Ka$h Money Karl on Comedy, Podcasting & Mini-Golf Glory (Hour 1)

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Hey, welcome to nightlight, folks.

It is Friday here at nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach, and that can mean only one thing, because we only know one way to do Fridays.

Isn't that right, Greg?

Oh, there's only one way to go, and it's the perfect way, and it involves relaxation, kicking back, and wouldn't you, what's the manner, Pete, that would be for today on Friday?

What's the first word?

Cash, baby.

We're there.

Friday's here and the week's in the rear view.

Whether

you're

still on the clock or already mentally checked out, Pete and Greg are here for you.

So kick back and grab something to snack on.

It's casual Friday with Pete and Greg.

That's like a third week in a row.

I forgot we had casual Friday intro music.

Really?

I

thought it was great.

I thought it was perfect.

It's awesome.

I just forgot we had it.

I was like, you know.

Next week I'll wear a sticky note on my forehead on my giant five head here and just say, casual Friday intro.

I'm going t-shirt over a long sleeve.

I'm pretty casual.

I'm as casual as I get.

Yeah.

I usually wear a shirt with a collar like you're rocking today.

Dom is usually, Dom is in Madison folks.

Say hello to

Dom

over the stream, if you would please.

He's, he's working hard and he's recovering from a migraine.

It is good to have all three of us are healthy.

I think that's the first time since we've been doing a nightlight two point

all three of us

are officially in the lineup.

And Daniel Barry is welcoming us to the airwaves tonight with a what's up guys.

Happy Friday.

Happy Friday to you as well, Daniel.

It is Casual Friday here at Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwab.

Coming to you live from Northeast Wisconsin, Greg Bach is coming to you live from Radio Park in Racine and Dom Lee.

Dom Lee, as we used to call him, didn't really stick like we thought it

would.

He's the man of a thousand nick names now.

That's true.

The Dominator.

Jimmy John's poster boy.

The list goes on and

on.

Jimmy Caesar.

Jimmy Caesar.

That's my favorite

one.

But we are, we make up the Yotter Hay Triangle.

It's a little triangle of personalities here on the airwaves tonight at Night Light for those of you watching on the stream.

We have a great show tonight.

It is Casual Friday and we have a great, I love this guy.

Our guest tonight is, by all accounts, I've heard he's a really cool guy.

I've never met him personally, but.

anyone whose name is Cash and it doesn't end in Patel.

This guy is Cash Money Carl.

Love that name.

He is a professional mini golfer and stand up comic.

And that's a rare, you know, I think it's safe to say we've never had a guest like that on Nightlight.

No,

I mean, honestly, this is the most like, this is the, I'm like,

Tell me more about your life, sir, because I've only been to mini golf for fun.

It's your job.

So we'll talk more with him a little bit later, but that's really cool.

I can't even imagine playing mini golf as a profession.

Yeah.

And, you know, what I didn't realize is a cash use as a cart.

Sorry.

You get

a guy as a

cart?

Okay.

Really?

Nothing.

Got it.

You didn't even get a rim shot from that one.

Like that was just.

Don was just like, what is that?

That's a funny joke.

And you guys treated me like that was Greg's pizza tree joke or whatever it

was.

Excuse me.

There's nothing pizza farm.

My failure was pizza farm.

Folks, if you've never listened to the show before, if I ever say the word, the phrase.

pizza farm.

That means a joke has bombed hard because a long time ago I thought I was coming up with something very funny and I said it and I'm not kidding you like four solid seconds.

Think of four solid seconds of silence.

That's an eternity pizza farm pizza farm.

That's a long time.

If you're

a comic and you

say a joke and you it's absolute silence for four seconds, that's an eternity.

I hope

my jokes tonight are better.

So we've got Cash Money Carl coming up at 535.

That will be fun.

We'll find out what he's up to, where you can see him perform, where you can see him golf, if you will.

And then second hour, Dom, tell

us what's on tap.

This is going to be another edition of Binge or Cringe.

There's no specific thing that we're doing.

It's kind of wide open.

Open answers.

It's not a quiz.

Just Binge or Cringe.

And we're going to.

So, there is no competition.

No competition for this week, but future weeks stand by.

There's a lot more competitions to be had.

A

lot coming up.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

We had a good brainstorm back and forth today.

There's

some

good quizzes coming in the pipeline, but that's

what

we'll do tonight.

Binge Your Cringe, you guys are welcome to play along, share your answers with us.

As you know, the phone lines are always open here at Nightlight 855-752-4842, 855-755 Civic.

You can reach us on the text

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We've got a fun question tonight, too, guys, that I'm excited to get to.

But how are your days?

Did you guys have a good Friday?

Oh, I had a great Friday.

Like

as an Easter?

No, it's like a couple months ago.

I like to recreate.

I like every day is good Friday to me.

It is a fine day, you know?

It's very just, you know, basic week, you know, and which is again, fine.

I'll take basic over like tumultuous and, you know, dramatic and bad, but, you know, it was, I've definitely looking forward to the weekend.

It's going to be a long weekend.

So, you know, we're going to, this is like the, the casual beginning of a nice, nice few days off.

Absolutely.

We got a best of show coming up on Monday.

That's going

to be fun.

Very true.

So we

won't be here live, but we have

some really fun highlights.

I love a good highlight show from our interviews over the last few weeks.

So definitely tune in for that on Monday.

You will have a dose of nightlight if you so desire.

If you haven't eaten too many burgers or steaks or whatever it is.

Dom, how was your day, buddy?

It was really good.

Much better than yesterday.

A little migraine at the beginning of the show yesterday, but not so far today.

So it's been good.

It's been great.

It's been great.

I'm very excited.

I have.

Okay.

Here's my day to day.

in Christmas City, USA.

We have our share of elders up in this, uh, nape of the way, neck of the

woods.

Um, and I, this happened to me two days in a row now.

I have all my routes through town.

I take some shortcuts because we have a lot of slow drivers and I'm not a speed demon.

I don't really speed.

I stopped when I was about 30 and I had like two tickets in a year and it cost me like $12,000 and I'm like, what am I doing?

I don't need to do this anymore.

So, but

please go the speed limit.

That's all I ask.

So I've got the stereotypical person in front of me today who I can't even see.

It looks like no one is driving the car, which means this person is barely, you know, four feet tall driving a car.

It's either a little kid or it's a very old person.

So I take one of my shortcuts and I go around.

and I get trapped behind another person who I can't see ahead in the car.

That's two within three minutes and I'm taking my shortcut and as I get to it, she stops the other person whose head I couldn't see is going by and this person turns.

So now I've got two of them in front of me and I'm going extra slow.

That was my day and that is typically what happens to me here in Marinette.

We have very slow drivers.

We have very fast drivers in Kenosha once you hit the I mean they're everywhere They're not just in Kenosha County, but like there's one road I take home every time and People are like speed demons trying to go around each other and it's like do we're like it's a 45 We're all in one line here, and you're gonna hit many stoplights.

I don't understand what you're trying to achieve at this point I mean you will get there.

I promise you I promise you but I am but the thing is is I am now like I screamed at a guy the other day

Like he couldn't hear me.

He didn't know.

I'd be like, but he, he was, he was going in the opposite direction and he was, he changed lanes.

So he was coming directly at me to go around and I just screamed some expletives.

And I was like, Oh boy.

Okay.

I need to take a moment here because I'm now turning, I'm now turning into the angry driver who follows the rules, which is sometimes.

It can be just as bad because I'm sitting here in judgment of others.

But it's like, dude, we're going to get there.

I promise you.

And you don't look cool for passing someone on the left.

I guarantee you're trying to get to target right now.

That's where you're

going.

Right.

And that is my all time when you get the rev.

Like when I get past

my

pickup truck, I'm going 75 and a 65.

That's about my limit.

But if I'm still going too slow for someone, they'll do the thing where they rev the pickup truck.

And I'm like, I'm sorry, that doesn't scare me.

Do

you know what I do, Pete?

You know what I do?

I take my, no, no, I take my foot off the gas.

If they're behind me and they're, they're on my, on my Tuckus.

Oh, tailgating.

Yeah.

Tailgating.

I will just simply bring the pressure off my foot on that gas and be like, cause I was already speeding.

Like I'll admit it.

Like I usually do five, 10 over on colony highways.

But if me doing 55 in a 45 isn't fast enough, well, let's see how 35 feels cause.

or if you

flash me the, if you flash me your lights,

forget it.

I'm

going

slow, but this guy like would pass me and rev it.

And we get a lot of the people up here that have pickup trucks.

There's a lot of people, there's a lot of pickup trucks up here because people make, you know, runs to the dump and they haul stuff.

And I get that.

But the ones that are like have the lights under the wheels and it's decked out.

And it's like, it's like that old Saturday in that live skit, you know, it's like.

you think you're going to get a better girl.

Yeah.

Or the ones that have like the further out rear view mirrors or their doolies or they're really high up.

You're like, totally.

Dude, let me look at the, let me look at the bed of that truck.

You put, you put, you put kegs of beer and nothing else there.

You got like, don't, you don't need this.

And one I saw recently, there's a bumper sticker and it says your girlfriend's favorite truck.

Oh my

god.

My girl wants to date that guy because of his truck.

Yeah, man.

You want to see the bumper sticker I put in my car?

Oh my gosh.

It cracks

me up.

Oh my goodness.

Hey, let's get to our nightlight question of the night.

This is a good one.

It's graduation season, Greg.

I don't

know if you know that.

Well,

let's do the question, and then we'll go break it down a little bit.

Okay, Tom, if you... Let's talk about the question.

Okay,

question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

What advice would you give

This year's graduates be they collegiate high school, whatever what advice do you have for our future workforce our future?

The next generation if you will what advice would you give graduates?

That is tonight's question of the night so yeah, and we this was kind of our senior producer Tucker's question because he did some reading on this and found that AI people are scared of AI obviously we don't know what the job market is gonna

be like so

Yeah, their kids are not liking it either.

So yeah, a bunch of commencement speeches where people are talking about the importance of AI, they're getting booed, booed at commencement speeches.

Oh man.

So, yeah, what would you, what would you, what would you tell people?

And, and yeah, again, it could be high school.

College masters agree not fourth fifth grade do not graduate middle school

middle school not for everyone guys So let us know what advice you would give and we will read your text throughout the show But join us here in the fun at nightlight on a casual Friday.

That's what we're talking about tonight We've got there's some cool stuff happening.

There's some big movies Greg.

You got to be excited There's a Star Wars movie opening this weekend

and you don't say that very often

I know it's it's the first Star Wars movie since 2019.

The Mandalorian and Grogu is coming out.

I'm going to see it.

I don't, you know, I want to see it in the theaters.

I've seen every single Star Wars movie in the theaters with the exception, I think of solo and it looks fun.

The only downside, you know, we were talking about this last night with Rob Thomas is that the third season of the Mandalorian was not great.

It was sort of a bummer.

And then they were like, we're coming out with a movie and everyone's like, okay.

So my I'm tampering my expectations.

I'm at like, you know, you know, I'm in a mid like if it's just fun, cool, but I'm not looking for anything mind blowing or, you know, like, oh my gosh, this is right up there with the empire strikes back.

Those are not my expectations.

It's a

It's fresh, 63%.

Probably all the reviews are in well over 200, audience 88%.

So I'm mildly encouraged.

I'll check it out.

We've got a lot to get to, folks.

We're going to talk about a very special wedding that took place and that is the reception is still going to take place.

And then beans.

You are not going to want to miss this.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwab and Greg Bach on a casual Friday.

We are coming right back.

Hope you are too.

It's

just a happy song.

I love men at work.

Welcome back to Nightlight, folks.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

You're welcome.

Join us always by Greg Bach coming to you live from racing.

Do people say racing there?

I think it's Racine, but

it is Racine and people in Racine say Racine and there was a long time when I lived here where I would say that is a present progressive verb, not the name of a city and no one liked me anymore.

So I stopped doing that.

But yeah, I say Racine.

Some people say Racine and every time I just hear it like it's like a hot needle in my ear.

Tom you should consider moving to racing because there are a lot of itallians in racing itallians, okay Do you hear that do people say that ever

say that all the time?

I

tell you what is it for you?

I prefer itallians.

Yeah, really?

Yeah, yeah, I like the emphasis on the eye the emphasis on the eye makes it that much better me yes

I always emphasize the second one.

I always say Italian.

The

second I. Italian.

Dom's keeping the focus on the, I didn't know you're that self-centered Dom.

The more I know.

Okay.

Public service announcement here on Casual Friday.

Hey, Greg has a show tonight, folks.

Those of you who are fans of stand-up comedy, great work and people see you.

People can catch me at the laughing tap the new and improved new location of the laughing tap on Jackson Street in Milwaukee tonight 7 30 opening up for Chastity Washington who I believe is one of the is the

funniest

comedian in Milwaukee.

Maybe one of the funniest comedians in the country.

She opens for Roy Wood Jr.

and many others.

She's been on BET HBO and that show will be at 7 30 night tickets are still available laughing tap.com.

And then there are two more shows tomorrow.

So you have three chances to check it out.

Wow.

I will be hosting.

So I won the show is done.

I will

literally be like piecing out.

The chair will be spinning as I run out of the room and there'll be a Greg size plume of smoke.

Why?

You don't want to stand and talk with the people?

No, no, no.

After the show is done here,

because I got to get to because the show

starts at 730 and we get off the way

with

seven.

So I got to drive at a reasonable rate,

but still

get there on time.

Oh,

that's exciting.

Yeah speed but the stand-up and Chastity.

She's so she's fantastic.

Yeah, we'll have her back soon She's a fun guest to have as well.

Well, that's exciting.

Hey guys, there's a big wedding that apparently just happened yesterday Yeah in the Trump family the first family and there's gonna be a big reception in the Bahamas I think this weekend, right?

Have you read about this and have Donald Trump our president says he Was bad timing he didn't have time because of the war so he's not sure if he could go to the

But then he finds time to tweet about Stephen Colbert's last show and said, again, more classless stuff, which is, you know,

unfortunately, he said, quote, he'd like me to go.

You know, this is not good for me.

He explained to radar online.

I have a thing called Iran and other things that one I can't win on.

If I attend.

If I do attend, I get killed.

If I don't attend, I get killed.

By the fake news, of course, I'm talking about.

And we talked a little bit about this earlier, and I said, you know, honestly, when it comes to optics, you going to your son's wedding is actually a good look.

Yeah.

It's a very good look.

Because people already think he doesn't like his kids.

Yeah, which he doesn't.

And I'm sure they have some hard feelings toward him, too.

So you're right.

Why wouldn't you go to this wedding?

And he golfs during the war?

Like, all of a sudden, optics are important here?

No.

Well, let's check here.

There's a great website called didgolftrump.com.

Did Trump golf.com?

It shows you every day he's golfed since he's taken office, and it brings out percentages of how much he has golfed.

Let's see here.

He has golfed 111 out of 488 days since returning to office.

22.7% of his presidency has been spent golfing, and that has cost the taxpayers one.

$155.4 million.

But he can't go to his kid's wedding.

But like you said, he can definitely tweet about Colbert's last show

last night.

At two in the morning, he's got that kind of time.

So that's really unfortunate.

And I don't think a lot of people like Don Jr.

either or his kids, because they're just like, whatever, they're who they are.

But also

he should but also he shouldn't go to the reception why it's not a private island So you know Trump and

probably

not a good idea.

No, that's not a good look optics bad on that one I

you know what?

There are so many jokes to present themselves when you just said that but you have to like you really have to temper yourself Maybe you can read yeah,

maybe you reboot private island with

this true start over.

Yeah, exactly

Exactly of Islands and Trump

And Epstein, never forget.

Greg, you found a story that just cracks me up.

And it's perfect in time for Memorial Day weekend and cookouts.

Oh, yes, absolutely.

So folks, we're going to be firing up the grills this weekend.

We're going to be having some fun hanging out with family, eating some wonderful food.

Well, Bush's baked beans, you know that commercial with the dog and the guy named...

Bush.

They're coming out with a new limited edition dill pickle apple pie and rocket popsicle flavored bushes baked beans is going to come out.

It's being issued.

Actually, it's out right now.

So if you can find it, please buy it, try it and let us know.

But this is a limited edition.

Again, dill pickle apple pie and rocket pop flavored bushes baked beans.

They call them the iconic summer flavors which apart

Each one of them, very good.

Love a bomb pop.

Love some dill pickles.

I love me some apple pie.

But when my beans taste like them, I wouldn't call that iconic.

I would say, is this a dare?

I have to, I'm just going to come out and say I cannot wait to not try these.

None of these look good.

And I don't have beans.

Here's the problem, I think.

Beans have plateaued.

They're making what they make as a bean maker, as it can be, as it can bean mogul.

This is what you're making.

So they're brainstorming in the, in the marketing room.

We need something.

Don't pickle.

Run with it.

Apple pie.

These can't be good, Greg.

They're

available exclusively on Walmart's website.

Go figure.

Actually, no, they're starting tomorrow.

They're available and it's I love this here says building on more than a hundred years of flavor obsession Bush's Bush's is giving its secret family recipe a bold summer spin.

I really think the guys just got into a conference room Maybe popped in edible and say what do we do next man?

Yeah

We're tired of delicious bacon and beans.

How can we mess this up?

Yeah, right, right.

All right, folks.

We are coming right back with Cash Money Patel.

That's not right.

Cash Money Carl will be a very funny guy and a professional mini golfer.

Radio history that's never been done before.

He's going to be here after the news.

Come on back.

It's Nightlight with Pete and Greg.

Welcome back to nightlight folks.

It is casual Friday So thank you for casually joining me peach wabba and Greg Bach as we come to you live on the civic media network on this beautiful It's a little chilly here.

Are you guys is the

weather nice there?

It's 57 degrees in cloudy.

I'll take it brisk Okay

A

little too

brisk,

Dom.

Are you with me there?

Are you siding with Team Greg on this one?

I am with Team Pete on this one, because I have a little sweatshirt.

Yeah, it's a little too brisk for him for my liking.

I feel like every week, every show now, it's going to be like, Dom, where do you fall in the weather?

I'm trying to divide

us.

Make a choice, son.

Taking sides constantly.

Nightlight

is

polarized.

Our question of the night, folks, is what advice would you give this year's graduates?

Be they high school, college, whatever.

They're embarking on a new journey, a new chapter.

This is graduation season.

Tell us what you would tell this year's graduates, whether they be high school or college or eighth grade.

Let's be honest.

I graduated.

My forego.

Yeah, me too.

I think I was a solid C student.

I don't like to brag.

So anyway, all right, we're going to kick things off here with our first and only guest of the evening on Casual Friday.

He is a professional mini golfer.

You heard that right.

Who has reviewed over 100 mini golf courses and played over 500.

He also does a little stand-up comedy on the side, which we'll talk to him about as well.

It's our pleasure to welcome to Nightlight for the first time, Karl Barth, a.k.a.

Cash Money Karl, one of the coolest names in stand-up.

Hey guys, thanks for having me.

What are you doing, Karl?

Good.

How are you?

We're doing very well.

It's Friday and we're loving that and we love that you're here.

We had you scheduled and now you're back.

Is everything okay?

Hopefully everything worked out for you.

Yeah, yeah.

It was with my wife.

She got one of those viral infections that seems to be going around.

Oh, dear.

She had a fever of 103 for a couple of days.

So I was like, yeah, we got to go.

Yeah, it's so funny that made its round through all of us here.

Maybe I know Tucker had it I had it so well I'm glad everything's okay.

It's great to have you here

Are you I appreciate you taking time out from are you on the golf tour right now?

Is there a mini golf tour you're taking time away from to be with us?

No, no, no, okay.

That's in a couple weeks.

So we're

good Well, let's start there I mean

Carl, you and I met some time ago and I didn't know this about you until you told me, but you are a sponsored professional mini golf player and a reviewer.

I mean, let's start there.

Where does that start as far as like you saying, I like doing this.

I want to parlay this into essentially a job.

Yeah, sure.

So obviously I always love mini golf as a kid.

It's something that you can do as a kid as well as to

over 100, so you can't play with Legos, but you can still play mini golf at 100, you know, right?

And after I graduated from school, I decided that I wanted to try to look back at some of the memories I had of this one course that I grew up with that was an indoor course called the Four Seasons, and it shut down in the early 2000s.

And it was just this awesome, cool course that had some of the coolest whole designs that I had ever seen.

and I couldn't find any pictures of it.

So I decided I was going to start capturing mini golf and I created this website called mini golfreviews.com.

Then I found out that there was a mini golf league that was happening around in the Milwaukee area at the time.

And I decided to join up in that and then went through that whole season and tied for first place.

So I was like, oh, that's pretty good at this.

And then I decided, ah, I should see if there's more tournaments, you know?

Like, is this kind of a thing that's all over?

And it turns out there was and it kept going to more tournaments and ended up placing and winning prize money.

And I was like, this is pretty sweet.

And I really wanted to like capture and create like this national archive of mini golf.

So like the courses that you might remember as kids that are missing now that, you know, they've gone out of business or whatever, changing through the years.

capture that and document that so people can see that and basically mini golf reviews became this one a day mini golf hole.

So you see a new mini golf hole every single day.

That is such a great gig.

Like

I didn't even

know when I was growing up that that was an option.

Kind of like lactation consultant.

But it sounds like, you know,

I mean, honest to God, that's the life.

Would you get sponsors for that kind of thing?

Yep, I've gone through several different sponsors throughout the years, whether it's a golf ball sponsor, putter sponsor, scorecard sponsor, or just even people that think I'm an athlete, they want to sponsor me with sports stuff, which I guess I'm considered an athlete.

If I'm topping my class, that makes me like, honest, or yell it or something like that.

But do you have to stretch before you do your sport?

Only what I'm eating.

Yeah.

Um, so I want to make something clear too.

You said you cut, you said it and we moved on, but you don't review mini golf courses.

Like I went to this golf course.

This is great.

You review them whole by whole.

So it's like one specific, correct?

Uh, a little bit of both, right?

Yeah.

So I am doing an overall review of the course, but my whole thing is like,

I want people to see this and I want like, I don't want to make anybody feel bad or out of business.

Like sometimes conditioning is usually the one thing that I'll hit people on because like if you can't play your course, then you're not going to have business.

You are going to go out of business, right?

But like, I'm mostly just, I want to encourage people to go and visit and.

I'll highlight, you know, this is the coolest hole at this course or, um, you know, this was a design I've never seen before.

It's worth checking it out.

Um, but honestly, I really just want people to go out and play mini golf and keep that to be a thriving business.

Yeah.

That was going to be a followup too, because like, you know, we had a group, we had a couple here who do supper clubs.

And one of the things they told us was we're not looking to.

dive bomb these restaurants.

We're not looking to write like terrible reviews.

We want to be positive.

And that, that's what I was going to ask you.

Not that you want to be like mean about it, but you know, you're, you're trying to be positive and have fun and say, Hey, this is good.

Let's go.

Let's have fun and go play some golf with your kids or grandkids.

But I love that attitude towards it.

I appreciate

that.

Yeah.

And I mean, I just, I don't want these businesses to shut down.

So like, you know, unless people are supporting them,

you know they're out of here because that's kind of a thing though that's uh seems to be happening post-covid right like a lot of businesses in general are struggling especially small business um and usually many golf courses are that i mean not that there aren't some that are millions and millions of dollars which is insane to think about but um you know if if i can get people to check out a course that they didn't even know existed in their area that's that's a big win for me

Our guest is Carl Barth aka cash money Carl that one of the coolest nicknames in well stand-up comedy or professional mini golf He does both folks and he's joining us here over the stream Everyone it's funny because I was so excited to talk to you about this because everyone thinks myself included What's mini golf?

I should I should crush this but I never do well like kids beat me and I know it's really embarrassing because I'm there's an elephant a windmill and it's

How do you get better at it?

Like you said, you placed and are you consistent with it?

It seems like one of those things that's sounds might not sound that difficult, but it kind of is.

Yeah, I mean, it's it's like with big golf, as I call it, you know, you have to practice putting.

I mean, they say, right, drive for show, putt for dough.

Yeah, putting is where it, you know, is where really you meet your maker on that.

Like for a miniature golf course, usually a par is like or.

Total first score that you can get for a hole is a six, right?

Think about that in regular golf big golf, right?

You get six shots to get to the all the way across 300 yards or whatever, right?

You're got to get six shots on like 20 feet.

So it's like, yeah, it's definitely more challenging And also the types of courses that you can play right so like a lot of people

think of the windmill like that's usually the the number one obstacle people think about when they think of mini golf but there's courses that have no obstacles whatsoever on them and it's just the the hills and the slopes and you just got to learn how to read a green and there's different materials and all that all plays a fact so um if you look in like europe they even have like there's no greens or anything it's just concrete and that's way more competitive than anything that we have in the states really

I

just imagined a

ball just rolling into the street every time.

Just have a quick follow up because

you mentioned the windmill.

I was on the road once back when I was doing stand up working in St.

Louis with my buddy Jimmy Pardo and Steve I had and we went mini golfing and we're playing a dollar a hole and the windmill is really it can hypnotize you.

Like

I

remember Steve lining up his shot and he's trying to time it, but he got inside his own head.

And the second he pulled the club back and hit it, we both knew it was going to hit one of the, one of the things he just threw his club and started swearing at mini golf.

It was

gorgeous.

I think that's one thing that, uh, as you were mentioning, like you said, even kids can beat you.

That's the great thing about it.

Anybody can do it and anybody can be good and anybody can be bad and anybody can have a good day and anybody can have a bad day.

I think you're always going to have a good day if you come with the attitude of like, let's have fun.

The moment, the moment you throw a club or get mad or swear, you're like, you've lost the narrative on, on, and I'll go for on putt putt.

Cause to me, like what, if you're meeting that man, we're like, this is putt putt, not even mini glass.

I'm going to make it cuter.

This is putt putt.

Can I

give you a fact about putt putt?

Please.

All right.

So a lot of people don't know this, but putt putt is actually a franchise.

So like they own that name.

So if you say putt putt and you're not playing on a putt putt course,

You got to watch out for those.

Oh, no, we're going to get sued.

Oh,

that's

not going to come.

I can't.

I

can't believe you said that.

Oh, wait, whoa, wait.

First he's overspending on the

drum rim shot.

Now this.

So Carl, here's the thing is that, you know, you do this, you do this work, you go to mini golf carts and are.

courses and you play, you review, you were sponsored, you're paid, but you also were on TV for this as well.

Tell us about

your time on Holy Moly.

Yeah, so basically mini golf reviews started taking off and, you know, they have scouts for everything, right?

So, you know, they're looking the country to find people that are mini golfers.

They were looking for people that were actors.

They were looking for just interesting people.

And they were just looking for good-looking people.

So I met three of those criteria

Covering your money maker there with the shades though.

Oh No, no, no, no, this this is a this is a trade secret wearing sunglasses on stage a lot of people say with comedy You shouldn't wear sunglasses because they want to see your eyes But I'm one of the only few people that can actually see the audience when the blinding lights are on me so I can actually

They smart call out things in the room.

Well done.

But yeah, for holding money.

Yeah, they reached out to me.

They're like, we love what you're doing with your website.

We want to have you on the show.

At the time, I was also doing a mini golf fundraiser called Jack putt, where you always put for dough and doing working with charities in the Milwaukee area.

And they really like that.

That's actually where the money shirt came into play with this whole thing.

And I actually got the name Cash Money Carl on the show.

I went on the show is Mr. Minigolf, which was my original alias for that.

And

Some people in the stands were holding Cash Money Carl on their signs.

And I was like, well, it's a pretty cool nickname.

And you can't give yourself a cool nickname like that.

You have to be earned, right?

So I was like, I'm going to stick with that.

And then I was probably about six months later, I tried to stand it for the first time.

I just thought that would be something cool to do.

And that was my stage name.

And I went with it and it stuck.

Do you do jokes about we have about a minute before we have to do a break and then we'll have a few minutes with our guest, Cash Money Carl.

Do you incorporate?

Many golf into your stand-up routine.

Yeah, I definitely have stuff I talk about my experience on holy moly some funny things that happen behind the scenes there Definitely some jokes about how to cash in those big checks at the bank, you know for many tournaments That's a problem.

But yeah, I have a bunch of stuff

related with mini golf, money, food, everything really.

I would give you money if you drove an actual golf cart with just your putter around the mini golf course.

Has anybody ever done

that?

That'd be sweet.

Yeah.

I don't think

I'd like that too

much.

I would do it.

Cut me in.

I want a taste.

All right.

Cash Money Carl is here.

He is a professional mini golfer, folks.

You heard that right.

And he reviews many golf courses, too.

Maybe we'll ask him when we come back after this short break.

What are some of the best courses here in Wisconsin?

We'll do that.

We'll talk to him a little bit about his stand-up.

That is all coming up after this extremely short break.

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Our guest at the moment is Cash Money Carl.

He is a stand-up comic and a professional mini-golfer who reviews miniature golf courses and seems to have a great time doing it.

Carl, we're...

Where would people go?

Where are some of the best courses?

I'm in northeast Wisconsin, north of Green Bay, Greg's in southeast Wisconsin, Dom's in Madison.

Where do we go?

Sure.

Well, first off, I'll have to say the best course that I've ever played ever was Holy Moly.

So unfortunately, you guys can't go and play that because the set's been taken down.

I think they took it down the day of even competition-wise.

But I would say for Wisconsin, I have like two favorite courses.

One's in Door County.

So that would be the Red Putter and Ephraim, Wisconsin.

That one's just got your classic nostalgia and it's really Wisconsin themed.

So that part really nice.

I think that's definitely a good showcasing one.

And they also host one of the largest tournaments in Wisconsin.

So that's in August.

You have to qualify for that, so you have to go and play and you have to get one under par for the course.

But

that one's a

great one and that one's been around for forever.

Probably another one of my favorites would be Swingtime Germantown in Germantown, Wisconsin.

That one actually worked out for a while because I loved the course so much and was helping them with social media and managing and upkeep on the course.

learning the behind the scenes kind of stuff of a mini golf course.

So that was a great experience for me.

The thing I really love about that course is it's not a cookie cutter course.

It was completely designed by them individually, homemade, like they put all the effort into it.

And it just adds a lot of character to the course.

So a great story can be told playing through that course.

So

those would

be my two top choices for Wisconsin.

Now

everybody knows

the Dells has a lot of miniature golf, but that's definitely a quantity over quality type of thing.

Not that any of them are necessarily bad.

It's just nothing that I would be like I'm writing home about it.

It's pretty pretty standard.

Par for the course, right?

Yeah.

Boom.

Oh, look at that.

Look at that.

Well, on that note right there, Cash Money Carl is also a standup comedian.

You were talking about that earlier and you have a podcast with your friend Dean Berg called the Move the Mic Stand.

Yeah, Move the Mic Stand comedy podcast.

Tell us about that real quick.

Yeah.

So I've been doing standup for about five and a half years.

Maybe not always be the funniest guy in the room, but I'm definitely the one that people remember and I have the best business card in the business.

Yeah.

You can find these bad boys all over the U.S.

about 27 million in circulation.

Let's go.

All right.

It's like the

wall drug bumper sticker.

I

love it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If there's anywhere that there's people that are funny, you'll find some cash money.

I know that's how it works.

But

yeah, I've been doing stand up for five and a half years.

pretty much mostly Midwest.

But now I'm starting to feel like I'm hitting my stride and getting more comfortable.

So starting to branch out of the Midwest.

Sorry, Midwest.

And I've been doing a podcast with my buddy, fellow comedian, and more really comedy mentor, Dean Berg, for getting into our second year.

We have over 100 hours of content, which is nothing on you guys.

That's for sure.

We're getting close to 100 episodes, so we're really excited about that.

But basically, we just talk about what's ever on our mind, but also talk about our experiences with comedy, give some tips from our perspective, not that we're experts or anything, but just.

you know, from our experiences, that's the best we can do, right?

And yeah, and we do that weekly.

So we have a lot of fun with that.

And we bring out other local comedians and it's

a

really good time.

I've been enjoying doing that.

And we even basically set up our own studio in his little gazebo in the backyard.

We took it over.

So that's pretty cool.

We call it the three season studio.

He took over his own gazebo.

I love

it.

It

sounds risky.

I want to tip my hat to you, Carl, because I love what you just said.

Most of the people that are trying to endear themselves to audiences in the Midwest Trump at the Midwest and how great we are and you just said I'm branching out.

Sorry Midwest.

It's sort of like so long suckers I'm going And I I want to say I appreciate that you're taking the anti Charlie Barron's approach.

Sure

The Midwest is too nice.

I need to go get in front of people that will actually be like I didn't like your joke and here's why and said I'm just like

New

York City.

Yeah, for sure.

They won't even like it even if they do think it's funny.

Yeah.

You have a date coming up May 29th in Kokona if your website is up to date.

And

by the way, tell us your website and then tell us about the date in Kokona.

Sure.

Cashmoneycomedy.com.

Cash is with the K, but everything else is spelled like it should be.

I did pass eighth grade, graduated from eighth grade.

I think just like Greg's left school.

And the show

that

girls is a new show that they're trying for the first time at the vaudeville theater So Dean and I actually kind of co-headlining that one with just some 20-minute sets But then a couple other newer comics are given given a shot and then there's gonna be an open mic afterwards But

no, it's a

good experience just because it's gonna be in a theater So it's a different setting for what's kind of in the area for us.

So very cool

I love the name of the podcast because, you know, I've been to a thousand open mics and I've seen new comics get on stage and you're like, move the mic stand, move the mic stand, move the mic stand.

You're standing behind the mic stand right now.

It doesn't seem like a lot, but people are looking at the mic stand, move the mic stand.

That's exactly it.

That's the first rule we learned doing stand-ups.

That's why we called it that.

We actually got kind of a push with that from one of our comedy mentors, Joe Stapleton who worked with Bobby Lee.

And Bobby Lee told him that.

So kind of just passing it along.

So yeah, the great Bobby Lee all the way down to us, whatever we are.

But yeah,

yeah.

So cool.

Great gimmick, dude.

I love it.

I love the miniature golf angle.

I love the stand up comedy.

Check out cashmoneycomedy.com.

You can find out where to see Carl, where to follow him on socials.

And if you're in the Kakana area, check out his show there.

It is coming up May 29th.

And I think it's exciting in a theater.

That's pretty cool.

What's the theater?

The Vaudette

Theater.

OK, nice.

Outstanding.

Thanks for your time tonight, man.

It was great getting to know you, and please come back.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

I'd love to.

You got

it.

All right.

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Oh, yeah.

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Pete, what would you tell the youth?

Greg, I have no idea.

Yeah.

I honestly honestly that's the sometimes that's the best advice I don't know at this

point with with the future so uncertain and the job market We don't know what it's gonna be.

I would say don't put all your eggs in the vocational basket Make yourself happy pick a place you want to live a partner whatever it is that makes you happy and Find something that you're passionate about and figure it out because who knows what is gonna happen with AI?

So it used to be like, well, what you were going to do defined who you were almost.

And that's not right either.

But depending on what it is, but I think right now, you can't really do that.

You've got to, it's a cliche, but follow your passion or what you love to do and figure out how to make yourself relevant if AI creeps up and blows everybody out of the

water.

That's understandable.

I mean, Dom, honestly, you're closer to graduation than either one of us.

So what would you tell young people that you may have been in school with right now?

I was just going to say that.

This one hits home, especially for me, because I graduated about a year ago.

Today so may of 2025 I graduated and I got quite a few cards on my group after my graduation And there's one that I actually wrote down here that hit me really hard It was from my uncle and he said this isn't the end of a chapter.

It's the start of your story So it's not the end of anything.

It's the start of of something new and that hit me home that hit home really hard because It's just it's the start of something new you enjoy enjoy life.

This is just the beginning and enjoy it

I love that.

That's, that's very, those are very good words.

And he's absolutely right.

This is absolutely right.

I feel like, I don't know about you, Pete, but like when I was younger, when I was in, you know, after whether it was high school or the age you graduated from college, cause I didn't graduate from college at the, you know, the, the typical age of you will around 22 or 23.

And it was very much a thought of like, Oh, you didn't go to college.

So what, what are you going to do now?

So there was all this pressure and, and that like,

you know in the early 20s not having a after college job or not being married or not having kids at a certain age and and realizing that oh that was all standards that were pushed on my parents that were then pushed on me and it happens to other people and I think the only I mean the advice I would give young people it'd be like professionally I'd say for your colleges and for everybody don't worry about that

Find what your love is.

Do you love working with your hands?

Is there an apprenticeship out there for you?