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Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who's had a paper route for 25 years but never collected, Pete Schwabba.

Hey, welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

How are we doing?

Great to have you here tonight.

Happy Wednesday everybody.

We are jamming through this Super Bowl week as they call it.

The Super Bowl has almost become like a holiday in this country.

So I think it's safe to say Super Bowl week.

This is an entertainment show and the Super Bowl is certainly entertainment.

So very excited about that and a great show tonight.

Some really fun topics we're gonna discuss tonight.

We'll get into all of that.

We got a great question.

And some fun things I found that I'm very anxious to discuss with all of the listeners tonight.

It'll be really fun.

All of you are going to have chances to weigh in.

The phone lines are open as they always are here at Nightlight at 855-752-4842.

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Great to have you here.

Sitting in tonight for the Kid Conrad Krieger is Aaron Zommers.

Always fun to work with you, my friend.

How are you tonight?

doing well, always fun

to work with you also.

And you know, I'm shocked that at this point, the Super Bowl is not considered a national holiday.

I mean, I'm sure it would be if it wasn't Sunday.

How sad is it?

Like, honestly, like in this country, you know, where I feel like election day should be a national holiday, it's more likely that Super Bowl Sunday, well, it's already, we already have the day off, but it was during the week, people would probably rather have it as a national holiday.

Oh, you think

so?

Definitely.

I think the majority of Americans, if I had to guess, would probably rather watch the Super Bowl than vote.

Which is unfortunate.

Just not even acceptable on any level.

Why not both?

You know what?

We should play the Super Bowl at the voting booth.

I was just going to say, have a big screen TV set up over, you know, I don't know, like America's Most Wanted or something like that.

So how are things in Madison tonight, Aaron?

What's cooking down there?

What am I missing?

Well.

Not a whole lot.

You know, by this time of day, usually people have head home, and that is the case today.

One of the only ones here in the studio, as far as the out-of-doors, you know, it's warmer than it has been.

Still chilly, but we're not talking zero or below wind chills.

For sure.

Now, it's freezing up here.

In northern Wisconsin, we are still dealing with this.

I did have this.

This was kind of fun today.

I love when weird things happen to me in my hometown and I had to go pay our mechanic.

We have this gigantic car called a Toyota Land Cruiser and I had to go, they had did some work on an oil change.

I went to pay while I'm on my way there.

I'm trapped behind this driver who in a 25, it's a side street.

I was taking a shortcut.

She's going 10 and I'm like, you know,

I got a life to lead.

Can we pick it up a little bit here?

I'm kind of tailgating because I'm looking for a place to pass her and then I'm like, well, I don't want to freak her out.

She finally pulls over a little and I pass her and she's looking for an address, obviously.

I didn't make a big deal.

I gave her a wave and I kept going.

I go pay the mechanic.

I come back 15 minutes later.

I'm on the other side of town behind the same car.

On a bigger street this time, but she's holding up traffic.

At one point, I almost wanted to motion her over and say, do you need some help?

But it was so bizarre that it was the same car in the same driver on opposite sides of town

I don't know.

Maybe maybe the address was just completely wrong the first time.

I'm not sure

It could have been like yeah, like let's say it could have been like Vulcan Drive instead of Vulcan Street Where am I getting Vulcan from?

I

don't know.

I can never seen a Vulcan Drive or Street There should be though

But I have many driving mishaps up here in Marinette, Wisconsin.

You get a wide array.

We've got a very older population here.

So you get a lot of older drivers.

You get some young idiot drivers.

We have a huge parking lot out by our mall where kids with pickup trucks go and do

donuts.

And there's no, it's just all parking spots from like the 80s when they needed more space.

And now there's no lanes or anything.

an absolute fiasco free for all.

People just driving over old parking spots, it's insanity.

So that's what I'm dealing with up here, Aaron.

What do you think about that?

It's pretty crazy how different everybody drives around the state.

Like living in Madison, way different than Manitowoc where I grew up, which is probably a little closer to Marinette.

You know, you got the people meeting up in the Walmart parking lot, which just probably sounds like it's a little more used than the one that you're talking about.

a little less safe to be doing donuts.

That's

insane.

But it's just bad driving too.

It's people not adhering to any kind of lanes or whatever they just drive.

If there's no car park there, they'll just drive over it like it's part of the lane.

But I think I cut you off.

Please continue.

Oh, I was just going to say, I always have to think very carefully when I'm driving back home in Manitowoc because these speed limit signs are suggestions here, not as much in Manitowoc.

But in Madison, people just go.

So they'll nail you in Manitowoc.

They're not messing around.

Oh, maybe.

I mean, I did get pulled over once.

I got a warning.

This was before I lived in Madison, but it's no Rosendale or anything where, you know, they sell merch for their driving tickets.

Awful.

Rosendale, like years ago, I got a ticket there.

They don't even give you, like when they say, when the speed limit goes from like 55 to 35, they expect you to be at 35 within like 20 feet.

Or they'll they'll get you and that's how they got me and I and then you try to say something to a public servant And they kind of think you're giving him attitude.

I'm like, I'm asking Legitimately a question like how was I supposed to get down to that speed limit that quick?

I got two kids in the car It would had to like leave a skid mark on the road or something.

It's terrible Yeah, following the law should not necessitate getting whiplash No, or any kind of danger for that matter That is the voice of

Aaron Zommers, ladies and gentlemen.

Always fun to partner up with Aaron and have him produce Nightlight.

Lots of fun on the show tonight.

New sports and weather coming up in just about 18 minutes.

But our guests tonight, check out these guests.

I love this guest lineup.

Arthur Ursink will be here from American, American, Wisconsin Foodie.

Wisconsin is the American state.

Arthur will be here after the news.

We're gonna talk about his upcoming new season, the 16th of Wisconsin Foodie that drops tomorrow.

And then Arthur and I will, he can tell you what's on tap, what you can expect this season.

The show is just an Emmy-winning, outstanding piece of television shot right here in Wisconsin, celebrating local food and community.

It's just outstanding.

So we'll talk to Arthur about that at 535 and maybe dabble into some Super Bowl snacks.

He's always got some fun, healthy suggestions.

If you want, if you want healthy Super Bowl snacks, not everybody does.

Steve Segrin will be here at 635.

Steve is an actor, artist, comedian.

If you've seen the Godfather of Green Bay, he played Ralphie the bartender.

He's been on The Office.

He's been on Friends and all kinds of fun.

credits and Steve started this list on social media Aaron a couple years ago with songs I never need to hear again and it just kept growing and adding to it so periodically he comes on to nightlight and we talk about his list and these songs because they get stuck in your head so if you don't want bad songs stuck in your head you might want to turn the radio down for Steve's visit but you might not want to either because he's hilarious and we're gonna have a lot of fun with those with those songs and then

Did I tell you Sherry Shepherd was supposed to be on the show?

Yes today.

Okay, so her talk show got cancelled her reps emailed me the other night and said Terry her Milwaukee day got cancelled for a live show So she's gonna have to back out of the nightlight and appearance.

I said, that's fine.

You know, I get it Well as it turns out the next morning I read her whole show got cancelled.

So yeah,

that's

probably yeah, not in a very good place right now.

Anyway, so but

Sherry's great, but Mike too me.

My pal will be here filling in.

Mike is a TV host at WGN.

A very funny comedian and we will talk to Mike in hour number three.

So it's going to be a lot of fun.

We got great guests.

Right now, Erin, I think without further ado, we should get to our nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

OK, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

OK, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

All right, so on this day in history, Ace Ventura, pet detective, came out starring Jim Carrey.

So it got me thinking.

What is your favorite Jim Carrey movie?

I was not a huge fan of Ace Venture.

I thought it was funny.

I thought it had two or three big laughs.

But I saw it before I really knew who Jim Carrey was.

And since then, he has put together quite a body of work.

He's done hilarious comedies, some crazy dramas.

He's really kind of broadened his acting horizons, so to speak.

But let us know what your favorite Jim Carrey film is, and let's have a discussion.

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Aaron you got a

favorite Jim Carrey movie well first It looks like one of our people watching the radio is already weighed in Carol on Facebook says the mask Okay

You know I'm gonna open up here a little bit Carol.

That's a great.

That's a great choice and he was great in it My pal rich Jenny was also in the movie.

God rest his soul Aaron I don't know if I've told you this before my writing partner and I Greg Lee and I had a script called dream girl it was about

A character like Julia Roberts, the most famous movie star in America stalking a guy who manages like a steak and shake.

And she's in love with him because he helped her change a tire when she was driving across country in a rainstorm.

She loves it.

He's a normal guy.

They have a fling.

She goes back to Hollywood.

He swears to secrecy.

He says, I'll never tell anyone.

She says, please don't.

The paparazzi will ruin your life.

Well, she comes back two days later and says, I want you.

And he rejects her.

and she can't handle that.

She makes his life miserable.

So the script was called Dream Girl.

We were really proud of it.

We thought it was really funny.

It was like Notting Hill meets Fatal Attraction.

And Jamie Kennedy, the actor, was attached to play the lead role.

Jamie Kennedy decided to do the Mask 2 first, and sadly it killed his career.

And Dream Girl is still sitting on the shelves at Warner Brothers.

Why on earth would you follow Jim Carrey?

Yeah, that's not really, he's not a performer that you can outdo.

No.

Especially in a role he's already done.

So Carol, you are spot on with Mask.

That was a great movie.

Jim Carrey had a lot to do in it.

It was a really an excellent showcase of his talents.

Dave on the stream says Laces out.

I don't know that script.

I haven't seen that one either.

I'm not familiar, but I mean, I know it exists.

I can tell you that much.

Sure.

I believe you.

Thank you, Dave.

And thank you, Carol.

Mine is Dumb and Dumber.

It's not a sexy choice, but it's one of my favorite comedies of all time.

That's my favorite Jim Carrey movie.

I still haven't seen Dumb and Dumber, which I know I need to.

I'll have to watch

this weekend.

How about that?

You got to watch it, dude.

I'm telling you.

I know.

I like a lot of his other movies, though.

Like, you got to love How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

except

for that

stupid Dahudore song.

That's something that should be on my list of songs.

I never need to hear again.

But what was I gonna say?

The Truman Show is also a lot of fun.

Yeah, he's great.

He's great.

And in those serious roles, when he can tone it down a little bit, I think he's excellent.

So, all right, folks, we are gonna do a very short break coming up in just a moment here.

We've got new sports and weather, about 12 minutes away.

Tonight, we are talking

We're talking Jim Carrey.

So let us know your favorite Jim Carrey movie.

After a very short break, I'm going to tell you we're going to do our Olympic spotlight.

We've been focusing on one athlete every night who's competing in the games in Italy starting Friday night.

So that'll be fun.

We'll tell you who that athlete is coming up next.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Well, that is dramatic.

That is outstanding.

Aaron Zahmer's, ladies and gentlemen.

Working the board tonight.

Some Olympic music.

Do you like the Olympics, Aaron?

I do, yeah.

I'm always a fan of the Winter Olympics, personally.

I was just saying that the other night to Conrad that I think the Winter Olympics, for some reason, I don't know if there's more speed or more excitement or the games are more extreme, but I think I'm with you other than track and field in the summer.

I don't care about basketball as an Olympic sport.

I like basketball, but not... I think I like track and field.

After that, give me the winter games and the different sports.

I like all the different things you can do with skis.

You know, you got the slalom and everything, which is a fun thing to say as well.

I love

all the ski event.

Cross-country skiing doesn't really do it for me, but the downhill stuff, the biathlon, there's a Wisconsinite, the biathlon that we just talked about the other night.

Tonight's spotlight for our Wisconsin athlete competing in the 2026 Olympic Games in Italy, which start Friday night, is Jaden O'Brien.

She is a member of the Bobsled team.

What do you think about the

Bobsled, Erin?

The bobsled, that and luge are all the things that when I was a kid, I'd see that and be like, why is this an Olympic sport?

You're just going on a sled.

And then you get older and realize, oh, no, that's really hard and really dangerous.

It's

incredible.

Yeah.

I'm totally with you.

Like I would watch it and go, oh, they're going in a circle.

Whoop-de-doo.

But it's incredible.

And they're the, you know, the, I would say the challenge or the...

Danger in it is what makes it so exciting because even they're wearing helmets But they're going a hundred miles an hour on the luge and the bobsled is probably probably put pretty close to that, too Jadon O'Brien is from Milwaukee, Wisconsin Aaron and She is a bobsled her as I mentioned She's called a considered a as are all bobsled athletes a push athlete.

Have you heard that phrase before

I have not but I mean to be fair how else would you describe what you do there?

I mean you push off and

Sled

yeah, no it makes total sense.

I just never I've never heard that phrase before so I thought that was kind of cool her parents were both athletes She just made the team in August of 2025 which I think is kind of cool So she's obviously very good at she finished fourth with her partner in the two-woman Bob sled In Latvia, so that's kind of cool.

She's also a three-time pentathlon champ

of the NCAA indoor games.

Do you know what the pentathlon is?

No.

Do you?

Well, I'm guessing there's five.

I know pent.

Let's break the word down.

Right, right.

I know it's five sports.

I just don't know which ones they are.

But I googled it.

And apparently, this could be wrong.

This feels wrong.

But I think it is fencing, freestyle swimming, horse riding.

And then a laser run combining pistol shooting and cross country running Which so why

that's impressive because those aren't necessarily Olympic sports.

I don't think any of them are really so she's obviously got Multi talents,

right?

There are other pentathlons.

There's man.

This is interesting There's another one that is you know, 60 meters hurdles high jump shot put long jump and 800 meter run So it seems like that the first one I listed off is called the modern pentathlon

which is an Olympic multi-sport.

Okay, so you've got the pent, so we know there's five, but the Thalon can vary.

Yes, that is my understanding, yes.

That makes sense.

Good research, sir, buddy.

That was impressive.

How quickly you pulled that up.

So let's cheer for Jaden O'Brien.

I think that's exciting.

I think it makes the events more fun when you have something and you know a little bit about their history.

And, you know, it's one thing to say, oh, they're from Wisconsin.

That might make you cheer for them on its own.

But, you know, when you know a little bit about them, she's one of six siblings.

They're all, the whole family is athletic.

Like her parents were both college athletes.

Very impressive.

And she's a push athlete here.

Are you a push,

you're like a push producer though, right?

I suppose, you know, pushing the faders a little bit, but sometimes you pull them to go down.

Like, you know, it's, it's hard work moving these sliders that are designed to move quickly and easily.

Totally, but precisely there's there's precision, you know.

Yeah, absolutely I want to talk about this.

I saw this and I shared this with you earlier There's a grown man who on social media has announced he's gonna spend one full year in his bedroom And he's doing it to be healthy He's taking this time to eat proper snacks and work out, but he's closing himself off from the outside world

He's calling it the isolation year.

His name is skip voice.

He's 49 years old and he's trying to get healthy He doesn't want the distractions of the outside world or fast food or unhealthy food So he's gonna live in his bedroom for 365 days.

You think you could do that

Zomers?

I don't think so because when I got COVID and it was still new and we didn't really know what was going on I isolated myself in my room for just you know, 10 days and

Maybe it would be better if I had a treadmill like this guy did but my butt hurts so bad He's he started January

10th.

He's three weeks in and He's gonna do 365 days.

Here's the weird thing though.

He is married and his wife is serving him food So maybe it's a vacation for the wife, too.

I don't know anything about this skip boys.

Maybe he's not a very pleasant person

I don't know.

I mean, I pulled up the live stream earlier today just to check it out.

And I can confirm there is a man in the room by himself.

He was sitting with his feet up on the wall and playing on his phone.

See, that's the chat.

I think I could stay in a room for a year if I had my phone.

Oh, if I can just pull up any movie in human history and watch it.

Right.

But he's got a bathroom.

He's

got a virtual trainer.

And he says, this isn't about shock value.

I wanted to create a controlled environment to step away from constant stimulation.

Reestablish discipline and rebuild habits around health focus and accountability Okay, I hope it works.

I don't hate it.

I got to be honest.

I think it's admirable in a way So I'm gonna maybe I'll try that somebody not during the show, but maybe another time Hey, we are coming right back folks new sports and weather is next so we will be back with Wisconsin foodies Arthur Urson This is Pete Schwabba and nightlight Aaron's armor is riding shotgun.

We'll be right back on the Civic Nadia radio network

That's pretty bad.

I feel like I need to explain.

Steve Seager will be here in hour number two, and we are going to be talking about songs we never need to hear again.

So Aaron is having fun with our bumper music tonight and prepping us for Steve's appearance, I think.

That was a great one.

This is Peach Wabba in Nightlight.

Glad to have you here, folks.

Aaron's on.

We're sitting in for Conrad tonight.

Our question of the night is what is your favorite Jim Carrey movie?

So let us know and we will read your texts on the radio.

Very excited to see all the choices.

He's got quite a resume and there are very few actors you can actually say what is your favorite movie where even if you're a casual fan you still know his body of work.

So we'll read those as well.

But right now there's a great show we have here in Wisconsin folks and now you can see it in parts beyond.

um thanks to its success it's called Wisconsin Foodie and joining me now to discuss this fantastic show and uh you know maybe some Super Bowl snacks too we'll see how it goes uh that are not so detrimental to your heart either is my pal and Wisconsin Foodie creator Mr Arthur Ersing hey buddy hey Pete always a pleasure great to have you back we've got a lot to talk about because um you've got some big news so we'll get to that in just a moment but first I have to ask you do you have a favorite uh Jim Carrey movie

You know when I was when you just said that it kind of the first one that came into my mind And I feel bad.

I'm probably leaving out, you know So many great Jim Carrey movies, but the first one that came into my mind is the Truman Show that's it's got to be one of my one of my all-time favorites and Yeah, like I said, I hate I hate that like I hate the favorite It gives me such anxiety to think of like what my favorite is because like later tonight I'm gonna be laying in bed.

I'll be like, oh, there was that one Jim Carrey movie.

God, I love that one so

I'm going with the one that came to my head first, because I was thinking about it earlier this week, and that's the Truman Show.

I love it.

That's a great choice.

And I was just kind of peeking ahead at some of the texts that have been rolling in.

And Truman Show is a popular one.

You can't go wrong with that.

That's a great choice.

How about a song?

Do you have a song, Arthur?

You never need to hear again?

I like all music, my friend.

I

encourage it all.

I'll take it all.

OK.

Even bad music should be celebrated.

Sounds like way of saying that.

There's something for everybody out there, man.

Very diplomatic.

Very well done.

All right, so let's jump in here.

You've got some big news regarding this great show, Wisconsin Foodie.

And before we get to the news, tell people that might not be familiar, although I doubt there's anybody out there since you've been on so long, but tell them about Wisconsin Foodie.

Yeah, so Wisconsin Foodie is a local program.

You know, I say that, but we're a regional program that is, you know, we call Wisconsin Public Television our home.

So that we're broadcast pretty much throughout all of the state, as well as right now, TPT, which is the public television station in Minneapolis and Twin Cities, as well as WTTW in Chicago.

So the show has started growing to a regional level.

And it's really just a show about the stories in our own backyard, the food stories in our own backyard.

We love to talk about the history of certain foods and really just tell the stories.

That's really big for us.

We look at ourselves as sort of more of a documentary show and something that gives a little bit more breath to the subjects.

That's a great description.

And I find when I watch it, I feel like...

It's one of those shows you can just have on and you feel like you're part of a conversation.

It's so mellow

and, you know,

food is very calming.

It's almost therapeutic to watch Wisconsin Foodie and I really tip my hat to you.

I don't know if that's something you went for when you started out or if that's a rhythm you found.

Did you know what it was going to be when you started out exactly or did you have to find your way?

No, I love that you you realize that or either that's that's kind of what that's what you take away from the show because that is really something that we try to bring that's that's kind of our calling card is that that intimacy

That's a really important thing for us is to make sure that we're bringing people in and people feel like they're part of this conversation or they're part of this family.

We want to slow things down.

In food TV and TV in general these days, everything's so fast.

Everything's so clipped.

Everything's two minutes.

Everything's 30 seconds.

Everything's just, you know, cuts our frantic and we want to slow things down.

I'm working on it right now where I think there's a shot that was like

you know 45 seconds I mean it's unheard of right but it's you know it's um you know it's something that um you know that we really take pride in and um and and more specifically this season alone this this was a really fun season for us because Luke and I decided that we kind of wanted to go back to the roots and uh and essentially the whole season was just

Luke and I shoot like I would do all the shooting and editing Luke would do the hosting and sometimes I'd give Luke the camera and let him do a little shooting but we thought that if we paired our crew down just to the bare essentials just us two that we could die we could dig deeper into these stories and uh and that was um that goal was achieved uh you know people

When you don't bring in a crew of 10 people and lights and all this other stuff, you can really break down the walls much faster.

And that's really what we try to do is make sure we break down those walls and get past any sort of nerves and just let people open up and tell their story.

Very well put.

And I agree with you.

Your show, you can breathe when you're watching it.

Because you want to see some of those cooking shows and the competition shows.

I love the pace.

of Wisconsin foodie and and that was very well said and like the fact that you don't have a huge crew in there you know people want content they want to be invested in your host Luke who's great the food uh the community everything that's

way more important to me than production value.

I mean, you got to make it look good, but you guys have just crushed it.

So

we try to do both.

We try to do both.

And, you know, as, as, you know, as the original filmmaker, which, you know, over time, I kind of stepped away and was more of a director, producer, occasional second camera.

You know, I had that calling to come back, you know, I really love the craft of filmmaking and, and, and shooting and editing and telling and storytelling.

So, you know, it was something that was calling to me and it was

something that I wanted to see, you know, if, if I can still, instead of yelling at camera guys and editors now that they didn't either get the shot or didn't, you know, put the, you know,

put the piece together the way I envisioned it, now there's nobody to yell at.

Pete, it's just me.

I just torture my own self that I didn't get the enough B-roll for this one shoot or I cut this thing together poorly or I didn't color correct it right.

So there's nobody to yell at except for me anymore.

But no, it was really fulfilling.

It's one of these shows that the audience gets to see sort of what we put out there.

the story is so much deeper with us in the moment there.

And it's really something that we're, Luke and I are really thinking about how we can show people, you know, even more of the show, like how we make the show.

And Luke and I interacting more, you know, behind the scenes because I think there's so much more there that gets left on the cutting room floor or people don't get to see because there's only one camera there.

So, you know, we're trying to figure out how to bring more of that experience to our audience.

My guest is Arthur Ursank.

He is the creator of the tremendous Wisconsin Foodie, a show that started here in Wisconsin on PBS and has grown to parts beyond because of its popularity, which is very exciting.

How are you?

You've had two hosts, Arthur, so far.

And how did you find Luke?

He seems to just completely, you know, accentuate what you were doing to begin with and

Was it hard to find a guy who knows a lot about food, but is also good on camera?

You know, I wasn't necessarily, I have to say, I wasn't really looking at the time.

You know, we had, the previous host, Kyle Cherick, was really actually, you know, pushing for Luke to be on the show.

Luke was a very sort of boisterous, outspoken, I want to say flamboyant in a way, chef from the Driflus area.

and you know at first I was a little apprehensive you know some of those types of characters can be sort of off-putting to how I like to tell stories you know people that want to just kind of preach and and and talk about themselves you know they kind of scare me off sometimes right I really you know I try to you know bring in this like midwestern humbleness and I just didn't realize but but I decided that you know

Kyle convinced me that we should go up there.

We should check him out.

And I agreed.

And, you know, Luke had me at like, you know, hello.

I just, I, you know, fell in love with the man.

He was, you know, he, we liked it.

You know, he was like a preacher at food church.

He, you know, he said all the right things.

He had the right energy.

He had, he had kind of everything.

And, and really as, as a producer,

Even with Kyle, the original host, he wasn't a trained host.

And that's really what I was looking for.

I want somebody that's not necessarily trained as a host, somebody that can fill that role and grow into that role, but doesn't come with all that baggage of being a host.

And that's what we've been doing with Luke.

When I found that TV is a...

TV can be a tough industry sometimes and sometimes you need a change and you need to go in a different direction.

When you've been on like 18 years, this is our 18th year we've been on.

Sometimes you just need to take a left or a right and

And I think the time came where I saw Luke as sort of that next step, the evolution of what we were trying to do.

Him being a chef was just an incredible resource.

And the energy and the passion he had for Wisconsin was unlike I've ever seen before.

And that's something that was just so seductive.

I fell in love with that immediately.

And that's just grown for him.

He's just a fantastic human.

He's somebody I call family.

And I love that guy and his family to death.

That's fantastic.

All right, Arthur, so I got it wrong.

16 seasons, I said.

It's 18 seasons.

Well, yeah, it's been 16 on PBS.

We had two seasons on commercial television before.

So just a little disconnect there.

But yeah, we've been doing it for a little while now.

So tell us about your new season.

It starts tomorrow.

We got you just in time.

I'm very excited.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, thanks for having me on the night before.

Absolutely.

the PR circuit here.

No, so Tomorrow Night is our first, is our premiere and I couldn't tell you, I couldn't premiere with a better episode.

We're featuring a spot called the Kinship Community Food Center and it's based out of Milwaukee and it's started off in a church in River West, the basement of a church and it was a group of people that came together to feed those that are in need of food.

from that time, it's grown into just this massive organization of energy and food and help in the community.

They've built a beautiful cafe over on Martin Luther King Drive that is making some of the best chicken sandwiches out there in Wisconsin right now.

It's just such an underrated spot, but this cafe they built, it's

It's kind of like there's a lot of big corporate offices in there, so it's this most gorgeous cafe you'll ever see.

They really focus on like salads and bowls, but like the chicken sandwiches, those are to die for.

So we start the show there, we check out the chicken sandwiches, we make some chicken sandwiches, but then they also have an urban farm in Milwaukee, and that farm produces...

all the food and all the produce that then goes into their food center, which is hosted, I think, multiple times a week, where the community comes out.

And it's basically, they convert this old basement into a grocery store.

And anybody that's in need can come down there and just take whatever they need.

They're cereal.

You have grocery stores that donate food.

You have all this beautiful produce that's grown there.

And folks that need a food come out and they fill up their bags of food.

And not only that, but they're cooked a hot meal that night as well.

And the meals are like, it's not just a standard meal.

It's unbelievable food.

I mean, when I was there, they cooked chili.

And it was just like this top notch chili that was produced by a lot of the veggies that they grow on their farm.

It's just such a cool store, man.

It hits you in the heart so hard because you're in there and you see the people that are in need of food.

And when you talk about foodies or you talk

about people like us that go around and eat at restaurants, you immediately think of privilege, right?

You immediately think they're always in the best restaurants, they're eating the finest food.

But for us to tell these stories too of what people are doing on the ground that don't always get the most, you know, attention, that to me is the most incredible thing.

And the beautiful part about that is there's a chef, her name is Caitlin Cullen from, she used to run a restaurant called The Tandem in Milwaukee.

And once she closed that restaurant, she started working at Kinship.

And she is responsible for really this sort of the energy to bring all of the food together there.

Awesome.

All right.

We are coming right back with Arthur Ersing, folks, creator of Wisconsin Foodie.

This is Nightlight with Pete Chwaba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back.

Spookster86 on the stream says Aaron, this is directed at Mr. Aaron's Armors.

Dumb and Dumber absolutely needs to be the very next movie you see.

It's the most quotable movie ever.

I don't totally disagree with Spookster86.

Thank you for the comment and hopefully you're making a note of that, Mr. Zomers.

Oh, definitely.

I do plan on watching it.

I will watch it at least this weekend.

We'll see how late I feel like staying up tonight.

It's it's a it's a fast watch.

It's a crackling good watch as they say you won't be disappointed and then we can discuss it So I highly recommend it.

Um Arthur Ursink is my guest folks.

He's the creator of the show Wisconsin Foodie a Great show that started on PBS.

Did it start on PBS Milwaukee or PBS Wisconsin?

You're on both now

It's there on PBS Wisconsin.

Okay at the time we had connections It actually started on channel 12 and then went to CBS at WSN in Milwaukee

There was only in Milwaukee for a while on channel 12 and then 58.

And then we made the connection to PBS.

And that's when we started to get syndicated across the state.

Unfortunately, right now, we're still working with the Milwaukee station.

There's been a lot of turnover there.

And I think they forgot to schedule Wisconsin Foodie this season.

So a little frustration there.

But I think they've reassured us that spring they will air the show.

Wow.

Yeah, yep.

You know, it's unfortunate because Milwaukee is my backyard, you know, that's where I live.

So, to not have the show on, I mean, it's been on for consistently 16 years and not to see it on the channel guide here is...

Kind

of

sucks, but you know, there's always YouTube and that's that's that's where we're We're starting to direct a lot of people to YouTube these days because you know, it's great to be able to see that traffic come through You know, we we get a check from YouTube as well, which is fantastic and you know So between Wisconsin Public Television and YouTube those are two great ways to view the show

For sure.

The new season premieres tomorrow night on PBS Wisconsin at 7.30 p.m.

so definitely check that out.

You described the show Arthur as dedicated to finding the stories behind the food we eat.

What are some specific stories you've discovered that you found really interesting or fascinating over the years?

I'm gonna say the one that I'm working on right now.

That's usually

the

one that I find the most fascinating.

And that is a place called Charlie's Smokehouse.

And yes, the show premieres tomorrow and I'm still working on episodes.

So there's

a

behind the curtain.

Not necessarily ideal, but no, Charlie's smokehouse out in Gills Rock, Door County, just a fantastic smokehouse, smoked fish, smoked fish for generations.

And they are probably some of the best, if not the best at what they do up there.

And Chris is the man, they're still fishing white fish out of the lake right there, bringing the white fish in, bringing the salmon in, and they're smoking every day, about 2,000 pounds a day during the season, which is just fantastic.

And the product is some of the best.

You know, the stories are just, you know, the stories, so many of the stories just hit me, you know, right in the heart and just the people that we meet, especially the folks that, you know, some of the farmers, the cheese makers that aren't used to being on camera, that have never had somebody come and talk to them about what they do.

You

know, folks that have spent their lives.

you know generations doing what they do become masters at what they do but nobody's ever taken the time to talk to them about why they do what they do what they love about what they do and those are the ones that resonate with me the most you know because as you know you've been in the same position as I have it's almost to agree like like therapy right you know where when I'm when I'm interviewing somebody I take myself out of it completely and I'm just getting their story I'm talking to them and I'm trying to I'm trying to extract the story from them and I just listen

and let them talk.

And sometimes it's so powerful for people.

We developed this just incredible connection where I'll get phone calls for Christmas 10 years later from folks that I've interviewed and talked to because that connection that we developed is so strong.

And that's a testament to the production and what we do is just that's how deep we're willing to get.

That's how much we care about telling the story.

So I think,

My favorite story, the most impactful one is usually the one that I worked on last.

That's a very diplomatic answer, but also very honest answer.

So I appreciate that.

Hey, before we let you go, can you recommend any Super Bowl snacks?

Something healthy, maybe?

Yeah, let's talk about it.

So the Packers aren't in the Super Bowl this year.

It's hard for me.

So I want to promote Wisconsin food and all this great local Wisconsin food.

But the beauty of this country is that there's regional food and there's food everywhere around this country.

So I would say that let's take this opportunity to celebrate East Coast and West Coast seafood, because that's the real money when it comes to seafood.

And especially when you're talking about New England and Seattle, that's where some of the best seafood lives.

So when we're talking about New England, we're looking at lobster rolls.

Get your hands on a lobster roll, go up to the St.

Paul Fish, they make some of the best lobster rolls that I've had in a while.

Grab yourself a lobster roll from up there.

Maybe some sushi, some smoked salmon.

If you can find the Charlie's smokehouse smoked salmon, it might not be from the Pacific Northwest, but hey, you can just sit back and think in your head that you're living up in rainy Seattle.

But I would

say let the seafood win this year.

Let's have a battle of seafood and bring all the treats.

That's a great answer.

you can always stop by the show road farmers market winter farmers market and pick all the snacks up you need.

I know I have so much to talk to you about but I know you got to get back at it so I won't keep you through the news because I know you got to work but I want to thank you for the

the recommendation about Charlie Smokehouse because I'm going to the Door County Film Festival next week and my dad was just saying today we got to find a place to eat and he's all about making reservations ahead of time so we'll look into that.

He said it's in Gil's Rock, right?

Gil's Rock.

It might be close to the scenes over but I'll give you some, hit me up offline.

I'll give you all the suggestions you need up in that area.

You got it.

Dude, this is always fun.

Best of luck with the new season.

I'm sure you'll have 16 or 18 more or whatever it is.

So keep up the great work and

always, always appreciate it.

Just crush it.

Great work, man.

Thank you so much for your time tonight.

Yeah.

Thanks, brother.

Thanks.

All right.

That's Arthur Ursink.

Check out Wisconsin Foodie, ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow night on PBS Wisconsin at 7 30 p.m.

And it sounds like you could check it out on YouTube as well.

So really, really just a solid show.

And if you're tired, like I am, of the short attention span editing, you have to check out Wisconsin Foodie.

It's therapy, and it involves food, and it's very well done.

All right, Aaron Zommer is sitting in for Conrad tonight.

Our question tonight, what is your favorite Jim Carrey movie?

Let me know, and I will read it on the radio.

Steve Seager in coming up.

In hour number two to talk about songs we never need to hear again.

We're coming right back after the news.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who washes his hands even after using a towel, Pete Schwabba.

Hey, hey, welcome back, folks.

The hour number two of Night Light on this beautiful, beautiful Wednesday night in the beautiful state of Wisconsin.

Great to have you here.

We're focusing on music tonight, ladies and gentlemen.

So we're gonna talk a lot about music this hour in the form of songs we don't ever need to hear again.

And then in hour three, just bad songs.

So a lot of chance to weigh in about music and how you feel tonight.

phone lines are always open at 855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic.

So let us know.

Be part of the show.

It's always fun.

You can also text us on the app or on the stream if you're watching the radio at YouTube, Facebook, or X. Sitting in tonight, producing the show, working the board, taking care of business is Mr. Aaron Zomer is always fun to work with you, pal.

You too.

Taking care of business is a pretty good song.

That one I'm okay with hearing.

You I worked that in there.

I thought subtly but you picked up on it and you pounced and that's why you're a great producer I appreciate that very much taking care of business is one of those songs that we'll talk about with Steve Seager and at 635 I don't ever need to hear that song again.

That's totally fair I mean, I guess I don't maybe I probably haven't heard it as many times as you have

That one and sweet home Alabama all

you

hear like by cover bands and bars really are what?

are on my list, but we'll talk to Steve Segrin at 635 and find out what he's added to his songs.

I never need to hear again list.

Steve is a comedian, actor, and a very accomplished artist who will be joining us over the stream at 635.

Love talking to Steve.

In hour number three or act three, Mike Toomey will be here.

Mike is a TV host and a comedian also, and we are just going to talk about bad songs.

So, he's got five he wants to share.

I told him to send them to me and I can have you pull them, Aaron, so we can hear some of the glory.

But that's what we're going to be talking about is music over the next couple hours mixed in with reading your texts and all kinds of fun stuff.

If you missed hour number one, you can check it out at civicmedia.us.

Arthur Ursink was my guest and it is always fun to talk about someone with such passion.

For food for filmmaking and that's what Arthur does and he's all about community and healthy food and His show Wisconsin foodie premieres season 16.

I believe on PBS Premieres tomorrow night at 7 30 on PBS Wisconsin so you can check that out It's also on YouTube.

Yeah,

we featured our Olympian of the night Jaden O'Brien who is from Milwaukee.

She will be competing in

In the bobsled event, in the Olympics that start, I think her event is February 20th and 21st, but we can cheer on Jaden, as well as all of our fellow Wisconsinites as they compete in the Olympics.

She's a push athlete, if you forgot, Erin.

I do remember.

I do remember that she's a push athlete, and that's partially why I played push it, so that I would remember.

You know, lock it in there.

That's a great one.

Our question of the night.

I think we should just I think we should just reintroduce it.

What do you say pal?

Here's the nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

What is your favorite Jim Carrey movie?

This is the anniversary of the dropage of Ace Ventura, Pet Detective.

So it got me thinking about Jim Carrey I'll be honest.

I don't love all of his movies But when he's good he is great and he is always hilarious So let me know what your favorite Jim Carrey movie is tonight What did you say again?

I think I went with I went with the Truman Show which you know your choice.

That's right if I have a crazier one.

I I don't know it's he does so many good ones and

I know the Grinch has also been mentioned and I like that except for the Dahudore song which I hate which I loathe as Jim Carrey would say as the Grinch It's crazy that when you see the behind the scenes his face just does that like it's not the prosthetics are

barely there Absolutely, he doesn't he's got such an animated face.

You don't even the makeup is like a bonus like he could just do it anyway He's that talented I said dumb and dumber one of my all-time favorite movies and

Here's where Dumb and Dumber won me over.

There's a scene in the film where Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels, two idiots, are driving cross-country to return a briefcase to Mary Swanson.

And Jim Carrey is in love with her.

He's a crush on her.

And while he's falling asleep at the wheel, he daydreams about himself being charming.

But he does it as a dumb guy would.

Like it's sometimes in movies you see a dumb guy imagining something where it's not consistent with his intellect.

But Jim Carrey

lights his own gas on fire and all these smart people are cracking up he throws popcorn in his face and I mean it's just brilliant the Fairly Brothers created an absolute masterpiece in Dumb and Dumber and I know some people who are snobs think oh that's just silly humor it is but it's very clever and it's very well done it's a great movie so I think you're gonna like it Aaron

I think so too yeah I mean I've I know some of the famous quotes I've seen a couple of clips I think I'm gonna like it I just it's just one I haven't gotten around to

The the list of movies to watch is never ending.

It happens.

So we're going to do that.

So let us know what your favorite Jim Carrey movie is.

We'll get to your text in just a little bit.

I want to talk, though, there was this great survey done about music.

How important would you say music is to your day,

Aaron?

I would say very important.

I went to school for music, so it's important to my life, but also, of course, you know, working in radio.

Music is a very big part of that.

So definitely important to my day-to-day life for sure

This was an interesting survey.

I saw this.

I think it was in rancor 84% of Americans say listening to music is an important part of the day How often do people listen to music 55% said an hour a day at least only 2% said never so I I'm one of those people I have

kind of mood music on all the time in my house even when I go to bed at night.

I've got like one of the you know music stations on and it's usually like classical like KUSC or something just very subtle string music or something.

I just like it on in the background and I know my wife will wake up and have coffee and it's on and the room is well lit and all that kind of stuff.

It just can be so important to your mood.

Most people said they still listen on the radio which I think is encouraging.

Here at Civic Media, that's great.

73% stream the radio, 48% listen to the music on the actual radio on a regular basis.

I don't know how they got those percentages, but okay.

24% download MP3s.

24% still use CDs.

11% listen to vinyl records and 4% use cassettes.

That's kind of cool.

When asked what their favorite type of music was,

Classic rock ranked first speaking of taking care of business With 19% of the vote now that's not it's that's not really surprising because all the classical music there is some new classical music that comes out but classical Classic rock just the catalog grows every year Because now you know nirvana is considered classic rock or something from the early 2000s

like a

good point that just keeps growing 11% said country

9% said pop your Taylor Swift's your bad bunnies your Justin Timberlake's

I guess I

don't know or Bruno Mars maybe 8% said hip-hop 7% said metal you a metal fan yeah I like metal yeah sometimes I do R&B also was at 7% so that's interesting and a good variety there classical wasn't really mentioned when they said which genre do you think best represents America in 2026 country in hip-hop

Time for first.

You know what's kind of interesting?

I like old country and I like some hip-hop.

I love when they blend those two genres

Well, that's where I disagree with you.

I like the new country pop that's kind of stuff.

I hate it.

Yeah, it just doesn't

work for me I said old country.

Did I say new country?

Oh, no, I guess I misinterpreted no old country.

Yeah, that's great

People were asked how often they went out and saw live music 21% said at least once a month Another 23% said at least one concert per year.

I sadly fall into that category where I'm probably like in the lower percentile I just don't go out as much as I used to and I don't go out to see live music, which I really should You go to concerts.

Yeah, I probably go to I don't know it's hard to say

But definitely several a year.

I wouldn't necessarily say once a month, but maybe in the summer.

I guess in the summer, it's probably a little more than that.

So if you're counting, you know, you go to a bar in town to see a local band play.

Yeah.

No, that's perfect.

And that's what I need to do more of.

So I say all this, folks, because we're talking about music tonight in about 15, 20 minutes.

Steve Seager and we'll be here.

We're going to see where Steve's list is at in terms of music or songs he never needs to hear again.

I'm going to chime in.

Somers is gonna give some of his it'll be a fun discussion and then an hour number three Mike Toomey will be here and we'll just be talking about Bad songs and you guys can get in on that conversation as well.

It's sometimes fun just to go negative and trash things we have to be honest Turning to the social media responses for our question of the night Which is what is your favorite Jim Carrey movie?

Matt Cassane on social media says me myself and Irene.

Oh god.

I forgot about that nightlight guest rich brown

Has written for a lot of the Farrelly Brothers movies and that was one that he wrote.

I want to say the cow I think it's a cow they hit in the middle of the road and it's dying and he tried Jim Carrey tries to put it out of its misery and keeps shooting it to try to kill it And then he rounds the corner and there's a veterinary hospital right there.

Oh my great great jokes and me myself and Irene.

Thank you Matt We've got Let's see he put a meme there too of Jim Carrey, which is always appreciated.

Thank you Matt

Boris Hamilton says, once bitten, have not seen it, Boris.

See, don't feel bad, Zomers.

I haven't seen some of these movies either.

Well, there are just too many for one person to see them all.

There's too much content out there.

You can't keep up.

Rich Luccasio from WRJN here at Civic Media says Ace Ventura, pet detective.

There you go.

That's what sparked this whole conversation.

This is the day that film dropped.

So thank you, Rich.

Amanda Nimmer says, you mean I have to pick one, just one.

You can list as many as you want, Amanda.

We are not gonna try to squash or kibush enthusiasm.

Matt Harper, my favorite Green Bay rock rap artist says, the mask, love the dog in that one too.

I forgot about the dog.

You know which Jim Carrey movies surprised me?

The Sonic ones.

I expected the Sonic movies to be awful, but they're actually really fun.

Although I haven't seen the newest one.

I've only seen the first two.

Okay.

How many are there?

There are three now.

Oh my gosh.

The third one features Keanu Reeves as Shadow the Hedgehog, if I remember correctly.

But yeah, especially when they originally showed the design for Sonic and there was the huge backlash that made them basically scrap the whole thing, I was worried that the new one wouldn't be any better.

But you know what?

They made them pretty fun movies.

Yeah, I see there you go.

I got to catch up Michael MC on social media says eternal sunshine of the spotless mind.

Yes Boy, I haven't seen that one in a while.

I'm due for a rewatch.

Thank you, Michael Mary Piccourney Donlan says on social media the Truman show another vote for the Truman show That's proving to be a very popular Jim Carrey movie tonight.

Thank you, Mary Mike Corwin on social media says yes, man.

Have you seen that Zomers?

Which one was that?

Yes, man

Ah, no, I have not.

I haven't either.

I have not either, but a couple people mentioned that.

I wasn't even aware of it, to be honest with you.

Janet on social media says, my very first thought was liar, liar.

The outtakes are just as funny.

I got to say, though, the best movie line is when he's talking to Lauren Holly and Dumb and Dumber.

So you're telling me there's a chance.

Zomber, you're going to lose it when you hear that, because you've probably heard that cliche

your whole life.

I've heard that,

yeah.

You're going to see it in context.

It's great.

How we doing on time?

Got about 40 seconds.

Is that all that's ridiculous?

This is a bad song, but I don't need to hear again.

That's going.

Save that one, too.

Mike Janssen on social media says Liar Liar.

JB Thompson says, I like yes, man.

Also, if you ever had a Red Bull, Red Bull, Red Bull.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

We are coming right back to finish up with some text.

And I have a really interesting thing you're going to want to hear.

This is Beachwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media or Radio Network.

What is that one?

Power of suggestion by Steve Stevens from the Ace Ventura soundtrack.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight.

We are talking bad music tonight.

We're talking about music in general, Super Bowl snacks, bad music, songs we never need to hear again.

Aaron Zommers is working the board tonight and that was a song as he just said from Ace Ventura, a better movie than the soundtrack would indicate.

Welcome back, folks.

Great to have you here.

Let us know what your favorite Jim Carrey movie is, and we will read your text on the radio.

So where are you at in terms of the Super Bowl Zombers?

Are you a big fan?

I know it's like, I don't even know if you're a sports fan.

I assume we've talked about sports a little bit, but the Super Bowl is an event.

Yeah, I've never really been a huge sports guy, although I've gotten more into it in recent years, because my roommates are...

Like, I don't know, it'd be hard to be bigger sports people.

And so I've, I understand it a lot better now.

When I

was little, I would go out of the room and do whatever during the Super Bowl and then come back in for the commercials.

Now I do actually pay attention to the game, but you know, it's an excuse to try out a new recipe for an appetizer or something.

There you go.

That's where I was going with this.

We had Arthur Ursincon in hour number one, folks.

He's always a blast to talk to.

He said go for seafood snacks because they're healthier.

And he mentioned a great restaurant in Gil's Rock.

He mentioned if you can get fish or lobster or whatever from the coast, you should do that.

But thinking more simplistically, I found this list.

The Super Bowl is Sunday, so it's Wednesday.

You still have time, folks.

Wisconsin's favorite Super Bowl snacks revealed this is from Sports Geek, the Sports Geek.

They've researched each state's favorite Super Bowl snacks.

It has been revealed that Wisconsin's favorite Super Bowl snacks are ready for the summers.

All right.

Did I share this with you?

Let me look here.

I think you did.

It's almost as much fun if I just tell you.

Number one, what do you think it is?

I mean, well, now I pulled up the list, but I would have guessed that anyway, that chips and dips.

Chips and dips.

It's just

the easy thing to do.

And this is just in Wisconsin.

Number two, chicken wings.

No surprise there.

Number three, cookies.

Okay.

Not cookies and dip.

That would be disgusting.

Number four, hot dogs.

Number five, tater tots.

I have to admit, I absolutely love

tater tots.

Oh, me too.

But I wouldn't make them for the Super Bowl.

I don't know.

That just didn't cross my mind.

It seems like if you're gonna make tater tots for the Super Bowl you need to get kind of fancy put bacon bits in them or something or have some kind of fun dip I don't know.

I'm with you Number six a barbecued ribs That's I guess that depends how involved you want to get in your snack baking, but that's ambitious Number seven corn dogs number eight potato skins.

That's a classic.

Yeah.

Yeah for sure number nine mozzarella sticks number ten burgers

So what are your favorites there?

I think for me, I mean, I do love just good chip and dip, you know, just various chips, various dips.

I'm always here for the saltiness.

And I'm a fan of in, you know, big shareable foods and parties like this stuff that doesn't get your hands messy.

So sorry, chicken wings.

I'm not doing it.

Yeah, they're almost more trouble than they're worth as delicious as they can be.

I'm probably a chipper dip guy, too.

Some of these I wouldn't even think to make for the Super Bowl.

Hot dogs, tater tots, corn dogs, I guess depends on what part of the country you're in, too.

What about pizza rolls?

Pizza rolls, yeah.

There are sometimes or some events, I would only eat pizza rolls at certain, probably at a Super Bowl party or some kind of weird movie night or something.

I would never buy pizza rolls.

But when it's the right moment, like I pretty much just eat pizza rolls on New Year's Eve.

Oh, New Year's Eve's a good one, too, yeah.

Here are Wisconsin's favorite choices of dips.

Number one, ranch dressing.

Oh, big surprise there.

Ranch is getting out of hand.

I think ranch dressing needs to be stopped.

We need to broaden our horizons a little

bit.

Especially when, you know, just combined with other things and sold together, as you recently talked about with, you know, crunch.

What was that again?

Ketchup and ranch in the same bottle.

That's Heinz, right?

It sure is.

That's terrible.

I think I even made the comment that some people like ranch so much they dip their ranch in ranch.

It's awful.

Number two, buffalo chicken.

That's a great dip.

Our friend Robin makes a great buffalo.

We had it on New Year's Eve.

Oh my God, that's good.

Number three, pizza dip.

No thanks.

That's just like marinara, right?