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It is time for act two of tonight's Monday version of Nightlight with Peach Wabba and Greg Bakke.

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If you missed the first hour that was fun.

Dr. Horowitz fascinating love talking to her.

I love science.

Yeah, we've got

This is gonna be fun too at 620 folks one of my favorite Madisonians Victoria Davis will be here.

She is a columnist or a writer I should say for the Capitol Times and she does a lot of freelance work as well She is immersed in the world of animation.

So we'll talk about all that stuff with Victoria.

She's a lot of fun That's at 620 our question of the night Dom I think we should just go crazy here and reintroduce the thing.

What do you say?

Let's do

it.

Okay

What's your favorite song that involves a day of the week?

I went with I picked a couple Greg.

Yeah, I went with rainy days and Mondays by the Carpenters,

okay

like it and I love the song Saturday nights all right for fighting But somebody said on the text line Friday.

I'm in love, which is another one.

I'm a big fan of the cure but Robert Smith Did a song did a version of that song with Olivia Rodrigo during concert

And I don't know really much about Olivia Rodrigo, but it was awesome.

He's like

her idol, apparently.

And it was really fun.

So there's, I guess I just gave three.

You

have one?

I love Saturday in the Park by Chicago.

I really, really love that song.

What else did I have here on my list?

Well, yeah, Blue Monday by...

New order.

New order.

Yep.

I love it.

And I love the

12 inch version, all seven minutes of it, where it's like, it's two minutes and 19 seconds before a single word is spoken.

But I do really love that song.

And then of course, Pleasant Valley Sunday, because I love the monkeys,

y'all.

Love that.

So that's like one of those songs that just when it starts, you're not turning it off.

And I

love

Blue Monday, I kind of forgot about, but I love New Order.

One of my workout tunes when I work out once a month is.

Uh, bizarre love triangle and same deal.

It takes, it's got like this four minute lead in and then it just kicks in.

They're great at that.

I love those.

Yeah.

I like, uh, Dom, what about you?

Do you have a favorite song that it has a, uh, a day of

the week?

Yeah.

Greg, you might not like this, but it's Thursday's child.

Um, yes.

Why

wouldn't I like it?

Why wouldn't I like it?

David Bowie.

Oh, okay.

I was like, I was like, well, yeah, I love David Bowie.

Why would I not like that?

I was, I was.

Did you think I didn't like Bowie?

I didn't think you liked David Bowie.

I'm totally on mute.

Oh my goodness.

I never, where did, where in the annals of civic media did I give anyone that impression that I didn't like?

I don't know.

Okay.

Here's the deal.

Love David Bowie.

This is Aaron's office.

Memo sitting in the studio.

This is Aaron Zahmer sitting in the studio.

One time I asked Greg before a show if you liked David Bowie or what he thought about David Bowie.

He said, a little overrated.

And so this is my fault for the confusion.

Sorry.

I told Dom you said Bowie was overrated.

So blame me.

What?

I would have

never

have

said.

You

might have been

joking too, right?

This is slander.

This is a trick to take me down.

I shan't be.

I find, I don't, you're a music guy, Greg.

And even if you don't love David Bowie or he's not your favorite, I would have trouble, I would have issue thinking you said that.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I love David.

David, I love David Bowie.

I love, like, yeah.

I don't know.

I can't imagine a world where I must have been sarcastic or something.

Uh, maybe it was, it was bizarro Greg in the studio that day.

No idea.

Evil twin or just annoying twin.

Not so much evil, just really irritating,

irritating twin.

But yeah, I totally, I love David Bowie so much that back in the early 2000s, he had his own thing called Bowie net, which was an ISP.

So you signed up and you got your internet service through this Bowie net.

which

ended up costing

me $2,700 because they had some shady business dealings.

He didn't, he had nothing to do with it.

He just put his name on it because he was all about like new technologies.

It was the company itself that was terrible, but yeah, no, that's- He's

gotta take some of

the blame for that though, I think.

Yeah, he's fine.

Well, he's dead, so it doesn't matter anymore, so.

He's off the

hook.

Aaron Zommer is interesting that he weighed in then because he says Blue Monday by New Order, also a great, another vote for Blue Monday.

And he says absolutely iconic synth lines.

See, that's music industry jargon.

I kind of get it, but I like when Zomers goes inside baseball.

He's great at it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

It's very, it's very, oh, God.

I got another Pleasant Valley Sunday.

I just love that song.

The monkeys just take me back.

It's just, it was, they're fun.

So it was my first concert.

I love them.

Yeah.

Um, Zomers also says, I have a nice rocks glass that says get nutty in Butternut, Wisconsin

from

when Greg was up there on a show tour.

with some other than hosts.

Okay,

that's good.

That was a lot of fun.

That was that's when we learned that's when we experienced butternut and we experienced Park Falls and Hayward and just some lovely people up there.

who just really took care of us, including our very own Darla up there, as well as Big G, and then just great people in the community too.

So we had a really good time.

Sounds like I missed out on one heck of

a young Christian Singles road trip.

In the 608, 608 just says, we love you both.

Well, thank you, Greg.

I think they

were

referring to earlier in the show when we were talking about how I wasn't there.

Maybe.

Oh, maybe.

I mean, that's, yeah, but we'll let's.

Yeah.

Uh, 608 also says very British of you, me, yellow submarine.

Love it.

Great one.

Although wait a minute.

That does not have a

day.

That does not have a day of the week.

Although

yellow.

No.

Yellow is not a day of the week.

What's

your

favorite day

of the week?

Yellow.

Oh, I love yellow.

Monica from Mount Horriban.

The 608 says Pleasant Valley Sunday.

Another

one

that's on the text around the social media responses too.

She says,

I

wonder if Conrad knew Carol King co-wrote it.

I was getting after Conrad one night because he's playing too much Carol King.

So Monica

has a

laser memory.

That is impressive.

Well done, Monica.

And then we've got 815.

Oh, Dom, you got to do the honors here.

This is a very special text, near and dear to your

heart.

Can you repeat what he just, oh,

oh.

815.

The

815 number, yes.

Question of the day, Friday, I'm in love by the cure.

This was my mother.

This was my mom.

Did you have any

idea

that your mother loved the cure?

That makes your mom cool.

I had no idea.

So now I'm really hyped.

I'm going to call her after the show.

And you know what I'm going to say?

Thank you, mom.

You'd be like, hey, mom, who's the cure?

But you're not reading the most important part of the text on if you scroll down just a little bit

Chicago from south side of Chicago.

No, she said I love this one and your show

Oh, thank you

Christine.

Yeah, that's very

sweet

Uh, we've also, uh, Christine from the South Side of Chicago.

There you go.

Your mom's a South Sider Dom?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I am

too.

We're all, we're all South Siders, you know, so.

But you got the, uh, well, you already gave her a whole phone number.

I think I can give the area code.

Don't, don't do that again.

We are originally South Siders too.

That's interesting.

Bridgeport.

Way, going way back though, I'm talking.

Uh, 920 says Friday, I'm in love.

The cure.

Great tune.

Lots of fun.

And, uh,

What else do we have here?

Peter in new London says, if you count the Sabbath as a day of the week, I'd go with Sabbath, bloody Sabbath.

That's a good, that's a great song.

That's a great song.

I love black Sabbath.

I love those first, I love those Ozzy years.

Really?

Yes.

I go with the basics.

That's it.

Grab a copy of masters of reality.

Actually just grab the first like five black Sabbath albums.

They're all like 30 minutes apiece and just

kickback with some headphones and listen to just huge guitars, gigantic drums, just wonderful stuff.

Sounds like sweet leaf.

I mean, come on now, sweet leaf.

Cool.

I love it.

Uh, Barb listening in Waukesha listening in Waukesha while listening to WAUK says, hi, Pete and Greg.

I'm enjoying your show.

I love Saturday night by the Bay City rollers.

Also the happy days theme song.

And that always reminds me of the movie.

Uh, so I married an axe murder when they like turned down the Bay City rollers, the soccer game.

And he should have said the football match that he didn't.

He said the soccer game.

Oh, that's a good catch.

Look at the size of that boys.

He

It's

like

Sputnik.

Spherical, yeah.

Pointy in many directions.

This was funny from earlier in the show.

608 again.

608, you need to identify yourself, I think.

Yeah.

So we can give you proper credit.

But 608 says MJP, listening online.

Formerly listening on WFHR Wisconsin Rap.

I know Ashland and Hayward.

I love them both.

Please stop.

Please stop playing good places against each other, even though Spooner blows.

OK, first of all, first of all, watch the language, MJP listening online.

Second, nobody was doing that was Tony on the live stream who started like a fight between Hayward and Ashlyn.

I'm like, I'm not trying to start any of that guff here.

I love them both.

No fights.

And David Bowie is amazing.

David Bowie.

Good call.

You read bar from Waukesha.

Let's make sure we don't Cam says we're all gonna call Dom's mom.

Please don't camp.

No, you don't

social media on Facebook We've got let's see Ellen Martin says not necessarily my favorite but a favorite days of the week stone temple pilots works Yeah, Daniel Wheeler says first song that pop into my head was the theme song to happy days another vote for happy days

where they

say every weekday, right?

Robert Bro on social media says Saturday in the park.

Great tune.

Love that song.

Greg Bach, favorite.

Vince Moranto, comedian Vince Moranto, very funny gentleman says, Boomtown rats, I don't like Mondays appropriately.

We had some live stream too.

Stacy on the live stream says Monday, Monday, and by the mamas and the papas.

I like playing that song by saying like, that was Monday, Monday on Tuesday, Tuesday here on your station for whatever.

And then Tony also says he said earlier, said Manic Monday.

My kids sing it often, which is very funny to watch and listen to a song written by Prince.

For Susanna Hoff.

For

Susanna Hoff.

That's, I forgot about that.

That's a

great tune too.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a great tune.

And he wrote it for her.

He wanted her to sing that solo, but she's like, no, I'm in a band.

And he was like, okay, I guess that's Prince.

Do I like

it better knowing Prince wrote it or am I, because I like the, I like the bangles.

Well, yeah, I mean, he wrote it for her.

He didn't write it first and perform it.

He wrote it for her and said, here, be a, be a star.

And she's like, I'll be a star with my band.

And he said, trats.

I've got

to kind of respect both sides there.

I

mean, that's fine.

Yeah.

We've got some more texts.

We'll get to probably in the last segment.

But keep

those

texts coming, folks.

What is your favorite song with a day of the week in the title?

Brenda Grant-Socia also says Manic Monday by the Bengals.

And our pal Rich Lucasio says Pleasant Valley Sunday, Greg.

Boom.

The

Monkeys.

Cannot not love the Monkeys, friends.

They are a fantastic group.

Awesome stuff.

We are coming right back on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Radio Network with Victorian Davis people.

I dare you not to tap your tongue.

It's a great song and it's a cure.

Fantastic stuff.

This is Peachwaba and Greg Bach, folks.

We are here co-hosting Nightlight on the Civic Media Network.

And it is so great to have you here on this Monday as we get through.

It's going to be nice this week, Greg.

I don't know if you knew that.

I didn't.

Honestly, I've been looking at a lot of stuff right now.

I didn't look at the weather at all.

Yeah, actually, we got some, especially this coming weekend, we got some fifties and sixties maybe happening.

Seems like we're getting out of winter.

Could

it be possible?

You're not as weather centric as me.

Weather does not affect your mood.

It seems like you're just like the role with whatever guy.

No, I'm

like, I'm like an old man.

We're like a.

Directly affects me for about 30 seconds.

And it's usually

just

if it's snowing and I'm like, Oh, come on.

And I go back to my life.

But yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't get it.

I don't get affected by the weather too much.

I mean, I will, I'll, I'll, I'll quote, I'll quote garbage.

I'm only happy when it rains, but you know, it's fine.

That's fine.

That's a nice one.

It's a really good song.

That's like a rain.

Yellow is like Tuesday rain would probably be Wednesday.

So we can equate.

somehow that too.

I like

how you're bending your own

rules right now.

I totally am.

It is my pleasure, folks, to welcome to the show one of my favorite Madisonian writers who has an inside look at the world of animation and she's also going to talk some Oscars with us tonight as well as what is happening in Madison.

Some really fun shows coming up.

We'll hopefully cover all of that with our next guest, Ms.

Victoria Davis.

Welcome, Victoria.

Hi, everybody.

Great to have you here.

How are you?

I am good.

My family just walked in with Culver, so you might hear some excited child screaming in the background.

I'm glad you haven't bailed.

Huh?

I'm glad you haven't bailed and just ran for the year.

I

texted my husband being like, save my food for me.

All

those

fun facts will be gone otherwise.

Yeah.

Well, let's jump in.

Actually, before we jump in, do you have a favorite song about a day of the week?

I don't have a favorite, like I have an artist that has a day of the week name in it, which has a favorite song

of mine,

which is, I thought I would mix it up.

So I like Lemonade by I don't like Mondays, which is

a

Japanese pop band.

And I really like that

song.

I knew you were going to pick something obscure because your area of expertise is so far above my head.

But meet Greg Bach, Victoria, part of the Nightlight family now.

Hello.

Hello.

How are you?

I'm doing quite well.

I'm looking forward to this conversation because I love animation, but I feel like there's so much animation out there that I don't know where to begin.

It feels very overwhelming.

So to find an expert to come on the show and talk about it is going to be very fun and kind of like get me started because I would really love to know more about it.

So this is perfect conversation.

I will try to live up to the expert title.

I hope I can.

She smells cheese curds right now, folks.

Bear with her.

So you have this great... Okay, so you told me about the Annie Awards and I have to admit, I didn't even know what they were.

I had to Google it and it's just kind of an affectionate name for animation awards, the Annie Awards.

I love that.

Were you there or did you just write about it and how many of those films were you familiar with?

You're kind of immersed in that world.

almost all of them I was familiar with because we do this we're very intentional at my job at animation world network about covering as many of the films as possible before Annie like before preliminary voting starts for the awards because we're trying to give them all a bit of a spotlight so very familiar with all of them I wasn't in person unfortunately this year because my family and I are planning a trip abroad this summer and we had to make decisions about financial

But next year, I really hope to attend in person.

But yeah, there was a very, I think, highly anticipated win where K-pop Demon Hunters swept the stage with, I believe it was 10 awards.

I think they

won almost

every category they were nominated in.

And then Less Known was Snow Bear by Aaron Blaze, who's a Disney animator, and he did his own animated short, that one best animated short at that.

at the awards.

So

two

very well-deserved wins and it was cool.

I feel like K-pop Demon Hunters is one of those things that people wanted to dislike because it's Netflix or whatever.

And they're like, nope, I listened to it.

Songs are really good.

Animations really good.

I really, really love that.

Have you seen it?

Have you guys seen it?

Oh, you haven't seen it?

You gotta see it.

Like everyone just was incredulous and then fell in love.

And you cannot deny how fun it is.

It's just...

Really fun.

Yeah.

It's a vortex.

I

actually, my

friend had tried to get me into K-pop stuff for years because of the fee.

I mean, I work in animation.

I'm in the anime world constantly and she's like, oh, I can totally get Victoria into K-pop and it never really stuck.

And then I watched that movie and I'm like, oh, okay.

I mean, we're gorgeous now.

You caught me.

I'm embarrassed.

I haven't seen it yet.

But it beat out some heavy hitters, Zootopia 2, which is crushing.

It's been in like the top five for 10 weeks at the box office and then Bad Guys 2.

So it is an absolute phenomenon.

I have to check it out.

Yeah, it really, I think it was one of, it was an extremely obscurely named movie and everyone thought this is going to be a very niche film.

And it ended up just becoming this phenomenon that nobody expected.

They were on Saturday Night Live the

other day.

I

mean, it's just it's it's gone bananas.

They were the first to win.

Like they were they were top of the billboard charts for a long time and broke all kinds of records and went platinum.

I mean, it's gone.

It's gone bananas.

Wow.

Victoria Davis is our guest.

She writes for the Capitol Times and lots of stuff in freelance capacity.

And she is also our animation expert here at Nightlight.

And I realize we have an animation expert.

And you are an expert.

Victoria at least when it comes to us.

We respect your opinion We're gonna do a very sure we're gonna break for the news and when we come back I know Greg has some questions about Gorillaz another thing I didn't know anything about a short film by the band and it's I was looking it up earlier today It looks really cool And then we'll delve into some Oscar talk to our question of the night is what is your favorite song that involves a day of the week?

Matt Harper, my favorite rock rap artist in Green Bay, says Ice Cube Friday.

Pat Francis says waiting for Wednesday.

Lisa Loeb.

And Boris Hamilton says, Wednesday week, the undertones.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

I'm getting some good activity on this.

All right, we're coming right back, folks, after the news.

Victoria Davis is here.

She's going to go wolf down some cheese curds, and she will be back.

She looked at him.

She just looked at him.

She's like,

you're over there.

They're calling your name, Victoria.

We're coming right back.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Back.

Bach, good God.

The Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwabba and there is Greg Bach, Mr. Bach.

This is Nightlight and it is great to have you with us on this Monday night.

We are talking to the wonderfully talented Victoria Davis who writes for the Capital Times and she does a lot of work for the animation.

What does AVN stand for again?

Animation World Network.

A-W-N.

There we go.

A-V-N stands for something way different, Pete.

Was that the Borno Awards?

Yeah, it totally is, buddy.

I got shut out by them again, 50 or in a row.

So we've got Victoria here.

And Greg, I'm excited because I know you want to ask about gorillas.

So why don't we start there?

Because I'm curious.

This is a phenomenon, and it's so cool, based on what I just learned about it today.

Well, Gorillaz, for those who don't know, was at one point like the side project of Damon Al Barn after Blur broke up.

He had a bunch of other things.

And he did this band that was all animation.

He didn't want to be on the spotlight.

He didn't want it.

And it turned into this whole industry for himself.

And I mean, I don't know your thoughts on the videos, but I feel like Gorillaz puts out some of the most beautiful, amazing music videos.

But now they've come out with a film, correct?

Yeah, they it was it's their first because they've they tried to do a feature film a few years back which never saw the light of day just you know Logistically didn't quite work out, but this one they were like we want to do something longer form.

Let's make it a short film Let's reach out to the line animation studios in Australia or in London To make it happen and the lines done some amazing work But this is I think my favorite thing that they've ever done and not just because I'm super biased because I love gorillas Yeah, but this was really cool too because I

I didn't know this until after I had done the interview and I was writing the article doing some background on them.

But this particular short film is obviously it's looped into the album that came out The Mountain on the same day.

But it's sort of an exploration about life and death following the deaths of both the guerrillas founders' fathers.

Which I didn't know until after I had done the interview.

And that's the things like for me, we were talking about this earlier is that, you know, gorillas is, if I'm not mistaken, like I looked this up really quick here, but they are going to be nominated.

I mean, they're going to be eligible for the rock and roll hall of fame.

Like in like this year, they're eligible this year.

And a lot of groups who are around for that long,

you know you can say like oh their first their first years are great or they have this comeback album that's amazing but guerrillas in my opinion have never led up on their material and the fact that they made a movie makes perfect sense for everything they've ever done and I just I'm very much looking forward to seeing this so I can't wait.

It's on YouTube.

You can watch it right after the show.

Oh,

okay.

Great.

It came out on YouTube on Friday.

It came out with the release of the album, but it is on YouTube for everybody to see.

It is gorgeous.

They were digitally imitating 2D cell animation where it's hand drawn and everything.

to get that look right.

They actually did do 2D hand drawings and actual watercolor backgrounds to assist with that.

So a lot of it is hand drawn and hand done.

And it's just, it's gorgeous.

It's very reminiscent of 60s anime, 2D animation.

A lot, you know, the, the Jungle Book is a parallel.

A lot of people, but I actually, to me, it also kind of reminded me just like,

atmospheric wise above like apocalypse now which the line was like oh perfect that's kind of the vibe of the whole video

so what i mean for those that aren't aware of this band as i was not it's a virtual band but they have concerts where they have a big screen and then they actually have dudes playing

so

is that

Are there a lot of bands like that?

I'm totally unfamiliar with that world.

And I'm kind of tip my hat to the band members that actually play, but give the credit to what we're seeing on screen in the animation.

Well, the band is the brainchild of Damon Albarn and Jamie Howlett.

Like they're the two people who are.

And I feel like Damon is in charge of the music and Jamie is in charge of the art.

But I mean, that was the whole crux of it is like Damon came out of this.

like monumentally worldwide famous band blur where they were like playing soccer stadiums.

And he's like, I don't want that anymore.

So how about I just do the music and I'll send a, I'll send a fake band on tour.

And that's how we'll do.

And he actually, he tours with them, but he stays in the shadows.

I think I, oh my God, that'd be amazing.

I would love that.

I'd love to play music and then never be known.

Oh, so great.

Yeah,

Jamie was one of the directors.

It was Jamie and then two of the line animators that directed the short film because they always, the line, the line also did like they're, they did a horizons music video for them and then they did, they've done a few music videos for them.

Yeah.

Joe on the stream says, love gorillas, their Beck collab, Valley of the Pagans is my favorite single.

So there you go.

Thanks to

Victoria Davis and Greg Bach for educating me on this.

I know so much useless music.

Greg, do you have a favorite song of theirs?

Oh, period.

Oh my gosh.

Well, there's one that I cannot stop listening to all the time lately.

I mean, it's a single, but it's Cracker Island.

I just love

that song.

That's my

favorite.

Because it's just, you cannot, like, not

sing along.

It's the beat is, it honestly reminds me of Blue Monday and as much as as soon as the song starts, I'm like, Oh, here we go.

It's just a super good song.

Thundercat is on it.

And I like, it's a great dance track.

But I mean, there's just a pile of songs.

There's that I really, really enjoy.

But that one, I just can't stop playing.

Yeah, that's my favorite too is cracker island.

I listen to it whenever I travel and I'm just like in the airports because it's just like a nice.

It's a nice walk to the next.

That's so great.

Victoria Davis is our guest here on Nightlight.

Victoria, you have articles everywhere.

Tell people if they want to get familiar with your work, where should they look for you?

You can go on my website, which is victoriedavisdepiction.com.

I have a lot of my kind of...

Favorite articles up on that website, but then I also have a link to all of the recent articles that I've done To keep it more up to date for people who want to see the more recent stuff you can go on the cap times website Which is where my local stories are and then animation world network awn.com is where all of my animation stuff is

That's so great.

And full disclaimer, Victoria did a great article about Nightlight about probably over a year ago now, but that was that was really fun to read.

And that's when I became a fan.

So

I like Pete, I like you.

I didn't know her before that.

That's what I'm saying.

So let's talk Oscars.

We were talking about the film Frankenstein, which I just saw last week and I thought it was outstanding.

And honestly, I can't believe I have not heard more about it.

Like some people have seen it.

It got pretty good reviews and people like, yeah, it's good.

But I can't believe people are raving about it.

I love the interpretation.

I agree.

I mean, I love everything Guillermo del Toro does, but I also have always loved Frankenstein.

It's always been one of my favorite stories.

And so I knew once he had signed up to do a story, or he had done to do an adaptation on it, that I was going to be interested.

And then my husband, I went to go see it.

And we both were like, this is our favorite film of the year.

Hands down.

It's gorgeous.

He just feels like one of those directors where

when they say they're going to take it, it's like, like when, when they said they were going to make a Barbie movie, I'm like, what?

And they said, Greta Gerwig, I'm

like, okay, like if they

say the thing and I might be, I might be hesitant, but when they say who the director will be, I then will lean back and be like, Oh, you know what?

They are going to approach it in their perfect way.

And

And yeah, a Guillermo del Toro Frankenstein movie.

It's also on my big list that I'm gonna be putting, I'm knocking out this weekend of Oscar movies, but yeah, that one my wife really enjoyed.

And there's like a little bit of trust there.

When you hear that he does it, you're like, okay, great.

And it's

Jacob Elordi, a younger, hotter Frankenstein.

I was shocked that he did so.

I mean, I knew him from Kissing Booth and I was like, really, this is the guy that you chose, but he killed it.

Absolutely.

Oh, he's

great.

He's everywhere too now.

I had no idea who Jacob Elordi was at first.

I thought he was like, I thought that was like a, like a fragrance.

Elordi, like something like

that.

It will be now.

Sydney, Sweeney soap and Jacob Elordi cologne.

What else have you seen Victoria when it comes to the Oscar nominees?

Obviously lots of the animation stuff.

There's the Elio from Pixar.

There's the K-pop demon hunters that we talked about before, which is just everywhere.

One, the.

won like 10 Annie Awards, and then Zootopia 2 from Disney, and then a couple lesser known ones, ARCO, which was one that Natalie Portman helped to direct and produce, and then Little Omelie or the Character of the Rain, which was also from France, which we did a story on at Animation World Network, and that was, I think, one of my fates.

If I had to pick one outside of K-pop Demon Hunters, that's definitely up there, for sure.

Okay.

Are those, are those those lesser known ones?

Are they available just on streaming or is there a special place people can go?

Like, is

there

a place where

people can watch anime, animation and anime like this?

I

believe, I believe both Arco and little Omelie are on Amazon to rent.

I believe.

Um,

and then you obviously K-pop on Netflix.

And then I believe Elio and Zootopia are both on Disney plus, I think.

Well, I think they are.

Yeah.

I know Elio is cause I felt like that was the film.

Like it felt like, you know, you were in the animation world.

There was a time and it may be COVID.

I have no idea.

But like when a Pixar movie came out, there was no not hearing about it.

And I feel like Elio really flew under the radar and people were like, wait, there's

a

Pixar movie that came.

Well, Elio, what is that?

And, but people enjoyed it.

People liked it.

Like the same thing with, what was it?

Elements.

I think it was elements as well.

came and kind of went, but people really liked it.

But there's like, that didn't happen a few years ago when Pixar movies came out, they were events.

Like you,

even if you weren't going to

see it, you knew they were coming out.

And it's just surprising to me now that Pixar has movies where you say, Oh, that flew under the radar.

I think it, I think part of it could be, and I could be wrong about this, but I think the partnership where you've got Disney Pixar now instead of Disney and Pixar, I think you've got.

Often two films at the same time that are getting pushed ahead At the same time and and it can get difficult to give both the the PR attention that they need

Maybe all these animated movies kept Tron Aries from being good

Sorry

I think you're on to something great.

Victoria Davis is our guest.

She writes for the Capital Times and many other places and publications and she does a lot of work for AWN, the Animated World Network.

Um, so I want to ask you real quick about sinners, but I also want to, there's a really, a couple of really cool shows coming up in Madison that we talked about during the break.

But what is your overall take on sinners?

Kind of, kind of an animated film, even though it's not just because of the set decoration.

Yeah.

Well, you've got, I think we talked about before how there's, it's like both Frankenstein and sinners.

It's like two Oscar movies duking out for the Oscars right now because I, I, I wasn't expecting sinners to be as

Like monster movie charge doesn't was and I actually really liked that it was but the whole time it's a kind of a slow burn leading up to this massive Massacre

Yeah,

but it's but it's like you've got I mean the music in it is

electric.

I couldn't get enough of that.

I kept rewatching the the dance scene where they're kind of exploring all the different eras of dance and genres of dance and everything.

It's it's like which is it's supposed to be an ethereal experience and it really did a good job of expressing that and it's right as these monsters are like looming in.

I mean the whole thing felt very uh is it's unbelievable unbelievably well directed in my opinion.

Hey, this has been fun.

We're going to have to wait and get to the upcoming shows another time because I know I can hear your stomach growling, Victoria.

And I know you have culvers waiting for you.

Thank

you so much.

I can

smell it through the stream.

Thank you so much for your time tonight.

Let's do it again

soon.

Thank you so much, you guys.

I appreciate you

going.

Victoria Davis, check out her work in the Capitol Times.

We are coming right back to wrap things up, Greg.

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I should say like for me.

I love Saturday in the park by Chicago and everyone else is wrong.

So, um, when lose zero sum on this game, baby Pete, you had some more texts though that came through.

Yeah.

get just a few more here.

Cam from Appleton says Gorillaz also crossed over with Powerpuff Girls, Jack Black and Bruce Willis.

Nice.

Thank you, Cam.

Tony, the trucker in the 608 says Pete and Greg Almond Brothers Stormy Monday played loud while sipping a good bourbon.

There you go.

I have totally rediscovered the Almond Brothers probably about six months ago, and I cannot get enough of them.

Absolutely love the Almond Brothers.

Great.

If you like them, you'd probably really love Tedeschi and Trucks, which, you know, that's Derek Trucks, his uncle was in the Almond

Brothers.

Derek was in the Almond Brothers for a moment, too, an amazing slide player.

So if you like that, probably love them as well.

And I think the Almond Brothers...

Do they still tour?

Is it like a version of themselves now?

I don't know.

It's just like

a bass player and some other guys.

But there are really great bands out there, man, like them and Oteel Burbridge's band.

He was in the Almond Brothers as well.

There's like all that kind of music.

There's still great groups touring right now where you can just go and watch really great musicians jam out.

It's

fun.

Yeah, that's fantastic.

We've got just a couple more here.

Trig Rood says, Tom Waits, the heart of Saturday night.

Think about that song too.

Thank you, Trig.

Jim Denny, I think this is Jim from Appleton, says, Goodbye Ruby Tuesday, The Rolling Stones.

Fantastic.

Ian on social media says Friday on My Mind by the Easy Beats.

Maria Marisa, I'm sorry, Marisa Ballastrieri says Saturday's Child, The Monkeys.

There you go, Greg.

Boom.

Eric Ellarson says, Friday, I'm in love.

The cure.

Great song.

Great text, everybody.

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Yeah.

Tomorrow we'll be back five to seven p.m.

As we always are and we will be welcoming in the first hour Henry Redmond who is a staff reporter for the Wisconsin examiner talking about Peefus minute mitigation bill that was finally passed after years and years and years and then in the second hour We'll be talking to Kristen to me a stand-up comic from Chicago a friend of the show a friend of mine and It'll be a very very very fun time.

So as always

Yeah, as always.

Now, let's wrap it up with a quick tip of the evening.

Tip of the day.

I keep on messing up.

Tip of the day.

Tip of the day!

So, Pete, I don't know if you knew this, but today, March the 2nd, is National Old Stuff Day, which

is

here to tell us to look through our stuff, because we're coming about the spring cleaning times.

People talk about spring cleaning.

I don't know about you.

My wife and I have spent the past year going...

small project by small project, getting things cleaned up and sorted out and getting rid of stuff.

How do you approach that when you do it?

When you're at your house, you're like, I got to clean this room or clean this closet out.

How do you do it?

I like to just, my method is when it drives me crazy, I just finally do it.

But I do have a funny story.

My friend Pat Francis loves organizing things.

And when we lived in LA, we had this garage that was just basically a storage unit.

And he came over to help my wife.

organize it and my wife is a teacher she's a bit of a pack rat and she or was she's much better now and Pat looks over and he says hey uh Mary do you still want to keep this box full this box full of old bibs so

I mean

the kids were way past bib time that's our method

That's,

that's, yes, I understand that.

And for me, and the reason why I'm glad brought, I'm glad Dom brought this up because for me, it's been about going through these, like, you know, I did a big garage redo last year.

I've done quite a few closets, like this, this spring, my wife and I are both going to tackle the basement, like the, the laundry room portion of the basement where all of our storage is.

And my tip of the, my tip of the evening, the tip of the night, tip of the day is simply

Do not get overwhelmed by the project.

Look at what you need to do.

Break it up into pieces.

And if you can do it over the course of a few days, get it done, you'll feel so much better than trying.

Cause like this is my thing, Pete, is I would look at my garage every Sunday morning, go, I gotta do that today.

And I wouldn't do it because I'm like, that's going to take too long.

It's two o'clock in the afternoon.

I'll do it later.

And instead of what he did is I cleaned my garage over the course of five days, six days for like two hours at a pop and got it done and felt way better.

So

That's my tip.

National Old Stuff Day, go through your stuff, get rid of it, but do it in a way that doesn't overwhelm you or else you'll never get it done.

And then three years from now, you're like, I gotta clean out my closet still.

Ugh.

Baby steps, right?

Yeah, baby steps.

I totally agree with that.

I can't always do that sometimes when I start something.

Yes, yes.

I'm a little obsessive and I like to, but I totally get that.

And I wish I was more like that.

And the problem is when you throw stuff out, you don't know if it's gonna, like I threw out vinyl records.

30 years ago, like, and I threw them out, donated them.

And now they're back.

Like, what do you get rid of and what don't you?

Well, I mean, that's, that's where you got to be honest with yourself.

Final records, I get that.

Clothing, probably get rid of it, you know.

Get rid

of the bell

box.

If you, if you've packed something and it's moved with you two or three times and you've never unpacked it, you can probably get rid of it.

That's what I say.

I'm, I'm, I'm a big proponent of ditching the old as long as it doesn't have sentimental or monetary value.

Get rid of it.

It's fine.

I've still got I've still got we are the world t-shirts.

That's what I'm dealing with

here.

Hmm.

Okay.

Well, I don't know

Reg's cut him up make him into regs.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly We aren't the world Pete.

Come on.

That's what we know now.

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Remember tomorrow we're talking Henry Redmond from the Wisconsin Examiner as well as Kristen Toomey, wonderful comedian from Chicago.

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Pete, say good night.

Good night, Wisconsin.

Good night, folks.

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Here's Pete Schwabba.

Dude.

And Greg Bach.

Dude!

Well, hello ladies and gentlemen.

Happy Monday everybody.

Welcome to Night Lights with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

We are both here tonight.

We weren't on Friday.

Greg flew solo.

How did that go,

Greg?

I didn't like it.

I honestly didn't like it.

You missed

me.

I did.

I did.

I enjoy the banter.

I enjoy the banter.

I mean, I did solo for a while, and that was fun, but I really enjoy the banter.

I was Pete-less or Schwab-less on Friday, and I just... No, no, thank you.

No, thank you.

But you had the kid Dom leave there.

What happened, Dom?

Yeah, I don't know.

You know, I was trying to fill your shoes, Pete, and, you know, it's gonna take me quite a few shows to overtake you.

I'll name

it.

I'll say this right now.

If you go back to the transcript, even more than try to fill your transcripts, try to take them.

This is

like a night

light with night with night light with Dom Lee and some dude.

Don't listen to him, Pete.

Don't

listen to him.

Here's what I'm hearing.

I was very missed and you guys have warmed my heart on this day when we we left on Friday or Thursday.

It was kind of a weird.

It was kind of a weird weekend.

We'll get to all that in just a moment, but.

I went to Stephen's Point.

I gotta tell you, in our fair state here in Wisconsin, Stephen's Point is a delightful community.

That's beautiful.

It's

absolutely beautiful.

Yeah.

There's lots, especially, yeah.

There's all.

Southeastern Wisconsin is great.

Don't get me wrong.

Madison is great.

Green Bay is great.

But there's a whole bunch of cities around this state that have great things to do, whether they're college towns like a Stevens point or a butternut that's super tiny with a lot to do.

I think that it behooves anyone, especially if they're living in Wisconsin.

Cause I know we go out around if you're listening on the app, but if you're listening to us in Wisconsin, make a trip this summer or just like a few days away.