Dr. Kristin Lyerly on how fewer Wisconsin children and teens got vaccinated. (Hour 1)

From Washington to Hollywood and right back to Wisconsin.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

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You know, I really expected more professional behavior from you.

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Yeah, come on.

Here's Pete Schwabba.

Dude.

And Greg Bach.

Dude.

Dude.

Dude welcome How's that for a chill intro welcome to nightlight ladies and gentlemen This is we are ready to go LFG as they say it is on it is a Thursday night here in the state of Wisconsin I am peach wabba sitting across the state for me is the unbelievably talented

Greg Bach, and also my friend.

Hey, pal, how are you?

I'm doing quite well.

Thank you so much for asking.

How are you doing?

You've had a bit of a... You've been jaunting around the state.

You've been gallivanting.

Ooh, I like that.

Other words that mean traveling.

Traveling, you've been traveling.

But you are home.

You are

good.

I'm home.

I just got home a little while ago.

I got up very early, went over to PBS, loved my PBS gig.

We did our Wisconsin Film Festival episode today.

where we teased some movie clips and had some filmmakers on to talk about their films.

A great lineup this year at the Wisconsin Film Festival.

We'll talk about that as it gets ever closer.

But yeah, a fun day of shooting.

Introduced some films for independent lens and, you know, did some promos, got my car and raced up here.

And here I am back with you, buddy.

There you go.

I'm doing quite well.

I've been, you know, it's been a lazy day compared to yours.

I mean, I've been doing my work, but I'm not, I'm not on the public broadcast systems and the, you know, on a channel that requires a donation.

I mean, my goodness, you're so famous.

I

like to keep one foot in the private sector and one foot in the public TV sector.

Because let's be honest, something could happen.

You never, you gotta diversify, Greg, right?

Yes, you have to diversify your portfolio.

That's important.

And your portfolio, I can't even say the word.

That's

how

little my portfolio is diversified.

Oh stop.

I never owned a comedy club, though.

That's kind of cool.

You were like a boss man.

You could boss people around.

I've never been in that

situation.

I could, but I can't anymore, but I can't.

At the time, I was like, go change the toilet paper.

I've spoken.

And then I walk away.

And

then I don't think about anyone else's feelings because I was in charge.

That's an enviable position to be in.

I have to tell you though.

As you know, last night when I was in Madison, I left the studio there on State Street and I was going to go across the street and see Back to the Future.

Our pal Tim Sowers was on the other night and my son was on his way over.

Didn't get there in time so we scrapped it.

But Tucker Lagursky, our senior producer, was with me and we walked over.

We took a couple pictures with the DeLorean.

They had the music playing.

The DeLorean was open.

So before we went and grabbed a drink, there we are.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Oh, there's a hoverboard in there.

Yeah, baby.

That's how Tucker got to the studio last night.

He flew in from 2008.

How awesome is that?

What a time, 2008.

So simple, so innocent.

I look like I'm pregnant there.

Anyway.

Yeah, it was.

It was a lot of fun.

We saw that we heard the music and I was like, oh my God, how fun would it be just to go in there and check out the, you know, the play, but it just didn't work out.

And for folks listening to us on the radio right now, maybe thinking themselves, what are they, why the music?

What are they talking about?

Well, if you watch the live stream, you could have seen the pictures.

Watch the live stream on Facebook, YouTube or the platform we still call Twitter.

You can see the pictures, but you know, you just have to imagine Pete and Tucker standing next to a DeLorean in your own heads.

That's fine.

We love imagination here at the show.

That was how the night started then we went forward to 2038 things are much better folks The country is not polarized.

We are living in sweet harmony.

Everyone's having a coke.

It's beautiful.

So

see that's how I know you didn't actually time travel

I Was just about to introduce you Aaron that is the voice of the awesomely talented Aaron Zamas who joins us here at night like to produce sometimes and we always have a blast when you do how you doing buddy

Doing well, you know, it's nice to be on the board again.

Right now, I've been taking a little bit more of a behind the scenes role, but it's a shame that Dom has to be absent for that to happen.

Yeah, well, I mean, we miss him, but we're happy you're here.

See what I did there?

You kept one foot in the friendship.

Greg gave Dom a nickname last night, Aaron.

His name is Dom Lee.

Dom Lee.

He's Dom Lee or DJ Lee.

Damley,

he's an adverb.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm gonna kick out

of it.

It should be like, here comes Damley walking down the trail.

You know, we're just gonna build this character of Damley throughout the years.

That's right, years of this program, and then we'll have a movie made about Damley, and Pete and I will just swim in the cash.

I think

we got something.

All the cash

from Damley the musical.

Dumbly It's awesome.

Well, it's great to have you here tonight easy always love working with you buddy and Yeah, it's you know, we got a great show tonight.

Don't we

Greg?

We do indeed.

I'm very excited because welcoming

The first time she's been on the show since I've gotten here, but I haven't talked to her in a long time, is Dr. Kristen Lyrely, who is the host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show, right here on Civic Media.

She is going to be talking to us about the decline in vaccinations.

There's been a lot of stuff coming out of the Trump White House about new vaccination requirements or suggestions, and we're going to talk not only about the declining vaccination amongst children in this state, but also the fact that

States around this country are just saying no to the recommendations of the current Secretary of Health and Human Services.

So that's gonna be more with Dr. Lierly after the 530 news.

And then why don't you introduce who was coming on in the second hour?

These are friends of yours, my friend.

I know one of them, I don't know the other, but I'm looking forward to meeting, talking to them.

Greg, I would be honored.

It's Nathan Deming, the writer, director from Wisconsin.

He's from Tomah, Wisconsin.

And Nathan has been on a few civic media shows over the last couple of years.

He's very prolific.

He went to the London Film School.

His stuff looks great.

He lives in LA now, but he's kind of back and forth.

He was very instrumental with his friend who will be with him, and my friend Jeffrey Kurz will be joining him.

They were both very instrumental in...

passing or helping to pass or lobby for the incentives program here for filmmakers in Wisconsin.

So they'll be here at 620 because Jeffrey is also the executive producer of Nathan's film, which we'll talk about.

It's in the Wisconsin Film Festival.

And I actually interviewed Nathan this morning on PBS for that TV show.

So it'll be great to have those guys here.

Then they're going to help us out with the popcorn pick of the week at 635.

It's going to be a lot of fun to talk to those guys.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm looking forward to it.

But while we're here though, Pete, it's the beginning of the show.

We gotta get on to it.

It's time for the Question of the Night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Okay, this came to me last night.

I was in my hotel.

and my son and I were hanging out and the movie The Departed was on, The Departed.

So it got me thinking about accents.

So tonight's question is, what is your favorite...

accent.

You can go all over the world with this one, folks.

Southern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Brooklyn, whatever.

Let us know what your favorite accent is, and it could be from overseas.

Look, if you know people from outer space to talk strangely, you can include that too.

But just be part of the show.

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Yeah, absolutely.

I've got some ideas.

I think I have my favorite one in my brain.

We'll talk about that later.

We'll

talk

about that later.

But right now, it seems like we have, kicking off the show with a call, Greg and Waukesha right now.

Greg, how are you doing this afternoon?

Hey, buddy.

All right, we got Greg.

You there?

Greg now.

There

you are.

Hey, Greg.

I am here.

And my favorite accent, even though I don't do it well, is Dom just saw me on the phone.

It's a British accent, like the Beatles.

I love that they told me.

They're such a good band.

And they're

bloody good, in fact.

That was bloody good.

I liked it.

Get yourself some bangers

and mash.

Greg, that's awesome.

I think I'll be having that on St Patrick's Day.

There's a local bar that even though it's an Irish

pub here in Waukesha serves bangers and mash on St.

Patrick's Day.

So, yeah.

I hope they have

corned beef and cabbage too.

Oh, I'm thinking the, as Greg back knows, the house of Guinness may have corned beef and cabbage.

Oh, yeah.

I think

you're safe.

Yeah.

That's

awesome.

Yeah.

So anyway, you guys have a great night.

Thank you

very much, Greg.

We appreciate you calling in.

Very

much so.

Thank you, Governor.

That's a tough act to follow.

I never open with a showstopper.

I know,

right?

We

just go home now.

That's awesome.

Thank you, Greg.

But uh, let's uh speaking of moot.

We gotta we gotta move on with the show my

friends

We gotta get on to the I got in our three big things for the night with knockout that first one the first big story Boom yeah, all right JS online is reporting the story came out a couple days ago quote P owed evers vows to resist any FBI effort to seize

Milwaukee ballots.

So if folks don't know already, the FBI has been seizing ballots in Georgia, looking to seize ballots in Arizona.

And, uh, Tony Evers has said, no, he will not, he will make sure that this does not happen in an effort to retrieve ballots from the 2020 election, which was now, let's

see.

Oh my

God.

Oh, nearly five and a half years ago when Donald Donald Trump lost, but we're still here,

Pete.

And it's like, it was voted, you know, his challenges were voted down by like 60 courts by a lot of judges he appointed.

I just, this is insane that we're still talking about this.

And as I understand it anyway, it's to get information about voters and how people vote so that there can be some tomfoolery.

That's the speculation anyway.

So it's good for Governor Evers, I say.

Yeah.

And when he says, when he, you know, P owed.

He said it.

He's like, I'm PO'd.

You know that's a big deal.

You know it's a big deal.

When Governor

Evers.

I am, well, I was gonna say chuffed, but that's not correct.

Chuffed is excited.

It's a very weird word.

No, chuffed.

Chuffed.

Yeah, I didn't know.

I was suggesting chuffed.

Chuffed maybe?

I don't know.

Let's get Greg back on the phone.

But no, this to me is absolutely ridiculous that five plus years later they're like, we want your ballots.

It's like, why?

What do you think you are going to find?

What do you think you are going to find?

Right, exactly.

And it's just to me, we talked about this the other day with one of our guests where it was like, there's all this information we're going to do away with absentee ballots or not voting in person or whatever, vote by mail.

It just seems like it's too ensue chaos and this just seems to be another cog in that like how can we I honestly I have to do some research before I go vote Now this year because I want to make sure I get it right and I think that's what people are scared about, you know

Well, the other thing too is is that you know, it says in the article that we have a right to to vote in a secret election Like we allow our balance to be secret.

We shouldn't have to be seen

That information should not be made public.

We have a right to have

a

secret.

I should not be told anyone who I vote for, but we'll talk more about that on the other side.

We got more big things to talk about here on nightlight with Pete Schwab and Greg Bach here on the Civic Media Network.

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Welcome back.

Hey, you've got the Civic Media Network here.

I am Pete Schwabba sitting across the stage from Greg Bach, and this is Nightlight, and we are thrilled you're here on this Thursday night, the Christmas Eve of weeknights, as I sometimes call it.

And the Christmas is coming, folks.

We've got weather.

We'll talk about that.

Coming up at 535, Dr. Kristin Lierly will be here.

She hosts the Dr. Kristin Lierly show here on Civic Media, and she is also an OBGYN, and we're going to talk to her about vaccines or

the fact that people are getting less of them.

That's coming up at 5.35.

Next hour, we've got some independent film talk with Nathan Deming and Jeffrey Kurz.

Their film Winter Hymns will be at the Wisconsin Film Festival, and then they're going to stick around and do the popcorn pick of the week.

Right now, and we've got Aaron Zomers with us tonight.

Zomers, you're still here.

I assume everything's going well.

Yeah.

I mean, unless there's something that you're not telling me, yeah.

No, you're the guy with

all the... No, no one's not telling you anything, Aaron.

Not whatsoever.

Oh, boy.

Oh, boy.

We've got... We're in the middle of talking about a few news stories here, our big three stories of the day, and we got through one, and we've got two more to go, so let's get at it, Greg.

The second big story.

He's still with us in spirit, Domli.

Domli.

This is probably what we're looking at like obviously we have more military than we than anybody but like There was a cyber attack here on our soil by an Iran backed hacker group, which is claim responsibility The company is striker headquartered in Michigan and they make medical equipment and technology Is this what we're looking at is this how Iran?

will retaliate, and is this the only way that we know of, is this the biggest threat they post, Greg, do you think?

Well, I mean, it's a definitely, to me, I don't know.

If Iran has the capability to fly over here and and and drop bombs I mean call me naive, but I don't think they do so I think this is definitely a way they can do this This is definitely I mean this is what Russia did do us back in 2016.

This is what a lot I mean you cyber attack us It's something that we're all very open to so it doesn't surprise me at all that this is what they've done and they might continue to do it too

What their goal honestly is, I don't know, but I'm not surprised.

And this is the second time we've bombed them in a year.

So of course now they're like, well, it's time to retaliate.

And I don't want it to happen, but am I shocked?

No, not one bit.

Well, apparently in the past, they've hacked, they had victims in Saudi, or the Sands Casino, Saudi Arabia's national oil company in 2012.

So, and, but let's, okay.

So saying that that's what I thought too.

However, there is also an attack, a potential attack.

I

don't believe it's imminent, but there's a concern that the Oscars could be attacked from sea with possible drones.

So they have some capability.

I don't know what our defenses are against that stuff, but that's a

That's a thing.

And I'm told Cash Patel himself will be there at the Oscars overseeing things and probably doing a beer bomb.

For

real, he'll be at the Oscars.

Oh my God.

It was at the hockey Olympics.

I can't believe Shalamet won.

Yeah.

Yeah,

totally.

So that'll be interesting.

Yeah.

LAPD and FBI have just said they're going to heighten security.

So hopefully things will go off without a hitch.

I like watching the Oscars.

I love movies.

I hope everything goes

okay.

I mean, it just to me, like.

I don't know.

It's like, I don't know how to say it without, none of this surprises me.

And will something happen to the Oscars?

I want to say no, but they want to tell us there's heightened security.

But that's the thing is if something does happen, then my problem is people will say, well, we got to, you know, Iran, their terror was like, no, we, we bombed them twice.

We have bombed them twice.

And this is not me saying we get what we deserve.

I'm saying is like, is that the people who will spin whatever happens as Iran is this terrible country?

Well, they are retaliating at this point because of what we have done.

So therein lies the conversation about what we are doing over there in the first place in this war, not war.

That's over sort of over done, almost done, completed.

Who knows?

It's a war, not war.

So.

I just started calling it the what have you because

I don't

even know

It's the kerfuffle.

It's a

kerfuffle.

Exactly.

Oh

my goodness.

Well, hopefully everything will go off without a hitch on Sunday night.

And then we have time.

We got to sneak this in.

It's kind of a teaser as to what's coming, wouldn't you

say?

I mean, yeah, but everyone really knows what's going on there.

But hit it, Aaron's Omers.

The third big story.

Snow, baby.

Winter has not done.

at all.

They're saying, let's see here, let's see, 70 degree weather follow potentially one of the biggest snow storms of the season.

Welcome to March in Milwaukee and throughout the state.

I mean, you said, you said Pete, you guys are looking at 30 inches up by you.

As

I understand it, Marinette is looking at about 26 to 28 inches between Sunday Monday and we're supposed to get six inches tomorrow.

So that, that takes us up to like 34 inches over the course of four days.

Green Bay between Sunday and Monday is supposed to get 30.

inches of snow.

I'm no Maze Michaels, but that's what I read on my Apple app.

And Milwaukee and Madison a foot of snow on Sunday may be more on Monday.

So we are going to be in the throes of it.

We are not going gently.

Winter is not going gently into that great night.

And please make sure you're I know I know that we're getting into that mid March where it's like, oh, the snow will come and then it will melt.

But please be careful while you're driving walking around.

Get yourself prepared for it.

Keep it locked here on Civic Media.

We've always got the most up-to-date weather forecast for you.

So just be safe, be prepared.

And also, as always, check on older folks if they need help, especially during these wintery months as we are getting out of the cold.

So please, please be aware, please be just cognizant.

Exactly, exactly.

My words are not reaching my brain today, Pete, so I'm just warning you right now.

I should have warned you, say, an hour ago, but no, the words are just not... They're just... It's not... Thursday's not treating me nice.

We are co-hosts now.

We will have, like, a steel third sign if one of us is stumbling and the other one just picks up.

I think we can figure that out.

Hey, we are coming right back, folks.

Tonight's question of the night is, what is your favorite accent Dr. Kristen Lyley is coming up next after the news?

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bakken.

Aaron Zomers tonight.

You've got the Civic Media Network.

I think so.

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Still ahead on the show, we'll be having a great conversation with Nathan Deming as well as, remind me the name again, it's not on the, it's

not on the- Jeffrey Kurz.

Jeffrey Kurz will be talking about their new movie that will be premiering at the Milwaukee Film Festival as well

as-

Wisconsin.

Wisconsin film festival.

My apologies.

As well as giving us their popcorn pick of the week, so don't go anywhere.

But right now, we have got the effervescent, the wonderful, the amazing Dr. Kristen Lyrely here.

Good evening, Dr. Lyrely.

It's been some time.

I just want to keep singing MacArthur Park because it's just like it's in my soul right now because I left all my cake out in the rain.

Not advisable, but do you ever go in to deliver a baby kind of doing a little disco move and how would that work?

Would people get nervous or would that put them at ease?

What are your thoughts?

I sing all the time.

constantly in the clinic and in the operating room, in the delivery room.

Sometimes it's super appropriate.

Sometimes parents come with their own playlists.

I had a dad, this is a true story.

I had a dad who, they had made this amazing playlist and it was wonderful and they had a very natural birth without any medications and it was like, it was so cool.

And when she was like crowning, like the baby's head was about to come out and I said, we're about to have a baby here.

He was futzing with his phone and all of a sudden,

heard.

It

was perfect.

Oh my god, that's funny.

Was that distracting?

Was that distracting to you or did you like how did that?

We were all crying because it was so emotional and so funny and she was incredible.

The baby was great.

It was like one of those moments that I

will never forget.

The only thing that would make that story better is if this woman gave birth to a lion.

No.

No.

There'd be oodles of complications and... Well, with

that attitude, yeah.

Oh boy.

Kristen is not only a doctor, she is the doctor of the shutdown.

Nobody can shut a joke down.

I

love watching comedians scored by the unfunny-ness of their best.

You

know any?

I love the two of you together.

When I heard about this, I was like, this is going to be good.

Well, you're

officially part of it.

So there

you go.

So the reason why we invited you on and you and I have talked about this so many times because this

This story is just not going away, but in the Wisconsin Examiner earlier this week, article came out said rates for most vaccines in children and teens are declining in Wisconsin.

And honestly, like, this shouldn't be news to anybody because this has been happening for some time, correct?

it has been happening for some time, but it keeps going down.

And now we're to the point where it's less than seven in 10 kids are getting the typical recommended vaccine schedule.

And that's a huge problem because in order for us to have herd immunity, where the people who can't get vaccinated or don't respond to vaccines, they need our protection and it needs to be at 95% for something like measles.

We are not there.

And in fact, we are one of the

least vaccinated states when it comes to measles.

Guys, this is so scary because think about all of the people who are going off to spring break right now because we're seeing all these measles outbreaks all over the country in the warm States and measles is incredibly contagious.

People are going to come back and they're going to be sick.

And then we've got these little populations.

We saw it in Ocanto.

We saw two kids die in Texas last year.

We no longer have that national protection from measles, but Wisconsin is especially vulnerable.

What does it mean when like I saw the statistic like less than 2% just in five years have are not getting vaccinated?

What does that mean for the rest of the people who get vaccinated?

Like are they more at risk or are they still protected?

What does it mean when other people don't get vaccinated to the people that do?

Well, usually, most people who get vaccinated because these vaccines are so effective, we are covered.

It's the vulnerable people.

It's the little kids and the older people and the people with immune problems, the people who have had transplants, the people who have genetic issues.

Some people can't tolerate vaccines and they are counting on us to protect them.

But when we don't do our public health part, we make those vulnerable people, we put them in danger.

I think I know the answer already, but please elaborate deeper into this question if you if you know the answer, of course, but what led us here?

I mean, I feel like saying Wisconsin is one of the least vaccinated states in America.

That is a shocking statement to me.

It's embarrassing.

And I want to know what led us to a place where we were like this.

I mean, I just feel like is it

because of the pandemic and people's dislike of the vaccine or is it something else that's been happening for longer?

It's really rooted in politics.

to be very honest with you.

So here in Wisconsin, we've had a Republicans tend to not want all of us to be vaccinated with an opt out option.

Democrats tend to want us to be vaccinated.

So it is it's in Wisconsin, because we've had Republicans at the helm for what a decade and a half now, we've seen protections for vaccines slipping away.

And in fact, we've had the an exception.

So you've been able to say, I just don't want it here in Wisconsin for your kids.

And that's not the case in most other states.

So this is the result of 15 years of just not trusting the establishment.

and getting messages from politicians that make you question whether something is safe or not.

And then COVID happened.

And now there's even more.

Look at what's happening with KC Means and with RFP Junior and all of the undermining of our public health infrastructure.

There's so much mistrust in health care professionals.

There's so much mistrust in anything that's traditional.

It's making it really hard for people to know who they can trust, where they can go for information, what's really available to them.

Our guest is Dr. Kristin Lierly.

She is an OB-GYN.

You should follow her on all of her socials, folks.

She's out there, look for her, follow her.

She's just kind of an all-around smart girl too, let's be honest.

So when you say that, here's what I want to know.

The question I just asked you before are those that get vaccinated at more risk because some don't.

You said not really.

It's these people that don't, the vulnerable.

That's who you're going to bat for.

That's who people that get vaccinated are going to bat for.

That's our horse in the race.

So why so much resistance?

Do you feel like getting the message out there does eventually hit people or do they have to suffer some kind of tragedy?

I think it's like anything else.

It doesn't feel real until it happens to you.

You know, like measles wasn't, I didn't think the leopard would eat my face.

Measles isn't a thing until you have a little kid who's got measles encephalitis, his brain is swollen and he can no longer eat for himself and he can no longer walk or talk in South Carolina.

This is actually happening actually right now in South Carolina.

Totally preventable, but children.

are suffering and more children will suffer from a vaccine preventable disease because of misinformation and disinformation.

We have Cindy from Appleton on the phone right now, wanting to talk about this.

Good evening, Cindy.

How are you this evening?

Good.

How are you?

How are you, Dr. Lyrie?

Hey, Cindy.

Good to hear from you.

You too.

You're still a little bit of my thunder about talking about how the Republicans have, you know, just connected us from the healthcare profession, just like they did with the teachers.

They're making all the professionals so unprofessional.

And this unprofessionalism is coming from some of the most unprofessional people on the planet.

So I just don't understand why people can't figure this out for their own.

Yeah.

I mean, that's a very good point.

And I want to take a question on what Cindy said.

is, you know, say at the, in fall, we get a whole new set of people in Madison and we get new legislation, legislators and a new attitude.

I don't want to say liberals or Democrats, but just this thing of where we're like, all right, let's start to repair some of these things that have happened over the past 15 years.

How long is it for people like yourselves and your industry is going to take to convince the people that, oh, vaccines are okay.

They are safe.

Like all the work they've done to destroy the credibility, now you have to work probably.

two, three times harder to build it back up again.

Yeah, and in this environment where people can't get access to a healthcare provider, that is the most important thing, because people still trust their own doctors, even with the misinformation out

there.

But if you don't have a healthcare provider, and a lot of people don't, because they can't afford it, and more and more people can't afford it,

So that's going to be, I think, the challenging thing.

And you know, Casey Means said this during her confirmation hearing for Surgeon General.

Casey Means, by the way, who is not a practicing physician, never has been unsupervised, does not have a medical license, is not board certified.

Like there's so many reasons

for

not to be the Surgeon General.

It's a whole other episode.

But she was talking about shared decision making and informed consent.

And I

absolutely believe in that.

You need to know what all of your options are and you need to know how they fit in the context of your life so you can make the right decision for yourself.

And I might make a different decision than you would make, but only you can make that decision for you.

Yes, but.

If you don't have somebody there who's going to be objective, who's going to give you the evidence, who's going to give you the data, and who's going to walk with you in this journey, you can't make that decision.

That trusted person isn't on TikTok.

You don't get that in a 45-second reel that you skip by and look for the next thing.

So we need to fix our health care system.

And in order for us to fix our health care system, we also have to fix our public health system.

And that means we need

access to vaccines, access to care, access to preventive health.

There's so much that's broken right now in this country.

We desperately have to fix it.

You don't think putting five bucks a month in a health savings account is going to get you to the finish line if you get a serious disease?

No, but it's a great investment vehicle for people because it's triple tax deductible.

I heard it was getting $2,000.

What happened to my $2,000?

Where's my $2,000?

That'll fix everything.

Dr. Lylee, there are a group in this article from the Journal of Sentinel that says vaccine rates for a group of seven childhood diseases that public health experts recommend for the first two years after birth.

What are those other diseases and what are the ones that are comparable to measles, if any?

Are they just as dangerous?

Well, I mean, they're all dangerous if you're exposed to them and you get sick.

Measles is the big one because it's so contagious.

We remember COVID and how contagious that was.

Measles is even more contagious than COVID.

Wow.

Yeah, it's really dangerous.

And the people who are mostly affected are little kids.

But there are other things like hepatitis B. Hepatitis B vaccine, the first dose is actually given at the time of birth.

And I remember, I mean, Pete, your kids and my kids are right about the same age.

This was when this hepatitis B birth dose was a pretty brand new thing.

I remember having my first baby and just looking at him and thinking, really, they want me to give him a vaccine?

That seems like such a bad idea.

But we know that it has decreased the incidence of hepatitis B and hepatitis B leads to liver disease, liver cancer, terrible things later in life that are completely preventable if we do it right.

But now the federal government is changing the recommendations and we're not doing it right anymore.

And that means children and adults are going to suffer the consequences down the road.

And we're going to talk more about that on the other side of the break, the fact that the recommendations that have been given to us by the health and human services

States around the nation are not enjoying it.

So we're going to talk more about that on the other side.

But don't go anywhere.

We were talking to Dr. Kristen Lierly, our buddy, our pal here on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach here on the Civic Media Network.

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This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach and Aaron Zommer's Ride and Shotgun, producing the show tonight.

It's great to have you with us, folks.

This is a Thursday in March.

We are getting ever closer to more fun days ahead.

Once we get past Snowpocalypse, but good days are on the way.

And this is a great night because Dr. Kristen Lierly is here.

And Kristen, I want to tell you something about what a stand-up guy Aaron Zomers is.

Are both of our kids are in the musical theater program, Steven's point.

Yeah.

Zomers was going to go to the show that my daughter was in last week.

He was going to drive from Anna to walk to Steven.

Now, it didn't happen.

I bought a ticket.

But he fully intended.

He bought a ticket.

And they put

on.

You know, they put on good shows.

I really wanted to

go.

There will be more.

Actually, I talked to Lindsay last night and he told me that they're putting on Rocky Horror in the

fall.

That

should be fun, too.

And he's Brad.

Oh

sweet!

I

know

you were so excited!

I know you were so funny.

That's

very very cool.

So come to Rocky Horror we don't know when it is sometime in the fall.

I'll be there.

Generally around Halloween it tends to be.

Zomers I'll pick you up this time you get no excuse.

Seriously thank you for the donation.

On behalf of the students so Dr. Lierly

Let's jump back in.

Greg, I was going to ask her about colds, but if you have more with the vaccines, maybe we should stick with that.

Well, we have a caller right now, Susan from McFarland, who wanted to ask a really quick question.

Susan, good evening.

Welcome to Nightlight.

How are you?

It

appears we have lost Susan going once, going twice.

Susan, where are you?

Well, feel free to call back.

Yeah, call back Susan.

Please call back, yeah.

Go ahead, Pete.

We kind of touched on this last time, but everybody I know this winter has a cold that will not go away.

What is the deal?

Is there a strong, extra strong cold strain?

Is there something in the air?

I had to go on antibiotics last week to get rid of a cold that I had for like eight weeks.

I'm in the same boat, man.

No, it's just that we're old.

Come on.

Thank you for stopping by Dr. Lyle.

Yeah, the common cold is such a hassle, but you know, there's no vaccine for it.

So it's good preventive health, washing your hands, don't touch your face, you know, don't expose yourself.

Yeah, it's, yeah.

I don't, I

rarely expose myself.

I just want

to go on record.

So once you have a cold though,

Is

there

anything you can do or is that a myth?

I know once you have it, you're kind of stuck with it, right?

Symptomatic treatment, taking good care of yourself, you know?

Rest, hydration, good diet, reasonable exercise, and then...

treat the symptoms with, like sometimes if your nose is stuffy, you can use that aphrodose spray, but not for too long.

You can use a steroid nose spray.

You can use decongestants, but you know, talk to your pharmacist or your doctor because some of those things are not safe for everybody.

And you want to make sure that you're using the medicine that treats the symptom that you have.

Have you ever like gone to look at the cold medicine aisle and it's everything and they have all of these different things that they treat and some of the medicines are good and some aren't.

It's just, it's confusing and it's overwhelming.

I would say stick to the specific symptoms.

If your nose is stuffy, use something for your stuffy nose.

If your throat is sore, use something for your sore throat.

And the tip about asking your pharmacist, definitely spot on.

I used to work as a pharmacy tech and people would come in all the time and be like, oh, I'm sick with this.

And they'd be like, all right, let me pull up your chart, make sure there's nothing you can't have.

Okay, we recommend this specific thing.

And then they're like, okay, in and out in a couple of minutes.

That's a good reason to have a relationship with your pharmacist.

I mean, if you are lucky enough to have like a hometown pharmacy that you can count on the people who are there and they know you, just like your doctor or your healthcare provider, those relationships are gold.

I know that my, I have a very close relationship with my pharmacist.

His name is Dr. Walgreens.

He really cares about

the things that

definitely doesn't keep me waiting at the drive-through for what seems like

a lunch break.

You got to find a home.

There is a hometown pharmacy with that name.

A more local pharmacy.

I switched recently.

I'm not going to bat mouth any pharmacy.

It is Greg.

I'm not kidding.

It has made a world of difference.

Okay.

All right.

I'll check it.

I'll check into it.

Now really quick before we get out of here, Susan from McFarland is back.

Hey,

Susan.

Welcome back.

How

are you

today?

Oh, thank you.

I thought you'd hung up on me.

So anyway, the question I had is in comment is that I have understood that

There can be birth defects related to either German measles or regular measles.

If I am incorrect in that, that's how I understood it.

So if you get pregnant during a certain trimester and if you're during a certain trimester, it could cause birth defects.

Is that an accurate statement?

That's really true.

Yeah, and I've never seen measles.

We talked about it in medical school, and I remember having one patient at one point who thought she was exposed to it, so we ended up treating her.

But yeah, if you, and there are a couple other viruses, CMV, cytomegalovirus, or cytomegalovirus is the prime example where if you get it at a certain point in your pregnancy, it can cause problems with the pregnancy.

That's why it's so important to have a healthcare provider, who you trust, who knows you, who will take care of you.

Cause weird things like this do happen and they have a profound impact.

Well, thank you so much for calling Susan.

Appreciate that.

And I mean, those are the questions people need to be asking.

Cause again, like you said, if people don't have access to healthcare, access to a healthcare provider, these like.

Hopefully they're getting they're gleaning something from these conversations John from Oshkosh listening on WISS says I'm going to cash in my dose checks with the tax rebate check and my Soros payment rolling in the cash I mean John good on you buddy way to really save those dollars and Clint in Wanaki listening on WMDX asks a very simple question when is dr. Lierly running for office again I don't know I don't know I don't know these things people are talking

I don't know

We'll see what happens right now.

We are just like pulling people together and you know.

I think really where our power lies right now is in our communities and talking to each other.

We're talking about healthcare providers and the trust we have of our healthcare providers.

But what about our neighbors?

What about our school people?

What about the people that we work with?

We've got to have more conversations.

We've got to knit the fabric of our communities back together again, because we have been torn apart by politics, by social media, by all of these divisive, fear-mongering things.

So let's do that.

Well said.

Check out Dr. Kristen Lyrely on the social media at Dr. Kristen Lyrely.

Dr. Lyrely, thank you so much for being here.

Of course, we love having you here.

Don't be a stranger, my friend.

I

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Thanks, Dr. Lyrely.

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Yeah, I guess we're doing this.

You know, I am sorry for the lack of confidence, Zomers.

I just thought maybe I should just go with it, but my bad, I stepped into your toes.

You were on it as usual.

Tonight's question of the night is, what is your favorite accent?

And this stems from last night in my hotel room.

And I've done this question in the past, too.

What is the best movie to stumble on in a hotel room?

Like when you're just on broadcast TV with commercials, you know, that you're going to sit through, you know?

I feel like whenever I'm in a hotel room, I can guarantee.

I can count on.

watching at least one to seven hours of Marvel movies.

Because

those hotel TVs always have a station that will play Marvel movies and they're always playing like four in a row.

And I always

know

it used to be Harry Potter.

I could always watch a Harry Potter movie on a hotel television.

Now it's Marvel.

That's yeah, that's really that's a big one.

I always seem to find the fugitive is always on in a hotel a few good men, which I can't turn off Last night it was the depatted the

mark

says he filmed the departed and they had that thick boss an accent So I thought let's have some fun with accents.

That is tonight's question of the night.

What is

your

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What is your favorite accent?

Kicking it right off.

Let's go with Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids who got in touch with us a little bit earlier in the show.

He said, Canuckia Hozers.

So there you go.

That's a good.

Oh, ya hozzers!

I have to say, I can't really tell that much of a difference, like, when someone is doing a Canadian, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Upper Michigan, they're all kind of the same, but there are nuances within, and I'm blown away by the people who say, that's not Wisconsin, that's Minnesota.

And I'm like, okay, I'll defer to you, you know.

Well, I also think, you know, tell me what the both of you think of this is that, you know, the common conception that, like, oh, people from Wisconsin talk like this.

I've lived here my entire life and nobody I know talks like that.

Like, not in this region.

I live in southeastern Wisconsin.

We don't talk like that.

We talk the way I am talking right now.

But like, is everyone distinct?

We all talk like this.

Yeah.

Oh my goodness.

There's a

casserole in the oven and we got to shovel this the driveway.

Oh, I definitely know some people I grew up with who talk like that or people farther up north.

Oh, yeah.

Hey.

Farther up north exactly up totally like our friend Mary Mac.

She has very

much that

she's crushes it

and she'll take any mattresses off your hands

Very nice We've got Chris in Madison says my favorite accent is the accent here in Wisconsin specifically the way we use offer Oh instead of socks.

It's sock

That sounds

like a Boston.

I'm wearing a

pair of

socks.

Socks.

Socks.

Like California would be my socks.

Am

I supposed

to say socks?

Socks?

Yeah, I don't phonetically like... I'm very confused.

It kind of looks Boston to me.

It's

sacks.

It's sacks.

Yeah, no.

I say socks.

Ah.

Yeah.

Ah, not... I feel like Chris, you're just like wedging us into a corner here because for an O, it would be socks.

Socks.

I do agree with what Chris said at the end of that.

He said, instead of Wisconsin, it's Wisconsin.

That's how Scott Walker used to say it.

And there are various people that say, here in Wisconsin, you know.

So

that's a good one.

That's great.

Thank you.

I feel like the most, one of the most identifiable Wisconsin accent markers is bag, dragon, flag.

Instead of bag, dragon or flag, you know.

I know when you're from Illinois immediately, when you call it milk, not milk.

One of my roommates calls it milk and he is from Madison and it disappoints me.

Is he really from Madison or is he born

in Illinois?

Okay, all

right.

I have to be honest.

I have spent about half my life in each place.

I'm kind of tired of both accents.

I just find, especially when they're exaggerated, like we're in Chicago, where's my hat?

Stop.

Or when you're in Wisconsin and you say, what's your big?

Oh, God, it's stop.

Let's just.

Think about what we're saying and try to get rid of the extremes.

I

just, I know, I know a guy who lives in Chicago, who is like the quintessential Chicago guy.

He talks like this.

You know, I'm from Chicago.

I know,

I

just always think of that character from new girl, Julius.

I'm Julius Pepperwood.

I, I don't like, uh, I don't like, uh, thin Pisa.

I don't like a deep dish.

I'm from Chicago.

Like that's how my friend Danny sounds.

He sounds like Chicago had a bunch of babies and he is their prime.

Yeah, that's great.

We've got Nick from Marshall says my favorite accent is the Jamaican accent.

That's a good one, but not too thick because when it's hard, then it's hard to understand what they're saying.

That's kind of the way it is.

I think with every accent, especially like Boston, I love the Irish Brogue.

That would probably be my favorite.

I've got a lot of Irish in my family, but that's hard to understand, too.

You kind of need subtitles if you're watching a movie shot in Ireland and like Dom Nall Gleason is in it or something.

If you want a really good way to decipher those, those accents, not so much Jamaican.

Well, Jamaican, you got to immerse yourself.

But like I've watched a lot of British television over my lifetime.

So for me, those accents are a little easier to take in not not all the time.

I still don't understand what the Gallagher brothers are saying, but

Yeah, like a lifetime of BBC and Monty Python and all those shows.

I'm like, oh, it's not that bad, but I understand where people are coming from.

For me, my favorite accent is gotta be New Zealand because it's like, you just take the Australian accent and you just click it up a little bit and there you go.

And

I

do a terrible New Zealand, because I think I'm doing New Zealand and it just sounds Australian.

Please,

please try.

Please do

it, Greg.

What you want me to say.

He's gonna say, uh, my phone right here, and I'm just gonna call on my phone to my mobile.

That's terrible.

It's

terrible.

No, it's not good.

I just feel, you know, now I feel exposed.

What about

you, Somers?

You got a favorite?

I think I got to go with probably Irish, um, or generally, you know, the, uh, the UK accents.

I make fun of a lot of things about the UK very often.

And that's part of why I love that, is watching Love Island and getting to the parts where it is required to have subtitles to understand what they're saying is

very

funny to me.

Love Island UK specifically.

And then you get the people who they talk like this and they don't know what Brexit is.

I like that.