Packers Drama and Comedy Legends (Hour 2)

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Packers Drama and Comedy Legends (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Dec 30, 2025

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live, statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who gives edible undies as gifts just because they taste good, Pete Schwabba.

It was only a couple of times.

I don't do it regularly.

Welcome to Nightlight, ladies and gentlemen.

Hey, it's great to have you with me on this Tuesday night.

And to celebrate our last live show of 2025, I'm wearing a hat.

What do you think, Con?

I'm trying to be like you.

Yeah, I mean, I'm wearing a hat as well.

Yeah, it looks nice.

I like the blue.

Yeah, I'm in my home office, which is currently my son's bedroom for the holidays, a house full of people.

little chilly downstairs.

I thought, you know what?

I'll try to look cool, hip, and wear a hat.

I don't know how that's going to work out, but I'm going with it anyway.

Better to be comfortable.

Exactly.

Yeah.

What's going on at the studio?

What am I missing?

You know, it's just me in here.

Um, hopefully the lights don't go out because I get a little scared,

you know, freaked out

ghosts.

I'll tell you this.

So remember last night after the show, I was like, you know, we're moving out and it was 82 degrees in my apartment.

Oh into your new apartment you're talking about

my old apartment was 82 degrees

Right

when we're moving.

Yeah, so I go back.

I went back today so I could clean a couple more things And it's 71 in there

What's that all about

It's like and why is it colder now in there?

Why

didn't do

that before

how much body heat do you give off?

That's what I'm

saying.

Whoa.

What am I doing wrong?

Well, are you totally out of there

now?

Yeah, totally out of there.

In

my new place now.

It's a great little spot.

New bachelor pad, living the single life in Green Bay.

You could do a lot worse than that in life.

Exactly.

Right next door.

And your folks

are still in town

helping you?

Well, yeah, they're backed by my brother's house in Appleton.

Okay.

For those of you listening, last night I was doing the show and a guy went by the window, Kristen Lighty was on.

And I even told Kristen this.

And the guy's waving like he knows me and I'm waving back.

And I said, oh my God, I think I might have accidentally booked another guest.

I don't know who this person is.

It was Conrad's dad.

And I've only seen like a picture of him, but he had a hat on.

I didn't recognize him.

So it was kind of relieved that I didn't double book a guest.

But your dad, having said that, would have been welcome to come on the show and spend a little time with

us.

So

anyway.

Yeah, it would have been fun.

We've already got a stream comment.

Love that Daniel Barry Sports Highlights says happy Tuesday.

Hey guys, hey Daniel, great to have you buddy.

Hope you're having a swell Tuesday.

As I mentioned, this is our last show of 2025.

The rest of the week, we will be playing Nightlight Highlights Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

So that should be fun to some of our best and most

fun moments

here from 2025 in the last few weeks.

And then we will be back live January 5th.

for a whole new round of shows.

And then we don't get a day off Conrad for nine months.

I don't know if you heard that, that the word came down.

We will not be taking

anymore.

We're going into the gauntlet here.

Two short weeks and then we're back at it.

There's some big news here within Civic Media today.

And I don't want to oversell this or get people too excited, but we have a champion in our Civic Media Fantasy Football League.

And I'll let you elaborate on that.

Well, I was the runner-up.

I was second place.

I gave them my all.

Like I told them, I didn't give my players a good pep talk.

So they didn't show out for me.

But

Brittany Merlot

is the champion.

Meteorologist extraordinaire, the award-winning Brittany Merlot.

has dominated the civic media fantasy football league, which I was not invited this year, which I'm trying to come to terms with.

Well, you don't pay attention to your players.

I know.

And my son, like in his league, he begged me to join.

He's like, come on, dad, you got to do it.

And I showed up for the draft.

And I don't think I even opened it after that.

It was the same two years ago.

Rocker brought me into the civic media.

And I always mean well, like I mean to play and pay attention and look at stats and add players and all that kind of stuff and sit guys during the buy.

But after the draft, which is fun, I just completely lose interest.

I just don't care.

In fact, I'm not a gambler.

I like to watch my team.

Or if there's a really good game on, I'll watch parts of that.

But I just I don't I don't study it enough.

Like I'm guessing you and Brittany do.

Well, the thing about this draft is it was auto drafted.

And we also do

full defensive players.

So there's like defensive linemen, there's a linebacker, there's cornerbacks, safeties, defense punters, kickers.

So it's like, you really had to pay attention and look in the in the waiver wires for players and stuff.

So yeah, I mean, it was interesting.

That's for sure.

I mean, she pretty low in the championship had Derek Henry, and we all

know he did

to the Packers.

And that was the that was the game changer right there.

I mean, that's your that's your dagger as Wayne Larrabee would say.

Yes, exactly.

Well, that's good for Britney.

She's a football fan.

I remember it's a Christmas party a couple of years ago talking to her and she was a huge football fan and she does such a great job with weather.

I think you could have stepped up your game a little bit and given her more of a

run.

I told you, I should have gave my players more of a pep talk, you know.

I know.

But well.

Speaking of your players and Conrad is a huge Packer fan.

I don't know if I've ever met a bigger Packer fan Mike Clemens will be here at 6 10 tonight We will talk to Mike about the shape of the Packers what they're going through.

I think here's the issue though con I don't think the injury report comes out until Wednesday Thursday

actually

Thursday, okay So we might not know too much about what's happening with Jordan Love or

I almost said Mason Rudolph.

Where did that come from?

Josh Jacobs.

I need to know what's going on with Mason Rudolph, Mike.

That's why we asked you here.

So we'll talk to Mike at 610.

Before that, we're going to talk about a great celebration of lights they do in Oshkosh.

For the last several years, the Oshkosh celebration of lights.

We'll talk with Rick Helms about that at 545.

I'm sorry 535 right after news which comes up It will be here in just about 15 or so minutes news sports and weather is on the way We'll have Rick Helms on to talk about Oshkosh Mike Clemens will join us to talk Packers and NFL as the playoffs creep ever closer My pal Paul Gilmartin will join the show at 635 Paul is a great stand-up comic who used to be the host of dinner in a movie on TBS Did I say dinner in a movie?

It's dinner and a movie.

Yeah

Can you tell I haven't talked to anyone today?

Yeah.

Yeah, I can

We got people in the house So I went over to my brother's cottage and I just camped out there and did work Honestly other than a fast zoom meeting this morning.

I was just typing off.

It's a shame I can't type the show because it'd be very legible Yeah,

do you want to

type it

to me and I can I can talk for you

exactly Paul Gilmartin will be here Paul's very funny and What a great do you ever watch dinner in a movie?

You know that show?

No, but I really, it sounds a lot of fun.

They remade it.

Jason Biggs and Jenny Mullen, I think is her name.

I don't know if I'm saying that right, but they're the new hosts.

But Paul and Annabelle Gerwitch hosted it for, I don't know, 15, 20 years.

And it's such a great, it's one of those ideas where I thought I wish I would have thought of that pitch.

Preparing food while you're watching a movie.

It's like an interstitial program.

It was so great.

Paul will be here at 635 and then

We're going to talk a little more about Memories Ballroom and the great New Year's Eve show happening there tomorrow night.

Jim McHugh, who put the whole show together, will be on the show to discuss.

Jim is a very funny guy.

And Conrad, you'll appreciate this.

Jim is a Packer fan living in Chicago.

Oh, that's

awesome.

He and I...

we'll have a great discussion because i'm a bear fan living here in northeast wisconsin and jim is a packer fan we're both men without a home so to speak so we'll have a fun talk about that and he brings his chicago comedy all stars regularly to memories ballroom in port washington a great show and we'll talk to jim at seven i believe seven ten is that we have jim on and then we'll

have

a

Yeah, Mike Kauth will be here from Comedy Sports.

He is a head coach at Comedy Sports, and they have a great New Year's Eve show going on too.

So lots of options.

We're going to keep you guys posted.

Give you some ideas for what you can do tomorrow night.

If you're making last-minute plans, you'll definitely want to hear the rest of the show.

You've got Oshkosh Lights, Mike Kauth in Comedy Sports, and a great show at Memories Ballroom.

So we'll do all of that.

And throughout the course of the show, it'll be fun.

Our last live show of the year, Con.

What do you mean?

People overdo that.

They say, oh, I'll see you next year.

All these great jokes.

But it's weird when a year comes to a close and we've had, I don't know, what do we do, 250 shows or something like that?

Well, I mean, yeah,

we do a lot of shows.

Well said.

He's not the best color man in the business or nothing.

I was looking for some philosophical reflection there.

So ask me what I did last night when I left the studio, Con.

What did you do last night when you

went to the studio?

I went in search for buns.

And I don't, that's not any nefarious.

There's nothing weird about that.

I, for New Year's Eve, we have a party every year.

And this year it's at my sister's house.

And I bought, if you had a Chicago Italian beef sandwich.

Oh yeah, of course.

Okay.

So I got Buena beef.

I got three tubs of it.

And here's where I scored.

This is with Pete.

Pete, if you ever need bargains folks, come to me.

I'm surprised more people don't ask me for advice anyway, but if you're looking for big big savings, they sell it online and they'll deliver it to your house But it's like it was like 180 bucks for three tubs at Jardinera and the bread So I realized here in Marinette at Aldi they sell the tubs for 15 bucks a pop $45 I paid instead of 180 got three jars of Jardinera for like 10 bucks, but I need a buns.

I need a good French rolls Well last night

Schwabistop by Meyer scored a huge win with I think five bags of French rolls Because you got to dip them in the beef juice.

So that's what I'm gonna do.

So I am all set for New Year's Eve.

Oh my years great, by the way, I love Meyer

You know, I haven't been in one in like 25 years.

I didn't even I kind of forgot Wisconsin even had them you go there a lot

Well, I mean, it's pretty close to where I live and you know, I needed a router for my friend.

I know apartment it

It was like there was one for $50 off.

I'm like, I'll take that.

Oh, that's huge.

Yeah.

Myers has big, big savings.

That's cheaper than my French rolls.

I'm kind of annoyed right now.

So what are you doing on New Year's Eve?

Yeah, I'm going to my one of my friends in in Milwaukee at Whitefish Bay.

Yeah,

I'm gonna

spend the spend the night at his house.

Fantastic.

Well, you could watch the big cheese drop.

Donna Hahn last night and that would be that would be fun too but two cities in Wisconsin were ranked in the top 100 to spend New Year's Eve in.

Let's do the question of the night and then after the break I'm going to tell people the two best cities in Wisconsin to spend New Year's Eve.

They're part of a great list but right now it's time for our nightlife question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Here, I have a

question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

It is national bacon day, ladies and gentlemen.

Hot, fun in the summertime is all I have to say.

Bacon is where it's at.

If you haven't tried a slice of bacon, definitely indulge.

And it leads us to our question of the night, which is, what is your favorite kind of meat?

How's that for a vague question?

In honor of National Bacon Day, what is your favorite kind of meat?

855-752-4842, 855-75 civic.

You can also text us on the app.

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If you're at any of these platforms feel free to give us a like or a follow if you're watching on the Facebook YouTube or X But let us know what your favorite kind of meat is be part of the show.

We will read your text on the radio And that's about oh Stacy Sue is she is on it already.

I didn't get the sentence out.

She says turkey Turkey's great.

That's meat, right?

It's foul But it's meat.

It's me.

I always think of like the red meats, but you're right turkey is meat

Some people consider fish meat and that's just not right.

So all right We will do we're gonna do a very quick break news Sports and weather is coming up in about 10 minutes when we come back after this short break I'm gonna tell you the two best cities in Wisconsin to celebrate New Year's Eve.

We made a list folks We made a list.

We're not that high up, but we've got two representatives, which I think is pretty cool and

Yeah, we'll do that.

I'm also going to tell you about a really cool sculpture in honor of Home Alone that Daniel Stern is doing involving himself in a spider.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio

network.

Oh!

It is the eve of New Year's Eve.

Kind of a chill day before we party our little butts off tomorrow night.

Stacy Sue on the stream says, love bacon though.

She said turkey in response to our question of the night, which is what is your favorite kind of meat in honor of National Bacon Day?

Stacy Sue said turkey, but put a disclaimer just now saying she loves bacon.

And that's, bacon's a good thing to love.

It's healthy, it's good for you, especially if you eat pounds of it in one sitting.

It's very good for you.

I am Pete Schwab, but this is Nightlight.

It is great to have you with me on this Tuesday.

We are doing our last live show of the year.

And we will have highlights shows the rest of the week.

So those will be fun too.

And we will be back on January 5th.

Coming up at 5.35 after news, sports, and weather, Rick Helms will be here as the event manager of the Oshkosh Celebration of Lights, which is going on through New Year's.

That's kind of cool, Khan, that they keep it going through Christmas.

Oh, it's great,

yeah.

And you can add that to your New Year's Eve plans if you're still looking for something to do.

Our question of the night, once again, is an honor of National Bacon Day.

What is your favorite kind of meat?

I think I said bacon, but I might... Bacon's from a pig, right?

Yes.

I had to think about that for a minute.

Okay.

So I would have to say bacon are like a good... We had steak on Christmas Day, and my dad made it, and I'm not necessarily like I like meat.

I don't love it.

I could probably be a vegetarian if I had to be, but man, was it good.

So I'd have to say

Bacon or steak, what about you?

I would say a nice juicy burger with bacon on top and some freshly squeezed mayo

That's interesting because I think I would go unless the person making the steak Was great at it.

I would probably go a juicy burger as well with some good condiments like I know it's not as high grade of meat, but Man, it's good stuff.

Oh, yeah

Okay, so I saw this list.

This is from Wallet Hub.

They listed the top cities for celebrating New Year's Eve.

Remember, we kind of got shivved, I thought, on the Christmas list.

Yeah.

Aside from Marinette, which is Christmas City, USA, Wisconsin didn't really represent on the best cities to spend Christmas.

We do have two in the top 55.

So you know what that means, Conn?

Can I take and guess which cities?

One of them is 55th.

That's where I'm going with this.

So we have two cities in the top five.

Yeah, go ahead.

All right.

First one is going to be Milwaukee.

Okay.

And then the second one, I would say Green Bay in the Titletown district.

You are incorrect, sir.

No.

Milwaukee is on the list at number 55.

Okay.

Right behind Key Wascom Madison is 44th.

Oh, okay, so that doesn't surprise me Madison knows at a party as does Milwaukee But I'm surprised that on a list of a hundred cities.

I really thought Green Bay would be on there somewhere

Yeah, I mean they have a really cool title town.

They have a really cool celebration there

Yeah, you've got Orlando, Florida number one.

I mean seriously

because of Disney World There's no other like people spending time at Disney World watching

I don't know.

Whatever they have dropping there.

All right, fair enough.

Number two, Vegas, probably the same deal.

Number three, New York, where they dropped the ball.

That's weird that New York is number three.

You think it would be number

one

because it gets so much press over here.

Number four, Seattle, Washington.

Okay.

Want to bring in the new year with some rain.

Exactly.

Or some great quarterback play from Sam Darnold.

Yeah.

Number five, Los Angeles.

That kind of surprises me.

I mean, LA is a fun town, but it's not like

to the best of my knowledge, there isn't like a central like New York where they kind of do the New Year's thing.

Chicago is the closest place to us.

It's seventh.

And then no other Midwest cities until like, good Lord, St.

Louis is 16th.

Cincinnati is 19th.

St.

Paul was somewhere on this list.

But I feel like Madison and Milwaukee would be higher just because, and I'm not saying this to suck up, but Wisconsin is kind of a party state.

We like our Ackie Hall and I'm surprised these are, I bet no one that made this list has ever celebrated in Madison and Milwaukee.

Would I be wrong to say

that?

No, I think they haven't spent time in Wisconsin.

A lot of people who make these lists.

I agree.

Hey, tell me about Marty Supreme.

You saw Marty Supreme.

Give us the thumbnail.

You said it was great.

It was fantastic.

It was such a fun movie to watch.

I was locked in the whole time.

I was just like, what's going to happen next?

What's going to happen next?

Like the character Marty Mauser, like Timothy Chalamet did him so good.

Like he's kind of a jerk.

But like it's because he has a pursuit of this dream and he won't stop at anything to...

be the number one, you know, champion for ping pong.

And I mean, mainly it's about like, you know, money and stuff like that.

But he just wants to win.

And like, it's just the whole movie is him trying to win.

Did you see balls of fury?

Yes.

Yes.

I love that movie

or a night out on the town.

Did you like the movie?

Balls of fury.

Yeah.

Yeah, I did.

Okay.

How

does

this compare as pink

pop

movies go?

Marty, Marty Supreme is so much better.

Okay.

Balls of Fury is kind of like just a joke movie, you know, just,

yeah,

this,

and you're talking about their buddy.

I know.

I'm just being honest.

Marty, Marty Supreme, my favorite movie of the year so far.

Well, wow, no kidding.

Not even so far anymore because we, you know, I haven't seen Avatar yet, but definitely my number one movie.

I think I told you Avatar like, it's not like I didn't like it, but like the end was, it looked like they just took the end off the second movie and put it on this.

I swear to God, you won't even be able to tell the difference.

You feel like you're watching the same movie.

And the last battle goes on for like 45 minutes.

And they got all these flying creatures.

You don't know who's on what side and it's insane.

But Marty Supreme is definitely on my list, a critics darling.

And also I want to see Song Song Blue based on the Milwaukee couple.

who formed the cover band, Neil Diamond tribute band, Lightning and Thunder.

So those are on my list this weekend.

Lots of show coming up, folks.

Great guests.

We're going to break for news and weather and sports.

And then Rick Helms will be here to tell you about a really cool event they have in Oshkosh that is going on through the weekend.

It's Peach Waba in Nightlight.

We're coming right back on the Civic Media radio network.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

This is Nightlight.

It is great to have you with me tonight, folks.

It is our last live show of 2025.

We will have highlight shows the rest of the week.

But we are going out with a bang.

Great guests tonight.

Paul Gilmartin from Dinner in a Movie will be here at 635.

Mike Clemens coming up at 610 to talk Packers.

Another comedian, Jim McHugh, talking about New Year's Eve shows at Memories Ballroom in Port Washington and Comedy Sports.

Legend and head coach Mike Kauth will help us close up a shop here tonight and Lots to get to our question of the night in honor of National Bacon Day What is your favorite kind of meat?

I say bacon or steak Conrad says a juicy burger and there are no right or wrong answers folks There are only your answers so be part of the fun and be part of the show Alright, it is my pleasure to welcome my first guest of the night

This gentleman is the event manager of the spectacular Oshkosh Celebration of Lights and he joins us now over the stream.

Mr. Rick Helms Rick welcome Thank you.

How you doing tonight?

Oh, it's Rick on the phone.

I'm sorry Rick.

I got that confused.

I'm doing very well.

How are you?

Not too bad All right Well before we get to this really cool festival of yours and I can't wait to talk about it I have to ask do you have a favorite kind of meat Rick?

Well, good burger is definitely a go-to around the house, but there's nothing

beats

a good steak

Boy, I you took a slight pause there Rick and I really appreciate you giving that some thought and noodling the question and not just shouting out the first thing that came to your mind So thank you for your attention to our question of the night All right, so tell us all about the Oshkosh celebration of lights

Well, the Oshkosh Celebration of Lights started as an idea about 25 years ago with half a dozen gentlemen that wanted to do a Christmas event involving lights.

We're in our 24th annual this year.

It

didn't

take too long to get the idea off the ground and running.

That is fantastic.

So, all right, have you been part of it that whole time?

No, I've been a part of the organization for probably about 10 years now

Okay, how much work goes into this?

You know, it's such a long event like six weeks I think you guys start Thanksgiving weekend and go through the new year.

How much planning does that take?

The planning is year-round We never stop working on ideas designs corrections.

There's a lot of maintenance that goes on behind the scenes

all summer long stuff is being repaired, rewired, looking at ways to improve things and what we can change for the following year.

So it really has a quite lengthy process.

The setup alone, we usually begin the second week in October and we're finishing up just before Black Friday when we begin.

Like you said, it's a six week long event.

Yeah.

So all right, so it says you have two and a half miles of drive through the EAA grounds.

into what you call a winter wonderland with millions of sparkling lights.

But what I like about this, too, is it says you can also tune into 101.9 to hear your favorite holiday tunes while you're doing this.

What a great idea.

Tell people who are listening what they might expect if they come in and do this event or take part in

it.

Well, when you pull in, we've got multiple lanes of entry to try and get everybody in in a timely fashion.

And you just enter.

through series of entrance huts where we give you some information and You're also able to make donations to the local food pantries that we work with several of throughout the city

And they

collect tons and tons of food for those that are in need this time of year Once you get past there, then you're into the light show and you're just immersed in trees and displays and cutouts and all kinds of twinkly little things that

bring smiles to all the children.

Is it the kind of thing that gets bigger every year, Rick, or do people come from around the state, or is it mostly a local event?

With the new location out at the EAA grounds, we've started to attract people traveling down Highway 41, and they have no idea what it is, so they drive by and make a point to get off the highway, come and check it out.

So we have a lot of people from outside the area.

We have people that are headed to Chicago that stopped by.

It's definitely a regional show, I would call it, because it's definitely not just the city of Oshkosh.

We attract quite a varied

clientele.

And you also say you have volunteers that make it possible.

I'm sure you have to rely on people to give their time.

I would imagine it's not very difficult finding volunteers for such a fun community activity.

No, we have hundreds of volunteers every year that help throughout the summer doing repairs.

We have volunteers that come out between October and the end of November to help get everything set up from private individuals to local businesses that send teams of people out.

Every night when people drive up to the entrance huts, they're talking to their local volunteers.

They're talking to their friends, their neighbors, their family.

Those are the people that are in those buildings, making sure everything flows throughout the night.

These are the kind of activities I love around this time of year.

It's just people coming together in communities and putting on great shows like this and great community events.

I think I read this right.

It's free, right, Rick?

No, it's $20 per carload.

When you bring the canned food or item donations, then we give you $5 off.

So it's $15.

But every Sunday, we have sponsored community nights.

So those nights are free to the general public to come on out, due to our gracious sponsors.

So we have a community night every Sunday

evening.

That's what I was looking at.

It says free community nights.

Okay, what a great thing.

And people bring food.

I love that.

Tell us a little bit about, since our question of the night deals with meat, you have in your bullet points here, four Bex Meats drawings.

Can you explain that?

What is that, Rick?

We just do a little contest where people can enter to win some back seats because they're one of our sponsors So it's a pretty simple thing to go online and do and you know, we draw some winners and help support a Local small business that does me processing and it's very delicious.

So I use them all the time

Fantastic, my guess is Rick Helms.

He is the event manager for the Oshkosh celebration of lights An activity or an event that sounds like an absolute spectacle right there in the EAA grounds

of Highway 41.

It's a great event.

You also have something called Special Cause Nights.

Rick, what is that?

Well, we'll have different special events going on.

We have a couple nights that are for seniors.

We have Veterans Night.

We've had a night that supports the local Humane Society, so we'll collect items for pets.

that are going up for adoption to help them out as well.

So we just do different things like that to kind of pay tribute to special groups and make sure that they feel welcome and appreciated.

That's excellent.

So what is coming up after this?

What do you do once an event like this is done in the books?

What does Rick Helms do?

Do you have other events you want to talk about or do you take a brief break and start working on this again?

Well, like we said, this is a year round endeavor.

I do have multiple jobs, so I kind of go back to those and concentrate a little bit, and then we kind of get back into it after it takes about a month to take everything down.

So by the end of January, beginning of February, everything's packed away back in the semi trailers and transported back to the warehouse and take a little time off.

And then we start working on repairs and thoughts for

the following year.

Do you have, I see that you have special nights for seniors and veterans.

What are those and what can you tell listeners about that, Rick?

Well, veterans

night, they get to come out for free.

And then seniors night, we do a $10 carload.

So we do two different senior nights and those are all sponsored by other local businesses as well to help offset some of those costs for them.

I would imagine when you're driving by on 41 and you see this great spectacle of lights, it's great publicity for the event.

So I love the location of it.

When people drive through, Rick, how long does it take to get through the grounds or the tour?

Generally takes about 20 to 30 minutes depending on how much you stop and look at the displays.

We do have a couple of animated displays that you can tune in the radio to.

to listen to those specific songs so it kind of depends on how many of those you sit and listen to but 20 to 30 minutes is a pretty good average

okay uh it's two and a half miles folks have seen it drive through the ea a grounds and you can tune your radio to listen to christmas music it's a great event um it goes through when does it end rick i know i read that it goes through uh new year's but what does that mean exactly

but our last night is tomorrow on new year's eve so we always start on black friday

is our

opening night.

You go through New Year's Eve every day.

So it's pretty easy to remember when to come out and visit us in between those timeframes.

And get out there tomorrow night.

What a great year or what a great time to say goodbye to 2025.

They've got horse pulled wagon rides.

It supports local nonprofits.

And there's even a visit with Santa.

So it sounds like an absolute blast, Rick.

Let's have you on a little earlier next year so we can get the jump on this.

But there is still time for people to enjoy it this year, I guess.

Absolutely.

We're running right now tonight and we'll be there again tomorrow night.

All right, fantastic.

Have a great event, Rick, and hope to catch up with you down the road.

Thanks so much for your time tonight.

Thank you.

You got it.

All right, that's Rick Helms, the event manager of the spectacular Oshkosh Celebration of Lights.

Check it out.

It's very reasonably priced and it all goes to a good cause.

You don't mind spending money when it, you know, it's going somewhere that, or to people that need it.

Con, what are your thoughts on

Oshkosh?

I think Oshkosh is a great city.

I'll tell you what, I know that Appleton and Green Bay get a lot of the glory, but my wife's mother grew up in Oshkosh.

My wife went to school there, so I spent a lot of time in Oshkosh.

I did stand up there.

It's kind of, it's not the forgotten city, but it, I feel like it's slightly grittier than like Appleton, but a great city right in the lake, beautiful old homes at College Town.

It's just a great place.

I agree.

I totally agree.

Yeah.

So, all right, we were talking a little bit about Marty Supreme, and you highly recommend it.

I kind of recommend Avatar.

I want to talk about this show that I just finished last night, and it's in my beats for over the weekend.

You'll hear this if you listen to Civic Media through the holiday folks, but Pluribus is just, did not do it for me.

I finished the first season, the whole season after the first episode, which is great.

Nothing happens for like eight episodes and then last night I watched episode nine She finally and I want to say too much about it, but basically there's a It's kind of like people turn into pods and they're friendly, but there's nothing there and this ray of seahorns character is The star of the show and she's cranky and she's an author and I really like her as an actress but even her in this show I was bored to tears and

The last I'm not even giving anything away in the last episode of the first season.

She finally meets someone Another guy from South America who is also like her and doesn't want to be a pod like the pods are trying to get them to be pods because you're so happy and blank and it's just It's bad like Vince Gilligan created Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul two of my favorite shows.

I think he got like I Don't know if it's like out over his skis or what but he's very good at

at showing something like he'll set up a shot in Better Call Saul to start the show and it's someone making coffee and it goes on a while and it's visually interesting and I love how he can take nothing and make it interesting.

Not the case in Pluribus.

The whole show is like that.

It's in my opinion, it's brutal.

If you feel differently or if you're watching it, please let me know.

Let's jump into this and converse.

Lil' Irv on the stream says Larry's Potato Sausage.

It's available now.

Con, what do you think of Potato Sausage?

I don't like potato salad.

Sausage.

Oh, sorry.

You think he's saying potato salad is his favorite meat?

It's close.

It's close.

All right, we'll get into this.

New sports and weather is just about 10 minutes away, folks.

We will get more into potato sausage after the break.

It's peach wabba and nightlight on the Civic Media radio

network.

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

You've got the Civic Media radio network folks.

And it is great to have you here Tuesday as we all prepare for a very fun holiday.

I would say where do you rank New Year's con in your holiday rankings?

I put it at third, I think.

After Christmas, Thanksgiving.

Oh, maybe fourth

actually.

After the fourth.

After the fourth, yeah.

Yeah.

And

then maybe you... I go Arbor Day.

Yeah, I was...

Christmas.

That's a stupid joke, Arbor Day.

I just try to work in Arbor Day whenever I can, because it's just fun to talk about trees.

Yeah.

I put it up there.

It's in my top five.

I don't know where I put it exactly, but it's kind of a chill.

It's nice that you have this after Christmas, because Christmas you have a letdown, but then you also go, well, I still got New Year's, and that's the way to ease back into the real world and a new year.

I think it's great space work.

Whoever came up with this spacing of holidays,

and sequence of holidays, tip of my hat.

All right.

So we were talking right before the break, Lil' Erv on the stream said he liked Larry's Potato Sausage and it's available now.

I don't know this product.

I don't even really know what Potato Sausage is.

I'm assuming they put potato in the sausage.

Like they do cheese or something, but I do like potato.

Potatoes and I do like sausage.

So I assume I would like potato sausage You thought I said potato salad and that would not play into tonight's question.

No Just potato salad.

Just you know, I just don't like

it.

Where do you stand on egg salad?

I Actually like egg salad, but I just can't stand the smell of it

Yeah, I got no I got no place in my life for deviled eggs or egg salad.

I like scrambled eggs

scrambled

eggs, right?

Yeah, they're lovely

Stacy Sue Johnson says, if I could pick where I would like to live in Wisconsin, it would be Madison.

Well, what's stopping you, Stacy?

Stacy is referring to our list of New Year's Eve cities.

Wallet Hub did a study and they ranked the top 100 cities in America to spend New Year's Eve.

Number one was Orlando.

Number two was Vegas.

Number three was New York.

Madison made the list at number 44, and MKE at number 55.

I feel like they should be a little higher.

I know there's a lot of cities.

And I think the fact that you make this list means you have a pretty good New York City.

But it seems like Madison and Milwaukee, just given how much we'd like to party, it seems like they should be higher.

And I'll say this count, Minneapolis is 43rd, right above Madison.

Minneapolis is a great town.

Love it.

But I'm sorry.

It does not have the reputation Wisconsin does As like a party city.

I don't know.

I've probably believing that's ahead of Madison.

Maybe it's because of them all of America and like

They do

say there Yeah,

maybe they do.

It's actually not a bad.

I could see that But let us know folks what our question of the night.

This is a good one, too What is your favorite meat in honor of national bacon day?

That is tonight's nightlight question of the night Brett from the 920 said

Smoked salmon.

Now, that's not a meat, obviously, but it's fish that's smoked and it's kind of dense.

I would almost accept that.

I would accept that.

It's great.

Smoke salmon is fantastic.

They got a party cold with onions and all kinds of trimmings.

Good stuff.

Thank you, Brett.

262 says, always a steak, medium rare.

How do you get your steak, Con?

Extra done.

Extra done, yeah.

I like Rover.

No, actually, I like medium.

Yeah, I like a medium, too, with slightly well done, but not too well done.

I don't like when I'm eating a steak and it's like in a pool of blood.

It just kind of grosses me out a little bit.

I know it's probably more macho to like your steak like that, but I'm willing to concede this one.

That was from Tiff in Nashville.

Thank you, Tiff.

Tiff also says somebody needs to open a good old-fashioned Wisconsin supper club down here.

Well...

No time like the present tiff get to it 262 tiff I wonder if that would go over There's because they don't yeah all these Chicago people like they go to door county always said oh great deep dish pizza, but I think like a lot of Chicago people go to door county I don't think you want to deep dish pizza like you get at home I think you want cheese curds or a supper club And I don't know if that would work in Nashville, but I think a good Wisconsin supper club if it's done right would probably flourish anywhere

Just my two cents.

What do you think?

I think, I mean, in Denver, they have a Wisconsin's bar there.

Okay.

And I mean, every all the Packers go there, obviously, and, you know, not the Packers players, but Packers fans.

Okay, looks like a such a fun time too.

Yeah.

So I think it can do well.

I think there was this supper club I used to go to in three legs, we'd spend like the whole day swimming and all that and we go out and they had that like that.

cheese spread.

It was like mercs cheese.

It's not, it's like a cheese.

They probably add stuff to it.

It's not like pure cheese.

But damn, was it good on a cracker with like a Coke as a kid?

And I used to watch the adults drinking old fashions.

I was like, I could not wait to be an adult and have an old fashion.

I mean, the kitty cocktails were pretty good, though.

That's true.

I know you're kind of being funny, but that's I know they were

they were

great.

Yeah.

So I was getting back to a pluribus.

I do not recommend it if you're watching the show I know it's got its fans and people are going with it and I think partially based on the street cred of better call Saul and Breaking Bad, but I would love to hear if you are watching pluribus I would love to hear what you like about it and have a spirited discussion not an argument certainly there are good things to it, but I would love to hear that If you have thoughts on that all right coming up in hour number two after the news and sports and weather

will be our Civic Media Sports Authority, Mike Clemens.

He will be joining us and we will press Mike a little bit on packer injuries.

What else does he think Mike wants to talk about, Con?

You're a big time packer.

Well, I mean, I was going to make the joke that maybe we need a new injury cart.

I saw that I laughed.

Yeah, it needs an oil change for how many trips they've made this year so far.

It certainly does they are decimated for sure probably worse than anybody else in the league Mike will be here at 610 and then Paul Gilmartin former host of dinner in a movie and a very funny comedian won't be here at 635 a comedian Jim McHugh at 710 and then comedy sports head coach Mike Alth helps us Close out the show for 2025.

He'll be here at 720 We are coming back folks after new sports and weather stick around a lots more nightlight coming up.

This is Pete Schwabba on the Pacific media radio now

keep on the sunny side always on the sunny side keep on the sunny side of life it will help us every day it will brighten all the way

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Peach Waba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who once tore his ACL playing chess, Peach

Waba.

Welcome back.

We are kicking off act two here of nightlight on a Tuesday night a beautiful Tuesday night and one of the most fun Relaxing weeks I would say of the year a lot of people take time off We've got time between Christmas and New Year's to just kind of chill out and hang with family or by ourselves Watch some color television.

Whatever we whatever we prefer.

It's a great week and this is our last live show of 2025

So it is great to have you here, folks.

We'll have highlight shows coming up Wednesday through Friday and be back live on January 5th, kicking off the New Year right with New Year's resolutions galore and all kinds of fun stuff.

But for tonight, we've got a lot of show coming up and I'm going to recap the show after we welcome this next guest because he is a busy guy.

And we love talking to him about the NFL and all things sports.

He is a civic media sports authority and our pal who covers the Packers like no other.

Mr. Mike Clemens.

Hey, Mike.

Hi, Pete.

You know, I wonder maybe there's still some people with the cabin up north where there's still a black and white TV.

You know what I'm

saying?

Well, I hope so.

That would be kind of fun and nostalgic.

What are you rocking, Mike?

You got a big flat screen there for all your clips?

Well, I'm in my motel room here at the Bay Motel in Green Bay.

But actually, my wife got tired of waiting me for me.

I said, look, when the season's over with, I'll be home and then we'll go out and get one.

And then my daughter came back from Boston and said, oh, this is ridiculous.

And they just went out and bought their own new damn TV.

So I don't even know how to work it.

I'm the man of the house and I don't know how to work the new TV I found out over Christmas.

That's very masculine.

You could buy a black and white plasma mic or a little black and white like Michael Scott had on the office.

I don't know if you ever saw that episode.

It was very

fun.

I'm so busy during football season and as busy as baseball got toward the end there and still running down to see, you know, some bucks or badges from time to time that I really, I mean, I can't think of them.

I saw them.

I saw the last time I saw a film was on a plane ride.

You know, wow.

well and i you know what is one that i thought did tremendous marketing during training camp and i was too busy but the marketing for naked gun with the new york newton and pamela anderson i thought she like reinvented her career you know and they're a little alleged they know uh... off-camera affair and all that stuff and all the social media stuff but and this is a brilliant marketing campaign they've got going

so i was excited cuz it was on the long plane right back from Denver i thought i'll watch this movie that i get a chance to see the theater last summer not so good yeah i i loved airplane from the zucker brothers out of shorewood which by the way my brother is uh... like an i t person for those guys for david

and all guys

out in LA uh... i love the naked gun because you know what let's leave nielsen was funny

You know, he played all those melodramatic roles in the 50s and 60s, and when they tabbed him to switch to comedy, like with Lloyd Bridges and all that, it was funny.

But Liam doesn't

believe

funny very well.

I think we discussed this briefly last time you were here, and I had David Zucker on the show probably two months ago, and he was not happy about the remake.

Like he had a script for it and everything, and he didn't trash it.

He stayed pretty much above it.

But you could tell there were some bad feelings there.

And when you see the movie, you're like, yeah, there's there's a few laughs.

There are a few laughs, but it's not it's not the Zucker Brothers.

And it's not.

I had

five snort laughs at the thing, you know, like, OK, that's fun.

That's kind of clever.

I thought, am I missing something?

Is there like a bunch of cameos from contemporary stars that are in the background that I'm missing?

You know what, you know, what is it?

It's

totally agree with me.

Yeah.

Yeah, the reason he was the day would be it was being diplomatic royalties.

Yeah, piece of the action.

Yeah, exactly.

I think he's probably doing okay.

But, you know, at some point, you know, he's been around so long.

He knows the drill.

He knows the dance.

It's just, yeah, he was very interesting to talk to.

But

so you're able to see the game Saturday night.

I did.

Yeah.

And I really thought, you know, the

The Ravens kind of broke it open a little bit and Derek Henry was unstoppable But man, I thought I thought the Packers with Malik Willis couldn't make a comeback there and it looked like they were going to for a while

Speaking of flops, right, you know, you know, uh It's a 27 it's 27 to 24 and Now the defense has finally gotten to stop because the Ravens scored the every time they touched the ball in the first half And the first time coming out a half time They were unstoppable field goals touched downs

Whatever, but then now you got him third and five and They could and Derek Henry runs for nine yards and gets a first down on the next play.

He runs for 30 216 yards rushing four touchdowns the last touchdown Rashawn Gary gets blocked out by a receiver who he can't shed and Derek Henry just runs by him, you know, basically

You know, number 52 is out there escorting him to his fourth touchdown.

They have not had a visiting running back score on them for rushing touchdown since 1984 in a game against the Buccaneers.

Emmett Smith one time had four touchdowns, one though was a reception from Troy Aikman back at 95.

But I mean, it's epic.

So what I did, you know, some of the things I do for some of the networks is, you know, they send me over to

to talk to maybe the guys from the winning team so john harbaugh veteran coach he's won one super bowl as the head coach of the ravens where we beat his brother jim when they beat the forty nine hours and a super bowl john harbaugh comes to the podium and he talked about this big win and now they're back to eight and eight and now they're just a game behind the Steelers they're gonna meet next sunday night for the asc north title this is the head coach after the game

just a heart defining win is what that was

The type of win that makes you proud to be a Raven, makes you proud to be with these guys every single day, starting with Derek Henry and Tyler Huntley and everybody else that led the way to this victory.

So very proud of these guys, very grateful for this game, very grateful for this win.

Derek talked about it in the pregame prayer and talked about, I'm gonna make you ask him what he said in the pregame prayer and what he talked about to the guys.

Can I just think the belief on this football team is that a real

Is that a level that I've never really seen before because we've been through a lot

Yeah, that's uh, I mean how could you not say that after that win and they had Huntley a quarterback Mike like we talking about Malik Willis who has performed beautifully But they beat the Packers with Huntley

Yeah, and well, but you know, you knew that Lamar Jackson had jacked up his back In the game.

I think it was against the Patriots

and he was listed as doubtful but there's just no way he was going to be playing this week so you knew that you knew this game was going to be the derek henry show he's thirty two years old now he's six-foot three two hundred fifty two pounds he has the largest biceps i've ever seen i've been around a couple times now and he sees a train and and it takes an extra effort to bring this guy down derek henry then you know he came to put you into the way a coach said that you'd you know do a little speech before

the game.

What did you tell the team?

I did the prayer before the game and I just talked about guys playing free and trusting and believing in each other.

We've been through a lot this season.

There's no shine away from that.

We know what we need to do to be able to still give ourselves a chance.

playing for each other and understanding that the Lord is going to be there with us regardless and he's been with us this whole time.

So, Hats off to the guys just blocking all on, like Coach Harper said, tight ends, receivers, full backs, this unselfishness of them sacrificing their bodies for us to have success in the run game and dominate the line of scrimmage and dictate the game the way we want to.

It's like a lot of players do that, Mike.

They thank God or Jesus for the wind and that kind of stuff.

And it reminds me of the great comedian George Miller who used to go on David Letterman and said, yeah, the game was going really well until Jesus made me fumble.

He would just love to hear somebody say

it.

Letterman loved him.

He was so funny and such a great writer.

He was funny.

Derek Henry, 32 though.

I mean, are there backs that are 32 that are still every down back?

So it seems like they're like, you know, come out of the backfield to make catches, but Derek Henry, man, still going strong.

Well, Adrian Peterson played pretty late, you know, so did Emmett.

I mean, guess what?

He's a future Hall of Famer.

So Tyler Huntley, who they've been calling Snoop now, the backup quarterback, who gets a lot of play because Lamar Jackson's always out there running around getting banged up.

Listen to this carefully.

And on what he saw after he was handing the ball off to Derek Henry, 30 plus times all those yards and scoring four touchdowns.

When he touched that ball, I was like, yeah, they not ready.

They not ready.

And he ran straight down hill, out on the block.

I tied in receivers they block and then you know that was and everybody executed so

I Guess is Mike Clemens he joins us here on nightlight periodically to talk Packers Brewers bucks he does it all and we're talking about the Packers loss versus the Ravens last weekend Mike what do you make of I mean it seems like Where are the Packers at with injuries and has it affected their locker room at all to the best of your knowledge?

well they were having players drop you know like every ten minutes or so they lost the defense of tackle jordan riley to the killies uh... on up and coming defense of backham all hayden had an ankle injury zane anderson does a really nice job on special teams and as a backup safety uh... he had to leave the game with an ankle injury don't give you the wicks wide receiver with a concussion to those guys riley hayden they're done for the season they had to make some moves today a special teams are bringing back a guy named jonathan ford

who had been a backup for years and recently it was with the Bears they let him go so yeah they're kind of scrambling you know it's the NFL that happens but i went to Evan Williams who says bright second year safety a hard hard working player and you know they when you the guys in the NFL they call effort play style play style and we asked Evan what happened in that game why couldn't you stop Derek Henry today

honestly i feel like

To start out, it's just our play style.

That's what it starts and ends with.

And I feel like we just didn't have that today.

That knockback that we're used to, the physicality at the point of attack, not that guys were straining and stuff.

It was just not enough to get it done.

And that's all I can say right now.

Edger Cooper called it embarrassing.

Yeah, no, yeah.

I mean, any time you come out, you've got to have something to prove in this league on every snap.

Otherwise,

You know, teams are good enough to come out and embarrass you, like, you know, like what you just saw.

Boy, that's a great, that's a great quote.

And you kind of, like you said earlier, Mike, you know what the Ravens are going to do with a backup quarterback and a horse like Derek Henry in the backfield.

But that's kind of why I was asking about their morale.

They just see all their teammates going down and they're kind of limping into the postseason.

It's got to be a little demoralizing.

Yeah, you know, listen.

They've lost three games in a row now ever since what?

Micah Parsons went down.

Right.

And when they acquired Micah Parsons, week one in a huge trade from the Dallas Cowboys, it completely changed that defense.

Every time you'd watch the opposing teams, the first thing they had to, you know, Micah Parsons was like a shark in your swimming pool.

You've got, you can't avoid him.

Where is he now?

Where is he now?

And Josh Jacobs came running and the star, you know, running back, number eight, who's been dealing with a swollen knee for a month now.

And he says everyone, the offense, the defense, and even the coaches need to take a deep dive to figure out why they've now lost three in a row.

I think we all got to look in the mirror.

I mean, from the top down, coaches included, I think we got to look in the mirror and have a reality check on what we need to do to even give more or to do more for this team.

And I think collectively, as a team, once we do that, figure out what we want and what direction we want to go.

the things that we need to fix and go ahead and correct them.

That was Josh Jacobs.

Mike Clemens is our guest.

We will be back to break down that comment by the Packers running back after a very short break.

We'll have Mike for a couple minutes on the other side of it.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Guys, I want to pump the brakes and all that stuff.

I think Jordan Love was playing some...

pretty high-level football and it's great that we feel the same about Malik in his ability to go in there.

I thought he's had two really back-to-back outstanding performances so we're in a good spot with that position.

Certainly have a lot of confidence in both of those guys but I mean it's pretty clear that Jordan is our franchise quarterback and he is going to be the when he is healthy he's going to be our starter so I just want to squash all that.

Welcome back to Nightlight IMP Chihuahua.

That was Packers head coach Matt LaFleur talking about the quarterback situation.

Malik Willis has played really well.

Mike Clemens is here helping us sort of sift through what's going on with the Green Bay Packers with playoffs looming.

Mike, I love the phrase, the most popular player in town is the back of quarterback, but that pretty much sums it up as well as Willis has played.

You just paid love all this money and he's got pretty dug on good numbers too.

Yeah, and you know, every time that he's had his opportunity, he can move the football.

He's more of a running quarterback.

Last week, we were down in Chicago, and a guy named Austin Booker, who got fined $10,000, $11,000 for drilling his helmet into George Love and giving him a concussion, that Malik went

in

there, that he got wrapped up by Montez Sweat, who drilled his right shoulder, his throwing shoulder into the turf, and, you know, that's been sore all week.

He's out there with a sore shoulder.

I mean, thrown darts.

I mean, zipping the ball around.

You know what his quarterback rating was Saturday night against the Ravens?

134.6.

Darn near perfect.

And he's out

there, run around, throwing, and then at one point in the second half, the pain was so much, he ran off the field into the locker room to get a check out to make sure there wasn't something serious going on.

Came back out and finished the game.

The third string quarterback, they've got a guy on the roster named Clayton Tune, he threw a pass.

the ball melton which bounced off his hand turned out to be an interception but you know if it if the defense had shown up the packers could have won that game with their backup quarterback and malik was asked about you know how he felt the effort was during that loss to the ravens

We were fighting.

I don't think nobody on that offense was not fighting.

I think the defense were fighting.

I think it just didn't go their way tonight.

And that's the way this league works.

They're good players everywhere.

And we just got to look at the film, step back and figure out what's wrong and fix it.

That's all it takes.

Even more impressive, I think, Mike, is that they had time to, they were game planning probably from Malik Willis and he still put up those numbers.

Like when he went in against the Bears, people said, oh, well, they weren't expecting him.

Well, now they were and he put up, he was great.

There was a guy, see, and people, there's no way, and as LaFleur just said, look, our quarterback wanted Jordan Love, please.

Please, get serious.

He was asked that question because there's so many fans that get on social media or call shows like yours and stuff that say, well, maybe they should start Movique Willis.

Maybe he's the one with all that.

No, no, no.

Let Jordan Love come back from the concussion.

Get through the protocol.

yada yada yada.

Matter of fact, Jordan took most of the snaps last week.

He just didn't pass the protocol on Friday.

So, but let a lesson be learned.

You know, let's be innovative because once upon a time, back in 2017, you had Aaron Rodgers, a guy named Joe Callahan and Brett Hundley.

I don't think you, those guys are in the league.

That's when you decided you're back up quarterbacks because they, I think they had another guy that was undrafted by the name of Tate from Hill, who during the preseason,

was lighting up the offense just like you see malik willis do but they didn't think he had as good an arm if he's other guys you know

he didn't

have the the pedigree so they released them well guess what shawd patin the head coach of the norland saint who's now got a broncos team that looks like they might represent the a c in the super bowl he said you know i was watching green bay for their tight ends and i thought this guy in the preseason of the pod that's a football player so we put him on special teams

He made him an occasional tied in.

Sometimes he backed up, you know, drew breeze in the other quarterbacks.

He's still playing for the Saints.

He won a game for them a couple of weeks ago.

So it's like, you know, be more creative.

If you've got an athlete, find them a spot on the field and maybe that's what they need to think about with Malik Willis.

Absolutely.

Mike, we have about a minute left.

It looks like the Packers and the Bears are going to play again.

I don't know if I'd say most likely, but a very good chance.

The NFC North will be represented in the playoffs, but I think everybody thought they were this big bad conference and now it turns out to be the NFC West.

How do you like the Packers going into the playoffs given what they're going through now?

Do you think they'll be less banged up in a couple weeks?

No, no, I don't like what's going on.

I don't like how they finished last, you know, when we're talking to Brian Goodekins at the Combine around the conference table last February says, you know, we lost our last three games, lost to the Vikings.

Lots of the bears that was embarrassing and then we lost to the eventual Super Bowl champions to the Eagles 22 to 10.

We can't have that happen.

Well, they just lost three games in a row.

This is not the way you want to be playing going into the postseason.

So right now they're trying to figure out do we even play?

There's no ramifications in Sunday's game at US Bank against the Vikings other than pride.

So do you think you could need to get your team ready or do you need to get them rested up and you'll probably play the Bears in Chicago or

Possibly the Eagles in Philadelphia because now you're the seventh seed the last team to sneak in as a wild card You're playing on the road the rest of the way, but there was a team that once did that it was the 2010 Packers and they won Super Bowl 45

Well said Mike, thank you so much as always pal.

Hey, do you have a favorite meat Mike?

It's national bacon day

a favorite meat.

Yeah

a favorite meat

I, you know, I'd have to, you know, I've been partial to ham lately.

Man, a good ham is pretty darn good, right?

Yeah.

I think that's a great choice.

And I had to ask, because, you know, you cover the packers.

So it was an appropriate question, but the

next body time on a New Year's day, mom got some sort of a great, great ham, you know, with the brown sugar stuff on the outside.

And we're just shaving that off with mustard.

And nice big sob on, you know, watching the Rose Bowl.

Oh, man, I'm making myself hungry now.

That's livin'.

Hey, buddy, have fun out there at the game this weekend and look forward to talking again soon.

Happy New Year.

Happy New Year to you guys.

All right, thanks, Mike.

That's Mike Clemens, Civic Media Sports Authority.

Follow him at Twitter, Mike Clemens, NFL, and read his stuff.

He does outstanding work, as you just heard.

So what do you think, Con?

Packers going into the playoffs.

Do they, do they have a fighter's chant?

Packers

Super Bowl.

Do you rest the starters?

No, get them out there ready to play.

They've been, they don't deserve a break.

They suck.

Okay, fair enough.

New sports and weather is next then.

Paul Gilmartin from Dinner in a Movie joins me here at Nightlight with Peach Waba.

Welcome back.

I'm Peach Wabba.

Happy New Year, everybody.

We are barreling toward New Year's Eve here, which is tomorrow.

Hope you have your plans.

If you don't have plans for New Year's Eve, you need to stick around because in hour number three, a friend of mine, Jim McHugh, will tell you where you can spend New Year's Eve and get big, big laughs.

And following that, if improv is your game, comedy sports head coach Mike Kauth will be here to tell us all about their New Year's Eve shows.

We talked about the Oshkosh Festival of Lights.

That is still going on.

All kinds of options out there.

Or you can stay home, like most Americans, and watch Netflix.

Still lots more show to come.

This is our last live show of the year.

We'll have highlight shows running throughout the rest of the week.

But right now, I'm very excited to welcome my next guest.

He's been here before, and he is a very good friend of mine.

He is very successful, hilarious stand-up comedian, and the former host of the show.

Dinner in a Movie, he hosted that for years on TBS, a great show, and he joins me now on Nightlight, Paul Gilmartin.

Hey, buddy.

PDP.

How are you?

Happy holidays, buddy.

Good to see you.

They rebooted Dinner in a Movie, and I was a guest on it recently, which was surreal.

That is all the questions I had prepped for you, and you just answered them, so thank you for that.

I was going to ask you if you watched it, and if they

I assume they would have you on.

You were such a great host.

What was that like?

I mean, you said it was surreal, but like, were they thrilled to have you?

I can't believe

it.

Very nice.

Everybody was nice.

Like the crew, like I walked in and they like clapped and I mean.

crews are always, and especially production staff, are you in show business, the TV, they're always like falling over themselves to make sure guests feel at home, at least the stuff that I've been on.

So, you know, I don't know how much of it was that, but it felt very, it felt very nice.

And Jason and Jenny, the hosts, super nice, very self deprecating.

And yeah, it was

It was interesting.

This has

Jason Biggs tried to make it with a baked good yet while hosting the show.

I can't swear on this.

So all I'm going to say is underwear and muffins.

I don't even know what that means.

Well,

my wheels are turning just so you know, I kind of I'm putting a picture together with that.

I love it.

So that's pretty cool.

You, this was such a great, I always say, you know, I wish I would have thought of that pitch because making food while watching a movie, the two just seemed to go hand in hand.

You had such a great run on that show.

And I know at times, Paul, you were this really edgy, great comedian.

And you seem to go into that gig with a little reluctance, but then you seem to embrace it.

It was such a fun gig, I would imagine.

Thanks.

I really appreciate you saying that because as you know, having been a stand-up, yeah, we want audiences to like us, but we really want our peers to like us because we spend time with them.

It affects your professional self-esteem.

And I wasn't sure whether or not this show was something that my peers

would approve of or not because you know there's a lot of compromises you know when you do television and you have to really dial back what you would normally say as a comedian on stage in a nightclub and so there was a lot of that compromise and you don't have control over what's going on around you just your reaction to it and so for the first probably 12 episodes I was in anguish about things that I thought were

Lame or the comedic rhythm or what my co-host was saying and then it occurred to me When I had gone through second cities training program, I was never paid performer there, but I went through their their workshops One of the things I learned is instead of trying to steer things into how you think they should be just be in the moment and React

to what is in front of you and that's when I went oh I because Annabelle used to really annoy me and and I thought oh I'll have the camera i.e the audience be like a third person for this you know

Yeah, get get together conversation whatever you want to call it So just like when you're around a friend who can sometimes be annoying you'll look at that other friend like right my god Can you can you believe this and that for me was when I feel like I found my legs on the on the show

Do you have like I think all of us

you know, I think we're gonna reinvent the wheel when we start doing stand-up comedy.

And we're gonna be great, and we're gonna be the next, you know, Richard Pryor or whatever.

But to your point, what you just said, because you were, I remember stuff Dennis Miller said about you before he was crazy and had all these glowing things to say about Paul Gilmartin.

But when you get this gig, it might not be last week tonight with John Oliver, but everyone.

to a person in the business goes, oh, nice.

Like, you got a gig.

You got a hosting gig.

You're making

great money.

And I know,

but I mean, giving in terms of not having to be on the road and making money.

Yes.

But

when you look back, do you feel that way now?

Were you like, yeah, that was a great.

I'm so glad I did that.

Yeah, I always felt that I was really lucky to have found a gig that allowed me to buy a house and not be on the road 40 weeks a year.

That

from the get-go, I felt that way about it.

And I still feel that way today.

The difference how I feel today is I'm proud of the creative work of it because I can look in hindsight and say 90% of my anguish was just my low self-esteem and my self-obsession.

And I just needed, I needed somebody back then to slap me and say, get over yourself, go have fun.

Well, I could tell you from the perspective of a guy who was your friend who I looked up to when I started and I remember watching you think at all Paul's great, you know I loved when when some of us moved to LA and didn't have a whole lot of money when we first got there and you were taking woodworking classes and helicopter lessons like you didn't know what to do The money you were making and we just wanted to be in that realm, you know, it's like God I just want to get there, you know

It's funny your friends never tell you that at the at the time

Yeah,

keep it to themselves.

So while I knew any comedian wants to have a gig and be making money, they don't come right out and say it.

And it's really only after time has passes that we have those conversations with with each other.

And I felt the same way about you as a stand up in terms of quality.

And as a writer, I've always felt that.

that way about you.

You had an eye for characters.

You know, the the godfather of Green Bay, when I read that script, I was getting over a surgery and it hurt to laugh.

And and I was in pain in several moments in that script.

And it's very hard to make me laugh.

So I had no idea right back at you.

Well, thank you sir.

I appreciate that.

So all right, so you went on the show.

And and I have to say paul I might have said this to you last time you were here That I was surprised that you know you're you look good.

You're in shape You still but I mean you could you could host a show like that Did they ever come back to you and say hey, we want to reboot and maybe put you with a younger host or No,

okay, and honestly even though I would have loved the money creatively I would just feel like I did all that I could do in that

Medium with that premise because honestly the last Few years of this show it really felt like I was recycling things and repeating myself and I always loved the people that I worked with the crew the cast the producers That part I miss but as far as coming up with jokes for rush hour three

No, I don't.

We showed that that movie, I don't know, like six times.

And by the fifth time, trying to come up with a joke, you know, when you come out of the movie directly to you, we would usually try to find a joke or something to comment on it.

And boy, it was just tumbleweeds trying to come up with another another joke for that.

This is gonna sound really weird.

I hope you don't mind if I if I change the subject No, I don't know because of of where you are and where you live I just finished a book about the Edmund Fitzgerald and it was one of the most compelling books I've ever read in my life I've ever seen on Kindle that got five out of five stars with hundreds of

Wow.

I believe it's called the Gales of November.

Oh, I've heard of that, yeah.

Yeah, it was so good and it, I don't know, it just makes me think of that area and just how beautiful and rugged and dangerous and awesome.

Yeah, it's weird.

I live in northeast Wisconsin around, while Green Bay, obviously, Lake Michigan, Lake Superior is like three hours north.

I've become fascinated by shipwrecks and and these sailors that have to sail the Great Lakes which at times as I understand it is more difficult than the ocean because you don't have those swells that you can ride that waves are more violent and

That's what they

say happen with the Edmund Fitzgerald.

It might have just split in two, right?

Yeah, because of fresh water and but according to this book fresh water is lighter than salt water and so the

the time between waves can be very, very short.

And you can have two waves pushing the ship up at the same time.

And if one is on the front, the other is on the back, and you've got 32 million pounds of iron ore in the middle, it's going to break.

That's fascinating.

And I love that you transitioned into the Edmund Fitzgeralds.

I'm talking about your gig with dinner in a movie.

Well, there were both shipwrecks.

They were both tragedies that people would rather not remember.

Knew you were going to say that.

Paul Gilmart is, by guest, very funny, very talented stand-up comedian and the former host of Dinner in a Movie.

You know, Paul, we have about three minutes till we have to go to a break.

I would love it if you could tell that story.

When I moved to LA, maybe we should keep this till after the break, but I would love for you to tell the story when my wife and I moved to LA and because of the whole Richard Marks fiasco.

We stayed at your house because you and Carla your wife at the time were out of town And I had an issue with your dog that I completely forgotten about until the last time you're on the show So I'm gonna ask you just to think about that if you could if you could talk about that when we come back from a break But in the meantime, um, are you doing any stand-up?

No

No, for a while, I was still doing political satire as a character, a really kind of right wing, crazy character.

Richard Martin, right?

Richard Martin, yeah.

Very funny.

But I don't really do him anymore.

If somebody invites me to go do something local, I will do it.

But yeah.

That's kind of how I am.

I do this local football fundraiser every year.

It's not a ton of money for a guy from LA, but you were a

Just keep that in the back.

If you ever want to come to the Midwest, Paul and tour various shipwrecks, you are welcome to take the stage at the Little River Country Club in Marinette.

So we'll talk about that off the air.

But have you ever had the urge, given the success you had?

Like you said, I mean, who doesn't want to paycheck, right?

For you to host another show, could you pitch something similar to dinner in a movie?

That doesn't really interest me because that's not where my

it doesn't get the creative juices flowing.

Honestly, what gets the creative juices flowing these days is making furniture.

And that's what I spend most of my time.

And, you know, I'm still doing the podcast, the metal owners happy hour podcast.

And yeah, that does get my juices going too, but I've got a lot of juice.

I'm juicy.

That's what I'm trying to say.

So furniture making I could talk about endlessly for

hours and hours

that is so cool that you're still doing that and it's it's creativity too like what a fun uh i can't even use the screwdriver but i admire you for for making the furniture it's pretty cool um so all right paul gill martin is my guest we will have a few more minutes with paul on the other side of this break i'm gonna ask him to tell a very funny story involving me and his dog charlie that i had totally forgotten about and uh i'm gonna ask him who his favorite comedians are

Given who we started doing stand-up around in Chicago was a glorious time for comedians and I'll ask Paul all about that when we come back after this very short break It's Pete Schwabba and nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network

Hey, this is Mike Starr and you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back.

Alrighty, folks.

We've got new sports and weather coming up in just a few minutes.

We've got a few more minutes with my pal, Paul Gilmartin, who is joining us from Los Angeles over the stream.

Paul I mentioned before the break when we started doing stand-up you started a little bit before me, but you had guys like John Regi Who won Emmys Bob Odin Kirk Jeff Garland?

Were those We all love to watch those guys, but did they influence your comedy in any way and you have a favorite of those guys?

I'm sure I'm sure they did in terms of my favorite to watch I would put John Regi up there Yeah, you know

You Jimmy Pardo Bill Laugh.

I'm you know, I'm sure there are tons of Steven Leo comedy team Steven Leo, especially Leo But yeah, there was a lot of guys that that I watched and my then wife Carla was a huge coming in film.

It's on me great joke writer Great.

She knew how to edit should she probably educated me more about

Comedy because she wouldn't be around the bush.

You know, she would be like that jokes too long or there's no joke in there That's just a premise right now.

Yeah.

Oh, that's great I love that you said I don't know if I told you this but I ended up working on a script with Steven Leo and When I came back here, they were still or one of them was in Chicago The other one was in LA so we're in different spots.

So we would Skype and I that was so invaluable just to watch those two interact I was in tears

just watching like Leo would go and act like the screen had frozen and then he would move like just Leo being Leo.

But the two of them together were so funny.

You're right.

We were spoiled by the comics we got to watch because it was such a great time for comedy.

Are you surprised at Bob Odenkirk's?

Not success.

He was always incredibly talented.

But when you see him as an action hero now, I'm like, you

got to be kidding

me.

This guy

is

like.

Yeah, what is he doing right other than being smart and talented?

Yeah, he is one of the most focused hardworking people.

I know I remember one night we had all kind of finished our shows.

It was midnight on a Saturday night and we walked to a bar that had an outdoor patio and Bob was there writing sketches at midnight.

Working at midnight on a Saturday while we're all drinking beer and this was before this probably would have been like 1990 Somewhere somewhere around them, but no I'm not surprised at all and Bob will always took chances.

He's one of the most fearless people I I know he was

not afraid to bomb in fact He relished it it seemed like at times

he

wanted to make the back of the room laugh

Um, but it's it's funny.

I heard this great story about him.

He was a waiter at Ed DeBevix in Chicago and he had written the Matt Foley sketch and sent it to his buddy at Saturday Night Live.

I think it was Robert Smigel or somebody and he's waiting on a table and there's Chris Farley doing Matt Foley.

And he's just like, hey, I wrote that sketch.

Like, what a fun, really?

Yeah, it was just great.

And it's just such a great story when you hear stuff like that.

And people who are so talented, getting ahead, and now he's starring in Wobody 2.

It's insane.

I did get to experience that when Dennis Miller had a five night a week show, I was a faxing staff joke writer from Chicago.

And it would be so bizarre to write a joke that morning and see it come out of his mouth at night.

It was a very powerful feeling for somebody who was, you know, I've been doing stand-up maybe three, four years.

It was very cool.

Here's where I'm at with guys like you or guys that are our age that kind of segue out of stand-up before social media.

These great jokes a guy like you did, where do people see them now?

they're not like that joke you did about going into the bank and waiting in line forever by the it was the guy who attempted a transaction that's never been performed to be for and he wanted to change the name of the ship on his checks and you're in line behind this guy and you freak out and then you get up there and you go oh thanks you're letting me go ahead i'd like a hundred dollars in buffalo nickels one of the greatest jokes i've ever heard where can people see

The

comedy of Paul Gilmour I think that might be on my comedy central half hour, which is now about 20 years old But comedy central presents Paul Gilmour and I think I did that that joke On that one.

I want to promote my my furniture.

Uh, please shaped furniture.com Wow Yeah, yeah, depending on what it is and it might be expensive to shit

A coffee table or an end table, but that's mostly what I make coffee tables and tables

selling furniture Steve Seger and Leo are selling art I hate people that leave this business and do great things with I don't even trust people like you.

It's incredible good for you Do you have time to tell the Charlie story?

We've got about two minutes.

Maybe I

there's probably parts of it that I'm missing But I remember I you know, I love my dog Charlie.

I thought she was the most perfect dog affectionate

love the cuddle.

And so when you and Mary were staying over, I was like, these guys are going to fall in love with Charlie.

And so we come back home and I was like, how did it go?

And just you were like, she spent the whole time on my pillow licking her ass.

You were so annoyed.

Why not even

remember that?

That's so

Oh, that's great.

Paul, we did a screening of my film that you mentioned earlier, the Godfather of Green Bay in Madison about a month ago.

And it was a civic media sponsor.

It was a great event.

Lots of fun at this great spot called the Atwood Music Hall.

And on the big company meeting, they said, yeah, and we'll get the proceeds to go to the Dane County Humane Society.

And I'm like, I don't even like animals.

And I swear, half the company was like, what?

And the chat box lit up.

Outside of eating them.

I just

have allergies.

And I love your question to the night.

That doesn't get any more Midwest.

Oh, favorite kind

of

meat.

It's favorite meat.

We

got about 30 seconds.

You got a

favorite meat?

I would say Chicago style Italian beef sandwich or the pickled human foot.

It's very close between the two of those.

Well, I have one of those in three tubs ready for New Year's Eve this week.

I'm very excited about that, and it's not the human feet.

Portillo's or Al's roast beef?

Absolutely.

We've been to a few of those places.

Paul, thank you so much.

Have a great New Year.

Come

out

to the Midwest and hang out.

We'll tour the shipwrecks.

I mean it.

I'm serious.

Love you, buddy.

Okay, buddy.

Love you, too.

That's Paul K. Martin, ladies and gentlemen.

Check out his comedy special.

I was just getting rolling there with the talking con.

All right, we're coming right back.

It's Nightlight with Peach Wabba, act three is

next.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Schwabba.

Great to have you folks this is nightlight a Tuesday edition But it kind of feels like a Friday edition because it's our last live show of the year We will have highlight shows running throughout the rest of the week with some of our favorite moments If you missed the show so far, we've had a lot of fun Conrad are you having fun?

Oh, I'm having

lots of fun.

Just thinking about me, you

know How about all that's such a Wisconsin question like why does he equate that with Wisconsin like I get

I, I got it.

Well, all right.

We got

it everywhere.

We got to go back to Rob, uh, Brackenridge's, the joke that he had, you know, that our fingers look like sausage.

So that's why

Rob will be on the show.

I believe January 12th.

He'll be back soon.

Uh, can't wait to have Rob back on the show.

Always fun to talk to a comics, especially old friends like Paul Gilmartin, who we just had on before the, uh, news.

And, uh, it's funny, like if you had a

Quarter for every story people told you about yourself that you forgot about It would just be fun to shift through the quarters I think but it was great to have Paula and we had Mike Clemens on in hour number two as well If you missed all the fun folks go to civicmedia.us and check out Hours number one and two of tonight's edition of nightlight.

It's been a lot of fun so far and lots more to go I'm gonna welcome another friend of mine in just a minute Jim McHugh will be here

And then Mike Couth from Comedy Sports.

He is a head coach at the Milwaukee Institution.

He will be joining us at 720.

And we will talk to Mike about a really... Actually, this hour, Conrad, is dedicated to fun events on New Year's Eve that will make people laugh.

That is what hour number three here, or act three, as I call it, is all about.

But check out the hours number one and two if you missed it, folks.

It's been a lot of fun.

Uh, Chris Casper or pal in the six oh eight says how is smoked salmon not a meat?

Well Because it's a fish But you know what I've learned not to argue with Chris Casper counter

He

says is meat.

He says anything that has eyes is meat.

I Mean, I I'm fine with that.

I'm that's not a hill I would die on Like go ahead call fish meat.

I don't care.

I don't think typically it is considered me But you know

Casper is a bright guy.

I believe him.

Bridget in the 818 says, tenderloin with a great sauce.

Ooh, great sauce.

I'm intrigued, Bridget.

Like, what do you mean?

Ketchup?

I doubt it.

So there you go our question of the night folks.

Why don't we reintroduce the question of the night Conrad for our last hour of 2025?

Here's the night like question of the night.

Let's

talk

about the question.

Okay question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

What is your favorite kind of meat?

That's right ladies and gentlemen a very vague question have fun with it tonight today actually is national bacon day one of the greatest inventions ever made and I'll even throw turkey bacon on that too.

I like me some turkey bacon once in a while but let us know what your favorite kind of meat is 855-752-4842-855-75 civic you can also text us on the app

Or if you're watching the radio on the stream at Facebook, YouTube, or X, you can drop us a stream comment and we will read that on the radio as well.

Be part of the show, folks.

It's always more fun when you guys participate.

How are we doing, Con?

Am I on top of... What am I missing?

I think you're doing

great.

We're doing great.

I'm crushing it tonight, aren't I?

You should just

tell

me.

I know it

really

hurts you to give me compliments.

I mean, you had a great plug for the civicmedia.us website, so that was great.

That's what I'm here for.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome.

Oh, God, look at that.

Do you see Casper's comment on that?

He says, fish is meat.

LOL.

Are you serious?

And you know what?

It's the insulting kind of, are you serious?

Because he didn't even put a question mark, which means he's making a statement.

I'm going to give you this one.

We just got to agree now.

We just got to agree.

Go to the Google con.

Take a memo.

Go to the Google.

And we'll get back to Casper.

But right now, I'm going to welcome another friend of mine to the show.

He is a very funny comedian who is Chicago based and Conrad, are you ready for this?

He's a serious Packer fan and he books a great room for comedy here in Wisconsin.

So he might be just as conflicted about his residency where he lives as I am with mine, given our dual citizenship or so to speak, something like that.

Comedian Jim McHugh joins me now.

Hey, buddy.

Pete, I got to tell you.

You know, listening to Paul, it was great reminiscing Paul and all the Chicago stories.

By the way, Bill Gorgos says hello.

I want to say goodbye because we got to 2025 getting out of our hair here.

And yes, talking about shipwrecks, the Packer game this past Saturday will go down as a shipwreck.

I want to say this, as you know,

and I'm sure your your sports director know and Conrad's know.

So who is the original owner of the Packers?

The Bears.

No, no, that who owned the Packer team?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It wasn't the city initially, right?

So it was ACME packing.

You remember ACME packing, ACME packing.

And that's exactly what happened on Saturday night.

It was like Wiley Coyote was running all over the place and no, nothing that

Wiley Coyote could do, could stop the Road Runner.

It was like watching the Road Runner just run through and everything that Acme, that Acme had that could throw at the Road Runner, you couldn't stop Derek Henry.

No way, no how.

Jim, first of all, let me just say this.

I appreciate how passionate you are about your team.

You live in Chicago.

You're a huge Packer fan.

I also love that you got the fire going there.

I feel like this is a fireside chat.

It's a lovely end of the year appearance with the background.

I

was just out shoveling 10 minutes ago.

That's brutal.

I know.

Listen, I applaud you.

Do you take a lot of, like, here's the deal.

When I moved from Chicago here in junior high, I took so much abuse from Packer fans.

And I didn't even know the rivalry.

I mean, I knew it was the Packers and my mom at the time was a Packer fan.

I got that it was a rivalry, but not how intense it was until I moved here.

What is your, what have your experience been as a Packer fan in Chicago?

You know, I kind of hold up a whole lot.

So here's the deal.

Obviously I have a lot of friends who are Bear fans and I'm a sports guy.

I still play a bunch of sports.

Wow.

And I get it.

We are all emotionally invested in our team.

So I have plenty of friends who are bear fans.

So I don't throw it in their face.

I don't have to.

The Packers and their record throws it in their face.

I don't have to say anything.

So they're very envious of me and the Packer fans because they want to be where we are.

And I get it.

And I watch the Packers through a different, the Bears through a different prism because I'm watching them as somebody we have to play twice a year.

And I try to figure out if they're going to be good or bad.

And they've done a really good job.

Their biggest decision that they made was hiring Ben Johnson.

Huge, huge ad for them.

And they fixed their offensive line.

And Caleb Williams can sling the ball.

So I mean, they're on the come.

So there's great games to be had.

Obviously, as anybody that's watched the last couple of games, it puts your heart in.

If you don't have AFib,

Or if you have AFib, you can just sit there and just watch a replay of the Bears Packer games over the last three weeks.

And I think you're hard to go right back into rhythm.

It's brutal.

And I'll tell you what, for both sides, because I know Packer fan friends of mine, and I've got tons of them, were saying they thought Williams was going to win that first game.

And then after what happened in the second game, I've never even seen a game like that.

But if you have a prediction for supposedly they're going to meet in the playoffs, most arrows point toward a...

you know, another match up between the Bears and Packers.

How do you think that's going to go?

Okay.

So when the first, you know, when this particular schedule came out and watching the season go, I, when you had two games in three weeks, my initial thought was I knew the Bears have been playing decent football and went in late.

So, you know, sometimes that luck runs out.

It is what it is.

But I said at the beginning, I said the Bears and Packers are going to split this year.

And they did.

Now, I didn't know if the Bears were going to pull one off out of Lambeau and the Bears were going to win one back at home.

But after the Packers won in Lambeau, I kind of figured that the Bears were going to hold court at Soldier Field.

And they did.

So what do I think is going to happen?

I think it's going to be Bears Packers.

The Packers, they just got to get healthy.

And I'm not sure if that's going to happen this year.

That's the problem.

Even next year, as we're right around the corner from New Year's Eve, the Packers, and I've said this for I'm not saying anything that no other coach doesn't say, you've got to be healthy and you've got to be healthy in the playoffs and the Packers are limping in.

I don't think the Bears are ready yet for prime time.

I think the Packers, I think the Packers will beat the Bears, but I don't know if they're going to get past that.

You know, I just think the Bears are just a little bit too beat up.

And, you know, I certainly don't want to see Baltimore anymore.

I mean, it's a very

astute prediction there, Jim.

I'm impressed.

Yeah.

I've been pretty close with my stuff.

You know, somebody said, what's the, you know, I played football only in high school and I had a couple of running backs that ran over me.

And I told my wife, I said, I said, trying to tackle Derek Henry, I said, imagine this, imagine somebody's on the second floor of a building.

And they throw you down a refrigerator and you have to catch it.

That's what trying to tackle Derek Henry is like.

He's a running refrigerator and you have to try to stop it.

Not an easy thing.

And as

our sports reporter earlier said, he's 32.

I didn't realize he was that age and he's still running over people.

It's impressive.

He's an impressive man.

You know, I, you know, living in Chicago, the one thing that I have become, and I think this is

Most of the people that I know from Green Bay and are Green Bay fans.

Green Bay is a shrine to football.

If you haven't been to Lambeau Field, you need to get to Lambeau Field.

It's a great place to see a game.

And here's the thing, the people treat you with respect and they love that you're there watching the game in a neighborhood.

It's in a neighborhood.

It's like Wrigley Field.

Yeah, you drive by and it's like houses and then, oh, wow, there's this football shrine.

Absolutely.

It's amazing.

You don't get that kind of welcoming in Chicago.

I will say that so when you go to the game and if you're wearing a Packer jersey, you're gonna you're gonna hear some insults You're gonna hear some things and then all we do is we just sit there and say oh, yeah was the last time you guys were in a playoffs Oh, okay.

Okay conversations over I think So, you know, I mean, I don't like to throw it back in their face But you know if you're gonna come at me, you know, you see now the Bears are getting good So they're getting a little confident and cocky even though even though

They still have some ways to go.

This is so fun.

Why didn't I have you on earlier to talk about Bears Packers?

This is so great because I had you on to talk about this great New Year's Eve show.

I didn't know you were going to come out here and be like Brent Musburger and talk with all this football knowledge.

This is impressive.

It's consuming.

We are all emotionally consumed with our teams.

It was difficult to watch the other day.

It really was.

The one thing that was great about the other day was watching Malik Willis play.

And when he went down a week ago, my son and I are huge pack of fans.

And my daughter, my wife are.

And I got a limited group.

I said, Malik Willis is great.

I said, he is a great backup quarterback.

And we're not going to miss a beat.

And he's got skills that Jordan Love doesn't have.

And that's unfortunate.

Jordan Love's a great quarterback.

Don't get me wrong.

But he is not a running quarterback.

And that's what Malik Willis is.

And it's a different scheme to try to defend.

So I mean, you saw how well he did on Saturday, even in a losing effort.

If it wasn't for Malik Willis, I mean, it was going to look a lot worse than it did.

This is great.

Okay.

Jim McHugh is here folks.

He is a Chicago based comedian who books memories ballroom and we're going to do a very short break.

We haven't even gotten to the whole reason I had Jim here because we've gotten a bear packer talk, which is fun too.

But we'll come back with Jim.

He's going to tell you all about a great New Year's Eve show in Port Washington.

That's on the other side of the break.

And then we got Mike Kalth folks.

You don't want to miss any of this.

Lots of shows still to come.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

You've got the Civic Media radio network.

We are broadcasting statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay.

I'm actually even further north of there tonight because of the roads, but it is great to have you with me either way.

My guest is Jim McHugh.

He is a Chicago-based stand-up comedian and serious Packer fan as we just heard, but he's really here.

to talk about a great show at Memories Ballroom.

We're going to talk about that.

And then Mike Houth is waiting in the wings too.

We'll have Mike in just a few minutes.

But Jim, books a great venue called Memories Ballroom in Port Washington.

Jim, tell us about the New Year's Eve show tomorrow night.

Yeah, you know, Pete, I've been very blessed to

be able to help run a book, this particular venue, Memories Ballroom in Port Washington, Wisconsin, and been doing it for about the last, I don't know, 15, 17 years, something to that effect.

Having great shows, a lot of great comics, Roland, Roebuck and his staff, Lisa Green, they do a wonderful job.

They do, we only do like six, seven comedy shows a year, so it's not all the time, and they do a great job.

They do a bunch of music, or sorry, dinner theater, and they do a great job, but they're

Food service and everybody has a wonderful job.

We have a great show New Year's Eve.

We've been this will be our third time with the all-star group and I'm a part of and I'm still doing stand up I know you're all and you know it started you know and by the way If you got to check out I'm not sure check out Paul's website.

He does great cutting boards cutting boards I'm not sure if he's still doing those he could ship those anywhere

But those are probably a lot of work.

I believe

he

does.

Yeah, I'm going to check it out after the show.

Paul's very meticulous in everything he did, whether it was stand up or woodworking, I'm sure.

Paul, for a long time, as you as well, and hearing John Regi's name mentioned.

All the guys, it was great.

We have a great show up in Memories tomorrow night, New Year's Eve.

Show starts at 8 o'clock.

It's a dinner show.

Get there around 6 o'clock.

They have dinner and you'll have a wonderful time with that.

On the show, we have Michelle Krajecki, Chicago-based comedian.

Very funny, I've known Michelle for a long time.

Also, Des Mulroney, who I know you just had on last night.

on the show he is a

very

funny great funny kid and certainly know his dad uh tp for many many years when i first started um and to be working with his son it's kind of a makes you scratch your head going what am i doing i still doing this what am i doing this i should be making furniture um all right uh and uh also we have a very funny guy from just south of madison wisconsin david shenlinger is on the show

Uh, I was going to see if we could have David on, but we just wasn't able to get the time worked out.

But David, he just lives south of Madison, a very funny guy.

You'll appreciate this analogy when I tell you who David reminds me of.

He's got a long gray beard.

He kind of looks like David Letterman a little bit.

Um, but he reminds me for Chicago comedians and people that you would know, he's a, he's a kind of cross between, uh, Jim Higgins and Paul Kelly.

Oh wow.

Oh, that's a lot of funny right there.

That's great.

Yeah, very good joke writer and just knows how to deliver a joke.

I mean, you know, we talk about Paul Kelly still with us lives down in North Carolina.

And he's back doing stand up a little bit here and there and he's written all new stuff because Paul said he can't remember his old stuff.

Where can people get tickets, Jim?

Where can they find out information about tomorrow night?

Uh, you go to memories ballroom.com and you can check out their website and buy tickets.

We may be close to the sellout, but check on that.

I know there's a various tickets arrangements, but it's a dinner show package is what you're getting.

Uh, it's a great show.

There's, uh, we have the show starting at the dinner first, the show from eight to 10.

And then we have DJ and dancing for the rest of the evening, bringing in 2026 with a bang and

hopefully some healthier packers.

Jim, we'll have to have you back before the big playoff game because this would be fun to do then when we have a little more time.

But

for now,

knock them dead tomorrow night, buddy.

Break a leg and happy New Year.

This has been really a lot of fun.

Thanks for being on the show.

All right.

So beef tenderloin with a horseradish sauce.

I didn't get the question because I probably was talking too much.

But that's what I'm going with.

Beef tenderloin on the grill.

uh, rare to medium rare with a nice horse ride.

So she can't go wrong.

Excellent choice, my friend.

All

right.

Thank you, Jim.

Have a great night.

Thanks.

All right.

That's Jim McHugh.

Check out memories ballroom.

All right.

So you got Oshkosh lights, Conrad.

You got memories ballroom, some stand up tomorrow night.

And now I think we just got to keep this thing going.

Let's at least get Mike on the show, introduce him, and then we'll come back and find out what's going on in Milwaukee tomorrow night.

We're covering the state, uh, and all of our fun, uh, New Year's Eve.

Events happening here in wisconsin, so it is my pleasure to welcome He is a head coach at comedy sports.

He has been there for decades at this milwaukee institution Such a great campus.

They have their uh mike kouth joins me now as our last guest of 20 25 mike no pressure.

How you doing?

I'm doing pretty good.

I'm doing pretty good beat

Yeah, yourself.

I'm well.

Thank you for your patience.

We're running a few minutes behind, but I'm thrilled that you're on the show and that you're our last guest of the year, so to speak.

It's good to see you.

And before we get started,

yeah,

I have to ask you, do you have a favorite meat?

It is National Bacon Day.

You know, I will say it took me a while to come around on bacon.

Growing up, I always felt that sausage, you know, like breakfast sausage, you got the raw deal.

I just felt like bacon everyone was talking about bacon and I was a sausage guy Just felt come on, you know I Typically and it's maybe cliche you tell me I tend to go for the t-bone Stay

okay.

Oh nice.

Yeah, you could do a lot worse.

Let me just say for the record, too

I don't think I've ever said this to another grown man, but that is adorable.

You're a little diatribe there on bacon and breakfast sausage.

I love that you're defending your favorite breakfast meat.

It's outstanding.

Con, how we doing on time?

About a minute.

Okay, Mike, here's what we're gonna do.

We're gonna

do the news and we're gonna come back and I want to

jump in

first of all Dick Chudnow was on the show loved it Thank you for connecting me with dick.

He was another legend in Milwaukee there So in addition to yourself, but that was a lot of fun So let's come back after the news and talk about what it's happening at comedy sports because tomorrow night if you're in Milwaukee, that's a must-see, right?

Yes, it's gonna be a great time

We'll have details to follow.

The news is coming up next, and then we will be back with our last guest of 2025.

And I couldn't imagine having a nicer guy take us into 2026.

Mr. Mike Kalth, we are coming right back.

This is Night Late with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

And we are headed towards a new year, folks, and that is going to be really fun.

All kinds of hope is right around the corner.

I did Google fish as meat, and Chris Casper is right, but I always went by the Catholic Church thing that did not recognize fish as meat.

So, Chris, you are my new...

Lord and Savior, and I bow to you, my friend.

Joe from 414 says, 414 says, carne asada in tacos is his favorite meat.

That's fantastic stuff.

Hey, we've got Mike Kouth here, folks.

He is a comedy sports head coach.

He has been part of that organization for decades, and this great Milwaukee institution.

Mike, as always, it is great to have you here, pal.

How you doing tonight?

All doing good.

Doing good.

I'm one of Milwaukee's favorite meats.

Hey, tell us what is going on tomorrow at Comedy Sports.

You got a great New Year's Eve show going on.

Yeah, we do.

So we have two shows, but I will say our early bird show is basically sold out.

So put all your focus if you're looking for something to do on the 1030 match.

So at 1030, that goes right up to midnight.

And what's fun about it

It's all the fun that you have in a comedy sports show competitive two teams in different improv games But we go big where it's unlimited champagne unlimited soda.

We've got a big buffet for everybody.

Oh Yeah, so we just kind of do up a nice big party for everyone

and what better way I mean seriously to laugh and bringing in the new year I remember when I was a comedian in the 90s and it's not even like

Standup isn't as much fun.

I don't think because it's you in another comic ringing in the New Year's and watching everybody else hug and kiss and you're like shaking hands with this guy you barely know but in improv you that's a whole community you've got going there at comedy sports and What a great way to ring in the new year.

Yeah, I agree with you and that's I've been lucky because the last You know a couple of decades, you know people put so much pressure right on where you're gonna be on New Year's.

What are you gonna do?

right and what better than you know like

Like you're saying, like a show, like go, just laugh, have fun.

And for me, I have the extra, you know, benefit of being around friends and just like putting on a show, making people laugh and then party afterwards.

So

it's nice.

So I say that I'm probably going to go to bed right afterwards.

So what what kind of crowd do you typically get Mike?

Is it couples is you know comedy sports a lot of it is family-friendly Do you get families on New Year's Eve sometimes?

We do that's why I think the early show sold out so quickly Because it is you know, it's like that one starts at eight

and has like kind of a fake countdown, you know, at the end.

So you get to celebrate, but then you're, you know, if you want, you're in bed by 11 kind of a thing.

But you can come out with the kids.

Surprisingly, that 10, 30 show, like, because all county sports shows are all ages, you can bring anybody.

So there's definitely a mixture like teenagers, usually, usually no one under 10 at the 1030, you know, match, but

It's happened before if you know a nine-year-old thinks they can stay up till midnight Yeah, they're they're welcome to it and you know all the soda they can drink so they've

got there you go Thank you mountain dudes that'll keep you swinging from the rafters at midnight You just mentioned your family friendly for the most part comedy sports Mike, I know you weren't there maybe at its inception, but like was that risky at the time?

Like you've got all these, you know, Saturday Night Live could be edgy, Second City, a lot of these improv outfits, they're kind of edgy and they do swear.

Was it risky at all?

And maybe you don't know this because you weren't there right at the beginning, but was that a chance or it seems like you could backfire a little bit, but it hasn't.

Yeah, I think like for the time it was something a little bit different.

And I know that Dick Chudnow had seen

Improv shows and Bob Orvis the two of them who started comics where they had seen improv shows and you know Sometimes if something's not working you can go dirty, right?

You can kind

of

pull out a curse word go dirty Get a laugh And I think for them they were like well, let's challenge ourselves so like

you know, they always had that idea like you could be anybody from any background and we'll still make you laugh.

So it is a nice added challenge.

I think like it was a novel idea.

But at the same time, that's just one of the like kind of like, okay, we all agree, we're not going to go there.

But as far as like the comedy, I think it still works, you know, it doesn't

ever feel

watered down, doesn't ever feel like, you know, we're, you know, pulling punches a little bit.

It's like,

The comedy's still out there.

It's still, you know, pushing it.

It's just not doing it with certain four letter words or Pulling forward certain imagery

And I know a lot of like the

Alumni that you guys have put through you know Tom Clark Eric Price and those guys have horrible potty mouse off stage So the fact that they could come in and do a clean show is really impressive.

That's what you guys have taught them.

So My guest is my couch as a head coach at comedy sports in Milwaukee It is an absolute institution if you have not checked out a show at comedy sports do yourself a favor and even if it's not tomorrow night on New Year's Eve

although based on what Mike said, it sounds like a blast, but get over and check out Comedy Sports.

Mike, we talked about Dick Chudnow and he was so much fun to have on the show.

Oh, great.

Was he, how active was he when you started at Comedy Sports?

He wasn't as active when I started.

I started really playing in 2001.

And by that time, like he was definitely around.

I remember one of the first kind of corporate shows, private shows that I did was just him and I as a two-person.

Oh, wow.

Was that

pressure?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And for me, I'm still so new.

I'm just like, oh, this will be fun.

And now that I've done it a while, I'm like, oh, boy, there is a lot riding on Dick's shoulders to make, you know,

running the

show, explaining all the games.

And here he's got a rookie.

you know just smiling they're happy to be there so yeah and what's great with with dick is he will still come to our company practices every so often because

you

know he'll get up there on our field and play around he just doesn't do as many he really doesn't do any public matches but

I was lucky enough, I do a show that I produced called Hooplop, which is like a storytelling and improv show.

And we were lucky enough to get him to come out and tell some stories for us to improvise off of.

And that was really fun.

So he's still willing.

You just got to kind of

convince him.

It was so funny, because I don't know if I told you this, but when I had David Zucker on, I said to him, I said, it's amazing that you and your brother and Jim Abraham's

all grew up in shorewood went to shorewood high school then uw madison and then started kentucky friday theater you all stayed together through all this then moved to la and had success and he goes and don't forget about dick chud now well i didn't even know that and i said oh that's incredible he goes yeah he stayed behind in milwaukee but when dick was on i think i asked him i said how did you end up back in milwaukee he said i was in a bad marriage or something like that but he was very honest but he also i mean

He's done pretty well for himself.

So good for him.

Oh, yeah.

I think, you know, he's one of those people who you wish would write a book,

right?

Just to know all the stories.

Cause like, I didn't realize he was out in Los Angeles for as long as he was,

you

know, and even I think he said he was a teacher out there for a little while, like a public school teacher and

just

living all these crazy, you know, all these lives and in one lifetime.

And it's absolutely remarkable that he was part in all four of those guys had such success.

And that Dick was able to do it back in his hometown is really impressive as well, almost more so.

What else is coming up at Comedy Sports Mic?

Are you guys going on the road anytime soon?

Do you have other events coming up there in Milwaukee?

Yeah, we have this is kind of our busy season.

So we do a lot of, you know, private shows and corporate gigs that happen.

Like you said, like the regular, uh, comedy sports matches every Friday and Saturday, 730 and 10 o'clock.

Um, and, you know,

The nice thing is we have two theaters.

So our main theater is always the comedy sports matches.

But we'll do some stuff in our other theater.

And that's where I'm lucky enough where I get to produce some of my own comedy.

And January 9th, I have a show coming up.

I think I told you the title of it.

I don't think I can say it.

He

didn't tell what it is.

We can hint on this show.

I drop hints all the time.

Oh, yeah, it's it's your sh.

T. Right.

Week.

is what it is.

I was like, I just, in my head, I was

like,

did I go too far?

I paused.

But you're fine.

And that's, that's not quite as family friendly, but still,

still, you know, yeah, it's not, and it's not a comedy sports match.

It just happens to take place on one of their stages there.

But it's filled with a lot of the great comedy sports improvisers.

And that's something that

You know, we talked to the audience about the crummy week that they've had, things that stressed them out, bugged them.

And then we do improv based off of that.

So we let the audience kind of just that cathartic release of the stuff that irritated them.

And then we try and make it comedy or we do make it comedy in hopes that that kind of exercises the demon of the bad week.

So that's

always a fun show.

So what like you've heard every you just mentioned you were there since 2001.

Have you ever gotten a suggestion?

I know some nights you feel on and some nights you don't but have you ever been stumped where it's like man I got nothing like this suggestion was terrible.

I'm not coming up with anything What do you do during those moments?

during those

moments like you can kind of The nice thing about improv is you can kind of pull from a variety of different things of like if you get a suggestion

How do you feel about it?

How do you react emotionally?

You know, like, even if you have nothing, or does it connect to something that reminds you of a situation or something you run into?

The tougher thing is like, we'll play, Comedy Sports has a game that's 185.

It's a standard pun based game.

So 185 blank, walk into a bar, bartender says, sorry, we're closed.

185 blank, reply with a punny punchline.

Now.

sometimes people yell out stuff that you just have no, you know, wordplay, no joke or anything like that.

There's like little ways you can kind of get out of that.

That's where you just kind of try and rely on your hopeful charm or just kind of like chop to like kick in.

But there's been times like, what was it?

There was something like someone we had asked for

you know, who, who's from the furthest away from Wisconsin.

And it was like, uh, uh, Germany.

I was like, okay, well, what do you find a lot in Germany that you don't necessarily find in Wisconsin?

And they're like Germans.

I was like, oh, okay.

I tread lightly here with my jokes.

Oh, that's great.

So, okay.

So you've been there 23, 24 years.

And I remember the night I met you there, it was, I was like, what a great space just to hang out in.

What has kept you there so long?

Your love of improv or the community that's been built there, a little bit of both, what keeps you there?

Yeah, I think you nailed it.

It's the freedom to be as creative as I want to be, you know?

But it's also that element of the community.

Like not only are the people that I've known for like decades,

you know, some of them still there is there's new people coming in and exploring and discovering improv and then that gets you excited.

So it's just like this constantly like regenerating community of excitement.

That's awesome.

All right.

Mike Houth is here.

We'll keep Mike for a couple more minutes.

We're going to do a very short break.

We'll come back and tell you once again where you should go tomorrow night on New Year's Eve.

It's Peach Waba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

We're in the home stretch here, folks.

This is our last live show of 2025.

As I mentioned, we will have highlight shows throughout the rest of the week.

So please still join us here.

We put together some great moments from over the year and from over the last few weeks.

Right now we have a few more minutes with our current guest and last guest of 2025.

Mike, that's going on your resume, right?

Mike Kout is here, folks, from Comedy Sports.

Yeah.

Thank you for having me.

That is quite an honor.

And

I

will say

Thank you so much for having me on as often as you do.

It's always great to be in here.

You're

fantastic to talk to Pete.

Conrad always does an amazing job too, working so hard and making sure everything is lined up.

You guys do a fantastic show.

Thank you, sir.

If you're ever up this way, Mike, in Northeast Wisconsin and you've got a couple guys with you, you're doing a traveling thing or a couple girls or whatever, come into the studio.

We'll do some improv in the studio.

I would love it and I'll

Stay out of your way, I promise.

No, no, no.

It's funny because, like, yeah, I'd love to have you come down and do the hoopla show I was talking about.

Oh, man.

And that would be so much fun.

We got to figure that out

for sure.

We'll definitely talk.

Yeah, that would be a blast.

All right, so tell us one more time.

The New Year's Eve at Comedy Sports, where can people get information and just a brief thumbnail before we let you go?

Yeah, go to CSZMKE.com and click on events and tickets and the show.

You can start checking in at 8.30 p.m.

for that 10.30 show where you get buffet, champagne, soda, all those goodies.

So yeah, that's where to do it.

That's where to get your tickets online.

Join us.

It'll be fun.

I love it.

Mike, are you watching anything you could recommend?

Binge watching, a movie you just saw.

You know

some of your viewers may have heard of a British show Taskmaster Yeah, yeah, I just I keep going back to that right now And

I'm

just loving so it's all up for free on YouTube check out Taskmaster.

They just had a champion of champions special Anything you'd recommend Pete anything I should check out well

You know, I, speaking of Taskmaster, Task, I liked on HBO was very good at a cop show.

And I would steer clear and I'm going to get some pushback on this mic at some point, but Pluribus on Apple TV, not a fan.

Like the first episode was great.

And then it was just a snooze for like eight episodes.

So I heard the someone joke that Vince Gilligan is very good at taking 15 minutes of plot and stretching it.

Over a whole season.

Yeah And

I'm not kidding like he did that it better call Saul or breaking bad to open a show There'd be this kind of you know cool sequence where you just kind of go with it It breathes a little bit and then that this whole season has been like that.

It's like

But it's already been renewed.

So what do I know?

What am

I doing wrong Mike?

I'm just talking to my pals Mike and Paul and Jim and all these guys and Hopefully we're a lot more exciting than the floor of us, but This was fun, buddy.

Thank you.

Happy new year.

Have a great show tomorrow break a leg and We will talk soon after the new year.

I'm sure

yeah, happy new year to you my best to you and your family Thanks

for always

being so great to me Pete.

Appreciate

always Mike back at you bud.

All right

All right, that's Mike Kowth.

Check out, folks, I'm telling you, if you, and I know I'm saying this, but like people in Milwaukee, I know there are tons of them that have never been to comedy sports, even though they are this great institution there.

So, check out Comedy Sports, especially on New Year's Eve.

Conn, did you ever go to Comedy Sports when you were... No, I didn't.

I

didn't know it was a, you know, I didn't really look, I guess, but I didn't, I didn't know it was a thing when I was living down there.

Now, I'm itching to go to a show.

Yeah, it's it's really it's just a great experience.

We went Probably less than a year ago, and I just loved it.

It's great improv is so much fun Especially when it's being done by people who are really good at it like everybody comedy sports All right, so we've got a couple texts here to close out Steve from Florida says favorite meat is good tenderloin and medium rare What did you say kind you say medium rare?

You said no, he's the well done.

Yeah, I like it rubber

So you and your dad cannot stand over the same grill.

No, I like medium, not medium or medium.

All right, fair enough.

I'm probably inclined to go more with you, but you know, I respect Steve's opinion, and he's still in Wisconsin.

So welcome, Steve, and enjoy your stay.

Steady Eddie from the 608 says, Pete, you and Conrad are crushing it tonight.

Well, thank you, Steady Eddie.

He says, you saved your best for the last broadcast of the year.

I asked my phone about whether fish is meat.

It said, yes, fish is considered meat.

as it is the flesh of an animal that is consumed.

When I was a good Catholic boy, I enjoyed Friday night fish fries.

Catholics were forbidden from eating meat on Fridays under the penalty of going to hell.

Fish seemed like a meat to me, but the deep fried cod was so good, I wasn't gonna question the Pope on this one.

These days, pardon me, these days often I eat meat on Fridays.

He says, parenthetically, I'm a reformed Catholic.

A steak cooked just right and a baked potato with butter and sour cream is heavenly, but sometimes I will eat fish on Fridays just for the halibut.

You ever heard that joke, Conran?

Just for the halibut?

Yeah, I get it.

Yeah, the halibut.

Steady Eddie just heaped compliments on us and we're making fun of his joke.

Steady Eddie says, Happy New Year.

Back at you, buddy.

Love your texts and always fun to get a steady Eddie text.

I hope you have a great holiday this weekend.

I hope everybody

Has a great New Year's be safe.

Don't drink and drive stay at home and party watch Netflix go to comedy sports Stranger things drops tomorrow night to the finale of the whole of the whole series So you've got that to look forward to as well or the Chevy Chase documentary I know you're looking forward to that and you're not I'm very much looking forward to it Complicated legacy that man has left us although he hasn't left yet, so but I would like to thank all my guests

who have helped us scoot into the new year.

Mike Clemens was here.

Always fun to talk to Mike.

Rick Helms from Oshkosh, the Oshkosh Festival of Lights.

My pal, Paul Gilmartin.

My other pal, Jim McHugh.

And my new pal, Mike Houth.

It has been a fun show.

Conrad, be careful tomorrow night.

I'll try.

I expect to see you in that seat Monday.

Maybe.

All right, try to stop by if you can.

Okay, this is Peach Waba on behalf of the lovable producer, Conrad.

Not only good night, Wisconsin, but happy New Year, Wisconsin.

Be safe, everybody, and have a great weekend.

Good night,

Wisconsin.

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