A Festive Mix: Music, Movies, and Mischief(Hour 1)

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A Festive Mix: Music, Movies, and Mischief(Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Dec 23, 2025

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Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chihuahua.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Chihuahua.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Welcome to Night Light.

Happy Tuesday, everybody.

It's a Tuesday that feels like... I don't know, probably like a Thursday?

Because tomorrow feels like a Friday?

I don't know.

But it is the eve of Christmas Eve.

A very fun night here at Nightlight.

Very excited about Christmas a couple days away.

This is our last live show of the week.

And for the next three nights, you will be graced with the outstanding voice of Lou Ragani and Christmas music.

But before we take a short break here, we are going to hopefully do this thing upright tonight.

Conrad Krieger is working the board.

Hey, buddy.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Happy Christmas Eve Eve.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Where did you find that?

That's Phoebe.

That's Phoebe.

Happy Christmas Eve Eve.

So she.

I love the effort you probably put in having trying to find that.

Actually, I just typed in Happy Christmas Eve and it came up.

Well, it is a happy night here in Wisconsin as we broadcast across the state.

The state of Christmas, even though as we reported last week, Wisconsin is not very high up on the list, which I find.

In fact, not just Wisconsin, like the Midwest, I'll say, reminds me of Christmas.

Like even if I thought Michigan, the U.P., Minnesota, very Christmasy, Vermont even.

But all those.

Warm Weather City's got higher marks than us, and I just find that ridiculous.

Anyway, we have a great show tonight, folks.

It is good that you are here, a fun question, all kinds of fun tidbits of information to discuss, and we're going to do it all over the course of the next three hours.

We've got music in the studio tonight.

The whole show is bookended by outstanding music.

Kicking things off at 535, 7,000 apart will be here.

One of our favorite live acts that dropped by the studio from time to time.

Amelie and John will be here to tell their story and sing their tunes.

And then to close the show at 720, Steve March Torme will be here.

Just an all-around incredible musician.

He started his career as more of a pop rocker and now he's more jazz He leads the band steam a 13-piece arrangement But Steve will be here in the studio and he's gonna sing his famous father's a song his famous father a Song his famous father made famous by his father Nice

There's too much alliteration in there.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Did you talk to anyone today?

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Not really.

You know what, I did actually, because both the kids are home and I kind of boss them around all day.

So I told them what to do.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

You don't have to do chores anymore?

Pete Chihuahua (host)

No, it was like barking orders, though.

It wasn't me trying to be entertaining.

So anyway, Steve Marchetourmay will be here.

He is going to sing for us.

Acapella in the studio con.

We discussed this earlier and very excited to have Steve in the show.

He's in Appleton.

Get this.

He was born in Manhattan, raised in Beverly Hills, makes his home in Appleton, Wisconsin.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

I mean, that's like, you know, the big Apple, because

Pete Chihuahua (host)

it has the mini

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Apple.

It has the Apple in its name, so.

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He was just destined to be part of some type of Apple dwelling in an Apple related community.

So Steve will be here at 720.

And then my pal Ben Riser drops by at 635 to discuss movies.

I'm very excited because Ben has seen Train Dreams, so I'm excited to discuss that with Ben.

He's also been watching Pluribus.

Now, Ben will surprise you.

He has takes on movies, and the reason I like to have him on is because he's a bit unpredictable.

I have been vocal about not being a huge fan of Pluribus.

Even though I like the executive producer, I like the lead actor, but I just, I'm just not a fan.

So hopefully Ben will like it and we can, we can lock horns.

And then at six, what would you say, Conn?

622, we've got Ellen Burling.

Yes.

Lake Geneva Cruises, who will discuss a Santa Cruz that you can still get in on.

A beautiful cruise on Lake Geneva that takes you around to some of the mansions all lit up and there are Santa sightings.

on the Santa Cruz, which is exciting too.

It's a fun family event.

We'll discuss that early in hour number two.

And yeah, go ahead.

You're going to

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take a Christmas movie quiz.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

I'm going to take a Christmas movie.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

And I didn't use any chat GPT for it.

OK.

Did I say it right

Pete Chihuahua (host)

again?

Did you say chat GPT?

Because the first time you said it, you say it like my wife.

And she says chat GPT just because it's easier to say it that

Conrad Krieger (producer)

way.

But I made it.

I made this quiz.

Yeah.

It's about, you know,

Five to thirty seconds differs from the movie, but I think I could stump Schwab on

Pete Chihuahua (host)

this one.

I'm excited.

You know, I Realize over the last couple weeks.

I haven't it's not like I've seen every Christmas movie.

I mean I get lazy, too I have my go-tos now the last couple nights I have watched Sunday night my son picked the movie he wanted to take a trip down memory lane, so we watched the polar express And I have to be honest First part of the movie like when they get on the train at first.

It's kind of cool

Then the hot chocolate song is fun.

And then the ticket takes this weird journey.

And I'm like, talk about filler.

Like just get because when they get to the North Pole, it's fantastic.

You know, Santa Claus is great.

There's this great North Pole village.

Love that.

But and then last night, my daughter and I watched the Santa Claus.

So you're a fan of that,

Conrad Krieger (producer)

right?

Yeah, I like the Santa Claus.

And you know, with Polar Express, when I was younger, that version of Santa in that one scared me for some reason.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

It's scary that Tom Hanks does all the voices.

I don't think they needed

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to

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do that.

It's like, we know you're talented, pal.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Well, they only had to pay one salary, and they said, all right, let's move on.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

I'm sure he milked it in his negotiations.

I don't know that for a fact.

But it's fun.

I wouldn't say it's an absolute classic, but it's got its moments.

So I don't know we're gonna watch one tonight too, and it's up to me to pick it out So if you

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have a

Pete Chihuahua (host)

if you have a recommendation Like I said there there are Christmas movies I haven't seen so if those of you listening as you all know you can always contribute to any part of the show Phone lines are always open chat line is always open.

Yeah chat line text line is always open

So let me know what you think I should watch tonight.

I would love to get one more Christmas movie in here before Christmas Eve.

So without further ado though, I think we ought to get to the night light question of the night.

Montage Voice

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

What is your favorite pre-Christmas activity?

Like in the buildup to Christmas.

That's the funnest part.

Making cookies, decorating the tree, maybe shopping.

If you don't mind braving the stores or going to Amazon or the mom and papa websites ideally.

What is your favorite pre-Christmas activity?

Maybe it's picking somebody up at the airport.

That's fun.

People coming home for the holidays.

I can't even remember what I put I know mine is I do like putting up the tree I will say But why don't you go first cotton you grace us with your your answer?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Well, all right, so I did on social media.

I did say Getting a nice cup of Joe and watching.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Oh, I did see

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that sometime, you know Christmas movie a Christmas show

Pete Chihuahua (host)

or

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something but I think Adding to this now because I've only done it for the you know past like I don't know four years ever since I've been able to make my own money

I've been getting, you know, getting gifts for people and it's fun getting gifts and like, oh, will they like this?

Will they not?

But,

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you

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know, I

Pete Chihuahua (host)

usually

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always like it no matter, but.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Getting gifts.

That's a good one.

Just getting some coffee or like a hot chocolate.

I used to love when I lived in more of a big city, like being in coffee shops around Christmas holidays.

They're decorated, they've got.

They typically have cooler Christmas music on like jazzy or stuff or something you haven't heard yet But my answer was getting the tree up watching Christmas movies and listening to Christmas music to the point where I have to say about three days before Christmas I have to stop listening to Christmas music because I'm officially sick of every single song But I like all of it really It's all fun to me

But I am getting a little tired of Christmas music.

But let us know what you think, folks.

855-752-4842.

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Or if you're watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook, or X, let us know what is your favorite pre-Christmas activity.

And if you're on any one of these platforms, would love it if you could throw us a like or a follow.

Always fun to get those.

Nick Wallander, our pal from Comedy City in Depeere says, sitting in my car, preparing for all those arguments.

Mike Desintel says, Thanksgiving.

Comedian Vince Morano says, setting the standards and expectations too high.

That's another big one.

Funny man from Appleton, Mr. John Egan says, siblings gifts exchange on Christmas Eve.

That's a fun one too.

Chris, I totally agree with John on that.

That's a great one when you exchange gifts.

And ideally, we've always done it.

When do you guys exchange gifts,

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Con?

I mean, it's different every year, actually, for me.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Is it?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, well, your folks live pretty far away, so that's a...

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Well, actually, for this year, we did it at Thanksgiving, because that's when we saw it.

Okay.

That's fun too.

But, you know, with my brother, my sister-in-law, we do it different times.

We

Pete Chihuahua (host)

ended up, we used to, in my family, we used to pack everything and we'd go to four o'clock mass on Christmas Eve.

Then we come home, we eat.

You're done with that by like eight o'clock by the time you get done with so many people.

Then Santa Claus would come by the house.

So that's nine.

Then we start our gift exchange, which takes like three hours.

That's midnight.

And then you're kind of amped up.

maybe you throw in a Christmas movie.

So typically in our house, oftentimes we wouldn't get to bed on Christmas, even till like two o'clock in the morning.

And I'm talking about like as an adult.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Yeah.

When, when you were, uh, you know, when your kids were younger, you probably had to wake up pretty early to

Pete Chihuahua (host)

go to- Absolutely.

It was typically at like a four or five hour sleep night on your crabby all Christmas day, which is fun.

Uh, Amanda Nimmer says, staring at a blank wall, trying not to fall into the abyss.

Wow.

Very heartwarming answer there.

WGBW's Amanda Never Love It and Comedy City's Eric Alarsson says the airing of grievances and feats of strength.

Okay, and Trig Rood from Oakwood Beach in Marinette says burning of the brush pile.

What is that?

That's like a Festivus thing or something.

Those are our social media answers to our question of the night, but fire away folks and I will read your text on the radio.

You know, I want to do news and weather and sports folks are coming up in I love that.

I was a Tony Zimmerman that posted the The like tic-tac-y type clip of Mike Clemens on Yeah, that was really cool.

Yeah,

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thank

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you shout out to Tony.

I love that So we got a lot going on here.

We've got like I said news sports and weather coming up in just a few minutes I found a really cool thing

I want to read from Bill Murray also when we come back.

It's just kind of an outlook on life type thing.

But I'm going to share this first.

This was kind of weird.

I was in a hurry getting out of the house tonight.

And in fact, I was in such a hurry.

If I didn't have in studio guests, I probably would not have brushed my teeth.

That's how close I was cutting.

I got

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here like 20 to

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six.

So, but I grabbed my toothbrush.

In honor of 7,000 Apart, John and Amal, your hair, I don't want them to smell bad breath, Scott.

Steve March Torme, he doesn't know me.

I don't want it.

You never get a second chance to make a first impression.

So I grab my toothbrush and there's a couple hairs on it.

Kind of BS is that.

So I pull a long hair off and then there's a shorter hair and I'm trying to pull that and I couldn't and I said screw it and I brush my teeth with a hair on my toothbrush.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

You could have taken.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

It's because I love my guests so much.

And I respect them.

I want them to smell minty fresh breath.

And here's how I rationalized it.

It's probably my hair.

That's my drawer.

It's like some guys coming over.

It's like finding a hair in an omelet, you know what I mean?

There's

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someone you know that doesn't like you snuck into your house.

Pete Chihuahua (host)

Well, they could do a lot worse things than pulling a hair out and putting it in my toiletry drawer,

Conrad Krieger (producer)

right?

But where did the hair come from?

Pete Chihuahua (host)

It was long enough that I was in a safe zone, I think.

It was not below the equator.

But I surprised myself, because typically I would massage that hair out of the bristles.

But I didn't tonight, and I hope my guest thanked me for it.

Also, this is a weird way to start the day.

The guy in front of me hits a squirrel.

You ever see a squirrel in its last throes of life flipping around in the...

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Are

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you gonna vomit?

This is sad.

Alright, Conrad's gonna vomit.

We're gonna get some of that dust they used to spray over it in grade school, and we'll be right back with more Night Light with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwabba (host)

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, and it is great to have you here tonight, folks.

Our last live show of the week.

We've got news, sports, and weather coming up at the bottom of the hour, so hang in there for that.

Civic Media's news team will not let you down.

I saw this.

I'm gonna read this.

Rarely do I just read something, but I saw this from a Facebook account called Historic Imprints.

So bear with me.

This is a great story about Bill Murray.

You know, he has that reputation of kind of appearing places and goofing off and just kind of messing with people.

Yeah.

So that's what this is in reference to.

The night Bill Murray showed up at a stranger's house.

House Party did the dishes and disappeared into legend.

It's become the most Bill Murray thing ever.

Dozens of verified stories of him crashing bachelor parties, tending bar at random events, stealing french fries off strangers' plates, and whispering, no one will ever believe you before vanishing into the night.

But one story captures his essence perfectly.

love this.

A group of college students in Scotland was throwing a house party when Bill Murray, who was in town for a film festival, simply walked in off the street.

No security, no entourage, just Bill.

He didn't announce himself.

He just grabbed a bottle of vodka, started mixing drinks, chatted with confused students who couldn't believe their eyes, and then here's the part that makes it so perfectly Bill Murray.

He walked into the kitchen and started doing their dishes.

Not as a joke, not for a photo op, he just saw dirty dishes and decided someone should handle them.

When students asked what he was doing there, he shrugged.

I was walking by, heard music, thought I'd join you.

Then he took a group photo, offered some life advice about not worrying so much and left as mysteriously as he'd arrived.

The photo went viral, the story became legend, and it joined dozens of other verified Bill Murray sightings that have turned him into something between a movie star and an urban myth.

There's the time he crashed a karaoke party and sang Elvis, the time he photobombed an engagement shoot, the time he gave relationship advice to a heartbroken man at a bar, the time he joined a random kickball game in Brooklyn.

Each story follows the same pattern.

Murray appears, does something wonderfully ordinary in an extraordinary way, refuses to let it become a big deal, and leaves people with a memory they'll tell for the rest of their lives.

The more relaxed you are, this is the part of this I love the most.

The more relaxed you are, the better you are at everything.

He once said, the better you are with your loved ones, the better you are with your enemies, the better you are at your job, the better you are with yourself.

Bill Murray doesn't crash parties because he's famous.

He crashes them because life is a party.

And the best moments happen when you stop taking yourself so seriously and just show up.

Somewhere tonight in closing, Bill Murray is probably doing someone's dishes and they have no idea.

How lucky they are.

That quote is great.

The more relaxed you are, the better you are at everything.

The better you are with your loved ones, the better you are with your enemies, the better you are at your job, the better you are with yourself.

Worrying really does nothing.

I think that's the message, but it's just great stuff.

Love that story.

And I love the Bill Murray sightings.

There was a great one too where Tom Hanks, I probably have said this one on the show, I just love this.

not taking himself too seriously shows up at like a burger joint at two in the morning after bar time and there's some dude asleep on the table and his phone is there and I guess this is before you could lock your phone or whatever Tom Hanks picks up the guy's phone puts his face next to the guy's face and takes a selfie puts the phone down so when the guy sees the selfie a day or two later with Tom Hanks in the picture he'll realize he could have met Tom Hanks if he wasn't passed out on his own face in a booth

at 3 a.m.

Great stuff.

I saw this too, Conrad.

Today is Festivus.

Were you aware of this?

Yeah.

Okay.

So Savannah Tomei Olson, our WMDX, I believe, news director.

She and Shaly worked down there, but Savannah did this great piece for a TV outfit that she also takes part in about Festivus.

Do we have time to play that?

Conrad (co-host/producer)

I don't know.

I have to find a clue.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, okay.

Well, pull that.

We'll play it later in the show.

I sent that to you earlier, and she, it's just a great piece, because today, Festivus was, I don't think it's, it may or may not have started on Seinfeld, but George's dad, played by Jerry Stiller, celebrated Festivus, a non-commercial way to celebrate the holidays, and it was, he just had an aluminum pole.

That was the,

the paraphernalia involved in Festivus.

So there's a company in Wisconsin that makes these polls.

And if we don't have time to play it now, that's fine.

ConPullet will play it maybe in the third hour or something when we get time.

I'll read some texts here.

Our question of the night, again, is, what is your favorite pre-Christmas or holiday activity?

Regardless of what you celebrate, Hanukkah, Christmas, Festivus, Kwanzaa, whatever,

What do you do?

What's your favorite part of the build-up?

That's our question tonight Mark from Sun Prairie says I watched a version of a Christmas Carol with mr. Magoo as Scrooge remembered watching it as a child I Think he's given me a movie recommendation for later I don't know if I'm gonna go Christmas Carol, you know, I haven't seen it in years.

Maybe that would be I mean,

Conrad (co-host/producer)

there's so many different versions.

You could just try to pick your poison with that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's true

Thank you, Mark.

Jim from Appleton says, putting up the lights and decorations, including the tree, a very fun, filled family time.

I agree, Jim.

That's when we put our tree up.

We typically put it up the weekend of Thanksgiving, like on that Saturday when people are home, so we can get some help with that and make it more of a family event.

Good times.

Brett from Brown Deer says, I did my favorite pre-Christmas activity today.

Drove down to the dispensary and bought the good stuff.

Well done, Brett.

It says Brett is from Brown Deer, but his area code is 920, so I'm guessing he drove up the Menominee?

Maybe?

There's no dispensary in Wisconsin, right?

There can't be.

Uh, I don't think they're under dispensary.

Maybe he's got a guy.

Not gonna judge Brett.

Monica from Mount Horrib says, I like making, uh, help me with this word again, Con.

Peff-pefferness cookies?

Conrad (co-host/producer)

I don't know either.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Let's just...

She likes making cookies with German spice cookie.

Monica says every year and looking at Christmas lights.

Saturday night, I drove through the holiday fantasy lights in Olin Park in Madison, but just driving around neighborhoods is nice too.

That is a great one, Monica.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

855-752-4842.

And we'll read them.

What's your favorite activity in the buildup to Christmas or the holidays or Hanukkah or Festivus?

Let us know.

News, sports and weather is next, and then we've got 7,000 apart in the studio, ladies and gentlemen.

We're getting there.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

This is Nightlight, folks.

It is the Tuesday before Christmas.

There is no better Tuesday you will find, because it feels kind of like a... This kind of feels like a holiday.

It's our last live show of the week, and then you will have Christmas music, and Lou Ragani's voice for two and a half days, which will be an absolute blast, and we will be back live next Monday night.

It is my pleasure, though, to welcome now.

We can't waste any time, because I don't have you guys, but you got a pizza waiting for you.

We do, we ordered some pizza, yes.

And if I were you, I'd be really upset if I just drank this.

It's so angry.

I'm incredibly angry right now.

You're angry, probably.

Those are the voices of 7,000 apart.

John and Amelie join me here in the studio as they do from time to time a great music duo that met here in Green Bay.

Let's just, if there are people that don't know your story, give us a quick thumbnail.

Let's do it, let's do it.

It's such a great story.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

So hello, my name is Amelie.

I'm originally from Stockholm, Sweden.

I came here as an exchange student and that I

at Preble High School, where I met John.

John from 7,000 Apart

Yeah, so we met in music theory class, my senior year of high school, became friends or music mostly, and then we became more than friends, dated that school year, and then we decided to keep dating when we were in a long distance relationship.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

How far apart were you guys?

We were, you can guess.

John from 7,000 Apart

7,000 kilometers apart, which

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

is like 4,000 something, something, something miles.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Yup, yeah.

It was a serious long distance

John from 7,000 Apart

relationship, yeah.

Yeah, so we did that for three years, got married in Sweden, moved here, lived here for six years in Green Bay, became full-time with music, and then we just moved to Sweden three years ago, and that's the very short version.

Wow, you're

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bi-continental.

Yes.

I don't meet many people like you.

I've met some, but so you are residents of Sweden?

I guess I didn't realize that.

So I'm a

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

citizen of both countries, and then John is...

Obviously an American citizen and has like kind of like a green card in Sweden.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Nice.

Wow, that's fantastic.

Do you guys have something our question of the night is something you like to do in the build-up?

to Christmas or Hanukkah or the holidays, like something pre-Christmas activity.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

We've been working so much.

We just came off doing eight shows in nine days.

But I think that's probably how I would want to spend it anyway.

Band member or contributor

Just

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

do shows, play some Christmas music.

I've been singing a Holy Night and

John from 7,000 Apart

it's been

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

great.

John from 7,000 Apart

Go crazy and then completely...

die for a few days.

You've

Pete Schwabbe (host)

done your last show before New Year's, right?

No,

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

we've got two more

Pete Schwabbe (host)

before New Year's as well.

We'll talk about those as well, but you just said eight shows in nine days.

That's fantastic though, right?

Yeah, no,

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

we're very

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happy.

Isn't that like when you get that adrenaline rush and you got to keep going even though you could use the night off, like to be a working musician and not have any time off is not a bad thing, right?

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

No,

Pete Schwabbe (host)

it's the dream.

Yeah.

And it's

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

so different, especially now that we are working in two different continents, like when we're here, we want to play shows

Pete Schwabbe (host)

as

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

much as we can handle it.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Right.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

And when we're in Sweden, we're more like studio rats, you know?

And so the difference is quite...

But that's the way we want it to.

We think of our life as living it in seasons kind

Pete Schwabbe (host)

of.

So how long did it take you to get to that point in your career where you're pretty much working every night or at least as much as you want to where you're like, man, I could really use the night

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

off.

I mean, we started doing open mics in the area in 2016.

Oh my gosh.

John from 7,000 Apart

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

So it's been, it's been a while and we, we started a like a business and tried to do it very like.

you know as properly as we could since 2017 so it's been it's been uh eight years i guess no

Pete Schwabbe (host)

kidding yeah it's been

John from 7,000 Apart

kind of crazy start yeah oh i was gonna say we started technically in 2014

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

yeah that's when we started the band

John from 7,000 Apart

yeah

Pete Schwabbe (host)

when we

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

were still in long distance

So

Pete Schwabbe (host)

you're done with high school like in 2010 2012 2013 Okay, you're still kids

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

My birthday and I've been sick my last two birthdays.

I feel like they don't count

You

Pete Schwabbe (host)

gotta live it up.

When is your birthday?

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

December 6th.

Okay.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Yeah.

So, all right.

Well, that's, that's exciting.

Do you think you put too much stress on yourself?

Like, it's my birthday.

Ah!

And then you get sick.

Maybe.

I

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

think it's also had to do with that we got to the country December 3rd.

Oh,

Pete Schwabbe (host)

yeah.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

And I always get sick after we travel.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

So.

You're asking for trouble.

But what else are you gonna do?

You can't like hop a steamship and go back to Sweden.

No.

And I can't

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

like, you know, take a week off.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Right.

Who would do that?

That's crazy.

So what's happened with you guys?

Is there big news since the last time you've been here?

Uh, kind of.

I mean,

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

John has started producing a lot

John from 7,000 Apart

and

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

working on our fourth album.

John from 7,000 Apart

Wow,

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

nice.

John from 7,000 Apart

Yeah, so I've been producing a lot in Sweden as well.

So I've worked with 15 artists

Pete Schwabbe (host)

in the

John from 7,000 Apart

last three months.

I'm doing that plus all of our music.

So I did like, I've produced like 40 songs or something.

So it's been really, really fun.

And like it's been helping a lot with our music too, just to work on random genres and try to just get better at music production.

And I think, yeah, we just had a cool piece of news, which was like, we got a song on, I don't know if you know music, New Music Friday.

It's a playlist on Spotify,

Pete Schwabbe (host)

but yeah, I've heard of that.

John from 7,000 Apart

But there's a Swedish, like a Sweden version of that.

And one of our songs got placed on the New Music Friday, Sweden, which was really cool because

Pete Schwabbe (host)

it's like

John from 7,000 Apart

20 songs that get placed there weekly.

And one of them was ours.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

And then

John from 7,000 Apart

the Rolling Stones were on there.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Oh, yeah, I've heard of them.

Yeah, I don't know if you've heard of a

John from 7,000 Apart

band called the Rolling Stones, but

Pete Schwabbe (host)

they're

John from 7,000 Apart

coming into their own.

So that was really fun.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

So what, that's really cool.

So how does that, how does that work?

How do they, do you have to submit it?

Yeah.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

So one sits up with your distributor, Spotify says hi.

Like, we

Pete Schwabbe (host)

see that you have

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

a new song coming and then you can pitch it to the editors.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Nice.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

And we were just, yeah, lucky and we've been working hard to get to where we are, but it

Pete Schwabbe (host)

feels great.

Yeah, yeah.

So when you guys, when you work with producers or artists, do you have a producer you work with typically?

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

Not anymore.

John is our producer

Pete Schwabbe (host)

now.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

Yeah.

I mean, I have a lot to say as well.

I just don't push the buttons.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

I would imagine If you ever need a second set of ears, yeah, I'm here for sure.

Well, please Well, it is amazing like I know that's something I learned I don't know well into adulthood that it's not just like yeah the songs are the most important and writing them and playing them But man a producer can make something just take it to another level, right?

John from 7,000 Apart

Yeah, it's fun.

I think it's like a

Also being the artist and the producer, like you can get your vision across way more.

And we've worked with a lot of amazing producers in the past, but it's just been one of those things where it's like, I never felt like I could get my, what I was aiming for, fully across.

And

Pete Schwabbe (host)

so now

John from 7,000 Apart

it's like really cool to like do that

Pete Schwabbe (host)

and

John from 7,000 Apart

just be able to do it.

You know, it's crazy.

So

Pete Schwabbe (host)

do you in working with artists that come in, I assume they're paying you for studio time or whatever and you ever listen to go.

John from 7,000 Apart

No, I've been, I've been

Pete Schwabbe (host)

choosing, I've been

John from 7,000 Apart

choosing like people to work with largely, which is a benefit of like this production is not my full time thing.

So I can choose people to work with a bit and like find people that I actually am like really excited to work with.

And that's been great.

Cause then I have, I can learn, but I'm also working with someone that I'm excited for their project too.

So it's been great.

It's

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

been mostly like friends and

John from 7,000 Apart

colleagues, you know, like we run

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

this once a week.

a songwriting circle,

Pete Schwabbe (host)

where we just

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

like meet with other songwriters, play each other songs

Pete Schwabbe (host)

that

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

we've written, and then give each other feedback.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

And

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

so a lot of the people have been from that group.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Just give them the demo, come on.

They'll list, they'll be, they just said they're not gonna like, he's got a rap song he wrote.

Oh, yeah, let's do it.

I can do it.

I gave him notes, but I don't know anything.

Give me 10 hours, Max.

Yeah.

Don't get it done.

It's not very good.

I would love it if you guys would play something.

Yeah.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

We're gonna play our next single, we were thinking.

It's a

Pete Schwabbe (host)

fun one.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

So January is usually like the poorest month, right?

Because everyone spends money during

Band member or contributor

Christmas.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

So we decided to release our song, Currency.

on

Pete Schwabbe (host)

in

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

January and we release on the 7th of every month.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

So we have

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

a new song every single month.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Really?

Yeah.

Well, that seems to be out January 7th.

Yep.

When nobody has any currency left.

So it's perfect.

I love it.

All right, fantastic.

John and Amelie from 7000 Apart here in the studio performing their new song, Currency.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

One for the money, two for the road Three for the passion, four not to go To the freak show, peak show, they're all about Misha Trade our souls for fame to get a Nia name What is the skull at the end of the rainbows?

Then the front row and the tip of my toes I don't wanna go home, you know I can't say no

All I got is time but no friend's place I'm really uninspired by the human race No money to my name but I have no shame Guess I didn't really learn how to play this game I just wanted to get paid for the songs that I made

And what can I buy with

Band member or contributor

that?

Pete Schwabbe (host)

I really wanted to say something like when you looked at me like you were waiting for me and I usually don't have a problem not saying something but I didn't want to run up here.

What can I buy with that?

I don't know.

That's what I...

We

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

should have prepped

Pete Schwabbe (host)

you.

I'm sorry, we should have rehearsed.

Yeah, we should

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

have rehearsed.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Yeah.

I was going to say lots of stuff, but then I would have sounded like I didn't really get the gist of the song.

You're welcome to stand up and dance around, Amelie, because I know, I love when you sit in the chair there and I, do you dance around on stage or you kind of do what you just did at the mic?

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

It depends if it's like, if it's a duo show, I keep pretty to myself, but if it's a band show, I'm all over that

Pete Schwabbe (host)

stage.

Oh, that's so great.

You're just feeling it.

It's fantastic.

So all right.

So do you when you put out a new album, are there themes to it or do the songs, do you try to put them together somehow in a theme or are they just random?

Yeah,

John from 7,000 Apart

we I don't know if it's fully intentionally, but we kind of write topically.

OK, just about our life.

And then it ends up being something like so this this album is called Why Do We Do What We Do?

It's a mouthful, but it's also, it's one of those things where we're like, this is what this album is about.

Yeah.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

It's looking at our life and being like, you know, how did we end up here?

Yeah.

And why do we keep going?

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Writing about what you know, right?

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

Yeah.

I mean, and so like, obviously that's going to be different errors of your life.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Right.

You

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

know, and our previous album, Failure Feelings, was very mental health

Pete Schwabbe (host)

focused.

Oh, that was great.

Because that's

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

what we needed

Pete Schwabbe (host)

at the time.

Great stuff.

Yeah, that was fun.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

Yeah, thank you.

I don't know our debut album was just a debut album I mean obviously we wrote about what we needed to write about then but

Pete Schwabbe (host)

I think

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

it was more like just the songs that we had written to that point I think it's more important for me that like it's cohesive musically I

Pete Schwabbe (host)

would

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

say like the themes make they land where they need to land and

But at the end of the day, we pick the best songs.

We write a lot of songs and then we pick the best ones and put them on the album.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

That's so great.

It's a great song.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

Thank

Pete Schwabbe (host)

you.

It's fun, right?

You know, yeah, it's a lot of fun.

It's a

John from 7,000 Apart

very, with full band, it's very

Pete Schwabbe (host)

loud.

Oh, it goes hard.

It's very loud.

It's nice to know, too, that a couple people like you guys who are loaded still have money issues from time

John from 7,000 Apart

to

Pete Schwabbe (host)

time.

Oh.

We're very loaded, yeah.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

Totally loaded.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Being

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

musicians, working in two different countries.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

Taylor Swift versus us, I don't know.

If there's any difference, you

Amelie from 7,000 Apart

know.

Pete Schwabbe (host)

We are coming right back with 7,000 Apart.

We'll have a few more minutes with these guys who are in studio.

Merry Christmas to me.

Nightlight with Pete Schwabbe coming right

Band member or contributor

back.

Pete Schwabba (host)

What is your favorite pre-christmas activity?

That is tonight's question of the night here at Night Light.

I'm Pete Chihuahua.

Great to have you with us on this Tuesday night a pre-christmas show.

I could say this show is one of my favorite pre-christmas activities because I have great guests all night including

My current guess, 7,000 apart, John and Amelie are here.

It's such an outstanding music duo.

We just heard them perform and you've got a pizza waiting for you, so I'll make this as quick as possible because I don't, what did you get on the pizza I have to ask?

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

We got the Mediterranean pizza.

Ooh, nice.

Yeah, so some black olives, I think some feta cheese and some pesto.

That

Pete Schwabba (host)

didn't even exist, like.

I'm sure it did in the Middle East or whatever, but I love Mediterranean

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

food.

Pete Schwabba (host)

And a Mediterranean pizza, surprisingly.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

Right, sounds good to me.

I'm excited.

Tell us

Pete Schwabba (host)

about your New Year's Eve show you have here

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

in Green Bay.

Oh my gosh, we get to go back to Titletown.

It's been one of our favorite places.

these last few years, just because they always put on such a great event, like there's always so much happening around it.

So, yeah, this summer we opened for Jesse McCartney, which was nuts, and now we get to play three hours of some great music from six to nine, just in the Titletown area with...

I think we got Lambo behind us, which is cool.

Nice.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

So that's like across the street kind of on

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

the same

Pete Schwabba (host)

street, but across the sides.

Yeah, that's fun.

Man, that's great.

And how, how would 10 of our crowds in a situation like that?

Because, you know, here in Northeast Wisconsin, there's a fair amount of drinking that happens.

So are people mostly focused on you guys or?

Are you like fighting for the attention of a game that's on or something?

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

It depends on

Pete Schwabba (host)

the venue

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

and I think for this I would just probably assume that this is gonna be kind of like there They do have some farmers markets Okay, or like arts and crafts farmers markets during summer and I would assume that this is gonna be a little bit like that But I think the stage is a little bigger and like with heating I think we have some heat and so I think I mean we definitely know people who are gonna be there to

come see us, but I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of people tubing, you know?

Maybe skating, I think they have ice skating and stuff, getting some food, so like, we're happy to be that, like, whatever you need us to be, you know?

Do you want to stand by the stage and like, sing along to every song?

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

We're gonna play fun songs and original

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

music, too, and... But if you're just there to, like, go ice skating and listen to us at the same time, that's cool, too.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's good, too.

All right.

And talk about some of these other dates you guys have coming up.

Wassa on the 26th.

at Malarkey's Blue Harbor.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

Yes.

On the

Pete Schwabba (host)

27th.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

That seems

Pete Schwabba (host)

like a fun venue.

Is that like in a big room they deck out for the

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

holidays or something?

No, we're going to be in one of their restaurant hub things.

Yeah.

So we actually got that show because we played on Local Five Live.

They have these like our town segments.

So they did one in Cheboygan and we did their live music.

Very cool.

Just right there on the water.

It was gorgeous.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's a beautiful area.

Then you got the West Bend Theater January 16th.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

Yes, that's going to be cool.

Pete Schwabba (host)

And Malone, Wisconsin.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

I've heard of Malone, Wisconsin.

Yeah, Ciglar winery.

It's a really, really sweet place.

What part of the

Pete Schwabba (host)

state is that?

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

It's pretty close.

We look it up the day up.

Or maybe the day before.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

Yeah.

I want to say we've played in every single smaller town in Wisconsin, but then there's always more.

And it's always like, yeah, we've played in the areas.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You've got to come to Marinette.

Yeah, we really do go north.

There's a fun.

We could turn out we could put some butts in the seats Yeah, let's do it.

All right.

We'll talk about that too.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

We'll

Pete Schwabba (host)

talk about LA stuff and then we'll talk about Marinette.

We'll reconvene

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

So

Pete Schwabba (host)

then back to Sweden and then what's that like more producing or more songwriting or what?

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

So we do around four to six gigs a month still in Sweden The gigs we do there are a lot more like not all them, but some of them are a lot more focused on like

more of like a music club type vibe, like very shorter, like an hour set, maybe splitting

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

nights with other bands, you

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

know, um, that world.

Uh, and then it's a lot of production and writing for us.

Um, we're, as we said, working on another album, like the third one is in like still being released.

Um, but we were like always trying to work in advance.

And since we released music on the seventh of every month, uh, so we're prepping already for April and beyond.

It's

Pete Schwabba (host)

a great gimmick.

I love that.

People come to expect it, I would imagine.

That's the plan, right?

That's so great.

That's the dream.

That's fantastic.

How's the tour been so far?

Have there been any memorable shows?

Are they all

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

memorable?

Do you

Pete Schwabba (host)

have any unique experiences?

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

We did a beautiful show at the Mulva Center in Depeer.

And their auditorium.

It was gorgeous.

So nice.

So we did like a combination of our music and some Christmas songs, holiday music.

Got a standing ovation there.

It's amazing.

From Depeer.

So

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

cute

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

sold tickets like it was so that was really special Yeah, we played some wineries all around Wisconsin also just like it's Such a chill vibe compared to summer because summer we do a lot of band shows.

It's very like high tempo.

It's big

Production like it's all the lights and all the speakers and at every gig.

Yeah, and here we've been doing a lot of duo shows and Just taking it very chill.

You get to talk to

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

the people in

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

the audience

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

a lot more

Pete Schwabba (host)

Very

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

intimate.

So it's

Pete Schwabba (host)

cool.

Do you have people that come out that knew you from high school?

Do they

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

I mean we had like we had people that drove up from Chicago to see us at Anduzzi's

Pete Schwabba (host)

yeah, which is crazy.

So like

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

it's it's weird like There's people that are like, oh, I've seen you

four or five times and you're like, okay, I kind of remember you,

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

but

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

also, and then sometimes, yeah, people from high school, we met some people this summer that knew us in high school.

They were freshmen when we were seniors and like, they're like, we've been following what you're doing and you know, it's, yeah, it's super fun to meet people that know who you are and

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

you know who they are.

Yeah, anytime you see like faces that you know in the crowd, that is always so special.

because then like you just feel a little safer and a little happier.

Your friends are there, you know?

That's

Pete Schwabba (host)

so cool.

Do you guys, we only have about less than a minute left, but what do you, when you get in the car and you drive to Malone, Wisconsin, what are you listening to?

What music do you guys

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

listen to?

So here's the thing, we, because we work with music, we don't listen to music in the car.

We listen to podcasts.

Podcasts,

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

okay.

So we listened to Dungeons and Dragons podcast

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

largely.

I

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

don't

Pete Schwabba (host)

know

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

if you've

Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guest)

ever, if you know anything about that, but that's a whole topic.

Not

Pete Schwabba (host)

like since it started on television video games, like in the 80s.

I know it's a whole thing.

I know it's

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

great.

We have a very nerdy side.

We do have a very nerdy side.

It comes out in the variant.

That is very good.

But when we have the band, we usually just talk.

But when it's just John and I, we usually turn on a little podcast and then rest my voice.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Because you're cool side with the engine.

You're nerd side with Dungeons and Dragons.

John and Emily.

from 7,000 apart.

Knock them dead.

Have a great tour.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

Thank you so

Pete Schwabba (host)

much.

When you come back, please come back again.

John and Amelie from 7,000 Apart (guests)

We love that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Fantastic.

We are coming right back, folks, after news, sports, and the weather.

Ben Reiser is here for some movie talk.

Steve March tour, May coming up.

Lots to get to tonight.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who's had a paper route for 25 years but never collected, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwabba

Welcome back, folks.

to act two of tonight's edition of Nightlight, a Tuesday night version.

It is a beautiful balmy day in Wisconsin, a gorgeous day here for, especially when you consider it's late December, gorgeous weather today.

And you must have been happy, Conrad.

You don't like the cold, but you still choose to live in Wisconsin.

Conrad

Sorry, I remember last week when I said I woke up sweaty.

And it was because my apartment was at 85 and I I kind of thought about it.

I was like wait I don't have my heat on but I do have someone who's a little older You know and who's below me in my apartment building.

Yeah, so I'm guessing yes the heat cranked and what does he do in rises?

Oh, wow, so I had my heat off for two days, okay?

This morning was at 82 and your heat was off completely off

Pete Schwabba

You could say boo boo bucks Getting

Conrad

the old

Pete Schwabba

coot below to turn his heat up like that.

That's

Conrad

so yeah, it was a nice day And I opened up my windows a little bit.

I was like, I need you to please escape I need this heat to escape

Pete Schwabba

That's fantastic.

Conrad

Um, are you done with your Christmas shopping?

I Actually finished it today.

Yeah, you know, I got some gifts and I was like, well, I could maybe get a few more So I want to I went to dicks and they have some there's some nice deals going on there

Yeah.

So I went there and actually shopped in person, which is weird.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Conrad

Who

Pete Schwabba

knew?

That's pretty cool.

So I finished mine today too.

And I'm notorious for giving print ups.

Like I save everything for the last minute and I realized the shipping can't get there.

So I'll print up a picture of what I got you and say it's on the way.

I thought I've done that like twice over the years, but apparently I'm that guy.

like my kids ago.

What do you need ink in the printer,

Narrator

dad, for your

Pete Schwabba

gifts for us?

Well, brats.

So that's my thing.

But hey, welcome to Nightlight, folks.

If you missed the first hour, it was a lot of fun.

And you can catch it at civicmedia.us, where all the shows are catalogued as podcasts.

We had 7,000 apart in the studio.

John and Amelie, they're so much fun every time they're on the show.

Very talented music duo.

who split time between here in Green Bay where they met in high school and in Stockholm, Sweden.

You good?

Conrad's getting the bell.

Okay.

I thought he took a powder.

He just kind of disappeared there.

And then we talked about a really cool story I read about Bill Murray who I think has life figured out and it's so much fun to read Bill Murray stories.

If you just go to the Google and type in Bill Murray stories, they come up in abundance, but this in particular

was a really fun one, so it's all in the first hour.

Oh, I also talked about how I brush my teeth with a hair on my toothbrush, because

Conrad

I was- Yes.

You know, you could have just taken it off.

What do

Pete Schwabba

you do when you find a hair- Like, let's say you order a pizza and there's a hair in it and you're starving.

Conrad

You know, I'm not going to eat that slice.

Pete Schwabba

But you're going to still go back in.

Conrad

I'll go around.

It's tough.

Maybe I'll eat up to the hair.

Like, if you're- I'm

Pete Schwabba

just kidding.

If you're starving though, like-

I've done that like where I if I get a burger from a fast food place and there's a hair in it I'm not eating any part of the burger,

Narrator

but I will eat something else

Pete Schwabba

because I feel like I feel like even if you eat the burger with the hair in it It's probably not a very sanitary person who's made your food to begin with there's probably

Narrator

a

Pete Schwabba

sneeze in there

Conrad

Whatever maybe

Pete Schwabba

he flossed with the lettuce and threw it on there.

I don't know but I don't I don't do that, but on pizza.

I probably what I would probably go around

Conrad

Yeah, I mean

Well, I worked in a pizza place before and now I've there's I've heard people complain that there is maybe not for my making but yeah other people making the pizza like yeah, we found a hair in it.

Can you please remake it?

Pete Schwabba

And did you?

Conrad

Well, yeah, we had the customers always right, you know

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, but did you, were you mad?

Did you pull out more hair?

Conrad

It wasn't, you know, I was like, it's not me.

So I'm not going to yell that.

I'll just remake this pizza.

Okay.

It doesn't take that long to make one.

Pete Schwabba

There's an establishment in Marinette, Wisconsin that I went to once and found a very tiny gross hair.

And it's the kind you would think came from a part of the body that should have been nowhere near a breakfast burrito.

However.

I worked around it, whatever.

I was like, this is horrible.

I hope that's from a chest as opposed to below the equator.

Okay, I

Conrad

think that's still bad.

Pete Schwabba

It's horrible.

I don't want any, whatever, but then I forgot or someone suggested we go back to the same place.

It's like a year later.

what might have been the same hair somehow.

It looked, and I was like, oh my God, I totally forgot I was here a year ago, found a hair in my food, and here I am like an idiot back here at this place again, and I have not, it's been three years, I will never go back there.

Conrad

Yeah, that's, you know, that's a Pete Band place.

Pete Schwabba

It's Pete Band.

I think we got a new list restarted here.

So fun hour number one, let's refresh everybody's memory though, Conrad.

Here's the nightlight question of the night.

Quiz Narrator

Let's talk about the question.

Okay question question

Audio Clip

question question

Pete Schwabba

question

Audio Clip

question question this question

Pete Schwabba

question

Audio Clip

questions

Pete Schwabba

What is your favorite pre-christmas activity?

I Should say pre-holiday activity because different people celebrate different things whether it's Kwanzaa Festivus Hanukkah, whatever it is folks.

Let us know what your favorite pre-holiday

Because the build up is the fun part.

I said putting up a tree, lights, except outside lights.

I don't enjoy putting them up, but I do.

And just having music on until I get sick of it, which I am.

And what about you, Con?

What did you say again?

Conrad

You know, I said, well, I said getting a nice couple of Joe and watching a film.

But I did add that, you know, just buying gifts for someone.

Yeah.

seeing, you know, seeing how they enjoy it after they open it.

Pete Schwabba

Absolutely.

I am very excited.

I got my wife a gift today, and I think she's gonna like it, and I'm... Yeah, it is more fun to give than to receive.

Especially as you get older, you get sucky gifts anyway.

It's not like you're gonna get a new bike or

Conrad

a video game.

Dude, there's nothing that... that feeling when you were a kid and you got that toy.

Yeah, right.

There's nothing better than that.

Or

Pete Schwabba

you saw that present rap and you're like, that could

Conrad

be Atari or

Pete Schwabba

whatever.

You know, a Sony PlayStation.

And it's not.

It's a box with a bad sweater.

But anyway, so there you go, folks.

Let us know 855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic.

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So, I think we need to get to this quiz, Conn.

Conrad

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Time is of the essence.

Conrad

Well, it's a short quiz.

You know, it's just scenes from classic Christmas movies, and you just have to guess it.

I have to guess the movie.

Pete Schwabba

Okay, like I said, I'm not... I should know... I should be more versing Christmas movies, but I'm willing to put myself out there.

I think you'll

Conrad

get this.

Pete Schwabba

Okay.

Conrad

You ready for number one?

Pete Schwabba

I'm ready for number one.

You got

Conrad

the

Pete Schwabba

bell?

Yeah.

Let's see what happens.

Here we go.

All right.

Narrator

What is it?

A

Pete Schwabba

Christmas story.

And you know what it was?

I didn't recognize the lines.

I've only seen that once.

But it was the music.

Narrator

The

Pete Schwabba

period music that was the giveaway.

Well done, Schwabba.

Narrator

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba

there

Narrator

you go.

Pete Schwabba

One for one.

One for one.

Caller

Your brother Harry Bailey broke through the ice and was drowned at the age of nine.

Conrad

That's a lie.

Harry Bailey went to war.

He got the congressional medal.

Two for two, yeah.

That's awesome.

I love that movie.

All right, here we go.

Audio Clip

Ah, but you should not use your Kringle name.

It's dangerous.

Not call myself Kringle?

What other name would suit me?

There is one.

You were wearing this when we found you as a baby.

See what it says?

Clause.

It

Pete Schwabba

has to be Santa Claus that's coming to town, right?

I knew it was of that era.

I couldn't remember.

Okay.

Wow, I'm crushing.

Isn't it

Movie Clip

viewed, Audrey?

Narrator

She'll see it later, honey.

I

Pete Schwabba

like when he says some of the little lights are not twinkling Clark.

He's like, I know well.

Thanks for

Narrator

noticing

Conrad

The fake sense, like, yeah, hey, buddy.

Pete Schwabba

I love how you keep pointing the clip after I guessed it, because you like the

Conrad

movie so much.

All right, here we go.

Five for five, right?

Yes, five for five.

Caller

Many Christmases ago, I went to buy a doll for my son.

I reached for the last one they had, but so did another man.

As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way.

Pete Schwabba

What happened to the doll?

It was destroyed.

Uh, Seinfeld.

That was a season nine episode, right?

We have a great clip.

We'll play that in the third

Narrator

hour

Pete Schwabba

of Savannah Tommie Wilson's thing.

Okay, so I'm six for six.

Narrator

I'll tell you, Max, I don't know why I ever leave this place.

I've got all the company I need right here.

Hello!

Hello!

How are you?

Pete Schwabba

How are you?

I asked you first.

Narrator

Grinch?

Pete Schwabba

Oh, wow.

That was really mature.

See, I'd feel good about myself, but I think the last quiz you gave me, I did so poorly on your treating me like I'm a congenital idiot right now with some of these, but some of them I had to piece together.

So, all right, I'm doing

Movie Clip

okay.

Who is it?

It's little Nero, sir.

I have your pizza.

Leave it on the doorstep and get

Pete Schwabba

the hell out of

Movie Clip

here.

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

Movie Clip

Well, what about the money?

What money?

Pete Schwabba

Well, you have to pay for your pizza, sir.

Movie Clip

That effect.

How much do I owe you?

Uh, that'll be $11.80, sir.

Keep the change, you filthy animal.

Cheapskate.

Hey, I'm gonna give you to the count of ten to get your...

Narrator

Hold on

Movie Clip

one.

Yellow.

No good keister off my property before I pop your guts full of lead.

One, two, ten.

That

Narrator

wasn't

Pete Schwabba

very fair.

Am I eight for eight?

Yeah.

This is insanity.

Quiz Narrator

Okay.

That necklace there, how much is it?

It's 270 pounds.

Die

Pete Schwabba

hard.

Quiz Narrator

All right.

I'll have it.

Pete Schwabba

Christmas

Conrad

movie

Pete Schwabba

or not a Christmas

Conrad

movie.

It's not die hard,

Quiz Narrator

though.

Gift wrapped.

Yes, Mark.

Let me just pop it in the box.

Homelands too?

Could we be quite quick?

Certainly, sir.

Ready in the flashiest of flashes.

That necklace there, how much is it?

It's 270 pounds.

It's Alan Rickman, right?

Um, all right.

Uh, I'll have it.

Lovely.

Love, actually.

Would you like

Pete Schwabba

it?

Is that what it was?

Yes!

Got it.

I should get, like, a half a point for that.

Conrad

Took you a second.

Pete Schwabba

That was pretty that was like a little curveball there because it was Alan Rickman

Conrad

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba

he's not Hans Gruber.

Is it Gruber?

Conrad

I don't know.

I only have only seen it.

All

Movie Clip

right, here's the next one.

Pete Schwabba

That was a fun scene.

Conrad

Yes, you got my nine of ten This one's a short one

Narrator

Wait,

Pete Schwabba

let's do that again

Narrator

Sorry

Conrad

what you said Bobcat Goldway

I don't, maybe the actor, I don't know the actor, but... I don't know what that is.

It's a, it's a famous... Scrooge version.

Pete Schwabba

Scrooge'd?

Conrad

Oh, it's from

Pete Schwabba

Scrooge.

Yeah.

I bet that is Bupkick all the

Conrad

way.

All right.

Announcer

Last one.

Pete Schwabba

Last one.

All right.

Announcer

You're as healthy as a horse.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

I've never even done as that good on a test in high school or college as I just did on that test.

Conrad

Would you get 10 and a half out of 12?

10 and a half out of 12?

I'll take

Pete Schwabba

that.

All right, we are coming right back, ladies and gentlemen.

When we come back, we're going to tell you all about Cruises in Lake Geneva with Ellen Berling.

She will be here from Lake Geneva Cruises, and it's a pre-recorded interview.

She's going to tell us all about their really cool Santa Cruises.

Then Ben Reiser at 635.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight.

Host

The holidays are upon us, however you celebrate these holidays.

Have fun and be safe.

It is so fun.

Ellen Berling

To be in Wisconsin, this

Host

is the Christmas State, no matter where you live in our fantastic state.

We are broadcasting live from downtown Green Bay, statewide.

So our reach is big and it goes all the way down to Lake Geneva, if you can believe that.

And that is where our next guest joins us from.

She is the general manager of Lake Geneva Cruise Lines, Ms.

Ellen Berling.

Ellen Berling

Hi, Ellen.

Hi, thanks for having me.

Host

Oh, it's great to have you.

How are things in Lake Geneva?

Ellen Berling

They're great.

We are about halfway through our Santa Cruz season and looking forward to the next few days leading up to Christmas.

As always, Lake Geneva is a bustling place.

It's busy all the time.

Host

You know, we spent, I think it was 2016.

My parents renewed their vows on their 50th wedding anniversary and we stayed at, I think the Grand Geneva or something like that.

It was the whole family.

Ellen Berling

It was so much

Host

fun.

And I went there as a kid and I forgot how beautiful it was.

Being

Ellen Berling

back there

Host

as an adult, it was just such a beautiful picturesque place.

Are you a native?

Ellen Berling

I am, actually.

I grew up raised and grew up and raised in Lake Geneva.

I went to school and high school there and everything.

I lived just a few miles away now in Burlington, but obviously I spend a lot of time in Lake Geneva for my job.

Host

Has it grown in terms of population?

I know you get a lot of vacationers there, but year-round, has the city itself expanded by a

Ellen Berling

lot?

say by a lot, but they always used to say that the population triples in the summer.

A lot of those are just visitors, of course, but I think this town itself has grown a bit.

There's certainly some new subdivisions around in that type of thing.

but it's still kind of a you know for those of us who grew up there it's still a small town except when it gets on those busy weekends and it's a whole different place.

Host

All right so tell us a little bit about this uh this great Santa Cruz.

Ellen Berling

So the Santa Cruz kind of came from an idea that the owner of our company um had when he visited Quarterlane Idaho where they have a boat company there that does um I don't think they call it the Santa Cruz it's a Christmas cruise or something along those lines but it's very

similar to what we ended up doing, but ours has developed in a little bit different direction, and that is also part of a fundraiser.

So it started in 2017, and I have to say, at the beginning, it was a little bit of a struggle because we just did it without a lot of thought, without a lot of planning, and since that time, it has really developed into something that kind of runs like a well-oiled machine, obviously.

people in every division of our company that help work whether it's parking or safety crew being on the pier or whatever it happens to be so when when this idea came about it hit it has developed to something even better now so because of what what we do is um

the boat we do leave from Williams Bay as I mentioned before so even though our company is primarily located in the city of Lake Geneva this particular event takes place from Williams Bay again just a few miles from Lake Geneva so um what they do is we we get people on the shoreline to allow us to put up some big lighted displays um many people will say why aren't the house is decorated and

You know, if you've been to Lake Geneva, you probably know many, many of the homes are summer residences.

Even the big mansions and the states are always occupied year round.

So what we do is put up about 30 different lighted displays along the shoreline and kind of tell a narration of sort of a fanciful story that goes along with what they're seeing and play Christmas music and that type of thing.

all leading up to where Santa has his winter hideaway before he gets ready to go out and deliver his gifts.

We tell the story that he's sort of escaping the toy factory and he's taking a rest at his little hideaway on Lake Geneva.

So partway through the trip, the boat slows down and stops in front of Santa's hideaway and he comes out and his voice can be heard on the boat.

He reads the names of all the good kids, all the nice kids on the boat.

So it's very, very cool to see, you know, the anticipation of the kids wondering if they're going to be on the nice list or not, you know, and they all get boarding passes, kind of lanyards that they wear.

And if they're on the nice list.

They get punched.

You know, they have a punch, a nice or naughty.

We do all nice.

We don't do any naughty.

We do all nice.

You know, so that's from what everybody always says is the part they love the most is when

the kids see Santa and then hear their name.

It's a really, really neat experience.

It's something that they always remember.

Host

What a great experience, I'm sure.

That sounds like so much fun.

I was looking at your website too, and it just looks so beautiful, like the way you have it lit up.

I am curious, it says the boat deck is heated, but how cold does it get out in the water?

I'm sure people I would assume have to bundle up.

Ellen Berling

Yeah, you know, we have big heaters on both decks and the areas where they're seated are all enclosed.

So we, you know, definitely you need a jacket, but it's not cold at all.

I mean, it's probably not like being inside a building per se in a heated house or something, but

It's comfortable.

Host

My guest is Ellen Berling.

She is the general manager of Lake Geneva Cruise Lines.

They offer this outstanding Santa Cruz.

This sounds exciting too.

You've got beverages for children and adults, which is important

Ellen Berling

for

Host

everybody there at Santa's bar, which looks fun.

And then you've got a raffle that gives you a chance to win amazing prizes.

What can people win?

Ellen Berling

Right.

The thing that makes us different from the other Santa Cruz that I mentioned, where the idea came from is that

We do have a charity aspect of this event.

And we work with an organization called the 531 Fund, which is 531 for Wellworth County.

That's our zip code prefix.

And right now it's six local charities, and they set up a booth, each of them, their own booth, to decorate a Christmas tree and fill it with all the different decorations and prizes they can win.

So, you know, there's boats, there's trips, there's

gift bags all different you know really cool things that they can win and the 531 fund all staffed by volunteers um comes uh staffed every night and sells the raffle tickets so as you're waiting to board the boat you walk through and look at the different booths that the charities have set up and um enter your raffle tickets for the drawing that they do in the beginning of january and since we started this uh event

It has given over a million dollars to local charity.

So it's a big, big accomplishment we're very proud of.

Host

Well, Ellen, keep up the great work.

Merry Christmas.

Happy holidays.

Happy New Year.

Have a great season.

And let's definitely talk again.

Ellen Berling

Absolutely.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Host

You're very welcome.

All right.

That's Ellen Berling.

Check out Lake Geneva boat cruises.

Cruise lines.

Lake Geneva cruise lines.

So much fun.

Pete (host)

Alright, welcome back.

We are halfway through our last live show of the week, folks.

We will be off Wednesday.

You're off too, Con, right?

I am.

Yeah, you're not just gonna be here like doing stuff.

Ben Riser (guest)

I'll just be

Pete (host)

looking at your seat.

Really miss Pete So all right, this is exciting.

We've got an hour number three Steve March tour may will be here Steve is a band leader.

He's got a 13 piece outfit called steam.

They travel all over the place.

He is very accomplished musician

Regardless of genre, and he is the son of Mel Tormé.

That'll be fun too.

And Steve is going to perform here in the studio, which will be fun.

It's kind of a book-ended music show.

But right now, to just kind of change things up a little is my pleasure to welcome back to Night Light, one of my good friends.

He is one of the programmers at UW Cinematheque and for the Wisconsin Film Festival.

And he drops by here to talk movies and TV from time to time.

And we love it when he does, Mr. Ben Riser.

Hey, Ben.

Hey Pete, how are you

Ben Riser (guest)

doing?

I feel like crap,

Pete (host)

but I'm here for you.

I appreciate it.

And you feel like crap.

You're not even in your your own stomping grounds.

Are you still in New York?

No, no, I'm back home.

You're back home.

OK, that's good.

Madison's a good Christmas town or holiday town.

I should you celebrate Christmas or or Hanukkah or both?

Ben Riser (guest)

I celebrate both.

I was in New York celebrating Hanukkah.

Now I'm back in Madison getting ready to celebrate Christmas.

I'm actually

I just came back from Jim Healey's house.

Oh, we're having a holiday dinner with our families.

Lovely.

But I said, you know what?

You guys have some dessert without me.

I got to go talk to Peachwalla.

Pete (host)

We're looking for an out, and you knew it.

And I provided said out.

Well, you said it, not me.

That's a lovely evening, I'm sure, with the Healey's.

Love, Jim Healey.

And best to your family as well.

Your wife is from Stevens Point, correct?

You are absolutely right.

That's where my daughter goes to school.

So I had that conversation with your wife and you have a wonderful family, Ben.

Is your whole

Ben Riser (guest)

family home for the holidays?

Pete (host)

Yes.

As of a couple of days ago, they are now.

So it's just, I mean, you just can't, it's weird when they're gone and then you start to fall in love with the quiet.

But then when they get back, there's like a day or two of adjustment because we're all emotional, crazy people.

And then we just love it.

It's like old times and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

It's great stuff.

It's true.

It's true.

Yeah.

Ben Riser (guest)

And my kids, my kids, the holidays are the only time of year where my kids will sometimes let me show them a movie or two.

So that's exciting for

Pete (host)

me.

We watched the last couple of nights.

Joe, my son Joe, who you know, got to pick the movie Sunday night.

He wanted to go down memory lane.

So we watched the Polar Express.

Oh my goodness.

And then we watched my daughter Kate picked the Santa Claus last night, which my two good friends wrote.

So I hadn't seen that in like 25 years.

So we watched that.

Ben Riser (guest)

Now, my question to you is who's got the deader eyes, the CGI, you know, motion capture people in Polar Express or Tim Allen in Santa Claus?

Pete (host)

Yeah, that's a

Ben Riser (guest)

tough

Pete (host)

one.

And I will say the Polar Express, I hadn't seen that in ages in the first.

Half of that movie is a snooze.

Yeah, the CGI is bad, but just that train.

It's like, I was telling Conrad, it's like 15 minutes of filler where the ticket flies out the window.

And then it's like, what am I watching here?

And it's okay when they get to the North Pole, but yeah, and if you can stop MacTim Allen, he's not terrible.

in the movie, but he's just Tim Allen.

He's not gonna give you that extra level, you

Ben Riser (guest)

know.

I was just reading an article with a bunch of quotes.

All the roles that Chevy Chase either turned down or tried to

Pete (host)

get, but

Ben Riser (guest)

didn't get, and he turned down the Santa Claus.

So if not

Pete (host)

for Chevy Chase

Ben Riser (guest)

turning down the Santa Claus, we may never have had Tim Allen in such a huge national movie star spotlight.

Pete (host)

I

Ben Riser (guest)

think Chevy Chase also turned down Toy Story.

So

Pete (host)

there you go.

What?

As Woody?

No, not as Woody, probably, but oh, you got a poltergeist happening there.

Wow, look at

Ben Riser (guest)

that, yeah.

One of my ceiling lights just sort of like collapsed and it's like swinging.

Pete (host)

I think it's weird that Chevy Chase, like he had just done, well, a few years before Christmas vacation.

And I remember hearing about this, because Benvenuti Rednick, the writers, it was a big deal when they sold this.

And when it got made, because it made so much money, the studio had to pay them their net points, which almost never happens.

But Tim Allen, luckily it was his first movie and his salary wasn't too huge.

So they couldn't hide the money anywhere.

And they had to pay everybody, which I think is kind of fun.

Yeah, that's great.

All right, so let's jump in.

We've got, first of all, I want to ask you, you saw, I saw one of your Facebook posts, Ben, I think that you got to see one battle after another on 70 millimeter.

Is that true?

Ben Riser (guest)

Not only that, 70 millimeter IMAX, which apparently is different than 70 millimeter, although even I don't really understand all these formats when they get up that high in the stratosphere.

But yeah, 70 millimeter IMAX, which I believe

is the biggest gauge of actual film.

And then also the biggest screen.

This was at AMC Lincoln Square in Manhattan.

And my daughter, we were sitting in the fourth row.

I've been, you know, as you know, I've been seeing one battle after another basically almost every other day for a

Pete (host)

couple months.

I remember you saying that.

Ben Riser (guest)

This might have been my seventh time seeing one battle after another.

I'm out of my

Pete (host)

mind.

You know, and

Ben Riser (guest)

part of it is because it's in all these different formats and so.

Yeah.

But also I'm trying to get other people to see it and I literally have to drag them there like my daughter doesn't want to go to the movies and so I Dragged her to see it.

We were sitting in the fourth row and it was as immersive as a movie can get it was

Pete (host)

Wow, I Am envious I would love to see that on I mean, I think where I live it was there for two weeks on crappy whatever it was screen they had but But that's I want to ask you because I think I enjoyed that more than sinners I did but in

In terms of a movie being kind of all-encompassing, it's hard to argue sinners.

Maybe you didn't like sinners.

I don't remember what your take was on it, but like, it's got everything.

The music, the costumes, the period piece, the gimmick of Michael B. Jordan playing, you know, and really well-directed, and it's got, I don't know, that's a tough one.

Ben Riser (guest)

Well, we did have this conversation.

I'm not a sinners fan.

Okay.

I hear what you're saying It does have a lot of stuff, but the stuff it has I don't like that much like music We talked about this I feel like the soundtrack to sinners should be this really great authentic sort of blues score,

Pete (host)

but it's

Ben Riser (guest)

like this It's some European dude who's like, you know, sort of faking the blues

But I but I would argue that one battle after another is another is a movie that also has everything.

One battle after another is is an action movie, but it's also a comedy.

It's kind of a heartwarming family drama in some ways.

You know, and it's got

Pete (host)

satirical and, you know, yeah, it's got I agree with you.

It's and I love it.

I think it's my favorite movie of the year.

But I thought I.

If Sinners ends up winning, I don't even know if it's between just those two.

We'll see when the announcements come out.

But like, I could see why Sinners would win, I guess is what I'm saying.

And I did enjoy Sinners, but not as much as the other one.

Ben Riser (guest)

Yeah.

Well, I know a lot of people like Sinners.

I guess I should watch Sinners again.

I was psyched for Sinners.

I just, I don't know, Irish vampires.

Pete (host)

I forgot about the Irish element.

I forgot all about that.

Hey, let's, I want to ask you about Train Dreams.

What were your thoughts on Train Dreams?

Well, Train Dreams, there's a movie that

Ben Riser (guest)

I really wish had come around and played theaters near because I would have loved to see it in a theater.

I mean, I've got a big TV screen, but I still felt like this is a movie.

Again, I need to sit in the fourth row and like IMAX.

It's really feels like it should be this immersive experience.

And I watched Train Dreams twice.

I liked it quite a bit, but I really was bummed out that I was watching it on Netflix.

Pete (host)

And that's what we have to thank Netflix for, which is a big issue.

But I agree with you.

I thought, you know, I liked it so much.

I was like, if this got into the conversation for Best Picture, like I think it might, I wouldn't be, I'd be okay with that.

It's just a very simple, beautiful story about just a random guy and

the things you experience in life and feeling connected.

I just thought it was excellent.

Ben Riser (guest)

I really thought this year was a terrific year for movies.

So I think the 10 movies that get announced for Best Picture, I'll be surprised if I don't really love eight or nine of them.

So,

Pete (host)

you know, it's a

Ben Riser (guest)

great year.

Great year.

Pete (host)

What else have you seen?

My guest, by the way, is Ben Reiser.

He is one of the programmers at UW Cinematheque in Madison.

If you haven't been there, folks,

Check it out.

It's free.

They play, show great movies and they have great Q&As and all kinds of fun stuff.

So what else have you seen, Ben, that you could recommend, like a gem from this year that maybe that we haven't seen?

Ben Riser (guest)

Well, the other thing that I saw when I was in New York was the, the recently released Kill Bill, The Whole Bloody Affair.

Not a new movie, but you know, Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill, parts one and two, smushed together into one big four and a half hour movie with an intermission.

Uh, that was also in 70 millimeter and that was, uh, fantastic.

Uh, so I saw those two movies on the biggest screens possible.

And then the other two movies that I watched while I was, uh, going back and forth to New York or on the smallest screens possible, I watched a couple of movies on the airplane, uh, going back and forth.

I caught up with a movie that I had meant to see earlier this year called relay.

Yeah.

with Riz Ahmed, kind of a great 70s conspiracy thriller kind of movie that probably has at least one twist too many in the third act.

But up until then, I thought it was pretty good, pretty good thriller.

Pete (host)

I liked it too.

And I meant to look this up right before the show.

Oh, Heller Highwater.

It's the same director, right?

Yeah.

And he's got another film coming out called Either Fuse or The Fuse about finding an un...

Well, a bomb from World War Two in downtown London that hasn't gone off yet.

So, um, I, I, I can't wait to see Fuse either.

But yeah, I really liked, uh, Relay and Riz Ahmed was great.

And it's just, I, I found myself without doing a spoiler.

The female lead is, uh, I'm very unprepared for this interview.

I apologize.

Uh, James, Lily James.

from Baby Driver, who's great.

But I kept thinking, I kind of like how they drew that out, because I really, until the end, I thought, are they trying to get me to think it's her?

Is it really her?

And again, without saying what it is, I really, I like the whole movie, it was great.

Ben Riser (guest)

Yeah, great movie.

And then I saw this very dark, edgy, I guess it's a romcom?

I don't know, called Oh Hi.

OH comma

Pete (host)

hi in your text.

Yeah, what's that?

I've got a

Ben Riser (guest)

young couple that go away for a romantic weekend and Not to really spoil that movie but the guy wound winds up chained to the bed for the whole weekend because the The girl is sort of insecure and feels like maybe he doesn't want to remain her boyfriend Man is this a dark comedy.

I think you would like it

Pete, the godfather of Green Bay.

I feel like, you know, this might be something that's up your alley.

And I think both of those movies are on Netflix now.

I saw them on the plane and I came home and I was like, where are these movies?

And yes, I think they're both on Netflix Relay and Oh, hi, I would recommend those.

But but I yeah, I loved so many movies this year.

The most recent one that I saw was one that we premiered at Cinematheque a couple weeks ago, The Secret Agent.

which is a Spanish language film starring the guy who was the lead in Narcos, which is a show that I never got to see.

Pete (host)

Boy in

Ben Riser (guest)

Holbrook?

Oh.

No, Walter Mora.

Is that his name?

Huh.

I don't know.

I'm trying to find it now.

Secret agent, secret agent.

I think Rob Thomas wrote about that and gave it a

Pete (host)

good review.

Yes, he did.

Yes, he did.

Wagner Mora is the lead

Ben Riser (guest)

actor's name.

And this director, writer-director Cleber Mendoza-Filho, made a crazy, crazy movie maybe five years ago.

I can't remember what it's called, but this one is terrific.

Another terrific thriller.

It's a good year for thrillers.

I heard you've been catching up on some thrillers lately.

Pete (host)

Yeah, just...

Let's do this.

We're going to take a quick break.

Ben Reiser will be here.

We'll have Ben for a few more minutes after the break.

We'll talk about some of the movies I saw, and it's right up his alley with the 1970s.

We'll talk about all of that when we come back.

And Pluribus, Ben, I can't let you leave without talking Pluribus, so we'll do all that after this very short break.

Do not go anywhere, folks.

Nightlight is coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Ben Reiser

Coming

Host

up folks in hour number three Steve March Torme will be here He is gonna sing a song that his father made famous the Christmas song a cappella You ever see anything a cappella can in my shower.

Okay?

Let's keep it.

Let's keep it that way.

We have a few more minutes with my current

Ben Reiser

guest.

We've all got a great mental picture

Host

right now.

Ben Reiser is here.

He's one of the programmers of the Wisconsin Film Festival and UW Cinematheque.

And he joins us here periodically to talk movies.

And we love it when he's here.

Ben, first, let's get to Pluribus.

Thoughts?

Ben Reiser

Well, I love it.

I love that you love it.

I keep seeing things on these social medias, people complaining about how boring it is.

I don't feel that way at all.

And I also feel this is the same kind of pace and the same kind of dedication to sometimes spending half of an episode doing purely visual storytelling that Vince Gilligan did in his last few shows too.

If you ask me the first season of Better Call Saul, which everyone thinks is a masterpiece that show, that first season was incredibly slow moving.

If you go back and watch that, I mean, nothing even happens in the first season of Better Call Saul.

It's just sort of putting all the pieces on the table, I suppose.

But mostly, I didn't think you could get a fresh take on...

invasion of the body snatchers.

That's kind of a sci-fi premise.

And for me, this is a fresh take.

Like, I'm constantly surprised about the twists and the directions of this show goes.

What about you?

Host

I thought it was one of the coolest first episodes I've ever seen.

I could I was salivating before the

Ben Reiser

second

Host

one came out and then I thought it got boring and now I think

Ben Reiser

it sucks I I feel like

Host

I kind of agree with you like Better Call Saul like I love the openings of Better Call Saul where he would take five minutes To set something up whether it's making coffee and this and that I feel like this whole episode is that teaser in the opening and Sometimes they give you a nugget leading into the next episode which ultimately also does not pay off and Better Call Saul had Bob Odin Kirk

who's funny and the writing was a little funnier.

This can be funny.

I really like Ray of Seahorn and the woman who also is one of the pod people or whatever.

But

Ben Reiser

I

Host

don't know.

I hope it closes.

I'm sticking with it because it's Vince Gilligan.

I don't think I would have if it was a different filmmaker, if that makes sense.

Ben Reiser

It's interesting.

Yeah.

OK.

Yeah.

I mean, you're not alone.

Yeah.

You're absolutely not alone.

And neither are you.

For me.

There were two series that I tried to get into recently that I bailed on really quickly.

One of them was the All Her Fault with Sarah Snook from... Oh yeah, Succession.

I still haven't seen that.

Succession.

Yeah, which was really just seemed, you know, most TV to me, most normal TV to me seems like...

padded and filled with like these filler episodes.

In a way that for me, for whatever reason, Pluribus doesn't feel that way.

Or if at least it's its padded and filler, it's its own strange kind of pad, not the typical.

And then the other thing was that new Claire Danes and Matthew Rees.

Oh, yeah, I've got that on my list in me.

Yeah.

Oofa, man.

I used to love Claire Danes and now she's just such a.

She's just one big acting tick.

She's just got these things that she does.

No matter what she's doing, if she's saying hi to somebody or somebody just died in her arms, it's the same performance.

So you

Host

don't

Ben Reiser

like

Host

it.

You don't like the beast in me.

No.

OK.

Because that's on

Ben Reiser

my

Host

list to watch.

I was kind of, well, we liked Homeland to a point.

And

Ben Reiser

then,

Host

but she just.

Don't know what it is with her like she's a really good actor, but at times even when I think she's not trying to she

Ben Reiser

just

Host

kind of seems insane like

Ben Reiser

Yeah

Host

Like she's at a point where I was with Al Pacino where I just stopped He went

Ben Reiser

for being

Host

one of the best actors ever I can't even look at him now like right

Ben Reiser

and it

Host

started like with heat I'm like what happened to this guy like and I feel kind of the same way about Claire Danes

Ben Reiser

Yeah, no, I'm glad to hear you say that about heat because that's a movie I'd never

I don't understand what everyone loves about it, but especially Pacino's performance.

I'm like, what the heck is going

Host

on?

It's just jarringly bad to me.

Yeah.

But you know, I want to get into, we won't have time tonight, Ben, but you're a guy who can talk 70s movies all day long.

And I did have a recent, I jaunt into the 70s streaming in my own living room, but

I'm gonna be in Madison soon.

Let's do the 70s movies there.

We have about two more minutes.

Can you tell me, I love the, you're doing like a contest on Facebook.

You put Clapton in

Ben Reiser

sticks.

Host

What is going on there?

What's that all about?

Ben Reiser

I was back at my childhood home last week in Brooklyn at my mom's house.

And she's got this basket on a coffee table that's filled with pins.

with buttons that date all the way from the 50s.

She's got like an I like Ike pin.

Oh, wow.

But most of them are kind of rock and roll pins that my sisters and I would collect at various concerts.

And at the, we used to go to the shopping mall.

There was like a sort of, I guess they call it a head shop, right?

Where you can buy sort of like drug supplies, but then they also used to have like these

cute rock and roll pins.

Some of them are like album covers and a lot of them are just collected from like radio stations who would stand outside of big concerts and hand out these these pins.

So they're almost all of them are so horrible looking and embarrassing.

I thought, well, why don't I be like a process of elimination?

What's the lamest pin I have in this pin basket?

And so my first round was Clapton versus Styx.

And then Clapton won by a landslide as lamest.

And then I put him up against the Eagles and we're still sort of debating that one.

I think that's a little closer, apparently.

Apparently, people hate the Eagles more than they hate sticks.

I don't know what that is.

Host

I do too.

I don't know.

Did it start with the Big Lebowski when the cab driver hated the Eagles so much?

Like, I don't think

Ben Reiser

they're

Host

the greatest band ever, but they got some great songs.

I don't understand the vitriol.

toward them.

And I like Randy Meisner had a couple of solo songs I remember listening to on Casey Kasem's Top 40.

Ben Reiser

But I think maybe it's that Don Henley is such a jerk in real life.

And Glenn Fry wasn't much better.

So maybe it's that.

Maybe it's

Host

that.

Ben Reiser

It didn't burn too many bridges.

Host

This is always fun, buddy.

Go back to the Healies, tell them all I said hello, and you can make it back for dessert.

And we'll talk soon, Ben.

Thanks

Ben Reiser

so much.

Say hi to the family for me.

We'll do it likewise.

Merry

Host

Christmas, everybody.

Happy Christmas.

Thank you, sir.

Back at you.

All right.

That's Ben Reiser.

And thank you for the shout out, the Godfather Green Bay shout out, before our screening.

All right.

We're coming right back.

Steve March-Tormey is here in hour three.

It's nightly.

Peace.

Pete Chwaba

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who travels so he can pretend he's on the lam, Pete Chwaba.

All right.

Welcome back.

We are, uh, it is time for Act 3, folks.

This has been a really fun night.

Uh, as I mentioned earlier, this is our last live show.

Until after Christmas, we'll be back next Monday night, live Monday night and Tuesday, and then taking another short break, uh, over the New Year holiday.

So, uh, we gotta make this last hour count, Conny.

You ready?

We stretched out.

What was that?

Are you still here?

Are you still with me?

Conrad

Are you

Pete Chwaba

already on vacation an hour, or you can't make

Conrad

it another

Pete Chwaba

hour?

I

Conrad

had a mind fog there.

Well, I'm glad you're

Pete Chwaba

back.

This is exciting.

It's been a good show.

If you missed the first couple of hours, as I mentioned before, always available at civicmedia.us and catalogued in podcast form, we talked to an hour number one tonight.

This has been just, the whole night has been a blast.

So we had hour number one, we had 7,000 apart.

Here in the studio, they are kind of regulars on the show.

A great musical duo, husband and wife team, they performed a new song, they will drop January 7th, that was fun.

Ellen Berling joined us in hour number two to tell us all about Lake Geneva Cruises and their Santa Cruz, which you can still do.

I believe through, I think she said through the first of the year.

And then Ben Reiser joined us before the break to talk movies.

I cannot believe what a fan he is of the movie One Battle After Another, and I am too.

But I have not seen it nearly as much as Ben.

So we caught up with Ben.

And coming up in this hour in just a few minutes after the next break, Steve March Tormé will be here, a band leader, musician, singer, songwriter.

He's done it all in the music industry.

And he is going to perform a classic here, acapella.

that another very famous family member of his wrote.

We will give you more information when Steve is here in the studio.

That will be fun.

So we've got music, book ending the show.

I talked about how I brush my teeth with a hair on my toothbrush.

Yes.

But I surmised that it was my own hair and I was in a hurry, so I couldn't get it out, so I just went with it.

It had to have been mine.

Nobody broke into my downstairs bathroom and left a hair on my toothbrush.

Conrad

Although

Pete Chwaba

that would be pretty diabolical.

Conrad

Well, let's just say I was out of the house last night.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah, you don't live anywhere near me.

Conrad

Over

Pete Chwaba

there at Geriatric Central getting your heat turned up

Conrad

by the

Pete Chwaba

downstairs neighbor.

Conrad

I took a sleigh ride last night.

Did you?

All the way to Marinette.

So I could put some air into it.

I'm going to ride with Santa.

There

Pete Chwaba

you go.

I don't have any idea what I did with all my notes.

All right.

So that's all fun.

And then the last hour, folks, we've got more live music in the studio.

And really, I'm so excited to have Steve on the show.

I've been wanting to have him on the show for well over a year, but he's a very busy guy touring with his band and doing all sorts of stuff.

And I just found out he's a huge Packer fan.

So he and Conrad can commiserate over what happened last weekend.

if it comes up.

But either way, Steve will be here in person.

Our question of the night.

Conn, I think we just need to reintroduce it.

Let's do it.

Nightlight question of the night.

Here it comes.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Pete Chwaba

What is your favorite part?

Or what is your favorite pre-Christmas activity?

Or Hanukkah?

Kwanza?

Festivus, whatever you celebrate, what is your favorite pre-holiday activity?

I said putting up the tree.

I like to do that after Thanksgiving when the kids are home.

Put the lights in there, argue with my wife a little bit.

It's all part of the action.

I like Christmas movies when the kids are home and Christmas music until about three days ago.

I've officially become sick of Christmas music.

What did you say again?

Conrad

Well, you know, grabbing a cup of gel.

A cup of gel.

Watching some Christmas films.

Pete Chwaba

And your favorite is Christmas vacation.

That is very true.

I would say we haven't talked very much about Christmas vacation other than those two days last week when we had some pushback on whether or not it was a good movie.

From Boris

Conrad

Hamilton.

Yeah, that just grinded my gears over

Pete Chwaba

here.

I didn't really totally disagree with them.

I still like it.

I feel like it's comfort food.

I

Conrad

mean, it's just I always watch over here because I the same laughs that happen.

I still laugh at him.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah, same Cain either.

I'm not expecting that but like Ben

Conrad

said,

Pete Chwaba

you know Chevy Chase was supposed to play Tim Allen's character in the Santa Claus I might have liked that a little better

Conrad

Honestly, I think that would have been pretty good.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah And what was the other one?

He said that Chevy Chase is

Conrad

toy story toy story.

I don't that I disagree.

I don't see him as buzz

No, not buzzer not buzzer No, no,

Pete Chwaba

no Tom Hanks was always gonna play Woody.

Conrad

That's a that's a

Pete Chwaba

play tone film I believe so you're right It has to have been buzz that Chevy Chase would

Conrad

have

Pete Chwaba

yes

instead of Tim

Allen again And he probably would have been good But I actually think Tim Allen works really well in the in the buzz character there could fly around this room with my eyes closed That was my buzz like your impression.

Conrad

That was

Pete Chwaba

great

So our question of the night let us know folks.

What is your favorite pre holiday activity?

What do you like in the build-up?

What do you like to do?

We'll get you excited about the holiday because it is three two days away really And tomorrow is Christmas Eve so very exciting stuff and We are we are here for you Susan from McFarland in the 608 says hey Pete and Conrad with a K. Oh, that was nice.

Thank you

many shoutouts like that

Just want to thank you for putting on a great show every night, and I hope that you have a wonderful holiday season with your families.

Well, thank you, Susan.

Conrad

Very nice to hear.

Thank

Pete Chwaba

you.

Yeah.

My favorite part of Christmas is purchasing gifts for other people and watching them open the gifts.

Also, Pete, if you want a good show, it's called This Is Christmas, and it's on Prime.

It's really nice.

It's a really nice show, and I think you'll enjoy it.

Thank you, Susan.

I wish more people would share what they're watching, because I asked guests that, like, what do you binge watching, but...

It's always nice to hear people just offer up show suggestions, because I am always looking for stuff to watch.

So thank you very much, Susan.

Brett from Brown Dear wanted to specify, 920 is my old area code I've had for 15 years.

I drove down to Illinois, one hour from my house.

I still have an 818 area code.

So I get it, Brett.

Your phone number is like a social security number.

You can't give it up.

Because then people won't be able to find you

Conrad

down the road.

I did change my number like two years ago now.

Pete Chwaba

Really?

Yeah.

I

Conrad

remember that actually, because I think

Pete Chwaba

I still have your old number programmed in my phone.

Conrad

Yeah, and you're like, who's this guy?

He's next to me.

Pete Chwaba

Conrad's party line, right?

Carla from the 810.

I don't even know where that is.

Is that Pennsylvania maybe?

But she lives in Madison now, so that works.

Carla says, my husband and I put on our PJs and get hot chocolate and drive around and look at Christmas lights and sometimes go through, did I read this one?

No, I did not.

And go through the Olin Park Christmas.

Oh, that was because we had another texture that said they drove through Olin Park in Madison.

That must be the place in Madison for Christmas lights.

Carla continues as for a movie for you to watch.

My new favorite is Noel.

I don't know that movie.

And I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Another awesome suggestion.

Conrad

That movie actually seen it's on Disney Plus, I believe, and it's with.

Bill Hader and Anna Kendrick.

It's actually, it's a funny film.

Pete Chwaba

Oh, very cool.

Thank you for the suggestion.

Much appreciated.

Ren from Madison says, writing notes in Christmas cards while enjoying an Irish coffee or nice red wine.

Sounds like as long as there's alcohol involved, Ren is all over it.

And you could get carried away writing a letter.

when you're under the influence.

Let me just say, thank you, Ren.

John from the 608 says, hi, Peter and Conrad, happy holidays to you and yours.

Thank you, John.

I'm Christmas Eve, my 25 year old daughter, mom, and I will eat a nice dinner, open one gift of our choosing, turn on It's a Wonderful Life and lounge and talk.

That sounds fantastic.

He says, then we play Scrabble.

My daughter always wins.

She's an English major writer, editor, and she shows it off at the game.

The thing that I secretly love the most about the game is the Gen Z blank 20 mile stare.

I get it from Shannon.

When I walk the board into the room and announce game on, do you know this look, Peter?

Yes, I do, John, because I was recently made aware of this.

It's called the Gen Z stare.

And it's when you're talking to a person in your generator, your Gen Z right, Con?

Conrad

I think so.

Pete Chwaba

I don't really get this from you because you're, you're at work when you're here, but sometimes they just stare at you.

Like they don't have any comprehensive, like they don't know what you're saying.

Conrad

I'm doing that all the time when you're

Pete Chwaba

talking.

You do, but that's because of limited intelligence.

I'm kidding, of course.

So I totally get that, John.

I think that's hilarious.

And I was an English major too.

I'm sure your daughter is much brighter than me because I don't win a Scrabble.

So,

but

have a good time.

That's a great text.

Kurt from Madison says, OMG, you would never survive boot camp.

Well, that's true.

But what is he referring to, Conrad?

Conrad

He was referring to the hair.

We were talking about, you know, we went like with the food Oh the hair on my

Pete Chwaba

toothbrush,

Conrad

but the but the burger Oh the hair in the burger you would eat that you would eat around the pizza I went back again So what is he

Pete Chwaba

saying boot camp is just like they just throw bodily Particles in

Conrad

your

Pete Chwaba

food.

Maybe okay

Guess I need to toughen up.

Thanks, Kurt.

Appreciate it.

Steve from Florida says, one pre-Christmas activity I used to love and miss when the boys were young was going little Debbie snacks, Christmas shopping.

I would line up, I would line from their rooms to the Christmas tree, little Debbie treats to set up

Conrad

the enthusiasm for

Pete Chwaba

one day.

Is that true, Count?

It's true.

That's a great

Conrad

memory.

That's why I really don't eat little Debbie's anymore.

Pete Chwaba

Just got sick of

Conrad

him.

I had too many

Pete Chwaba

of

Conrad

them.

You

Pete Chwaba

had to eat your way to the

Conrad

Christmas

Pete Chwaba

tree.

Thank you, Steve.

Ross from Crawford County in the 608 says, free Christmas activities used to be a rewatching Peanuts Christmas story or it's a wonderful life, but now I like watching Christmas movies that I've never seen before.

I'm kind of with you, Ross, because I've got a lot I need to see.

He says this year was Christmas holiday, 1944, directed by Robert Seadmack.

I don't know who that is, starring Gene Kelly and Deanna Durbin.

Awesome text.

Thank you Ross and then Steve from Florida.

Oh, we already read that one Bridget says I like thinking Bridget's in the 818 also She says I like thinking of gifts and watching holiday movies and my favorite is listening to Christmas songs Three exclamation points Conrad.

She means business.

Yeah Conrad's mom says making gingerbread cookies while listening to Christmas music

Conrad

There's some good gingerbread

Pete Chwaba

cookies.

Outstanding stuff.

One final text for now,

Conrad

then

Pete Chwaba

we're caught up.

Mark says, I've been binging on Christmas movies.

Have a number on DVD and Blu-ray.

Several versions of a Christmas Carol, Alistair Sim version is one of the best.

The original miracle on 34th Street in black and white is the best version.

Awesome stuff, you guys.

Keep those texts coming.

What is your favorite pre-Christmas activity?

Dave.

on the stream also wished us a happy Festivus.

Do we have time to play the Festivus clip?

Conrad

We got

Pete Chwaba

a jam.

I think we can do it.

Conrad

Yeah, we can do it.

Let's get in

Pete Chwaba

as much as we can.

Happy Festivus, everybody.

This comes to us from Civic Media's Savannah Tome Olsen, a great nugget about Festivus.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

For fans of the show about nothing, December 23rd is a holiday, and the ultimate thing to have is the poll.

Conrad

A festivus for the rest of us.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

In 1997, an episode of Seinfeld aired that sparked traditions still celebrated decades later.

Bob Wagner

It's made from aluminum.

very high strength to weight ratio.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

In 2005, staff at Wagner Metalworks in Milwaukee thought, hey, we could make a Festivus poll.

So they did.

In

Bob Wagner

those first years, we were selling a couple thousand a year.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

CEO Bob Wagner says, even when it's not December, you can always find one around here.

It sounds like the polls have.

a life of their own around here.

Bob Wagner

Mine does.

It's up here around in my office.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

He's had people from as far away as Australia order one, paying $24 for the poll and three times that just to ship it.

Bob Wagner

It shows the reach of television.

It shows the reach of the shows.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

There's even one in the state capital and former Governor Jim Doyle was a huge Festivus fan.

Bob Wagner

I heard Governor Doyle enjoyed Festivus.

And so I sent him one at the State House.

Because it was a gift, he couldn't take it with him.

After he left, he sent me a check for the cost of a Festivus poll and I sent him.

another copy.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

Wagner owns the copyright to the term Festivus Poll.

They're the only ones in the country who can use it.

Bob Wagner

In order to use Festivus Poll, they had to get approval from us.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

Still, you can find all kinds of Festivus items that don't use that special phrase.

A friend sent me a tiny little kit, so I had to show it to Bob.

Bob Wagner

I've never seen this one before.

I love it.

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

Seinfeld has been off the air nearly 25 years, but Festivus lives on.

Bob Wagner

It's such a clever invention that it has created a life of its own

Savannah Tome Olsen (reporter)

in Milwaukee.

Steve March Tormé

Hey, this is John Legend, and you're listening to Night

Pete Schwabba

Light with Pete

Steve March Tormé

Schwabba.

Welcome

Pete Schwabba

back.

This is Night Light.

I am Pete Schwabba.

It is great to have you here, folks, on this... It's the eve of Christmas Eve.

And that is a very-

Steve March Tormé

It's

Pete Schwabba

Christmas Eve, Eve.

It is.

It's almost better than Christmas Eve, because Christmas Eve is typically crazy.

You're running around like a maniac, so I'm gonna enjoy tonight.

I got a Christmas movie waiting for me.

My daughter said I could pick it out, so go figure.

But right now, we've got a lot more show left, folks, and I guess I'm about to introduce that I'm very excited to have on the show.

I've been trying to have this guy on for a year.

Not really trying, but I knew of you, Steve, and I wanted to

Steve March Tormé

have you on, and I reached

Pete Schwabba

out.

I didn't know if you checked Facebook.

I didn't know what was going on, but we've got him here tonight.

He is a very talented singer, songwriter, band leader.

He's mastered many music genres, and now he leads his own 13-piece band called Steam, making his first appearance on Nightlight as Mr. Steve March Tormé.

Hey, Steve.

Thank you, sir.

Thanks for having me.

Steve March Tormé

So how do you know about me?

Pete Schwabba

You know, I have,

Steve March Tormé

I'm on statewide.

Stumbled on me somehow.

Pete Schwabba

No, not at all.

You came highly recommended.

Like, I have a lot of live entertainment on the show periodically.

I talk about entertainment every night.

And I probably had someone from Appledon that told me about you.

Steve March Tormé

And I was like, you gotta be kidding me.

That's great.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, absolutely.

So I have to ask you first, how you were in my hood recently.

Which

Steve March Tormé

is where?

Pete Schwabba

Marinette, Wisconsin.

Steve March Tormé

Yes.

An hour north at the Community Red Center.

A couple of days ago.

Yeah.

How did that go?

Great, great.

We've played Marinette.

This is at least our third time, probably our fourth.

And we always talk about, yeah, we got the concert on the pickleball court tonight.

Because it is, you know what I'm talking about.

It's a rec center.

There's a big artificial grass field so my

Pete Schwabba

good place for a

Steve March Tormé

concert.

Yes, well, but that's not we do we do it in the the area that's on concrete They put up a big stage.

We had about 600 people and then my friend Michael Murphy who's the guitar player in the group I always bring a football and we go over to the artificial turf and we just play football for about a half an hour and get nice and sweaty before we sing

which is nice in your suit.

Pete Schwabba

That would almost give like a park outdoor concert if you did it in the turf room.

I think that would be kind of cool too.

But then, you know, if you take a break in the courts, you can go up and dunk

Steve March Tormé

between sets.

Yes, it was fun.

I like that place.

And the guy that hosts us every year is really nice and it is for a good cause.

And loading is a little tough.

It's cold.

You got snow and ice and your dragging equipment.

But the people are very nice.

And we really had a great time, Marinette.

Like I said, at least our third year of Matter of Fourth.

Pete Schwabba

That's so great.

Steve March Tormé

And this

Pete Schwabba

show is kids from 1 to 92.

Steve March Tormé

Four kids from 1 to 92.

We've taken the line from Dad's song.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

So tell us about that.

Where else do you perform that show?

Anywhere people will have you or?

Yes.

Steve March Tormé

I don't mean it like that.

No, but you're right.

Wherever they'll put up with us.

That's a great festive show.

Yeah.

We did 11 concerts this last month.

The only one out of state was Olawai in Iowa.

But we started, I think we started at the pack in Fox Cities, which is where I live in Appleton.

And we did the Fox Cities Performing Arts Center.

We did two nights at the Thelma State Center for the Arts in Fond du Lac.

We were in Wausau.

We were in Marinette.

We were in Olawai in Iowa.

Where are I?

Gosh, I'm trying.

Oh, Elkhart Lake.

That was great, because we stayed at the Osthof.

Oh, very nice.

That resort is beautiful.

Yeah.

Yeah, so 11 concerts, the Grand in Oshkosh two nights.

Great.

And great audiences, and, you know, we're very lucky.

We fill the place up and they love the show, so, you know, knock on wood.

And I love that

Pete Schwabba

it's like kind of jazz, right?

You got this big...

Steve March Tormé

Well, it's all over the place.

Yeah.

It's all over the place.

It's jazz, it's pop, it's...

some TSO stuff, you know, Trans-Siberian.

Okay.

It's really, there's an acapella tune.

There's kind of a New Orleans jazz tune.

It is all over.

I get to sing a song that was originally recorded by Charles Brown and redone by the Eagles called Please Come Home for Christmas.

You know, Bells Will Be Ringing, Sad News.

And I get to play electric guitar, so I'm a happy boy.

And we do Little Drummer Boy.

with five drummers out in front on stage, including myself.

So the show is extremely varied, which is my favorite part about it.

I don't want to see an hour and a half of okay.

Well the same thing I just saw 20 minutes ago Yeah, so I'm I'm proud of the show.

I think it's pretty cool But it's

Pete Schwabba

a big sound 13 pieces.

Yeah, and some of these smaller towns probably are not used to seeing

Steve March Tormé

they're

Pete Schwabba

not I know we used to have the Milwaukee Symphony used to come up to Menominee and play this auditorium Which is great.

They don't do that anymore.

They get you know rock cover bands that kind

Steve March Tormé

of

Pete Schwabba

stuff Maybe some occasional original music with 13 pieces.

What a fun night for people.

Steve March Tormé

Yeah, and everybody can play.

I mean, it's not like oh

Okay, a bunch of Wisconsin garage band.

No, right.

These are people that, you know, graduated from Lawrence.

They're really good musicians.

Pete Schwabba

How did you put that band together and when did you put them

Steve March Tormé

together?

Well, my friend Michael Bailey and I put this band together.

He's he was in a band for 35 years called Vic Ferrari and a lot of people in this area know Vic Ferrari.

They're a cover band and Michael and I got together a few years ago.

The way he tells it's not quite accurate.

He says he was a teacher at St.

Mary's.

And he said, so this guy walks into my school and says, I want to be in a band with you.

And I said, who the hell are you?

I go, that's not quite how it happened.

I don't go driving around to high schools.

Maybe you have a music director.

Can I come in?

So somehow he and I ended up together.

And I've never really wanted to be in a cover band.

It's not my thing.

I'm a solo artist.

I write.

I like doing original material.

But I said, if I'm going to do a cover band for fun, let's do a cover band that plays the songs that people don't hear every day.

But they don't hear at every wedding.

I have no interest in that.

I don't want to get on stage and sing Stand By Me.

Go to a wedding.

So we do stuff that people hear and go, oh my gosh, I love that song.

I haven't heard that in years, like Lonely Boy by Andrew Gold.

Oh,

Pete Schwabba

nice.

Steve March Tormé

Cool tune.

Great song.

Yeah, and they go, I know that song.

How can I be sure by the rascals?

Again, I'm not going to do Groovin' because we've all heard it.

So the whole idea is to do songs that

I know we can sing that I know we can harmonize on and people will go Wow, that's cool.

We didn't expect that that was a whole

Pete Schwabba

idea Steve March tour may is here folks.

He talked that you mentioned your dad Well, we'll tell people who your dad is after the news because that's a pretty cool story too But I just heard Chevy van the other day and I actually loved remember that song from the 70s gonna love you in my Chevy van

Steve March Tormé

Oh, yeah, yeah All right, so Steve

Pete Schwabba

is here.

We're gonna break for the news and we'll be right back.

He's actually he's gonna sing

A song his,

Steve March Tormé

uh... I

Pete Schwabba

am?

Oh my god.

Better start warming

Steve March Tormé

up.

Alright.

Pete Schwabba

Alright, we're coming right back.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so delightful.

Welcome back.

Since we've no place to go.

All right, we are jamming through a Tuesday night edition of Nightlight Broadcasting Live statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay.

What could be better, folks?

Christmas is right around the corner.

And we're talking about the things and life that make us happy.

Movies, TV, comedy, music.

and all the fun stuff happening in Wisconsin this time of year.

Steve March Torme (guest)

Joining me.

And the food that we're gonna eat over the holidays, which we shouldn't.

What are you gonna eat, Steve?

More stuff than I should.

Yeah, same old, you know, mac and cheese, turkey, desserts.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That is the voice of Steve March Torme, who joins me here in the studio.

He is a crooner, a master of many genres.

He is one of the leaders of the band, Steam.

They play all over Wisconsin and they will go to Iowa, right?

Steve March Torme (guest)

You went to Iowa?

Yeah, we were in Olawine, Iowa, which is not far from the field of dreams.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, when we went last year, I went, I checked it out.

Now, of course, in winter, the field of dreams isn't quite as alluring.

It's covered in snow.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Hockey rink of dreams,

Steve March Torme (guest)

yeah.

That's right.

There was no Kevin Costner there.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Steve, you...

You have a famous dad a famous crooner and you mentioned your father in the previous segment and tell us about Mel Torme and How how did he influence you because a lot of people won't follow their very famous parent into That line of work you did that must have been somewhat intimidating a

Steve March Torme (guest)

very very good question Which I will clear up immediately so Mel Torme is my my

real father, my birth father, and a wonderful musician, terrific singer, drummer, arranger, writer, all that stuff.

But my folks got divorced when I was two and a half, so I never really lived with Mel Torme.

My mom married a guy who at the time was better known than Mel Torme was in the entertainment field.

His name was Hal March, and Hal was the host of the $64,000 question show.

which was a huge television show.

And then he was on Broadway in a play called Come Blow Your Horn, a very, very talented guy.

And he's the person that got me into sports.

When I was a kid, I wanted to be a Major League Baseball player.

That's been my first love from the beginning.

It's been baseball.

So when people ask me, so what's it like being Mel's son and all these musicians you were around?

And did you meet Count Basie and Ella?

No, I was around Hal's friends who were all the Borscht belt comedians.

So our dinner parties every weekend were Jan Murray, Lucille Ball, Milton Burl, Buddy Hackett,

Pete Schwabba (host)

Jack

Steve March Torme (guest)

Carter.

This is who I was around all the time because Hal had a great sense of humor and he was funny and he liked, my mom and dad liked having dinner parties and having these people over.

Why wouldn't you?

You're gonna laugh all night.

So being a little kid, I had to be in bed by nine o'clock and

I'm in my bedroom.

I'm, you know, 11 years old, and I'm going and listening to the door.

And after dinner, they would all go in the living room and start, you know, drinking some chevice.

Announcer

And

Steve March Torme (guest)

they'd all start competing with each other.

And it just got dirtier and dirtier, you know.

Pete Schwabba (host)

But he had

Steve March Torme (guest)

these two Jews walk into our bar and I'm hearing my mom laughing.

And that's that was my childhood, which doesn't mean I wasn't influenced by my real dad.

I'm I'm thankful that I think I have some of his genes and hopefully a good ear.

Yeah.

but I was really not influenced by him, but I'm thankful that I had a great stepfather and a great dad.

I got lucky.

And you have both their names.

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That's why I have, that's why

Steve March Torme (guest)

I had Steve March Torme.

I wanted to honor both of them.

I was Steve March for a long time.

I said, you know, people are going to know that Mel Torme is my dad and I should get this legally changed.

So I did.

Okay.

In Wisconsin.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Nice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, all right.

I'm wondering if what's a better segue asking you how you ended up in Wisconsin?

You

Steve March Torme (guest)

know a kid born in

Pete Schwabba (host)

Manhattan Yeah, and then you lived in Beverly Hills.

You're around again That's what I got excited about when I was reading about you on

Steve March Torme (guest)

my

Pete Schwabba (host)

bio Well the bio and just it like I thought it was cool that you were Mel Torme's son But also when I saw who your stepfather was I was like

I mean, I was a nationally touring comedian for seven years, then I got lucky and sold the script.

So I kind of segwayed out of stand up, but you're always a comedian and I love comedians.

And I was so envious of you reading about who you grew up

Steve March Torme (guest)

around, you know?

Well, you know, I've been asked many times, have you ever thought about doing stand up?

I said, not for a second.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Steve March Torme (guest)

Not a chance.

That's the hardest gig in the world because you could be the worst singer in the world.

And when you finish a song, people will applaud just like, oh, this song is over.

They'll applaud.

But if you're not funny, you don't get laughs.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Steve March Torme (guest)

I mean, if you tell a joke and it's not funny, people don't go, oh, gosh, that's funny.

Right.

They'll just sit there in silence.

No one fakes a laugh.

Because we've all seen comedians bomb.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Steve March Torme (guest)

And that's brutal.

I mean, that's that's flop sweat.

If it's a friend of

Pete Schwabba (host)

yours, it's pretty funny, though, watching them bomb.

So all right.

So that's that's exciting.

But let's talk about,

Steve March Torme (guest)

you know, I got

Pete Schwabba (host)

here.

Oh, yeah.

You live in Appleton with this bicoastal upbringing.

How did you end up in Wisconsin?

Steve March Torme (guest)

I was born in Manhattan in Doctors' Hospital, which is long gone.

My mom and dad, Mel and my mom, Candy, got divorced when I was two and a half.

And she married the love of her life, really, in Halmarch.

And we moved to West Chester County.

And that was really my upbringing.

That's when I became a baseball nut, because the Yankees were my team.

Yeah, and it was those Yankees team.

It was the great Yankees teams There's a whole nother story with that with myself and Tony Kubek, but we

Pete Schwabba (host)

don't have

Steve March Torme (guest)

time, but we'll see okay, so anyway We lived in Westchester County one day my mom and dad announced What do you think about that?

We're moving to Beverly Hills.

I went what I just got I just got Patsy Bloom to notice me the girl that was in

Pete Schwabba (host)

our dancing.

She

Steve March Torme (guest)

noticed me finally

They said, well, we're moving to Beverly Hills.

I said, but I hear all the kids there are snobby and they have stingray bikes.

I don't want to move there.

I didn't have a lot of a lot of pull in this.

So we had five.

I've got four brothers and sisters that were one full tour may my sister Melissa and my mom and Hal had three other kids that were marches.

So the five of us moved out to Los Angeles to Beverly Hills.

And the first guy I met there was a knock at our door.

We'd been there about, I don't know, a week.

And there's a knock at our door and we open up my desk and we can hear a man in the house open the door.

I was 12.

And I opened the door and there's this kind of kind of chubby, good looking kid, my age, obviously.

And I said, hi.

He goes, hi, I'm Desi.

I'm going, oh, I'm Steve.

And Desi Ernest, Jr.

became the first.

What?

Person that I met.

Wow.

Because Lucy lived to block up the street.

And next to Lucy lived Jack Benny.

And next to Jack Benny lived Jimmy Stewart.

This was the block we were on.

And so when people asked me.

What's it like?

Well, to me, it was just normal because I didn't think about it.

I'm just kind of growing up there.

I went to school with those guys with Dean Martin Jr., Dino, Lorraine Newman

Pete Schwabba (host)

from

Steve March Torme (guest)

Saturday Night and I was in my class.

What's her name?

I'm going too fast.

From Star Wars.

Oh, Princess Leia.

Yes.

Come on, Carrie Fisher.

Yeah, Carrie Fisher was in my class.

So these were the kids that went to Beverly Hills High School.

And again,

I don't even think about it, we just kind of went there.

And I got lucky because my stepfather was not a disciplinarian, but he was a really good dad.

And there was no way he was going to let me go off the rails.

Not a

Pete Schwabba (host)

chance.

Wow, nice.

Steve March Torme (guest)

So, you know, these kids were driving expensive exotic cars.

He said, you're not doing that.

You want to buy a car?

You go to work and earn it.

So I'm thankful for that.

Because I could have spiraled out quickly and I didn't so thanks to my stepdad for

Pete Schwabba (host)

that Steve March tour may is my guest here in the nightlight studio for the first time And we're talking about his upbringing and some of his music and all the famous people he grew up around I carry Fisher actually

When we lived in Valley Village, she lived across the street from us.

I thought that was like the

Steve March Torme (guest)

coolest

Pete Schwabba (host)

thing.

Valley Village

Steve March Torme (guest)

in

Pete Schwabba (host)

LA.

In LA, yeah.

In the Valley?

In the Valley.

She lived in- I know Valley Villages.

Yeah.

Of

course I do.

Oh, it's everybody.

A ton of people.

It's not Beverly Hills,

but we had- No, it's on the other side of the hill.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And I was like, we found that out like the first week we moved there.

It's like, what?

That's like the coolest thing ever.

Steve March Torme (guest)

And I was sorry.

Barry White

Pete Schwabba (host)

lived in Valley Village.

Probably didn't know that.

Barry White?

Yeah, he had a house there.

Wow.

Well, it's so funny because that's like blue collar

Steve March Torme (guest)

LA houses by the

Pete Schwabba (host)

time we left were million.

Oh, sure.

Three bedroom in a bath and a half.

Yeah.

1.5 million.

Steve March Torme (guest)

Well, when I moved out to Wisconsin to Appleton, I mean, the going joke was in West LA was, well, what do you want for 1.5?

Yeah.

And we know we're I'm telling the truth here.

Fixer.

Yeah.

Absolutely worth the demolish the kitchen in 1.5.

I'm sorry.

I hope you're handy.

The prices are astronomical.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Ridiculous.

Occasionally, for a while, my wife would talk about going back.

I'm like, you can't.

Once you leave

Steve March Torme (guest)

that money, you can't really.

You're priced

Pete Schwabba (host)

out.

Yeah, it's hard to go back unless

Steve March Torme (guest)

you sell

Pete Schwabba (host)

something or whatever.

Steve March Torme (guest)

Exactly.

You're going to live in a really crummy part of the valley for about $650,000.

Right.

Exactly.

You're right.

Put coin up.

Thank you.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So how do you like Appleton?

It's very different from either coast.

Steve March Torme (guest)

Very much so.

Yeah.

moved out my wife's family mom and dad live in Berlin okay Berlin Wisconsin which is about I don't know 18 19 minutes west of Oshkosh is a town of 5300 when we talked about that when we were in we were living in a decent townhouse in in Santa Monica not posh yeah but nice you know and fairly expensive we were lucky to have it

And my wife one day said, what do you think about the idea of us moving closer to mom and dad?

Because we would come out and spend time with her parents.

And we had just had our first child.

And my brothers and sisters are displaced.

They're all over the place.

We had no help with our baby.

And my mom and dad were gone.

And I said, what do you mean living in Wisconsin?

Because what do you think about moving there?

I said, hun.

I like visiting mom and dad, but I don't see me living on a property with silos.

That's just not me.

I'm from Manhattan.

Come on.

And we made a pros and cons list and realized, you know what?

From what I do for a living, which is doing concerts and singing, I can do it from the middle of the country.

It'll be easier to go to East Coast and West Coast than it will be to go all the way from LA to Florida or New York and come all the way back.

I convinced myself, okay, let's go out to Wisconsin.

Maybe, maybe we could actually own a house.

one day,

Pete Schwabba (host)

which we had

Steve March Torme (guest)

no chance of in Los Angeles.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Right.

Just

Steve March Torme (guest)

too expensive.

Yeah.

And that's how we ended up there.

We ended up moving to Berlin, Wisconsin.

We bought my wife's grandparents house.

They both passed away recently, but the house is up and sold yet.

We bought it and fixed it up, made a little bit of money.

And then we started looking around, you know, what would be a nice place to live.

And everybody said, check out Appleton.

Yeah, they've got good schools.

It's pretty safe.

It's a nice area.

And there's a bar every 12 feet,

Pete Schwabba (host)

which I didn't really care about, but it's the truth.

You don't have to drive.

If you've been to College Avenue in Appleton, not unlike

Steve March Torme (guest)

Rain Bay.

Right.

And that's how we ended up in Appleton.

I like it.

I mean, my two daughters have gone to school there.

They went through the Appleton school system, which surprisingly, which is unfair for me to say, is pretty good.

Yeah.

The school system's pretty good.

I mean, they went to Appleton North, which is a good elementary school.

and they're out of high school and both my girls are in college now.

Wow.

That went by really quickly.

Yeah, no kids.

So you've been here, they were young,

Pete Schwabba (host)

so you've

Steve March Torme (guest)

been here 15-ish.

I've been here at least 19

Pete Schwabba (host)

years.

Okay, 19 years, wow.

Oh my God.

It's a very,

Steve March Torme (guest)

like- How's that, I'm only 32 years old, how did that

Pete Schwabba (host)

happen?

You have that, you have that look about you that, and I don't want to say it's like an LA thing, but like, you look younger than you are.

I sold my soul.

Steve March Torme (guest)

You're 94.

I sold my soul to the devil a long time ago.

Pete Schwabba (host)

But it is an easy place to live, right?

Like you've

Steve March Torme (guest)

got

Pete Schwabba (host)

northeast Wisconsin.

You've got some culture.

You've got I agree.

Steve March Torme (guest)

There's a

Pete Schwabba (host)

bustle here.

It's not

Steve March Torme (guest)

it's not a college town Lawrence University makes a big difference

Pete Schwabba (host)

exactly

Steve March Torme (guest)

if it was just a you know a little Berg in Wisconsin be different, but it's a that school is very good Gets very good teachers good musicians Yeah, Apple.

It's got a foxy's performing arts center.

Yeah, just legit sure I mean they it's not just a name is there three years ago.

It was

Pete Schwabba (host)

great

other places and it was just as good like it's fantastic

Steve March Torme (guest)

and they get local acts you know they get Diana Ross they get the temptations they get people that are touring Broadway

Pete Schwabba (host)

shows fantastic

Steve March Torme (guest)

all

Pete Schwabba (host)

right Steve March Dormais here in the studio when we come back he is gonna sing a classic for us he's already agreed to do this before I paid him did I pay you

Steve March Torme (guest)

what are we'll get to that okay is it the price just

Pete Schwabba (host)

went up

Conrad, go to the petty cash.

Steve March Torme (guest)

And when I say petty,

Pete Schwabba (host)

I

Steve March Torme (guest)

mean really

Pete Schwabba (host)

petty.

We're coming right back to close this thing down with our new pal, Steve March Torme.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

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Pete Schwab

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Night Light.

We are in the home stretch here, folks, on our last live show of the week.

But...

For the rest of the week, you'll have the soothing voice of Lou Ragani, and he is going to be playing the Christmas music of the stars to fill your holiday coffers for the next three days.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

We'll be back live next Monday.

Steve March Torme is here.

He is a musician, singer, songwriter, band leader, all kinds of stuff.

He is the master of all musical genres.

And our pal Terry Barr who we do bar ban Friday night with here is listening and she says this interview with Steve March tour may is awesome Great stories.

Thank you, Terry.

I love when Terry's listening to the show So you you're talking about all these people you grew up around Steve and I find that fascinating but also

I'm sure at some point they're just people they're your neighbors and that's what you're used to so you still went into this crazy business with a famous father and a famous stepfather and Was that intimidating?

How did you that takes a lot of guts in a way?

Steve March Torme

Yeah, and again when people have asked me about that they said does it You know, what's it like having that last name?

I said well to be honest with you if you have a famous last name

and you're not very good at what you do, it's not going to matter.

It's not going to help you one bit.

And if you have a famous last name and you're good at what you do, it's not going to matter.

You're just going to do it.

So I do my homework.

And I mean, the last thing I want to do is get on stage and have people say, well, he's OK, but he ain't no Mel Torme.

I mean, the guy, I heard some flat notes there, and his intonation isn't so good.

His timing isn't that good.

I've never tried to be like my dad.

There's no reason to.

He

Pete Schwab

did what

Steve March Torme

he did, and he was very good at it.

I do what I do and try to be as good at it as I can.

And again, if you got a famous last name, it's up to you to do what you do best.

And to be brutally honest with you, I can't do anything else.

Pete Schwab

I really

Steve March Torme

can't.

I mean, I'm a performer and I sing and I write.

I play piano.

I play guitar.

I wanted to be a baseball player.

I was pretty good, but not good enough to be a pro.

So it was like, this is what I enjoy doing.

So that's a simple answer.

That's

Pete Schwab

great.

And as an artist, all you have is yourself.

Whether it's a comedian, artist, or musician, your point of view, what you bring to it, that's what makes you special.

You have

Steve March Torme

to sell you.

Pete Schwab

We're not

Steve March Torme

selling shoes.

Pete Schwab

They can

Steve March Torme

speak of themselves.

You can be a horrible human being.

But I like those shoes.

But when you're in the entertainment business, you have to sell you constantly.

And that's tricky.

You know, you don't want to alienate people, you want to be true to yourself, so it's interesting.

I'm preaching to the choir, you know this.

Pete Schwab

Yeah.

You know, sometimes selling shoes, though, doesn't sound like that.

Hey, you offered to sing this earlier.

I would love it if you sang the song your dad made famous, the Christmas song.

The acapella, which is very impressive.

Steve March Torme

So, I wrote a song not to compete with dad.

It's a song that we do in all of our shows.

And we played on 91.1 the Avenue.

They're playing it right now, as a matter of fact, during the holiday season called I Remember Christmastime, which was a reminiscence of kind of looking back on my life when I was living in Berlin and saying, you were born in Manhattan.

I mean, you met Mickey Mantle at Toot Shores.

You lived in Beverly Hills, and now you're living in Berlin, Wisconsin, population of 5,300, and you have two young daughters.

And I was at a park with my girls.

And I was hearing them laughing.

I started thinking about how different my life had become.

And

Pete Schwab

it was

Steve March Torme

good.

It was like, oh, this is great.

My girls feel safe.

They're secure.

And that's how that song came about.

Dad's song.

And some people might not know this story.

In 1945, it was one of the hottest summers in the history of Los Angeles County.

And July, do you have two seconds for this?

Pete Schwab

Yeah, listen, we're done at eight o'clock on the nose.

But whatever one you want, if something's personal to you, go for that route too.

I'll tell

Steve March Torme

afterwards, okay?

Pete Schwab

Okay.

So

Steve March Torme

here's the song that dad wrote.

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire Jack Frost nipping at your nose Yuletide carols being sung by a choir And folks dressed up like Eskimos Everybody knows a turkey and some mistletoe Will help to make the season bright

Tiny tots with their eyes all aglow.

We'll find it hard to sleep tonight.

They know that Santa's on his way.

He's loaded lots of toys and goodies on his sleigh.

And every mother's child is gonna spy To see if reindeer really know how to fly And so I'm offering this simple phrase To kids from 1 to 92 Although it's been said many times, many ways Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to you.

Wow.

And that's the song.

So, dad,

Pete Schwab

so 1945, we

Steve March Torme

go a couple of seconds.

There were a couple of Jewish songwriters that were getting together to write a song.

Famous guys, Sammy Kahn and Julie Stein.

Yeah.

And it was two weeks before that song was written, and it was on a very hot day in Los Angeles.

And they're working on this song, and Julie Stein said to Sammy Kahn, you've got a convertible.

Let's drive to Santa Monica.

I'm sweating.

I'm miserable.

We'll get some fresh air.

We'll come back and finish the song.

Sammy Kahn said, we're so close.

Let's finish it now.

Let's stay here.

And they did.

And those two Jewish songwriters wrote, let it snow, let it snow on that day.

Oh, wow.

Pete Schwab

Two weeks later,

Steve March Torme

dad had a writing session with Bob Wells, his partner and songwriter.

And they didn't know what they were going to write.

And dad went over to Bob Wells.

his house in the San Fernando Valley, which is usually 10 to 15 degrees hotter than West LA, as you know.

And he went up to the front door and he knocked on the front door and no answer.

He walked inside and he could hear that the shower was going.

Bob was showering at nine o'clock in the morning to kind of stay cool.

Dad saw a piece of paper on the piano, had four lines of lyrics on it.

Bob walked out of the shower.

Dad looked at him and said, Bob.

at least put on a towel.

That's

Pete Schwab

not really what he said.

What he really said

Steve March Torme

was, I think we have a song here and that day two weeks after, let us know, let us know, Bob Wells and Mel Tormey wrote the Christmas song.

Pete Schwab

That is gorgeous and what a great way to

Come back, please, and sing your song, too.

I would love that.

I'd be more happy.

Steve March Dormais.

What a great way to go into the holidays.

Put it on the towel.

Thank you, sir.

Thanks to Ben Reiser and 7,000 Apart and Ellen Burling.

Thanks for all your texts and calls.

Merry Christmas.

Happy holidays, everyone, on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.

I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.

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