Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach go down a late-night TV rabbit hole, debating the all-time greats and tipping their caps to legends like Johnny Carson and David Letterman — while also arguing about who actually stayed up late enough to watch them back in the day.

Then Martín Alvarado from the Madison Public Library drops by and casually blows everyone’s mind by explaining that the library isn’t just about books — it’s also helping people file their taxes for free. Yes, free. He also gets into the local AI buzz and what it actually means outside of scary robot headlines.

Pete and Greg toss around a couple of intriguing reads, including Empire of AI and Yesteryear, mixing big-tech drama with a little social commentary — because nothing says “light entertainment” like existential questions about the future.

They wrap things up with NFL Combine talk from Mike Clemens, who checks in from Indianapolis with the latest on 40-yard dashes, draft buzz, and grown men sprinting in spandex for their professional futures.