Senator Patrick Testin – February 2025

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Senator Patrick Testin – February 2025

Rapids Report · Fri Feb 21, 2025

Welcome, everybody, to Midday Magazine for this Friday, February 21st, 2025.

Have your host, James Jamail, off here.

At 4.30 today, we're going to talk to Mitch Wayne about Tri-City Curling Club.

Get to know a little bit more about what they're doing over there and what they have upcoming.

Right now, joining us monthly on the phone line right now, Wisconsin State Senator Patrick

Teston, good afternoon, sir.

How are you doing?

I'm doing great, James, yourself.

Doing good.

I was looking forward to this conversation all week.

One of the things that I was looking forward to talk with you about is your listening sessions.

You've been doing a bit of these, a little bit more getting out there and shaking some

hands and hearing some questions from people.

How has that been going?

It's been going great.

In fact, earlier today, or some crew and I hosted a Wilson Session at McMillan Library

at noon and now it's the opportunity for individuals to come out and give us your input

as we gear up for the state budget that the governor introduced on Tuesday.

And then also, as a member of the Joint Finance Committee, although it hasn't been made official

yet and hasn't been hammered, all the details haven't been hammered out yet, I'm really

hoping that I can get the Joint Finance Committee to come to the 24th Senate district, either

Steven's point or Wisconsin Rapids to allow individuals to come out and tell us what they'd

like to see in the budget, what they don't like, make changes, edits, and it's just now

is the time for folks to give us input on legislation, the budget and everything else and everything

in between.

We're going to get into the budget in a moment, but regarding the listening sessions and

the importance of this, I, you know, long-time listeners will know you and I, we will have

fun, we'll laugh, we also butt heads sometimes, but we have open and dialect and open conversations

with each other and open respect and I want to just, I don't think we do this nearly

enough with our representatives, with our politicians, I respect this so much and I appreciate

this so much.

I appreciate you, Representative Krug and other individuals doing things like this in

our communities, not just here in Wisconsin, but around the country.

We need more of this, I admire it and I appreciate it, sir.

Thank you for doing these things.

I know it's part of your job and you're just, you're probably just saying, why is he thinking

me?

It's part of my job.

Enough of this anymore and I value this in our society.

Well, and I do too and, you know, obviously not everyone's always going to agree and sometimes

people will be very passionate about issues and sometimes emotions get a little robbed,

but I think it's critically important because one, it gives us a good feel and tenor for

where the general public is at and also, I mean, it's an opportunity for us to think

in ways that maybe we wouldn't necessarily do ourselves.

So getting perspectives from other individuals, I think, is critically important because

you know, that's often a very powerful tool when we start having conversations with our

colleagues because the truth of the matter is oftentimes, and I've done it myself where

when we have discussions down in Madison on key policy proposals and the hot button topics

of the day, it's very, very easy for us to fall into this trap where all we think about

is what occurs under that dome or that bubble in Madison and we oftentimes can lose sight

of the bigger picture of how, you know, what we're discussing down in Madison impacts

people back home, both directly and indirectly.

And now let's fight.

No, I'm joking.

The governor, the other day, addressed the budget and you've touched on this a little

bit already.

So can you give your reaction to that and let's talk about the work that's going to be

done to put this together?

Yeah.

So Tuesday night, the governor gave his budget address and, you know, we're still paging

through it.

This was actually sort of a unique circumstance because typically we normally get the budget

in brief, usually a day or two in advance of the budget address, just so we can start

kind of perusing the highlights.

We actually didn't receive the budget in brief until the day after the governor gave

his speech.

So for many of us, the reactions that we gave were based on, you know, his speech and for

my standpoint, I'm a tad bit concerned because the governor laid out roughly a 20% increase

in government spending wants to increase the government workforce by 1300 workers, which

is an astronomical amount, wants to increase taxes.

And so my initial thoughts and concerns are a lot of this is going to be likely dead

on arrival.

So what the Joint Finance Committee is going to do is similar to what we've done both

under Governor Evers as well as Governor Walker is that we are going to strip out all of

the policy provisions within the budget.

We are going to start from the base budget, which is operating under the current state

biennial budget right now, and then we're going to build upon that.

Because this is the one number I really want to stress home because a lot of attention

and conversation has circled around our roughly $4.3 billion surplus.

Now roughly 1.85 billion of that surplus is new money, money that we think we can reinvest

without creating a fiscal cliff.

And the rest of that is one time money from things that we tried to get done in the last

biennium as well as collections of sales revenue and things that have been on the up primarily

because of inflation.

And so when we talk about the state budget at large and the state surplus, just know

that roughly half of that $4 billion is only new revenue that can safely be reinvested.

And this is one of those ones too that we, I think that everybody needs some time with

to assess.

And given that I think most of us understand the game by now, it's, you know, bartering,

it's kind of, hey, how about this much for it?

No?

How about this much for it?

You guys are going to go back and forth on this one until we kind of get a set decision

on it.

We'll see how that one develops.

I'm sure we'll be talking about it probably next month as well.

But I would like to take some time to talk about Senate Bill 23 with you.

This is one that has already happened.

And this is one that is a, I think going to take a big effect on a lot of people.

Is that regarding the school test scores?

Nope.

I apologize.

That is the act to amend 4946.

It's basically related to extension of eligibility under the medical assistance program

for a postpartum women.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

This was a bill that we heard in the Senate committee about a week ago now.

And this is legislation that has essentially passed the state Senate last session unanimously.

It has a major obstacle in state assembly and that's primarily with the speaker who

has some concerns there.

But we think it's vitally important.

48 other states have extended postpartum coverage to 12 months.

And so the testimony that we heard from individuals and a lot of it was from moms themselves

who came down and talked about some of the challenges and the struggles that they faced

after they gave birth to their kids.

And so from our standpoint, it's the right thing to do.

And I'm hoping at some point we can convince folks in the assembly to get this done.

And so by and large, I think we're interacting once again here in the state Senate to pass

it with broad bipartisan support.

My guess is it's likely going to be a unanimous vote in our house, but we still have some

work to do with a key individual over in the assembly.

And I'm hoping that we can make a strong case.

And this is one that can get signed into law because the only other state in a country

that doesn't extend postpartum coverage to 12 months is Arkansas.

It was kind of a comical in the Senate committee hearing and health committee.

We seem like we're picking a lot on Arkansas, which isn't necessarily the case, but I hope

we can get it done.

Well, you know, Brett Bealum, I go in there and everything, I mean, that kind of started

the truck.

No.

Yeah.

No kidding.

Well, I joke a little bit about this one, this subject in particular, not because there's

anything to joke about, but in part that it's hard to imagine anybody pushing against

this.

This feels like one of the more, and I don't want to say any bill is easy to get forward.

And certainly you're touching on some of that, but this does seem like one of those

ones that takes care of something that catches us up with the rest of the union.

And to that point, I, you know, with the lack of economy and the way that we have been

affected the last couple of winters, especially our friends up north, I'm curious about these

things that it does feel like we are lagging a little bit behind on when we look at neighboring

states or we just look at the union in general.

There's a couple of topics that are like that.

I imagine that you and your colleagues are noticing this as well and trying to address

this to some degree.

Yeah.

I mean, this is, you know, going back to the postpartum discussion that, you know, the primary

role block that we've hit and run into and the speaker has raised concerns and, you know,

he is very much concerned that this is an expansion of the welfare program, which I suppose

there is maybe a potential aspect or lens that you can see that through, but when you've

got everyone coming to the table, private insurance companies, organizations that historically

have been diametrically opposed to one another from both the left and the right who are saying

that this is right for the do.

You know, my hope is that we can continue to make in month that case, but as you alluded

to, there are other issues out there that, you know, we have been slow to change.

And, you know, one being things like medical marijuana, which I am currently in the process

of drafting the bill.

It's not going to be likely as expansive as I would have liked or the bill that I had

offered back in 2019, but we're having conversations with stakeholders and seeing what is

palatable that we think we can get done, because again, as you referenced, we are an outlier

on this front.

And so, I'm hoping we can, we're going to craft a bill that will create a framework for

a medical cannabis program here in the state.

We're speaking with Senator Petra Teston right now, and sir, this, I think, that's last

conversation ties into this next one I feel, and I wanted to direct people to a great

article by Terry Barrett, civicmedia.us about why farmers are facing an uncertainty with

contracts being suspended.

Dairy farmers across the state are struggling with questions after a government and some

others have impacted environmental agreements, other Wisconsin farmers are facing significant

uncertainty with some of the more recent suspensions that have happened.

One farmer quote has already estimated that $30,000 loss following the governor's decision

but the breaks on specific contracts meant to support environmental sustainable farming

practices.

There's a lot of, there's a lot of layers to this one, and we only have so much time.

So I don't mean to take too much time on this one, but given what we're just talking about,

and we all understand how difficult it is for farmers in our ag industry and how vital

the ag industry is in this state in particular, more than most, this has got to be something

that you again, you and your colleagues are aware of, and I'm curious how much conversation

you do, how much you do representing of this?

Yeah, I mean, that's a great segue, in fact, I just have the Department of Agriculture

Trading and Consumer Protection Secretary in my office to discuss some of the channels

that are being faced by our farmers, and it's no question that our farmers, they take

lumps every single year, and some of them are deep bruises, and some of them are not so

bad, but it's always a challenge, right?

And so one of the things that we continue to have conversations about, and I give Secretary

Romance, who's actually a Wisconsin rapid native, a lot of credit because he has come to

the table with innovative ideas, and he's done a great job in working with our eight community

and as well as the legislature to support programs and initiatives that help increase exports.

In fact, my conversation with folks over at the Farm Bureau and the Wisconsin-Berry Business

Association, we actually saw an increase in our exports for dairy products here in the

state, which was sort of an outlier compared to some of our other states that we can keep

within the dairy industry, but even though it was a decent year, there still are challenges.

I mean, I think as we take a look at the demographics of our farmers, the average age of our dairy

farmer here in the state is now approaching over 60 years old, and trying to find that

next generation to take up that mantle.

I certainly don't want to ever find ourselves in a position where we were kids in the classroom

open up textbooks, and they see, well, Wisconsin used to be the dairy land of the United States,

and I just want to make sure that we are doing everything that we can to position all

of our farmers, not just dairy, but our potato and vegetable growers, our cranberry growers,

and everything in between, that we are continuing to do what we can to support our egg economy,

which is one of the cornerstones of our state's economy.

You mentioned meeting recently with local members of the Wisconsin Future Farmers of America.

Is this a big part of the discussion of what we're talking about right here?

It certainly was, it was actually fun because prior to meeting with the FFACE students,

I did, I sat down for an interview with an egg publication, and one of the questions

that they asked me was, well, what do you try and teach the kids that come down?

I started a little after, and I said, I think they normally teach me something new that

I didn't know every time these students come down, because they really are just, they

are virgin and leaders within their peers, and I learned something from one of the students

who grows a specialty crop by sunflowers, and her and her dad pressed little sunflowers

into oil and other types of products, and they're great out of the Amherst area, and so

it was, it's always fun, and they had great questions, but more importantly, the interaction

that they had, and the questions that they asked were really impressive, and so as long

as we have students like that who are actively engaged, and have an interest in agriculture,

I know the future is bright for the state.

The other morning you had a positive meeting with several students from Midstate Technical

College talking about the future of our state, how did that go?

It went great as well, I mean, I think any time we can have students come down with their

middle school, high school and college, and engage in the legislative process, I think

that's awesome.

So we had a good conversation as far as what the technical colleges are looking for in

the state budget, whether it's educational resources, open educational resources, which

are a great tool that we funded in the last budget, and we want to keep going because

this helps lower the cost for students as it relates to some of their textbooks and

other sort of training materials that are shared throughout the entire tech colleges,

and what makes ask like that so easy is when you have great institutions like Midstate

Technical College, I mean, I am truly, truly blessed to have such a great institution in

our backyard, and with the work that President Monday has been doing with her leadership

team, it makes it a really easy sell when we get into those negotiating rooms with our

college and the finance committee to make the case as to why we need to continue these

investments because ultimately the way I view it, our technical colleges, they are ones

closest to what they're ear to the ground, talking to our employers, making adjustments

as far as the programs that they offer, and they are kicking out some of the best talent

that we have with great education through the doors in two years or less, with less debt

where the demand is through the roof where recent graduates can start off making 80 to

100 grand a year, so from my standpoint, the tech colleges give us some of the best

pain for our buck, and certainly the students that came down to advocate for what the tech

colleges are looking for in this next day budget, where a prime example of that.

And we'll wrap up with you on the job series in a moment, but I did want to take a second

to highlight Pamela Severson.

You recently had her down and she had a legislative citation in the U.S. flag that was flown

over the state capital for this.

Well, after I got to go up and visit Pam, so Pam Severson just retired from Fort

McCoy and talked about a tremendous career public service nearly 30 years, and she essentially

ran all of the logistics, the planes, trains, trucks, helicopters at Fort McCoy, and so

she was responsible for all the logistics, for all the different divisions and regiments

that come in from around the states that Fort McCoy services, and what was so great

talking to not just Pam and her family, but many of her co-workers who've known her

for years, just talked about just what an incredible person that she was was always

happy and positive and was really about building the team, and more importantly, making sure

that everyone understood their mission at Fort McCoy, which was a service in our men and

women, making sure that they had the resources that they need.

So as they trained and got ready for their deployments, whether in different parts of the

country or around the globe, and even in conflict areas, that they would be able to do so safely

in a timely manner, and so it was a great celebration, and a lot of tears were had by

Pam and her family, from some of the stories that were shared and retold, but truly a great

opportunity to highlight someone who has basically given her life to public service and

serving her country, and wish her and her husband the best.

I think she had mentioned that in retirement, her hope is to refurbish an old school bus,

that her and her husband can travel the country. So I wish her the best luck and God bless

her for her service. Yeah, I thought it was definitely worth noting, and thank you for sharing

that, sir. And wrapping up, you had your recent on the job series, you were in Toma.

I was, this was a fun one, so I spent the day at Strike Zone, which is in downtown

Toma in Superior Avenue, can't miss it, it takes up a whole city block, and I got to work

alongside Ty, who was the GM and part owner, and it's a, a facility as far as he knows has

been around since like 1912 or 1914, they've got 12 lanes, and let me tell you something about Ty.

He is a much better bowler than I am back that when we sat down. I asked him, so how's your

bowling game? And he said, well, I average about 225 to which I think my draw at the floor,

because if I can break 100 on a good day, that's a banner day for me.

But you and me both. Yeah, it was, it was really neat. I got to help oil the lanes, which

has a really advanced robot that does that, and which I've been knowing for the bulk,

got to go behind the scenes and see how the pin, the pin setters operate and do some repairs there,

and and what's always fun for me, you know, one of my first jobs back in high school, I worked

at a family restaurant in Monomony, Michigan, and you know, start off as a busboy, work my way as a

prep cook and then eventually a line cook. So it's always fun when I can get back into a kitchen

and work the line and and help cook orders and and wait and serve tables. And then probably the

most interesting thing at the end of the day, I actually got to do, I got to drill some holes

in a in a bowling ball, which, you know, I think in how technical can this be, right? It's three

holes. You got two fingers of thumb. There, there was an absolute science behind this, which,

it was really impressive because it was neat. Yeah, yeah, ton of fun, but again, this is why we have

done this program now for going on eight years. It's just such such an incredible value to me to go

out and not just highlight some of our great employers throughout the district, but I always come

back learning something new and and just gives me such such a better perspective. So as I always do,

it's a shameless plug. If you're an employer here in the 24th Senate district and you want me to

come out and work for a day, just reach out to my office and as I always joke, the best part is

at the end of the day, you get to fire me. So we need to work and give me a pink flip at the end

of the day. I always appreciate the time, sir. And you know, just to touch on, we started full

circular. We started talking about listening sessions and very similar with the on the jobs here

as you being able to talk to constituents, talk to people right on the ground level. I appreciate

that. If people have fault questions, they'd like to know more reach out to you. How can they do that?

Yeah, if anyone needs to get in touch with my legislative office, reach out. Our phone number is

608-266-3123. You can shoot us an email at sen.my last name testin at legis.wi.gov. You can

follow us on social media, Facebook, X, Instagram, the whole works. And of course, if you ever want to

meet in person, just reach out, give us a call. I'm more than happy to do that. And now is really a

critical point to be in contact with your elected officials, Donald Madison. As we have just now, we

are out of the starting gate for the state budget. So myself and others are going to be going around

a respective district to receive feedback and input from our constituents. And so I would just

encourage people to be engaged and you know, share your thoughts, your ideas. And even if we don't

necessarily always agree, that's okay. That's how this process works. And it's just such a huge

advantage when we receive as much public input as possible. So stay tuned and it's going to be a

busy next couple of months. Appreciate the time as always, sir. Safe travels out there. We'll talk

next month. Look forward to it. More coming up here at WFHR.

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