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Founder of Wisconsinology Frank Anderson history & the weird side of the state (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Apr 6, 2026
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Dude.
And Greg Bach.
Dude!
Hey, welcome to nightlight ladies and gentlemen Happy Monday.
It is I like to say it's finally Monday because I look forward to being back on the air and talking about the fun cool stuff I get to talk about on a nightly week nightly basis with my co-host Greg Bach who joins me from downstate I am upstate and Dom is in Madison.
It's great to be back on the air with you guys.
How we doing?
I'm doing quite well.
Happy Easter Monday to those who celebrate.
I have to say, I don't know that I've heard that term before, Easter Monday.
It's
not a federal holiday.
I celebrate
Easter.
I went out to brunch yesterday.
I think that means I celebrate Easter.
That just means you went to brunch.
I sure did.
It's not a federal holiday, but it's actually recognized as a day.
Like, so like, if you look at calendars, it will say Easter.
Monday, which to me fits into my question that I asked as a young kid in Catholic school.
You say that he died on Good Friday and rose three days later.
That's Monday, not Sunday.
That's two days later, and I always would get in trouble when I was being totally serious with my question, but now this here Easter Monday makes everything make sense.
It's so funny you say that Greg I used to think that as well and I actually did the math in my head and I thought well if it happened early on Monday, and he arose late on Sunday you could Lawyer ball your way into a three-day Resurrection nope.
No,
thank you.
I like I like consistency.
I like I like consistency
when it comes to resurrections or just in general
Yes
Yes, let's go with that.
Oh, that is great.
I hope everybody had a great Easter if you celebrate.
And if not, I hope you had a great Sunday.
I did mention, I did go to brunch and here's my issue.
Like it
was
lovely.
I went with my parents, my wife and my sister.
Boy, by the second time you go through a brunch line and those tongs or those handles are resting in the food game over.
It's like, I'm not eating that.
It's kind of unsanitary.
Oh, I thought you meant like the temperature of the tongs or something.
I wasn't sure.
No.
Oh, God, I don't care.
People's
grubby
fingers on it, and then now they're in the food.
Come on.
We're
better.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, I'd still just pick it up.
I'd pick up the eggs with my own hand.
I wouldn't even need tongs.
I don't care.
That's worse.
That's the world we're living in, my goodness.
I think you're a
pretty clean guy, Greg.
I'm making
an assumption.
But
I still think that's maybe worse than the
tongs.
It's gross.
It's gross.
We didn't do anything on Sunday.
We had a big, we had a big, very active Saturday.
There was a lot going on Saturday.
We ate our own human weight in a food at a place called House of Gerards.
Gerards.
Gerards.
It's a German, like traditional German restaurant with all the servers are wearing the, you know, the later hose in the garb
and all that
stuff.
And the food is built to fill.
That
is when you find out the difference.
That's the difference when you find out the difference between a six-ounce steak and an eight-ounce steak.
An eight-ounce steak makes you go, oh my god, I'm gonna die.
So what was the occasion?
Were you celebrating your your outstanding night of stand-up comedy Friday and Oshkosh or
no
pre-easter thing or
one?
So it was a celebration of my wife's birthday her birthday is tomorrow and she asked that we do some stuff and we went bowling which is what she wanted to do so we went bowling at a local bowling alley and then we went to dinner at this place and she's originally it was We can go for drinks afterwards and she looked at me about it like like halfway through the minute She goes we're not going out for drinks.
We're going home
We had to just, we had to lay out.
We just, it was, it was absolute.
We were so, so full.
It was great food.
Great time.
We'll go back again, but you like go hungry to places like this house of Gerard Gerards in Kenosha and go hungry.
Good to know.
Yeah.
So I will
say it's fun time.
I will say last, yes, we ate at the buffet yesterday morning and a lot of time went by and we weren't hungry all day because that's
how it
works with buffets and all of a sudden we're starving at like 7 p.m.
Yeah, nothing is open in Christmas City, USA, Marinette, Wisconsin.
So we went to McDonald's and guess what Dom?
Guess what we did not order even though
we were hungry.
Oh, man, you really serve left like right in the face just oh mean Well, you didn't have an arch burger.
You didn't have an arch burger
We did not and my wife looked it on the menu.
She goes that looks gross So she got a fish sandwich, which I don't know how less gross that is but and I got a big Mac But we did not go for the arch burger and it was
right
there I probably won't be back to McDonald's for five months and I still passed up my opportunity
It's still the same amount of whatever.
It's just a smaller portion right taste like, you know, you really don't do don't go getting like all up in your house
and forget how you were raised when you're like, I got a fish fillet instead of a big arch.
Listen,
bikini season is right around the corner.
I
could
see why you go for the fish fillet over the big arch.
Both of us, but anyway.
Hey, we have a great show tonight guys.
And I would like us to introduce the guest Greg.
And then I do want to hear about your standup gig.
Cause I was kind of living vicariously through you.
That's kind of cool that you, you had a standup gig.
I had one
in
February and I don't know how often you do that.
So I do want to hear about it, but
We have a great show tonight.
Dom de Liberto will be here.
He is a climatologist and award-winning science communicator.
Very excited to talk to him about all things weather.
And then my pal, Frank Anderson, and soon to be Greg's pal, will be here in the second hour.
Frank is the founder of Wisconsinology.com, and he can tie anything to our state of Wisconsin.
He is very patriotic when it comes to WI, all caps.
He will be here in the second hour, so that'll be fun.
and coming up tonight.
We didn't get a chance to talk about last week, but the Milwaukee Film Festival is on its way coming up very, very soon.
And this week, the listeners will have their chance to win.
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That's going to be going on from April 16th to the 30th.
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We'll be talking more about that.
We got guests this week from the Film Festival coming.
So yeah, that'll be happening.
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But before we go any further Pete, I feel like we need to ask a very important question.
Do you have a question for the audience for the night?
I do, Dom Lee.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
What is the best TV show theme song?
That's a great one.
What is the best TV show theme song, folks?
Have fun with this tonight.
We all have those songs, the shows we loved growing up, or even now,
What is your favorite?
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So many great ones to choose from.
Um, Dom, have you given that question some thought?
I have,
but I'm going to wait on it.
I do.
I have a
good one.
All right.
Very good.
I
just want to make sure you're ready.
Born right.
Okay.
Uh, so before we get to our three big stories, Greg, how was, uh, the standup?
Did it go well?
Did you crush?
Uh, it was fun.
We had a really good time.
I, you know, I did 15 minutes at a place called Fifth Ward Brewing Company.
My friend, Mattie Field.
He's a really, really, really good buddy of mine.
Excuse me as I hiccup a little.
I'm still I'm still getting over yesterday's or Saturday's dinner.
I barely ate anything yesterday.
By the way, I was so full that I barely ate.
That's that's how much food there
was.
But the show on Friday was really fun.
I did 50 minutes.
I was a feature.
I was the second feature of there was four total comics.
And I think I had a good time.
I had a good time.
I think they had a good time.
They laughed.
I tried some new stuff that I've been wanting to do for a while.
And it was it was a good time.
definitely makes me want to do it more.
It's just finding that right flow and balance within the life and saying like, you know, I'm not going, I'm not going on the road anytime soon.
And I'm not, you know, like, we're going to fly you out to wherever to do some.
No, it's so we'll see what happens.
But it was a good time.
And I did miss it.
And it's nice to be able to know that I can like stand on stage and still be able to do it.
You know, there's always rust there, you know, especially when you go like, I, you know, with my work that I did at the club, I would only do
three or four shows a year.
And
so there was always like a considerable amount of rust.
I always felt like I had, but the room was real warm.
The people were really laid back.
We had a really good time.
So it was, it was fun.
And, and I have some, you know, and of course I didn't record it cause I'm like, I don't want to record.
I don't want to listen back to this one.
And I should have because there was some good stuff in there that I want to reuse for like, and rework whatnot.
So it was good.
We'll see what happens next time if there is a next time.
Glad to hear that
is
fantastic Outstanding well that is that's a new story, but let's get to our other
three big
stories of the day Dom if you please the first big story
Well speaking of happy Easter the president wanted to wish everyone a happy Easter and he did that on his truth social
website by posting the following which I'm going to edit because I don't want to get fined by the Federal Communications Commission Tuesday quote Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran and adding open the effing straight you crazy.
I'm not saying that word or you'll or you'll be living in hell.
All caps, just watch.
Not even like a dot dot dot, by the way, Happy Easter.
It was just that on Easter Sunday.
But by the way, also, quick question for everyone out there.
Do you think that, you know, the army wants him saying what they're doing?
Or maybe in the fact of they don't think he like they don't they're not doing that at all.
They're like, we had no plans on doing that.
We're like, we're just trying to figure out what you guys want.
Next to Pete Hegseth firing all these generals, but that's for another day to talk about but yeah That's what he tweeted on his truth social website very very in the realm of Easter celebrations.
I He might I'm just guessing he's the first president to drop an F-bomb Easter in an address to the
entire country.
Yes.
Yes.
He's break.
He's breaking those records every day.
It's great.
It's
wonderful.
I mean In you know, you just said it was interesting what you just said Greg.
I don't want to break any rules here
or get fined by the FCC.
Well, he's the head of the FCC by default.
He's the one putting this stuff out there.
I mean, it was like, it gave us something to talk about over brunch.
I will say that, but it was a little crazy and a little unhinged.
Oh, a little?
Well, for him, he went on to say he wanted to say that, you know, in another post, because he posts 38,000 times a day.
He said quote rescued the seriously wounded and really brave F 15 crew member slash officer from the deep from deep inside the mountains of Iran Calling operation.
Oh an amazing show of Bravian talent and that's great.
I'm glad that person was rescued That's wonderfully went on then the US military sent dozens of aircrafts armed with the most lethal weapons in the world But his tweets to retrieve them.
He sustained injuries and will be just fine.
Well, you're not a doctor So stop saying that but it's just like
This is a man, by the way, we've never talked about this.
This is a man who doesn't get daily reports.
They show him sizzle reels of what's
going on and they show
him explosions every day.
So he's like a little kid who's like, yay.
So all of this delivered for you on Easter Sunday.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was all kinds of rumors about the president too over the weekend that we're kind of crazy too on social media, speaking of social media, but we've got, we've got more.
News coming up, we've got a couple more big stories we'll get to after this very short break.
We are so glad you're here folks on this Monday.
What is your favorite TV theme show song?
Text us in, text that in and be part of the show.
We've got two great guests, a fun question and lots
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still coming up.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.
Just one more morning.
I had to wake up with the blues.
Welcome back.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.
That is a Dom Lee spin of the tunes and working the board on this Monday night.
Hope you're having a great day and a great evening and I hope we we hope.
Well, we hope we make it even better, folks.
We got Tom Liberto will be here.
He is a...
Deliberto.
Deliberto, I'm sorry.
And he is our first guest tonight.
He is a science communicator and a climatologist award-winning in both areas.
And he'll be here to talk to us about weather.
And then Frank Anderson, our pal from Wisconsinology.com.
Also a documentary filmmaker and commercial director and all things show business.
He'll be here in the second hour.
That'll be fun right now.
We were in the middle of our two, well, two remaining news stories.
The second big story.
All right.
Well, this year's NCAA tournament is about to come to a close.
The championship game for the men is tonight.
Michigan squares off against Arizona.
Michigan's heavily favored.
Also, we need to mention the UCLA Bruins women's basketball team, one of their first ever national championship.
Greg, what do you think about that?
Fantastic.
They beat Tel Carolina, handily 79 to 51 to win their first ever.
That is, I love it.
I love it.
It's their first since they had done that.
UCLA women's basketball has been in existence for 44 years now and their first, first time they get to cut the net.
See, I know what happens.
I know things.
Everyone who beat me up in middle school
for not knowing women's basketball.
That was a tough school.
I, I didn't know they had, I thought they had been around longer than that.
That surprises me that it's just been 44 years.
But this is their first title.
That also surprised me.
And watching their celebration was just so much fun.
Like the highlights, it was so great.
So congrats to the UCLA Bruins.
I'm, I'm sorry to Damah
is fighting a line.
Is that you guys,
you guys are out.
So.
are either of you gonna root for anyone, or are you just gonna watch the game and enjoy like I do when I see baseball teams who don't matter to me?
Tom, go first.
I think
I'm going to root for Michigan.
I think I'm gonna root
for
Michigan.
I've been to Michigan quite a few times.
That's just, that's
what I'm gonna
go for, you know,
also
Big Ten, you know, so.
Yeah.
I don't know, that's what I'm going for.
Pete, what about you?
Typically with you on the Big Ten thing, I just find something irritating about Michigan.
I was really pulling for the Align Eye.
I used to cheer for them before I switched to the Badgers in the early 90s.
I still like the Align Eye and I thought if they would hit half of their free throws or three more three point, they couldn't hit anything.
I felt like that game was theirs for the taking.
So that was frustrating.
But yeah, I guess I think I'm going for Arizona tonight, guys, even though they're like, I think a seven and a half point dog.
Well, I mean, okay, that's all I got.
What about you, Greg?
I just want everyone to have a good time and play their best Very diplomatic.
I'm down for a tie if they can do a tie.
I'm totally in for that as well Good good good good on you guys.
Yeah.
Mmm.
Good job basketball
College
basketball at that too.
Whoo,
that would be about the worst thing ever a tie Yeah,
I don't know how long they would have to play I feel like it's one of those things where they would say like if it like let's say you Well, here's a question so like in
in a hockey and in soccer, they'll do shootouts in games to like settle ties.
And I know there's some rules like with championships, like they'll say, no, just keep going until someone wins.
Is there a rule in basketball?
Does it keep going over times?
Or maybe they say, call it for the night.
We'll meet back tomorrow and keep playing.
Yeah.
I think it goes and goes until someone wins.
So it could be like 14 over times until someone.
And I don't know this 100%.
But I know this a hundred percent.
There's no way there would there would be a tie under any circumstances for this game.
You
heard you heard it here, folks.
Pete.
Come at me.
Making Pete making his assumptions and his he's projecting that cannot be.
It's impossible.
There's no way coming to you straight from Christmastown, USA.
Christmas City, USA.
Go Zona.
Go
Zona.
Go Zona.
All
right.
That sounds like an
Arizona tea line.
Arizona iced tea.
Go Zona.
That would be even better.
if that's what they were named after and beat Michigan.
All right.
It's time for our third big story.
All right.
The third big story.
This has to be you Greg.
It's K Tom, baby.
I mean before you know it There's gonna be statues everywhere around this state Al Malanaro better known as Al from happy days is they have built a statue This has been done and it will be installed in Kenosha by the port We are going to be we're working on getting the the artist on the show to talk about this But here's the thing is I didn't know that Al Malanaro was from Kenosha.
I didn't know he's from Wisconsin You know we that's I mean everyone
I can't shut up about Mark Ruffalo being from Kenosha, but Al Marlonaro, my goodness.
So he will be getting a statue emblazoned onto the property to the city limits of Kenosha celebrating it.
I just love this.
I personally love this.
And I know I'm about to say something wildly unpopular.
I love this more than the bronze bonds.
So I think that that statue is a weird addition to Milwaukee.
I know everyone loves it.
People go to it all the time.
It's a huge.
Tourist thing to a certain extent, I guess, but is a character.
It's like the Rocky thing in
Philadelphia,
you know, and Bill Burr has made that joke.
I'm not going to rip off his joke, but just like, let's get real people some statues.
Like we got the crusher in South Milwaukee.
Amazing.
Yeah, I'm kind of with you.
The fonts thing is fun, but I, but Al Malinero is a real guy really from Wisconsin who played the same character.
Like that's fantastic.
And the fonts thing I love growing up.
I love the fonts.
I've talked about this before on the show like when I was There's so many Italians in my neighborhood in Chicago.
They wouldn't even say did you watch happy days last night?
They would say you see the fonts last night They just love the font so I love the fonts, but you're right He's a fictional character and it might be different if they actually Filmed the show in Milwaukee
in any way shape or form period one like even like a like an inch of film, but no Not at all,
but I love
The El Malonero statue.
Love that he's from Kenosha and they're putting it there and he seems like a great guy.
And the Happy Days theme song could be in the running for an answer from someone for Question of the Night, which is one of your favorite TV show theme song.
That is our Question of the Night.
And
don't
forget, in
the second hour, we're going to be giving you that keyword in our win-your-way into the Milwaukee Film Festival.
So get your device ready.
Get ready for that keyword.
We'll give
that to you in a little while.
Great film festival.
And we are coming back very shortly, folks, after the news with our
Our new friend, a climatologist and award-winning science communicator, Tom DiLiberto.
He will be here.
We're talking all things weather, what better for Wisconsinites.
It's Nightlight with Peach Chihuahua and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.
Great tune.
You like talk talk, Greg?
I do.
I do.
I can't say them the biggest fan, but like songs like this are great.
I mean, it just also has a just, you know, those songs that just like punch you in the gut nostalgia wise for a certain decade, there is those 80 songs that have like what you're just hearing now, those that synth sound.
You're like,
oh,
1983 1987, you're like, middle school, grade school.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
New order.
Love all
that.
Hey, welcome back, folks.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.
I am coming to you live from Christmas City, USA, and Greg is coming to you live.
Downstate, for me, from the world-fabulous K-Town, where the new home of the Al Malanero statue.
Congrats to you guys, Greg.
That's a
big, that's a coup.
Not to be that guy, but I'm in Racine Yeah, but you
live Okay, you live in the suburbs which is K town or is the other way around I don't know we tried
to get that statue here in the
city
But you guys beat us
Wait, what?
How did the, stop it.
Don't try it.
Don't try to crack jokes covering up the fact that you don't know where I'm at.
And also, by the way, I'm just watching my computer melt down in front of my face.
I'm fine here on
the live show folks.
I'm here, but one of my computer screens is like, yeah, we're done working right now.
That just happened with me too.
That happened with me too.
I love technology so, so very much.
We are currently waiting on our guest, Tom DiLiberto right now.
He is a word winning climatologist and weather communicator.
And we'll be, hopefully he'll be joining us in a little bit to talk about the work he does and whatnot.
And yeah, so really quick though, like we were talking about it before Pete, as far as like the standup stuff, you know, you
We're so excited about me doing stand up and I really appreciate that because like, you know I do it so infrequently that I get like very like Should I be doing it?
Like I get very insecure.
I'll be I'll be totally honest with you like all jokes aside if they get very insecure because I'm surrounded by comics who do it like three four times a night or three Well many times a night many times a week a month they tour so I kind of feel like oh should I be doing this and that's all you know in my head but like for you
You you don't do stand-up as much as you used to of course, but you know you still get opportunities What do you feel like when you are like, you know someone says do you want to come do a gig not like a big event to host but like just hey come to this Little theater or come to this bar do you 20 minutes?
I feel nauseous, right?
Really?
I, uh, I just don't do, I did it full time.
It's weird because it seems like it was a much bigger chapter in my life, but I was a full time, a full time standup from like 90 to 97.
When
I
moved to LA, I kind of went up around town a little bit and then I kind of segwayed into writing and I just sort of stopped.
I would do it occasionally, like if a buddy called and said, Hey, come and open
for
me.
I would do that and I would love that because you get to hang out.
But it's been so long since I've done it full time that I do get kind of a pain in my stomach.
I'm just nervous.
I still write jokes down throughout the course of the year because I host this football fundraiser up here in Christmas City.
That whole day, I'm kind of nervous and it's not a fun day.
When I get on stage, it's fine.
Yeah.
And, you know, sometimes I get really good laughs and sometimes I put something out there.
I think it's a great joke that does okay.
And I'm like, that's a better joke.
Oh, it's because you're not really a stand up comic anymore.
You
don't
polish it up and know how to perform it.
So, you know, I don't know.
That's how I felt.
So I was excited for you.
I was like,
yeah,
this is fun because that was a great time in my life.
And I remember, you know, not ever getting nervous.
And I sometimes wonder how I got there.
Even when I would go on TV, I'm like, I'm not really, you know, you're act and that's all you can do.
Yeah, exactly.
And there have been moments of nerves and I think that usually comes with.
the location so if it's a location with a lot of people or I feel like you know like when you're opening for somebody that you really respect and like and and and you know you're the you're you're gonna set the mood if they don't like you that them not liking you might make them not like the person you're opening for so that's how I would get nerves I'd never got nerves like there's so many people like I don't know what like I knew what to do
and
if jokes don't go well I know enough from improv and how to how to do that to make it work
And that's kind of like what it was for me on Friday was the fact that I don't want to say low stakes because, you know, you don't want to be the, you don't, you don't, as, as Mrs. McDonald used to say in, in, uh, in, um, uh, choir, she would say, don't be the poop in our warm frothy milk.
I didn't want to be the poop.
And, um, but my friend said, come do the show, do 15 minutes.
You don't have like your, your sandwich in the middle.
you'll have fun.
No one's like gonna say, Oh, you can't do this anymore.
And that's what I did.
And I had a really good time.
And that was the thing.
Like, we've all seen those comics will go on stage and have a thing of, All right, I'm here.
Let's do some, you know, like, I wasn't, I wasn't apathetic, but I wasn't trying so hard to like, I got to make you guys laugh.
I'm like, I'm up here for 15 minutes.
I'm going to make you laugh.
I know I'll make you laugh.
And some will be better than others.
Let's try this.
And that's what that was a good feeling.
Cause it like I
remembered
that.
Oh, I've been doing this for a while.
So let's actually like, you know, make ourselves useful here and be a part of the show.
And it was a really good time.
Well, it's interesting.
You say that because the only times I would get nervous is if I worked with someone big, who I didn't really know, case in point, Ron White, I worked
with him
before the blue collar comedy tour.
I had a similar joke to him.
He pulls me aside after the show.
And he goes, you got to watch every show.
We have a same joke.
You can't do that joke.
I'm the headliner.
I thought he was a jerk.
And then at the end of the week, we're getting paid.
and he pumped me up in front of the club.
Like he did things exactly the way he should have.
He pulled me aside, didn't embarrass me, but then end
of
the week, he was really cool.
And I'm like, what was I nervous about?
You know, that's so anyway.
Gotcha.
Well,
I loved having that talk and we should talk more stand up later because right now we are welcoming our guest climatologist and science communicator, Tom DeLiberto, to the show.
Good afternoon evening.
Tom, how are you?
Good how you guys doing
much better now that you're here.
We love
having you This is gonna
be fun.
We're big fans of yours just from doing our research.
So it's
great to
have you here.
Thanks for
being
here.
Yeah, absolutely So really quick, you know climatologist and science communicator Start there like we know what climatologists are but like what is your like?
What do you do as a science communicator that like goes along with climatologist?
Tom are you
there?
Yeah, sure.
I always say that I really I want to become a scientist and then Yeah, I was I was becoming a scientist and I realized I like talking about it more than doing it so I ended up kind of shifting more into Science communication so my job on the media director now of a nonprofit called climate central whose job is basically to help communicate all that's going on climate wise on our planet and
It's it's it's been fun.
Basically.
I'm trying to think of ways of communicating a really complex topic so that people can understand it So in the end people can make the best decisions they can with the best information
Great.
Yeah, that was a great answer.
I still have a question though like with what you do What is your typical day like when it comes to weather?
You've got so much education You've got so many titles you wake up you go to work.
What does work like for you on a day-to-day basis and
And what is the most exciting thing about your job?
Like, what's the part of your day you can't wait to get to when it comes to weather?
Yeah, so like it gets back to the beginning of why I got into this field to start.
Like I've wanted to be a meteorologist, climate person since I was like eight or nine years old.
I was always like super interested in the weather.
I always wanted to be that kid in elementary school that was able to tell the rest of the class when there was going to be a snow day.
or snowstorm would pop up.
So like, and that's never changed.
So every day I'm just kind of waking up and seeing what's going on weather wise across the world, across the United States.
But my day to day, it's there's always something going on somewhere.
It's there's always some extreme occurring.
There's always something that needs to be explained.
So normally when I wake up, I'll take a look at what's going on not only across the United States, but across the entire world.
And I have these other kind of projects where
trying to figure out the best ways of communicating these really huge planetary style things in a way that like is understandable to someone.
who may not ever see or experience that in their own home.
So it's neat because every day it's something new, every week it's something new.
And I'm also a big fan of not knowing what's gonna happen next.
So there's no better business to be in when it comes to weather.
And then talking about the climate too, because there's always some aspect of not really knowing what your day is gonna look like.
So it's just kind of embracing the
uncertainty.
Climate versus weather and talking about like one of its climate change was never the easiest topic to discuss But I feel like in the past couple years, it's been even more difficult.
How do you approach?
shifting attitudes or like maybe The questions you get as far as like explain explain this to me and like, you know As you say make it bite-size make it understandable while not trying to change people's minds But like under making them understand this is the world we live in and then and no matter
who you vote for or what you believe, the weather is weather, climate is climate, and this is how we need to approach the topic.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, first thing I always say is I would be very happy if people put me out of a job and stop climate change, by all means.
That's cool, whatever.
I'll take one for the global team if that's the situation.
You're a sport.
Yeah, I'm a good sport, you know?
And like the one thing I always, you know, as someone who's managed
at times government climate accounts like social media accounts for the government and have had to deal with people yelling me.
One thing I learned early on and statistics have been the surveys have proven this that the people who are truly dismissive of climate change is like nine or 10% and that's held steady for like over a decade now.
The thing is that nine or 10% they're so loud.
They're so unbelievably loud.
So I try not to like overly worry that like I'm gonna get.
That I'm gonna convince their mind like change their mind and the one thing I usually go into at the end of this conversation I hope the person whether they agree with me or not sees me as a human being And could imagine themselves talking with me about some other topic besides climate change like we could talk about literally anything they want and like that's a success for me and Because in the end, you know, I can only do so much it's of the people themselves to be able to change their own views but
I'm always very clear like I'm not in this for I always joke I'm really good at math if I wanted to make more money I would do something besides this um so it's you know it's purely out of a love of the atmosphere and just being
Scared of what the outcomes are that I'm just trying to say this if there's no ulterior motives here.
I'm not making any extra money off
of it Right.
Oh, that's a great answer
Wait, you're not being paid by the but you're not being paid by the intelligentsia billions of dollars to tell us about climate change.
What oh if I am they're putting up a direct deposit
in an account I
don't We have about a minute and a half to where we have to do a very short break, but I wanted to get this question when it comes to climate change
or weather, what do you make of this idea or prediction that states like Minnesota or Michigan and Wisconsin are going to become destinations in the next 20 or 30 years because of our water and maybe some global warming, hopefully?
Will we be able to shake that rust belt
rep?
some truth to that so like if you take a look at the United States as a whole and you say okay what states are probably going to see the biggest impacts that's going to make it really really hard to live you say like where are the warmest places and the places that have difficulty accessing water which also tend to be a lot of those places this may be really really hard to live and they say like well the uh the further north you go that's the fastest warming place on the planet so you go too far north it's it's
too much of a shock.
So there's like this sweet spot in the middle where the effects will still be but not as bad if you have access to it.
So a place that always gets brought up is right.
It was constant Minnesota, sometimes upstate New York kind of gets brought up.
Places that get a lot of water regardless.
They might get more of it so there might be issues there.
There might be more invasive species but
they'll still be water.
Um, and it won't be a bajillion degrees every summer, making it impossible to go outside.
All right.
Let's pick up there.
I'm unbelievably hot as Southeast and Southwest.
Let's pick up right there.
When we come back after the short break, our guest is Tom DiLiberto.
He is a weather.
I'm just going to call you a weather expert, especially compared to me and Greg.
We're coming right back.
This is nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the civic media network.
Welcome back tonight, light folks.
I am Pete Schwabba, sitting just upstate along the lake as it were from Greg Bach, who is in Racine at Radio Park.
Our guest is
Tom DeLiberto.
He is a very decorated weatherologist.
I'm making up words now, Tom.
He's a climatologist and award-winning science communicator who also used to work for, he did in the Office of Communication at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Tom, I have kind of a, I just want to say I was looking up your profile on LinkedIn earlier and this kind of cracked me up.
I was reading your titles.
host of NOAA's Climate Alive program, winner of the National Science Communication Competition, declared America's first scientist idol.
And then it was improv comedian.
What?
I was like, what on earth is that?
Please tell us, where did you study?
How does it become part of your job?
And maybe you could segue into this cool thing, the show you have.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I've always wanted to do improv comedy and I, you know, was getting older and I found myself giving lots of talks on climate change and these sorts of things and I live in Washington DC and I
now perform with the Washington improv theater here.
I'm on a couple of house teams there, including one team I created, which is a, I feel like this might be only true in Washington DC.
And if not, that's cool.
I'm still going to pretend like it's the only one.
I have a science-based comedy improv team called the Hypothesis made up of just scientists and people who work in the science field.
And we just kind of like invite scientists and people to give talks on science.
and then we make comedy out of it.
And like, yeah, and I found it being, it's incredibly helpful to me because it makes me much more of an active listener when I'm like trying to come up with an idea.
It
makes
me work better with teams and brainstorming things.
Also, it makes it so I don't take myself too seriously.
And I feel like that also helps to when trying to come up with ideas and ways of communicating things, but also makes me quite a weird person in the science.
It's probably not that many of
me
that have that sort of background.
There should be
more.
I think there are more.
They just need to trust themselves and get out
there.
I think that I'm personally I feel like everyone everyone regardless you should everyone should take an improv class I think it helps you with personal confidence.
I think it helps you with interaction I think helps with a lot of things and I know a lot of individuals who've taken improv classes to help with their Non-comedy jobs, and it's it's great and plus it lets you reach out to a community a lot Let's you find found family.
I think that's I think that's absolutely wonderful and another thing that you did that you know brought
you know, an explanation to very complex topics is you made a cartoon regarding climatology and climate and the weather and whatnot.
Tell us more about Tik and Tom.
Yeah, I somehow convinced Noah where I used to work.
This isn't the previous administration.
Yeah.
I convinced them to let me make a cartoon.
It's for fourth to sixth graders about how basically the weather and climate happens on planet Earth and why we should care about it.
It's called Teek and Tom.
I'm the Tom.
Teek is basically an alien student who comes to Earth on a school assignment about learning about the atmosphere of a planet.
And Teek chose Earth.
and then obviously when you come to earth you have to talk to somebody about from know about the atmosphere and I'm the person
um
so it's
It's it's probably the most rewarding experience of my life and I now it's great because now there's a cartoon version of me that will never age And it's also been a lot of fun like playing it for kids I have myself so watching them enjoy seeing their dad Turn into a cartoon character and get slimed in one of the episodes, but no more spoilers
Well,
now I'm not watching it.
No, that's
fantastic.
I love that.
I
love that
so much.
Um, one of the things that's said in your bio too, is that you tell people how to stay optimistic about unpredictable forecasts and seasons.
Uh, this particular winter here in Wisconsin, I found a little depressing because we would have snow all the time that wasn't forecasted.
And even if it's just an inch or two, it felt like I was wiping my car off in the morning, three weeks in a row.
How do you tell people to stay optimistic about weather?
And I love that that that's part of how you describe yourself Knowing that
yeah, I think there is There's a lot of
Beauty in just like how complicated the world can be Outside and just like to witness it.
I feel like sometimes we get caught within ourselves a lot and like there's a lot going on and I've always found incredibly calming to sometimes just be outside just watch the clouds roll in and The other thing I always say that makes me like super optimistic about like
even when times are tough is that in my career, especially in the weather world, even when there's really horrible disasters or really depressing weather, it's amazing how people in communities pick each other up.
during those times, whether it's after like a tornado outbreak or after a snowstorm helping people shuffle.
And I always like that community aspect of weather.
So it's interesting how weather tends to bring people together.
And I feel like optimism is born out of that, that kind of feeling of community and bringing people together.
And weather is always one of those things.
If you don't know what to talk about with someone, you can always talk about the weather.
And that's one topic that's true no matter.
where you grew up, where you live, or anything like that.
Great.
I mean, yeah, if you want to kill...
15 minutes to like three hours in Wisconsin.
You can always talk about the weather and we'll, we'll, we'll fancy ourselves, you know, meteorologists and our own.
It's like, well, you know, it's, it's rainy today, but I hear it's supposed to be doing this.
And then, but you never know, cause it can be snowing and make, cause that's just how it works in Wisconsin.
It just seems like the old adages, if you don't like the weather, wait 15 minutes, it'll change.
But, uh, we definitely would love to have you back, Tom, to have, and have further conversations about this.
It was a lot we weren't able to get to today, but please come back.
Our guest this evening has been climatologists and science communicator as well.
the media director of Climate Central.
That will all be in our show notes so people can check it out.
Tom DeLiberto is our guest this evening.
Thank you so much, Tom, for being here.
We appreciate your time.
Thanks for having me.
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OK, question.
Question.
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OK, I have a question.
Questions.
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Go ahead.
I say the question of the night is what is your favorite TV theme song?
You can text that in along with the keyword for the when you're way into the Milwaukee Film Festival.
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A lot of responses to this one, my friends.
Oh my goodness gracious.
The
people love their color TV, Greg, and they love their theme songs as do I. Mine was, do you remember the show?
It was a Norman Lear show called Good Times.
It was on the
70s.
Set at the Cabrini Green Housing Project in Chicago, and it was launched the career of Jimmy Walker, John Amos was on it, Esther Roll, and Thelma was the sister who I always had a crush on, but great
music.
And a very, very
young Janet Jackson.
Yes, great point.
Yes, Janet Jackson.
And do we have a do we have a couple a few seconds of that we can hear Dom the back end when the credits are playing is my favorite
part of the
song.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
All right.
I think that was the song here it is here it is right here.
Oh, yeah, it's right.
I forgot We're going to church
Just
love it.
Thank you for indulging me down So that's mine Greg.
I know you have a great one too that was probably in my top ten as well
Uh, yeah, for me, I mean, there are a lot of great theme songs and I saw them coming through, uh, through the text line and through the, the social media and we will get to all of those in just a moment.
But for me, there is no greater theme song than to the TV show taxi.
Uh, at one, because it's, it's real funky, but it's also incredibly mellow because when you, I remember as a kid, and this, this is a very weird thought for me to have as a kid, but like.
It was a comedy.
It was a three-camera comedy on network television.
It was wildly popular It had a lot of laughs had some drama and they had some feelings of course But the theme song for a three-camera comedy on network television I don't know if I've ever heard a more depressing theme song because and people will say what about match I have I love mash and I love the theme song, but I think
for what they discussed and the music that goes hand in hand.
But the theme song to taxi just always seems so dour versus what
the
show is actually about.
Dom, can you play that intro, please?
I get goosebumps to this day when I hear it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because listen to that.
Come on now.
Wow.
It's so complimentary
though, I hear you saying, but it works.
Cause like to me, and it's weird, again, as a kid, I'm like, oh, well, this is how they feel when they're driving taxis in New York.
They're like, you know, they're being funny on the air, but man, the taxi, the life of a taxi driver in New York has to be hard.
And to me, that song perfectly encapsulates their feelings.
Very
weird, very weird thoughts to be having as like a nine year old.
So, Dom, what about you?
Ooh, I gotta go with... I gotta go with friends.
I watched a lot of friends with my mom, and it was the, yeah, I'll be there for you.
I also have that as well.
Rembrandt's.
There you go.
Let's hear it.
The thing that's interesting about the Friends theme song and...
And cheers has the same thing too is these are songs that you could hear on the radio and it was always kind of off putting to hear them go into the sections they didn't play.
So like when you listen to the cheers themes, the cheers theme song is dark.
Like it's not the most uplifting music to listen to.
But also it's just that thing of like, oh, this is actually a single.
This is a tune you could buy on like you could buy a record for this song versus like, you know that.
the taxi themes.
No one was really playing on the radio back in the seventies.
We had a guest, Rob Paravoni, a very funny comedian who broke down the friends theme and did a parody of it.
And the first
Uh, what do you call it, the verse of the
song?
It says, nobody, well no one told you there'd be days like this.
In the second verse, it's, your mother warned you there'd be days like this.
And he just wrote a funny, but it's, it's, it's true.
You don't ever hear the second verse.
Cause I love the Cheers theme song too.
And it's like, yeah, it is kind of down, but it's like, well, at least I can go here.
Everybody loves
me.
And people definitely spoke out on the Facebook page.
They spoke out on, you know, I post this on my personal page too.
And people really, they have, they have thoughts.
Nikki listening said cheers.
And Futurama is great.
Mary went on to say Threes Company or
or the A team.
And she says, come at me, bro.
I'm not trying to challenge you.
It's just fine.
It's your opinion.
But yeah, threes company, the A team, the A team is great when you're like 12 years old and a little, like a little kid, you're like, yeah, I'm going to go like storm the castle or something like that.
But, um, friend of friend of civic media, Joe McLeer says, uh, perfect strangers or Baywatch.
Okay.
Perfect strangers.
Nice poll.
Jeremy says airwolf theme.
I remember as a kid that that theme song just like lit me up because it's so like intense and like, oh, I wish I could fly a helicopter.
I know Billy Dave armchair says Scooby-Doo Trent says Moesha.
Yes.
Moesha.
Definitely a very, very good theme song.
What do you got over there?
Let's start with the text line that I'll move to our own personal Facebook comments.
We'll do our best to get some through it.
through some of these, but Brett in Brown Deer says, love the bass rift in the theme song from Barney Miller.
That's
that one is in that song is in top five for me for theme songs as well.
That like, you know, if you can find Barney Miller and you got to play from the beginning because again, it's another one of those 70s shows where it's just real funky, real
funky.
Chris from Sun Prairie says, cheers by far, where everybody knows your name, makes me want to belly up to the bar every time.
No argument there.
Monica from Mount Horrib says, I say Scooby-Doo, my sister says Green Acres.
Okay, those are both great.
Those are great.
Those are wonderful.
Tyler from Wisconsin Rapid says, on a day like today, do boldly go where no man has gone before.
You know what that is, right?
Of course a Star Trek.
If I didn't
know that my mother would disown me.
One of our favorite and most frequent texters Tony the trucker says gentlemen the theme song from law and order That
guitar It sounds like that's that just that just that little Bend on pitch on that string sounds like the streets of New York like yeah, yeah, it's been a hard day
But
you know that Greg Barney Miller and taxi all encapsulate.
I feel like have a very New York feel.
So I think those
all work.
Those are great.
Joel from the 608 Madison says, okay, so let me get this.
Okay.
Let's stick to our TV themes for now.
Then we'll get back to John's text.
Cindy also says, did you vote yet?
Okay.
Then we got a whole bunch of a contest.
Bonanza.
Tom from Hartford, Greg says, Bonanza.
There you go.
That's
a good one.
That's
a great
one.
Uh, really quick Cindy from Appleton.
I did not vote.
I'll vote tomorrow and shows as you don't know, the DMV is staying open late today
and
tomorrow in case you need to get your ID.
So please visit the DMV website about that.
We'll put that in our show notes as well.
If you need an ID, DMV is staying open later today and tomorrow because tomorrow is election day here in Wisconsin.
I will be voting on the day of so what else did we, do
we have
anybody else on the text line?
Yeah, we got Tom again in Hartford says Mary Tyler more.
That is an outstanding one as well.
That's a great one.
Yeah, love it.
Absolutely.
He says Wild Wild West another one ran from Madison the Avengers from the 1960s.
There you
go.
Dave says another one for Barney Miller and all in the family loved all in the family.
Let's
go ahead while we're doing that.
Let's play that Barney Miller theme song real quick.
Yeah.
I mean, come on that bass.
Wow.
It just hits you like oh
Yeah, I don't think but wait for it wait for it.
Oh It's a little bit longer than I thought nevermind cuz there's a big break down.
Okay.
Yeah, that's fine Yeah, that song in of itself is like all right.
Let's play the let's jam on the Barney Miller theme song key of G. There you go
We've got two more text line texts.
Jackie from the 414 says Big Bang Theory and Cortland from the 608 says theme song from King of Queens.
That's a good one too.
That
Big Bang Theory one, that's my mom.
She was texting
in.
Oh
nice.
Let's see here.
Where do we leave out?
Oh, Jeff DeLeon, getting all British here, the theme song from Snuffbox.
That's a very good theme song written by the guy who's in the, Matt Berry, who's on the show, What We Do in the Shadows.
Melissa says Fragile Rock, which is also great.
got another one, the baseline from Barney Miller.
This is John, our buddy John Adler, very good friend of mine, radio legend in Milwaukee baseline from Barney Miller.
And the theme to Portlandia, the theme to Portlandia is haunting, haunting.
It's just that like, and then when the bridge is closing on, Oh my gosh, it's good gravy.
We don't have time to go through all of them.
We'll get to more of the texts as we go through the show, but please feel free to drop more information on us.
Let us know your favorite theme song.
The
The keyword for the text to win contest are when your way into the Milwaukee Film Festival is going on right now this hour.
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from Shiloh
the men
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that
and
Yeah, that is significant, folks, because that is the favorite theme song from a TV show of our next guest.
You know him as the founder of Wisconsinology.com, a great website that's all things Wisconsin history, weird.
Cool, fun facts, famous people from here.
Definitely check it out.
He's also a showbiz Renaissance man and a director of films, commercials, and an outstanding musician.
He joins us now.
Is he so often does here at Nightlight over the stream?
Hello, Frank Anderson.
How are you, buddy?
Wonderful.
Absolutely wonderful.
Dig this.
Okay.
All right.
You're watching
on the stream.
What do that?
Is that it?
Is that supposed to be Anthony Barnett?
It
looks like
Anthony.
It looks like Anthony Bourdain to me.
It's Dave Dudley, king of truck driving music.
Ah, Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
There
it is.
That is a
great.
Look at, look at how you framed that even Frank.
That
is awesome.
I was going to say, like, uh, that's awesome.
That, oh man, is that,
is
that for, is that for sale?
Cause I would buy that.
No, it's the only painting of mine I've kept.
Ah, darn it.
We,
Do you
like,
do you like Dale Watson then?
If you like trucker music.
I only like him if they're from Wisconsin.
Okay.
Well, he's been to Wisconsin and he likes Wisconsin.
I can say that.
I know
that.
I've met him, but it doesn't count.
Not good enough.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Noted.
I'll write that down.
Got it.
All right.
That's excellent.
We have Frank.
Your Chiron says on the stream, if you guys are watching on Facebook.
YouTube or ex Twitter.
It says, hater of lanyards.
Maybe we should, before we bring your son on quick, if you could just give us a thing, a little bit of behind the scenes as to where that started.
I hate lanyards.
Okay.
Okay.
I've followed, my films have been at Sundance, South by Southwest.
I've played the biggest stages in the smallest.
I hate lanyards because everyone who wears them gets all of a sudden like Superman.
You're, you're turned into, oh,
You're one of them.
I'm on this side of the line.
You're a peon.
I'm special.
It's a class thing.
Whoa.
It is.
That was
scary, Greg.
And I always give my lanyard to I had like a 500 buck lanyard itself by Southwest.
I gave it to a homeless guy.
He was really nice.
What do you mean?
He wanted.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
Uh, maybe, maybe, you don't know if he was home.
He could just been a guy in a band.
It's Austin.
You never know.
He had never had an idea when it comes to that.
Uh, I was expecting it to be the thing of like, I just, you know, for, you know, I've worn a bunch of lanyards in my day and age too.
And there's somewhere in a box somewhere.
I feel like I should keep them, but I'm probably gonna throw them out one day.
But I really liked the idea that it's a class thing for you.
That's amazing.
Very well said yeah,
but I've seen people change once they put it on
yeah,
oh
I did a show once where It said the the absolute worst thing to do for a band or for comedians that put the didn't put comedian didn't put performer it put talent These guys these guys who still ask their mom for rent money and their talent all of a sudden please
Hey, my mom just likes to help out whenever it's convenient.
Sometimes she has some extra walking around money.
Frank Anderson is our guest.
Frank, your son Oliver is with you.
And I have to tell you, I found this on Facebook, this Frog Night thing that you posted.
And I understand we attribute that to your son Oliver, who
is with you.
We would love some explanation there because it's a really cool thing.
Well, he's been interested.
He's a filmmaker, too He did the the beautiful dramatic background visuals for the Foo Fighters last tour.
Oh, wow
and When he's not doing that kind of thing or filmmaking in general his great interest is for a natural the natural world.
Yeah,
and there is no thing like frog night anywhere where in real time you can
uh, uh, track the, the, uh, emergence of frogs across, uh, all the different kinds across Wisconsin.
So my
mind is
blown.
My mind is, my mind is blown right now.
This is amazing.
So what does that mean?
Yeah.
Do you want
to
talk to Oliver?
Do we
have time?
Do we have
time?
I don't want to interrupt
him.
Yeah, we've got two minutes, or we could bring Oliver on after the break, Frank, after the news.
Okay, we'll bring him on after the news.
Let's do that,
yeah.
The site was so cool in your post, and I let the frog stuff play all day, and it took me back to a time when we moved back to Wisconsin.
It was around 2012, and we lived right by the water, and we heard the frogs mating at the beginning of spring, and they just went, and it's so loud.
And I had a sound machine that I'd play at night, sometimes frog sounds.
And my daughter, I put her to bed and I left the doors open and she heard all the real frogs and she goes,
Yeah, that's kind of creepy.
Can we just put the machine on fake frog noises, but it's really
soothing.
And yeah, I loved it.
So that's wonderful.
Really quick before we do go to a break, we do have a question on the text line.
Tom from Hartford listening on WMDX.
He says, hello, Frank Anderson.
What can you tell us about Dundee, Wisconsin?
I have heard it is the UFO capital of Wisconsin.
They like to think so, but so does Tom.
It might, it may be, it may be, but there's dozens of competitors who have it, you know, when you're entering town, the UFO capital of Wisconsin goes by Belmont.
Oh my gosh, it's endless.
But yeah, I mean, I hope they are.
I hope, I hope Tom nails it and they have a nice landing there.
You know,
I
knew when they show up,
when they show up, we'll give them lanyards that say visitor.
Oh man, that's fantastic.
I love that.
Uh, folks, don't go anywhere.
We're going to take a very, we're going to take a little bit of longer break.
Now we got news coming up, but when you, when we come back, we're going to talk.
to Frank's son about frogs.
And you also want to text in that word seat, SEAT, if you would like to win a pair of tickets to go to the Milwaukee Film Festival that is starting next week.
So don't go anywhere.
You are listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach here on the Civic Meeting Network.
Stay tuned.
Stay close.
That's in
my top five.
I
love
that song and then you got Mary Tyler Moore looking so amazing and cool
This is Nightlight Folks.
I'm Pete Schwab.
I'm sitting upstate from Greg Bach, who is coming to us from Radio Park in Racine and Dom Lee, working the board in Madison.
This is exciting, folks.
We have a bonus guest, Frank Anderson, the creator of Wisconsinology.com, and who I like to call a showbiz Renaissance Man is our guest.
And we are about to talk to Frank's son, Oliver, who created
Well, I'm not sure if I say a website or we're just going to get into it because it deals with frogs and frogs are amazing.
And Oliver also has a movie coming up, too, that we can maybe dabble in a little bit.
But he joins us now from the home of your dad, Oliver.
Is that where you are?
Yeah, I'm visiting over
here.
How are you guys
doing?
Good.
How are you?
You and I met briefly when
your dad had an
office over at the that was in an old monastery in Appleton or something.
Oh, yeah, the refuge.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was like a million years ago.
Yeah.
Well, all right.
So I found this, your dad posted this on his Facebook page, the frog site, and you have this guide to finding frogs.
Can you tell it?
I don't want to.
I'll probably
just
ruin it.
So can you tell us what it is?
Um, frog night is it's like still in beta or slowly rolling it out this week.
But um,
Wisconsin has the longest running civilian science project monitoring frog choruses in the United States.
I believe it started in 1981.
It's called the Wisconsin Frog and Toad Survey.
So for 40 some years people have been going out to predetermined routes by the DNR sets up and on certain dates listening and then recording frog calls and recording temperature.
So I got all that data a few months ago and I've wanted to do this for years.
And I kind of like just like rush to get this out and spend the last three months like Hacking together this app.
That's a website.
That's kind of like an art project to where you can enter Your location and it pulls open weather data from an API and then runs that past like the median Calling temperature for each frog species in Wisconsin per your location
So you can get a forecast for a frog night, which is, I just found out on the East coast, they call these big nights.
There's a lot of nonprofits that do big night, like celebrations where when they forecast that salamanders frogs and turtles will be crossing the road on the first warm rainy night of the year, volunteers will go out and help them not get hit by cars.
But I'm calling it frog night in Wisconsin and we have a website and it's kind of like a, it's geared towards kids, but it's like a very like kind of artistic experience.
Growing up, I loved finding like old books.
frogs and toads from like 100 years ago and libraries.
Those are all like gone now, but I found on the internet like scans of books from like 1906 that we use graphics from.
So it kind of has this like a like vintage feel to it and a lot of the sounds on the site I recorded.
Yeah, and there's a lot of good information on it and we're working with the DNR to try to like funnel people to get involved with doing participating in the Wisconsin Frog and Toad Survey.
I would love to have a question right now, but I'm speechless at this.
And I think it's amazing too, because it's just that idea, like, you know, you answered the question I wanted to ask, which is, you know, how did you get into this?
But I mean, really, yeah, it comes from childhood, being fascinated with nature and bugs and creepy crawlies
and
animals and all that stuff.
And like, I mean,
It'd be one thing just to say like, Hey, I did a thing about frogs, but you get so specific and you're trying to do a good thing with it as far as like both with the state.
This is fantastic.
I love that.
When will people, I mean, you said it's in beta.
You can go to frog night.com.
I can't guarantee it's going to work perfectly on a phone, but like if you're a computer or an iPad, it works pretty great.
Um, turn your audio on, make sure audio is loud when it starts up.
Some browsers like block that on boot up.
It
is
like a stock experience.
Um,
Again, it's geared towards kids.
There's a field guide that's super interactive.
You can drag photos around.
There's a feature where you can draw animated lines and turn them on and off.
You can save those as screenshots to your computer.
There is a quiz where you can learn fraud calls.
by ear and then match them and I'm planning on rolling out more features as like the years go on with this and just kind of like building up this like full educational suite and hopefully bringing it to other states because right now we're only Wisconsin specific.
There's also a map atlas where you can look at you can like find nature centers on it you can look at bodies of water on it if you see them enough and it's also linked to iNaturalist API where people have reported
verified sightings of different frog species throughout the state so that you can turn on and off layers that will show you where species have occurred.
There's also the DNR's range map.
You can overlay for each species by county.
A lot of information in it and then you can also explore the frog and toad survey data and compare years and look at like population increases or decreases per year or decade.
So there's a lot
there.
I've had the, I was telling your dad, I've had the frog ambience sound on all day, but you've got survey routes, nature centers, counties, greatly.
I mean, this is, I've never seen anything like this.
It's really cool and very kind of niche.
Maybe I don't know, but
I wish people, I think people like people either hate frogs or love frogs.
And for me, it's like, um,
like hearing their hearing their courses is like just an amazing thing and I've been taking I've been doing I've been going on listening to them in the spring forever but uh the last maybe 10 years since I was at the refuge just about 10 years ago um I've been going out and taking friends out and their kids and like
a head
vocation will go to and on the first warm it's really just the first warm rainy night of the year it's usually around April 14th
There's certain species that call earlier than that, like wood frogs are kind of explosive breeders.
Well, they'll breed like on one really warm day, often
in late
March, and then they'll be done.
Spring Peepers call through May.
There's chorus frogs calling now, we heard calling yesterday, but like on a warm rainy night, drive slow in the country, keep your windows down, and you'll hear the calls like,
in the distance like this eerie and then just kind of you know drive closer and closer to it and if you get lucky you'll find them crossing the road be careful um and it's just i don't know it's a great experience to go out and stand next to one of these uh reading courses and it's like a sound bat that's filled your body and it's like the end of winter it's all right it's gone and we're purge the depression from my body i'm not going to be cold again for a while you know
Your dad told us in the previous segment, you know, the work you do with the food fighters, you're a filmmaker and like you're an artist.
Like what I'm hearing is as you are an artist, do you just absolutely blow people's minds when like the topic comes up and you just launch into frog knowledge?
Cause I would feel like I'd be sitting there going.
yeah honestly that's like a weird thing like i hate talking about my like my visual work i do a lot of concert graphics yeah like i'm not really emotionally connected to it
yeah
but like
it's a paycheck
i can i actually love the frog thing so i'll just be like yeah
listen listen
it's like something that's kind of esoteric but like you know everyone has a cottage or finds finds it you know like a tree frog on their window or something and like wonders about it because it's like a special visitor you
know
I just love the idea.
Someone's like, Oh, you've met Dave girl.
And he's like, yeah, it's fine.
But, but the frogs here, we got to
talk.
I never met Dave girl, but I have huge.
I have like, uh, I did animation for the boot fighters or yeah, I cut.
Um, logs in stop motion, moving towards a camera with a chop saw, one cut
at a time until
the entire log was gone.
And that's was playing behind him for two years.
That was pretty sexy.
I've got a video of him with like fireworks going off with my animation.
But that is
what we're talking about.
The important things now.
Frogs.
That's what
we're talking about.
The little things.
Yeah.
Oliver Anderson, uh, check out frog night.com.
Um, before we bring your dad back, did you have a movie?
It was just.
Yeah,
some
of some sort of your dad said you had a movie coming
out I'm also Documentarian and I've been working on a film called the Natatorium and the Six Dolphins of John Jay garlic for about three years now, which is a Documentary about a restaurant that was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in the early 1980s late 70s called the public editorial which was in an old bat house that this
a couple of garlics purchased and turned it into a late 70s cocaine restaurant emporium with live dolphins inside of it.
And they went through six dolphins total and it went bankrupt in 1985 and a dolphin was abandoned in the middle of the winter.
And it was crazier from there.
They had real lion meat on the menu and hippopotamus.
And I've even got 45 people who have told me stories.
So if you know...
Are you work there?
Or you know somebody who worked there?
Or you have a story?
Yeah.
Find me.
Please come back when
it's done and tell us about it or where we can see it.
That sounds fantastic.
I feel like no conversation saying you want to open a dolphin restaurant can not have the following sound.
on it, you know, you
kind of only does, you know, how
do you get alone for that?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Oliver, I hope you don't hate lanyards as much as your dad.
I still don't
quit.
Every day's talking about lanyards.
Oh, that's so great.
Well, thank you for for
popping on.
Come back again when
we can
just keep the focus on you and, you know,
Not so be so Frank heavy and a little more.
I want to point the net touring gets a little further along.
Yeah,
please.
Thank you so much.
Oliver Anderson.
We'll have a Frank back on here.
And I've, I've got a question for our pal Frank Anderson who joins us again.
Oh, where'd the godlike come from?
I was going to say, you've got the sun blingin' down.
It was like an
angel.
Frank, the angel, Angison.
There
we go.
Yeah, that's it.
So it's always sunny in Appleton, as far as Frank.
Frank, I have to ask you, we've got about three and a half minutes left.
And thank you for having Oliver on.
That was really fun.
But you said a song from the movie Sinners, which I thought was amazing.
was recorded in Grafton.
Can you tell us about
that?
Oh, sure.
So all the greatest blues, original blues recordings ever were recorded in Grafton, Wisconsin for Paramount Records.
And we're talking the most sublime, amazing music, Jack White, who compiled it all into a box set.
said the greatest music ever recorded in American history, the font of every musical style thereafter, was recorded in Grafton, Wisconsin.
Wow.
I feel like Jack White can be as much like Michigan, Detroit, and I mean, Nashville, but like he has such a close
connection with Wisconsin.
I
know people who know him.
He loves Milwaukee.
There's a club there called the Cactus Club, and they were looking
to
build an ADA ramp there because they needed it.
The new owner was like, we need to have this for our patrons who need this.
And he just said, who to make the check out to?
Just wrote the check
and paid for it.
I mean,
he loves this state.
He loves Milwaukee.
That doesn't surprise me at all that he would say something like that.
The proudest I've recorded
many labels.
Yeah, the proudest moment of my life was recording for third man records.
Oh,
that's so
cool.
Now you guys are going to hit it off.
I knew a beautiful thing.
Pete said Pete said that you played the steel guitar.
Now I had a question and he is it the lap steel or the pedal steel?
I play both and they are different.
Yes, they are nervous.
And the pedal seals the greatest music I love.
Can I plug myself?
Can I do it?
Yes.
This is not a shameless plug.
It's a shameful plug.
There
you
go.
And I'll be at the Gibson Grill downtown Gibson Music Hall.
I called it.
It's 20 years ago named the Gibson Music Hall downtown Appleton, April 16th.
One man, Wisconsin stories and steel guitars.
What
day is the 16th?
I'm going to have the opening act, which I like.
Yeah, less pressure.
When is that, Frank?
April 16th.
I'm
like, have it wrong.
Oh, I have it wrong.
But you just have to keep some calendar.
All right.
Frank is a great follow on Facebook.
Go to Facebook and enjoy his post, but also get more information on this too.
That's outstanding.
I was going to say the pedal steel guitar is something I've always wanted to learn how to play.
But unfortunately, even the cheapest pedal steel is like $3,500.
It's insane.
They're insane.
It's absolutely insane
too.
When I was a kid, they were like $300 for the starter thing.
Now they're
2,200, 2,500, maybe 20, maybe 1,500.
It's like don't enter this door.
It's like the lanyards.
Yeah.
Hey buddy, we'll do this again soon.
And I want more information on that, but we'll have you back and we can jump into more Wisconsin stuff.
Cause I know you can tie everything to Wisconsin, buddy.
It's Frank Anderson.
Go to Wisconsinology.com.
Follow him on Facebook.
We are coming right back after this for the nightcap.
It's Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on
nightlight.
Good bye!
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And the, wow.
Pete, Kirsten
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Kirsten is very busy.
Because the Wisconsin Film Festival starts April 9th, Thursday.
I'll be down there.
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We did have a question of the night, which was, what is your favorite TV theme song?
We're going to get to some more of your responses.
in just a moment, but I want to address something, Pete.
Yeah.
I want to address a question from someone on the text line, Mr. John from Madison listening on WMDX, and I'm going to read it in its entirety.
Okay, so let me get this straight.
Greg had an eight ounce German steak and was so bloated that he was out of commission and bloated all day Sunday.
Either that was some bad steak or Greg is a five foot one is five foot one and weighs a spelt 135.
What gives?
Well, here's what gives.
First of all, thanks for calling me skinny.
Um, I am a six foot two human being who weighs 250 pounds.
Uh, I didn't just have an eight ounce steak.
I had an eight ounce steak with a side of schpezel with a pretzel and we had S car go and we also
What else was there on there?
There was, I got a salad.
I split some soup.
I ate a lot of food.
I didn't just have a steak.
I ate like a portion of Germany is what I did.
So
it was, this is how bad it was, Pete.
When I got home that night, I couldn't actually lay down to bed until 1130 because my stomach was
so
brutal.
So yeah, it wasn't just a steak there, Johnny boy.
I had a lot of dinner.
There was a
lot of food there and I will have it again someday.
when I fully recovered.
So thank you so much, John, for getting in touch with us.
Before we get out of here, let's go over some more responses on the question of the night, which is, what is your favorite TV theme song?
Did we announce the nightcap, Greg?
Oh, that's right.
My goodness.
I don't want to do anything erroneously here.
No, no, no, no, you're right.
No.
No,
it's time for the nightcap.
It's time to wind it down.
This is nightcap.
with Greg and
Pete.
Seekers without that.
I think nobody would have known what that was.
Welcome to the nightcap where we wrap things up, talk about stuff and things like that.
Welcome to
the
professional lives of.
Pete Schwab and Greg Bach.
Some more texts or some messages on Facebook here.
Let's see, Justin, my buddy Justin Comedian, who was actually doing the show with me last Friday, said, Buzzing Buddies, Moonlighting, the greatest American hero and Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, as well as our co-worker, Rich Luccasio, saying WKRP in Cincinnati, which there's a fun story we can't get to tonight about that, but we can talk about it later, maybe.
Sam also says, Buzzing Buddy, greatest American hero and Mash.
Mash is also up
there
for me.
Yeah,
that's a great one Green Bay rock rap artist Matt Harper friend of the show says cheers our pal Greg Tom Clark very funny yeah says I love Sydney sung
by
Tony Randall
and
starring him.
How do you like that?
Amanda never our social media guru here says psych or Big Bang Theory Vince Moranto very funny comedian while we're moving on up
to the east side to a deluxe apartment in the sky.
Of course, the Jeffersons and our pal Dan Davey says mash as well.
Mashes coming on strong.
Oh, and Scott Lieberne, uh, texting in from Arizona says happy days and Laverne and Shirley.
He misses Wisconsin and more specifically, Milwaukee.
I
think I'll give you a couple more before we get out of here.
Uh, Leah says good times.
Jay Tyler says it's Malcolm in the middle.
Natalie says the Sopranos.
These are some new ones.
And, uh, Stacy says rescue me.
So there you go.
And there
are plenty of
other ones we weren't, we'll get into tonight's
home.
One more.
I got to squeeze one more in here.
Todd Michaels Daring, who is responsible for sort of helping with the launch of Nightlight, says closing theme.
Like I say, closing themes for good times.
He says closing theme for WKRP.
That's a great
one.
There you go.
Well, yeah.
Well, thank you so much for everyone getting in touch with us.
We really appreciate it.
And then senior producer Tucker says Game of Thrones.
Very true.
It almost makes up for the fact that show is trash in the last two seasons.
But Game of Thrones,
that's an intense one.
Pete, really quick.
What did you learn tonight?
I learned about weather.
I learned I want to have Tom DiLiberto back on the show because he had some technical issues joining us.
So he joined us late and I felt deprived of my questions.
I learned I want him back as a guest and maybe regularly because he's entertaining and I'm fascinated by weather.
All right.
Let's see here.
I learned that one man can be a filmmaker and do grab a paycheck, but his passion for frogs will always win out.
Visit frognight.com for more information.
Dom, really quick for you.
It's the same thing with me.
I'm going to look at Frog Night now.
I have a new favorite website.
It's
very soothing.
And we'll get all that stuff in the show notes for you so you can check it on out.
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Thank you so much to Frank and Oliver Anderson as well as Tom Di Liberto for being here.
Really, really appreciate your time.
Fellas really appreciate you having on the show again tomorrow talking evolutionary anthropology.
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