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I have a couple of places for us to go today.
I would like to get into a little bit of the All-Star break and talking about the All-Stars.
Got a couple of brewers in there, a couple of fun names, I think.
That'll be fun.
I want to get into a talk a little Raptors as well.
Also wanted to get into something we are talking about the other day.
These new Olympic sports.
I want to get everybody ready for these.
I've got five new Olympic sports involved.
Very cool.
I also wanted to talk about before we get too far away from the Stanley Cup.
These crazy things, the Stanley Cup has been through.
We've got to find a reason to revisit, yeah.
I got a stat of the day that's a fun one, too.
We'll talk maybe some brewers as well, everybody, but I'm calling an audible.
Calling an audible to start the show.
That's good.
There was an article at NFL.com that got Seth and I talking.
Cam Newton came out and said that he believes Lamar Jackson is the greatest dual threat in NFL history.
I keep almost saying dual threat quarterback, but Cam said dual threat period.
Got Seth and I talking a little bit about this.
I throughout the name Steve Young, because I think we forget that Steve Young was considered
a running quarterback back then.
He was, yeah.
And one of the greater minds is to have her play cubie.
I obviously, there's a couple of other guys, too.
I think we mentioned, and I want to hear from the audience on this one, too, because I think
it's a fun topic.
I don't think there's a wrong answer.
Not really.
I mean, I guess you could say some certain quarterbacks might have been the wrong answer.
But I honestly think you can make an argument for a lot of guys.
There's also running backs, like Roger Craig, Marshall Falk, Ladinian Tomlinson, meeting
they they were they could rush, but they could also catch passes, too.
That's what that's what that means.
So yeah.
Now there's a lot of mean on the bone there, but I'm going to start so we're completely
different, because Seth said something right before we went to like right minutes before
we went on the minute before we went on the air here about Randall Cunningham.
And if you've heard me on the air, that is my favorite quarterback of all time.
I loved watching Randall play.
I just enjoyed his style, his approach to the game, along with at the time, again, not
a lot of running quarterbacks.
And Randall was quite the running quarterback and Seth said, man, because you imagine Randall
in today's day and age.
And I didn't want to say this because we only had a couple of seconds before we went on.
But I've actually had this in a dream.
Oh, really?
I this was ages ago.
Oh, wow.
This is a long time ago.
Look, even I think it was it might have even been around the time Lamar Jackson was in
college.
That's how long ago it was.
But I did have this thought in this dream because I think a lot of us could see the NFL
going this way, where the quarterback isn't just the conductor out there anymore.
He's also the train.
Like he has to run things and you need quarterbacks.
The everybody on the field is getting smarter, bigger, and faster.
Right.
So it only makes sense that the idea of your quarterback, just being able to drop back,
wait two seconds and chuck it.
That's gone.
Right on.
There is no such thing anymore as a non-mobile quarterback, right?
Even your traditional pocket quarterbacks like a Joe Burr or somebody can book, then can
move.
Yeah.
Especially.
They just don't like to do that.
They're always looking to pass first instead of run, right?
You're not going to see many quarterbacks drafted or make it into the NFL with a 5.540,
you know?
That's gone.
That's gone.
But so I have this and I'm thinking about it and it's something that me and my friends
have talked about about different guys and these and for some reason this pops up in
my dream.
And again, Randall Cunningham, my favorite quarterback of all time, and it's my dream and
Randall got hurt like week six.
No.
That's funny.
Oh, it's my.
I could dream.
I could dream that he was a quarterback for the Bears and no, I dreamed that he was back
at the Eagles and that he got hurt in week six.
Not right.
Oh, I mean, that's so and that was kind of what I was referring to, you know, before
we started, it's like, you know, wow, I, he would be great.
I think in today's game, he would be utilized better than he was.
But then I think, oh, what happens when he takes the first hits and I'm like, oh, Lamar
Jackson is not a small man.
No, he's big.
He's, you know, beefy, he's muscular.
He's strong.
And just like, you know, Jaylen hurt same thing, you know, those guys, those are not small
guys.
So they can take hits easier, you know, I mean, still, it's still not good.
But you know, they can take them easier than some other guys.
So you look at guys that are the, the, the build of a quarterback in the NFL today.
And I think that you look at a lot of these guys and you look at somebody like Tuha and
you worry because of the injuries in college and then certainly we see how one year one,
in the off season, he's taking Kung Fu, Taikwondo, these things to help him learn how to
fall better.
And he puts on a bunch of weight, but his mobility isn't there anymore.
So while he, he, he, he's healthy all year long, which is impressive, I think on its
own right.
But he's not the mobile guy is.
So this off season, he's been built like getting his structure better and maybe a little
bit of weight, but not as much and some of these.
This is just an example of what these guys go through and trying to figure out, well,
what's the right body type to do this job now?
Because we're not sure.
We don't know for at least like over, like 80% of football's life, we knew what a quarterback
looked like and what they were supposed to be.
Right.
And that is completely out the window now.
Now, now it is very so different, so different.
Yeah.
And also I can't help it.
It does lead me into the Jordan Love Conversation a little bit because I genuinely felt, I'll
let the audience in on this.
I thought on Monday, when we touched on the Jordan Love contract, that would be it.
And by Friday, because I knew we didn't have a show Wednesday, by Friday, this contract
would have been in place.
And I have yet to hear, I don't listen to a lot of talking heads out there, especially
in sports.
There's a couple that I do listen to, but especially this summer, I've been hearing a little bit
more of Wisconsin talk radio and Wisconsin sports talk radio in particular.
And the big voices that everybody knows out there and everything.
And I don't hear anything intelligent from any of these people.
I don't hear anything insightful, I don't hear anything, and I'm not blaming them for
that.
I got nothing for you either, man.
I'm not saying this like I'm coming at this from some amazing angle that nobody's thought
of.
Profound insight.
I know Jordan loves cousin or something.
I got nothing else for you either with this, but that's my point is that this is where
we've gotten in this conversation where everybody, everybody is like, what the what?
How has this not happened yet?
And I will come back to this because I don't think we've heard this part of this enough
is this organization, you'd trust with your kid.
Like if the packers drafted your kid, you'd feel confident with that.
Right.
Well, this is a well run organization.
I think my child is going to be okay working for this organization, that kind of thing.
If you feel that way about them, do they know something or are they playing this the
right way?
And I'm just not me and many of us, many, many, many of us are just not seeing that because
what I'm hearing from some of the smarter minds out there is that, well, it's going to be
50, 52, 53, something like that, 200, some million guaranteed blah, blah, blah.
Is he worth it?
Is he worth it?
The same questions that come up with almost every quarterback, just the details are a little
bit different.
Right.
You're to a conversation, your DAC conversation are going to be very similar.
Just again, the details are a little bit different.
But with the fact that there's so little difference between some of this money, and I'm
talking about millions of dollars here, like I've ever even been close to that in my life.
I was going to say for us, it's quite a bit of money, but in the scheme of thing for
them, it's not really.
The difference of 51 to 52 million or 53 million a year or something like that is, you
know, it means something to these players to the degree of, I want to make more than
DAC.
Right.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Or something like that.
But all of those things going in, it just, it screams, why hasn't this been done?
Yeah.
So all I could do is scream back into the abyss.
I mean, they must know what they're doing.
I feel like, I feel like if there's an organization and football that has earned a benefit
of the doubt, they've got to be one of the top five.
Yeah.
They've made good calls in, in, for the most part, with that franchise.
You can make plenty of conversations.
I know 99% of our audiences, Packer fans, and I'm sure you can call in and tell me how
they have mucked things up from time to time, right?
But compared to so many other organizations, I think that you, you, you feel pretty good
betting on them.
And right now, they're betting on them, they're betting on the Packers right now.
And, and the fact that they're dragging their feet on this, the fact that they haven't
made a call yet, I am curious to know what, what the true reasoning is, especially if we
could, if we could just be a fly on the wall and, and understand what's going on in that
organization when it comes to this white hasn't been made yet, I do know that there is the
concern of paying the quarterback and it taking up so much of this salary cap.
And if you pay attention to football, you know, all of this conversation already.
Yeah.
The Denver Broncos.
What example about what can happen?
Yeah.
And a perfect example as well as this money is monopoly money.
Mm hmm.
This is monopoly money.
It doesn't, it almost doesn't even matter in some ways.
Because for one, if you're worried about this blowing up in your face, look at what Denver
just did.
Mm hmm.
And what they just, the guaranteed money, they gave Russell Wilson to leave, to leave.
To go.
Like, and they got, they didn't even get anything in return.
They didn't even get hardly a low ranking draft, I mean, come on.
What looks more foolish?
You give Jordan love the contract and he doesn't live up to it or you let Jordan love walk
and he does something great in another uniform.
Mm hmm.
And you did all of these things.
You drafted three years early.
You've got him sitting there.
He's learning from a great, all this blah, blah, blah, and he's gone in a year or two.
Yeah.
Like, that doesn't.
What was the point?
Yeah.
Nobody thinks that makes sense.
I don't believe for a second, that's going to happen.
So just sign the guy and sign him while you can sign him a little bit cheaper than before
DAC or tour or somebody's guys get their contracts.
I don't.
It's almost like they think there's that they're seeing something that that we're not about
his performance or there's something in his medical history or something that's keeping
them from, you know, just going ahead and signing him.
So two big questions.
One, if you don't believe that Jordan love is worth this money and let's be honest, nobody
is.
Nobody is worth any of the money.
To be fair, these athletes.
No, it's ridiculous.
Right.
It is also ridiculous what these owners pull at two hundred percent.
It's all fair.
It's all.
It's all together.
We know what we're talking about here.
Yeah.
But if you're not going to give him the contract, if you don't think he's worth it, I mean,
then what was what was the point of any of this?
What was the point?
And who you got?
Okay.
Who's here?
Who are you going to bring in?
Who are you bringing in to take over this spot?
And what happens when they get good and you've got to pay them, you're just going to keep
up this cycle of we're always going to pay a quarterbacks.
Here's some potatoes.
Here's some potatoes.
Go ahead and make something out of that.
It doesn't make any sense.
Every NFL team has to deal with this.
And while not every NFL team is the smallest market team in sports, they are all dealing with
the same salary cap.
They're all dealing with the same problems, pay them, move on from it and figure out how
to get good players with that contract on your books, because that's what good GM's
do.
Yep.
That's your job.
Yeah.
Because none of this, there's no positive to not signing him.
There's no, please call up 424-2600 to tell me the positive of not signing him.
Because I cannot think of one of them and I have thought about this and looked into this
and I, everything I hear that is accounted for that doesn't add up to me.
Doesn't make sense.
I don't know where you go from here other than paying him and moving on so the subject
is gone.
Right.
Right.
You don't know everything about it yet or him, you know, you've had a very small sample
size to work with.
And part of the season last year, he was actually pretty bad.
And then he was good.
And I don't know if that has something to do with it too, if they're like, they're not
convinced that he can pull together a whole season, which I guess is understand.
But the main thing for me, as always, where's the replacement, okay, where is the, what
is it you're waiting for?
He just saw the bears.
Yeah.
Get rid of a player who had been, you know, he hadn't reached his full potential yet, but
he was getting better and he looked pretty good last year and all this stuff.
And they said, that's nice.
We can't, we can't, you know, pass up on this, this other guy.
Yeah.
We have to do it this way.
And they got rid of him for basically a song again and one of those things where they
didn't really get anything back for it.
And they went because you have to, yeah, you got to do it.
There's almost no way Caleb Williams can live up to that right now in season one.
He can eventually, yeah.
But down the line, all you're going to have is NFL, quote unquote, experts and fans of,
not only the bears, but of the NFL pointing at every time he throws a pick and every time
Justin feels does something well.
Yeah.
Now, that's what you're walking into.
If you don't sign, if we sign Jordan love, if you don't lock him up and all of those
things, now they've also got franchise tags and everything.
I don't believe the Jordan love will ever probably until his 10th, 12th year or whatever
is ever going to play for another team.
Then we all know he'll be traded to the Jets.
That's just, you know, how this works, but I don't cycle this horrible cycle that they
keep on.
There is no positive to not signing him and not getting this taken care of and done.
Not only do you not have somebody else, but do you want to look like the bears, do you
want to look like that?
Yeah.
Do you want to look like a team that does like the, even the 49ers who have almost all
the respect the NFL has to give, more than Dallas, more, you can make the argument.
There is no team respected more in football than the 49ers.
The Kansas City Chiefs are very close, but that's, you know, relative memory.
That's recent memory and stuff.
Overall, in our lifetimes, the 49ers are NFL royalty.
They're the elite team, yeah.
And they just got rid of Tray Lance for a song after trading up in the draft forum and everything
because they got lucky with a kid at the end of the draft.
The literal end of the draft.
For one, we don't know what we're doing with quarterbacks.
We have no idea.
And anybody that tells you different is lying to you or has reached a sell in San Francisco.
Because yeah.
I heard it kind of a gag.
Someone was saying kind of flippantly that Mike Shanahan hates all of his draft fix.
Yes.
It doesn't matter who he drafts.
He hates them all.
It just so true.
I want to talk a little MLB all-star game with you Seth.
I know that's how Shanahan, I'm sorry, I said Mike.
Yeah.
By the way, he, I saw him in a picture, Kyle, and he shaved the beard.
He just has the mustache.
He had the hair slick back.
Thought he was going to sell me a car.
He looked good.
He looked good.
No, you look good.
Wow, this car here has got to, he's definitely, that's got to say, it's got to say great
side-game right there.
Can we get to sell you this car?
The MLB all-star game is Tuesday, July 16th over in Texas.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
Seattle's in Seattle, a team mobile park in Seattle, I believe.
It is?
No, I thought it was in Texas this year.
It's a mobile life park?
No, where is it?
Right.
It is.
I've looked at the wrong thing here.
Oh, okay.
I got excited because I like the all-star game.
I like the MLB all-star game.
I think it's a fun one.
I want to talk a little bit about it.
It's the best of all the sports.
I mean, really.
Easily.
Easily the best.
I think it is.
Because they at least try.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I, there is something at stake, you know, with Homefield Advantage in the World Series.
They don't do that anymore.
That's right.
They just do best record now.
Did you like that?
Not really.
I thought it was dopey.
I know why they did it.
I was at the game that, that's wrong.
I was at the 2002 all-star game in Milwaukee and I can't tell you how, oh, man, everyone
was so upset.
I don't know why.
They were just so upset about it.
It's like, dude, it's an exhibition game.
It's the all-star game.
Who cares?
It was just cool to be there to see it.
But yeah, then they brought in the, no, it counts thing.
No.
No.
To me, it's an exhibition game.
That's all it is.
They have that kind of meaning to it.
They finally figured it out and it's like, no, whoever says the best record is the one
who should get the Homefield Advantage, which is what they do in every other sport.
So that's the way you should do it.
I also think you can't force emotions out of pleat people no matter how hard you try.
And for every Pete Rose in an all-star appearance, you're going to have somebody, like, not,
I'm not picking on him.
John Cruck, I think worked hard and tried hard.
You don't make it with that body in the MLB, not being a hustler, not working your tail
all the time.
Very talented.
Very talented.
Great eye.
You said great hitter.
Great hitter.
Great hitter.
But he also approached the game with a little bit of child-like fun and everything.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You take it too seriously.
Yeah.
Neither of those guys were going to play any differently, no matter what was at stake.
Right.
I think that's a fair point on it.
And I think that if there's already kind of stuff on the line when it comes to the
all-star game for these individual players oftentimes, whether it is one to show a good
performance or show up somebody, or even just strategy-wise, hey, our team's pretty good,
we could end up in the World Series.
I might be facing this guy in the World Series.
It's playing for the other division, other league.
Yeah, there's something to that, too, I think.
Anything so.
I'm going to tell you one thing, though, man, if you are, if you end up being the MVP of
the all-star game, that's with you forever.
Yeah.
Look at the catcher for the Rockies.
He was the one last year and they still talk about every, for the rest of his career.
It'll be, you know, all-star game MVP Diaz, you know, LRD is there for whatever's first
day in his.
Yeah.
That's one of the nice things about it.
When we take a look at the American League, Aldley Rushman is going to be starting a catcher.
His first starter election for the Baltimore O's, having a great season.
He has.
He's the best catcher in baseball, I would say, right now.
And it's certainly overall, and especially with some other catchers either getting hurt
or not having the seasons that they used to, I think he stands out right now.
Absolutely.
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
definitely stands out.
He's just a big guy.
Third starter election already for him and already a nice, a nice career already going
on.
Man, he's been hitting the cover off the ball this summer so far.
He's, he's like in the top five of a hard hit rate, which is amazing.
He's having a stellar year, and that's saying something already for him.
Yeah.
Second base, Hoseil Tuve, his sixth starter selection there for Houston.
Not surprising him getting the run, but not Hall of Fame.
I've been wondering about that, and I, so here's something that's kind of
funny to me.
Well, since MLB didn't really punish these guys, will the, well, the Hall of Fame voters
punish them?
Yes, they will.
Yeah.
I can almost guarantee they will.
If, you know, if Korea ends up with a career that's, you know, that's worthy of the
hall.
If L2V and L2V is probably, he's got to be the closest of all the position players from
that.
Yeah.
I think it is going to cost him.
Yeah.
I think your, your Verlanders, your guys like that, they didn't spend their whole careers
there or something.
Verlander will be affected.
No, they will be affected.
I can't wait for, I don't want just a Verlanders career to end period, but I do look forward
to his Hall of Fame speech.
Yes.
That'll be the big interesting.
Is he going as Detroit or Houston?
Yeah.
That is interesting.
Oh, I can't wait to see that.
But anyway, yes.
Gunner Henderson sitting there at shortstop, his first starter selection, get used to that
name.
Yes.
He is having a fabulous year.
We are in, James and I, I think we've talked about this off the air.
We are coming into another golden age of short stops.
Look at the short stops we have right now.
I mean, the young guys, Gunner Henderson, Bobby Witt Jr., they're kind of the top right
there.
Francisco Lindor, still having a great career, Korea having a big bounce back year this
year.
We've got another young guy out in Anaheim, that net oh guy.
He's going to be really good.
The Cruises.
Wow.
You know, when the, yeah, daily cruises, yeah, yeah, both of them are kind of magnificent
arms.
That's the other thing.
Guys got killer like cannons from arms and everything at shortstop and is strong point
by you, man.
One of the, I'm going to piggyback on that.
Look at the guys that have had to move because they don't short a friend of, for an end
of to the junior or somebody like that, who was a great shortstop, but they, we got a
movie because we got too many good shortstop.
He's due to a great right fielder, which is fabulous.
A mooky bet who moves into that spot did well, did well at this point on his own.
He's not going to be a spectacular defensive guy, but he's still doing all right.
I think they're going to move him the second when he comes back.
I think they're going to probably put him there and when they get rid of him, depending
what they do with Gavin Luxe, he's probably going to back in second play.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The, these, the young, some of the, for every young player that is exciting and everything,
there are these ones that just shake your head at and like, man, he didn't work out
yet.
Well, what happened?
Yeah.
Well, what happened?
Yeah.
And Detroit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jose Ramirez at third base in your A L, third selection.
He can start every year.
Yeah.
He is so consistent.
Oh my gosh.
He's so good.
Yonder Alvarez getting his first starter selection for the Astros at DH, one of the best
hitters in baseball.
Yeah.
Aaron Judd in the outfield.
He is going to be joined by Juan Soto, his Yankee teammate, Soto's first starter selection.
Boy.
He's only 25.
He's only 25.
I can't get over that, man.
He's okay.
I'm not a Yankee fan at all, ever.
I was so happy this week that the red swept him in the Bronx.
I was like, yeah.
It's pretty cool.
But man, Aaron Judd is something else.
Yeah.
He's like on another planet right now.
He's just an amazing player.
There's certain guys.
It doesn't matter what Jersey they're wearing.
It's just fun to watch.
You got to appreciate it.
Yeah.
You got to appreciate what he's doing.
Yeah.
And I mentioned many times.
Rocky Betts is my favorite baseball player.
He has been for a long time.
Win Mookie retires.
I think Stephen Kwan might be my next guy.
I like him.
I'm a fan.
He is.
I mean, so he came up, you know, he's an on-base machine.
You know, got a great batting eye.
He's got a great back control.
Now this year, he's starting to show some power, which was very surprising.
He's one of the best outfielders goal club winning outfielder.
I mean, he's going to be something good.
He's fun to watch.
A fun one out there.
Yeah.
And see, I love these guys that are such, like, when the balls in the air, there's nobody
more hungry or determined in the world than this player.
But when they're just playing, they're just having fun.
They're a kid playing a game on this level, you know?
It's kind of cool to watch.
I like him.
I'm a big fan of his.
Yes.
In the National League, you've got William Contreras, your Milwaukee Burr's starting
catcher with his first starter selection.
That is so darn cool to see.
The Contreras family has now combined to earn the NL starting catcher job four times
since 2018, with the only exception being Sean Murphy last year in Buster Posey in
21.
Wow.
That's kind of cool.
Man, I mean, and William right now is the better Contreras brother.
Yeah.
I mean, Wilson was hurt too, but he's the best catcher in the National League and he's
got to be number two after Rudgeman in all of baseball.
Bryce Harper getting his seventh starter selection, but his first at first base, which is
very cool.
And again, he's having, man, if it weren't for Judge, if it weren't for Shohei Otana,
we'd be talking about Bryce Harper because he's having another great year.
He, while he is nursing a hamstring, he has gone on record as saying he will play in
the game.
He is going to be playing.
That's great.
I hear it.
Another one of these guys where it means something.
It really does.
Like they could, they could all be divas that may be in stuff, but they show what they're
really made of when they're playing hurt or they're playing in the NL star game for
fans and everything.
And then, and then he does that thing with that kid to ask about his prom date, trying
to, if you heard about that story, that was a fabulous story.
All my awesome story.
It just goes up to his house.
It knocks on the door.
And he's there.
It's like, hey, what's going on?
Wow.
That is an awesome story.
Yes.
Katal Marte for the Arizona is getting his second starter selection at second base, possibly
one of the most underrated players in the league.
Yes.
He's had several good years in a row and he's, he's very good.
Now, a trade turner starting at a shortstop, but Moogie Betts came in real close to this
one, even when being on the IL and like Turner, both of them, though, yeah, have missed too
much.
I mean, he would have, he would have been the starter if he hadn't gotten hurt for 100%.
Trade turner those missed most of the first half.
Yeah.
And that one, I was a little about, there's other deserving players, short stops out there.
That's just it.
If there were nobody doing any good at that position, I'd be okay with it.
But there's a couple like C.J. Abrams.
Yeah.
Another great try.
How many, man, there's so many fabulous short stops out there, C.J. Lindor, like I said,
he's having a good year.
I mean, yeah, there's a lot of good ones out there that could either be in a second and
shortstop.
I think you can say that with those positions.
Yeah.
It's a little bit tougher at third where Alex Baum is going to be getting his first starter
selection.
As a side note, Baum is the second to throw his hat in the ring for the Derby.
All right.
Cool.
You got those two.
You got two names so far for the home run Derby, Gunner Henderson and Alex Baum, both
going to be in that.
That's excellent.
New names and some young, some great bats going in there and Bob's having a career year
so far this year.
So it's good to see.
I hope he does a good second half.
Any guy that's over Manny Machado, which I've kind of, I always like, I'm just, I kind
of, I'm not, just not a Machado guy.
Just not a Machado guy.
Not like in the Manny.
I have.
Designated hitter, Shohei Otoni.
Of course.
Kyle Schwarber gets up there though.
Kyle Schwarber has some boats.
Ah, man, do you see Schwarber on the outfield today?
Yeah.
Oh, that was sad.
That's, it's a horrible thing.
Why put that guy out there, man?
Yeah.
Do that to him.
Just don't, just don't.
Like, I mean, I'd put a dog out there before him and I, I'm a huge Kyle Schwarber fan.
I'm a fan of his.
But I would put a dog with a mitt, like tape to him before, yeah, yeah, just hug his
back.
It's just hope.
And just hope.
Just, you know what I mean?
Hey, dogs like to catch, dogs like to play catch, maybe, maybe you catch one, maybe,
does a count if he catches it with his mouth and not the bat and not the glove.
I think this is a debate.
It's something to have.
Ooh, that would be cool though.
That's having that debate.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
Shohei O' time he doesn't play a position or like, can you imagine he played multiple
positions?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That would be, that, I mean, that was just not be fair.
No.
No, it's, I mean, it's not fair enough as it is.
But man, Jackson Profare for the San Diego going to be starting in the outfield along with
Fernando Teteas Jr.
And your Christian Yelich.
I am very excited about Profare.
Yeah.
Again, he's been around for so long.
He was supposed to be the next big thing in Texas and never panned out, but look at him
now.
It's so exciting.
He's in his early 30s to seem to do that, yeah.
Journalistically, I'll mention once again that my, my family is a big, big, big fan.
Not only brewer fans, I'm my, my brother and such, but my, my, my family loves Christian
Yelich.
As they should.
He threw my nephew a baseball and he, he, the man doesn't know it, but he became a
male off that day.
That's right.
That's awesome.
Big fans of his, but I, I think that I'm more of a, more of a fan of his than ever after
the things that he has overcome.
Now, I, again, keeping in mind when I say that, I'm saying that in the sports context.
Yes.
There are plenty of things that everyday human beings overcome that are by far and away.
I'm sure Christian Yelich would say are by far way more impressive.
But this is his second starter selection.
I believe it's his, um, this is a second straight year doing this, but he's been an
else, it's third career all-star, former MVP, and we all know about the ups and downsities
he's had after signing the contract and you, you name me the times that you have heard
Christian Yelich yelling at reporters or, or being a bad clubhouse guy or anything like
that.
Throughout all those struggles or anything, you never heard a bad thing about him.
He never dodged reporters, always showed up to answer questions when, uh, when it was
the bottom of the ninth and Christian struck out or up, gave a pop fly with the game on
the line.
He was still there answering questions to see him have this, uh, MVP like, not MVP run,
but to go from being an MVP in 18 and have that downtime and then you come back injuries
too.
That's one of the better stories and sports right now for me.
Yeah.
It really is.
And I know that I'm, I'm close to it and everything.
I admit all of that, um, but I, I love seeing this for him and I'm happy for brewer fans.
Right.
It's interesting because he, he has gone, he's back to where he was before.
He had those MVP seasons.
He, he was always a good player.
Good hitter.
He just didn't hit a lot of home runs and then all of a sudden those two years.
And by the way, 2019 doesn't count because the ball was totally juiced that year.
Yeah.
You see how many home runs they were here in that 2019 year?
The ball was juiced.
Okay.
It's hard.
I don't care what MLB says.
It was, yeah, juiced.
Well, especially once they get called out for it and everything and, uh, sports centers
doing reports with the ball in their hand and everything.
All of a sudden that changed.
All of a sudden it changed.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know what you're talking about.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
Don't look over here.
Just admit it.
Just admit it.
I, I, I want to know how many people are going to watch the all-star game and let me hear
from all of you, especially with the brewer consideration with them being a couple.
I also think who you, who do you think should be in there that isn't?
I will nominate Bryce Tarrang as somebody who I think should be, instead of fabulous
year.
Yeah, especially with what we were just saying about second base and everything, uh, not
being, uh, you know, being a lot of, a lot of injuries.
I think, I think you'll make the team.
I think he will.
I got to think, I got to think there's, yeah, you got at least three brewers going to
the all-star game.
I think so.
I do think he's going to be in there.
Um, I don't think there's going to be any brewer pitchers in there.
Freddie's having a pretty good year, but it's kind of been up and down for him.
Yeah.
So, and he's there.
He's basically their ace.
So, yeah, but I think at least three brewers will get in there.
I think that's a great question of what brewers.
I mean, no, what pitchers are going to be actually in the all-star game.
Cause I think it's good luck.
Good luck figuring it out.
I, if I were running baseball, I would, I would like lean into the young thing for
the National League, Paul Skins is starting the all-star game.
Yeah.
You want to, you want to, you want to get your big, your young stars out there, give
him a huge showcase after what he has done so far since he's been called up.
Man, it's like he's playing in a differently.
I mean, it's, it's amazing.
The, the showdown with him and Otani is, is one of my favorite moments of the sports
year.
Oh, God.
That was so good.
It couldn't have been written better.
Yes.
It was perfect.
It was such a great, like, four at bats.
It was, four, four at bats.
I want to see him and air.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In a, in a, at bat.
That would be awesome.
Pittsburgh got some nice young talent.
They do.
They do.
Crews and him and the Jones kid and everything.
Yeah.
Got some nice talent over there.
We'll take a time out.
We'll come back and take some of your phone calls.
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Right, right.
I don't know a lot about sewing.
If you want to get in sewing, I can't help you.
That would be interesting for a sports show, too.
Very, very interesting.
Hey, where are my Canadian football league fans, man, I want them to call in.
Come on.
Seth has got an hour or two worth of Canadian football talk just waiting to go, just waiting
to unload on us.
Well, they're playing right now.
Hey, if you like football, I mean, their season has already started, so.
And we certainly have seen some athletes go from there to here.
It's happened before.
It's happened before and were probably those famous Doug Flutey did that.
We've got the quadri-ismail, I think it was, it did as well.
We were kids.
Man, rocket ismail.
Those are some days, man.
Those kids.
I want to look at a little bit of the Olympics as they are just around the corner, coming
up at the end of the month here.
The summer games are one of my favorite things.
I enjoy the Olympics.
I think a lot of people do, and even people who don't get into them end up watching some
of the Olympics are paying attention, especially with the sports calendar being what it is.
What's the medal count up to?
You know, that one exactly, exactly.
We all know that.
And while we don't know a lot of these athletes, by the end of August, we will know many of them
and be cheering their names.
But what sports we'll be doing that in are going to be a little bit interesting, too,
because there are some several new-ish sports big football players.
skateboarding, sport climbing, surfing, and three-on-three basketball are all new Olympic
events, along with breaking.
Breaking.
Yep.
Breaking.
Breaking as in breakdancing.
Is that Olympic sport?
For the US, you are going to have Jeff Rowe and logistics ex-qualifying and being Olympic
athletes this year.
Wow.
Now I, I don't know if many people remember this or know this or not, but I've mentioned
on the air before, the very first entertaining thing I ever did was breakdancing.
My friend Jamal and I got paid 20 bucks each, which was a lot in the early 80s.
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah.
I mean, come on.
I think I was like 10, maybe 11 or something like that.
We breakdanced for my aunt-nays, covered bridges.
They had a big Christmas party every year, and covered bridges, I don't expect anybody to
know this.
At the time, richy people, very rich area and stuff.
Very bougie from that.
Yeah.
So they thought it'd be fun to have some ethnic kids from the other side of the tracks come
in and do some breakdancing.
So we did.
And it was, you know, I don't know if they got their money's worth, but we did.
Certainly.
Yeah.
You guys were like, all right.
Woo.
They clapped for us afterwards, and I've been chasing that clad, that, you know, applause
my whole life.
Yep.
There was something about it.
But I got a love for breakdancing.
I have a love for dance in general.
I think it's fun.
I'm not saying I'm a great dancer, but I love two dance, and I think it's a lot of fun
to do.
And I do think that there is some athleticism in there.
100%.
It being an Olympic sport, I don't think, I think it's pretty, I think it would be
harder to make the case that it deserves to be in there than not.
Right.
I think we could almost all of us agree on that one.
But at the same time, you know, this is an entertainment project.
It always has been, always will be.
That's a big part of the Olympics.
As much as a lot of us love the athletic part of it, or the country part of it, where
we get to root for our country, or others, or whatever, this is something that ratings
matter, and certainly advertising dollars matter to these sports.
So asking, bringing in new, new, new athletic things is just something the Olympics have
done.
And literally, since the dawn of the Olympics, I feel like, though, there's a couple of
things here where I'm not, I feel like I'm looking at this a little clouded, both sides
of it.
One, that I love break dancing.
But also, man, I might have been able to make, I was going to say, that's the first thing
that popped into my mind, but I was like, what?
I mean, now it's, they're just, you know, 40, 30 years too late for you, but, you know,
just just, just, just, just, just to buy a hair, just, just to buy a hair.
I, like, oh well, I, I can't, I wasn't, I'm not a
great, great dancer, would break dancing.
I could do it all.
Yeah.
Right.
I would built for it.
I could have been a great one.
I don't know.
I could have at least got us a bronze, man.
I could have at least got the bronze out of this.
I'm a little frustrated about that part.
I don't know that.
That's cool, though.
I, I also think that it's, um, if you're trying to grow the Olympics, you're trying to
get more eyeballs and everything.
So you want to skew younger and stuff.
Breakdancing?
That was hip, we were kids, like, I don't know if it's been since the 40-year-olds involved.
These they want.
It's like, you know who we haven't got.
The demographic we're really looking for is 40 to 46.
Yeah.
It's like, what?
Okay.
And they'll be, it'll be more out of curiosity.
Breakdancing.
Really?
Okay.
I find that quite interesting.
I really, really do.
I'm not sure.
Oh, boy.
I'm not sure the thought process of that.
How do I score that?
I don't know the scoring scheme for that.
That's, hmm.
How does that work?
That's going to be fantastic.
I'd be terrible at it.
I know that.
I cannot wait to watch and watch the insane, like, uh, because the commentators,
are going to have to talk about something and they got to talk about it seriously.
Do you need to have lingo for any kind of sport to work?
You know, you need to have that kind of insider language, you know?
You know what?
The problem with that one move right there.
He wasn't popping a locket.
If he had only popped it and locked it, he just popped it.
He didn't lock it, though.
That was the problem with that one.
That was a sick worm.
The problem with his worm was his legs weren't wiggly enough.
You've got to get the legs wiggly.
That's why you need to shake his wiggly.
No, you can't use that in sports.
No, you can't.
You got to, you got to find a euphemism for it.
There's got to be something.
There's got to be something.
I'm looking forward to that.
Also, uh, one of our favorite things about the Olympics is certainly not only rooting
for Americans, but getting a little bit deeper into that and looking a little closer
with the magnifying glass and single.
Who's representing our states is representing for your local state and everything.
Yeah.
Uh, right now, former volleyball legends, Lauren, uh, Carlini and Adana Ratke are
we'll be sporting red, white and blue, so switching from their crimson red of badgers.
They're your badger volleyball players going very cool.
Uh, you've also got that they're going to be joining the 12, uh, before the United States
12 women, 24 women's Olympic volleyball roster.
Okay.
And I look at a roster team for our volleyball.
That's going to look really good.
That's going to be cool.
Lauren O'Connor, Grace Joyce, Maddie, Wanamaker and Sofia Vitas will search for goals
as members of the country's rowing squad.
Oh, see, growing is interesting.
Yeah.
That's a fascinating thing.
I actually think it's interesting to watch.
I know a lot of people would be, oh, you're just paddling.
Well, yeah, that's true.
But it's the teamwork involved.
That's the cool thing about it.
You've got women's rugby star Alex Kettler, uh, who will also suit up for the final,
for her final, uh, US Olympian of 2024 rugby.
Huh?
Uh, so that's going to be interesting too.
Uh, you got a couple of Wisconsinites and a couple of former badgers in there for that.
Oh, wow, cool.
Track and field as a couple of athletes as well.
There's a Wisconsinites scatter all over the Olympics.
That's really cool.
Yeah, there's a lot to look forward to.
I think, uh, when it comes to the games and it's going to be fun.
I think it's going to be exciting.
Uh, we are going to get to our final time out of the hour.
We're going to go ahead and burn our, our last time out.
We're going to burn it.
I'm all right with that.
I'm okay.
We'll be all right.
We'll come into the home stretch here.
Uh, when we come back, I got our stat of the show coming up.
And I also want to get into some crazy things that have happened to the Stanley cups.
And we certainly want to talk to you.
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Otherwise, I'm going to get into a little bit of a stories of what the Stanley Cup has been through
in a moment.
But first, our stat of the show, we got to get some theme.
We need a theme music for that.
Yeah, we really do.
Yeah, if you're out with that, you mean, guys, anyway, most sports fans out there
understand that on July 1st, it is Bobby Bonilla Day.
Uh, that's right.
The New York Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla.
Uh, they, uh, the, uh, the New York Mets paid Bobby Bonilla another installment of $1.19 million.
Uh, he has not played in the majors since 2001, but he will be paid through 2035 when he's 72.
Great retirement plan, Bobby.
You are smart man smart man.
Uh, I, I think that it is also noteworthy as our stat here that Bobby also has a second deferred
contract with the Baltimore Orioles for another $500,000 every year from 2004 until 2029.
Well, he was obsessed with the firments.
Why?
But I want to know why.
Maybe this was just his thing.
He's like, Hey, I know I can't play for very long.
You know, baseball players, pretty short career and the scheme of things.
I'm going to make sure I got plenty of my retirement.
What a smart guy.
Bobby Bonilla had six all stars, three silver sluggers and one of World Series in 97 with the Marlin.
He did.
I'm a good player, very, very good player.
Yeah, a strong career.
I don't believe he's a Hall of Famer.
No, and I don't know if he will make the Hall of Fam, but none of that is worth the money
that the New York Bats or the Baltimore Orioles are paying.
If you know what I mean, that was all respected, Mr. Bonilla.
Absolutely.
You know what I love about it?
The Mets have embraced it.
Mets fans at first, they were so upset.
Like, yeah, because they were supposed to be the big thing.
You know, they signed into a big deal and all this.
It didn't work out.
He left and everyone was like, we're going to be paying this guy for the next.
I don't know how many years and now it's like, it's like a badge of honor.
And in the scheme of things, it's not that much considering what the Mets pay roll is.
Yeah, yeah.
So I love it.
I think it's great.
I think it's just a fun one to bring up every year.
It is.
It is time of year.
Like a holiday.
It's such a funny story.
It just is.
And it's one of those ones that never gets old to me.
No, we've been hearing this for years, decade at least, and it never gets old.
We've got the Stanley Cup was recently handed off to the Florida Panthers.
And congratulations to them on a great season and winning that thing.
And also changing, I think a cool thing about the Panthers that happened.
They had won the president's cup a couple of years ago at the highest scoring team.
I think of all time in hockey and lost in the first round.
And where a lot of almost every organization in sports will run it back.
You know, it's hockey that happens or something like that.
They said, no, we need to play play off hockey.
We need to figure this out.
Completely revamped their offense, their team, and a couple of years later, win a cup.
And I think that is unique and cool and doesn't happen often in sports.
And I hope it encourages more GMs and more ownerships to take chances and to not just do the status quo, right?
Especially in hockey, where it matters.
It really does.
I want to talk a little bit about the Stanley Cup.
First of all, for those that don't know, the first cup was being awarded in 1893,
making it the oldest of all of our awards that we hand out of our big awards we hand out.
Okay.
Oh, wow.
That's true.
Keep adding to it.
And that's pretty darn cool.
Yeah.
And for those that don't know, there's only one cup.
Now they do retire rungs of it.
Oh, they do that.
I didn't know.
Oh, I thought it was just going to keep getting bigger.
And I think I think that they did that for a while.
And then eventually it's just been too big.
So I believe if I've got this right, I could, you know, you could go ahead and call me up and let me know if I've got this wrong.
But I do believe that the one, the first rung is, is at the hall or something like that.
Okay.
Maybe they moved a couple of middle ones or something along those lines.
But it has been through quite a bit over the years recently.
It got a dip in the ocean with the Florida Panthers.
Okay.
I believe that Matthew Cachuck took it into the water, like dove into the water and held the cup above the water.
Cause it is saltwater.
You can't necessarily get metal and saltwater.
Yeah.
I'm like, geez.
I'm glad that didn't, that could have turned out horribly.
But okay.
It's, it's also fed a horse at the Kentucky Derby.
After winning with the New York Rangers in 94, Eddie Oldcheck took the Stanley Cup to the Kentucky Derby and let the winning horse eat oats out of it.
Is that the curse?
Ah, yeah, maybe is that the curse of the Rangers now?
I bet you, if someone's probably said that already, but, you know, I might need a curse for the Rangers.
So yeah, you always do, you always do.
It has been to war.
Mike Bolt is the keeper of the Stanley Cup.
His whole job is to be the Cup's secret service in 2007.
Bolt took the cup to war in Afghanistan to encourage the troops.
Wow.
Well, in the shower in the barracks, alarms went, uh, went of signaling the base was under a missile attack.
Bolt thought it was a drill so he didn't take cover.
Luckily, the cup was not hurt.
Oh, no.
Uh, that's interesting.
Yeah.
I know he had like a Stanley Cup as a full time handler.
Interesting.
It's played street hockey, uh, Martem Brodor, one of the greatest, if not the greatest goalie of all time, uh,
and that is according to my friend, Ryan, uh, has, uh, he has two Stanley Cup wins in, uh, to his name in
20103.
After one of those wins, he took the cup back to his hometown and played a game of street hockey with some folks.
And he let this winning team host the, host the cup in victory.
That's cool.
Uh, Martem Brodor is an awesome interview and an awesome athlete.
Uh, that's just, that makes me even cooler.
Um, uh, it traveled overseas Peter Forsberg took it, uh, over to Sweden as a, uh, a proud
sweet.
Um, it's gone clubbing quite a few times and quite a few nightclubs.
It fed a dog.
Um, this one might, uh, make some hockey lovers a little anger, but Clark Giles put dog food
in the Stanley Cup and let his, uh, for maybe eat out of it.
Oh, boy.
Been on a roller coaster with a robot tie.
Uh, that was certainly an interesting one.
Uh, it's, um, uh, it has been on the Howard Stern show.
It's been on jet ski.
Sydney Crosby took out another jet ski.
It's had quite a bit, but I think maybe the best one.
And I think the top of all of these, uh, including recently eating pasta out of it.
Like, um, uh, the famous goalie that Florida had for a while there.
I got, um, I know.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay.
He was eating spaghetti out of it the other day.
I, I think the, the best one by far is it being baptized, being used for a baptism.
Um, I think that you can't top this one.
Oh, man, life, uh, newborn baby baptism in holy water, baby holding mother's hands, infant
bath and water, baptism in the front, uh, sacrament of, uh, and, and, uh, just beautiful
moment with the Stanley Cup, all of the, all the stuff, it's all the same.
It's just with the Stanley Cup, yeah, um, Sylvan Levedor baptized his daughter Jade in
the Stanley Cup after he won in 96, I mean, I, I, I, I, I don't want to be, uh, insensitive
here.
Right.
By all being blasphemous, please forgive me, I, I'm just an idiot, um, but I think that
is cool.
I think that's pretty awesome.
I don't know.
It doesn't matter what vessel you use to get the water from.
It's the process.
It doesn't matter.
It's a pretty cool story.
Yeah, it is.
But with all that being said, I got to believe that the greatest stories that that cup has
been through are the ones we don't know, but there's got to be some better wood.
There's got to be some stuff on.
Um, it, okay, it's fallen in a million parades.
It has.
It's got dented and whacked and, and I'm just thinking, um, how many bedrooms says it
then?
Well, I was trying, I was trying to go a little PG 13.
I kind of figured I was trying to be able to wait a while without really saying it, but
I'm like, all the things that has seen, I'm going to say being the son of a hockey player,
I don't think I could actually touch the cup for those that don't know.
If you don't win the cup, you never touch it.
Like PK Sue Ben was talking about this.
He never won the cup, got to a Stanley Cup, never won it.
He won't touch it.
Yeah.
You just, that's, that's the honor of the cup and everything, right?
And being the son of one, I've gone and seen the cup when the black box won the second
one.
I went to like a car dealership or something.
No, it was a car car, uh, uh, uh, auto place that had it.
And I went there and I was with like as close to you as I am, uh, and I didn't touch
it.
I couldn't do it.
Yeah.
My dad's voice was in my don't you touch it.
They don't you touch it.
Like it was ET or something.
Like don't touch it.
Um, but I will tell you this, if I had whatever want to stay in the cup, it definitely
would have had some experience in the bedroom, not with me, but it watched.
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