Quarterback Debates and Valentine’s Vibes (Hour 1)

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Quarterback Debates and Valentine’s Vibes (Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Jan 28, 2026

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

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And now, a guy who likes to talk trash, but only when he's at the dump.

Pete Schwabba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

I am Pete Schwab, and this is great to have you here, folks.

It is a Wednesday night.

Am I crazy or are the days getting just a little bit longer and a little bit warmer?

This might sound crazy, but it's, I mean, it's, listen, it's really cold outside.

But there's a non-nip in the air.

There's something that is telling me that spring is sort of getting closer.

We are almost in February.

I don't know.

I think things are looking up.

Conrad, how you doing?

Doing good.

Do you

agree with that?

Yeah, I mean, it's nine degrees.

So, you know, it's getting warmer.

It's not nine.

It was sixteen in Marinette.

Tell me it's colder in the tropics that we call Green Bay.

I mean, you know, it's on a weather app, so it's gotta be legit.

Okay.

I only base every weather I look at off my weather app.

All right.

Well, that's fine.

Yeah.

So you're not golfing yet, but you might rock some

shorts.

I miss it.

I don't know.

Call me crazy.

I like at least that it's getting later.

It's staying light out a little bit later.

It's 5.07 right now.

Yeah.

On my MacBook Pro clock, and it is still light outside, folks.

So I'm happy about that.

It's Wednesday.

We're halfway through the week.

We got a great show tonight, folks.

Really fun guests.

Some great conversation.

A great question, and hopefully you guys will participate, and we will be off to the races for another fun evening here at Nightlight.

A show designed to help you forget the day, escape, put the booze down, put the crack pipe down, just listen to some Nightlight and let's have some fun.

That's your escape, folks.

What are you laughing at, Conn?

Is that too optimistic?

Yeah, I think so.

You know, I just got to mention, it's my favorite day of the year.

Wednesday,

it's national kazoo day.

Oh Really you played a little kazoo back in your day, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, you got some yeah,

I mean no I have the kazoo with me here.

I'll play a little fantastic What do you think

I've never been more disappointed

That was absolutely atrocious.

Uh, was it Star Wars or Superman?

You know, uh, you know, uh, I can't, it's Fox, you know, when he, the intro to the movies, you know, the

Fox.

Oh, Fox Studios, yeah.

Yeah, who's that?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The best one ever that they did, I think it might have been Fox Searchlight, but it was when Ralph Wiggum was on top of the 20 for the Simpsons movie in 20.

That's so great.

Well, happy National Gazoo Day, folks.

It is also Blueberry Pancakes Day, which I think last year on this day, we did a question like, how do you like your pancakes or something like that?

So we don't want to double up this quick, but next year, folks, keep your eyes peeled for that pancake question, but happy Blueberry Pancakes Day to everybody.

We got to talk about this because last night, Conrad did what I like to call a con binge.

and

they don't happen often.

I've done this before too, but I want you to tell everybody what you watched last night and you watched an entire season in one sitting.

I was really excited for this, just because of the commercials.

I was like, oh, this looks like a show that I'm actually really interested in, because not a lot have really drawn my attention recently.

And it's Wonder Man.

Which was on Disney plus

new show

came out with eight episodes all of them same day, which I was like That's not that's bad news for me.

It's so great when they do that So yeah, I watched they're about 40 minutes and I didn't want to stop watching because it was really really interesting

So you watched eight episodes forty minute episodes That's 320 minutes of color television in one night.

That is how many hours is that five and a half hours?

Yeah, I've watched

Yeah, and, you know, didn't go to bed till about two thirty.

See, you're young.

You got that kind of stamina.

I could never.

I say I shouldn't say that.

My wife and I watched the final season of Bosch.

It's about seven years ago.

They're wrapped up the whole show with an eight episode season.

We want we went home.

I said our plan was to order a pizza and watch like the first four episodes and then finish the next four the next night.

We jammed through the entire series in one night.

And that sounds really fun.

but When you're done, you're kind of like did I forget stuff that it's so much to comprehend I

I guess I love this series though.

It was

so good, huh?

It

was it was fantastic.

It was the best Marvel series since Loki and I mean the last series is their devil was okay, but now this one was

Fantastic, and I was Marvel guy, but I have to check that out

like it's doesn't have the

Don't know like same Feeling as a superhero movie because it's not really a superhero or TV show.

It's doesn't have this.

It's not a superhero TV show It's kind of about a basic man who has powers that he doesn't want anyone to know about

okay?

All right.

Oh, it's worth that's a con.

It's a con binge.

She recommends check it out if that's up your alley

Definitely watch it Disney plus

all

eight episodes streaming now

We've got news, sports, and weather coming up in just 18 minutes, folks, and a lot of fun to be had tonight on, I almost said, on Netflix.

You know what I did?

I write out my notes before every show, and I even write news, sports, and weather, like remind people that it's coming up.

But tonight, I put news, ports, and weather.

Oh, wow.

So at 5.30, folks, you're gonna get the news.

They'll tell you about various ports around the state.

There's a port in Green Bay, right?

Yeah, and the weather so there you go Who wants to hear about sports anyway when you could talk about ports?

And then we've got some really fun stuff coming up, but we got a great lineup tonight.

I'm very excited from St.

Croix Falls in Wisconsin.

Lindsay Fry will join us for the, she is the marketing director of the Festival Theater.

They have a really fun Valentine's Day show coming up.

She'll tell us all about it.

We like having Lindsay on the show.

She's been on before.

At 635, Matt Miller, Milwaukee film, Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller will be here to talk about the Oscars.

Like to talk about I have to pace myself because I could talk about the Oscars every night, but I think once a week Will suffice because I know everybody doesn't share my interests But we will talk to Matt about that at 635 it's gonna be a blast and then at 720 I've been trying to have this next guest or this 7 o'clock guest on for a long time Molly Snyder from on Milwaukee comm will be here and Molly writes really cool really funky Articles at on Milwaukee and she is Milwaukee through and through

Just a Milwaukee girl and we're gonna talk to her about all kinds of stuff the Laverne and Shirley fiftieth anniversary a fun event coming up at the Lakeland brewery there or is it the lakefront brewery in Milwaukee Molly's also got a typewriter festival.

Oh, we'll talk about and it sounds really fun So lots to do and we're gonna talk about the movie song sung blue She wrote a great article about that and 13 things that she noticed in the film.

I'm halfway through it.

I rented it today

just so I could sort of contribute to this conversation.

And I was getting tired of everybody coming on the show saying they had seen song sung blue.

And I haven't.

And this is the Wisconsin movie of the year, you know, like it was filmed while it wasn't filmed here, sadly.

That's one of my criticisms.

But nobody outside of Wisconsin or Milwaukee cares about that.

But I do.

But it's still a good movie.

The Neil Diamond music is so great.

And Kate Hudson rocks in it.

She is so.

Good.

So I'm kind of pulling for her to win the Oscar.

So we'll do all that.

Great guests.

And I think right now it's time to get to our nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

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All right.

This question is inspired

was inspired by our guest from last night, Seth Wickersham, who wrote a great book called American Kings about quarterbacks.

And I just thought it'd be fun because it's a great debate.

This is one of the things that it's kind of subjective, but it's kind of not because numbers don't lie, but you could argue different eras of the quarterback.

It's just a fun discussion.

So our question of the night is who is the greatest quarterback?

Thank you, Seth Wickersham, for the inspiration for the question.

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But let us know who you think is the greatest quarterback.

Con your sports guy.

I'm gonna let you go first.

Well, I broke it up into three categories.

And are they all three packers?

No.

Most talented quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

And some of the throws I've seen by him just don't make sense.

Some of the pockets he could fit into and all the pressure that he faced.

I just like the best quarterback ever witnessed.

Okay.

The greatest of all time.

I think it's Tom Brady because of the rings and how many times he did go to the big, you know, the big game.

Right.

And then the best movie quarterback

of all time.

Movie quarterback.

Okay, now we're talking.

It's

Uncle Rico.

Without a doubt.

It's hard to disagree with Aaron Rodgers, but I will challenge it a little bit.

And I asked Seth Wickersham this yesterday about Steve Young.

I don't know that anybody's had those tools.

And like he had a rocket arm.

He threw for accuracy.

He was

fast.

And I feel like if he hadn't sat, and he got a Super Bowl ring in his limited time as a starter, I feel like if he had just come out and started, we might be talking about him as the greatest quarterback of all time.

But he went to USFL and then he sat on the bench for probably at least five years behind Montana.

I don't know why he did that.

But that's the only, but yeah, Aaron Rodgers, it's hard to, it's hard to argue with that.

So you say Rodgers, Brady.

And in terms of Brady, just because it's fun to discuss, Montana was 4-0 undefeated in a different era where he got his lights knocked out every game and he was half the size of Brady.

Brady is 7-3.

Two of those wins, the other teams completely choked.

So he could just as easily be 5-5.

Which, look, getting to 10 Super Bowls, maybe that's enough to say you're the greatest quarterback of all time.

I don't know.

But I said Montana

Okay,

yeah, just to be because I knew most people would say Brady and you could you know You say that I can't really argue that seven to three is pretty good record

You know the one of the one of the most boring Super Bowls I've ever watched was with Tom Brady in it It was the Patriots versus the Rams where Jared Goff was the quarterback.

Oh,

yeah It's the worst Super Bowl I've ever seen

did golf play poorly in that super I just barely both

teams played poorly.

Did they

it was like all field goals until one

One score.

Let me throw this at you.

Most overrated quarterback of all time.

Ah,

most overrated.

Troy Aikman.

Honest to God.

Like, I don't mind him.

I know, I know Packer fans hate him.

Most cities where he announces the game, the fans probably don't like him.

Never threw for 4,000 yards, threw for more than 20 touchdowns in a season once.

Carrier at 165.

Touchdowns 141 picks 32,000 total yard.

I he's and I didn't realize this till about a year ago I thought he was one of the greatest all-time because they have three rings under him But those are not good numbers.

I'll hold my answer after the break.

All right That is a reason to come back folks Conrad's answer after the break coming up We're also gonna tell you what are some popular snacks in Wisconsin popular Super Bowl snacks

Made in Wisconsin.

We'll do that next.

It's Pete Schwab at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwab.

This is Nightlight.

Great to have you here, folks.

Happy Wednesday, everybody.

We are talking about quarterbacks.

That is our question of the night.

Who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

A lot of different...

Things can come into consideration when you're making your choice.

TDs, yards, wins, all kinds of different stuff.

It's a fun discussion.

Different eras come into play.

This question is inspired by our yesterday guest, Seth Wickersham, the ESPN senior writer and author of American Kings, A Biography of the Quarterback.

It got me thinking, this is a great argument to have, and we've all

I remember arguing this with my Packer fan friends like I'd say Jim McMahon, they would say Bart Starr or Brett Farr or whatever Dave on the stream says Terry Bradshaw Interesting Says he called his own place.

I didn't know that and Terry Bradshaw's numbers again He's I think he's 4-0 also like Montana in Super Bowls Montana's numbers are better Terry Bradshaw does not have great numbers Terry Bradshaw through for

212 touchdowns, I think, and 210 interceptions.

But the guy won four Super Bowls.

Joe Montana has great numbers.

Steve Young, my guy who I thought could have been the best of all time, drafted by or started playing for Tampa Bay in 85, really chewed it while he was there.

Three TDs, eight picks.

I mean,

I don't think Tampa Bay, they were terrible.

Eight, eight TDs, 13 picks the next year.

First year in San Francisco through for 10 touchdowns, no picks, but he was not the starter.

He didn't start full time in San Francisco.

I don't think until like 92.

He's got like eight years of respectable stats in the NFL when it comes to yards and throws.

I can't even imagine what he could have done with another.

He threw for 33,000 yards, 107 touchdowns.

No, I'm sorry 232.

What am I looking at here?

Yeah, Steve Young threw for 232 touchdowns on 100 picks or something like that.

I mean he I don't know con he look up his Highlights, I think you'd be impressed.

You're a sports guy.

Yeah, but you tell me but Akeman is horribly overrated just as an individual player

Certainly qualified to do color commentary at game so but let us know who your favorite quarterback is or who you think is the best ever I said Joe Montana Conrad said Uncle Rico and

Well, I broke it down, but most talented Aaron Rodgers greatest of all time Tom Brady Best movie quarterback Uncle Rico.

Uncle Rico.

Yeah,

I guess so I was talking you know, you're talking about most overrated.

I Have two kind of

That are back-to-back kind of Tony Romo He had some impressive stats, you know during regular seasons, but he always choked every every time and Crucial airs.

Yeah, and I think this is the Dallas Cowboys way It like every single thing every single bad luck thing that he did went to the next corner in deck

Prescott was it?

Cuz that great regular season quarterback,

you know before Jordan Love got that big contract Dak was like the highest paid quarterback

Right.

And he is a terrible playoff record.

And I mean, some of the worst interceptions I've, interceptions I've seen is from him.

Some of the worst clock management I've seen from him as well.

He just, I don't know, just those two quarterbacks, they, they got paid very well, but never made it.

I mean, Tony Romo never

made it to a Super Bowl.

They're both kind of fun to watch.

Like Romo could really light it up during the regular season.

No, I said the same thing a couple of years, a weeks ago, we were talking about, I don't know, Jordan Love or whatever.

And I think To me Eli Manning is more of a big gamer than Peyton Manning Peyton Manning was another phenomenal regular season quarterback But he didn't win Super Bowls because of his play.

I mean he's got two rings

Peyton Manning already always had a fantastic team around it pretty much true Eli Manning sometimes did Right Eli Manning also was you know, he's known for His his big games, but he was also kind of known for his interceptions as well.

Correct during the regular season.

Yeah

I'm

pretty sure he led the league like three for three separate years or something like that for Interceptions

Well, and you could argue that one catch in the Patriots Super Bowl I mean

it was

more of a great catch than a great throw, but But the guy got it done when it mattered.

Yeah, I

don't

know So it's a fun argument.

Let us know who you think is the greatest quarterback of all time Casey on the stream says Shane Falco.

Who is that Conrad?

I'm pretty sure he's from a movie Bobby Boucher

Oh, yes, he's from the replacements.

That's Keanu Reeves.

Oh, Keanu Reeves.

Yeah, right.

So I will take that.

I did ask the make the call guys about the question tonight.

Okay.

And Jimmy Cusco said from that in 2004, Michael Vick video game.

That's a whole other.

Well, I agree with them because he just you could run with him and he had 99 speeds.

And you know, Parker Olson said Tom Brady.

So, okay.

I think most people in your generation are gonna say Tom Brady.

Yeah, I

mean just like with hoops a lot of them say LeBron James

I'll say

over my generation go get out of here.

I'll still say Michael Jordan.

Yeah, and I would maybe agree I think Brady is a better choice over other people just because he got there so many times and When the game was on the line, he was great, but the LeBron Jordan thing I don't know how you can make that argument Maybe if you've never seen Michael Jordan play.

Yeah, I mean what I grew up

I would watch just Michael Jordan highlights.

Yeah, repeat trying to do a you know a 360 layup in my backyard You know my son Joe

has seen the last dance three times.

It's such a great great so good We've got also Super Bowl snacks.

I Wanted to get to that.

I don't think we're gonna have time to do that Maybe we'll do that at the top of the second hour Because these are all snacks made in Wisconsin for Super Bowl

for Super Bowl snacking.

So we'll get to that too.

New sports and weather is coming up next, folks.

Then we have Lindsay Fry here from the Festival Theater in St.

Croix Falls.

Our question of the night, who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

And then I got to talk about Heinz Ketchup at some point.

They need to be stopped.

These are ridiculous products.

The keg, chup, we'll discuss.

All right, it's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

We have to, uh... Heinz ketchup has to be stopped, ladies and gentlemen.

They have the keg-chup now for Super Bowl parties that they're pushing.

It's 114 ounces or something like that.

And it's like... 175 bucks or something like that.

What do we got, Con?

Oh, gotcha.

Yes.

Um, so...

And then they had that remember it was the ketchup smoothie Conrad I was trying to remember.

Oh,

they had the horrible ketchup smoothie and then they've also got a ketchup Where is that ketchup smooth?

Oh ranch ketchup Hmm, I just sounds enough for enough ranch where we can be done with ranch.

I think It's a fine product, but it's gotten into everything Now there are people dipping ranch in ranch and it's wrong

I'm very excited to welcome my next guest, folks.

She's been on the show before, and she's the marketing director at the Festival Theatre in St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

They do really outstanding work there, and they have a really cool event coming up on Valentine's Day in just about a week and a half.

Joining me now over the stream is Lindsay Fry.

Lindsay, how are you?

I'm great.

How are you?

Good.

It's good to see you again.

I've got my cat here, Cosmo.

Oh my gosh,

I hope that was a cat.

Just saw

this crazy tail come in and it was not.

How are you tonight?

I'm doing great.

I'm enjoying the slow winter.

Are you

a winter person?

When the time comes around, I have my activities I enjoy in the winter.

Okay.

You're not a native Wisconsinite, correct?

No,

I'm not.

I'm from Kansas originally, so definitely different winters in Kansas.

Is

that like Wisconsin without as many trees?

Yeah, and all the roads are very straight.

Really?

It's

like Tornado Alley, right?

Yeah.

You're much better off here in Wisconsin, Lindsay.

We're happy to have

you.

So how are things going?

How long have you been there now at the Festival Theater?

I'm going on my fourth year.

Oh,

great.

Okay.

I don't know if this, I don't know if you're a sports fan or not, but I typically ask all the guests that come on the show our question of the night.

Do you have a quarterback you think is the greatest of all time?

Oh boy, you know, I'm not a sports person.

Okay.

I

respect that.

I definitely probably know a handful of football players, but I'd have to say Tom Brady, probably because that's the only NFL quarterback

that

I can name.

I appreciate your honesty.

How about an all-time greatest stage actor or musical theater actor?

Oh boy, you know, right now, kind of my winter fixation is Barbara Streisand.

Oh, nice.

Watching all of her movies and listening to her albums, so.

She's done pretty well for herself.

Yeah,

all right, that's a

great answer.

All right, so tell us all about this really great show coming up on Valentine's Day that Festival Theatre is sponsoring.

I don't think it's at your space though, correct?

Yeah, so Festival Theatre is partnering with the Chateau St.

Croix winery to put this event on.

The concert will be at the winery on Valentine's Day, starting at 6pm.

And it'll be three of extremely talented musicians, Joni Griffith, Amanda Wise, and Debbie Kildee.

They're all kind of coming together.

They're all like...

you know trained musicians and singers to bring an evening of Celebrating love in all of its moods What does that

mean?

I saw that on your website.

What does that mean love in all of its moods or?

Iterations or whatever.

Can you explain that or elaborate?

Yeah, well, I think love is such an umbrella term for a lot of emotions and you know, I think they'll definitely be some

heartbreak, some love songs, there's lots of humor on what we do for love.

Yeah,

they're kind of tapping into all of that.

That is that's great, and I think sometimes the heartbreak I mean some of my favorite songs are very sad songs like they're just fun to listen to and I even listen to them like when I work out like they're just that powerful Even though they don't really necessarily celebrate love but celebrate a breakup and I bet these women you have Performing them are outstanding.

Where do they come from?

Oh, yes.

They're all based in the Twin Cities in Minneapolis, but travel around a lot and perform as well.

Okay.

Oh, that's great.

Now, it's $25 to get in, but if you pay more, if you pay $38, you get wine.

in dessert.

There's like kind of a package deal we're offering so you can come and just see the concert or you can get a little package deal and you get a glass of wine and some dessert at the Chateau which the Chateau has a full of food menu as well so they have excellent food they make really good.

like they smoke brisket in house and stuff.

So lots of really great stuff.

And I know the Chateau has events going on all day for Valentine's Day.

So I know some people are coming to do a port tasting and then stick around to have dinner and then see this concert.

So there's a lot going on.

Are

you a wine girl?

Do you like wine?

I do like wine.

Okay.

Here's my issue.

All right.

Can I can I open up a little bit here?

Of course, it's a safe space.

I appreciate that.

Wine and dessert.

People have those together sometimes.

I don't get that it's like too much.

It's too much.

It's overload.

It's too much sweets.

It's too much sweets.

I think so

together.

You know, that's really interesting because there's a lot of wines.

Well, there's like different varieties so you could pair it with something drier, which maybe wouldn't be as

much of an

overload.

or having like a full body, like red wine mixed with something a little sweeter is kind of nice.

I know that the Chateau also serves port wine or port, which is wine fortified with brandy.

So, and they have exquisite port if you're into that.

And if you've never tried it, I highly recommend.

Okay, that sounds great.

I just always see them paired together and I'm like, I like both of those, but I think a little distance.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, maybe if you're not a big like sweet.

I don't want to drink

red wine with my Twinkies.

I want them later, right?

I don't know.

Maybe that's just me.

All right.

Well, I can't think of a better venue for a Valentine's Day show than a winery, so that's kind of cool.

What made you do that?

You've got this great space, but I also see today, I saw an email from you.

You guys have acquired another property, it sounds like, or a place to put productions on.

Tell us about that.

So we Tom Wilson in St.

Croix Falls donated the funeral home in St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin to us.

And so it won't be a performance space, but it will be a whole building that we will use as a full service costume department and

like a costume shop and will be actor housing so that's really great for us because festival theater relies on a very generous and great uh host home uh program where people in the community house traveling artists that stay here for our productions um and sometimes depending on like whatever's going on in life it can be a little difficult so now that we have our own space we won't have to rely so heavily on um

our host home program, which we've got great, generous host home programs, but now we'll also be able to house our own actors, which just means that we can have more actors come into town.

Do you think it's going to be haunted?

That's a great question.

You know, the historic auditorium that we perform in has a theater ghost named Pepper.

Oh, I love it.

Why are theaters so haunted?

Every theater, it seems like it's haunted or has some ghosts that can't let go.

Maybe a former actor or something, right?

Yeah, definitely.

Pepper.

Pepper is definitely a little prankster.

Sprite.

Anything that goes wrong in the building, it's Pepper.

That's

so great.

I just don't tell the actors what it used to be, and I think it'll be fine.

Lindsay Fry is my guest.

She is the marketing director at the Festival Theatre in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

Tickets are $28.

It's a great Valentine's Day show next Saturday at the Chateau St.

Croix winery.

You get a great show for $25 if you want to spend a little more.

You get dessert and wine and all kinds of stuff.

You can find more information at festivaltheatre.org.

What else do you guys have coming up?

So right now we're kind of in our slow season.

We're prepping for our professional summer theater series to start in the summer and we're hosting auditions for our Playmakers series, which is our arts education program.

And we're doing Frozen Junior this spring.

Oh,

fun show.

So well, on February 15th and 16th, we'll have auditions for Frozen Junior and then our first musical of the summer Shrek.

the musical, which will be open to community members to audition as well.

It'll be kind of a big, big production.

So Shrek is open to all ages to audition and Frozen Junior is our youth program.

So it'll be ages eight to 18.

It

sounds like

I'm

out of the running for that one.

Yes, but you can audition for Shrek.

That's right.

If you know any young people or...

Anybody who wants to get on stage, you don't need any experience.

You know, we're very welcoming to all to just get involved and develop a love of theater.

How much effort does that take to really build a community theater, but it is a community and you have to.

you know, sort of a foster that atmosphere and build a brand, so to speak.

Is it hard to find good actors there?

I know you guys bring actors in from other places sometimes and even a director, I think we had on the show previously.

But what kind of talent is there in St.

Croix Falls?

There's a lot of talent.

You know, we last year, we did the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and we had over 100 youth audition.

And it was so hard to

be able to cast.

You know we cast as many people that we had room for and so it's great to see how much talent there is in the area for young people and adults.

We have a lot of local community members who had either like done theater in high school or just like curious about theater and want to try it and festival theater is definitely a place where you know you don't have to

be like a theater kid your whole life or anything like if you you want to try something you can audition for us

and

even if you don't want to be on stage there's so many opportunities to get involved we have a lot of local community members who help with props and costumes and putting our sets together so there's like such a vast town that we have in the community and so providing opportunities for them to

to showcase that

is lovely.

It's so great because my daughter spent her, you know, as long as we've been in Wisconsin, she's been going to the Bayshore Theater or Theater on the Bay as it's called in Marinette.

We're on the other side of the state, but she, I mean, her first love is being on stage and performing, but...

Every second or opportunity she got to go there and build sets and paint and do all that other cool stuff She was just over there like what I love about theater people is it's just in their blood whether you're on stage behind the scenes Whatever it is.

What is your obviously do marketing at the festival theater?

But I know you're also an actor Lindsay so listen We're gonna do a quick break and then we'll just keep you for a couple minutes on the other side of that so think about

your favorite role in the theater, and then I'm probably going to ask you what your binge watching too when we come back.

All right, Lindsay Fry is

here

from the Festival Theater in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

We are coming right back.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwab, and

this is Nightlight.

Great to have you here, folks.

It is Wednesday.

And we are cooking.

We're cooking like it's Friday.

We're doing like a Friday on a Wednesday.

It's very confusing, but we'll get through it.

It's a lot of fun.

My guest joining us on the stream right now from beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin is the marketing director of the Festival Theater.

She's also a very talented actress.

Lindsay Fry is with me right now.

She thinks Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback, but she admittedly does not really know quarterbacking, but she loves Barbara Streisand.

So we'll take that as an even better answer.

Thank you, Lindsay, for that.

So we were talking about your role.

I mentioned you're an actor, you're the marketing director.

What's your favorite role?

You obviously love theater.

And I love people who love theater.

I find them to be so immersive and passionate.

It's so great.

What is your favorite thing to do either on stage, backstage, marketing, whatever?

Definitely acting on stage.

That's where I got into theater and found a love for and...

You know, that's that's the hat that I like to wear and then I love working in theater in the theater world and doing admin for a nonprofit theater company.

It's something that I think is just great.

It's important.

Yeah,

for sure.

Yeah, it is important and art and like live storytelling.

It's really like a sense of community and stuff.

So I feel like that's

also very fulfilling and enjoyable to me, but definitely acting.

That's great.

It's so great.

And they're doing Shrek and they're doing Frozen Junior and February 14th at the Chateau Street.

I'm sorry, Chateau St.

Croix Winery.

They have a great Valentine's Day show.

So check that out if you're in the area.

What are your favorite shows to do as an actor, Lindsay?

Do you have a favorite you've been a part of, like a classic or something that was written, an original work?

Oh boy, you know, I think there's definitely like something special about every production, you

know, but

the kinds of like shows or theater that I'm drawn to definitely have some sort of strong ensemble, whether that's a musical or even like plays have an ensemble that is really enjoyable to work together.

in that way.

That's a great answer and it's hard when shows are done.

You get so, you know, kind of immersed in the play itself and your cast members and everybody you work on the show with that they become your family and it's very intense.

It's like a movie set, you know, and it's, those are just great experiences.

Okay, so are you in any of the shows coming up?

Yes, I am.

This season, we've got a stacked season of some really great shows.

Our youth show is Frozen Junior, which I'll be directing.

I'm also the arts

education director.

Oh,

great.

So

I'm

very excited about that.

It is everyone kind of a nonprofit theater, whereas a

lot of

apps.

And then I'll be in the rest of the season.

We're doing Shrek the musical.

We're doing a show called The Revolutionists, which is about four women during the French Revolution who were all beheaded.

And I'll preface this, that it is a comedy.

It's very-

I was just about to make the joke that that does not sound very funny.

But here it is, a very dark comedy, obviously.

Yeah, it's it's a comedy and it's kind of meta.

So they all come together to write a play.

It's it's a laugh out loud script.

While it's got historical elements, I'll be playing Marie Antoinette in that show.

Oh, sweet.

Yeah, it'll be a great one.

And then we're closing our summer season with the three musketeers, which is a very like slapstick farce comedy of this classic story.

So in this show, we have about 27 fight scenes.

I'm pretty sure that's the number.

It's going to have a lot

of speech combat.

I know a lot of our actors are already preparing and working on stage combat already.

Oh,

that's so great.

August.

And the Three Musketeers is a great show.

I remember I went through a phase when I was a kid, like for six months where I wanted my name to be D'Artagnan.

I just

thought

my parents didn't go for it.

So all right, when you're done, Lindsay, and again, thank you for your time tonight.

And best of luck with the Valentine's Day show.

That sounds like so much fun.

When you get home and you're with your cat, what do you binge watching?

What do you put on the TV?

That's a great question.

Right now, since it's kind of like...

are off season.

I've got a little bit more time on my hands.

I'm I'm definitely enjoying the gilded age.

She's

like historical fiction.

Carrie Coon is an actor that

I love her UW Madison grad in Wisconsin native she is out.

Did you see her in Fargo?

I

haven't seen Fargo actually on my movie list.

Well,

She's in the TV version, I want to say like season three or four.

All the seasons of TV are outstanding and she was great in White Lotus last year too, but I love her.

She's great.

Yeah, that's a great mentor.

So, okay.

Gilded Age, all right, very good.

Well, listen, don't be a stranger.

Keep us posted what's going on there on the other side of the state.

Hope the show crushes next week and I hope all kinds of people fall in love while they're eating wine and Twinkies.

That sounds like a lot of

fun.

I love that, thank you for having me on.

You're welcome.

Okay, that's Lindsay Fry.

Folks, check out the festival theater in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin, especially if you're in the area next week and want a really cool Valentine's Day show.

I can't think of a better way to celebrate Valentine's Day with or without a party.

Conrad, I would go to that show even if my wife stayed home.

That's how cool I think it sounds.

Nightlight road trip?

Nightlight road trip.

We'll get a bus together and we'll go and we'll check it out.

Yeah, I think this Heinz stuff is what are they doing?

They've already really hate them, huh?

No, I don't hate them I just feel like it's greed because they are they're like coke for ketchup You don't have to do anything.

It's Heinz ketchup.

No hunts doesn't come close You know They they've got it.

They've crushed it.

They've mastered ketchup But this the keg chop come on You got to make a keg run we're out of ketchup

It just doesn't make sense.

All right, folks, our question of the night.

We're going to read some of your texts when we come back after news, sports, and weather, which is next, is who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

Sponsored by or inspired by, I should say, by Seth Wickersham, our guest last night for me, SPN.

We're talking quarterbacks.

We've got Matt Miller coming up at 6.35.

And we've got Molly Snyder from OnMilwaukee.com.

And hour number three, I finally made it happen.

I got Molly on the show.

It's going to be a fun night.

Glad you're with me.

It's Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media.

radio network.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back, folks.

Great to have you here on a Wednesday night edition of Nightlight.

We are ending the day on a most positive note, talking about all the things in life that are outstanding, like movies and TV and comedy and music and quarterbacks tonight.

We talked a little musical theater.

If you are just joining the show, Lindsay Fry was my guest in hour number one.

She's the marketing director at the St.

Croix Falls.

Festival Theater in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

Gorgeous area of our state.

And you can catch that on the podcast at civicmedia.us where all our shows are catalogued in podcast form if you missed something good.

Check it out.

Lindsay was fun to talk to and they have a fun Valentine's Day thing going on at a winery there next week in a show with some music, which sounds like fun.

My other guest tonight,

Matt Miller will be here at 635 to talk movies and Oscars.

We always love having Matt on the show.

And then in hour number three at 720, Molly Snyder from OnMilwaukee.com will be here.

Molly does these really cool things.

She writes great articles and she always picks great topics, whether it's like, you know, about

Her annual QWERTY Fest she does, a celebration of the typewriter, adult spelling bees, and I forgot to tell you this, Molly is going to give me a spelling, a little spelling test.

She's going to quiz me.

It's going to be like an adult spell, and it's going to be embarrassing

because I'm not

a particularly good speller.

But can you imagine an adult spelling bee?

I would probably go to watch that and have a couple cocktails.

That would probably be fun to watch.

Yeah, that would be pretty fun.

So Molly will be here.

at 720 and we'll talk to her.

I'm curious because when we talked earlier in December, she said we could talk about dry January, but I wasn't able to get her on the show until tonight.

January is almost over, but we'll ask Molly if she partook and how that went for her.

So we also talked about Heinz Ketchup.

They need to be stopped.

They have the keg chup now for Super Bowl parties.

Always looking for ways to market your product.

I get that.

But they tried to work their product into a smoothie recently a ketchup smoothie Just do ketchup you do it.

Well, it's really good

They also I don't know if you've seen these lays made a ketchup flavored potato chip No, that doesn't sound terrible Surprisingly a lot of people actually liked it.

Yeah, I guess I could see that

And it's potatoes people dip french fries into ketchup.

Yeah, I don't but you know Well, that's good look they're obviously doing something right, but this is a And this is what they say this is their press release and this is from food and wine If you're hosting a Super Bowl party and you're thinking you might need to buy a keg Hines has you covered that is assuming you were thinking about a keg of chop or ketchup

Heinz has just launched something called Kegchup, which is a 19.5-inch 10-pound ketchup dispenser that holds 114 ounces of ketchup.

What is it, like 20 ketchup bottles or something like

that?

Yeah, somewhere around there

probably.

Okay.

It is shaped like a beer keg with a pump dispenser at the top, sort of how you get to ketchup, like at a sporting event.

And you don't have to shake it.

Just squeeze it or wait to pour it out on its own.

You don't have to shake it because you can't.

So unless they have some new shaking science that makes all the particles and everything stay mixed, which I doubt, you probably should shake it.

But they say this is probably way more ketchup than you need unless your Super Bowl party is full or it's a tailgate.

They're making ketchup keg chups available for sale.

And you can enter a contest to get one early, hopefully in time for the Super Bowl, which is...

You know, creeping out for closer.

Uh, they are 175 bucks for 114 ounces.

That sounds like a ripoff con.

How much does a bottle of ketchup, four bucks?

Yeah, it was something around there.

So let's say it's five for Heinz ketchup.

And 114 ounces is like, let's say 15 bottles of ketchup.

That's like 75 bucks.

They're selling these for 175 bucks.

And there are rules to the contest.

All right.

Whatever.

It's good ketchup.

I don't mean to... I don't mean to poo poo.

You could just get a couple bottles.

Just to have him laying around.

I'll be that guy that has Heinz keg chups all over my house anyway.

So our question of the night, folks, is who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

We got a lot of social media responses.

We'll get to those.

Mark from Prairie to Sack in the 608 says, that was not meant for us.

Unless he's telling me not to be a quarterback.

He said sorry don't quit your day job.

This is my day

job He was talking about my kazoo.

Oh Well, that makes sense.

No, it was I should

let's give it another let's hear it Are you sure you want to know but I want to make sure mark is there on the money

here?

Let me get it ready

You must get so many girls

Hello ladies, have you ever heard the kazoo?

Mark Yeah, I don't I don't know that counter heads ready to make the jump to doing the kazoo full time But thank you for your text.

I maybe you know watching the more YouTube videos cuz I'd got basic all the learning I did with that,

you know all the lessons.

Yeah, and it sounds that good.

Yeah

We're shocking.

Steve from Florida, Conrad's dad in the 9-2-0 says, best quarterback of all time is Bart Starr of the Green Bay Packers.

MVP of not only Super Bowl I, but also Super Bowl II.

Great man on and off the field.

That's pretty, you can certainly make an argument for that too.

So are you going by rings?

Are you going by yards, touchdowns?

What a good guy.

And why are they all good looking?

Why all quarterbacks?

Why are they all handsome?

That's just

not.

It's not fair.

Well, it's because they work out literally every second of the day.

Like, wouldn't you love to look like Josh Allen?

Six, seven, mountain of muscle.

Got the Hollywood girlfriend or wife, whatever.

You know, people could say Joe Namath.

I don't know.

But Bart Starr, like, he's before my time, but I've seen highlights.

He won two Super Bowls.

The problem is like the playing field has changed.

And now like Brady, there's no way Brady could have played till he was 45 when he retired.

They protect the heck out of the quarterback now.

You see these highlights of Terry Bradshaw and Montana just getting drilled after the whistle sometimes.

That doesn't happen anymore.

And I'm not saying it's wrong.

I like that they protect the quarterback because if the quarterback goes out injured, it's a pretty sucky game.

Good quarterback play makes the game fun.

I'm all for protecting them.

But when you're judging who is the greatest of all time, you have to take that into account, I think.

Montana was a little guy.

Not little.

He was 6'2", but he wasn't thick.

So I don't know Monica from Mount Horrib says I don't watch football except for usually the Super Bowl So I am hands down the best armchair quarterback with such impressive qualifications Monica you're about as qualified as I am And I did want to play quarterback in high school for about seven seconds And then by the time the ball was hiked and I was like what am I doing?

What am I calling boom?

It's like I don't know how those guys do it So I do admire them for that.

You have to have fast thinking skills Fast thinking skills

Mark from the six oh eight says overrated Dan Marino.

Oh, that's interesting, Mark, because I would have put Marino in that category with like Peyton Manning really good at regular season quarterback, but he never won a Super Bowl.

He went to the Super Bowl against Montana in I think 84.

He might have been a rookie.

And they thought, oh, he'll be back.

He's so great.

I don't think he ever went back to a Super Bowl.

That's just what happens when you play for the Miami Dolphins, you

know, I guess so.

And you know what, the Miami Dolphins are the worst.

Every year when someone threatens that record of theirs to go undefeated and they pop champagne, like, because they're still the only undefeated team, I guess I understand why they do that, but it's pretty annoying.

But Merino had amazing numbers, I will say that.

But I hear where you're coming from.

Thank you, Mark.

Steve also says, in my condiment opinion, Heinz ketchup is only good on a hamburger.

Hot dog, brats, and salty french fries.

Maybe meatloaf.

Ooh, meatloaf, I forgot about that.

Don't you put ketchup in the meatloaf when you make it?

I'm pretty sure.

I think you do.

I don't know.

I never made meatloaf.

And you're like 26?

Dude, no time like the present.

I'll bring

it.

I'll bring it.

I'll bring

it up and bring in a loaf tomorrow.

Will you?

Every everything else doesn't sound right.

The Heinz company should just stick to the 14 ounce glass bottle and nine.

Was that Graham's nine gram packet that made them famous.

Yeah, I agree, Steve.

So 14 ounces.

OK, maybe that's what they think.

I'm Robert from McFarland laces out merino.

What does that mean?

Was he saying Marina's overrated?

Yeah, maybe.

Monica from Mount Horab chimes in again from the 608 and says after contemplating I think Colin Kaepernick could have been a contender had he not been shunned due to protesting civil rights.

I could not agree more Monica that was so ridiculous especially in hindsight as to what's going on now insanity

Thank you for the text Robert Come on con I was expecting you to guide me

there

It's

so funny there's

hilarious

it's so funny

That's great.

Thank you Robert and let's get to some social media text, too We've got Matt Harper says our favorite rock rap artist from here in Green Bay says I'd have to say Brady

You wouldn't get much pushback on that, Matt.

Richel Cascio says he saved every one of us flash.

Gordon.

Yeah, but it's a quarterback?

I don't know.

You know what, Rich?

Stick to wrestling.

Rich is gonna be on the show next week.

I'm so excited to have him back.

Um, Peachwaba, I read that one.

Sean Boyce, Peachwaba.

Young did start right away for the LA Express and then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

That's true, Sean, but I mean, talk about bad teams.

He really didn't get a fair shot.

I still stand by my Steve Young comments and my comment that Troy Aikman is horribly overrated as a quarterback.

I think he's fine as a color guy.

J.B.

Thompson says Carl Davis hands down too bad about his injury early in his career.

He could have been better than Joe Montana.

Who is Carl Davis?

Not sure, actually.

Go to the Google account, will you?

Take a memo.

Richard Vargas says, if I was putting a team together right now and I could pick any QB who ever played to be my starter, it would have to be Joe Montana.

He'd have twice as many Super Bowl rings if he hadn't, if he had been coddled by the officials as some of the favorites, quote, are today.

Totally agree with you, Richard.

I just kind of said something very similar to that.

And he had Bill Walsh.

You know, that's another factor.

Do they have a great coach?

I think Seth Wickersham said something like that yesterday.

Do they have the right coach?

And that is what I will say the Packers have nailed that with coach quarterback pairings.

And Jordan Love, I think, is truly benefited from Matt, I almost said Matt LeBlanc.

Joey from Francis' coach.

Sean Boy says, I'm gagging as I type this, but Tom Brady.

Takes a big man Sean.

Thank you Daniel Kirby Pope on social media says John Elway That's our first vote for John Elway.

You had a Meyer Elway.

He lost I think three in a row or four And then he came back in one two But I don't think the losses were his fault, but he was he was unbelievable player Tim Nicholas on Facebook says Joe Montana agreed Tim Mike Jansen that's a vote for Uncle Rico

Put a nice pretty picture.

Eric Rathsec from Ask Your Mother, one of our favorites says, hard to say, Rodgers made some of the craziest throws.

Obviously Brady won the most chips with really good defenses behind him.

That's true too.

And of course, Montana.

Yes, tough to decide.

Eric also says, Mike Jansen, Uncle Rico, he was excited to see that picture.

Derek Fister also.

posted a picture of Uncle Rico by his van practicing.

So the debate continues, we will read more of your texts when we come back.

Uncle Rico on

one.

Uncle Rico is ahead?

Oh, he's just, he's just great.

He's the best quarterback ever.

He's the best

independent film quarterback.

All right, we come back, we'll read more of your texts.

I'm gonna tell you about a really bad golf bet that went horribly wrong.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.

I'm Pete Schwab, this is Nightlight.

I'm really glad you're here, folks.

It's a great Wednesday night here in the state of Wisconsin.

And things are looking up for all of us because it is staying light out a little later and it's getting a little warmer.

And didn't Corey Hartman say the other day, Civic Media's own Corey Hartman, that he's a master of weather.

And he said it's gonna get warmer.

Yeah, I mean, you know, it went to six degrees now from one...

We went on there when it was nine.

That's not good enough.

All right, so our question of the night is, who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

We got new sports and weather coming up in just about seven minutes, folks.

After that, Matt Miller will be here to talk movies and the Oscars.

And then in hour number three, Molly Snyder from onmawakie.com will be here.

Some more of the texts here we've got NickDB says I'll catch hell for this but Aaron Rodgers.

Before you accuse me of being a homer, I fully admit Bart Starr was maybe the fourth best QB of his era.

Fourth best of his era.

Behind United, Juergensen and Gabriel.

But Bart Starr had all the rings like Tom Brady did.

Same dynamic here, Rodgers is the best peer passer to ever pick up a football.

But when has that alone ever guaranteed championships?

That's true Nick.

He got one though.

He got one.

That's better than Better than it's better than none.

You gotta have a ring I think to be in the conversation.

Do you have to have a ring con?

I mean with all the you know, I would I would say yeah because it means you you know You want to get all the best teams in the league that year and

That's that's interesting.

Yeah Thomas Tebow

A pal of mine from Marinette, chimes in on social media and put a picture of Al Bundy.

Another fictional quarterback, Ed O'Neill.

Beautiful, love it.

Lots of great fictional quarterbacks too.

So keep those texts coming folks.

Dave Kunich on the stream says Ace Ventura, pet detective laces out.

That's a second one.

What is going on?

Sydney Politics says Yo Dave on the stream.

Also Josh McCown, the uncrowned goat.

I'm starting to think Sydney is not taking our texts seriously.

Yeah, Josh McCown didn't have the best career.

Happy New York City.

So let's talk about this con because you found this and then you share it with me yesterday and then I saw it again today and I was like, oh yeah, I forgot about this story.

This guy bet that Scotty Scheffler, where did I see this?

Yeah, Scotty Scheffler, it was, I mean, I saw it on Twitter.

Scotty Scheffler has a record of, you know, I mean, he's one of the best golfers.

He is the best golfer.

Um, as a record of kind of slowing, or starting slow in the beginning of the PGA tour season.

Yeah.

And this guy said, uh, what are the odds Scotty wins this year?

And they're this, this, this, uh, starting event.

Yeah.

And this guy, like retweeted it and said, if Scotty wins, I will eat chili for a whole month from Wendy's.

Yeah, from Wendy's.

Not just

chili.

From Wendy's.

He's eating Wendy's chili.

The only thing he will eat the whole month.

And then this numbskull did not even allow himself to have cheese or crackers in the chili.

So he's eating what is probably no offense to Wendy's, correct me if I'm wrong, but very processed chili with none of the bells or whistles.

Yeah, I'm assuming Wendy's chilies is made from the heart.

No.

And he said, the pain hasn't set in yet.

On day two, he tweeted, breakfast chili is surprisingly underrated, but he did note that he regrets not allowing crackers.

First of all, nobody cares.

Eat the crackers.

It's like, law enforcement is not holding his feet to the fire.

He could change this up.

People go, well, he still ate chili,

you know?

I mean, I respect him for, if it was me, I wouldn't even do it.

Well, yeah.

So what do you respect him?

But it's like, I hate respect.

that you're gonna do it and you're true to your word, I guess.

But here's what's weird about this Conrad.

This isn't a bet he did with a buddy.

Like, the golfer's not his friend.

He just said, if that golfer does this, I'm gonna do this.

It's just because he had so many interactions with that tweet that it, you know, it went viral and then everyone's,

everyone on the comments said, all right, well, you got to eat chili.

Doesn't matter.

Eat the damn crackers and nobody cares.

You could just go on Twitter and say, yes, I'm honoring the bet.

Nobody's

bird-doggin' him.

You could post a picture if you, you know, once a day.

Or just take one picture of you eating chili and just post that every day.

Get

30 shirts, change them, and take a picture, and then just

post them.

You don't

even have to eat it, you know?

I wouldn't.

I wouldn't either.

It's just so... whatever.

15 minutes of fame, I guess, though, right?

Yeah, you know, it's...

that chili does not, it probably doesn't, I've never had it, probably doesn't taste that great.

I've had Wendy's chili.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Is it good?

It's passable if you eat it once and don't eat it again for two years.

It's not bad.

Eating it every day for a month is not advisable on any level.

How much are you spending too?

Maybe he'll get a deal from Wendy's out of this, like that would maybe make it worth it, but.

No.

Like an endorsement deal?

If he gets an endorsement deal for that, well.

It happened, like the dude that ate all the Big Macs from Fondilac.

He's eating 35,000 Big Macs in his life.

Well, yeah, that's a little different.

And he's not even heavy.

Like he's not rocking a six pack.

But, yeah, I don't know, man.

All right, on the stream, Dave says Rich Campbell.

Oh, he was a quarterback, right?

Yeah.

He

played for the Packers like in the 80s or something like that.

Yeah, he played Yeah, okay, and then Dave said sup Sid the bromance continues over the nightlight stream I love it Catherine Lake from Madison says checking in from Madison you flipping rock Pete.

I'll thank you Catherine Isn't it funny that Catherine like?

Is not like like she she's the manager at WMDX, but she has a voice when she reads these ads like an angel.

It's ridiculous She should be on the air right?

I mean not in place of me

I'm just saying.

Thank you, Catherine, for the text.

All right, we are coming back, folks.

Matt Miller, our favorite Milwaukee film critic will be here.

We're going to talk movies and Oscars and have all sorts of fun that you will not want to miss.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Hey, this is Jamie

McChain, and you're listening to Night Light

with Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwabba, and this is Night Light, and that was Jamie McChain.

My sister just told me the other day she saw Task.

Jamie's in Task, and he's great.

Jamie is in everything.

I just started watching Southland.

It was on years ago.

I think it's from 2010.

Such a great cast, and I've heard from law enforcement people that that was the most realistic look at police work that they had seen.

Multiple people.

At least two.

Definition multiple.

But it's good, and Jamie's in that as well, so well done, Conn.

Have you watched Southland yet?

No.

No, I'm not too huge of a cop show guy.

Really?

Yeah.

Interesting.

More of a... Unless Adam Sandler plays a cop, then you're all over it.

Well, yeah, then it'd be a comedy, you know?

Adam Sandler's a cop would just... There's no possible way he could play a serious cop

in any movie.

Agreed.

And I wanted to give a shout out to Kristen Lyrely who flipped out over Sean Cassidy the other night.

She said, Sean Cassidy, and obviously she had a huge crush on him when she was a kid.

And I said, he asked about you.

So that was nice.

And then Connie Filman for tonight's Question of the Night, who was the greatest quarterback of all time.

Says Bart Starr, but let's ask our next guest what he thinks because he is a man of a man about film But also has quite a bit of sports knowledge as well and he's just a lot of fun to have around here on nightlight He joins us periodically from his home base in Milwaukee where he is does outstanding work as a film critic our pal Matt Miller.

Hey, buddy Hey, friend.

Oh, how are you?

I'm doing well.

I'm doing cold.

I like the little sugar thing there.

You snuck in friendo

That's fantastic from

I do.

I do love a friend.

That's

one of those movies, Matt.

I can't turn off when no country for old men is on.

I just I have to watch it.

I don't know.

It's pretty tremendous.

It's one of the years that the Oscars got.

pretty pretty 100 right like and especially during that time you know they're early there's a lot we've gotten a lot more right than wrong in recent years yeah um that hasn't always been the case with the Oscars but i think that no country year well that was an embarrassment of riches they could have done there will be blood they could have done michael clayton even juno is still a really good movie oh no that was the same year

wow what so did did no country win best picture

I did.

It did.

I don't even remember that.

Okay.

Wow.

Well, good for them.

I don't even, I love the movie so much.

I've probably seen it 15 times over the last few years when it's, or since it's come out.

Matt, it's good to have you.

Do you have a vote for best quarterback of all time?

Oh, of all time.

I hate this answer, but it has to be Tom Brady, right?

I mean, I, I don't like saying that because I did not enjoy the Tom Brady era of Patriots football very much.

Um, but it's, it's hard to argue with the resume.

I think there were, there's probably more aesthetically pleasing quarterback play out there.

I think Patrick Mahomes, I enjoy watching him more.

I think, you know, I think Dan Marino, I think, you know, incredible.

quarterback, Steve Young, incredible quarterback.

Steve Young, yes, loved him.

But yeah, it's really hard to argue with the pedigree for Tom Brady and the many different ways he was able to

win.

Indeed, and that's a great answer.

And you're the first person that's mentioned, Patrick Mahomes.

Not that you said he's the greatest, but boy, he's got to be creeping into that conversation if he ever gets back there.

He reminds me a lot of Steph Curry when people have the debate over like, you know, great NBA.

Players were like Steph Curry.

You when you watch Steph Curry play basketball, you're like, this is incredible.

This is one of the greatest like I am.

I'm so entertained by your greatness.

And that's what Patrick Mahomes has when he's really, really good is I am entertained by how great you are at this game and how fun you make this game look.

Tom Brady doesn't have that.

Tom Brady, especially in those later Patriots years, there's a lot of dink and dunk football and it was not.

aesthetically pleasing to watch.

And I think if Patrick Mahomes wins like one or two more Super Bowls, I think that that's a pedigree that I could say, yeah, he's better.

And I enjoyed watching him more.

I said Joe Montana, because he's 4-0.

He's kind of like

Jordan.

He's kind of like Jordan and nobody ever beat him

in the big day.

And Bradshaw too, but Bradshaw didn't have the numbers.

But like, 4-0

was hard to... That was a pretty incredible defense that team had too.

True.

I'm not saying a quarterback doesn't do nothing on a football team, but sometimes, you know, sometimes you're Trent Dillford.

And I think... He's got a ring, yeah.

who has a ring.

I mean, somebody this year, Drake May or Sam Darnold are going to get a Super Bowl ring this year.

And I think we're all going to be really confused about that, maybe in five, 10 years.

Our worlds will be in upheaval, but it's a great debate because you could argue eras, stats, rings, like it's one of those things you could go round and round.

But I'm with you on Brady, like Conrad said, Brady, but he's seven and three.

So getting there 10 times is remarkable.

But

He could just as easily be five and five or four and six.

Not all of those wins.

Atlanta choked and there was one other huge choke that he didn't really...

Totally

they came back.

They had the field goals to beat the Panthers and the Rams to start the dynasty off,

right?

But then you have to like include like, okay, if you don't grant Brady those games, well, then can you grant him the two Giants losses that were basically miracle catches?

You know, right?

If David Tyree doesn't have stick them on his helmet, you know, we're talking about an even better Tom Brady resume.

So

It's a fun thing.

Yeah,

it's a fun debate.

All right.

Well, you are here to talk movies, my friend, and we've got a lot to talk about.

Let's start with the Oscars.

Just right off the bat, Sinner's 16 nominations.

Very impressive, your thoughts.

Historically impressive.

Yeah, you know that is that is not just beating the last record 14 held by all about Eve La La Landed Titanic That is beating it plus one right because I think a lot of people if they had 15 people would be like Oh, they got the new casting Oscar You know is it is as as impressive with the extra awards, but then they got one extra You know they beat it plus one left no do it as a horror movie

You know, I think that's the incredible part.

The Oscars famously not fans of genre movies and now the most nominated movie of all time.

is a genre movie is a horror movie i mean you can argue you know okay it's not you know it's not halloween it's not scream but it is a bloody vampire movie and that is the most nominated movie of all time and it's really kicked the buzz up for that movie i think a lot of people were like oh this is one battle's to lose

yeah

and i still think one battle is the favorite but when you're the most nominated movie in austere history boy

People really start taking your movie a little bit more seriously and start getting really excited to vote for that.

On the one hand, if Ryan Coogler, like, if that film doesn't win Best Picture or Best Director, that is kind of a moral victory.

16 nominations.

However, how do you nominate a film in 16 categories and not say it's the best?

I mean, one battle's right behind it.

And I liked, if I had to choose, I like one battle a little bit better.

But I thought Sinners was a masterpiece from a genre standpoint.

Could Matt, could the Academy, you said they don't like horror films.

Could they vote for that?

Because it's not a horror film through and through.

You know what I mean?

Like it picks its spots.

Yeah.

And it's thoughtful and it's artistic.

Yeah.

And it is a horror movie.

And I mean, it is not out of the reaches.

I mean, obviously, Silence of the Lambs is an best picture winning movie.

It's a horror icon.

But that one is similar to Sinners in that it is, you know,

it's a little bit more thought you know, but you brou know, how could they nomin times and not give it best

That didn't end up winning very much at the end of the day.

Power of the Dog got 12 nominations.

The Irishman, Mank, the most nominated movies often don't come away with best picture.

It just means on some level that they are an achievement across multiple categories, you know, that they have the technical stuff, they have the costume, they have the production, they have the editing, they have the performances, they have the music, you know?

It is an argument that it is such a complete movie.

on that regards that you know something like sentimental value you know the fact that that got eight nominations and it's like a side note you know

yeah right boy that's a great point my guess is Matt Miller he's a Milwaukee based film critic and we are talking about the Oscars he's also seen some films we'll ask him about so in your opinion Matt your humble opinion what is the odds on favorite to win best picture if you had to choose

I think at this moment, and this is written in sand, at this moment I would still go one battle after another, but Sinners has the momentum right now.

I think one battle has so many things going for it in terms of the fact that it is this extremely overdue writer-director in Paul Thomas Anderson.

It is a movie of the moment in which it is a movie about revolutionaries literally rebelling against ice.

that I think what's so interesting this year is that normally when you have two movies competing against each other, they seem like opposites.

You know, you have a aroma versus a green book.

You have a, what's the one that comes to, I had just a second ago, but oftentimes you have these very diametrically opposed movies.

You have a social network, this very up to the moment modern movie against the King's speech.

You know, we tend to have, you have an Oppenheimer versus a Barbie.

And in this

case,

you have two extremely similar narratives where they are these very auteur driven movies that snuck into the studio system and for a pretty good chunk of change, you know, brought an artistic vision to the mainstream.

in a ways that audiences and critics both were like, this rules.

We love

this.

And this isn't a case of like the little indie or like an avatar versus the Hurt Locker.

You know, this is two populist, O-Tour blockbusters head to head, literally released by the same studio that's about to get eaten up by Netflix.

So it's so interesting.

Two directors who are overdue.

who are seen as the creative masterminds of these incredible, passion-forward movies.

It'll be very interesting which one... I can't pick a winner yet, but I can almost assure you it will be a split between director and picture.

They're going to want to give one to the other.

They're going to want to make sure both movies get a deserved bow.

It'll

be... It's really exciting right now.

It's not very often we get an Oscar season where it's like...

Either movie could win and everyone loves them both.

This is this doesn't happen very often.

I agree with you though It is a shame because both of them like I said I like one battle a little bit more just because of the genre like but I

I hate that one of them, because they're both due.

Like you said, Ryan Cooler and Paul Thomas Anderson.

So that's a

great answer.

It's just a shame that all of the losing movies have to get thrown into a volcano after this and never get seen or heard from again.

Oh, that's right.

The Oscars mean nothing really in the long run.

They're just a really fun conversation.

And even if your movie doesn't win Best Picture, it's still a marvelous movie and you should love it forever.

Is there a film you could see sneaking past both of them and winning Best Picture?

If we are talking that hypothetical and it's not off the table that sinners and one battle after another kind of split the populist mainstream out to her vote and something like a Hamnet something more old school like Hamnet sneaks in.

or something like the secret agent, which obviously the Brazilian contingent in the academy is very loud and very powerful in their votes.

The international contingent, maybe they push, though the fact that that didn't get into director tells me maybe they aren't as all powerful as they sometimes seem in these past two years.

It is not an impossibility that we get a weird Shakespeare in love style year where these two favorites kind of duke it out.

and then the old school, you know, kind of classic prestige movie sneaks in to win Best Picture.

I'm hoping that doesn't happen because Hamnet is, as of this moment, my least of the Best Picture nominees, but it's on the table.

It sounded to me like you just said old school should win an Oscar, and I agree with you.

Matt Miller is here.

We're coming right back to talk about actor and actress nominations.

It's a fun discussion.

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It's never too late Matt Miller is here He is our guest joining us live over the stream from Milwaukee where he reviews films and does all kinds of fun stuff Matt, so let's talk about actors and actresses Any favorites any surprises in the nominations?

I was so happy to see Delroy Lindo

get the

best supporting actor in Sinners.

I'm going to mentally make this retroactive to The Five Bloods, which he should have been a walk, just like an easy nomination and probably a win back in 2020.

But I'm just so happy he's finally got his first nomination.

He more than deserves it.

That really made me happy.

That was kind of the big surprise.

I mean, seeing Amy Madigan and weapons get a best supporting actress.

We are not freaking out enough about how that was like a lock.

How like this very strange role in this, you know, surprise smash hit horror movie was like, oh yeah, that's going to be a best supporting actress nominee without a doubt that morning.

So it's across the board this year.

The Oscar nominations are really good.

I think the only one people were complaining about was F1.

And if F1 is your worst best picture nominee, if F1 is the worst kind of Oscar villain of this season, we're doing really good.

And you can think ten nominations too.

That doesn't get nominated if there's still only five nominations, right?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was definitely the last one in, I would bet, F1.

But I mean, you know, if a well-crafted, well-made, old-school, satisfying Hollywood blockbuster, you know, makes it into best picture, you know, I can live with that.

I would much rather that than the days of some utterly forgettable, you know, Weinstein pushed, you know, indie thing that no one remembers a week after the Oscars, you know.

you know, some milk toast thing like that, you know, I much prefer this.

I have not seen Blue Moon.

In fact, I've got six to see of the best pictures, but I, and I haven't seen Marty Supreme.

I've heard Timothy Chalamet is a dark horse.

I love Michael B. Jordan.

I'd be really...

He's not a dark horse.

He is the white

horse.

He is

the whatever the opposite of a dark horse is.

He's

the

leading candidate.

He's the radiant horse.

Is he the leading candidate over Michael B. Jordan?

Yes,

okay

as of right now.

Yes.

He was that good, huh?

I think he hold he is the reason why that movie works and there's already the sense of like listen He wants it and he's good and he's kind of already overdue I think he's gonna walk away with that one pretty comfortably unless you know what was we have

a month and a half

so a

lot can happen and I do think there is some resistance to a giving a younger actor best actor they don't tend to do that and giving it to somebody who is you know a star in the way that he is you know it took Leo a long time to get his Oscar um because there was reluctance to being like he's so young he's so bratty he's dating a Jenner you know there's

a lot of

things people

present about him, but I don't think people can hold that performance against

him.

And he's kind of like the Caleb Williams, Todd Morinovich, whatever, he's like been groomed for this.

He's kind of a nepo baby, but he's been, you know, but so you're right, maybe that would work against him, but he was great in the Dylan film too.

And I didn't think he'd win for that, but I was impressed by that.

But any of these actors really, I think would be would be great.

I find it

It would be hard for me to believe Leo DiCaprio would win for one battle after another.

He was great, but I don't know.

He's so good, but they don't love comedy.

And they don't love Doofy Leo.

Like

I

always say.

I

love

Doofy Leo.

That is the best Leonardo

DiCaprio

bar none.

And it is absolutely a travesty that he won his Oscar for doing sad grunts in the cold.

The Revenant, right?

Yeah, right.

a movie that no one thinks about or watches anymore.

And then he's so good in the Wolf of Wall Street, being so funny and, you know, repulsive

in a

compelling way.

It's a shame.

But, you know, that's not the answer.

The Oscars rarely get it

right.

Yeah.

What about best?

Would you go with Delroy Linda?

I have to say, Sean Penn, you know, he's he's great.

I wouldn't even be upset if he won.

He's that good because.

He took big swings with that role and it worked.

And, uh, you know, but I, Delroy Lindo, I love him too.

I, it's, it's great.

I mean, it's tough.

Yeah.

It's easily, I would say that's the most interesting of all of the big categories because truly anybody could win best supporting actor this year.

I think

Sean Penn and Benicio Del Toro.

are maybe your front runners, but they're such different performances.

Sean Penn is so mannered and so ticky.

Benicio del Toro, so natural, so fun to be with in

that movie.

And you know, are they going to split the one battle after another vote?

and then does somebody sneak in?

Does a Jacob Elordi sneak in for

a

very committed, you know, really impressive physical performance in Frankenstein?

Does Stellan Skarsgard win?

Does he kind of win the honorary, you know, Lifetime Achievement Award for sentimental value for like, hey, you're great in this movie and you've been great for your entire

career?

Everything, yeah.

Does Delroy Lindo sneak in?

Because now he's got this momentum, you know, it's, it, it,

If you're a betting person, stay far away from this category,

because

truly it is a crapshoot in a very exciting way.

Matt, I would love to keep you for a few minutes after the news if you're game, because I want to ask you about some of the films you've seen, the newer stuff, but can we do that?

I would love that.

You talked about people not...

seeing the Oscar movies yet.

Yeah, I have a guide, especially from Milwaukee area people to where you can find all of the Oscar nominees both on streaming and in movie theaters.

So if you're looking for them, I have them on my sub stack.

All right, check out Matt Miller, a man about film sub stack.

That's great.

I'm glad you said that.

When we come back, we're going to talk best actress, best supporting actress and Matt's seen a couple films I want to ask him about to including song sung blue, which I'm halfway through.

Finally, I can finally call myself a Wisconsinite again once I get through this film.

But Kate Hudson.

Oh my gosh.

So great.

We'll talk about all of this with Matt after the news.

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Um, so Matt, let's get back into this.

Like we talked about actors.

Let's cover actresses.

I know Jesse Buckley, I think is the favorite by all accounts, or at least based on what I've read.

But like I said, right before the break, I've only seen half the movie, but I love it so far.

And I love Kate Hudson.

Yeah, excellent.

I was very surprised by how much I liked Kate Hudson and song song blue She's not an actress.

I've particularly had a shine for not same career.

Yeah, and I think she

really pops in that movie, both in the kind of more fun first half and also in the second half where it gets into the much heavier.

I don't know if you've gotten there yet.

The movie starts getting to be a real bummer about the halfway point.

But she's really good in all of it.

And I'm happy to see her get, you know, get some flowers here.

It's a deserved performance.

You don't, in this day and age, in this Oscar era, you don't often see these kind of standalone nominations.

because Oscar voters, they get very married to the 10, 15 movies that they know they have to watch every season.

I have this theory that they really just kind of lock in on a few movies and you don't see the kind of diversity of films that we used to get nominated.

So it's nice to see that voters made time to see Song Song Blue and to really appreciate what she did in that movie.

She's really the stand out

there.

You know, it's so crazy so far, like I said, I'm an hour into it.

She...

Just is that person Claire Sardina, I think like they don't look that much alike, but she loses herself and you think you're watching this person She did the accent subtly enough where she sounds like she's from Wisconsin.

I don't think we can go with subtle on the accent.

Well, it's

not listen I made a film where I had the accents and Tony Goldwyn spur the moment did his best.

I've seen the accent

done, you know, if he had more time, he could have done a better job.

But I think it's a tough accent to nail because Wisconsinites will nitpick you.

They'll say, that's UP.

That's Minnesota.

That's Canada.

It's a tough, it's like Northern Ireland and the Brogues.

So, but I thought she did a great job.

And I did not think that about Hugh Jackman.

I think he's great.

But man, the whole time I'm like, she looks the part Hugh Jackman looks like Hugh Jackman in a wig.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't know if it's the best deployment of your Hugh Jackman, even beyond the fact that he doesn't even bother at all with any accent, which is fine.

I'd rather that than him struggle through one.

I just think Hugh Jackman is such a performer, all caps.

There's something about him that sometimes comes off disingenuous and like an act.

And I think in a movie like this, where you need it to be kind of earnest, I think I kind of bristle against that performance.

I think it works really well in something like The Greatest Showman, where you kind of he is on some level in that movie.

So you need that kind of level.

And I think maybe he doesn't quite play as well, which maybe that's why Kate Hudson popped so much in that movie is she feels so lived in and so warm in that movie.

And he kind of is a harder, harder kind of fit.

I think, yeah, I think the right person is getting laudits for that.

Very, very well said.

I love your sub-stack too here.

You've been really busy there, which is so great because I love everything you write, but check out Matt's sub-stack.

And he talks about the Oscar nominations and where you can see all the Oscar nominated movies right now, specifically, or more specifically, I should say, in Milwaukee.

We're talking about the best actress nominations and now we'll go to the best supporting

actress.

Yeah, I should know.

Luckily, he's going to win.

like yeah if we didn't talk if we don't talk a lot about the actress categories it's just because they're less fun this year yeah because then jesse buckley is your obvious winner for actress and in supporting actress tayana taylor i think is kind of your runaway winner there she's

such a powerhouse and that first third of one battle after another.

And you need her to be because her ghost needs to hang over that movie.

And I think that part is a little underwritten, honestly.

I think I can use a little bit more depth of like, I want one or two more scenes with that character to make them come together a little bit more.

But I think her performance is so good that you kind of don't realize it and you kind of go with it.

And I think she's really incredible.

And if you like her in one battle after another, she's in another movie.

I believe it's called a thousand and one that came out very quietly two or three years ago.

Small indie movie.

She's tremendous in that as well.

So if you really liked her in one battle after another, definitely check that one out as well.

I'll confirm that's the name of that movie.

But yeah, I think she's going to be crowned when it comes to best supporting actors.

I hope you're right because I loved her in that movie.

And I will say that.

agreeing with what you said, I don't think she has a ton of redeeming qualities other than the fact that she's a revolutionary and willing to fight the good fight and passionate about her cause, but man, she's not a great mom.

She's not a great, and she believes, you know?

Yeah, I think the sharp performance brings out the shades that that

character needs.

I think on the page, that character, like you said, kind of unsympathetic, but I think her performance brings out

the

kind of most heartom feelings that that character is dealing with and the kind of, you know, the emotional conflict that she's dealing with that she's like, I have this passion.

I have this need, this desire to be out there doing stuff.

And

I can't, my life is changing.

And I think she plays that much more than the script

does.

That's a great point.

And you're right.

And she's so intense.

She's so good in the film.

I kind of hope she wins too.

But I will say, I know you didn't see this movie yet, but the rip, she's in that, has a much smaller role and she's good in it.

But what are your thoughts, Matt, on every once in a while, I go on a rant against an actor I don't like.

Conrad has to sit through them.

Mark Wahlberg, he doesn't ever need to make another movie again.

Ben Affleck, I kind of feel the same way.

And I like him a lot as a director.

But man, the contrast between he and Matt Damon, like Matt Damon is natural.

I think he's a good actor.

Ben Affleck poses with this cigarette throughout.

I'm like, stop it.

You're like a kid playing movie in your backyard and you don't have to do that.

Like, I don't know.

What are your thoughts on Ben Affleck?

I think Ben Affleck can be really good, but he is a particular tool for a particular job sometimes.

I think he's really well deployed in something like Gone Girl that kind of utilizes his doofy Ben Affleckness really well.

I think he was really good in the sports movie The Way Back that came out right

before

the pandemic that kind of got lost in obviously, you know, the world.

Closing right um, he's really good in that but that again That's another movie that kind of smartly deploys him as kind of you know a sad sack alcoholic guy whose life is falling apart I think if there's not much for him to do Ben Affleck can be really bored and therefore really boring Um, but he's really excited by something.

I think he really he can he can be really well-used.

All right, that's got a little rip yet.

I wish the rip

got a theatrical release, and therefore I could see it there.

But you know, sometimes life is hard.

It doesn't look like a Netflix film, which makes me think maybe that's where they were angling for originally, but I will say that smoking is already cool.

You don't have to try to be cooler with the cigarette than Affleck.

All right, I'll move on.

So Matt, you've also seen, I want to hear about these films because I have not seen 28 Years Bone Temple yet, and I loved the last one.

What did you think?

Yeah, this is the zombie sequel to last year's 28 years later.

I was a little disappointed by this I think you know 28 years later coming back coming back to this franchise Danny Boyle coming back to it after directing the first one the the incredible 28 days later

Yeah,

and it had such this unique energy and this unique visual look and this really thought-out

Idea of what the world what the Britain would be like 28 years later after the rage virus rampage through it And I just didn't find the same depth of development in the bone temple I think if you like a gory zombie movie There's you know, it's a it's a it's an interesting time with that It's got some interesting ideas that kind of is poking at and gesturing at but I just don't think it comes together in a particularly satisfying way and I think if you let

the last movie being like, I want to know what the jimmies are all about.

This weird trope, this weird troupe of, you know, demonic, you know, Jimmy Savile looking dudes roaming the countryside.

I don't think they get much depth beyond a very surface level.

Oh boy, like walking dead style, humanity is the greatest villain of all.

It's like, you know, I had eight seasons of that, you know, bring something new.

I do think Ray finds is great.

I like his subplot, this kind of, you know, this loner trying to figure out if anything can be done about the zombies.

Um, but yeah, a little disappointed by, by 28 years later, it's, it's not not worthwhile, but it is not transcendent the way last year's

was.

Great, great answer.

One more before we let you go, Matt primate, what did you think of primate?

It sounded really fun when I was reading about it.

Yeah, obviously an Oscar contender about murderous rampaging ape.

It is extremely dumb.

It is January through and through in terms of being an extremely stupid movie.

You're gonna have a little bit of fun with it though.

If you're like a horror sicko and you like gory

you know, mean-spirited movies, horror movies.

This is a lot of fun.

It dispatches a lot of annoying people in really brutal ways.

And, you know, it is the most entertained I've been by a murderous rampaging ape movie this year.

So congratulations.

Here's your Oscar.

If you see one murderous ape movie this year, make it primate.

Matt, always fun, buddy.

Thank you so much.

Let me know when you see Train Dreams and we'll circle back and I'll

catch

up on some of the movies too.

This has been really a fun discussion.

I should let people know it looks like that's going to be included into Marcus Theaters' Best Picture Showcase this year.

Oh, wow.

Normally Netflix movies don't get included because, you know, Netflix is Netflix.

Yeah.

But it looks like Frankenstein and Train Dreams are in there, those showcases.

So if you want to see those on the big screen.

I think you can this year.

Hopefully that stays where it's at.

But yeah, I'm very much looking forward to seeing that hopefully on the big

screen.

All right, outstanding.

Thank you, buddy, as always.

Have a great night.

Thanks for the extra minutes here.

No, an absolute pleasure.

Anytime for

you.

All right, buddy.

That's Matt Miller.

Check out his work at a Man About film on Substack.

He does great work there and love his movie reviews as well.

We've got a couple texts we got to get to here, Conrad.

Catherine Lake put LOL in a broken heart.

Maybe she meant a regular heart.

Did

I say

something bad?

I don't think so.

Did I break her heart over the radio?

I complimented her voice.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think we're all good.

Tony the trucker in the 608 says, Pete, just for fun, great motto.

You can beat our pack, but you can't lick our Dickie.

Referring to former Green Bay quarterback Lynn Dickie.

Interesting lineup.

Lynn Dickey has not been mentioned tonight.

It's one of the all-time greatest quarterbacks.

And then in the 9-2-0, oh, here's Connie Feldman's text.

Again, Bart Starr hands down two words.

Ice Bowl, win show minus 40.

Like to see Brady handle that both on and off the field.

Bart Starr, baby.

Thank you, Connie.

We are coming right back with OnMilwaukee.com, senior writer, Molly Snyder.

Just

lip-syncing.

Just lip-syncing.

Harmless fun.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.

Great to have you with me on this gorgeous Wednesday night in the state of Wisconsin, folks.

We did get another text here.

Our text line has been blowing up with people's suggestions of who were the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

Brian in Green Bay says, T.J.

Rubly.

Probably don't know him, do you, Con?

I looked him up.

I think he was joking.

He had 195 pass attempts.

But he completed 112, and he had a positive TD to interception ratio of 8 to 7.

What a beast.

Yeah, so you could see why he would be.

Thank you, Brian.

Brian's cheeky, I think.

He always, I like his texts.

I'd say Kurt Benkert.

Don't know who that is.

He was the third string quarterback when Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love, you know, were playing together.

And he was a third string one time.

He nailed it for the win.

That's his only snap.

God, I could do that.

Probably still fumble.

All right, we are going to keep this thing moving here.

I am very excited to welcome my next guest.

I've been trying to have her on the show for years.

She has shunned me.

She has said, no, thank you.

She has said, please stop bothering me.

And finally, she relented.

She is an outstanding senior writer at OnMilwaukee.com.

And it's great to have her here at Nightlight for the first time, Miss Molly Snyder.

Hi, Molly.

Oh, I think you're muted.

I think you're muted, Molly.

I don't know if you can hear me.

We've got Molly Snyder here.

We'll figure this out soon folks.

She does outstanding work and Just to just to give you a little tease about what we're gonna do here.

We probably won't get to it before the news but Molly is She is she wrote an article recently about an adult spelling bee

And she is gonna give me some words to spell.

I'm gonna kind of take an adult spelling bee here tonight, and we'll do that, and I'm sure I'll look quite foolish, but it'll be fun.

Do we have Molly?

Did we figure out her?

Oh, she's still muted.

Okay, we'll figure this out.

Conn is, you need to go to the car and get the tools, Conn, right?

Had that awkward laugh, like, oh dear.

We'll get Molly, we'll get this straightened out.

We had this issue yesterday with Seth Wickersham, and we rallied, and it ended up being a great.

Talk so we'll do that as well and we'll get Molly squared away here and get her on the air with us.

It'll be fun Let's do another oh here.

We go Brian says TJ audibled out of a play and lost a big game Biggest fail.

Oh, you don't want to be known for that.

That's terrible Good memory though Brian.

I'm impressed that Brian remembers that

We had, in case you missed my interview with Matt Miller, we talked Oscars and movies, folks.

You can check that out at civicmedia.us, where all of our shows are logged in podcast form.

And in hour number one, we talked about Heinz Ketchup and their ridiculous marketing campaigns.

And we talked to Lindsay Fry from the Festival Theater in St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

And we will have Molly Snyder from onmawakie.com here momentarily.

That was really interesting what Matt said about Song Song Blue and I want to ask Molly about this too because she wrote an article about the film and 13 things or Observations she had about the movie and like I said, I'm only an hour into this thing But I have I agree with what she said she made some really good points So we'll talk to her about that as well and the adult spelling bee and a really cool thing she has coming up called

Quarty Fest, which is a celebration of the typewriter and Molly's been doing this for a while.

And so we'll talk about all those things with Molly when we get her on the phone.

Conrad shared this the other day, which I thought was funny.

There's a father who had a little too much to drink.

And he didn't want to get a DUI.

This is in Belgium.

I don't know if the laws are different there, Conrad or not.

I assume it's relatively the same.

Got to be

a little

more lax, right?

I mean, I would never consider what this guy did.

He had too much to drink.

So he turned the wheel over to his 12 year old son who had no driving experience.

He said, I had drunk too much and entrusted my car to my son to drive home.

The dad told the police, mom and two siblings were in the back seat.

The boy was fine for driving without a license.

Dad was charged for entrusting the car to someone not fit to drive it.

After the traffic stop mom drove the rest of the way home All right Conrad Maybe that's you know a card you play right away Maybe just have the mom drive home from the get-go That's what I was thinking too.

I'm bad of a driver was the mom that he turned the wheel over to the 12 year old Yeah, I don't know and the kids shouldn't even be they shouldn't even have given the kid a ticket Like what's he gonna do?

His dad's making him drive the car.

His dad's definitely paying that ticket.

I guess so.

We might have Molly here.

Oh, do we have Molly?

Hi, Molly.

Can you hear us?

I can.

Can you hear

me?

Hey, yeah.

How's it going tonight, Molly?

Awesome.

All right.

I'm doing well.

I'm glad to hear that.

You're joining us from beautiful Milwaukee, Wisconsin, your hometown, and there is no one more Milwaukee or more patriotic about Milwaukee than Molly Snyder, in my experience.

Well, thank you for saying that I completely I completely agree.

I think maybe you know, I'm in the top five.

How about

that?

It's safe to say We just have about a minute and a half before the news then we'll jump into some of these great topics that I can't wait to discuss with you But do you have an opinion on who is the greatest quarterback ever?

I have zero opinion on that.

Two of my guests have just kind of checked out of that.

The first one said Barbara Streisand because she's a theater girl, which I loved that answer.

And then real quick, we've got about a minute before the news, but we initially started talking in December about having you on.

And you said we could talk about dry December, but by the time we got our schedules aligned, or at the end of January, did you do anything for dry December?

Uh, I did dry January.

So yes, I

am.

Okay.

Yes.

So I am, uh, 28 days solid.

And, uh, I think I'm going to make it at this point.

So at least still, you know, the question is, am I going to have a drink at 1201?

It is a Saturday night this, this weekend.

Uh, you know, I would, it's February 1st, probably not.

But, uh, yes, I did, I did partake, uh, in dry January.

I, I prefer to look at it like a, a dry bender.

So that's, you know, sounds more fun.

Spoken like a true fun drinker.

And if you wait till 1201, you've obviously earned it.

All right, Molly's here.

We're going to get into adult spelling bees and QWERTY Fest and all kinds of fun stuff after the news.

It is so great to have you here, folks.

And it's great to have Molly here.

It's Pete Schwabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

We'll see you next time.

Welcome

back.

This is Nightlight with Peach Wabba.

I am Peach Wabba.

Tomorrow night on the show, we will have a Joe Schwabba quick thumbnail movie review.

Adam Hess.

One of our civic media colleagues here will make the popcorn pick of the week at 6.35.

And then novelist Becky Ferrara, author of First Contact, will be here in Act 3.

So right now, we got to get back at it, because Molly Snyder is here.

I'm very excited to have her on the show.

And she joins us from Milwaukee.

She is a senior writer at OnMilwaukee.com.

If you haven't checked out onmawakie.com, it's a great read, whether you live in Milwaukee or not.

They write about really cool stuff, and Molly kind of leads the way there.

I don't even know where to start, Molly, because I want to talk song-sung blue with you.

I want to talk adult spelling.

Let's start with QWERTY Fest.

This is a really cool thing that you started, and I find typewriters crazy romantic.

I love when I'm watching a movie and there's a writer hunched over, pecking away.

Having said that, I've been a writer since I was 25.

I don't think I would do it if I had to use a typewriter.

Right.

The celebration that I co-organize is called Quartifast, as you said.

And it's really a celebration of the fact that the typewriter was invented in Milwaukee 150 plus years ago.

And a lot of Milwaukeeans, myself included, just

didn't didn't know that you know I went all through you know Milwaukee schools I wouldn't my degrees are from UW-Milwaukee uh English you know I'm a writer since I was a kid never once you know did anyone tell me uh that the typewriter was invented in Milwaukee by someone named Christopher Latham Scholes and when it

You know when I when I found out about it now, this is maybe 15 20 or more, you know years ago I said someday I want to do something to celebrate this more I just thought it was really strange that we don't You know shout it from the rooftops because it's not just the typewriter the QWERTY keyboard QWERTY is where the name QWERTY Fest comes from QWERTY is the top line of letters on our keyboards QWERTY That's still on our computers and on our phones today

So it's not just a writer, which is yes, romantic.

And yes, as a writer, I love them.

And no, I don't want to write my on Milwaukee articles on them.

But I really appreciate them.

But the fact that the QWERTY keyboard has passed the test of time and is now a part of everyone's daily life in the United States or in English-speaking countries as well.

It's just so remarkable that we have this piece of history that was so under celebrated.

I totally agree with you on all of that, and it is kind of amazing.

I didn't know there were other, or if even other suggestions had been made to reorganize the keyboard, but tell us what the festival is.

It is cool, it's great, but what do you do at a festival about typewriters

or the convention

thereof?

right sounds like total nerd alert and it is kind of but it's not no we celebrate

creativity, art, music, writing, all of it.

We have an opening night party at Turner Hall in Milwaukee, which is a large ballroom.

Very cool.

We have bands play.

We have vendors.

This year we had the Boston Typewriter Orchestra was our main band, and they are just what they sound like.

They are a typewriter orchestra from Boston, who play everything from classical to death metal, only on typewriters.

We had

We had brunches, we had typins, we had a whole day of presentations at our gorgeous downtown public library.

We also had social events.

We were at the newsroom pub, which is the official pub of the Milwaukee Press Club.

We had poetry readings and slams, and it's just a whole weekend of celebrating, yes, the typewriter, but also

all forms of writing, of art, again, and also other forms of analog.

We really brought that in this year because we brought in people who love film photography and people who love vinyl records.

And, you know, again, it's not that these people are, you know, we like this only.

We still love to stream music.

We still love our, you know, type on our, on our Macs.

But the thing is we love both.

And that's what the message we're trying to get across is that it's not picking one or the other.

It's just having room for both.

That's interesting.

And that's a great segue to non-screen hobbies, something you texted me about today.

I had never heard that term before.

But let's elaborate on that a little bit.

People have to force themselves to do these things, right?

So they don't spend too much time on their phone, which we all do.

Yes, it's very intentional, but it's also very, very popular right now.

There's a number of studies out there, a number of just so much been written, you know, that I read before I wrote my own piece about the return of popularity of old-fashioned hobbies and non-screen activities.

And it's the same thing like with Quartifest that, you know, people, the typewriter is very popular again.

Taylor Swift loves the typewriter and she's helped us make it even more popular.

She put it in some of her videos, but not just that, but these analog types of technology are returning in popularity because the farther we go with digital technology, the more many people long for the

Easier technology the more hands-on technology people want the imperfect technology They they want you know the sticky key on a typewriter because you can't replicate that in a font they want To have a record that you know might sound a little crackly and poppy rather than hearing a perfect recording You know this is coming.

This is what people are craving and they're going back to analog technology again not to replace

modern-day digital technology, but to enhance their entertainment experience and their art experience

and reintroduce a little grit There's nothing wrong with that crack vinyl sound and like I I miss the days I always say I wish Technology had stopped before smartphones.

I loved having a cell phone and being able to talk to people in my car not text them, but actually talk But I wish it had kind of stopped there and I

What you're saying, all these non-screen things, you can't use an avatar.

It's just you.

You have to talk.

You have to have a conversation.

You go on X and see these horrible things are typically written by people.

They don't have a picture.

They don't have the real name.

It's all this cowardice.

So I love this non-screen hobby.

Is there a potential festival for that in the near future on Molly Snyder's

dance

card?

You know, I've thought about it again.

I am bringing it into QWERTY Fest We did start with it last year We are gonna expand on that and keep expanding on that because you know, it's just it's so similar in the philosophy of it and just in in the hands on the tactile media I'm a person I have a Kindle I you know, I read I read books both on screens and I read a lot of books still off-screen

I love to hold a book in my hand.

I'm one of those people.

I always will.

I love to collect books.

I even love to smell books.

I don't know.

But it's just something that you can't replace that, even though it's not as convenient.

And I will give 100% to convenience when it comes to digital technology.

And I love convenience, of course we do.

But if you're not looking always for convenience, it's just something

really rewarding, really special when you're able to touch your media and feel your media in your hands.

Totally agree.

My guest is Molly Snyder.

She does great work at Milwaukee on Milwaukee.com.

And she writes about some of the things we're talking about here, things that you don't typically see in other outlets.

And that's why I love on Milwaukee.

I was sad to see Jeff Sherman leave.

He was such a good guy.

I didn't know him well, but I really liked Jeff.

So I'm trying to figure out what, there's so much I wanted to, I do want to talk about Song Song Blue.

Leverton Shirley had their 50th anniversary.

You know what's funny Molly?

That opening song, nothing's gonna keep us down now or whatever.

It's like this inspiring song.

And I'm like, well, nothing's going to talk them out of renting a garden apartment with one bedroom in Milwaukee.

That's not exactly aiming high.

No, but it was the time.

And they were single women that they held their own jobs.

They had boyfriends, but they weren't married.

They took care of themselves.

This was fairly revolutionary in the 70s when this came out for women who were in their 30s.

uh, that presumably we're not lesbians, you know, that we're, you know, platonic roommates and we're still choosing to live, you know, this single gal's life and have their own money and have their own space.

And we're not afraid

to rodeo-do-do at times either, which is nice, you know, talk about it openly, you know.

Uh,

but I love that it was shots.

My uncle worked at Schlitz for 16 years.

So that's why I think I probably loved Laverne and Trillie.

But let's talk about, um,

Well, I want to ask you another thing too.

You did a great article about ADHD and how a lot of women, adult women are being diagnosed with this.

How did you find this topic and what did you learn about it?

I am a woman that was diagnosed with ADHD when I was middle age.

And it was something that I kind of always suspected.

because it presents itself very differently.

A lot of times people think, and especially in men or in boys, it presents itself as hyperactivity.

And in women, it usually does not.

It's very different.

There's many different ways.

I always knew my brain worked a little differently.

It wasn't because I went on Grateful Dead tour when I was a teenager and might or may or may not have experimented with some this or that.

However, I always knew my brain worked differently and I just,

it didn't really matter to me but I just decided because I have you know insurance and because I can and I had other people who were women in my life who told me they had done this I decided to get tested once I got diagnosed um I started reading as much as I can about it just because I was curious and I found that this is something that's happening all over the country so many women are being diagnosed now you know in their 30s and 40s and 50s

Because we weren't a problem in school a lot of us were even good good students So there was never a reason to really look into why our brains work differently But we always yet there were some very obvious signs that we were we were a lot of us were daydreamers That was my big thing.

I wasn't paying attention.

I was thinking about something else You know, it was like that kind of stuff that didn't disrupt the class so teachers didn't

do anything about it.

But at the same time, you know, I knew.

And it's really interesting because then once you get diagnosed in middle age or 30s or whatever is, you know, third age or you have to make the decision whether or not you want to be medicated.

And I decided no, because I built an entire life around this the way this brain works.

And, you know, it's working for me.

You know, do I lose my keys and my phone?

Like seven times a day.

Yes would being medicated maybe take stop that yes, but overall like even the way I work I you know, I'm a writer I have to take breaks, you know, I do everything in chunks, but it's like I I'm okay with the way my brain works differently.

I'm just glad that I know What's going on up there finally?

Oh, that's a great answer.

Yeah, that's it was a fascinating article and you're right You always think about boys or men being kind of like

kind of jackass-y when they have crazy and running around, but it's very interesting.

The most interesting part of that to me was how it affects women so differently.

And I shared it with my wife, we had a good discussion about it, and I told her I was gonna come on the air all her dirty laundry too, and she actually

believed me, so I'm not gonna do

that.

So we'll do, let's do this.

Tell us about the adult spelling bee.

I love this and I love that there are cocktails involved and all this fun stuff.

It sounds like such a Milwaukee event to me.

It is and tickets are on sale right now.

This is the on Milwaukee adult spelling bee.

I just want to clarify by adult spelling bee.

I mean it's 21 and over because it is a drinking event.

It's not X-rated words, which people the first year got a little confused by.

This is our fifth year then year.

And I think it's pretty clear.

It sells out every year.

We have 25 of the city's best spellers.

They sign up for this.

They compete.

And then we have an audience full of people who cheer them on.

And we also have some spelling games.

We have a bar.

We have DJ.

Wow.

of a word spelling related music.

It's super fun.

So it's like a spelling party.

And it is something, again, that people who are not, you know, great spellers, it's not about being a great speller.

You don't have to be a great speller.

It's about coming out and just watching something remarkable.

First of all, the people that do spell are amazing.

Let's

pick up right there.

Okay.

We got to do a very short break and I'm going to get cut off here.

We'll come back and we'll talk to Molly about this.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight.

stretch here.

This has been a fun show.

Thank you for being with me tonight.

Thank you for all your texts and calls, folks.

I would like to thank my guests, Lindsay Fry from the Festival Theater in St.

Croix Falls, Matt Miller, Milwaukee Film Critic.

Always fun to talk to Matt and my current guest.

Molly Snyder, who does great work at onmawakie.com.

We are talking about adult spelling bees with Molly, and I apologize for cutting you off.

You were getting so passionate about it, but the computer just takes over if I don't.

So it was my bad for asking you a question with so little time left, but it sounds like a really fun event.

Yes, it really is.

It's something when we first started, we thought to people, will they come?

Will they come?

to an adult spelling bee and they came in droves.

It ties into what we were talking about before, just something that's either different.

Again, it's not including a screen.

It's just very interactive and it's for everyone.

It's not just for...

people who are really into spelling.

You know, it's just fun.

Right.

It's community.

So, and, you know, this is Wisconsin.

So if you throw a few back while you're watching a spelling bee, it's like, you can probably tailgate it, something like this.

So I suggested when you came by, when you were here tonight, that we do a spelling bee together, Conrad, you said.

I'm not a great speller.

Can I just give you some words?

I'm probably an even worse speller than you, which is bad because we're both writers.

But if you have if you have words, I would love to take a crack at them.

I do, actually.

And let's, you know, let's just circle back and say that's one thing the typewriter doesn't have a spell check.

And let me tell

you, that is something I really mean.

So I hear you.

One of the words that I'm going to that I was going to give you tonight is.

Ac-we-esque.

Oh, God.

That's a tough.

ACQ.

I-E-S.

No, wait.

Q-U-E.

No.

Like, even in the

ballpark?

Yes.

Yeah, you were in the ballpark.

I started strong,

right?

You started really strong.

Okay.

And I'm... Okay, so it's ACQ.

U-I-E-S-C-E.

S-C-E, yes.

Okay, now I can picture

it.

No, it's that S and the C that really get you.

It's a verb and for those who care, it means it's basically when it's something with...

Just giving in to something.

Giving in.

Yeah, I actually asked.

Yeah.

Conrad, go ahead.

You can hit the buzzer if you want.

I know you're itching to do that over there.

No, I got it wrong.

But I'll take the credit.

All right, well, this is the fail one.

Okay, there we go.

All right, next word.

I got to redeem myself here.

Okay, well, this is kind of the classic spelling bee word that

every spelling bee pretty much.

It's not lieutenant.

It's not lieutenant, is it?

It's not.

Oh, thank God.

OK.

But that's a good one.

It's OK.

It's onomatopoeia.

Do you know that word onomatopoeia?

Just hold it up to the glass so I can see it.

No, I'm sorry.

Yes,

Molly.

OK.

Go cheating.

Onomatopoeia.

It's the word that sounds

like it's spelled and

it sounds like what it is, like all dogs, you know, woof, woof.

Right.

Cuckoo.

uh, you know, or, uh, swoosh, you know, it's a word that the way it sounds is the way that it is spelled and the way it's said.

So it's called Anomaro Pia.

And it is like in the spelling bee world, it's kind of a almost a stereotypical spelling.

That's a tough one.

Yeah.

Give it a shot.

I'm going to take a stab.

There's so many vowels.

I know.

And I'm going to go phonetics and just say, oh, I'm sure I'm already wrong.

Oh, and.

E-M-O-N-P-I-A

No, but, you know.

I love that it's so game show.

It's O-N-O-M-A-T-O-P-O-E-I-A.

Oh, that's not even fair.

That was mean of me.

That was mean of me to give you that one.

Not sorry.

Oh, God, that's tough.

All right, I think we got time for one more.

And I hope you'll come back soon and we talk about, you know, in honor of your visit here tonight, Molly, and I loved your article about Song Song Blue.

And I want to talk about that with you.

So hopefully we can line something up in the next month or something.

You come back.

Cause I would love to discuss that article with like what I called you before, so Milwaukee and just I would love to hear your thoughts on that.

So let's do that another time.

But if you have.

I'd love to.

Okay.

And if you have one more word, I think we can squeeze one more in here before we say.

All right.

Let's do a little easier one.

How about vigilante?

I was hoping you'd say, like, vuh.

All right.

Sorry.

Vigilante, V-I-G-I-L.

This is I-E-N-T-E.

There we go.

That was dope.

You were very close.

It's A-N-T-E, but you were very close.

That's

the worst because I can picture them now after having gotten them wrong.

Right.

There's no consolation.

Right.

And

that's the thing is spelling out loud is very different than when you've been typing

or

you can see it or reading.

Yes.

And that's why like people in the spelling bee can't have a pen and paper, but they can use their finger and draw the word on their leg, which is really strange.

Oh, yeah.

So many people do that.

So I, you know,

it's all

about our mind games.

Okay.

You are extremely smart and you should come to my spelling bee.

Yes.

Check out everything we've been talking about tonight, folks.

Go to onmawaki.com and just type in Molly's name, read her work.

She does outstanding stuff.

I'm glad we finally made this happen.

Thank you so much, my friend, and I hope we really can't do it again soon.

Me too.

Thank you for

having me.

You got it Molly.

All right.

That's Molly Snyder Thanks to everybody.

We've got one text here left from steady Eddie in the 608 baby Steady Eddie says greatest quarterback YA Tittle played for the Giants 49ers and Colts made the Pro Bowl seven times plus YA Tittle is just a little bit naughty for Shwapa to say on the radio

Not after Frank Herman's visit last night.

That's a nothing.

That's a nothing burger.

Thank you everybody for your texts and calls.

Thanks for being part of Nightlight tonight.

We'll be back tomorrow night to do it all over again.

On behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba saying goodnight Wisconsin.

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Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

I am Pete Schwabba.

This is great to have you here, folks.

It is a Wednesday night.

Am I crazy or are the days getting just a little bit longer and a little bit warmer?

This might sound crazy, but it's, I mean, it's, listen, it's really cold outside.

But there's there's a a non-nip in the air.

There's something That is telling me that spring is sort of getting closer.

We are almost in February I Don't know I think things are looking up Conrad how you doing?

Yeah, doing good.

It's yeah, I mean It's nine degrees.

So, you know it's getting warmer.

It's not nine

Pete Schwaba

It was 16 in Marinette.

Tell me it's colder and the tropics that we call Green Bay

I mean, you know, I it's it's on a weather app.

So it's got to be legit.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

I only base every weather I look at off my weather app.

So

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all right.

Well, that's fine.

Yeah, so you're not golfing yet, but you might rock some

shorts.

You know, I miss I miss

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it.

I don't know.

Call me crazy.

I like at least that it's getting later.

It's getting it's staying late out light out a little bit later.

It's 507 right now.

Yeah.

on my MacBook Pro Clock, and it is still light outside, folks.

So I'm happy about that.

It's Wednesday.

We're halfway through the week.

We got a great show tonight, folks.

Really fun guests, some great conversation, a great question, and hopefully you guys will participate, and we will be off to the races for another fun evening here at Nightlight.

A show designed to help you forget the day, escape, put the booze down, put the crack pipe down.

Just listen to some night light and let's have some fun.

That's your escape, folks.

What are you, what are you laughing at, Con?

Am I, is that too optimistic?

Yeah, I think so.

You know, I just got to mention it's one of my, it's my favorite day of the year.

Pete Schwaba

Wednesday?

It's national kazoo day.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, really?

You played a little kazoo back in your day,

right?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, yeah.

You got some queued up by any chance?

I mean, no, I have the kazoo with me here.

I'll play a little bit.

Oh, fantastic.

What

do you think?

Pete Schwaba

I've never been more disappointed than that.

That was absolutely atrocious.

Uh, was that Star Wars?

Or Superman?

You know, uh, you know, uh, I can't, this is Fox, you know, when he, the intro to the movies.

You know, the

Pete Schwaba

Fox.

Oh, Fox Studios, yeah.

Yeah, who's that?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The best one ever that they did, I think it might have been Fox Searchlight, but it was when Ralph Wiggum was on top of the 20 for the Simpsons movie in the 20s.

That's so great.

Well, Happy National Gazoo Day.

It is also Blueberry Pancakes Day.

Which I think last year on this day, we did a question like, how do you like your pancakes or something like that?

So we don't want to double up this quick, but next year, folks, keep your eyes peeled for that pancake question.

But happy blueberry pancakes day to everybody.

You know, we got to talk about this because last night Conrad did what I like to call a con binge.

And

they don't happen often.

Pete Schwaba

I've done this before too, but I want you to tell everybody what you watched last night, and you watched an entire season in one sitting.

I was really excited for this, just because of the commercials.

I was like, oh, this looks like a show that I'm actually really interested in, because not a lot have really drawn my attention recently.

And it's Wonder Man.

Which was on Disney plus

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new show

came out with eight episodes all of them same day, which I was like That's not that's bad news for me.

It's so great when they do that So yeah, I watched they're about 40 minutes and I didn't want to stop watching because it was really really interesting

Pete Schwaba

So you watched eight episodes forty minute episodes That's 320 minutes of color television in one night.

That is how many hours is that five and a half hours?

Yeah, I've watched

Yeah, and, you know, didn't go to bed till about two thirty.

Pete Schwaba

See, you're young.

You got that kind of stamina.

I could never actually I shouldn't say that.

My wife and I watched the final season of Bosch.

It's about seven years ago.

They're wrapped up the whole show with an eight episode season.

We want we went home.

I said our plan was to order a pizza and watch like the first four episodes and then finish the next four the next night.

We jammed through the entire series in one night.

And that sounds really fun.

but When you're done, you're kind of like did I forget stuff that it's so much to comprehend I

I guess I love this series though.

It was so good,

Pete Schwaba

huh?

It

was it was fantastic.

It was the best Marvel series since Loki and I mean the last series is their devil was okay, but no this one was

Pete Schwaba

Fantastic and I was Marvel guy, but I have to check that out

like it's doesn't have the

Don't know like same Feeling as a superhero movie because it's not really a superhero or TV show.

It's doesn't have this.

It's not a superhero TV show It's kind of about a basic man who has powers that he doesn't want anyone to know about

okay?

All right.

Oh, it's worth that's a con.

It's a con binge.

Pete Schwaba

She recommends check it out if that's up your alley

Definitely watch it Disney plus

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all

eight episodes streaming now

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We've got news, sports, and weather coming up in just 18 minutes, folks, and a lot of fun to be had tonight on, I almost said, on Netflix.

You know what I did?

I write out my notes before every show, and I even write news, sports, and weather, like remind people that it's coming up.

But tonight, I put news, ports, and weather.

So at 5.30, folks, you're gonna get the news.

They'll tell you about various ports around the state.

There's a port in Green Bay.

A couple of you in a Green Bay, right?

And the weather, so there you go.

Who wants to hear about sports anyway when you can talk about ports?

And then we've got some really fun stuff coming up, but we got a great lineup tonight.

I'm very excited from St.

Croix Falls in Wisconsin.

Lindsay Fry will join us for the, she is the marketing director of the festival theater.

They have a really fun Valentine's Day show coming up.

She'll tell us all about it.

We like having Lindsay on the show.

She's been on before.

Uh, at 635, Matt Miller, Milwaukee film, Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller will be here to talk about the Oscars.

I like to talk about, I have to pace myself because I could talk about the Oscars every night, but I think once a week will suffice because I know everybody doesn't share my interests.

But, uh, we will talk to Matt about that at 635.

It's going to be a blast.

And then at 720, I've been trying to have this next guest or this seven o'clock guest on for a long time, Molly Snyder from onmawakie.com will be here.

And Molly writes really cool, really funky articles on Milwaukee.

And she is Milwaukee through and through just a Milwaukee girl.

And we're going to talk to her about all kinds of stuff.

The Laverne and Shirley 50th anniversary, a fun event coming up at the Lakeland Brewery there, or is it the Lakefront Brewery in Milwaukee.

Molly's also got a typewriter festival that we'll talk about.

And it sounds really fun.

So lots to do.

And we're going to talk about the movie Song, Song, Blue.

She wrote a great article about that and 13 things that she noticed in the film.

I'm halfway through it.

I rented it today just so I could sort of contribute to this conversation.

And I was getting tired of everybody coming on the show saying they had seen Song, Song, Blue.

And I haven't.

And this is the Wisconsin movie of the year, you know, like it was filmed while it wasn't filmed here, sadly.

That's one of my criticisms.

But nobody outside of Wisconsin or Milwaukee cares about that.

But I do.

But it's still a good movie.

The Neil Diamond music is so great, and Kate Hudson rocks in it.

She is so good.

So I'm kind of pulling for her to win the Oscar.

So we'll do all that great guests and I think right now it's time to get to our night like question of the night

Let's talk about the question.

Okay question question question question question question question this question All

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right, this question is inspired Was inspired by our guest from last night a Seth wickership who wrote a great book called American Kings about quarterbacks

And I just thought it'd be fun because it's a great debate.

This is one of the things that it's kind of subjective, but it's kind of not because numbers don't lie.

But you could argue different eras of the quarterback.

It's just a fun discussion.

So our question of the night is, who is the greatest quarterback?

Thank you, Seth Wickersham, for the inspiration for the question.

Let us know at 855-752-4842-8555, 75 Civic.

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The phone lines are open as you know.

We never close unless we're off the air.

But let us know who you think is the greatest quarterback.

Con your sports guy.

I'm gonna let you go first.

Well, I broke it up into three categories.

Pete Schwaba

And are they all three Packers?

No, most talented quarterback Aaron Rodgers and some of the throws I've seen by him just don't make sense.

Some of the pockets he could fit into and all the pressure that he faced.

I just like the best quarterback ever witnessed.

Okay.

The greatest of all time.

I think it's Tom Brady because of the rings and how many times he did go to the big, you know, the big game.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

And then the best movie quarterback

Pete Schwaba

of all time.

Movie quarterback.

Okay, now we're talking.

It's

Uncle Rico.

Pete Schwaba

Without a doubt.

It's hard to disagree with Aaron Rodgers, but I will challenge it a little bit and I asked Seth Wickersham this yesterday about Steve Young.

I don't know that anybody's had those tools and like he had a rocket arm.

He threw for accuracy.

He was

fast.

And I feel like if he hadn't sat and he got a Super Bowl ring in his limited time as a starter, I feel like if he had just come out and started, we might be talking about him as the greatest quarterback of all time.

But he went to the USFL and then he sat on the bench for probably at least five years behind Montana.

I don't know why he did that.

But that's the only, but yeah, Aaron Rogers, it's hard to, uh, it's hard to argue with that.

So you say Rogers Brady.

And in terms of Brady, just because it's fun to discuss, Montana was 4-0 undefeated in a different era where he got his lights knocked out every game and he was half the size of Brady.

Brady is 7-3.

Two of those wins, the other teams completely choked.

So he could just as easily be 5-5.

Which, look, getting to 10 Super Bowls, maybe that's enough to say you're the greatest quarterback of all time.

I don't know.

But I said Montana Okay, just to be because I knew most people would say Brady and you could you know if you say that I can't really argue that seven to three is pretty good record

You know the one of the one of the most boring Super Bowls I've ever watched was with Tom Brady in it And it was the Patriots versus the Rams where Jared Goff was the quarterback.

Pete Schwaba

Oh,

yeah It's the worst Super Bowl I've ever seen

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did golf play poorly in that super I just barely both

teams played poorly.

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Did they

it was like all field goals until one

One score.

Pete Schwaba

Let me throw this at you.

Most overrated quarterback of all time.

Ah, most overrated.

Troy Aikman.

Honest to God.

Like, I don't mind him.

I know, I know Packer fans hate him.

Most cities where he announces the game, the fans probably don't like him.

Never threw for 4,000 yards, threw for more than 20 touchdowns in a season once.

Carrier at 165.

Touchdowns 141 picks 32,000 total yard.

I he's and I didn't realize this till about a year ago I thought he was one of the greatest all-time because they have three rings under him Those are not good numbers.

I'll hold my answer after the break.

All right That is a reason to come back folks Conrad's answer after the break coming up We're also gonna tell you what are some popular snacks in Wisconsin popular Super Bowl snacks

Made in Wisconsin.

We'll do that next.

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Pete Schwaba

I'm Pete Schwab.

This is Nightlight.

Great to have you here, folks.

Happy Wednesday, everybody.

We are talking about quarterbacks.

That is our question of the night.

Who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

A lot of different things can come into consideration when you're making your choice.

TDs, yards, wins, all kinds of different stuff.

It's a fun discussion.

Different eras come into play.

This question is inspired by our yesterday guest, Seth Wickershum, the ESPN senior writer.

and author of American Kings, a biography of the quarterback, it got me thinking, this is a great argument to have.

And we've all, I remember arguing this with my Packer fan friends, like I'd say Jim McMahon, they would say Bart Starr or Brett Farr or whatever.

Dave on the stream says, Terry Bradshaw.

Interesting.

Says he called his own place.

I didn't know that.

And Terry Bradshaw's numbers, again, he's, I think he's 4-0 also, like Montana and Super Bowls.

Montana's numbers are better.

Terry Bradshaw does not have great numbers.

Terry Bradshaw threw for 212 touchdowns, I think, and 210 interceptions.

But the guy won four Super Bowls.

Joe Montana has great numbers.

Steve Young, my guy who I thought could have been the best of all time, drafted by or started playing for Tampa Bay.

in 85, really chewed it while he was there.

Three TDs, eight picks.

I mean, I don't think Tampa Bay, they were terrible.

Eight TDs, 13 picks the next year.

First year in San Francisco through for 10 touchdowns, no picks, but he was not the starter.

He didn't start full time in San Francisco.

I don't think until like 92.

He's got like eight years of respectable stats in the NFL.

when it comes to yards and throws, I can't even imagine what he could have done with another.

He threw for 33,000 yards, 107 touchdowns.

No, I'm sorry, 232.

What am I looking at here?

Yeah, Steve Young threw for 232 touchdowns on 100 picks or something like that.

I mean, he, I don't know, Con, he look up his highlights.

I think you'd be impressed.

You're a sports guy.

Yeah, but you tell me but Akeman is horribly overrated just as an individual player Certainly qualified to do color commentary at game so but let us know who your favorite quarterback is or who you think is the best ever I said Joe Montana Conrad said Uncle Rico and Well, I broke it

down, but most talented Aaron Rodgers greatest of all time Tom Brady

Best movie quarterback, Uncle Rico,

Pete Schwaba

obviously.

Uncle Rico,

yeah.

I guess, so I was talking, you know, you're talking about most overrated.

I have two kind of that are back-to-back kind of.

Tony Romo.

He had some impressive stats, you know, during regular seasons, but he always choked every, every time.

And crucial errors.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

And I think this is the Dallas Cowboys way.

Like every single thing, every single bad luck thing that he did, went to the next quarterback.

In deck Prescott

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was it?

Cuz that great regular season quarterback

Yeah, you know before Jordan Love got that big contract Dak was like the highest paid quarterback

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right

and he is a terrible playoff record and I mean some of the worst interceptions.

I've interceptions.

I've seen is from him Yeah, some of the worst clock management.

I've seen from him as well.

He just I don't know just those two quarterbacks.

They they got paid very well, but never made it.

I mean

Tony Romo never made it to a Super

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Bowl.

They're both kind of fun to watch.

Like, Romo could really light it up during the regular season.

Now, I said the same thing a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about, I don't know, Jordan Love or whatever.

And I think, to me, Eli Manning is more of a big gamer than Peyton Manning.

Peyton Manning was another phenomenal regular season quarterback, but he didn't win Super Bowls because of his play.

I mean, he's got two rings.

Peyton Manning already always had a fantastic team around him, pretty much.

True.

Eli Manning sometimes did.

Right.

Eli Manning also was, you know, he's known for his his big games, but he was also kind of known for his interceptions as well.

Pete Schwaba

Correct.

During the regular season.

Yeah.

But

I'm pretty sure he led the league like three for three separate years or something like that for interceptions.

Pete Schwaba

Well, and you could argue that one catch in the Patriots Super Bowl, the guy pinned it to his helmet.

I mean, that was more of a great catch than a great throw.

But but the guy

Got it done when it mattered.

Yeah, I don't know.

So it's a fun argument.

Let us know who you think is the greatest quarterback of all time.

Casey on the stream says Shane Falco.

Who is that Conrad?

I'm pretty sure he's from a movie.

Bobby Boucher.

Shane Falco.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, he's,

oh, yes, he's from the replacements.

That's Keanu Reeves.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, Keanu Reeves.

Yeah,

right.

So I,

Pete Schwaba

we'll take

that.

I did ask the make the call guys about the question tonight.

Okay.

And Jimmy Cusco said.

from that in 2004, Michael Vick.

Pete Schwaba

That's a video game.

That's a whole other.

Well, I agree with him because he just, you could run with him and he had 99 speeds.

Parker Olson said Tom Brady.

So.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

I think most people in your generation are going to say Tom Brady.

Yeah.

I mean, just like with Hoops, a lot of them say LeBron James, people from my generation go get out of here.

I'll

still say Michael Jordan.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

And I would maybe agree.

I think Brady is a better.

choice over other people just because he got there so many times and When the game was on the line he was great, but the LeBron Jordan thing I don't know how you could make that argument Maybe if you've never seen Michael Jordan play.

Yeah, I mean when I grew up I Would watch just Michael Jordan highlights.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah

repeat

and then try to do a 360 layup in my backyard.

Pete Schwaba

My

son Joe

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has seen the last dance three times.

It's such a great case.

It's great.

It's so good.

We've got also Super Bowl snacks.

I wanted to get to that.

I don't think we're going to have time to do that.

Maybe we'll do that at the top of the second hour.

Because these are all snacks made in Wisconsin for Super Bowl, for Super Bowl snacking.

So we'll get to that, too.

New sports and weather is coming up next, folks.

Then we have Lindsay Fry here from the Festival Theater in St.

Croix Falls.

Our question of the night, who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

And then I got to talk about Heinz Ketchum at some point.

They need to be stopped.

These ridiculous products, the Keg Chup, we'll discuss.

All right, it's Pete Chihuahua at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

We have to, uh... Heinz ketchup has to be stopped, ladies and gentlemen.

They have the keg-chup now for Super Bowl parties that they're pushing.

It's 114 ounces or something like that.

And it's like... 175 bucks or something like that.

What do we got, Con?

Oh, gotcha.

Yes.

Um, so...

And then they had that remember it was the ketchup smoothie Conrad I was trying to remember.

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

they had the horrible ketchup smoothie and then they've also got a ketchup Where is that ketchup smooth?

Oh ranch ketchup Hmm, I just sounds enough enough ranch where we can be done with ranch.

I think It's a fine product, but it's gotten into everything Now there are people dipping ranch in ranch and it's wrong

I'm very excited to welcome my next guest, folks.

She's been on the show before, and she's the marketing director at the Festival Theatre in St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

They do really outstanding work there, and they have a really cool event coming up on Valentine's Day in just about a week and a half.

Joining me now over the stream is Lindsay Fry.

Lindsay, how are you?

I'm great.

How are you?

Good.

Pete Schwaba

It's good to see you again.

I've got my cat here, Cosmo.

Pete Schwaba

Oh my gosh,

I hope that was a cat.

Just saw

Pete Schwaba

this crazy tail come in and it was not.

How are you tonight?

I'm doing great.

I'm enjoying the slow winter.

Are you

Pete Schwaba

a winter person?

When the time comes around, I have my activities.

I enjoy in the winter.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

You're not a native Wisconsinite, correct?

No,

I'm not.

I'm from Kansas originally, so definitely different winters in Kansas.

Is

Pete Schwaba

that like Wisconsin without as many trees?

Yeah, and all the roads are very straight.

Pete Schwaba

Really?

It's like Tornado Alley, right?

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

You're much better off here in Wisconsin, Lindsay.

We're happy to have

you.

Pete Schwaba

So how are things going?

How long have you been there now at the Festival Theater?

I'm going on my fourth year.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, great.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

I don't know if this, I don't know if you're a sports fan or not, but I typically ask all the guests that come on the show our question of the night.

Do you have a quarterback you think is the greatest of all time?

Oh boy, you know, I'm not a sports person.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

I

respect that.

So, I definitely probably know a handful of football players, but I'd have to say Tom Brady, probably because that's the only NFL quarterback that I can

Pete Schwaba

name.

That

you've heard of?

Pete Schwaba

I appreciate your honesty.

How about an all-time greatest stage actor or musical theater actor?

Oh, boy.

You know, right now, kind of my winter fixation is Barbara Streisand.

Oh, nice.

I'm enjoying watching all of her movies and listening to her albums, so.

Pete Schwaba

She's done pretty well for herself.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, that's a great

Pete Schwaba

answer.

All right, so tell us all about this really great show coming up on Valentine's Day that Festival Theatre is sponsoring.

I don't think it's at your space, though, correct?

Yeah, so Festival Theatre is partnering with the Chateau St.

Croix winery to put this event on.

The concert will be at the winery on Valentine's Day, starting at 6pm.

And it'll be three of extremely talented musicians, Joni Griffith, Amanda Wise, and Debbie Kildee.

They're all kind of coming together.

They're all like...

you know trained musicians and singers to bring an evening of Celebrating love in all of its moods.

What does that

Pete Schwaba

mean?

I saw that on your website What does that mean love in all of its moods or iterations or whatever?

Can you explain that or elaborate?

Yeah, well, I think love is such an umbrella term for a lot of emotions and you know, I think they'll definitely be some

heartbreak, some love songs, there's lots of humor on what we do for love.

Yeah, they're kind of tapping into all of that.

Pete Schwaba

That is that's great and I think sometimes the heartbreak I mean some of my favorite songs are very sad songs like they're just fun to listen to and I even listen to them like when I work out like they're just that powerful Even though they don't really necessarily celebrate love but celebrate a breakup and I bet these women you have Performing them are outstanding.

Where do they come from?

Oh, yes.

They're all based in the Twin Cities in Minneapolis, but travel around a lot and perform as well.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Oh, that's great.

Now, it's $25 to get in, but if you pay more, if you pay $38, you get wine.

and dessert.

There's like kind of a package deal we're offering so you can come and just see the concert or you can get a little package deal and you get a glass of wine and some dessert at the Chateau which the Chateau has a full of food menu as well so they have excellent food they make really good.

like they smoke brisket in house and stuff.

So lots of really great stuff.

And I know the Chateau has events going on all day for Valentine's Day.

So I know some people are coming to do a port tasting and then stick around to have dinner and then see this concert.

So there's a lot going on.

Are

Pete Schwaba

you a wine girl?

Do you like wine?

I do like wine.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Here's my issue.

All right.

Can I can I open up a little bit here?

Of course, it's a safe space.

Pete Schwaba

I appreciate that.

Wine and dessert.

People have those together sometimes.

I don't get that.

It's like too much.

It's too much.

It's overload.

It's too much sweets.

It's too much sweets.

I think so

Pete Schwaba

together.

You know, that's really interesting because there's a lot of wines.

Well, there's like different varieties so you could pair it with something drier, which maybe wouldn't be as much of an overload.

or having like a full body, like red wine mixed with something a little sweeter is kind of nice.

I know that the Chateau also serves port wine or port, which is wine fortified with brandy.

So, and they have exquisite port if you're into that.

And if you've never tried it, I highly recommend.

Pete Schwaba

Okay, that sounds great.

I just always see them paired together and I'm like, I like both of those, but I think a little distance.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, maybe if you're not a big like sweet.

I don't want to drink

Pete Schwaba

red wine with my Twinkies.

I want them later, right?

I don't know.

Maybe that's just me.

All right.

Well, I can't think of a better venue for a Valentine's Day show than a winery.

So that's kind of cool.

What made you do that?

You've got this great space, but I also see today I saw an email from you.

You guys have acquired another property, it sounds like, or a place to put productions on.

Tell us about that.

So we, Tom Wilson in St.

Croix Falls donated the funeral home in St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin to us.

And so it won't be a performance space, but it will be a whole building that we will use as a full service costume department.

like a costume shop and will be actor housing so that's really great for us because festival theater relies on a very generous and great uh host home uh program where people in the community house traveling artists that stay here for our productions um and sometimes depending on like whatever is going on in life it can be a little difficult so now that we have our own space we won't have to rely so heavily on um

our host home program, which we've got great, generous host home programs, but now we'll also be able to house our own actors, which just means that we can have more actors come into town.

Pete Schwaba

Do you think it's going to be haunted?

That's a great question.

You know, the historic auditorium that we perform in has a theater ghost named

Pete Schwaba

Pepper.

Oh, I love it.

Why are theaters so haunted?

Every theater, it seems like it's haunted or has some ghosts that can't let go.

Maybe a former actor or something, right?

Yeah, definitely.

Pepper is definitely a little prankster.

Sprite.

Anything that goes wrong in the building, it's Pepper.

That's

Pete Schwaba

so great.

I just don't tell the actors what it used to be, and I think it'll be fine.

Lindsay Fry is my guest.

She is the marketing director at the Festival Theatre in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

Tickets are 28 bucks.

It's a great Valentine's Day show next Saturday at the Chateau St.

Croix winery.

You get a great show for 25 bucks if you want to spend a little more.

You get dessert and wine and all kinds of stuff.

You can find more information at festivaltheatre.org.

What else do you guys have coming up?

So right now we're kind of in our slow season.

We're prepping for our professional summer theater series to start in the summer and we're hosting auditions for our playmakers series, which is our arts education program.

And we're doing Frozen Junior this spring.

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

fun show.

So well, on February 15th and 16th, we'll have auditions for Frozen Junior and then our first musical of the summer Shrek.

the musical, which will be open to community members to audition as well.

It'll be kind of a big, big production.

So Shrek is open to all ages to audition and Frozen Junior is our youth program.

So it'll be ages eight to 18.

It

Pete Schwaba

sounds like

I'm

Pete Schwaba

out of the running for that one.

Yes, but you can audition for Shrek.

Pete Schwaba

That's right.

If you know any young people or.

Anybody who wants to get on stage, you don't need any experience.

We're very welcoming to all to just get involved and develop a love of theater.

Pete Schwaba

How much effort does that take to really build a community theater, but it is a community and you have to...

you know, sort of a foster that atmosphere and build a brand, so to speak.

Is it hard to find good actors there?

I know you guys bring actors in from other places sometimes, and even a director, I think we had on the show previously.

But what kind of talent is there in St.

Croix Falls?

There's a lot of talent.

You know, we, last year, we did The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, and we had over 100 youth audition.

And it was so hard to

be able to cast.

You know we cast as many people that we had room for and so it's great to see how much talent there is in the area for young people and adults.

We have a lot of local community members who had either like done theater in high school or just like curious about theater and want to try it.

And Festival Theater is definitely a place where you know you don't have to

be like a theater kid your whole life or anything like if you you want to try something you can audition for us and even if you don't want to be on stage there's so many opportunities to get involved we have a lot of local community members who help with props and costumes and putting our sets together so there's like such a vast town that we have in the community and so providing opportunities for them to

to showcase that

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is lovely.

It's so great because my daughter spent her, you know, as long as we've been in Wisconsin, she's been going to the Bayshore Theater or Theater on the Bay as it's called in Marinette.

We're on the other side of the state, but she, I mean, her first love is being on stage and performing, but...

Every second or opportunity she got to go there and build sets and paint and do all that other cool stuff She was just over there like what I love about theater people is it's just in their blood whether you're on stage behind the scenes Whatever it is.

What is your obviously do marketing at the festival theater?

But I know you're also an actor Lindsay So listen, we're gonna do a quick break and then we'll just keep you for a couple minutes on the other side of that so think about

your favorite role in the theater, and then I'm probably gonna ask you what your binge watching too when we come back.

All right, Lindsay Fry is

here

Pete Schwaba

from the Festival Theater in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

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Pete Schwaba

And we are cooking.

We're cooking like it's Friday.

We're doing like a Friday on a Wednesday.

It's very confusing, but we'll get through it.

It's a lot of fun.

My guest joining us on the stream right now from beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin is the marketing director of the Festival Theater.

She's also a very talented actress.

Lindsay Fry is with me right now.

She thinks Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback, but she admittedly does not really know quarterbacking, but she loves Barbara Streisand.

So we'll take that as an even better answer.

Thank you, Lindsay, for that.

So we were talking about your role.

I mentioned you're an actor, you're the marketing director.

What's your favorite role?

You obviously love theater.

And I love people who love theater.

I find them to be so immersive and passionate.

It's so great.

What is your favorite thing to do either on stage, backstage, marketing, whatever?

Definitely acting on stage.

That's where I got into theater and found a love for and...

You know, that's that's the hat that I like to wear and then I love working in theater in the theater world and doing admin for a nonprofit theater company.

It's something that I think is just great.

It's

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important.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, it is important and art and like live storytelling.

It's really like a sense of community and stuff.

So I feel like that's

also very fulfilling and enjoyable to me, but definitely acting.

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

It's so great.

And they're doing Shrek and they're doing Frozen Junior and February 14th at the Chateau Street.

I'm sorry, Chateau St.

Croix Winery.

They have a great Valentine's Day show.

So check that out if you're in the area.

What are your favorite shows to do as an actor, Lindsay?

Do you have a favorite you've been a part of, like a classic or something that was written, an original work?

Oh boy, you know, I think there's definitely like something special about every production, you know, but the kinds of like shows or theater that I'm drawn to definitely have some sort of strong ensemble, whether that's a musical or even like plays have an ensemble that is really enjoyable to work together.

in that way.

Pete Schwaba

That's a great answer and it's hard when shows are done.

You get so, you know, kind of immersed in the play itself and your cast members and everybody you work on the show with that they become your family and it's very intense.

It's like a movie set, you know, and it's, those are just great experiences.

Okay, so are you in any of the shows coming up?

Yes, I am.

This season, we've got a stacked season of some really great shows.

Our youth show is Frozen Junior, which I'll be directing.

I'm also the arts education director.

Oh, great.

So I'm very excited about that.

It is everyone kind of in nonprofit theater wears a lot

of

hats.

And then I'll be in the rest of the season.

We're doing Shrek the musical.

We're doing a show called The Revolutionists, which is about four women during the French Revolution who were all beheaded.

And I'll preface this, that it is a comedy.

It's very- I was just

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about to make the joke that that does not sound very funny.

But here

it is, a

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very dark comedy, obviously.

Yeah, it's it's a comedy and it's kind of meta.

So they all come together to write a play.

It's it's a laugh out loud script.

While it's got historical elements, I'll be playing Marie Antoinette in that show.

Oh,

sweet.

Yeah, it'll be a great one.

And then we're closing our summer season with the Three Musketeers, which is a very like slapstick farce comedy of this classic story.

Yeah.

So, in this show, we have about 27 fight scenes, I'm pretty sure.

That's the number that's going to have a lot of stage combat.

I know a lot of our actors are already preparing and working on stage combat already.

Oh, that's so great.

That's going to be on peaceful August.

Pete Schwaba

And the Three Musketeers is a great show.

I remember, I went through a phase when I was a kid, like for six months, where I wanted my name to be D'Artagnan.

I just thought

that

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my parents didn't go for it.

So all right, when you're done, Lindsay, and again, thank you for your time tonight.

And best of luck with the Valentine's Day show.

That sounds like so much fun.

When you get home and you're with your cat, what do you binge watching?

What do you put on the TV?

That's a great question.

Right now, since it's kind of like...

are off season.

I've got a little bit more time on my hands.

I'm, I'm definitely enjoying the Gilded Age.

She's like historical fiction.

Carrie Coon is an actor that I love.

Pete Schwaba

I love her.

UW Madison grad in Wisconsin native she is out.

Did you see her in Fargo?

I

haven't seen Fargo.

It's actually on my movie list.

Pete Schwaba

Well,

She's in the TV version.

I want to say like season three or four.

All the seasons of TV are outstanding.

And she was great and white lotus last year too.

But I love her.

She's great.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

That's a great, that's a great mentor.

So, okay.

Gilded Age.

All right.

Very good.

Well, listen, don't be a stranger.

Keep us posted what's going on there on the other side of the state.

Hope the show crushes next week.

And I hope all kinds of people fall in love while they're eating wine and Twinkies.

That sounds like a lot of

fun.

I love that, thank you for having me on.

Pete Schwaba

You're welcome.

Okay, that's Lindsay Fry.

Folks, check out the festival theater in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin, especially if you're in the area next week and want a really cool Valentine's Day show.

I can't think of a better way to celebrate Valentine's Day with or without a party.

Conrad, I would go to that show even if my wife stayed home.

That's how cool I think it sounds.

Nightlight road trip?

Nightlight road trip.

We'll get a bus together and we'll go and we'll check it out.

Yeah, I think this Heinz stuff is what are they doing?

They've already really hate them, huh?

No, I don't hate them I just feel like it's greed because they are they're like coke for ketchup You don't have to do anything.

It's Heinz ketchup.

No hunts doesn't come close You know They they've got it.

They've crushed it.

They've mastered ketchup But this the keg chop come on You got to make a keg run we're out of ketchup

It just doesn't make sense.

All right, folks, our question of the night.

We're going to read some of your texts when we come back after news, sports, and weather, which is next, is who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

Sponsored by or inspired by, I should say, by Seth Wickersham, our guest last night from ESPN.

We're talking quarterbacks.

We've got Matt Miller coming up at 6.35.

And we've got Molly Snyder from onmawakie.com.

And hour number three, I finally made it happen.

I got Molly on the show.

It's going to be a fun night.

Glad you're with me.

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And now, a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back, folks.

Great to have you here on a Wednesday night edition of Nightlight.

We are ending the day on a most positive note, talking about all the things in life that are outstanding.

like movies and TV and comedy and music and quarterbacks tonight.

We talked a little musical theater.

If you are just joining the show, Lindsay Fry was my guest in hour number one.

She's the marketing director at the St.

Croix Falls Festival Theater in beautiful St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin, gorgeous area of our state.

And you can catch that on the podcast at civicmedia.us where all our shows are catalogued in podcast form if you miss something good.

Check it out.

Lindsay was fun to talk to and they have a fun Valentine's Day thing going on at a winery there next week and a show with some music, which sounds like fun.

My other guest tonight, Matt Miller, will be here at 6.35 to talk movies and Oscars.

We always love having Matt on the show.

And then in hour number three at 7.20, Molly Snyder from onmawakie.com will be here.

Molly does these really cool things.

She writes great articles.

And she always picks great topics, whether it's like, you know, about her annual QWERTY Fest she does, a celebration of the typewriter, adult spelling bees, and I forgot to tell you this kind, Molly is going to give me a spelling, a little spelling test, she's going to quiz me.

It's going to be like an adult spell, and it's going to be embarrassing

Kathryn Lake

because I'm not

Pete Schwaba

a particularly good speller.

But can you imagine an adult spelling bee?

I would probably go to watch that and have a couple cocktails that would probably be fun to watch.

Yeah,

that would be pretty fun.

Pete Schwaba

So Molly will be here at 720 and we'll talk to her.

I'm curious because when we talked earlier in December, she said we could talk about dry January, but I wasn't able to get her on the show until tonight.

January's almost over, but we'll ask Molly if she partook and how that went for her.

So we also talked about Heinz ketchup.

They need to be stopped.

They have the keg chup.

Now for Super Bowl parties always looking for ways to market your product I get that But they tried to work their product into a smoothie recently a ketchup smoothie Just do ketchup you do it.

Well, it's really good

They also One of you seen these lays made a ketchup flavored potato chip No, that doesn't sound terrible surprisingly a lot of people actually liked it

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I guess I could see that and it's potatoes people dip french fries into ketchup.

Yeah, I

Pete Schwaba

don't but you know Well, that's good look they're obviously doing something right, but this is a And this is what they say this is their press release and this is from food and wine If you're hosting a Super Bowl party and you're thinking you might need to buy a keg Heinz has you covered that is assuming you were thinking about a keg of Chup or ketchup Heinz has just launched something called keg Chup

which is a 19.5-inch 10-pound ketchup dispenser that holds 114 ounces of ketchup.

What is it, like 20 ketchup bottles or something like

that?

Yeah, somewhere around there probably.

Ish,

Pete Schwaba

okay.

It is shaped like a beer keg with a pump dispenser at the top, sort of how you get to ketchup, like get a sporting event.

And you don't have to shake it.

Just squeeze it or wait to pour it out on its own.

You don't have to shake it because you can't.

So...

unless they have some new shaking science that makes all the particles and everything stay mixed, which I doubt, you probably should shake it.

But they say this is probably way more ketchup than you need unless your Super Bowl party is full or it's a tailgate.

They're making ketchup keg chups available for sale.

And you can enter a contest to get one early, hopefully in time for the Super Bowl, which is.

You know, creeping ever closer.

Uh, they are 175 bucks for 114 ounces.

That sounds like a ripoff con.

How much is a bottle of ketchup?

Four bucks?

Yeah, it was somewhere around there.

So let's say it's five for Heinz ketchup.

And 114 ounces is like, let's say 15 bottles of ketchup.

That's like 75 bucks.

They're selling these for 175 bucks.

And there are rules to the contest.

All right.

Whatever.

It's good ketchup.

I don't mean to.

I don't

Pete Schwaba

mean to poo poo.

You could just get a couple bottles.

Pete Schwaba

Just to have him laying around.

I'll be that guy that has Heinz keg chups all over my house anyway.

So our question of the night, folks, is who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

We got a lot of social media responses.

We'll get to those.

Mark from Prairie to Sack in the 608 says, that was not meant for us.

Unless he's telling me not to be a quarterback.

He said sorry don't quit your day job.

This is my

day job He was talking about my kazoo.

Pete Schwaba

Oh Well, that makes sense.

No, it was I should

Pete Schwaba

let's give it another let's hear it Are you sure you want to know but I want to make sure mark

is on the money here.

Let me get it ready

Pete Schwaba

You must get so many girls

Hello ladies, have you ever heard the kazoo?

Mark Yeah, I don't I don't know that counter ads ready to make the jump to doing the kazoo full-time But thank you for your text.

I maybe you know watching the more YouTube videos cuz I'd got basic all the learning I did with that, you know lessons.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, and it sounds that good.

Yeah

We're shocking.

Steve from Florida.

Conrad's dad in the 920 says, best quarterback of all time is Bart Starr of the Green Bay Packers.

MVP of not only Super Bowl one, but also Super Bowl two.

Great man on and off the field.

That's pretty, you can certainly make an argument for that too.

So are you going by rings?

Are you going by yards, touchdowns?

What a good guy.

And why are they all good looking?

Why all quarterbacks?

Why are they all handsome?

That's just not, it's not fair.

Well, it's because they work out literally every second of the day.

Pete Schwaba

What you love to look like, Josh Allen, six, seven, mountain of muscle, got the Hollywood girlfriend or wife, whatever.

You know, people could say Joe Namath, I don't know, but Bart Starr, like he's before my time, but I've seen highlights.

He won two Super Bowls.

The problem is like the playing field has changed.

And now like Brady, there's no way Brady could have played till he was 45 when he retired.

They protect the heck out of the quarterback now.

You see these highlights of Terry Bradshaw and Montana just getting drilled after the whistle sometimes.

That doesn't happen anymore.

And I'm not saying it's wrong.

I like that they protect the quarterback because if the quarterback goes out injured, it's a pretty sucky game.

Good quarterback play makes the game fun.

I'm all for protecting them.

But when you're judging who is the greatest of all time, you have to take that into account, I think.

Montana was a little guy.

Not little.

He was 6'2", but he wasn't thick.

So I don't know Monica from Mount Horrib says I don't watch football except for usually the Super Bowl So I am hands down the best armchair quarterback with such impressive qualifications Monica you're about as qualified as I am And I did want to play quarterback in high school for about seven seconds And then by the time the ball was hiked and I was like what am I doing?

What am I calling boom?

It's like I don't know how those guys do it So I do admire them for that.

You have to have fast thinking skills Fast thinking skills

Mark from the 608 says overrated Dan Marino.

Oh, that's interesting, Mark.

Because I would have put Marino in that category with like Peyton Manning, really good at regular season quarterback, but he never won a Super Bowl.

He went to the Super Bowl against Montana in, I think, 84.

He might have been a rookie.

And they thought, oh, he'll be back.

He's so great.

And I don't think he ever went back to a Super Bowl.

That's just what happens when you play for the Miami Dolphins, you

Pete Schwaba

know?

I guess so.

And you know what, the Miami Dolphins are the worst.

Every year when someone threatens that record of theirs to go undefeated and they pop champagne, like, because they're still the only undefeated team, I guess I understand why they do that, but it's pretty annoying.

But Marino had amazing numbers, I will say that.

But I hear where you're coming from.

Thank you, Mark.

Steve also says, in my condiment opinion, Heinz Ketchup is only good on a hamburger, hot dog, brats, and salty French fries.

Maybe meatloaf.

Ooh, meatloaf.

I forgot about that.

Don't you put ketchup in the meatloaf when you make it?

I'm pretty sure.

I think you do.

I don't know.

I never made meatloaf.

Pete Schwaba

And you're like 26?

Dude, no

Pete Schwaba

time like the present.

I'll bring in a

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loaf tomorrow, will you?

Everything else doesn't sound right.

The Heinz company should just stick to the 14 ounce glass bottle and nine...

Was that 9 gram packet that made them famous?

Yeah.

I agree, Steve.

So 14 ounces.

Okay, maybe that's what they come in.

Robert from McFarland laces out Merino.

What does that mean?

Is he saying Merino's overrated?

Yeah, maybe.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

Monica from Mount Horub chimes in again from the 608 and says after contemplating, I think Colin Kaepernick could have been a contender had he not been shunned due to protesting civil rights.

I could not agree more, Monica.

That was so ridiculous, especially in hindsight as to what's going on now.

Insanity.

Thank you for the text Robert Come on con I was expecting

you to guide me that's

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such

a good movie

Pete Schwaba

It's

so funny there's

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hilarious.

It's so funny

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

Thank you Robert and let's get to some social media text, too We've got Matt Harper says our favorite rock rap artist from here in Green Bay says I'd have to say Brady

You wouldn't get much pushback on that, Matt.

Rich Elcasio says he saved every one of us flash.

Gordon.

Yeah, but it's a quarterback?

I don't know.

You know what, Rich?

Stick to wrestling.

Rich is going to be on the show next week.

I'm so excited to have him back.

Pete Schwabba, I read that one.

Sean Boyce.

Pete Schwabba, young did start right away for the LA Express and then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

That's true, Sean, but I mean, talk about bad teams.

He really didn't get a fair shot.

I still stand by my Steve Young comments, and my comment that Troy Aitman is horribly overrated as a quarterback.

I think he's fine as a color guy.

J.B.

Thompson says Carl Davis hands down too bad about his injury early in his career.

He could have been better than Joe Montana.

Who is Carl Davis?

Not sure,

Pete Schwaba

actually.

Go

Pete Schwaba

to the Google account, will you?

Take a memo.

Richard Vargas says, if I was putting a team together right now and I could pick any QB who ever played to be my starter, it would have to be Joe Montana.

He'd have twice as many Super Bowl rings if he hadn't, if he had been coddled by the officials as some of the favorites, quote, are today.

Totally agree with you, Richard.

I just kind of said something very similar to that.

And he had Bill Walsh.

You know, that's another factor.

Do they have a great coach?

I think Seth Wickersham said something like that yesterday.

Do they have the right coach?

And that is what I will say the Packers have nailed that with coach quarterback pairings.

And Jordan Love, I think is truly benefited from Matt, I almost said Matt LeBlanc.

Joey from Francis' coach.

Sean Boy says, I'm gagging as I type this, but Tom Brady.

Takes a big man Sean.

Thank you Daniel Kirby Pope on social media says John Elway That's our first vote for John Elway.

You had to admire Elway.

He lost I think three in a row or four And then he came back in one two But I don't think the losses were his fault, but he was he was unbelievable player Tim Nicholas on Facebook says Joe Montana agreed Tim Mike Jansen that's a vote for Uncle Rico

Put a nice pretty picture Eric Rathsec from ask your mother one of our favorites says hard to say Rogers made some of the craziest throws Obviously Brady won the most chips with really good defenses behind him.

That's true, too And of course Montana Yes tough to decide Eric also says Mike Jansen Uncle Rico.

He was excited to see that picture Derek Fister also posted a picture of Uncle Rico by his van practicing

So, the debate continues.

We will read more of your texts

when we come back.

Uncle Rico on one.

Pete Schwaba

Uncle Rico is ahead?

Oh, he's just great.

He's the best quarterback ever.

He's the best

Pete Schwaba

independent film quarterback.

All right, we come back.

We'll read more of your texts.

I'm going to tell you about a really bad golf bet that went horribly wrong.

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Pete Schwaba

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

I'm really glad you're here, folks.

It's a great Wednesday night here in the state of Wisconsin, and things are looking up for all of us because it is staying light out a little later, and it's getting a little warmer.

And didn't Corey Hartman say the other day, Civic Media's own Corey Hartman, that he's a master of weather, and he said it's gonna get warmer?

Yeah, I mean, you know, it went to six degrees now from one...

We went on there when it was nine.

Pete Schwaba

That's not good enough.

All right, so our question of the night is, who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

We got new sports and weather coming up in just about seven minutes, folks.

After that, Matt Miller will be here to talk movies and the Oscars.

And then in hour number three, Molly Snyder from onmawakie.com will be here.

Some more of the texts here we've got NickDB says I'll catch hell for this but Aaron Rodgers.

Before you accuse me of being a homer, I fully admit Bart Starr was maybe the fourth best QB of his era.

Fourth best of his era.

Behind United, Juergensen and Gabriel.

But Bart Starr had all the rings like Tom Brady did.

Same dynamic here, Rodgers is the best peer passer to ever pick up a football.

But when has that alone ever guaranteed championships?

That's true Nick.

He got one though.

He got one.

That's better than Better than it's better than none.

You gotta have a ring I think to be in the conversation.

Do you have to have a ring con?

I mean with all the you know, I would I would say yeah because it means you you know You want to get all the best teams in the league that year and

Pete Schwaba

That's that's interesting.

Yeah Thomas Tebow

A pal of mine from Marinette, chimes in on social media and put a picture of Al Bundy.

Another fictional quarterback, Ed O'Neill.

Beautiful, love it.

Lots of great fictional quarterbacks too, so keep those texts coming folks.

Dave Kunich on the stream says Ace Ventura, pet detective laces out.

Second one, what is going on?

Sydney Politics says Yo Dave on the stream, also Josh McCown, the uncrowned goat.

I'm starting to think Sydney is not taking our texts seriously.

Yeah, Josh McCown didn't have the best career.

Pete Schwaba

Happy New York City.

So let's talk about this con because you found this and then you share it with me yesterday and then I saw it again today and I was like, oh yeah, I forgot about this story.

This guy bet that Scotty Scheffler, where did I see this?

Yeah, Scotty Scheffler, it was, I mean, I saw it on Twitter.

Scotty Scheffler has a record of, you know, I mean, he's one of the best golfers.

He is the best golfer.

Um, has a record of kind of slowing or starting slow.

Okay.

In the beginning of the PGA tour season.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

And this guy said, uh, what are the odd Scotty wins this year?

And they're this, this, this, uh, starting events.

Yeah.

And this guy, like retweeted it and said, if Scotty wins, I will eat chili for a whole month from Wendy's.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah,

from Wendy's.

Not just

Pete Schwaba

chili.

From Wendy's.

He's eating Wendy's chili.

The only thing he will eat the whole month.

And then this numbskull did not even allow himself to have cheese or crackers in the chili.

So he's eating what is probably no offense to Wendy's, correct me if I'm wrong, but very processed chili with none of the bells or whistles.

Yeah, I'm assuming Wendy's chilies isn't made from the heart.

Pete Schwaba

No.

And he said the pain hasn't set in yet on day two.

He tweeted breakfast chili is surprisingly underrated But he did not he did note that he regrets not allowing crackers.

First of all, nobody cares.

He's the cracker.

It's like Law enforcement is not holding his feet to the fire.

He could change this up and people go well.

He's still a chili.

I mean I respect him for If it was me, I wouldn't even do it.

Well, yeah But it's like I have respect

that you're gonna do it and you're true to your word, I guess.

But here's what's weird about this Conrad.

Pete Schwaba

This isn't a bet he did with a buddy.

Like, the golfer's not his friend.

He just said, if that golfer does this, I'm gonna do this.

It's just because he had so many interactions with that tweet that it, you know, it went viral and then everyone's, everyone

Pete Schwaba

on the comments said, all right, well, you got to eat chili.

Doesn't matter.

Eat the damn crackers and nobody cares.

You could just go on Twitter and say, yes, I'm honoring the bet.

Nobody's

Pete Schwaba

bird-doggin' him.

You could post a picture, you know, once a day.

Or just take one picture of you eating chili and just post that every day.

Get

Pete Schwaba

30 shirts, change them, and take a picture, and then just

post them.

You don't even

Pete Schwaba

have to eat it, you know?

I wouldn't.

I wouldn't either.

It's just so... whatever.

15 minutes of fame, I guess, though, right?

Yeah, you know, it's...

that chili does not, it probably doesn't, I've never had it, probably doesn't taste that great.

Pete Schwaba

I've had Wendy's chili.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Is it good?

It's passable if you eat it once and don't eat it again for two years.

It's not bad.

Eating it every day for a month is not advisable on any level.

How much are you spending too?

Maybe he'll get a deal from Wendy's out of this, like that would maybe make it worth it, but.

No.

Like an endorsement deal?

If he gets an endorsement deal for that, well.

It happened, like the dude that ate all the Big Macs from Fondlec.

He's eating 35,000 Big Macs in his life.

Well, yeah, that's a little different.

And he's not even heavy.

Like he's not rocking a six pack.

But, yeah, I don't know, man.

All right, on the stream, Dave says Rich Campbell.

Oh, he was a quarterback, right?

Yeah.

He played

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for the Packers like in the 80s or something like that.

Yeah, he played Yeah,

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okay, and then Dave said sup Sid the bromance continues over the nightlight stream I love it Catherine Lake from Madison says checking in from Madison you flipping rock Pete.

Oh, thank you Catherine Isn't it funny that Catherine like?

Is not like like she she's the manager at WMDX, but she has a voice when she reads these ads like an angel.

It's ridiculous She should be on the air, right?

I mean not in place of me

I'm just saying.

Thank you, Catherine, for the text.

All right, we are coming back, folks.

Matt Miller, our favorite Milwaukee film critic will be here.

We're going to talk movies and Oscars and have all sorts of fun that you will not want to miss.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

This is Jamie McChain, and you're listening to Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwabba, and this is Night Light, and that was Jamie McChain.

My sister just told me the other day she saw Task.

Jamie's in Task, and he's great.

Jamie is in everything.

I just started watching Southland.

It was on years ago.

I think it's from 2010.

Such a great cast, and I've heard from law enforcement people that that was the most realistic look at police work that they had seen.

Multiple people.

At least two.

Definition of multiple.

But it's good, and Jamie's in that as well, so well done, Conn.

Have you watched Southland yet?

No.

No, I'm not too huge of a cop show guy.

Really?

Yeah.

Interesting.

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More of a... Unless Adam Sandler plays a cop, then you're all over it.

Well, yeah, then it'd be a comedy, you know?

Adam Sandler's a cop would just... There's no possible way he could play a serious cop

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in any movie.

Agreed.

And I wanted to give a shout out to Kristen Lyrely who flipped out over Sean Cassidy the other night.

She said, Sean Cassidy, and obviously she had a huge crush on him when she was a kid.

And I said, he asked about you.

So that was nice.

And then Connie Feldman for tonight's Question of the Night, who was the greatest quarterback of all time.

Says Bart Starr, but let's ask our next guest what he thinks because he is a man of a man about film But also has quite a bit of sports knowledge as well and he's just a lot of fun to have around here on nightlight He joins us periodically from his home base in Milwaukee where he is does outstanding work as a film critic our pal Matt Miller.

Hey, buddy Hey, friend.

Oh, how are you?

I'm doing well.

I'm doing cold.

I like the little sugar thing there.

You snuck in friend.

Oh

That's fantastic from

I do.

I do love a friend.

That's

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one of those movies, Matt.

I can't turn off when no country for old men is on.

I just I have to watch it.

I don't know.

It's pretty tremendous.

It's one of the years that the Oscars got.

pretty, pretty 100% right.

Like, and especially during that time, you know, they're early, there's a lot, we've gotten a lot more right than wrong in recent years.

Yeah.

Um, that hasn't always been the case with the Oscars, but I think that no country year, well, that was an embarrassment of riches.

They could have done, there will be blood.

They could have done Michael Clayton.

Even Juno is still a really good movie.

Oh, that was the same year.

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Wow.

Did no country win Best Picture?

I did.

It did.

I don't even remember that.

Okay.

Wow.

Well, good for them.

I don't even, I love the movie so much.

I've probably seen it 15 times over the last few years once, or since it's come out.

Matt, it's good to have you.

Do you have a vote for best quarterback of all time?

Oh, of all time.

I hate this answer, but it has to be Tom Brady, right?

I mean, I don't like saying that because I did not enjoy the Tom Brady era of Patriots football very much.

But it's hard to argue with the resume.

I think there's probably more aesthetically pleasing quarterback play out there.

I think Patrick Mahomes, I enjoy watching

him more.

I think, you know, I think Dan Marino, I think, you know, incredible.

quarterback, Steve Young, incredible

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quarterback.

Steve Young, yes, loved him.

But yeah, it's really hard to argue with the pedigree for Tom Brady and the many different ways he was able to win.

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Indeed, and that's a great answer.

And you're the first person that's mentioned, Patrick Mahomes.

Not that you said he's the greatest, but boy, he's got to be creeping into that conversation if he ever gets back there.

He reminds me a lot of Steph Curry when people have the debate over like, you know, great NBA.

players where like Steph Curry, when you watch Steph Curry play basketball, you're like, this is incredible.

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This is one

of the greatest, like I'm, I'm so entertained by your greatness.

And that's what Patrick Mahomes has when he's really, really good is I am entertained by how great you are at this game and how fun you make this game look.

Tom Brady doesn't have that.

Tom

Brady, especially in those later Patriots years, there's a lot of dink and dunk football and it was not.

aesthetically pleasing to watch.

And I think if Patrick Mahomes wins like one or two more Super Bowls, I think that that's a pedigree that I could say, yeah, he's better and I enjoyed watching him more.

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I said Joe Montana, because he's 4-0.

He's kind of like

Jordan.

He's kind of like Jordan and nobody ever beat him

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in the big day.

And Brad shot too, but Brad shot didn't have the numbers.

But like 4-0

was hard to.

That was a pretty incredible defense that team had too.

True.

I'm not saying a quarterback doesn't do nothing on a football team.

But sometimes, you know, sometimes you're Trent Dillford.

And I think.

He's got a ring, yeah.

who has a ring.

I mean, somebody this year, Drake May or Sam Darnold are going to get a Super Bowl ring this year.

And I think we're all going to be really confused about that, maybe in five, 10

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years.

Our worlds will be in upheaval, but it's a great debate because you could argue eras, stats, rings, like it's one of those things you could go round and round.

But I'm with you on Brady, like Conrad said Brady, but he's seven and three.

So getting there 10 times is remarkable.

But

He could just as easily be five and five or four and six, like not all of those wins.

Atlanta choked and there was one other huge choke that he didn't really

Well,

they came back.

They had the field goals to beat the Panthers and the Rams to start the dynasty off.

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Right.

But then you have to like include like, OK, if you don't grant Brady those games, well, then can you grant him the two Giants losses that were basically miracle catches?

You know, right?

If David Tyree doesn't have stick them on his helmet, you

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know,

we're talking about an even better Tom Brady resume.

So.

It's a fun thing.

Yeah,

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it's a fun debate.

All right.

Well, you are here to talk movies, my friend, and we've got a lot to talk about.

Let's start with the Oscars.

Just right off the bat, Sinner's 16 nominations.

Very impressive, your thoughts.

Historically impressive.

Yeah, you know that is that is not just beating the last record 14 held by all about Eve la la Landon Titanic That is beating it plus one right because I think a lot of people if they had 15 people would be like Oh, they got the new casting Oscar You know is it as as impressive with the extra awards, but then they got one extra, you know They beat it plus one left no do it as a horror movie

You know, I think that's the incredible part.

The Oscars famously not fans of genre movies and now the most nominated movie of all time.

is a genre movie is a horror movie i mean you can argue you know okay it's not you know it's not halloween it's not scream but it is a bloody vampire movie and that is the most nominated movie of all time and it's really kicked the buzz up for that movie i think a lot of people were like oh this is one battles to lose

yeah

and i still think one battle is the favorite but when you're the most nominated movie in oscar history boy

People really start taking your movie a little bit more seriously and start getting really excited to vote for that.

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On the one hand, if Ryan Coogler, like if that film doesn't win Best Picture or Best Director, that is kind of a moral victory.

16 nominations.

However, how do you nominate a film in 16 categories and not say it's the best?

I mean, one battle's right behind it.

And I liked, if I had to choose, I like one battle a little bit better.

But I thought Sinners was a masterpiece from a genre standpoint.

Could Matt, could the Academy, you said they don't like horror films, could they vote for that?

Because it's not a horror film through and through.

You know what I mean?

Like it picks its spots.

Yeah, and it's thoughtful and it's artistic and it is a horror movie.

And I mean, it is not out of the reaches.

I mean, obviously, Silence of the Lambs is an out

best

picture winning movie.

It's a horror icon, but that one is similar to Sinners in that it is, you know,

It's a little bit more thoughtful about its violence, you know?

But you brought up, you know, oh, how could they nominate a movie 16 times and not give it best picture?

Well, frankly, last year, the most nominated movie was Amelia Perez with 13.

And obviously that didn't end up winning very much at the end of the day.

Power of the Dog got 12 nominations.

The Irishman, Mank, the most nominated movies often don't come away with best picture.

It just means on some level,

that they are an achievement across multiple categories.

That they have the technical stuff, they have the costume, they have the production, they have the editing, they have the performances, they have the music.

It is an argument that it is such a complete movie.

on that regards that you know something like sentimental value you know the fact that that got eight nominations and it's like a side note you know

Pete Schwaba

yeah right boy that's a great point my guess is Matt Miller he's a Milwaukee based film critic and we are talking about the Oscars he's also seen some films we'll ask him about so in your opinion Matt your humble opinion what is the odds on favorite to win best picture if you had to choose

I think at this moment and this is written in sand

At this moment, I would still go one battle after another.

But Sinners has the momentum right now.

I think one battle has so many things going for it in terms of the fact that it is this extremely overdue writer-director in Paul Thomas Anderson.

It is a movie of the moment in which it is a movie about revolutionaries literally rebelling against ice.

that I think what's so interesting this year is that normally when you have two movies competing against each other, they seem like opposites.

You know, you have a aroma versus a green book.

You have a, what's the one that comes to, I had just a second ago, but oftentimes you have these very diametrically opposed movies.

You have a social network, this very up to the moment modern movie against the King's speech.

You know, we tend to have, you have an Oppenheimer versus a Barbie.

And in this

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case,

you have two extremely similar narratives where they are these very auteur driven movies that snuck into the studio system and for a pretty good chunk of change, you know, brought an artistic vision to the mainstream.

in a ways that audiences and critics both were like this rules.

We love

this.

And this isn't the case of like the little indie or like an avatar versus the Hurt Locker.

You know, this is two populist, O-Tour blockbusters head to head, literally released by the same studio that's about to get eaten up by Netflix.

So it's so interesting.

Two directors who are overdue.

who are seen as the creative masterminds of these incredible, passion-forward movies.

It'll be very interesting which one... I can't pick a winner yet, but I can almost assure you it will be a split between director and picture.

They're going to want to give one to the other.

They're going to want to make sure both movies get a deserved bow.

It'll

be... It's really exciting right now.

It's not very often we get an Oscar season where it's like...

Either movie could win and everyone loves them both.

This is this doesn't happen very

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often.

I agree with you though It is a shame because both of them like I said I like one battle a little bit more just because of the genre like but I

I hate that one of them, because they're both due.

Like you said, Ryan Cooler and Paul Thomas Anderson.

So that's a

great answer.

It's just a shame that all of the losing movies have to get thrown into a volcano after this and never get seen or heard from again.

Oh, that's right.

The Oscars mean nothing really in the long run.

They're just a really fun conversation.

And even if your movie doesn't win Best Picture, it's still a marvelous movie and you should love it forever.

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Is there a film you could see sneaking past both of them and winning Best Picture?

If we are talking that hypothetical and it's not off the table that sinners and one battle after another kind of split the populist mainstream out to her vote and something like a Hamnet something more old school like Hamnet sneaks in.

or something like the secret agent, which obviously the Brazilian contingent in the academy is very loud and very powerful in their votes.

The international contingent, maybe they push, though the fact that that didn't get into director tells me maybe they aren't as all powerful as they sometimes seem in these past two years.

It is not an impossibility that we get a weird Shakespeare in love style year where these two favorites kind of duke it out.

and then the old school, you know, kind of classic prestige movie sneaks in to win Best Picture.

I'm hoping that doesn't happen because Hamnet is, as of this moment, my least of the Best Picture nominees, but it's on the table.

Pete Schwaba

It sounded to me like you just said old school should win an Oscar, and I agree with you.

Matt Miller is here.

We're coming right back to talk about actor and actress nominations.

It's a fun discussion.

Don't go anywhere, folks.

It's Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and on the stream Sydney politics finally said happy New Year to Pete Dave Happy New Year and Matt and Conrad Happy New Year Matt.

It's never too late Matt Miller is here He is our guest joining us live over the stream from Milwaukee where he reviews films and does all kinds of fun stuff Matt, so let's talk about actors and actresses Any favorites any surprises in the nominations?

I was so happy to see Delroy Lindo

get

nominated for Best Supporting Actor in Sinners.

I'm going to mentally make this retroactive to The Five Bloods, which he should have been a walk, just like an easy nomination and probably a win back in 2020.

But I'm just so happy he's finally got his first nomination.

He more than deserves it.

That really made me happy.

That was kind of the big surprise.

I mean, seeing Amy Madigan and weapons get a best supporting actress.

We are not freaking out enough about how that was like a lock.

How like this very strange role in this, you know, surprise smash hit horror movie was like, oh yeah, that's going to be a best supporting actress nominee without a doubt that morning.

So it's across the board this year.

The Oscar nominations are really good.

I think the only one people were complaining about was F1.

And if F1 is your worst, best picture nominee, if F1 is the worst kind of Oscar villain of this season, we're doing really good.

And you can thank ten

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nominations too.

That doesn't get nominated if there's still only five nominations, right?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was definitely the last one in, I would bet, F1.

But I mean, you know, if a well-crafted, well-made, old-school, satisfying Hollywood blockbuster, you know, makes it into best picture, you know, I can live with that.

I would much rather that than the days of some utterly forgettable, you know, Weinstein pushed, you know, indie thing that no one remembers a week after the Oscars, you know.

you know, some milk toast thing like that, you know, I much prefer this.

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I have not seen Blue Moon.

In fact, I've got six to see of the best pictures, but I and I haven't seen Marty Supreme.

I've heard Timothy Chalamet is a dark horse.

I love Michael B. Jordan.

I'd be really.

He's not a dark horse.

He is the white horse.

He is the whatever the opposite of a dark horse is.

He is the leading candidate.

He's the radiant

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horse.

Is he the leading candidate over Michael B. Jordan?

Yes, okay as of right now.

Yes.

He

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was that good, huh?

I think he hold he is the reason why that movie works and there's already the sense of like listen He wants it and he's good and he's kind of already overdue I think he's gonna walk away with that one pretty comfortably unless you know what was we have

a month and a half

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so a

lot can happen and I do think there is some resistance to a giving a younger actor best actor they don't tend to do that and giving it to somebody who is you know a star in the way that he is you know it took Leo a long time to get his Oscar um because there was reluctance to being like he's so young he's so bratty he's dating a Jenner you know there's a

lot of things

people

present about him, but I don't think people can hold that performance against

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him.

And he's kind of like the Caleb Williams, Todd Morinovich, whatever, he's like been groomed for this.

He's kind of a nepo baby, but he's been, you know, but so you're right, maybe that would work against him, but he was great in the Dylan film too.

And I didn't think he'd win for that, but I was impressed by that.

But any of these actors really, I think would be would be great.

I find it

It would be hard for me to believe Leo DiCaprio would win for one battle after another.

He was great, but I don't

know.

He's so good, but they don't love comedy.

And they don't love Doofy Leo.

Like I always say.

I love Doofy Leo.

That is the best Leonardo DiCaprio bar none.

And it is absolutely a travesty that he won his Oscar for doing sad grunts in the cold.

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The Revenant,

right?

Yeah, right.

A movie that no one thinks about or watches anymore.

And then he's so good in the Wolf of Wall Street.

Being so funny and, you know, repulsive in a compelling way, it's a shame.

But, you know, that's not the answer.

The Oscars rarely get it

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right.

Yeah.

What about best, would you go with Delroy Lindo?

I have to say, Sean Penn, you know, he's great.

I wouldn't even be upset if he won.

He's that good because...

He took big swings with that role and it worked.

And, uh, you know, but I, Delroy Lindo, I love him too.

I, it's Dylan Skarsgard's great.

I mean, it's tough.

Yeah.

It's easily, I would say that's the most interesting of all of the big categories because truly anybody could win best supporting actor this year.

I think Sean Penn and Benicio Del Toro.

are maybe your front runners, but they're such different performances.

Sean Penn is so mannered and so ticky.

Benicio del Toro, so natural, so fun to be with in

that movie.

And, you know, are they going to split the one battle after another vote?

and then does somebody sneak in?

Does a Jacob Elordi sneak in for

a

very committed, you know, really impressive physical performance in Frankenstein?

Does Stellan Skarsgard win?

Does he kind of win the honorary, you know, Lifetime Achievement Award for sentimental value for like, hey, you're great in this movie and you've been great for your entire career?

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Everything, yeah.

Does Delroy Lindo sneak in?

Because now he's got this momentum, you know, it's...

If you're a betting person, stay far away from this category, because really it is a crapshoot in a very exciting way.

Pete Schwaba

Matt, I would love to keep you for a few minutes after the news if you're game, because I want to ask you about some of the films you've seen, the newer stuff, but can we do that?

I would love that.

You talked about people not...

Seeing the Oscar movies yet.

Yeah, I have a guide especially from Milwaukee area people to where you can find all of the Oscar nominees both on streaming and in movie theaters So if you're looking for them, I have them on my sub stack.

Pete Schwaba

All right, check out Matt Miller a man about film sub stack That's great.

I'm glad you said that when we come back.

We're gonna talk best actress best supporting actress and Matt's seen a couple films I want to ask him about to including song sung blue which I'm halfway through finally I can finally call myself it was constant night again once I get through this film, but Kate Hudson

Oh my gosh.

So great.

We'll talk about all of this with Matt after the news.

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Welcome back to Nightlight, folks.

Great to have you here on this Wednesday night in the beautiful, beautiful, frigid, but still beautiful state of Wisconsin.

We are happy to be on the air and happy to have you with us as we talk about all the things in life that are fun to talk about.

Movies, TV, comedy, music, and tonight, quarterbacks.

We go into sports once in a while.

And our question of the night was inspired by ESPN senior writer, Seth Wickersham, who was here yesterday and wrote a great book about quarterbacks called American Kings.

So that is our question of the night.

Who is the greatest quarterback of all time?

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Croix Falls Festival Theater, a great outfit.

over there in the western part of the state.

Check out the podcast at civicmedia.us.

And if you miss the second hour, it is also available there.

And you can check out our conversation with our current guest who has agreed to stick around for a few more minutes because we have so much to discuss in the world of movies.

Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller is with me right now.

So Matt, let's get back into this like we talked about actors.

Let's cover actresses.

I know Jesse Buckley I think is the favorite by all accounts or at least based on what I've read But like I said right before the break I've only seen half the movie But I love it so far and I love Kate Hudson

Yeah, excellent

I was very surprised by how much I liked Kate Hudson and Song Song Blue.

She's not an actress.

I've particularly had a shine for her career.

And I think she really pops in that movie, both in the kind of more fun first half and also in the second half where it gets into the much heavier.

I don't know if you've gotten there yet.

The movie starts getting to be a real bummer at about the halfway point.

She's really good in all of it.

And I'm happy to see her get, you know, get some flowers here.

It's a deserved performance.

You don't, in this day and age, in this Oscar era, you don't often see these kind of standalone nominations because Oscar voters, they get very married to the 10, 15 movies that they know they have to watch every season.

I have this theory that they really just kind of lock in on a few movies and you don't see the kind of diversity of films that we

used to get nominated.

Um, so it's nice to see that voters made time to see song song blue and to really appreciate what she did in that movie.

She's, she's really the standout.

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You know, it's so crazy.

So far, like I said, I'm an hour into it.

She just is that person, uh, Claire Sardina, I think, like they don't look that much alike, but she loses herself and you think you're watching this person.

She did the accent subtly enough where she sounds like she's from Wisconsin.

I

don't think we can go with subtle on the accent.

Well, it's

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not.

Listen, I made a film where I had the accents and Tony Goldwyn spur the moment did his best.

I've seen the accent.

Done.

You know, if he had more time, he could have done a better job.

But I think it's a tough accent to nail because Wisconsinites will nitpick you.

They'll say, that's UP.

That's Minnesota.

That's Canada.

It's a tough, it's like Northern Ireland and the Brogues.

So, but I thought she did a great job.

And I did not think that about Hugh Jackman.

I think he's great.

But man, the whole time I'm like, she looks the part Hugh Jackman looks like Hugh Jackman in a wig.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't know if it's the best deployment of your Hugh Jackman, even beyond the fact that he doesn't even bother at all with any accent, which is fine.

I'd rather that than him struggle through one.

I just think Hugh Jackman is such a performer, all caps.

There's something about him that sometimes comes off disingenuous and like an act.

And I think in a movie like this, where you need it to be kind of earnest, I think I kind of bristle against that performance.

I think it works really well in something like The Greatest Showman, where you kind of, he is an actor on some level in that movie.

So you need that kind of level.

And I think maybe he doesn't quite play as well, which maybe that's why Kate Hudson popped so much in that movie is she feels so lived in and so warm in that movie.

And he kind of is a harder, harder kind of fit.

I think, yeah, I think the right person is getting laudits for

Pete Schwaba

that.

Very, very well said.

I love your sub-stack too here.

You've been really busy there, which is so great because I love everything you write, but check out Matt's sub-stack.

And he talks about the Oscar nominations and where you can see all the Oscar nominated movies right now, specifically or more specifically, I should say, in Milwaukee.

We're talking about the best actress nominations and now we'll go to best supporting

actress.

Yeah, I should know.

Buckley's going to win.

Like, if we don't talk a lot about the actress categories, it's just because they're less fun this year.

Yeah.

Because Jesse Buckley is your obvious winner for actress.

And in supporting actress Tayana Taylor, I think is kind of your runaway win.

She's such a powerhouse and that first third of one battle after another.

And you need her to be because her ghost needs to hang over that movie.

And I think that part is a little underwritten, honestly.

I think I can use a little bit more depth of like, I want one or two more scenes with that character to make them together a little bit more.

But I think her performance is so good that you kind of don't realize it and you kind of go with it.

And I think she's.

She's really incredible.

And if you like her in one battle after another, she's in another movie.

I believe it's called A Thousand and One that came out very quietly two or three years ago.

Small indie movie.

She's tremendous

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in

that as well.

So if you really liked her in one battle after another, definitely check that one out as well.

I'll confirm that's the name of that movie.

But yeah, I think she's going to be crowned when it comes to best supporting actors.

Pete Schwaba

I hope you're right because I loved her in that movie.

And I will say that agreeing with what you said,

I don't think she has a ton of redeeming qualities other than the fact that she's a revolutionary and willing to fight the good fight and passionate about her cause, but man, she's not a great mom.

She's not a great, and she believes, you know?

Yeah.

I think the show performance brings out the shades that that.

character needs.

I think on the page, that character, like you said, kind of unsympathetic, but I think her performance brings out

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the

kind of most heartom feelings that that character is dealing with and the kind of, you know, the emotional conflict that she's dealing with that she's like, I have this passion, I have this need, this desire to be out there doing stuff.

And I can't my life is changing.

And I think she plays that much more than the script does.

Pete Schwaba

That's a great point.

And you're right.

she's so intense she's so good in the film I kind of hope she wins too but I will say I know you didn't see this movie yet but the rip she's in that has a much smaller role and she's good in it but what are your thoughts Matt on every once in a while I go on a rant against an actor I don't like Conrad has to sit through them Mark Wahlberg I don't he doesn't ever need to make another movie again Ben Affleck I kind of feel the same way and I like him a lot as a director but man

the contrast between he and Matt Damon.

Like Matt Damon is natural.

I think he's a good actor.

Ben Affleck poses with this cigarette throughout.

I'm like, stop it.

You're like a kid playing movie in your backyard and you don't have to do that.

Like,

I don't know.

What are your thoughts on Ben Affleck?

I think Ben Affleck can be really good, but he is a particular tool for a particular job sometimes.

I think he's really well deployed in something like Gone Girl that kind of utilizes his

doofy Ben Affleckness really well.

I think he was really good in the sports movie The Way Back that came out right before the pandemic that kind of got lost in obviously, you know, the world's closing.

He's really good in that.

But that again, that's another movie that kind of smartly deploys him as kind of, you know, a sad sack alcoholic guy whose life is falling apart.

I think if there's not much for him to do,

Ben Affleck can be really bored and therefore really boring.

Um, but when he's really excited by something, I think he really, he can, he can be really well used.

All right.

That's fair.

Haven't gotten a little rip yet.

I wish the rip.

got a theatrical release, and therefore I could see it there.

But you know, sometimes life is hard.

Pete Schwaba

It doesn't look like a Netflix film, which makes me think maybe that's where they were angling for originally, but I will say that smoking is already cool.

You don't have to try to be cooler with the cigarette than Affleck.

All right, I'll move on.

So, Matt, you've also seen, I want to hear about these films because I have not seen 28 Years Bone Temple yet, and I loved the last one.

What did you think?

Yeah, this is the zombie sequel to last year's 28 years later.

I was a little disappointed by this I think you know 28 years later coming back coming back to this franchise Danny Boyle coming back to it after directing the first one the the incredible 28 days later

Yeah,

and it had such this unique energy and this unique visual look and this really thought-out Idea of what the world what the Britain would be like 28 years later after the

Rage Virus rampage through it.

And I just didn't find the same depth of development in The Bone Temple.

I think if you like a gory zombie movie, it's an interesting time with that.

It's got some interesting ideas that kind of is poking at and gesturing at, but I just don't think it comes together in a particularly satisfying way.

And I think if you left the last movie being like, I wanna know what the jimmies are all about, this weird trope

this weird troupe of, you know, demonic, you know, Jimmy Savile looking dudes roaming the countryside.

I don't think they get much depth beyond a very surface level.

Oh boy, like walking dead style, humanity is the greatest villain of all.

It's like, you know, I had eight seasons of that.

bring something new.

I do think Ray finds is great.

I like his subplot this kind of, you know, this loner trying to figure out if anything can be done about the zombies.

But yeah, a little disappointed by it by 28 years later, it's not not worthwhile, but it is not transcendent the way last years

Pete Schwaba

was.

Okay, great, great answer.

One more before we let you go, Matt primate, what did you think of primate?

It sounded really fun when I was reading about it.

Yeah, obviously an Oscar contender about murderous rampaging ape.

It is extremely dumb.

It is January through and through in terms of being an extremely stupid movie.

you're gonna have a little bit of fun with it though if you're like a horror sicko and you like gory you know mean spirited movies horror movies this is a lot of fun it dispatches a lot of annoying people in really brutal ways and you know it is the most entertained i've been by a murderous rampaging ape movie this year so

Congratulations.

Here's your Oscar.

Pete Schwaba

If you see one murderous 8 movie this year, make it primate.

Matt, always fun, buddy.

Thank you so much.

Let me know when you see Train Dreams and we'll circle back and I'll

catch

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up on some of the movies too.

This has been really a fun discussion.

I should let people know it looks like that's going to be included into Marcus Theaters' Best Picture Showcase this year.

Oh, wow.

Normally Netflix movies don't get included because, you know, Netflix is Netflix.

But it looks like Frankenstein and Train Dreams are in there, those showcases.

So if you want to see those on the big screen, I think you can this year.

Hopefully that stays where it's at.

But yeah, I'm very much looking forward to seeing that hopefully on the big

Pete Schwaba

screen.

All right.

Outstanding.

Thank you, buddy, as always.

Have a great night.

Thanks for the extra news here.

No, an absolute pleasure.

Anytime for

Pete Schwaba

you.

All right, buddy.

That's Matt Miller.

Check out his work at a Man About film on Substack.

He does great work there and love his movie reviews as well.

We've got a couple of texts we got to get to here, Conrad.

Catherine.

Catherine Lake put LOL in a broken heart.

Maybe she meant a regular heart.

Pete Schwaba

Did

I say

Pete Schwaba

something bad?

I don't think so.

Did I break her heart over the radio?

I

Pete Schwaba

complimented

her voice.

Yeah.

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Yeah, I think we're all good Tony the trucker in the 608 Says Pete just for fun great motto you can beat our pack, but you can't lick our Dickie referring to former Green Bay quarterback Lynn Dickie

Interesting enough, Lynn Dickey has not been mentioned tonight.

It's one of the all-time greatest quarterbacks.

And then in the 9-2-0, oh, here's Connie Feldman's text.

Again, Bart Starr hands down two words.

Ice Bowl, win show minus 40.

Like to see Brady handle that both on and off the field.

Bart Starr, baby.

Thank you, Connie.

We are coming right back with OnMilwaukee.com, senior writer, Molly Snyder.

Kathryn Lake

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Pete Schwaba

Just lip-syncing, harmless fun.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.

Great to have you with me on this gorgeous Wednesday night in the state of Wisconsin, folks.

We did get another text here.

Our text line has been blowing up with people's suggestions of who were the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

Brian in Green Bay says, T.J.

Rubly.

Probably don't know him, do you, Con?

I looked him up.

I think he was joking.

He had 195 pass attempts, but he completed 112.

And he had a positive TD to interception ratio of eight to seven.

What a beast.

Yeah.

So you could see why he would be.

Thank you, Brian.

Brian's cheeky, I think.

He always, I like his texts.

I'd say Kurt Benkert.

Pete Schwaba

Don't know who that is.

He was the third string quarterback when Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love, you know, were playing together.

And he was a third string one time.

He nailed it for the win.

Pete Schwaba

That's his only snap.

God, I could do that.

Probably still fumble.

All right, we are going to keep this thing moving here.

I am very excited to welcome my next guest.

I've been trying to have her on the show for years.

She has shunned me.

She has said, no, thank you.

She has said, please stop bothering me.

And finally, she relented.

She is an outstanding senior writer at OnMilwaukee.com.

And it's great to have her here at Nightlight for the first time, Miss Molly Snyder.

Hi, Molly.

Oh, I think you're muted.

I think you're muted, Molly.

I don't know if you can hear me.

We've got Molly Snider here.

We'll figure this out soon, folks.

She does outstanding work.

And just to give you a little tease about what we're going to do here.

We probably won't get to it before the news, but Molly wrote an article recently about an adult spelling bee.

And she is gonna give me some words to spell.

I'm gonna kind of take an adult spelling bee here tonight, and we'll do that, and I'm sure I'll look quite foolish, but it'll be fun.

Do we have Molly?

Did we figure out her?

Oh, she's still muted.

Okay, we'll figure this out.

Conn is, you need to go to the car and get the tools Conn ran.

Conn had that awkward laugh like, oh dear.

We'll get Molly, we'll get this straightened out.

We had this issue yesterday with Seth Wickersham, and we rallied, and it ended up being a great.

Talk so we'll do that as well and we'll get Molly squared away here and get her on the air with us.

It'll be fun Let's do another oh here we go Brian says TJ audibled out of a play and lost a big game Biggest fail.

Oh, you don't want to be known for that.

That's terrible Good memory though Brian.

I'm impressed that Brian remembers that

We had, in case you missed my interview with Matt Miller, we talked Oscars and movies, folks.

You can check that out at civicmedia.us, where all of our shows are logged in podcast form.

And in hour number one, we talked about Heinz Ketchup and their ridiculous marketing campaigns.

And we talked to Lindsay Fry from the Festival Theater in St.

Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

And we will have Molly Snyder from onmawakie.com here momentarily.

That was really interesting.

Matt said about Song Song Blue, and I want to ask Molly about this too, because she wrote an article about the film and 13 things or observations she had about the movie.

And like I said, I'm only an hour into this thing, but I have, I agree with what she said.

She made some really good points.

So we'll talk to her about that as well.

And the adult spelling bee and a really cool thing she has coming up called

Quarty Fest, which is a celebration of the typewriter and Molly's been doing this for a while.

And so we'll talk about all those things with Molly when we get her on the phone.

Conrad shared this the other day, which I thought was funny.

There's a father who had a little too much to drink.

And he didn't want to get a DUI.

This is in Belgium.

I don't know if the laws are different there, Conrad or not.

I assume it's relatively the same.

Got to be a little more lax,

Pete Schwaba

right?

I

mean,

Pete Schwaba

I would never consider what this guy did.

He had too much to drink.

So he turned the wheel over to his 12 year old son who had no driving experience.

He said, I had drunk too much and entrusted my car to my son to drive home.

The dad told the police, mom and two siblings were in the back seat.

The boy was fine for driving without a license.

Dad was charged for entrusting the car to someone not fit to drive it.

After the traffic stop mom drove the rest of the way home All right Conrad Maybe that's you know a card you play right away Maybe just have the mom drive home from the get-go That's what I was thinking too.

I'm bad of a driver was the mom that he turned the wheel over to the 12 year

old

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I don't know and the kids shouldn't even be they shouldn't even have given the kid a ticket

Like what's he gonna do?

Pete Schwaba

His

dad's making him

Pete Schwaba

drive the car.

His dad's definitely paying that ticket.

I guess so.

We might have Molly here.

Oh, do we have Molly?

Hi, Molly.

Can you hear us?

I can.

Can you hear

Pete Schwaba

me?

Hey, yeah.

How's it going tonight, Molly?

Awesome.

All right.

I'm doing well.

I'm glad to hear that.

You're joining us from beautiful Milwaukee, Wisconsin, your hometown.

And there is no one more Milwaukee or more patriotic about Milwaukee than Molly Snyder, in my experience.

Well, thank you for seeing that I completely I completely agree.

I think maybe you know, I'm in the top five.

How about

Pete Schwaba

that?

It's safe to say We just have about a minute and a half before the news then we'll jump into some of these great topics that I can't wait to discuss with you But do you have an opinion on who is the greatest quarterback ever?

I have zero opinion on that.

Two of my guests have

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just kind of checked out of that.

The first one

said

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Barbara Streisand because she's a theater girl, which I loved that answer.

And then real quick, we've got about a minute before the news, but we initially started talking in December about having you on.

And you said we could talk about dry December, but by the time we got our schedules aligned, we're at the end of January.

Did you do anything for dry December?

I did dry January.

So yes, I am

Pete Schwaba

okay.

Yes.

So I am a 28 days solid.

And I think I'm going to make it at this point.

So at least, you know, the question is, am I going to have a drink at 1201?

It is a Saturday night this weekend.

You know, I wouldn't spend your first probably not.

But yes, I did.

I did partake in dry January.

I prefer to look at it like a dry bender.

So that's, you know, sounds more fun.

Spoken

Pete Schwaba

like a true fun drinker.

And if you wait till 1201, you've obviously earned it.

All right, Molly's here.

We're going to get into adult spelling bees and QWERTY Fest and all kinds of fun stuff after the news.

It is so great to have you here, folks, and it's great to have Molly here.

It's Pete Schwabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Welcome

Pete Schwaba

back.

This is Nightlight with Peach Wabba.

I am Peach Wabba.

Tomorrow night on the show, we will have a Joe Schwabba quick thumbnail movie review.

Adam Hess, one of our civic media colleagues here, will make the popcorn pick of the week at 6.35, and then novelist Becky Ferrara, author of First Contact, will be here in Act 3.

So right now, we got to get back at it, because Molly Snyder is here.

I'm very excited to have her on the show.

And she joins us from Milwaukee.

She is a senior writer at OnMilwaukee.com.

If you haven't checked out onmawakie.com, it's a great read, whether you live in Milwaukee or not.

They write about really cool stuff, and Molly kind of leads the way there.

I don't even know where to start, Molly, because I want to talk song-sung blue with you.

I want to talk adult spelling bee.

Let's start with QWERTY Fest.

This is a really cool thing that you started, and I find typewriters crazy romantic.

I love when I'm watching a movie and there's a writer hunched over, pecking away.

Having said that, I've been a writer since I was 25.

I don't think I would do it if I had to use a typewriter.

Right.

The celebration that I co-organize is called Quartifast, as you said.

And it's really a celebration of the fact that the typewriter was invented in Milwaukee 150 plus years ago.

And a lot of Milwaukeeans, myself included, just

didn't didn't know that you know I went all through you know Milwaukee schools I wouldn't my degrees are from UW-Milwaukee uh English you know I'm a writer since I was a kid never once you know did anyone tell me uh that the typewriter was invented in Milwaukee by someone named Christopher Latham Scholes and when it

When I found out about it, now this is maybe 15, 20 or more years ago, I said someday I want to do something to celebrate this more.

I just thought it was really strange that we don't shout it from the rooftops because it's not just the typewriter, the QWERTY keyboard.

QWERTY is where the name QWERTY Fest comes from.

QWERTY is the top line of letters on our keyboards, Q-W-E-R-T-Y, but still on our computers and on our phones today.

So it's not just a writer, which is yes, romantic.

And yes, as a writer, I love them.

And no, I don't want to write my on Milwaukee articles on them.

But I really appreciate them.

But the fact that the QWERTY keyboard has passed the test of time and is now a part of everyone's daily life in the United States or in English-speaking countries as well, it's just so remarkable that we have this piece of history that was so under celebrated.

Pete Schwaba

I totally agree with you on all of that, and it is kind of amazing.

I didn't know there were other, or if even other suggestions had been made to reorganize the keyboard, but tell us what the festival is.

It is cool, it's great, but what do you do at a festival about typewriters

or the invention they're

Pete Schwaba

of?

Right, sounds like total nerd alert.

And it is, kind of, but it's not.

No, we celebrate

creativity, art, music, writing, all of it.

We have an opening night party at Turner Hall in Milwaukee, which is a large ballroom.

Very cool.

We have bands play.

We have vendors.

This year we had the Boston Typewriter Orchestra was our main band, and they are just what they sound like.

They are a typewriter orchestra from Boston,

Kathryn Lake

who play

everything from classical to death metal, only on typewriters.

We had

We had brunches, we had typins, we had a whole day of presentations at our gorgeous downtown public library.

We also had social events.

We were at the newsroom pub, which is the official pub of the Milwaukee Press Club.

We had poetry readings and slams, and it's just a whole weekend of celebrating.

Yes, the typewriter, but also all forms of writing, of art, again, and also other forms of analog.

We really brought that in this year because we brought in people who love film photography and people who love vinyl records.

And, you know, again, it's not that these people are, you know, we like this only.

We still love to stream music.

We still love our, you know, type on our, on our Macs.

But the thing is we love both.

And that's what the message we're trying to get across is that it's not picking one or the other.

It's just having room for both.

Pete Schwaba

That's interesting.

And that's a great segue to non-screen hobbies, something you texted me about today.

I had never heard that term before.

But let's elaborate on that a little bit.

People have to force themselves to do these things, right?

So they don't spend too much time on their phone, which we all do.

Yes, it's very intentional, but it's also very, very popular right now.

There's a number of studies out there, a number of just so much been written, you know, that I read before I wrote my own piece about the return of popularity of old fashioned hobbies and non-screen activities.

And it's the same thing like with Quartifest that, you know, people, the typewriter is very popular again.

Taylor Swift loves the typewriter and she's helped us make it even more popular.

She put it in some of her videos, but not just that.

But these analog types of technology are returning in popularity because the farther we go with digital technology, the more many people long for the

Easier technology the more hands-on technology people want the imperfect technology They they want, you know the sticky key on a typewriter because you can't replicate that in a font they want To have a record that you know might sound a little crackly and poppy rather than hearing a perfect recording You know, this is coming.

This is what people are craving and they're going back to analog technology again not to replace

modern-day digital technology, but to enhance their entertainment experience and their art experience

Pete Schwaba

and reintroduce a little grit There's nothing wrong with that crack vinyl sound and like I I miss the days I always say I wish Technology had stopped before smartphones.

I loved having a cell phone and being able to talk to people in my car not text them, but actually talk But I wish it had kind of stopped there and I

What you're saying, all these non-screen things, you can't use an avatar.

It's just you.

You have to talk.

You have to have a conversation.

You go on X and see these horrible things are typically written by people.

They don't have a picture.

They don't have the real name.

It's all this cowardice.

So I love this non-screen hobby.

Is there a potential festival for that in the near future on Molly Snyder's dance card?

You know, I've thought about it.

Again, I am bringing it into QWERTY Fest.

We did start with it last year.

We are going to expand on that and keep expanding on that because, you know, it's just, it's so similar in the philosophy of it and just in the hands on the tactile media.

I'm a person, I have a Kindle.

I read books both on screens and I read a lot of books still off screen.

I love to hold a book in my hand.

I'm one of those people.

I always will.

I love to collect books.

I even love to smell books.

I don't know.

But it's just something that you can't replace that, even though it's not as convenient.

And I will give 100% to convenience when it comes to digital technology.

And I love convenience, of course we do.

But if you're not looking always for convenience, it's just something

really rewarding, really special when you're able to touch your media and feel your media in your hands.

Pete Schwaba

Totally agree.

My guest is Molly Snyder.

She does great work at Milwaukee on Milwaukee.com.

And she writes about some of the things we're talking about here, things that you don't typically see in other outlets.

And that's why I love on Milwaukee.

I was sad to see Jeff Sherman leave.

He was such a good guy.

I didn't know him well, but I really liked Jeff.

So I'm trying to figure out what, there's so much I wanted to, I do want to talk about Song Song Blue.

Laverne and Shirley had their 50th anniversary.

You know what's funny, Molly?

That opening song, nothing's gonna keep us down now or whatever.

It's like this inspiring song and I'm like, well, nothing's going to talk them out of renting a garden apartment with one bedroom in Milwaukee.

That's not exactly aiming high.

No, but it was the time.

And they were single women that they held their own jobs.

They had boyfriends, but they weren't married.

They took care of themselves.

This was fairly

revolutionary in the 70s when this came out.

For women who were in their 30s that presumably were not lesbians that were platonic roommates and were still choosing to live

you know, this single gal's life and have their own money and have their own space.

And

Pete Schwaba

we're

not afraid to

Pete Schwaba

rodeo-do-do at times either, which is nice.

Talk about it openly, you know.

Exactly.

But I love that it was shots.

My uncle worked at Schlitz for 16 years.

So that's why I think I probably loved Laverne and Trillie.

But let's talk about this.

Well, I want to ask you another thing, too.

You did a great article about ADHD and

how a lot of women, adult women, are being diagnosed with this.

How did you find this topic and what did you learn about it?

I am a woman that was diagnosed with ADHD when I was middle age and it was something that I kind of always suspected.

because it presents itself very differently.

A lot of times people think, and especially in men or in boys, it presents itself as hyperactivity.

And in women, it usually does not.

It's very different.

There's many different ways.

I always knew my brain worked a little differently.

It wasn't because I went on Grateful Dead tour when I was a teenager and

Kathryn Lake

might or may

or may not have experimented with some this or that.

However, I always knew my brain worked differently.

It didn't really matter to me, but I just decided because I have insurance and because I can, and I had other people who were women in my life who told me they had done this, I decided to get tested.

Once I got diagnosed, I started reading as much as I can about it just because I was curious and I found that this is something that's happening all over the country.

Kathryn Lake

So

many women are being diagnosed now in their 30s and 40s and 50s.

Because we weren't a problem in school a lot of us were even good good students So there was never a reason to really look into why our brains work differently But we always yet there were some very obvious signs that we were we were a lot of us were daydreamers That was my big thing.

I wasn't paying attention.

I was thinking about something else You know, it was like that kind of stuff that didn't disrupt the class so teachers didn't

do anything about it.

But at the same time, you know, I knew and it's really interesting because then once you get diagnosed in middle age or 30s or whatever is, you know, third age or you have to make the decision whether or not you want to be medicated.

And I decided no, because I built an entire life around this the way this brain works.

And, you know, it's working for me.

You know, do I lose my keys and my phone?

Like seven times a day.

Yes would being medicated maybe take stop that yes, but overall like even the way I work I you know, I'm a writer I have to take breaks, you know,

Kathryn Lake

I do

everything in chunks, but it's like I I'm okay with the way my brain works differently.

I'm just glad that I know What's going on up there finally?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that's a great answer.

Yeah, that's it was a fascinating article and you're right You always think about boys or men being kind of like

kind of jackass-y when they have crazy and running around, but it's very interesting.

The most interesting part of that to me was how it affects women so differently.

And I, you know, I shared it with my wife.

We had a good discussion about it, but, um, and I told her I was going to come on the air and air all her dirty laundry too, and she actually

Kathryn Lake

believed me, so I'm not going to do

Pete Schwaba

that.

So we'll do, uh, let's do this.

Tell us about the adult spelling bee.

I love this and I love that there are cocktails involved and all this fun stuff.

It sounds like such a Milwaukee event to me.

It is and tickets are on sale right now.

This is the on Milwaukee adult spelling bee.

I just want to clarify by adult spelling bee.

I mean it's 21 and over because it is a drinking event.

It's not X-rated words, which people the first year got a little confused by.

This is our fifth year then year.

And I think it's pretty clear.

It sells out every year.

We have 25 of the city's best spellers.

They sign up for this.

They compete.

And then we have an audience full of people who cheer them on.

And we also have some spelling games.

We have a bar.

We have DJ.

Wow.

of a word spelling related music.

It's super fun.

So it's like a spelling party.

And it is something again, that people who are not, you know, great spellers, it's not about being a great speller.

You don't have to be a great speller.

It's about coming out and just watching something remarkable.

First of all, the people that do spell are amazing.

Let's

Pete Schwaba

pick up right there.

Okay, we got to do a very short break and I'm going to get cut off here.

We'll come back and we'll talk to Molly about this.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight.

Kathryn Lake

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Pete Schwaba

This has been a fun show.

Thank you for being with me tonight.

Thank you for all your texts and calls folks I would like to thank my guests Lindsay Fry from the Festival Theatre in St.

Croix Falls Matt Miller Milwaukee Film Critic always fun to talk to Matt and my current guest

Molly Snyder, who does great work at onmawakie.com.

We are talking about adult spelling bees with Molly, and I apologize for cutting you off.

You were getting so passionate about it, but the computer

just

Pete Schwaba

takes over if I don't.

So it's

my

Pete Schwaba

bad for asking you a question with so little time left, but it sounds like a really fun event.

Yes, it really is.

It's something when we first started, we thought to people, will they come?

Will they come?

to an adult spelling bee and they came in droves.

It ties into what we were talking about before, just something that's different.

Again, it's not including a screen.

It's just very interactive and it's for everyone.

It's not just for...

people who are really into spelling, you know, it's just fun.

Right.

It's community.

Pete Schwaba

So and, you know, this is Wisconsin.

So if you throw a few back while you're watching a spelling bee, it's like exactly tailgated something like this.

So I suggested when you came by when you were here tonight that we do a spelling bee together the Conrad you said

I'm not a great speller.

Can I just give you some

words?

Pete Schwaba

I'm probably an even worse speller than you, which is bad because we're both writers.

But if

you

Pete Schwaba

have if you have words, I would love to take a crack at them.

I do, actually.

And let's, you know, let's just circle back and say that's one thing the typewriter doesn't have a spell check.

And let me tell you, that is something I really mean.

So I hear you.

One of the words that I'm going to that I was going to give you tonight is.

Ac-we-esque.

Oh, God.

That's a tough

Pete Schwaba

A-C-Q-I-E-S.

No, wait.

Q-U-E.

No.

Like, even in the

Pete Schwaba

ballpark?

Yes, yeah, you were in the ballpark.

Pete Schwaba

I started

strong,

Pete Schwaba

right?

You started really strong.

Okay.

And I'm, okay, so it's A-C-Q.

U-I-E-S-C-E.

Pete Schwaba

S-C-E,

yes.

Okay, now I can picture it.

Yeah, it's that S and the C that really gets you.

It's a verb, and for those who care, it means it's basically when it's something with...

Just giving in to something.

Giving in.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah,

I

Pete Schwaba

acquiesce.

Yeah.

Conrad, go ahead.

You can

Pete Schwaba

hit the buzzer if you want.

I know you're itching to do that over there.

No, I got it wrong.

But I'll take

the

credit.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

Well, this is the fail

one.

Pete Schwaba

OK.

All right.

Next word.

I got to redeem myself here.

OK.

Well, this is kind of the classic spelling bee word that every spelling bee pretty much.

It's not

Pete Schwaba

lieutenant.

It's not lieutenant, is it?

It's not, but that's a good one.

It's, okay, it's onomatopoeia.

Do you know that word, onomatopoeia?

Pete Schwaba

Just hold it up to the glass so I can see it.

No, I'm sorry.

Yes,

Pete Schwaba

Molly.

Okay, no cheating.

Onomatopoeia, it's the word that sounds like it's spelled and it sounds like what it is.

Like all dogs, you know, woof, woof.

Right.

Cuckoo.

uh, you know, or, uh, swoosh, you know, it's a word that the way it sounds is the way that it is spelled and the way it's said.

So it's called Ano Marokia.

And it is like in the spelling bee world, it's kind of a almost a stereotypical spelling.

That's a tough one.

Yeah.

Give it a shot.

I'm going to take a stab.

There's so many vowels.

I

Pete Schwaba

know.

And I'm going to go phonetics and just say, oh, I'm sure I'm already wrong.

Oh, and

E-M-O-N-P-I-A

No,

but you

know I Love that it's so game show it's O-N-O-M-A-T-O-P-O-E-I-A.

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

that's not even fair.

That was mean of me.

That was mean of me to give you that one Not sorry

Pete Schwaba

God, that's tough.

All right.

I think we got time for one more and I hope you'll come back soon and we talk about you know in honor of your visit here tonight Molly and I loved your article about song sung blue

And I want to talk about that with you.

So hopefully we can line something up in the next month or something.

You come back because I would love to discuss that article with like what I called you before.

So Milwaukee and just I would love to hear your thoughts on that.

So let's do that another time.

But if you

love to.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

And if you have one more word, I think we can squeeze one more in here before we say

all right, let's do a little easier one.

How about vigilante?

Pete Schwaba

I was hoping you'd say like, Vuh.

All

right.

Sorry.

Pete Schwaba

Vigilante, V-I-G-I-L.

This is I-E-N-T-E.

There we go.

You were very close.

It's A-N-T-E, but you were very close.

That's the worst because I can

Pete Schwaba

picture them now after having gotten them wrong.

Right.

There's no consolation.

Right.

And that's the thing is spelling out loud is very different than when you even typing or you can see it or reading.

Yes.

And that's why like people in the spelling bee can't have a pen and paper, but they can use their finger and draw the word on their leg, which is really strange.

Oh, yeah.

So many people do that.

So I, you know, so you're saying all about our mind games.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

You are extremely smart and you should come to my spelling bee.

Yes.

Pete Schwaba

Check out everything we've been talking about tonight, folks.

Go to onmawakie.com and just type in Molly's name.

Read her work.

She does outstanding stuff.

I'm glad we finally made this happen.

Thank you so much, my friend, and I hope we really can't do it again soon.

Me too.

Thank you for having me.

You got it

Pete Schwaba

Molly.

All right.

That's Molly Snyder Thanks to everybody.

We've got one text here left from steady Eddie in the 608 baby Steady Eddie says greatest quarterback YA Tittle played for the Giants 49ers and Colts made the Pro Bowl seven times plus YA Tittle is just a little bit naughty for Shwapa to say on the radio

Not after Frank Herman's visit last night.

That's a nothing.

That's a nothing burger.

Thank you everybody for your texts and calls.

Thanks for being part of Nightlight tonight.

We'll be back tomorrow night to do it all over again.

On behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba saying goodnight Wisconsin.

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