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It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

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Here's Pete Schwabba.

Dude.

And Greg Bach.

Dude!

Just a couple dudes

dude

Welcome everybody.

This is night light as you just heard I am Pete Schwabba and sitting across from me is My partner in crime tonight the amazingly talented mr. Greg Bach and working the board Yeah, is the guy I like to call Dom Lee a lot of other people call him different stuff But he'll always be Dom Lee to me.

Oh, you'll always be Dom Lee to me Don't sue us Billy Joel

welcome to nightlight that is

Greg, you're a musical guy.

Do you sing?

Did you ever, when you were in bands, did you sing?

Yes, I was a lead singer, a backup vocalist.

I'm sort of a jack of all trades when it comes to a band situation.

I like to be able to play whatever is necessary and do whatever is necessary in a band because that's how you get hired.

That's you got to know everything like in radio.

I'm amazed everybody.

I meet here at civic media like knows how to run the board.

They know how to do this.

They want to fix a tower and they've been on air.

I'm like, all right, I got some catching up to do.

But

either way, it's good.

Well, the tower is falling now.

Pete, go grab it.

I'm just kidding.

Engineers towers not falling.

Everything's fine.

We

don't have a tower.

Here's what did fall.

Let me get your opinion on this.

I have a bring

it

guys

bring it bring it

bring it take any I don't have a running feud with the people that collect my trash every week But inevitably every time I go out there.

Yeah, my cans are down on the ground and My neighbors are still upright.

Okay, so I feel like they're trying to send me a message.

I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist I don't know why they'd be sending me a message but

It's happened, I would say four or five times out of the last 10 weeks.

What do

you mean?

Okay.

Well, first of all, never say I have a beef with my garbage people and then don't fall and then, and then say, I'm not, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist because you will.

I would say this.

Okay.

What day is your trash pickup?

Tuesday.

Tuesday.

Do you know about time?

You know, is there a regular like, is it, they come the morning afternoon?

Well, it varies a little bit, but typically late morning.

Okay.

I would do this.

I would maybe, if you can remember, because we all got busy lives, maybe on Tuesday, you just sort of pay attention, have some coffee, watch out the window and see what happens.

Because if they're knocking them over,

That's an interesting question if no one else is getting knocked over see what is it the pre is it how you're presenting them?

Is it a way?

I mean maybe you're putting stuff in there.

They don't like I don't know I have no idea is that the specific placement of the trash bins where they are At your curb.

I have no idea.

I would say do some real digging on there I would run an experiment watch for yourself and see what happens

and

report back

You know, I here's the thing

When they damage the can, they give us the cans and they're not

cans.

They're like the big plastic bins.

So I feel like if they're going to beat up my cans for some reason, they're just going to replace them.

So I don't put that much into it.

I also put a big sticker on the side of each can that says, how's my garbage putting out?

Call 1-800-EAT-BLANK.

Really?

Or is that a

joke?

Oh

my god, I would never do that.

Listen to what we're talking about right now, and then you say you do that.

I have every right to be like, really?

Okay, all right.

Okay, fair enough.

No, I'm just gonna get a ring cam, I think.

Don't get around.

They share stuff with Elise.

Yeah, I mean, that's what my other suggestion was going to be is just set up a camera for that, for that like couple hours and see what happens.

I mean, I feel like it's a big enough thing that you brought it up here to the show.

You want to find out more?

Well, listen, I have,

I have

garbage man.

I was a garbage man in the past, a summer job in college.

I collected garbage.

I smelled bad meat, horrible milk.

I see what, you know,

Um, I see what happens.

I've, I've seen the inner workings.

So I have a little bit of respect for these guys, but I, I feel like if my cans keep taking a beating, there's going to be hell to pay.

Okay.

You heard it here, folks.

You heard it here first.

Pete Schwabba threatening municipal workers in the Marionette

area, not municipal workers.

That's a private company.

I would

never

threaten municipal workers.

I have too

much.

I mean, that's another question you can always bring up is privatizing that kind of stuff.

Good for the community.

I could talk about that for a while, but I'm not going to because we want to have some fun tonight.

Let's get to it.

We have such a good show for you ahead today.

In this hour, we're talking to Patrick Dahan, who is the head of petroleum analysis at gas buddy.

I love this.

I love that we had a talk with him about this, talking about gas prices.

And then in the second hour, we're talking to civic media's very own Stuart J waddles about, you know, his job, what's going on, but he's also bringing us the popcorn pick of the week.

Stuart just an outstanding job covering news for Southeast Wisconsin here at Civic Media.

And he's he's a bit of a he's kind of turned into kind of a music guy.

So I figured this

is

going to work out well because our question of the night has to do with music.

Stuart

will weigh in on

that.

And then after the news, he'll give us the popcorn pick of the week.

It'll be fun.

I just want to say I'm very excited to have someone from an actual app on the show tonight.

Which app is that there, Pete?

Yes, buddy, Greg.

Oh, I thought you meant, I thought you meant the civic media app.

We've got two people from apps today

because

gas buddy.

Yes.

A wonderful app.

Very, very, very, very, very good.

I was trying to think of a better word, but I couldn't.

It's good.

Um, but also the civic media app, you can hear.

Stuart J Waddle is on the Civic Media app because he gives all the news for Southeastern Wisconsin.

You can download the app, listen to live shows, talk or music.

You can get your news.

You can get whatever you need.

You can talk to us, call text or send a voice message.

It's all right there on the Civic Media app.

So not only, not only do we have one app, we have two app people on the night.

It's all about the apps.

It's all about the apps, baby.

Phone lines are always open 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5-CIVIC.

And I think without further ado, speaking of overrated bands, we need to get to tonight's question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

OK, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

OK, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Oh, here we go.

You ready for this, Greg?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What rock star or band is seriously?

overrated.

What rockstar or band is seriously overrated?

Let us know.

Be part of the show.

I just mentioned the text line.

You can also text in on the app or if you're watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook or ex Twitter, you can drop us a stream comment, be part of the fun.

And as always, you're welcome to weigh in on anything Greg and I are talking about tonight.

We love to hear your opinions.

And that goes for you too, Dom.

All right.

I will take that into consideration.

Dom, what are your opinions?

I have no.

Thanks for letting us know.

All right.

We're moving on now.

I'm just kidding.

I like that I'm where he comes back at you a little bit.

That's fantastic.

I mean, he controls the microphones.

I have to be nice to him.

He's

really having it.

That's awesome.

All right.

So we've got some things to talk about, Greg.

We do have some things to talk about.

Yes, we do.

The first big story.

I

mean,

there's no getting around it.

It broke earlier today.

Christie Nome, now the former secretary of the department of Homeland security being let go by the president earlier this afternoon.

I honestly, like I don't, I'm not, I'm surprised it happened now versus say, you know, a couple of weeks ago when it was, I feel like it would have been even more, I don't want to say justified, but when they were calling for her to be fired,

uh, after the shooting deaths of Nicole, good and Alex, Freddie, but it just happened today on a Friday.

Uh, the president tweeted it out on true social that he is, that she is going to be gone.

She has the, she has the, uh, she's going out the door and in her place, uh, Pete in her place,

Mark Wayne Mullins, buddy.

Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne

Mullen.

Let's talk about him, but first her.

This is kind of perplexing.

First of all, she might be let go by her husband, too, if these rumors are true that senators were bringing up.

That was kind of strange, but in this administration, what do you have to do to get fired?

Apparently this.

Apparently this, but it's perplexing

to me.

I

was

actually shocked when I saw this.

if you look at if you look at everything so if you you know this is this is all AI research really quick it's an overview but it's plausible because people have talked about this so people believe her mishandling of the DHS and all the things regarding ice agents specifically in Minneapolis there's there she has been lambasted by

members of Congress, both on the Republican and the Democratic side money handling money as far as like, you know, mismanaging this $220 million for an ad campaign, plain controversies, the Corey Lewandowski thing.

Everything she has done that people are pointing to has been done by other people.

And they're staying in their jobs.

And I just want to bring up a point here.

Pete Hegseth, who is the is the secretary of home.

He is I'm sorry, he is the secretary of defense.

He

spoke about private military plans on a signal chat with a reporter on there that he invited into the chat and talked about these various and he kept his job.

Like we're talking about high end problems from a guy who also not qualified to be there in that job.

I'm sorry, you were in the military.

My dad was in the military.

He cannot be the secretary of defense, but

Everything she has done has been done by other people, and yet she's losing her job.

I have to imagine it's the scapegoat.

It's a matter of them saying, well, we'll get rid of her.

It's fine.

Go ahead.

And we'll keep doing what we're doing.

But I think this might be the beginning of the end for other folks.

I don't know what you think, Pete.

Well, I don't know.

I don't know if this is like a scapegoat.

And now we let someone go.

Now we can just go back to the business as usual.

Um, yeah, I was, I was shocked too, but we'll see, uh, what she, Trump has other plans for apparently moving her to be a special envoy for the shield of the Americas.

Um, we'll see if that happens.

But this, uh, Mark Wayne Mullen, former MMA fighter, Greg, undefeated.

So don't even, he can take you.

He could take me and Dom.

He could probably take all three of us.

I mean, he's, he's made threats during a testimonies too.

He likes to fight the man believes in fighting default to solve problems.

He likes to fight.

And he threatened a union guy on the floor of the Senate.

And I thought, well, what is it?

And he went in like saying there needs to be decorum.

And MMA, when you hit a guy in the back of the head, you can still hate him, but you shake his hand at the end of the fight.

And the Senate has none of that.

We backstab all the time.

And then he threatens to fight a guy on the floor.

And I'm like, what are you going to do?

Are you going to go fight every illegal alien?

What is your plan?

Well, no, I mean, when it comes to undocumented, he's just going to tell them, uh, arrest them at all costs and just keep, keep doing what you're doing.

Just try to be nicer about it.

I don't know.

But like Mark Wayne Mullen is a college dropout, not a person who doesn't have a background in this kind of work.

He is not, again, not qualified, but here we are.

Mark Wayne, one word, one name, Mark Wayne Mullen as, as the, as the proposed, as I guess, probably the acting.

DHS secretary, we'll see if they even put him up for confirmation.

Cause this is what Trump did in his first term is he fired a bunch of people and made everyone acting so that way he can fire and hire as he sees fit and doesn't have to get confirmation from the Senate.

We'll see what's going on there.

But yeah, it's, you know,

yeah.

And, you know, we should, we should, uh, Dom Wayne Lee, what do you think about that?

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

But that was weird.

Threatening to fight a guy.

I'm just like, come on.

There's no place for that.

And Bernie Sanders on the video we had was telling him to sit down.

He said sit down, both of you.

It was one adult in the room.

I will take away your desserts.

No one will get dessert.

I believe in some socialist tendencies here.

Democratic socialism.

But no dessert from anyone.

If you don't sit down and finish the conversation like adults.

That's my Bernie Sanders.

I don't even know if it's offensive or not.

I have no idea.

How would it be offensive?

I don't

know.

I have no idea.

We've got two more big things to discuss.

Yes,

we do.

After a very short break, we're going to read text tonight.

We're talking overrated bands.

We've got the popcorn pick of the week.

There's so much going on here.

I can't stand it.

This is Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on Nightlight on the Civic Media Network.

My dudes.

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.

Great to have you here with us on this Thursday night.

Greg, I used to call Thursday nights the Christmas Eve of weeknights because it's a glorious weekday, right?

I used to call it Friday Eve and there

was that

thing of like...

I feel like you feel more as an adult than as a young person, but like when I get home from work tonight, be like, oh, it's basically the weekend.

It feels like,

you know,

it's, it feels nice.

I love it.

I love Thursday nights.

It makes me feel so good.

But also I will say this, I have a job here at Civic Media that I truly adore that makes me not feel those Sunday blues that you get around say three or four in the afternoon.

You're like, oh, work tomorrow.

I don't do that anymore.

It feels really nice.

I'm totally with you.

Very well said.

So we've got a couple more things we've got to get to here.

Two more stories.

If you please.

Big story.

We don't know what number it is.

It's just a big story.

We're going to roll with it.

This one coming out of Muskego.

This has been going on for over a year now.

And the story was actually published a little

less than a month ago, but I thought it was very much interesting to talk about, which is a mosquito post office chalk case.

I don't know if you guys have heard about this, but a gentleman named Jim Brown, Brown low was arrested last year for what was going to be criminal damage to property.

And essentially what happened was is he wrote something on the sidewalk in chalk outside of a post office where

You know it said it said remember January 6 every November November, you know availing himself.

I believe of the First Amendment free speech well Over this past year.

It's been gone.

It's gone from him being arrested for criminal damage to the charges being dropped then recharged with disorderly conduct to this past week or last past month saying finally

No, he is, he is free to go.

He is not, he is not guilty of any of those crimes.

And he represented himself.

And I know it sounds like a little story, but to me, a man being arrested, charged, recharged with a different crime for writing in chalk outside of a U S post office, to me is a very scary thing because I in no way shape or form saw the damage harm.

or how they try to make it seem like inciting possible violence through people seeing this terrible message in chalk.

But he is,

he is, he charges, he was found not guilty.

He's good to go.

Jim Brownlow, Brownlow of Muskego still able to exercise his free speech

here in America.

Middle school librarian wrote in chalk and this is, these were like the charges.

And this is a quote from what the what they charge him with engage in violent abusive indies and profane boisterous unreasonably loud conduct or an other disorderly conduct under circumstances in which the conduct tends to cause or provoke disturbance So here's the thing he wrote in chalk on the sidewalk like Greg just said if you are if you don't if you support the fact that January 6 people were pardoned And that they were just tourists and there was nothing terrible to happen.

Why does this bother you?

Yeah, you know, when people say something that I disagree with, I'm like, yeah, have at it, whatever.

But what he's saying, if January 6 was not a crime, and you support the pardons, you should be okay saying remember January 6.

What's the harm?

What's the conflict there?

Remember that great day?

We took a field trip to the Capitol.

Oh, man, it was so much fun.

Yeah, they're not saying I disagree with you.

They're saying, hey, take that off.

Well, okay.

I also think that if this would have happened, say this year, nothing would have happened.

I feel like that, you know, when he was, when he was charged early last year, there was a lot of bad, I mean, still bad vibes, but I just feel like they were really trying to nail people for speaking out.

And again, all he wrote was remember January 6th, every November, no swears, no cuss words, no.

Dirty pictures he drew.

It was those words.

It was one, two, three, four, five words.

And it was a year of his life in the courts because he was simply speaking his mind as protected by the First Amendment.

But I think more people should know about this because it's the possibility matter for me.

If they can do this to him, who else can they do it to?

That's why I wanted to bring it up.

Yep.

Well said.

And looking at colorful chalk on the sidewalk has never made me want to beat someone up.

Well, don't write anything.

How does that feel?

How's Mark Wayne Mullin feel about Chalk?

I mean, that's what, you know.

I'm not fighting Mark Wayne Mullin.

Neither am I. You'll win.

All right.

All right.

In the time we have left, let's get the last story, please, Dom.

The third big story.

Pete, the people have spoken and what is a chain restaurant doing for them?

Well, the people have spoken because

Chick-fil-A changed the formula of their waffle fries.

Yes.

And Chick-fil-A is wonderful and their waffle fries are delicious, but they started putting pea starch in the waffle fries.

P-E-A, the

vegetable.

Yes, we have to clarify.

Yes.

And then I guess it made the fries too crispy or something and people went nuts like people do over little things.

Wait a minute, who's complaining about crispy fries?

Is that the world we live in now?

We're complaining about crispy fries?

People that like soggy fries.

I don't know.

I mean, it doesn't make sense to me though.

Like I, first of all, if you can notice the difference, if something's egregious and very different and you can tell, I get it.

But this is like of all the things to be upset about, you know,

they announced that they, it was a slight adjustment to make the fries quote, stay crispy or longer.

That feels like you're doing something for me.

Correct.

It, you know, it, but.

People are an influencer and fashion entrepreneur, express disappointment over the change.

I don't know.

Are there fries going woke?

I have no clue.

Why is this a bad

thing?

The only thing I could think of, and this wasn't mentioned any of the posts I saw that it's an ingredient or it's a preservative.

And if you don't want preservatives, okay, I get that.

I don't know if it's good for your bed for you.

It's pee.

Peas are good for you.

Peas are great.

You could go either way on that one, but I don't know.

But I think this is, you know,

I have nothing to compare it to.

I don't eat a Chick-fil-A enough.

It says, I love soggy fries.

Please, we are begging you, someone wrote.

That's what we're, okay.

All right.

That's what we're worrying about in this world nowadays.

Cool.

I don't have the

palate enough to tell you when a place changes their fried ingredients.

Maybe we'll try it live on air.

How about that?

Maybe we do something grand.

Dom Wainley, ladies and gentlemen, called the day long.

Different middle name.

We are coming right back to talk gas prices and gas buddy.

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He's our Southeastern news reporter.

Always getting the great news here for us folks here and down where I'm at.

I'm in Radio Park here in Racine, but he'll be coming on in the second hour, giving us popcorn picks as well as probably talking about bands that he may think are overrated because that is the question of the night.

What rock star or band is seriously overrated?

You can drop a comment on the live.

stream, you can put, uh, you can text us either through your phone or through the civic media app.

We are here for you.

Are we here for the people, Pete?

We are here for the people.

I am here for the people now.

I got my, uh, yeah, I'm here for the people.

And we got, uh, we, we have a, uh, we have an offer from our pal, Mike Clemens to jump on for a few minutes and talk about Bob Harlan.

If we want to do that.

So maybe you can do that at some point.

Is he on right now?

He can be.

Would you

like him to be sure?

Yeah.

Tell him to tell him to give us a call.

Write this very, very moment.

All right.

We will talk about because we were going to talk about that just the, just the three of us, but Mike Clemens is our sports reporter here at civic media talking about the announcement from green, from the Green Bay Packers and the Harlan family that former Green Bay Packer president and CEO Bob Harlan has passed away today following a brief illness.

He was 89 years old and Bob Harlan.

I mean, we'll get more from Mike in a moment, but he was a legend.

He was a.

God figure in Green Bay Sports.

I just texted you his number down.

Why don't you give him a call and we'll, uh, it's a landline and we'll bring Mike on.

Um, yeah, he was, uh, you know, like the, uh, they won a Super Bowl or two under

him.

They won two Super Bowls under him.

Yeah.

If I'm not mistaken, I know, I know stuff about sports.

Uh, he, he took the reins in 1999 and he retired in 2008.

So he had one because they won that second Super Bowl or that.

second Super Bowl in my lifetime

back

in 2010 or 11.

And that was the third time I'd seen them go to the Super Bowl because I remember I grew up in the 80s.

Those were dark,

dark days.

He, he's the one I want to say, Greg is responsible for finding Brett farm as well and bringing him up here from the, uh,

okay.

Well, for giving, I guess, um,

I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding.

All right.

Do we have Mr. Mike Clemens on the phone right now?

All right.

Joining us right

now is Civic Media's very own sports reporter all over the globe, Mr. Mike Clemens.

Good evening, Mike.

How are you today?

Hi, Greg.

Pete said to hear the passing of Bob.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, thanks for reaching out, Mike.

This was great.

And it's great to have a guy on the show here who really knew about Bob Harlan and his legacy.

What can you tell us about him?

We were just talking about how he brought Brett Farr of to Green Bay, I believe.

Is that correct?

He brought a lot to Green Bay.

Bob was from the Wauwatosa area in Milwaukee, and he started out at Marquette working in the PR department, and then he went to the St.

Louis Cardinals in the 1960s working in PR.

The last time I saw Bob, he came to a training camp practice, and we had this wonderful conversation.

About those Cardinals teams which you grew was on there for a couple of years remember that but in 1967 I said what was Bob Gibson Mike Bob Gibson was his great fastball pitcher of the 66 67 Cardinals right and a Hall of Famer and all that but just this you know mean national six or seven then and I had his baseball card, but he's kind of legend he goes

He was an ordinary dude.

He was not a nice man.

And you know, I had to figure out a way to go between him and the manager to say, you know, he's such a star force, but he's got to lighten up because when he went on the mound, he was an angry guy.

Bob Hart, that's the kind of guy that Bob was.

I mean, he got it.

And eventually he became a part of the Packers staff.

And then when the Packers realized they needed to do less of this committee and have a stronger president, he took over as president of the Packers.

Well, he makes this brilliant move to bring in Ron Wolf as a general manager who moves on from Lindy and Fonte, hires Holmgren, and says, I've got this quarterback down in Atlanta that's currently riding in the bench of the Falcons.

We need to bring him in.

So the Favre and the Holmgren and Reggie White era comes in in the 90s, and they rebuild the respect of the team and make them a winning team and win that Super Bowl.

And then, you know, he makes the tough decision to move on from Mike Sherman years later and hired Ted Thompson.

And they get that second Super Bowl when they're Mike McCarthy and the move for Aaron Rodgers and to move on from Farb and all those kinds of things.

The other thing that he did was so important was he realized sitting down with all the other owners that if Green Bay's not careful, they're going to fall way behind.

So he had to go to the state and ask, you know, for the state to help out.

in terms of stadium expansion about two thousand two two thousand three or so for

and

frankly that little media office I've got in the stadium you give credit to Bob Harlan because he took care of us in the media and he was also famous for when you called the front door desk at the Green Bay Packers and said Bob Harlan they'd say one moment and they pick up the phone Bob Harlan it went straight to him wow tremendous guy that way

I'm sure we're going to be hearing even more about him over the next few days.

I mean, it's a huge loss to the Packard organization, the Packard family, and from what it seems the family is stunned by too, is a brief illness.

But you are listening to Mike Clemens, who is Civic Media Sports reporter, talking about the passing of Bob Harlan, former president and CEO of the organization.

I mean, I'm sure you have story after story, Mike.

Yeah, you know, and let's not forget too, his son is Kevin Harlan.

Kevin is one of

and do the best, but at the same time, keep the doors open to the fans.

Thank you so much, Mike for calling.

We really appreciate you checking in with us, giving us a brief overview.

Like I said, more talk about Bob Harlan throughout the days.

That was Mike Clemens, Civic Media Sports reporter here.

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And then we close out the entire show with a handy tip from Pete and Greg.

So don't go anywhere.

We're having a good time right now.

Pete, how are you doing?

I'm doing okay.

Uh,

technical gaffes aside.

I think I'm, I think we're rocking and rolling.

It was a fun first hour talking

to

Greg.

And if you missed the first hour, folks, you can check that out in podcast form at civic media.us and, uh,

What do you say?

Should we reintroduce?

Before we read some texts, I think we should reintroduce our question of the night.

Let's talk about

the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

What band is the most overrated in your opinion, folks?

What do you think?

Yeah.

Or Rockstar.

Rockstar or band that is seriously overrated.

You can let us know on the text line at eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five civic You can also drop us a comment on the app text us over the app or if you're watching the radio on YouTube Facebook or Twitter you can drop us a stream comment Let's start with this dream Greg because Dave.

Yeah says the doors I mean, this is all subjective.

There's no right or wrong answers, but

Half of these I'm reading.

I'm like, Oh, I love them.

That's

what you're going to get

with a question like this, right?

I can see the I can see why someone might feel the doors are overrated.

I feel like, you know, the timeframe, I grew up in the 80s and the 90s.

And I feel like there was a great deal of of kudos flowers to the doors.

And granted, they're a good band.

They made some good music.

But I don't think they're as great as everyone says they're I'll definitely there are songs I'll listen to like peace frog I'll always listen to peace frog, but it's just not a band where I'm like, you do you understand the doors man?

No, I don't it's fine.

It's fine.

Yeah, I mean, I don't they're not in my top five bands.

I love LA woman I love some of their songs, but I get that Dave Sidney politics as kings of Leon interesting and you too I disagree about you do

not accept that as an answer.

I think that's wrong

I disagree with that.

I think U2 is a fantastic band.

I do too.

And here's the thing about U2.

They have the same four

dudes have

been together

since the late seven since they were like 15 that I don't think that happens.

That's

there's not a lot of bands that still do that.

I mean, I'm trying to think right now of bands that still have all like all of their original members.

I'm sure they're out there and they're just escaping me right now.

But yeah, yeah, you two still, I know that they tour with a different drummer, but Adam are low.

Larry Mullin Jr.

still plays in the studio, but I think he's like kind of done with touring, but who knows?

I mean, it's still those four guys though, and the band is like going on 50 years old.

So it's, I don't know.

I've seen them.

It's an amazing show.

I love their music.

I didn't care when their album showed up on my iPhone.

I let that go.

People still talk about it to this day.

But whatevs.

3-2.

It's still my favorite Super Bowl halftime show right after 9-11 with

all

the theater they put into that.

And streets have no name, which is why I love it.

But you know what?

It's fun.

It's a fun discussion.

Daniel Berry Sports Highlights on the stream says, Happy Thursday.

What's up, everyone?

Hello, you tell us Daniel.

Good to have you, buddy.

Good to have you.

Brett in brown deer.

Welcome back, buddy.

Good to have you back on the show.

He says listening on WA UK journey worst band ever.

Wow.

Go to a bar around 11 o'clock on a Saturday night and scream that out loud.

See what happens next.

Ooh, baby.

I don't, I'm not a journey fan.

I

I will say this right now.

At my wedding, I told the DJ no journey is allowed and people were upset.

I'm like, deal with it.

I'm paying for it.

You're not.

I like journey.

I like their hits that I like who's now I don't like like some of the and I mean don't stop believing is a great song But it is probably the most overplayed song like when I first heard it loved it learned how to play down the guitar But now it's everywhere new generations have adopted it is their anthem.

It's a little overplayed.

So it's hard to

disagree with that, with that text as well.

Also, I want to thank Greg and Waukesha who texted in earlier telling us informing us breaking the story, if you will, about

Bob

Harlan.

So that was, that was great.

Greg also goes out a couple of things with Greg.

Greg texted in a few times in the beginning of the show.

First of all, I love you to death.

Greg, I was never in the band, sweetheart, tripwire.

That was not a group I was in back in the day.

And he also went on to say there was one other thing too here.

He put on, uh, Oh, did

Can you erase text messages?

I don't, I thought.

Oh, here it is.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Here it is.

So we also went on to say, uh, overrated band artist, at least in Wisconsin, Pat McCurdy.

He goes on to say, McCurdy came to my Catholic music camp back in the day, wasn't impressed with him then, not impressed with him now.

And Greg, I know I was at that Catholic music camp back in the day.

I remember that show.

I played bass for him on stage.

Yeah.

It was, they needed a bass player.

I could play three notes.

It's fine.

But.

I mean, he

was at that show where you played with Pat McCurdy and that just all came

together on this where Greg and I met.

I've known Greg for about 30 years now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We, we, yeah, we came up.

So yeah, thank you so much for getting in touch with us.

Also really quick.

Uh, I just wanted to group these together because who knew?

Uh, Christian Eau Claire and who was the other person?

Uh, Nick in Marshall said kid rock is the most overrated rock star.

I don't disagree with that.

I don't like, I just, I don't even know if he's overrated.

I just don't like his mute.

I don't like him personally, but that's really not what it's about.

There's a lot of rock and roll stars that I probably wouldn't like personally, but I don't know that kid rocks overrated because he hasn't, he has hits in his own little stratosphere.

I

don't know.

I mean,

I mean, that's, it's, it's, um,

His music is boring in my opinion.

His music to me is always a guy trying to be the coolest guy at the bar and you're like, yes, we get it, Bob.

You get it, Bob.

Yes, you can play guitar.

And he samples all the time and he got sued for doing it.

Yeah, I mean, but then the rap game, the rap game dried up on him and became a rock star.

That's what they do when, you know, ask Machine Gun Kelly.

Who else?

Let's see here.

Monica

Mount Horror.

So it says PSY that did.

Gangnam style I forgot about that song.

Oh, yeah, sigh.

Yeah, I mean That's okay.

Yeah, I that song was fun I listened to it as many times as I needed to and then I was done with it But yeah, I can understand that That song can be very very kind of a

one-hit wonder too though, right?

Oh, absolutely, but

Still to this day playing stadiums and they love him.

So do your thing, baby.

Anna in Madison listening in says, I think Gene Simmons and his band kiss are overrated musicians.

I completely agree.

I think kisses an overrated band.

I said on the, the, the text, not the text line, but the post that you made, I said that I think that the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys, and here was the T's Elvis overrated.

Wow, and I'm going for the big hitters like I'm going for the Titans of music and rock and roll and I'm like, no, I don't really enjoy any of them.

So Sure, that is

well, that's a gutsy.

Look, I love a controversial take when it's we're talking about stuff.

This isn't really that important.

That's the fun of the whole thing, right?

So yeah, I can live with that.

I said I said, I don't even remember who I said we've got Let's get to the social media.

Oh, I said Banjovi and

my

Jovi

I think Bon Jovi is just, you know, a couple tunes you tap your toes to, but I just never, I

just

think it's fine.

But sometimes people mention them in the same breath with Springsteen.

I'm like, what are you on?

Like, come on.

I think it's the New Jersey thing, you know?

Yeah, probably.

But when I watched their documentary, that it was like a four part documentary basically centered around John Bon Jovi and his voice trying to be saved.

And I didn't realize how many

multi-platinum albums they put out.

Like

usually

it's like, you know, they put out an album, then they put out another album and then people are like, ooh, they're really good.

Then they put out the album that defines their career.

And then it sort of slides down from there.

They put out like five albums in a row that sold huge.

And I mean, I don't know.

I personally feel like, I don't know if I'm in the same place as you, Pete.

They're fine.

There are songs in there.

They're good.

I enjoy, but I'll never turn off Wanted Dead or Alive.

That'll be a tune I always listen to.

I like

that first guitar.

Look, I'm not saying I hate them or anything.

I just feel like I just don't need to keep hearing about them.

Like, like I feel like Springsteen, just to compare them again, has been putting out new music his whole career.

And he's five years younger than my dad.

And he's still doing three hour shows in Bon Jovi.

I feel like they're kind of riding on the whatever.

It's a good argument.

But I don't totally disagree with you.

John from Madison in the 608 says Dolly Parton.

Okay.

Whoa.

What?

I don't understand.

Okay.

That's just, that's, uh,

that's more controversial than Elvis because who

doesn't love Dolly Parton?

I

don't understand that one at all.

Tom

Appleton says Van Halen is overrated.

I, I can understand that point too, man.

I can totally understand that point.

You know,

I think it's when we over intellectualize certain bands.

That's when it becomes a thing of like, look, they're great.

They're a group or it's, you know, the Beatles.

Yes, they did a lot of great things, but I understand if someone says it's four dudes from Liverpool and it's a pop outfit.

I understand that criticism, but Dolly Parton dude, come on, man.

Daniel listening in on a WMDX and a Manasha says, a grateful dead, boring 20 minute noodling around songs, bored.

I understand that point too, but I love that too.

I love, I love jam bands that know how to jam correctly versus a band that's like, Oh, it's one, a guitar player and three to four other people who are just like supporting them.

But

we talked about that, Greg.

And

I, we kind of, I don't think we totally disagree, but I, to me a lengthy.

guitar solo can ruin a good song it's like I get it you know how to play the guitar that sounded good for about a minute can we get back to the lyrics and the melody now you know

I I think it's how you interweave the jamming it that's how if it's if it's a 30 minute guitar solo then yes I understand it but if you if it's guitar bass and drums and everyone's doing their thing and they're having fun then it's more entertaining I get that but

30 minutes, you need a beating.

Tom from Hartford says, Bob Dylan, I don't disagree with that.

Greg, what do you say about that?

I agree.

I like Bob Dylan's Nashville stuff, but I don't really like, I don't, I don't worship at the altar of Bob Dylan.

Yeah.

Our pal Chris Casper says, I really love like 12 of their songs.

They ain't no Beatles.

Did I miss it?

What are we talking about here?

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know if I saw something.

We missed

another text from you, Chris, but we'll find it.

Then we got Daniel from Manash.

Oh, you read that.

I'm sorry.

Are we caught up?

Oh, we got a couple of Facebook ones.

Let's see if we can get to these before the... I said Michael Bolton too.

I

don't know why you think he's overrated like it's not like he's I mean that to me he's not big enough to be overrated I think he's beloved by people but he's not like Topping the charts and no one's saying like Michael Bolton is my inspiration He is the reason why music is the way it is.

I think I think you just don't like Michael Bolton I think people do say that

though, and I

don't you're right,

but you're right

He might

not be overrated because he shouldn't even be rated Wow He

just outs

no he does

He shouts Michael Bolton shouts Just saying dude, you know, I don't know I just this is this sounds like old man shaking your fist at the wind man was like

where my garbage cans I didn't like him when I was in college.

Yeah, understood Sheila Rosenberg Seidel says kiss.

Okay another one for kiss and then hers might be your sister Sarah Jean says

Take that back.

Okay.

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Mr. Stewart, Jay Waddles.

Hello, fellas.

First

time with Greg.

I'm

glad

you're here.

This

is Greg.

It's wonderful.

I'm, I'm happy to be here.

I'm very excited.

I am really, if folks, this is one of those situations where you need to check out the live stream because Stuart is bringing the nighttime vibes of, let's talk about music and let's

talk about movies.

The quiet Stuart here on civic media.

Oh, it's good to have you buddy.

We, um,

You know, it's, uh, we're excited to get your pick after the news.

But right now, do you have a band or a pop star or someone you think is overrated?

I

do, but I think it might help to start with who is rated.

You brought this up before.

How can

you be overrated if you're not really rated to begin with?

And I thought

a kiss immediately.

But I mean, so let's go back to the rock and roll hall of fame past five years.

Bad company.

Already rated overrated not rated enough.

I think they're not rated enough honestly because bad company not getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was a big deal for a long time Cindy

Loper where do you stand on Ms.

Loper?

Lover love love a few of her tunes, but I can't say I own her whole library Rock and

Roll Hall of Fame.

I mean She wrote some a couple iconic tunes time after time girls just want to have fun.

Those

are very that song

or performed it

Yeah,

to cover it's

a cover.

I got a who

say

WWE Hall of Fame.

She was part of like the first WrestleMania.

Wasn't she?

Yeah.

First or second.

I can't remember exactly when

score.

It was kind of on MTV leading up to WrestleMania.

I think to get that going.

Okay.

A couple more here to see if they're rated overrated sound garden.

No, I don't think they're

overrated.

I think they're great.

Yeah, me too.

I'm with you.

Oh, Foo Fighters

love them

love them.

No, they're I think they're I think they are no worthy of being in the rock and all they're not overrated All

right, so some of mine and Pete I've been listening you're not gonna like this Springsteen Give

me

Johnny Krueger all day long buddy.

Oh my

god.

Give me John

Krueger melon camp all

day

with Springsteen on the shelf.

Oh

You know, is it too late to find a guest for the popcorn pick of the week in a few minutes?

Nope.

They're locked in.

This is a contractual obligation.

If we don't do this, we get sued by

vague popcorn.

How is he

overrated?

I

mean, I don't dig

too

deep.

I hear too much about it.

And there's so

much Springsteen.

He's

the greatest American songwriter there is.

Okay.

Okay.

Let me stop.

Okay.

Exactly.