hello, thank you for having me.

So you guys worked together, Tom, filling the gaps on this one a little bit.

Yeah, I

would say that I was probably, I think we met, we were both living in Iowa City.

I think it was maybe even during college.

And I was like, I've always wanted to be in a dog movie.

dog

movie

about Christmas dogs and wish fulfilled yes and

so then you get involved in this and this is your dog Christmas movie Joe

Yes, this one is every every movie now is a dog Christmas movie.

So that's that's the goal I'm

being weird.

So Joe anyways, I did stand up comedy for years like 15 years and through that I ended up touring with very different celebrities at different points Joe highly respected filmmaker really like

you know, just stuff is incredible.

And so we knew each other from Iowa City.

So I'm doing these tours with WWE Hall of Famer Rob Van Damme.

And then I finally had somewhat talked Rob into bringing a camera on tour with us.

And my thought process was this will be a good way for us to plug tickets and sell more tickets.

And so we'll bring Joe with us and, you know, have Joe come along.

And instead, Joe turns around and makes

his own.

Yeah, you brought a

sociopath on board.

That was a

wrong decision for that one.

You made a movie about it, man.

It's called

Headstrong.

It's great.

And now he's making, obviously, more

movies.

And so Headstrong, let's go with that real quick.

So this was more about Rob's stand-up at that point.

But then that kind of turns a little bit.

And the whole concept of film actually comes out to be something a lot bigger than maybe you would imagine, right?

Yeah.

Well, I remember at the yacht club, you were showing me texts from Rob saying like, Oh yeah, we're going to do a stand up.

I'm going to try and put this together.

Rob and I had like a two hour phone call that originated.

He basically hired me to come on board.

And I remember the night we picked him up, like, you know, I don't really know him.

It was a good amount of money to us being hired for.

And he gets in the car and he's like, Oh, I was going to cancel this because I just got a concussion last night.

And I was like,

worried about his health, but also like, oh man, what am I gonna do?

This is not good.

And then things kind of went from there, but that stood out because he had those concussions symptoms lasting into the tour.

So it was like, I think this is the movie, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Were you a pro wrestling fan going into this, Joe?

Yeah, I've been a wrestling fan since I was probably three years old.

So way too long of a time to be a wrestling fan.

And that was my motivation with Headstrong.

And I was very influenced by, you know, Be On The Mat and Restin' With Shadows and these like old school documentaries that...

You know I had a big influence on me and so but yeah, I've been a wrestling fan forever

So these movies if you guys don't know beyond the mat was really focused on you know two or three different characters and different stages of their their upbringing in the wrestling business one is You know guys trying to get into like WWE and then you're seeing one and Terry Funk who's going to retire at that moment

the wrestling with shadows that you just mentioned all kind of circled around Brett Hart and his change from WWF to WCW and everything that went on with the Montreal deal.

The fact that you're now working to put out this Sabu documentary, Joe, this is telling a whole different story.

And again, what you originally imagined and now that Sabu is no longer with us, the whole thing turns on its head and now you got a different kind of movie here, right?

By the way,

that was incredible summation of beyond the mad wrestler show.

That's that's awesome to hear that and Yeah, and you know, I think that um those movies I loved wrestling so much but a lot of your teen years being a wrestling fans like not cool because of the stigma that wrestling is fake, right?

Yep.

And so but those movies and also wrestling I knew

I believe in it.

I mean, I like challenging the perception that it's more real than we think.

And I knew Sabu would be the perfect person to do that.

And so he had the story hook of he won one last match.

And so Rob and I were like, that's a perfect journey to capture.

And then Sabu's also probably the most real when it comes to wrestling, pushing and committing.

So I kind of always knew it was going to be

pretty nuts from the Keco, you know, and not as far as it went, obviously, you know.

So the whole thing was a surreal experience.

More with Joe Clark, filmmaker and director.

He's in town.

You said that you and I was sitting here for a little while

then.

Yeah, I'm actually doing some documentary work with the university.

So it's been fun to reconnect here with.

It's been a long time.

So this is cool to be here.

Awesome.

Well, we'll have more about the Sabu documentary coming up.

And Tom Garland has his top five.

What do we have lined up for today, Tom?

We'll keep it about wrestling.

OK.

More after the news next.

You know what for Malta Bridge called silent divide rock 108 morning show Brian Marshall with Tom Garland and filmmaker Joe Clark I got a text message here just a little bit ago Danielle and Marion said holy s these guys are funny That's right after the top five.

I didn't know if you were coming in with the comedy chops here this morning Joe

But here we go.

This is this is Tom.

I'm just I'm leaning.

I'm leaning heavily.

You've done stand-up.

Yeah, we did some stuff together But like

Tom is like a he's a true true professional like The amount of hours how many hours do you think you've actually been on stage?

Oh, you know about as many hours as you had to edit headstrong

Four trillion

So tell me about the Sabu documentary now you are

focusing on one individual and his last match.

And Sabu was known in the professional wrestling community more as an individual who, like if that guy was kind of a fake, I'll put that in quotations, Sabu was a real deal.

Cause you looked at him and you're like, well, that's a dangerous fella.

He didn't talk much, at least outward.

And now you're doing a film about him.

Tell me a little bit about getting that one together and ultimately this movie turning out the way that it did.

I mean, it's a, it's a miracle the film was finished because of all the circumstances around it.

And yeah, you're right.

Like Sabu was a very private individual.

Um, that was, that was his gimmick throughout wrestling was he never talked.

Um, um, and so the concept of doing a documentary, just the logistics was like, I don't know how we're going to make this work, you know, but, uh, Rob and I, we met with them and it helps obviously that him and Rob

grew up together in the business.

Rob

Van

Dam trained together.

And so there was that trust.

And then Sabu and I, we kind of just connected where and I told him, like, I think your story is important because you are so real and you're the perfect person to showcase wrestling in a different way that people are used to, you know,

do you think if Sabu would have known, which he couldn't have?

that he had limited time left on this planet.

Do you think that maybe some of his communication with you during the filming of the documentary

would have been different?

Well, I mean, Tom, I'm sure you can speak to this from watching last night, but there's actually quite a few quotes throughout the movie that I didn't even notice while editing that are pretty prophetic of him actually knowing that he was going to pass away.

And I remember editing it.

And then, you know, after he did pass away,

rewatching the footage and being like, wow, it was there the whole time.

I didn't even notice, you know, because I didn't know.

I was like, that's Sabu being Sabu.

That's that's his authenticity.

Very true person.

And so I think he did know that this last match was going to be, you know, in congruence with the rest of his life.

Was there a certain responsibility after he passes away for you in the editing process to not only honor the legacy, but still tell the story you wanted to tell?

Yeah, that's a great question and absolutely and I think we did a really good job of being truthful and Authentic to who he was, you know, I think it helps that we didn't hold back because some people think this is a fluff piece because Rob Van Dam is a producer, you know That's like if you watch, you know, the last dance Michael Jordan produced it.

So it's gonna be polished and clean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so Rob was

Wanted the truth and the truth is messy with Sabu is anyone.

That's that chaotic in the ring They're outside life.

It's probably gonna be rather chaotic as well.

That's an interesting story And I'm sure there's a lot of different stories that you haven't been able to tell yet But the new movie Sabu the documentary is available now.

Tell us where we can find it

Yeah, so you

can stream it on Kinema.

It's just cool new like new age theatrical platform where you just go online go on the website and you can just stream the film and Tom you were saying that it actually works really

well.

Yeah,

I did it last night and it was just so easy like you know, you can rent it you can set up a watch party it was on like super high end 4k the audio sounds great and I got to tell you Joe from the second I started while I mean I'm talking I had to look at the

Timer on the video because I was like how far I think I was like a minute ten into this and you can tell right away It's not like any fluff piece documentary.

It's not like something that you're gonna see like, you know Nothing corny.

That's like you're like wow.

They're really trying to sell some t-shirts here or something Yeah, it was just so real and shot the cinematography is awesome dude.

You did a great job.

I appreciate that.

Thank you

That's kinema.com.

K-I-N-E-M-A kinema.com.

And you should see it right there on the front page, the Sabu documentary.

And we've got the trailer already linked up through the Rock 108 Facebook page.

So that's, that's awesome.

And a local filmmaker who's not gone out there and had how many, now how many movies have you made?

It doesn't

matter when you're still living with your mom Sounds like

radio Joe Clark, thank you so much for being in here today and talking about the new movie Tom Garland as always tell me one more time about the show coming up

Yeah, September 27th.

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We are talking pro wrestling this morning with friend of the show Tom Garland who is here.

Good morning to you, sir.

Yes, sir.

Hello and filmmaker of the new Sabu documentary Joe Clark Welcome aboard

So the thing was, is at one point I thought there was like a local wrestling federation, and I thought, alright, this is my chance, I'm gonna take a few bumps in the ring.

Right?

So I tried to do that.

Probably gave myself a concussion at that point, and then realized, no, no, no, I'm better as a mouthpiece.

Uh, have either of the two of you being adjacent to professional wrestlers, like Sabu, like, uh, Rob Van Dampe, have either of you, like, fell down the ring at all?

Either of you?

So I, I guess I could take that for, I...

In the saboo documentary you guys spent a lot of time at the nerd bar in Las Vegas I used to bartend there to stand up there that was

one of my hustles while I was in Vegas.

And they had wrestling at the, you know, and first of all, like a lot of the sidebar story here, a lot of the girls that work there like didn't speak the best English for some reason.

And so

they, you know, it was

like a indie wrestling promotion.

And they put a sign up that said WWE tonight.

And Rob came down to hang out and he was like, I don't think that's legal.

But I hosted it.

as a, you know, as like an announcer or something.

And I thought like, oh, this would be so much fun.

I get to be in the ring.

And then I got in the ring and the guys get in and I was scared.

They're gonna hit me.

I was like, I don't want to do this.

You know, I did like an announce before like a WWE event and had to ask how to get into the ring the right way.

So it wouldn't fall on my face, but I didn't realize how there's a lot of spring in some of those rings, especially the WWE ones.

I know that there are others.

that are done on, you know, in a different place where you're falling down.

And that's got to really jar you up a little bit.

So, I mean, I don't know.

Yeah, definitely.

I mean, I mean, like, did you guys, when you're doing the set, how much was Future Stars a wrestling involved in Las

Vegas?

Well first of all, I never taken a bonfire.

I feel like I'm in pain all the time anyway.

And if I stubbed my toe, I'd have to go to the hospital.

Oh boy.

But is that the- That's

Joe DeFalco's like-

Oh, no way.

So this is really crazy.

Joe DeFalco was, he was the second camera at the last match.

And I just put a Craigslist out, which I always do.

I love Craigslist for just connecting with film people.

And we responded, we went back and forth quite a bit, had never met him, and then he just showed up that night and he...

Completely changed the complexion of the movie like the crazy bumps at Sabu takes at the end.

That's Joe's camera So like I remember seeing footage of the the big bump that Sabu takes After the match, I didn't even see it happen in real life and when he showed me it I dropped to my knee.

I was like

That's the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life and so like Joe completely changed the complexion of this film But it sounds like he's doing his own thing with just video stuff and his dad runs that promotion Yeah, and so his

dad that I I guess maybe that I but anyway, yeah, his dad runs the promotion and then it's

You know, it's an indie promotion, but I went in there a couple of times with Rob and like one time the rope broke.

It's like a rope, but it's not.

It's like a wire cable.

Yeah.

And this thing was like, and I was like, oh man, I'm not getting in there.

So yeah.

If you're got a promoter, you got to put on matches.

So I'm assuming your top five has something to do with matches here today.

Yeah.

Well, you know, I.

been in the promoting of the entertainment world and not only as a stand up in different aspects for years.

And so everybody has like their dream card, right?

Their

dream wrestling card.

This is mine, okay?

That's the top five today.

These are the top five pro wrestling matches that I'd like to see.

Number five, I'd like to see everyone on social media versus trying to make stuff on the news about themselves.

It's like one of those tag teams where more wrestlers just keep coming out.

Oh my god.

Look who it is now.

It's your cousin.

They're pro-matter folks.

Here comes your drunk uncle, your co-workers, and your ex.

It's total trauma posting pandemonium, brother.

What

you gonna

do when your family runs wild on you?

Every post that's like, oh, here's my take on this.

It's like, don't stop.

Why?

That's just number five, folks.

I'm not making a joke about my mom being the main event of that show, but she will be.

I hope she's not listening to

this.

Number four.

These are top five pro wrestling matches I'd like to see.

Number four, Howard Stern and Stephen Colbert versus trying to stay relevant.

Oh boy.

Too standard.

Too standard.

It's too many kick outs at this point.

One, two, and you're like, ah, really?

Just put him down.

Number three, Bill Belichick versus self-respect.

No!

I'm just, he won't give up the belt, you know?

Especially when a 24 year old Instagram model has it around his neck.

Yeah, there

you go.

That's a hell of a match right there.

She's like, give me Tom Brady's number.

He's like, go, please.

I'll give you anything.

You can come to the games.

You can be on the field.

I love this.

We have our next documentary.

Yes.

All right.

This is great.

Tom, can you call

a girlfriend?

The Jordan Hudson documentary.

Is that her name?

I don't know her

name.

Yeah, me neither.

Why do you know

her full name?

I haven't Googled her.

It's for research.

Research top five pro wrestling matches.

I'd like to see number two the Iowa Hawkeyes versus any real team Just a real football team It's the moment you've all been waiting for it's Albany.

Yeah

You must

be my sweat

Albany was a good game

Yeah, that was a fun good game to watch.

It was a good game.

It was close.

I think we're gonna

play Kirkwood next Play Kirkwood, and then there's some homeschool kids that we'll play after that.

Nyak is ready to go.

Yeah Game day is gonna be here for the night.

That's right Pat McAfee is he's tweeting about right now.

That's right.

Oh gosh.

I love it

And the number one, these are the top five pro wrestling matches I'd like to see.

The number one match, number one is America versus 2026.

I don't know if we're

gonna make it.

The show's getting canceled.

Yeah, we're not gonna make it to that.

Just right now.

Tom Garland not only does

his stand-up, but he has a show that's upcoming too.

Yeah, definitely.

Come see my stand-up, P1 Nation.

I am leaving your radio box and going to rip the roof off of CSPS Hall that's in the Newbo district.

CSPS Hall on September 27th in the Newbo district.

You wanna get tickets, you can go to my website.

It's Tom Garland's stand-up.

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