Hollywood Tales and Holiday Laughter (Hour 2)

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Hollywood Tales and Holiday Laughter (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Dec 22, 2025

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who never leaves the house without wearing a cup, Pete Chwaba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Hey great to have you and happy Monday everybody or should I say it's finally Monday.

So glad to be back on the air with so much to discuss after an incredible weekend.

So much going on with the holidays.

We have got a lot to get to so thank God we have three hours to do it and it is great to have you here.

Phone lines are always open, folks.

Be part of the show 855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic.

Let me know what's on your mind throughout the course of the show and participate.

Conrad Krieger is here tonight as per usual.

I don't understand why people always say that as per usual.

Per usual?

I am here.

But you could just say as usual.

As usual.

Yeah, without throwing it in that extra word.

Anyway, how are you, Conrad?

I'm good.

I'm good.

Yeah.

We've got, you just brought something up, right?

And it will definitely talk Packer bear stuff because I know that's probably still on people's mind.

It was an unbelievable game.

It did not end well for Packer fans, obviously, and the Packers are pretty banged up, but we're going to talk about all of that with Conrad, one of the hosts of Make the Call here on Civic Media and with Mike Clemens at 535.

But right now, Con, I want to ask you,

We were literally leaving the studio last Friday.

And did we ever talk about Jake Paul on the air or

was that

off the air?

No, we talked about it.

And I said, you know, I think he's going to lose one here soon.

So he can, you know, I said he

needs to.

You said, I think he's going like you actually predicted it.

I didn't.

Yeah, I thought he was going to lose one of them upcoming fights, whatever he was going to have so that he could be like, no, it's not rigged.

It's not rigged.

OK, well, me at Culpa, I thought.

It's not rigged unless he's crazy enough to tell this huge guy To break his jaw in two places.

That is insane.

He definitely lost and You know, maybe he wanted to have some plastic surgery anyway And he's like this would be a good time to get my face beat in that was insane.

I think this guy who he fought Wasn't he doesn't care about the money He wants to show people that he's a good boxer and he yeah

I

mean

when did that happen in the fight?

Like did you watch the actual fight?

I just saw highlights.

So I thought it was at like midnight Yeah, it was at like 10 or something.

So I totally missed it But I saw you know replays and stuff and I just saw the smile on His face when he was about to throw a massive haymaker

Yeah, he's kind of kind of taunting the guy a little bit

Jake Paul.

Yeah, and I'm talking about the other guy too.

He was smiling when he was about to punch him

Oh, really?

Okay, cuz I saw Jake Paul get

clocked pretty good and

then

he kind of stuck his

tongue out or

some kind of crazy thing.

You know, he's on his butt with a broken jaw in two places in two places.

That really like a broken jaw freaks me out.

I think you have to have it wired shut.

You can't eat.

Maybe he's looking for a way to keep the weight off.

I don't know.

I'm just

saying.

He did say he has to eat.

He already went through the surgery and he can't have solids for like a week.

Just a

week.

That's, I think that's what he said.

Maybe six weeks.

He said that.

That doesn't

sound that bad.

So lots to get to tonight, folks.

We had a fun show.

A lot of great guests tonight, too.

As I mentioned, Mike Clemens will be here at 535, breaking down the Packer Bear game, which was just insane the other night.

And then at 610, my pal, Paul Gannis, Paul's a really good actor.

He will be here at 610 telling a great story about Rob Reiner.

He was on the film.

with Rob, a film set with Rob Reiner and Kevin Costner.

And Paul has a great story about actually both of them, but really more Rob Reiner.

So we'll talk to Paul about that.

I'm gonna ask him to tell that story.

I think Jennifer Aniston was in the film too.

Totally slipping my mind at the moment.

But anyway, Paul will be here at 610.

We'll talk to Paul.

He also has a new project coming out at 635 tonight.

Johnny Beiner.

Madison's own, one of Madison's favorite sons, even though he is a transplant.

He has embraced Madison.

It is now his hometown.

Very funny comic.

And I know you know this, Conrad.

He was the last new stand-up comedian on the late show with David Letterman.

Before David Letterman retired, Johnny was the last guy they booked who had never done the show before.

And he crushed it.

So he's got some new stuff coming out involving a really cool thing with Nate Bargazzi.

And we'll tell you where you can see Johnny over the holidays.

And then at 7.20, we've got, this is going to be really fun.

Are you ready for this con?

You know, I like to talk a little mob stuff once in

a while.

Oh yeah, definitely.

Yeah.

And we've got the two hosts of the Milwaukee Mafia podcast.

They're going to be here.

It's gonna be a lot of fun.

I can't wait to have these guys on the show Eric and Steve will be here and we're gonna discuss Milwaukee mob ties to Hollywood that kind of stuff but focusing on the mob in Wisconsin because there's a lot of Chicago in New York talk when it comes to the mob and all that but we'll focus on that Milwaukee tonight and some some really cool stuff So they'll be here in studio and I hope they're actually not with the mob because that would be one heck of a mob hit Do you think anybody has put a price on us yet?

I don't think so

We keep

a light hearted

here.

It's pretty good.

I don't think pretty

good guys for the most part.

I think I can do my own or,

you know, there you go.

This has got me thinking about something.

Maybe Jake Paul a 1v2 us against him.

What do you think Scott?

Do you think we're going to

win?

Yeah, I think we would.

I think two grown men who are in reasonable shape could take one.

And now, you know, you just got to go low and hit them fast and hard.

That's that's my advice.

Yeah, we both go at him.

You can't so you ever do you ever notice in a movie like when there's like five guys in an alley

And then

there's like the martial artist who they'll come at him one at a time.

It's like why?

Why

would you go in and get

him?

Yeah, but it's like a movie so it's all choreographed So that that would be the mistake you and I would make with Jake Paul.

We'd have to like

I'd well you'd go in and I'd say get him

Like you didn't know what was

it?

What

was the sketch we did, we recorded?

So it was, who would win in a fight?

Between a bear?

It was a hundred people versus one silverback gorilla.

Oh, that's right.

Right, that was the thing.

Yeah.

And we actually, you know, did, we fought it.

Dude, you gotta find that.

That was kind of funny.

We fought it,

dude.

But I, you fought it.

I thought I was the one just like yelling instructions from the wings.

So...

Yeah, you're just like saying like kick it.

Get him

countered.

I'll tell your parents what happened that you fought bravely.

All right, without further ado, folks, I think it is time to get to our nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

OK, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

OK, I have

a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Tonight's question, very simply, is what's your question?

Are you pondering something in life?

Tell us what question you have.

Amanda posted this, our social media guru said, I think, what did she say?

Ask Pete or something like that?

If

you want

to ask me something, that's fine.

I have no knowledge other than my own knowledge.

But you're welcome to ask me a question.

But tell us what your question is.

What are you wondering?

You have a Christmas movie question, a philosophical life question.

You can ask any question that's been on your mind throughout the course of your life tonight, on nightlight.

I'm turning the tables, ladies and gentlemen.

And what did you say?

Kind of on social media.

Well, I thought it was a Ask Pete.

I didn't realize, you know, I asked after Jake Paul lost, do you still think it's rigged?

Oh, that's

right.

Yeah.

And I do.

But that could have been rigged separately.

That's right.

Amanda kind of took it on herself to change my question.

Well, you know, now you just got to, is it Ask Pete line tonight?

You can ask me.

Ask me anything you want.

I'll try to come up with an answer, whether I have one or not.

I had a really weird

This was interesting.

I think you know, my daughter Kate had the flu.

I had to go pick her

up

at Steven's point.

And, you know, I have two shows to do this week, two next week, the holidays.

I don't want to get sick.

So she said, you know, I'll stay here an extra day and just recuperate and make sure nobody gets sick.

Great.

Great kid.

Sure.

Well, I pick her up and I got an N-94 in the car.

I mean, talk about an incubator.

Like she's got a mask on and she's like, I feel pretty good, dad.

And I have an N95 mask on, like the heavy duty.

I went to the paint department at Menards and got one because I just don't want to get sick and I wore that the whole way home and those are brutal.

You wear one of those?

I just don't, I, you know, I used, when I was in college, I would wear, I had to go to wear a mask every day, obviously.

Oh, that's right.

For the class and stuff.

I hated it so much.

It's kind of brutal, but I was kind of like, like five years ago even more, I would have said, I got a flu shot.

I'm fine.

She had a flu shot and she got knocked on her butt like this is a bad strain going around.

I really didn't want it.

So So far I've been able to avoid and my son Bless his heart did not get a flu shot this year and he's in the house.

So we're trying to quarantine everybody.

I'm in the car I'm scared to even itch my nose under the mask because I think one little germ could get up there and I really don't want the flu this close to Christmas

Yeah, that would suck, you know the the thing about wearing mask where we live is

It's easy to get sweaty under the mask because of how warm it, you know, when you get into the car and you have the heat on.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Here's the worst part.

We had tickets to see Frank Herman's Christmas show at one o'clock on Saturday.

This is going to be my whole day.

I was going to pick up Kate.

We're going to come back.

My wife and my son were going to meet us there.

My parents, we had six tickets to the show.

And Frank does such a great job.

And I had to text him that morning and say, two of us have the flu and my parents didn't want to be around them because they're in their 80s and my dad's just getting over.

It was a nightmare.

The only one who could go to the show was me and I had to pick up my daughter.

And so she's in the car.

I'm gonna say, oh, you're fine.

I'll leave the car warm, Kate.

You can sit in the parking lot.

The show's only two hours.

Am I gonna do that?

So that threw my day into upheaval because here's my thinking con.

Here's where I was going with this.

I thought, if we see Frank's show on Saturday and then go out get a nice dinner, it's already a great day.

If the Bears dropped the second game of the year to the Packers, at least I will have already had a really good day.

So that part was canceled.

A lot of pressure on the Bear Packer game.

And then I'm watching that nightmare for two and a half, two hours and 45 minutes.

And I'm like, and I'm watching Ben Johnson get out coached by Matt LeFleur, a guy he trash talked to.

When he got the job with the Bears and I'm like, why would you why would you add that pressure to yourself?

I'm you know,

I don't

know it was brutal

Let's just say these two teams are severely banged up and it's just

Packers especially now.

Yeah,

I

mean the Bears have lost a couple guys for the season.

They whatever I've got these soft tissue injuries What is that a bruise?

I gotta say that that I don't I can't remember his name that wide receiver They got the touchdown

Like, really stepped up.

Not DJ Marr, but the other

guy.

Oh, Yaday, it looks like it's Jude, but it's pronounced Jaday.

Jaday,

uh, yeah.

The guy, he tweeted saying I was homeless like a year ago or something like

that.

He went to high school with my nephew in Shaker Heights, Ohio, and I...

So we've kind of been following him because he had two clutch catches in preseason We're like, oh, I hope this guy makes the squad and then that's only a second NFL catch like that's just a gene if you have if you're a guy like that under pressure as a rookie and you make a catch like you got to keep that guy around that guy's got the gene But I did I know it was it's a tough, but I will say this the rivalry is definitely back.

Mm-hmm

like now that

the bears

are competitive definitely It's a it's a rival and it's like in the 80s when

You know, uh, was it Charles Martin and Chuck Cecil and there were cheap shots and, and how they were chippy the other night, you got, uh, the Packers cornerback and you got Jaquan Briskar.

If that was a college game, he would have been tossed out of the game.

He took a punch at the guy.

Yeah,

he did.

But I've never seen a finish like that to a football game.

My condolences, Packer fans, you got the Bears a couple of weeks ago in a shocker.

It would be something if they met in the playoffs again.

Uh, that would be fun.

It would be fun.

I don't think my heart could take it, but.

It's a heck of a game.

Mike Clemens is going to break it all down for us at 535.

And it'll be a fun discussion.

And join the show, folks.

Answer the question.

Tell us what's on your mind.

We love it when you do that.

When we come back, I'm going to tell you about a really funny thing I saw, the funniest parody I've ever seen of Home Alone so far.

And who played Kevin and we'll talk about that after a very short break news sports and weather coming up in about 10 minutes So stick around folks.

It's peach wava and nightlight on the civic media radio

network

Welcome

back.

I'm Pete Schwab.

This is Nightlight.

It is Monday night, folks, and we are at it.

During a short week here, a short week of Nightlight will be on tonight and tomorrow night with a brand new material and...

Original content and new shows and it'll be Christmas music from two o'clock Christmas Eve, correct?

Yeah through Friday.

Yeah So there you go.

You got Lou Regani, too If you don't know who Lou Regani is folks, I would go to the civic media civic media dot US and check out his He's a great show where he just plays oldies and Lou has a great voice.

He's got a lot of great stories just a really a great personality in

You'll get a dose of him if you tune in here over the next, well, Wednesday through Friday.

So it should be fun.

And we'll be back live on Monday and Tuesday.

And then we'll have a few more days off as well.

Short weeks.

So we'll make the best of them.

Our question of the night is, what is your question?

Tell me what is on your mind?

What is your question?

You have philosophical questions, the meaning of life.

gift suggestions, you don't know what to buy.

Ask away, folks.

You get to ask the questions tonight.

We thought that would be fun.

Did you see the Ariana Grande thing?

I did.

It was actually hilarious.

So those of you, if you didn't see Saturday Night Live this past weekend, Ariana Grande was the guest star.

She played Kevin McAllister from Home Alone.

And just, I had to like look.

and go, who is that?

Like I couldn't, I was watching it on my phone and I'm like, who the heck is that?

Then when I saw that it was her, it just blew me, it was hilarious.

It was so funny.

And she comes down and it says, what was it?

They answered the questions of what happened in those awkward moments and the whole family comes home and they fall victim to Kevin's traps that had not been released yet.

One guy gets set on fire, a couple arms get cut off.

That was really funny.

Yeah.

Buff?

What's this?

Biff.

No, Buff.

Buzz.

Buzz.

I was thinking about Biff from Back to the Future.

No, Buzz, a fan drop down and... No, it just kept

going down.

It just kept going down.

It just chopped him up.

And the dad got a blowtorch to the head, and then kerosene spit on him, and he like, you know, oh, God, it was so funny.

And then it was just all just a...

chaotic dream.

It was

great.

It was so funny.

And then I saw this other thing I thought was hilarious was Bing Crosby and the David Bowie.

They sing a little drummer boy.

Oh, yeah, which I think is great.

Maybe it's a little corny.

I really enjoy it.

I like both those guys.

And then that was parodied by Will Ferrell and John C. Riley.

But when was that?

That's not recent.

Was that an older one?

Or is that new?

Oh, I don't

Maybe I didn't see that one.

It was very funny and they said watch till the end So the two of them actually saying and they're pretty decent so you got to sit through like two I almost clipped it, but I thought I don't want to make people sit through two and a half minutes of the song and then they just kind of They don't get physical, but they just don't like each other and they start sniping at each other It was one of those few times when I'm watching like a social media video And it has that annoying watch till the end which nothing ever happens and it's a complete waste of time This actually was funny.

It's only three minutes if you go to like

two minutes and 30 seconds.

But I would Google John C. Riley, Will Ferrell, Bing Crosby, David Bowie.

It's pretty funny.

This is just a thing to do when you always have that title that says, watch to the end.

And

if it's on Instagram or TikTok, whatever you're looking, look at the comments first, because the first count will

be like,

nothing happened.

My favorite comment when I read something under a social media post that people hated was someone will say,

I remember my life before I saw this.

It was great.

So yeah, that's a good idea, though.

This was interesting.

I went out to eat with my folks on Saturday and my wife before the game.

We went to a local place and I saw this woman spill food on her shirt.

Now, what would you do if you did that con?

I'd probably like raise my hands in the air and be like, oh, come on, and then walk to the bathroom and clean it off.

Would you like wardrobe change?

Yeah, this woman spilled like this.

It was probably queso on her shirt.

She reaches down with her finger, swipes it up, and puts it in her mouth.

That's not wasting it right there.

Okay, that's fair.

That's not wasting it.

I understood the rationale behind that.

It is bad table manners, I think.

Like most people dip in napkin in water and wipe it off.

This woman just wasted no time.

She's like, nope, you're not getting away from me.

Well, you know, sometimes you just can't waste food, you know?

Listen, I get it.

It just made me laugh.

But we had a fun discussion at our table like anyway.

So we've got new sports and weather coming up in just a couple minutes, folks.

Civic Media's team will keep you informed and tell you what's up.

Then we've got Mike Clemens coming up right after the news for some sports talk and he'll break down the Bears Packers game with us.

And lots of fun stuff going on here tonight.

We've got Madison-based comic Johnny Beiner will be here at 6.35.

We'll tell you where you can see Johnny over the holidays.

And my pal Paul Gannis, a great actor and a fellow elementary school parent friend of ours from Los Angeles will be here.

He's kind of

great Rob Reiner story for you.

And then in our number three, the final act, the final curtain, so to speak, it's going to be mob talk.

So that's an appropriate way to say it.

We've got Eric and Steve from the Milwaukee Mafia podcast.

They will be here.

And that is going to be a lot of fun.

They've got great stories about Milwaukee mob characters and a story about James Kahn.

I'm going to ask them about.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

So am I missing something, Kahn?

I don't think so.

Let's try to get a text in here before we scoot off to the news.

Our questions that I just remembered.

What is your question, folks?

We ask the questions all the time.

And now I'm putting it out there to you.

You can ask us anything you want.

Madison in the 608 says, I specifically took off from work tomorrow, so I didn't have to think.

So I don't have any questions or thoughts for them.

That's fair.

You don't want to come up with a question.

I didn't mean to give everybody homework.

I just thought it could be fun.

But fair enough, Madison.

Monica from the 608 says, Why do we make things harder than they need to be?

Like having to be a contortionist to get the toilet paper started in a public toilet.

Especially when the dispenser is metal or a dark color so you can't see through it to see to the end.

Why do we need to make this harder?

That actually was homework.

That was some serious question asking.

Monica, I have no answer.

Maybe we're all being recorded.

And they just like to laugh at us.

I hope not, because that would be illegal.

Great stuff.

Keep those questions coming, folks.

Great to have you with me.

Mike Clemens is coming up after the news, so stick around for new sports and weather.

It is next.

I am Pete Chihuahua.

This is Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

In a game like that, even though the odds are against us there that late, we're going to keep on swinging and make some plays when we need it to.

So I couldn't be more proud of the group.

I'm very fortunate to be in the position I'm in coaching these guys and not something I take for granted.

I'm sure there are Packer fans that did not need to hear that highlight again, but that was the voice of Ben Johnson in the final play of the Bears Packers game, which ended at 22.16 in favor of the Bears and here to break it all down.

I mean, the rivalry is definitely back.

There was drama.

There was, uh, there was, you know, the catch was DJ more caught over the same guy that intercepted the past two weeks ago.

Great storylines and here to break it all down is Civic Media Sports Authority in the studio.

I might add.

Mr. Mike Clements.

Hey, buddy.

Hi, how are you?

Well, you had a weekend, huh?

Yep.

Busy,

busy, busy.

Uh, got out of the stadium about one, worked until about four back at the hotel.

Wow.

Uh, gotta call it six from one of the networks that deal with it.

Yeah.

That's football.

Yeah.

Oh, you probably went out and drank and

party and all

that.

Like, no, no, dude.

No, no, there's too much stuff to cover.

that that was the first time I have not heard social field that loud in so long.

And it's it's that to me said, you know, bears fans wanted revenge for two weeks ago, but mostly it said this is a rivalry again.

It's not just the Packers dominance, which has been without exception of a few interspersings 30 years almost.

I started taking note of that in the fourth quarter, because with five minutes left to play, Green Bay had pretty much controlled the whole game.

Yeah,

they had not outscored them.

But they, the offensive line, you know, kept Malik Willis stepped up.

Yeah.

They were running the ball, running jet sweeps, moving the ball.

Defense.

Defense of line contained Caleb Williams, the secondary had plaster coverage on their receivers.

Caleb didn't have much to throw to.

Right.

And then Ben Johnson took the gloves off, started calling shots, started calling plays.

And this is what Caleb does.

And that's how they've been winning a lot of their games.

But on that touchdown play at the end, in overtime, we asked, because I cover both locker rooms.

I never understand why people just talk to one team.

There's great stories on other sides.

Oh, yeah, especially in this game, yeah.

And Ben Johnson alluded to it.

And Caleb, the quarterback, said, yeah, Ben called me on Wednesday.

I went in.

We looked at some stuff.

He showed me this particular play.

We went over, we ran some reps on it on Thursday, and they had that in their pocket all night.

And they pulled that one out when they had a first down after they had regained control of the ball when Malik had this unfortunate quarterback center exchange snap and he fumbled.

And they just took that shot, 45 yard play, and you know, and beat Kieshawn Nixon on a crosser.

It was an amazing throw.

It was like in the air, 55 plus yards, and he was kind of fading when he threw it.

It looked like an Aaron Rodgers type thing, but here's what I don't understand.

I heard that.

Oh, we practiced it.

There was nothing fancy about the route.

It was like a post-route, right?

Right down the field.

Like, they didn't have that in the arsenal already?

No, it's the formations.

Okay.

You know, it's the stuff

you do

pre-snap.

It's the placement.

It's anticipation, what you're going to see in that situation, that part of the field on first down, what you anticipate Halfley is going to give you for a defense and what just might work.

But you know, let's keep that one in our pocket

in that

particular situation.

I just think Ben Johnson essentially just wants to make sure about ball security and keep him in the game and then let him take his shots.

Now

I asked LaFleur about the play yesterday.

after he'd had a chance to see the tape.

Yeah, we see that play.

Yeah, sure.

So he's also trying to be the coach who says, I knew that they were going to do that.

Yeah.

I could have told you they were going to do that.

But he didn't.

Yeah.

They didn't communicate that to their secondary.

And they got burned.

So many times during that game, I'm like, what does he do when he launched?

I'm like, why?

Five yards from field goal range.

Cairo had kicked it well and the Packers, Mike, correct me if I'm wrong, Ben Johnson got outcoached in my opinion.

Like he got cute initially and I thought LaFleur had a great game plan and it was working.

I mean, am I wrong about that?

No, I

actually tweeted by the end of the third quarter, start of the fourth.

It's like, where's the Detroit lines, Ben Johnson?

Yeah, right.

Where's the razzle-dazzle?

You know, the fake to this, fake to that, throwback to the quarterback.

He would set that up with Jared Goff.

And I just started thinking, well, it's because Jared Goff is a little more advanced,

more

years under him.

I had all that time.

But I think he's just he's still bringing this quarterback along the second year quarterback to let's, you know, ball security.

It's not

over

the ball.

That's a really good defense over there.

And I want to respect that defense.

But I even tweeted like, where's this Ben Johnson offense?

This looks kind of stale.

Yeah,

yeah, like

the same thing

over and over again.

Eberfluss was still there.

And they were having a hard time getting their running game going, which just a couple of weeks ago, scorched the Philadelphia Eagles.

They ran 281 yards.

They got to Green Bay.

Their longest run was nine yards in that game that the Packers

won at Lambo.

But it just kept them in the game, kept them in the game.

And then they had a couple of, you know.

plays fall their way.

Yeah,

like, Hey, let's decide to go for after we get the field goal.

Let's go for the onside kick.

And so you make this big declaration, you know, we're we're gonna have an onside kick.

And Cairo Santos makes his beautiful onside kick over to the his right hand side.

There's Romeo Dobbs.

And the ball bounces off his chest.

And there's a huge pile.

And the Bears recover like, Are you kidding me?

And Dobbs is having a good night.

He had five catches.

Nice touchdown reception from Malik Willis.

We had to fill in at quarterback.

Jordan Love goes

down with a concussion.

He took a head shot from big Austin Booker.

Big defensive line for the Bears.

Helmet to helmet.

Right.

But there's Dobbs, a receiver, supposed to be good with his hands.

And he just can't get the handle on the football.

It's bobbling around.

And at that point that after the game, we went up to Romeo Dobbs and said,

All right, so what happened on the mucked onside kick?

I missed it.

That's just this game, bro.

I wrapped this all week.

And yeah, bro, somebody got to be responsible, and I'm going to take on a thousand percent of it.

You injured your arm, though, on the play.

Kind of hard to maintain security of the ball.

Yeah, I mean, dude, that's just this game.

This is.

The injury rate in this s**t is high.

Yeah, that s**t happens.

Did the wind affect it at all?

It was very windy when the ball was in the air.

This was on the ground.

Nah, man.

I just misjudged it.

Credit to them.

It was a great kick right here.

And just on my end, I got to be better on securing the ball in a situation like that.

It is what it is,

man.

Is that the position you're in on side recovery when you rep it throughout the

week?

Yeah, all situations from being down X amount of points or a tight game, something that we do throughout the week.

I just did not, I just didn't do the job right.

Like I said, man, I'll take 100% of this game.

That clip complements of my guest who is here in studio with a civic media sports authority Mike Clemens Who and he was answering your question Mike that was great?

What do you feel for the guy?

It's like not how you want it You don't want to be that guy.

No if he catches that it's over,

right, right?

I mean and he's in the last year of his contract, too

Oh, man, and he got injured on the plate, too

It got his got a injured wrist out of that Then a couple ticks later all sudden Caleb Williams is back at quarterback

They're down by a touchdown and he hits this rookie receiver today.

Johnny Walker

Walker and he's wide open in the side.

Well, they ran a play where they did a bit of a pick kind of a crisscross and Nate Hobbs gets confused with Kishan Nixon and this kid's wide open for a touchdown.

And on that play, I saw Rashawn Gary, you know, the guy's one of their higher paid.

defensive line defensive end linebacker run off the field on third down like it dude it's fourth down what are you doing and I see him I've got the binoculars known as he's he's cramping or something oh really has to get off so Brenton Cox Jr.

who's a second year man he's been on the injured reservedly just got off a couple weeks ago he comes running in number 57 and no one's touching him so Caleb is back to pass and he almost sacks him.

Right

like

a fingertip away could have sacked him instead Caleb gets the ball off and scores that touchdown to tie up the game and send it over time So I went to Breton Cox and said you almost had

him Is that number four to two I mean, that's a play that it's not like they invented something right there.

The one says Breton Cox.

I don't have You don't hmm.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I talked to Breton Cox and he

He just talked about the fact that, yeah, he came that close to having it on that play.

And, you know, the fact that Caleb Williams is good, and just in those moments, can stand in there and deliver.

Joddy Walker, too, in preseason, had a couple of game-winning catches.

Like, there are some guys that just have that.

ability.

And this is his second catch in the NFL in a regular season game.

His first had come earlier in the game, a big catch for him.

But to your point, Mike, there was almost another unsung hero that was the hero if he had gotten to Caleb Williams.

That would have ended the game as well.

Where do you see the rivalry right now?

Is it back full force?

Like there were some cheap shots the other night.

Jaquan Brisker probably would have been thrown out of a college game if he had

if the refs had seen that.

Is the rivalry back in full force?

And do you think the coaches have embraced it?

Because I don't like to trash talk.

I feel like the rivalry is great enough.

I don't think we need to incite it more like Ben Johnson is doing.

And I thought he got cute early on.

And I thought the Bears were way too amped up when they came out.

Like obviously they had watched films of old Bear Packer games or something.

They didn't seem like they wanted to play football.

They didn't want to fight.

Excellent point.

Excellent point.

And I'm glad that you picked up on that.

which to me made no sense why the floor.

They you know they the Bears win the toss they elect to kick off and to defer Packers maintain possession of the ball the Bears are flying around as you

say

but the Packers mean are able to get you know down into the into Bears territory and that drive you know breaks down and they go for it on fourth down I'm like are you paying attention to where the Bears are right now take the points right and he didn't.

And they didn't convert, and the Bears took back over, but they seem to throw out the analytics or whatever.

In the meantime, later in the second quarter, Jordan Love gets his helmet to helmet shot, gets knocked out with a concussion.

So we talked to Aaron Banks, who's the left guard, about if he had a chance to talk to Jordan Love after the game.

I'm going to talk to him for a second and a half time.

There's just a lot going on, so I didn't get a chance to really check in with them, but it's hard.

It's definitely hard, especially the nature of, you know, how it happened.

I mean, they called.

What's the flag they called on that rough in the passer?

I just don't get how guys get kicked out again for taunting, but if you hit a quarterback late in the head, like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, that should get the same treatments.

Something as, you know, simple as taunting, you know, I think that.

that has to be reevaluated.

I think that's ridiculous.

Boy, what, how do you think that?

I mean, Austin Booker, he got penalized.

I would imagine he's going to be fined.

But was it malicious Mike, in your opinion, or was it just a football play?

I mean, Jordan kind of lowered his head at the last moment, but he would have hit him.

It was going to be a vicious hit either way.

You know,

I don't

know.

It all happens so fast.

These guys don't want 15 yard penalties against their team.

right.

But you know he got his shot in.

Then we went to big Colby Wooden.

He is a defensive lineman and said you know at the end of the game the Bears make some sort of an adjustment or did they do something you know to

the

plan you weren't counting

on.

Let's bring let's come back with that.

OK.

We get a really short break.

Mike Clemens is here.

We're going to open with that clip when we come back.

This is Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio

network.

There were so many plays in this game that if they go different or if we make a play or if we don't fumble or if we aren't over five or whatever in the red zone So it's never just one play It's never just one phase and that's where I have so much confidence with our guys that these guys will rally around each other They'll support one another.

They'll lift the guys that need to be lifted up and they'll battle

That is the voice of Packer Coach Matt LaFleur.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

This is Nightlight and the clip is compliments of my in-studio guest right now, Mr. Mike Clemens, who does such a great job covering the NFL, specifically the Packers.

But you feel for Matt LaFleur too, like you can't game plan any better.

I mean, his game plan was working.

I thought they had made adjustments since the first meeting, because I thought the Bears are just gonna come out and run the ball like crazy.

But they were ready for him.

Well, and then you're making these mistakes.

We talked about you screwed up the onsite kick.

Yeah.

Other things along the way.

You've got a quarterback exchange with your backup quarterback, Malik Willis.

The ball goes on the ground.

Bears recover.

You know, you give them that opportunity.

And then even a face mask call.

You

know, one of the defensive linemen from Green Bay just reaching up trying to make a play.

But you know, if you touch that bar on the face mask, it's going to be 15 yards.

So I went to Colby Wooden, who's one of those big interior defensive linemen who did such a nice job of containing the Bears running game and their quarterback, you know, Caleb Williams.

I said, did you see, did you get a sense that the Bears were making adjustments in their offense or their formations or, you know, what do you think was happening at the end of this game?

We just didn't finish, bro.

We just didn't finish.

We didn't finish, bro.

We didn't finish, bro.

We just ain't finished, man.

That's it.

We just ain't finished.

I mean, and that's it.

What can you say?

Yeah.

And you, I forget, I'm sitting in a toasty press box.

This is nice as the studio is right now, but you go downstairs and you get in that tunnel and that blast hit you from the field.

Yeah.

I was like, oh man, they've been out in this stuff for the last three and a half hours hitting each other.

You can even, when you stand next to these six foot six, 320 pound guys in the locker room.

with the smell of the grass stains on them.

And Nicole is still sort of coming off their body.

By the way, I guess there was this one thing where Erin Andrews, she was the sideline reporter of the game, and she said that the heaters weren't working.

How about that?

I

imagine that.

The

visitors.

On the visitors side, the heaters weren't working.

How about that?

They got them going again though, right?

You know, 60 years ago, how does she do this with Lombardi?

They serve the cold showers

in the visitor's

locker room.

The fine traditions

continue.

What do you make of the coaching rivalry right now, Mike?

I saw this thing on social media where supposedly Ben Johnson went to shake, you know, the first meeting a couple of weeks ago, LaFleur did a very quick handshake and kind of slapped his shoulder with his scorecard.

There is this speculation that Ben Johnson did the same thing, shook his hand and took his scorecard and hit the floor like, are they trying, or maybe it's just Ben Johnson, but is the floor gonna take the bait?

Like he seems like he's handling Ben Johnson's little psychic games pretty well.

I think it's just simply this.

Ben's a sharp offensive mind, had been with the lines, the lines.

You know, the Dan Campbell regime started two years after the Florida already been in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers for a couple of years.

It completely changed the Lions franchise that hasn't had a championship since the 1950s and only been in the playoffs

a

few times, went on 16 a few years.

Right.

You know, that was with Matthew Stafford and quarterback.

And they started beating the Packers.

And, you know, that's a rivalry along alone.

Ben Johnson gets hired by the Bears.

He tells all the fans, I love this job.

Last summer, I brought my family here to a Cubs game.

Had no

idea.

I love Chicago.

And I'm going to love beating Matt LaFleur twice a year.

That's all he said, because he's already been doing it.

Yeah, as as Alliance offensive coordinator.

And it also harkens back to something that lovey Smith did 20, 25 years ago when he said we're the top three things we're going to do is we're going to

beat the Green Bay Packers.

We're going to, you know, win our division and we're going to go to Super Bowl, which he did.

They

didn't win,

but they got that far.

So, you know, he's playing to the press.

That's all.

The floor doesn't want to get any of the part of that.

Yeah.

It

doesn't want to be a meme.

He doesn't want to be right.

He doesn't want to be, you know, Dennis Green and we knew they were going to grow them.

He doesn't

want to do that, but there was competition.

So if they, these guys decide to have these quick.

handshakes, whatever, let it

happen.

Mike, we have about a minute left.

Maybe not even.

No, we have about a minute left.

Malik Willis came in, did a great job with a concussion.

You just don't know who's more likely to be healthy enough to go this weekend if you even know that or I don't.

I would

assume that Jordan Love would be ready.

But who knows?

I mean, that's up to the protocol.

And, you know, and then Malik Willis at the end of the game has a shoulder injury.

Yeah.

To be frank, I'm not sure if it's the throwing shoulder or the left, right?

I don't think if we got that.

But we did find out that the emergency quarterback is either Josh Jacobs, the running back, or

Jayden Reed, the wide receiver.

I heard that.

I was like, oh my God.

Con, any closing thoughts?

Why don't you jump in here, buddy?

I know you're limiting all the injuries the Packers have right as

the playoffs.

I mean, it sucks.

But, you know, and then they play the Ravens

on Saturday night at seven o'clock, a Lambo field.

And Lamar Jackson's got a bad back now.

He had to leave the game yesterday.

The Ravens

game.

Is there a word on him yet for this weekend?

Is he out?

No, we don't know yet.

We won't know until Wednesday or Thursday when they start issuing the injury list.

And if

they're able to participate in practice.

Lots of storylines to follow, Mike.

You got your work cut out for you.

I do.

I do.

Thank you for coming by.

This is fun.

I appreciate it.

I always love having you here, buddy.

Love the show.

All right.

Thank you.

That's Mike Clemens.

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We are coming back in hour number two.

Actor Paul Gannis will be here with a great Rob Reiner story and comedian, Madison-based comedian, Johnny Beiner.

It's going to be a lot of fun in act two.

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Hi, I'm Pete Chihuahua.

This is hour number two of this Monday night edition of Nightlight.

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So we've had a really nice talk.

We asked the big questions in hour number one Like if you spill food on your shirt at a restaurant, do you reach down with your fingers scoop it up and put it in your mouth?

Yummy Conrad made the

suggestion

Conrad made the suggestion that at least you're not wasting food, but it is kind of a I don't know if it's proper etiquette

No.

To wipe queso off your shirt and put it in your mouth?

It's not so great for other diners, like we experienced the other night.

But you know, to each his own, whatever.

I survived the flu so far.

I was in the car with my daughter for two hours the other day and we both had masks on.

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So we've got Paul Gannis, a very fine actor and a friend of mine back from my California days who will be joining us.

He was on the movie Rumor Has It, has a great Rob Reiner story.

We'll talk to Paul about that and find out what he's up to.

Paul, I have a funny story for Paul too.

I bet he has forgotten about this, but it was one of the funniest memories I have.

at the school our kids went to and it was during a performance at a play so I'll share that with Paul too that's coming up at 635 Madison based stand-up comic Johnny Beiner will be here.

Johnny has some some cool news about a Nate Bargazzi thing he's doing and you can find out where he's going to be on New Year's Eve

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Eric and Steve will be here with a talk about their podcast.

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And I want to ask them if there are Northeast Wisconsin mafia members, because I haven't, I haven't met any Conrad.

You know, usually you meet somebody to party.

What do you do?

I'm a radio host.

Oh, I'm a gangster.

Nice to meet you.

That

has to be on your show.

Exactly.

Oh, I'd love to have a gangster, full-blown gangster.

Not a guy who's killed, maybe, but a shoplifter.

That would be

fun.

So, we'll do all that.

Lots to come, folks.

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Right now, it is my pleasure to welcome for the first time tonight, a friend of mine who's also a very good actor.

His credits include Desperate Housewives House, Lethal Weapon 3, and he's been on great soap operas, too, like Days of Our Lives, The Bold and the Beautiful.

That was Kramer's favorite soap opera from Seinfeld Conrad.

If you would stick with the show a little longer, you'd find out.

He joins us now from Southern California.

Mr. Paul Gannis.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, Pete.

What's happening?

How much?

How are you?

I'm outstanding.

Thank you very much.

wondering about that shoplifting uh... gangster that you made dinner the other night can you can you elaborate on that i

i can't say anything i'm lucky to be here buddy he could have taken out uh... but he spared my life so i i i'm

going to have a

boy

that's right to be nimble it's a way to be out of harm's way and uh... i'm glad to hear that

it's all mirta i cannot say anything uh...

Paul, you and I, our kids went to the same grade school.

We did a student reading movie together, which was so much fun.

You played a principal obsessed with disco music, and you were such a great sport during that.

And I got to know you a little bit through that.

I've followed your career since, and you're doing great, man.

I'm so happy because you're so talented.

It's just excellent.

Oh, thank you.

It's so nice.

I'm very blessed.

I've been very fortunate to be the right place, the right time, a bunch of times.

You know, it's a roller coaster and it's a lot of fun.

And yeah, you're not doing so shabby yourself there, kiddo.

Nice congrats on the show.

It's really fun.

Yeah, it's all thank you.

I appreciate that.

And somehow I've booked more acting work since I left LA.

Explain that to me, Paul.

I don't know how that works.

But anyway, it's great to have you here.

So I want to get this story in, at least, because I know we don't have a ton of time, and I really appreciate your time tonight.

But you have this great story about being on the film, Rumor Has It, and just a great Rob Reiner story.

I would love it if you would share that with the listeners.

i had no problem at all they got i uh... as you i'm sure we call my on i uh... our son tyler uh... came down with a very rare blood disease called a plastic anemia when he was too and uh... our our daughter was in colfax uh... at the time and we were in children's hospital and uh... living on the fourth floor and uh... he was getting all these transfusions and stuff and it was pretty nasty

and it was so beautiful because a lot of hollywood people sort of rally together uh... because i couldn't really work too much i was hanging out you know we're sort of tag-teaming my wife and i taken care of them at the hospital and uh... so a lot of hollywood folks casting people and producers and directors stepped up and said you know i know you need to make your insurance to keep those hospital bills at bay

you know we're going to give you a day on this and a day on that stuff big farland hired me on uh... on a on it all one of the shows on on uh...

don't look at the

great park yet family yet family debt and uh... you know the people just threw me a bone it was really good and uh... and uh... i got one of those bones that were thrown to me with an audition for this film with rob Reiner was directing with kevin costner and and jenna france and it was the sequel to the graduate

And I called rumor has it and I booked it and I was so excited because I never met Robin.

I was a huge fan of his Well, unfortunately the day of the shoot I'm literally in wardrobe about to leave walk up my trailer my phone rings and it's my doctor says Your son has taken a turn for the worst.

We got a given emergency transfusion right now and my wife was out of town So I had a babysitter there and she was freaking out

and she said your son is just really, really upset and asking for you.

So I just sort of tucked my tail between my legs, and I asked the first AD on the film, I said, you know, I hate to bail on you like this, and I know it's unprofessional, but I gotta leave because my son needs a transfusion, and I gotta be there for him.

Can I talk to Mr. Reiner?

about this and he said yes you give me a second he went and talk to him and then he brought me in and he was in the in the production trailer with kevin at the time and i said you know look i'm i'm so sorry but this is the situation and i i just i gotta go and i'm so sorry i know it puts you in a bad spot he was so cool and so kind and so understanding it said

Paul, don't worry about it.

Don't worry.

We got you.

We'll reschedule the day.

We'll pay you for today.

Go be with your son.

Family is always the most important.

And we'll hire you back.

Don't worry about a thing.

You go.

Go take care of it.

You need a ride.

It was that cool.

And Costner was too.

Costner was like, dude, we got your back.

Just don't worry about it.

We got you.

You go.

Just get out of here.

And go be with your son.

And sure enough, they did.

They rescheduled the whole scene.

And I played Cluster's co-pilot.

He was

a pilot who had a private plane.

And I only had two scenes with him.

And that was one of the big scenes where we were on the tarmac getting on the plane with Jennifer and everything.

So they had to reschedule the whole thing.

I mean, they could have recast me.

Just grabbed an extra.

And he only had like five lines.

It wasn't a big, big deal.

and they didn't and that must have that had to cost them you know probably a hundred thousand dollars to to reshuffle

all

of you and the jet and the location and and i you know i'll never forget that he's one of my heroes with both those guys just so great you know

that is so great paul and it's uh paul ganas is my guest he is uh an excellent actor with tons of credits and he's telling us a story about his uh...

Interaction with Rob Ryder on the set of rumor has it and that's such a great story and you know every since he passed away tragically a week a little over a week ago I've been hearing nothing but stories like this Paul and it's so cool when I saw you post this on Facebook I'm like I absolutely that's one of the good things about social media you see all these people with great stuff and insights you never would have known and as you know on movie sets money is everything so to just say out $100,000 that doesn't sound like a lot because the budget

millions but they have been counters and for him to do that you know he stuck his neck out a little bit right

well all for sure he did i mean the thank goodness he'd already had you know a string of hits so uh... you know he he had the sort of the at the stones in the juice yeah to get away with that but but yeah no there's i mean there's a guy there's a line producer on set every day cappin is watching we gotta go we're losing like we gotta go we can't push this thing and i mean you know just

with a hair up their butt trying to move everybody along because of the you know it is crazy it's slow it moves like a glacier i mean it's not so much hurry up and wait but it's so expensive it's it's ridiculous so they got you know there's some really great people out here in the in showbiz i gotta say there it gets a bad rap for a lot of things that he he was just a prince and that ironically he was his dad carl uh... with a really good friend of dick van patent

and my wife's best friend, Mary Nelsen, Nelsen Patton's son, Nels.

So we're over there all the time.

And it was a celebrity fest all the time, just to walk, to go over there and see who was playing tennis.

They have a big tennis thing.

Mel Brooks and Anne Bancroft and, you know, who's who of comedy?

You know, everybody would be over there.

And Dickie would, would play, you know, would hold court literally.

And, uh, and then they would, they would play some tennis and then they'd all go off to Santa Anita and bet on the, on the ponies.

They were,

he was in there for a gamble,

but Rob, Rob had shown up there on an occasion.

I never got to meet him.

They always told me, Oh, you just missed Rob was here.

And he's so funny.

And, and Larry David was here and no, you know, so anyway, there was.

I heard great things about him, so I was excited.

That was one of the things I was excited about to do the film.

And then he just, you know, they did not need to do that, so it was so cool.

Very

cool.

Paul, I'm hoping we can keep you for a couple of minutes.

We have to do a really short break, and then I've got a story I'd like to tell you, and I'm curious as to whether or not you remember it, but I think it'll be fun.

Paul Gannis is here, and he's going to stick around for a couple more minutes after the break.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

you

Hey, this is John Gries, also Uncle Rico, and you're listening to Nightlight of Peach Wawa.

Welcome back.

Oh, we've got Johnny Beaneer coming up after the news at 635 Madison-based comic Johnny Beaneer.

We'll be here, one of our favorites.

Right now, we have an old friend of mine, Mr. Paul Gannis, an excellent actor who is on the phone with us from Southern California.

We were also Colfax Elementary School dads.

Our kids were in school together.

Paul, I don't know if you remember this.

We were at a play in the Colfax Auditorium.

And you're you're from Detroit, right?

Yeah.

OK, so your red wings were playing the Pittsburgh Penguins, I think, in the finals.

And there was another guy.

I didn't know the other guy, but he was a Penguins fan.

And I think Pittsburgh had just defeated Detroit.

And you guys are both at your kids show and trying to follow the game on your phone.

And I remember.

Does this sound familiar?

Absolutely.

And they got eliminated and I was so bummed.

He turned around in the middle of, there's some kid up on stage singing and he looks at you and he makes the throat slit.

Yeah.

And you looked down at your phone, you were sitting close to me, you looked down at your phone and you yelled, no!

Right in the middle of the kids performance.

It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

It was great.

This is true.

I was a little more than a little hockey obsessed.

And actually, I'm back to that level of Red Wings fanaticism now that they've got a team again.

So, yes, this is true.

uh... those healthy on days of colfax and we had fun what did we

lots of fun and shooting that movie of the disco principal was great you were a lot of fun to be around it was uh... all the other dads jayme McShane and scott clays have been on the show it's always fun i've kept in touch

with those guys

too so tell them

hi

if you uh... if you see them but hey you have a new project coming out uh... what can you tell us about it's called upside down

Yeah, it's called upside down.

Well, actually, I think it's gonna be called loose ends is I think they've that upside down with the working title, but Yeah, it's really really kind of exciting.

It's a it's a dark comedy About they did that I was the only white guy in the whole cast it was based it was a real sort of Persian in LA based It was about it was that the stories about a an ambulance chasing lawyer

who sort of a jacquie gleason character he's trying to do he's impacted me he's in over the head with a gold digging wife and uh... he's he's having trouble and he gets mixed up with the russian mob in l a and uh... and he's got a bunch of latin guys that are helping him try to bamboozle the mob and i mean i play it down and out l a p detective who's been assigned to insurance fraud

who uh... stumbles across this this russian mob connection and i i go rogue and i try to uh... you know but i want to redeem myself as a detective and hilarity ensues but anyway it's really well done and and

alcohol

uh... it was interesting because of the the woman who plays the wife is a really internationally acclaimed in famous uh... dissident from iran and she's basically got it but but while on her head

uh... because i did a bunch of women's right things while she was still in iran and then she got exiled she escaped and got to the states so at the amount of security for her was uh... uh... don't think i don't think i was a little concerned that frankly i don't know don't be collateral damage here but um... i don't want to get your absolute she's amazing she's and everyone on the film so yeah if you get a chance i think it's called loose and it'll be out uh... probably late

spring, early summer.

It's an indie film, and it's funny.

It's funny, and it's pretty dark, but it's very sort of Cohen brother-ish.

A lot of characters in it, but it's fun.

That's fantastic.

Well, listen, buddy, continued success.

Thank you so much for jumping on.

I know you were in Kabul when I reached out to you, and I'm just glad you checked your messages, because it was great to catch up, and great to hear that story and reconnect.

So say

hi to the family.

Oh, yeah, thanks.

Thank you so much for the invite.

Anytime.

Thank you, sir.

If you ever get out here, let me know.

I will definitely do that.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you so much, Paul.

All right, take care.

All right,

pal.

All right, that's Paul Gannis.

Check him out.

Well, it's called Loosens or Upside Down.

It's probably going to be called Loosens.

It'll be out later this year.

What a great story.

Remember I was telling you about that last week.

Yeah, yeah, that was a

phenomenal story.

And I'm telling you one of the funniest things I've ever seen when that guy turned around and looked at him and made that throat.

And I see Paul's head go down to the phone to verify his worst fear about the redwigs that he yelled in a kid's play.

It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Great stuff.

Johnny Beiner is coming up after the news.

Let's read some text con, shall we?

I

think so.

We've got our social media responses here to our question of the night, which is, what is your question?

Civic media's own Chuck Gennaro says, if you put your left foot in, then you pull your left foot out, then you put your left foot back in and shake it all about.

Will you flunk the roadside sobriety test?

That is a grin.

I guess it depends how forgiving the cop is, Chuck.

And I hope you've never been there, buddy, but that's a great question.

Stacy Sue says, what's a good movie to see in the theaters in Marinette during the holidays?

Well, Stacy Sue, I might see you there.

I am going to see Avatar.

I still haven't seen Wicked.

I know that's there.

I know you've got The Housemaid with Amanda Zyford and Sidney Sweeney, two of my exes.

That's playing at the Phoenix.

So lots of great films out there, especially during the holiday season.

Happy viewing.

My pal Bob Rowe.

Well, if you want to, Bob is a great, Bob is a Facebook.

Not warriors the race loves Facebook and he's great.

Have you ever heard someone?

Referred to like this.

He's great at Facebook

Yes,

like whether it's politics or whatever like Bob gets into everything.

He's civil He's been on the show before he's an opera singer and I love Bob he taught me guitar for about two months in the summer of

I don't know the early 80s.

It was great mid 80s actually so read Bob's responses on Facebook to our question the night There's about 20 of them and then Conrad Krueger after Jake Paul lost.

Do you think it's

Krueger?

Did

I say Krueger?

What are you doing?

At least I said Conrad with a K, right?

You didn't hear a C in there did you?

I didn't hear a C but when I see your name, I think Krueger like I know you're Conrad Krueger

All

right

You'll get over it.

You've heard that before, right?

Many times.

That's why you expected more from me.

All right, we're coming back, folks.

New sports and weather is next, and then we've got comedian Johnny Beiner here.

We are barreling through this Monday, and it's great to have you here.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Great to have you with me on this Monday night, folks, joining in the conversation and talking about all the things we absolutely love in life.

And coming up in hour number three, we've got Mafia Talk with Eric Walterkens and Steve Schmidt from the Milwaukee Mafia podcast.

They're going to be here in the studio and maybe they're playing the long game con.

One of us has been,

you know, targeted.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Maybe you think so.

You know what, I would give my life for you because I've experienced more, a little older than you.

Thanks.

Yeah, I think I've embraced life.

But my next guest is a huge, this is great, one of the funniest guys, A in Wisconsin and B around.

And how funny is he?

On our Facebook post today when we were promoting the guests, another comedian, Trevor Klumpner, another friend of the show said, Johnny Beiner is the man.

And when you were getting shout outs from fellow comedians on social media, you know that's a great thing.

So it is my pleasure to welcome back one of our favorite comedians, the very funny Madison based Mr. Johnny Beiner.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, buddy, how are you?

Good.

How's it going?

It's going good.

It's going good.

Trevor Klumpner is great as well.

Yeah, I return the compliment.

It's a lot of this is a lot of love going on here.

You got quite a setup there.

And I forgot you have a podcast.

So you're all set from home there.

That's right.

I am all set.

It's the cavalry, baby.

The cavalry.

That's

right.

Check out the cavalry.

Yeah.

How often does that drop, John?

That drops every Monday.

Sweet.

We have gone three, what, two hundred and ninety.

I think tonight is two hundred and ninety five episodes that we have not missed a week.

So that's like six-ish years or almost?

Yeah, you know what?

I don't know.

We started during the pandemic and haven't missed a week yet.

You know what would be really funny is if you said, actually, I canceled it so I could be on Nightlight.

That's all it took.

This is the first week it's not coming out because I'm on this.

The first week you've had

an excuse to say I don't want to do the podcast

today.

We'll check that out, folks.

Where can people get that?

of

the

I think so.

I think so.

We got that.

Well, I have my half done.

My wife has to wrap stuff for her folks and for me.

But I got the kids stuff, my stuff all wrapped and ready.

So.

Are you a good gift-getter?

Like, when it comes to shopping for your wife, are you good at that?

Two of the things she literally sent me a direct link to.

Like, okay.

And then the third, the third item I got creative that I think she'll appreciate it.

So three

gifts.

Wow.

Good for you.

That's fantastic.

Um, so I have to ask you something on your website.

It reads Johnny Beiner, funny standup comedian.

I added that to this too.

My little sub thing on the show.

I don't want to get confused with those funny comedians out there.

I know you, so I know that was a joke, but I know there are comics out there that would do something like that and not even catch it.

Like it reminds me of, do you know Rich Brown, the comedian?

Do you ever meet Rich?

I don't think so.

He used to have a business card he would hand out that said, bringing the funny since 1998, comedian since 1989.

the

the

and bring my two older children home to play with their cousins.

My wife and Ian Phoebe, the youngest, are gonna stay here just because it's just kind of a quick trip there and back.

Yeah.

Do you like

working New Year's Eve, John?

Yeah, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

I like it because it's exciting and it's an excuse to do something, but it's always extremely uncomfortable and awkward.

When you're on stage, everyone's kissing their loved one and you're like, well, I'm glad I could make you guys laugh.

I guess I'll just hug the feature hat.

That is exactly where I was going with it, because I wasn't a comic for that long.

It was like seven or eight years, but that's.

It was sort of bittersweet.

Sometimes my wife would go with me, but sometimes she would say, I don't want to be in a comedy club, because you could still smoke then.

And she's like, would

go

to her sisters or something.

But that's exactly how I felt.

You're left hugging.

You see all these couples in love.

And you're hugging the guy that you may or may not even like, counting down the new year.

So do you have someone working with you that you like, and you can hug frivolously?

No.

Well, you know, it's nice about this.

I'm working with two comics that Reese Richards is

comic and Omaha and But it's a seven o'clock show.

We're just doing one show and it's a seven o'clock show.

So we don't have to you know Fake it.

We'll just be like, all right, everyone go send your babysitters home and have fun at the countdown at home,

you know But you get there and you maybe the club owner will go.

All right, John We need you to do four hours to get us to midnight.

I'll give you a light I'll give you a light at five to

That was not the

agreement

What you also have your next Wisconsin date is in February on another big day.

Tell us about that

That's in Nashville.

That's yeah, I'm doing the Nate Bargazzi Company the Nate land presents

the showcase well tell us about

that i was going for valentine's day but nateland is before is before that

no that's after i think that's the week after what am i i don't know what i'm doing you're doing

you're doing

oh yeah it's a local gig that's right

sounds like you might not be away from your wife but on uh february 14th it reveres indella field

that's right i will be indella field and i will be away from my wife i i'm guessing yeah we don't really

you say

You strike me more as a sweetest day couple anyway rather than a

holiday.

That's the real holiday.

So Revere's February 14th, that'll be a fun show.

You're a great, I would imagine you're a great Valentine's Day comic because you have very funny relationship material.

Yeah, I like those shows because it is, it is a lot of couples and that's the one thing I get after my shows is a lot of people being like, oh my gosh.

your wife is me, I'm your wife, you know, we do that, Mike said that too.

So yeah, those relationships those are great.

And you're like, I know that's where the humor comes from, it's relatable, that's what we do here.

Yeah, that's how I respond, they say, yeah, I know you idiot.

Would you like to buy some swag?

Johnny vener is my guest.

He's a Madison based very funny stand-up comedian who has been on David Letterman and has his own Drybar special.

All great stuff.

Tell us this is cool.

Nate Bargazzi.

I don't think it gets bigger than Nate right now in the stand-up comedy world.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a pretty cool thing.

So what are you doing for Nate?

I am doing a 15-minute set at, I guess they tape them at Zany's in Nashville.

And they wanted me to do it last time, but schedule-wise, I was like, I can make this work.

I can make it work.

I'm gonna have to bring two of my kids because my wife is out of town with the other one.

And it has to end up being like, well, there's gonna be other comics in the green room and at the hotel or the condo.

I don't know if we want your kid.

Let's let's reschedule.

I was like, all right, that's fine.

So and luckily they're doing another season of this and it's yeah, it's called the the Nate Lane presents the showcase.

So it's and it's just, you know, it's on his YouTube channel.

It's a show and so it'll be fun.

That's really cool.

I'm I am a little nervous.

It seems like your house is divided.

It's your wife and your daughter against the men and it seems like

You guys are having some issues there.

Well, you know what it is?

It's my mother-in-law likes to take the kids and celebrate with them one at a time.

So like she took Edie and my wife to Mexico when Edie graduated fifth grade, took Duncan and my wife to Florida when he graduated fifth grade.

And then I don't know what was the deal with Phoebe, but it's always the mother-in-law doing these dates.

And my wife is chaperoning

so if the good thing is now I know a little bit about your mother-in-law because of your act and is just the one that practice Is this the practitioner of holistic medicine?

Holistic medicine.

Yes.

Okay, so you if something happens She's there

who are in trouble Rubbing leaves on it

That's great.

Um, all right.

So Nate, have you met Nate Bargazzi?

Is he, is he a good guy?

He's very funny.

He's, I don't think he gets,

but

he's selling out arenas now.

I have, I have met him once.

He was not, he was not the man he is today.

It was in the back of, I think the jukebox comedy club is hanging out.

He popped in and said hello.

And, but I don't think he was.

Yeah, I think he had a Comedy Central Presents and that was it or something

no kidding Wow, yeah, and he's got like a I guess he's doing like a amusement park or something Nate world or something like that

Nate land brand I think where all of his specials are like under this Nate land umbrella Wow

Yeah, really coming into his own Have you let me ask you this John you're

You, does your family think you're funny?

How do you, how do you do at home?

Uh, my, my family, like my family that I've created.

Your immediate family.

Yes.

Your kids, your wife.

Uh, I think so.

I think they, yes, my kids are young enough to where they do think I'm funny still.

They're still under, I mean, 80 turns 13 in, you know, two weeks.

Um, so I know, I realize my time is limited with them and my wife, um,

I think she thought I was funny enough for a long enough time to where she thinks of me as a funny person.

I don't know that she laughs at me much anymore.

I asked it because like my kids are they they crack me up.

You know, sometimes they laugh at me, but we have a mutual friend, Mike Toomey, who says his kids never laugh at him.

And

it's almost

like it's become a thing, like where they're trying not to laugh at him.

And

I just didn't

know what it was like in your house, but you you strike me as a kind of guy that would be the funny dad

Yeah, I I mean I try to be I think my kids are funnier than me, but yeah, that's you know, that's just me not trying to sound cocky I just say my I forgot and also so the last time I saw Pete was at the viewing of the Godfather of Green Bay.

Yes with Fantastic love it great.

I had seen it

Back in the day.

Yeah, and but this was my first time seeing it and I don't know if this was my first time seeing it after knowing Mike to me I guess I didn't realize it was very cool to see Mike to me be like, oh, hey, okay Listen

by

the way, you

know, I kind of talked about that screening a lot leading up to it Then I got I didn't want to bore the heck out of people but I was absolutely thrilled you were there Thank you very much for coming out and despite the horrible weather the cold that night.

It was great to see you

and the

Same.

It was fun.

You're right.

It's like I, you know, it was hard to get people to go 20 years ago and it was a new movie and much less 20 years later when nobody's even hurt them.

A lot of people haven't heard of it anyway.

Johnny Beners here, folks.

We're coming right back.

We'll have a few more minutes with John.

I'm going to ask him who he thinks is funny.

We'll do that next.

It's Pete Schwab.

At Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

To be

Welcome back Our question of the night tonight is what is your question every night I ask you guys a question Pardon me.

I want to know what your question is it can be for me.

It could be Theory of life, whatever any personal problems you have to get out you can ask Conrad something he gives great advice

So, fire away.

My guest is Johnny Beiner.

He is here joining us on Nightlight like he does periodically.

Very funny stand-up comic from Madison and his podcast is The Cavalry.

So, check that out wherever you get your podcast.

Very funny guy.

You've seen him possibly on David Letterman on his Drive-R special and he's got a great thing he's doing with Nate Bargazzi in January.

Where can people see that, John?

Where will that air?

That will air on YouTube on the Nate land channel.

Oh, yeah, okay fantastic So you've reached the point you're a headliner you work big rooms you work all over the place Is there a guy you don't mind opening for even though like you're not the top dog on the show?

Is there a guy that you're like, oh, I just want to work with him

I Mean I would love to work with Greg Han again.

You know Greg Han.

Yes.

I was

Oh my god, that's so funny you said that name because here's my Greg Hahn experience.

I was invited to Montreal in 1997 to the Just for Laughs Festival, which at the time was like this prestigious thing, and I was a new face to them, not to me.

And Greg was also a new face as well.

I didn't know him well, but we would get in the van from the hotel, and they would take us to the venue.

And Greg always sat in the passenger seat, and he always held on to this, the thing for extra protection in case we got in an accident or something, I guess.

But he used to do this joke.

He was kind of different offstage, but he used to do this joke where he'd throw water at his face, and he'd be like, who's got a tapeworm?

He would ask the crowd.

And I always thought tapeworm was funny.

So yeah, he's just kind of a nut on stage and very funny.

Yeah, he's very high energy.

He's just one of those comics like he helped me out a lot when I was starting.

I don't

know

but like I was doing Open or I was like putting on my own shows at Marquette because I was like the head of the improv troops So I would do stand-up because I wanted to do stand-up and I would do these shows and I tape them and he and I was a big fan of his just because he was like on make Make me laugh on Comedy Central

and he was just so silly.

And so I knew him from that and he was coming to the comedy cafe in Milwaukee.

And so me and my brother went and saw him and I gave him, I gave him like a VHS tape of my set and was like, hey, I want to be a comedian.

This is my thing.

If you have any advice.

And he like watched it and wrote me and then he

brought me on the

road.

And I mean, I ate it so hard because I was, you know, so new and was just performing in front of my friends.

But,

And then, you know, and then we work together later and he's just one of those guys that like I could watch six.

All six shows of the whole weekend and I'll die laughing every time.

He's one of those guys that we some of us kind of didn't know what to make of him because he was kind of quiet offstage and he was an ex-marine and he was just you know just kind of very comfortable in his own skin a little bit older than us but really funny on stage and I love that he got back to you.

I think that is so great.

I doubt he'd remember me but that's really cool that he watched a VHS tape and got back to you and helped you out.

I love that story.

So, I forget that you have an improv background.

Do you ever do improv?

You were a comedy sports.

I think you did Second City.

Yeah,

I did.

I did Second City and the Upright Citizens Brigade.

Oh, yeah.

When I was in, you know, I just went through their training programs.

So I was never like on the teams or anything.

But I, you know, I was in a sketch, an improv group in Milwaukee called the Gentleman's Hour.

for years and that was really fun.

And some of those guys are still, you know, they're still in Milwaukee and work at Combi Sports and put on their own show.

So I have jumped on some of their shows and it's fun.

I really like doing improv.

It must have helped with your crowd work.

You're really good with crowds.

I would imagine that you could probably trace some of it back to improv.

Yeah, I think mainly that just the comfortability of the unknown.

Yeah,

yeah So hey, I want to ask you have you seen Chappelle's new special?

Yes How is it?

Have you seen

it?

I have not no, it's I can't wait to see I've heard amazing things about it.

It's it's yes It's very good.

It's very amazing, but he seems to have reached a status where he's more of a like

a profit than a, you know what I mean?

There's this strong like message that he's, I mean, all of his specials are like, okay, what's the theme?

What's the big message in life that he's trying to get across?

And that's, it's pretty heavy on that in this special.

And we were talking to my buddy, Jason Russell, who, did you ever cross paths with him?

I

don't think so.

He

was in the walking comic.

I

don't think so.

For a long

time, and then he's in LA now.

But he was kind of complaining.

He's like, there needs to be more jokes.

I get what he's doing.

Yeah.

But it's, he's a comedian first.

He's got to bring the jokes.

So that's, I think that's interesting.

I went through that with some of the, like, I guess you'd call him like grunge comics.

It's like, well, that's a great point.

You know, Mark Maron used to be like that.

Like, you know, he can be really funny, but then he's just like, I'm not here to hear you just pontificate on stuff unless you have a punchline or something.

Right.

Hey, before we let you go, John, thank you again for being here tonight.

What, uh, do you have favorite Christmas movies?

Oh, um, Christmas vacation

is

classic.

Can't go wrong with that.

Home Alone.

Same.

Those are my two goats and it's a wonderful life.

Those are our three your kids like those movies too

Yes, when we put on it's a wonderful life They kind of roll their eyes because it's black and white.

Yeah, I think they've seen it twice now, but yeah, that's yeah, it's a classic they there I probably have the movie elf memorized elf and the animated Grinch movie just from being on all the time during this season

Dude, this is always fun.

I love when you're on the show.

Thank you so much.

And where can people follow you?

Just social media?

Yeah, social media.

Johnny Comic is my handle on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok.

I think those are the main ones.

Awesome stuff.

And then

JohnnyBeaner.com is my website.

Yeah.

And he's a funny stand-up comedian, folks, not to be confused with the other ones.

You'll see it right in his website.

Thank you, sir.

Always fun.

Have great holidays.

Merry Christmas and travel safely.

Thanks, YouTube.

Pete, thanks for having me.

All right.

Thanks, John.

That's Johnny Boehner.

Check him out, folks.

All right.

We are going to do the news.

We're going to come back, and I'm going to play a fun Yanis clip for you.

That's next on Nightlight with Peach Waba.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Peach Waba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who considers a silver medal, a participation award,

Welcome

back ladies and gentlemen to nightlight hour number three act three as we call it here getting started here and in the homestretch here on a Monday night just a reminder we are live obviously tonight and tomorrow night and then we will be off and the network will be playing Christmas music and Lou Ragani how cool does that sound

I mean, it sounds awesome.

Lou Ragani is awesome.

We had him on the show.

Do you remember that?

Yeah, first start.

We should have Lou back.

He's great.

So that will be a very festive few days on nightlight.

We will be back next week on Monday and Tuesday and then be off again for two short breaks.

I have 94 vacation days I still have to use Conrad.

I don't know if you can get it in.

Do you want to buy any of them?

Can you buy?

Wouldn't it be sweet if we could barter stuff like that?

I

think that's breaking some type of law.

Well, you're not HR, are you?

No.

All right.

Welcome back.

We've got a really fun time tonight.

Great guest.

Mike Clemens was here in hour number one, and he broke down the Bear Packer game, which I understand was heartbreaking for Packer fans, probably to have to relive it.

But Mike does such a great job.

Conrad, after your team loses, do you find that it helps to talk about it or do you not want to talk about it?

I just want to go on to the next week.

All right.

Let me take you inside the mind of a bear fan for the last couple decades.

It's like therapy.

When the bears would lose, I couldn't get enough of because like the Chicago media will make jokes about them.

They don't go, oh, our bears, they make jokes about them.

And that helped me.

So, you know, even a couple of weeks ago when the Packers beat him on that last, that interception, it helps, it helps me.

I don't know.

It helps me to.

It's therapeutic, I think, when you listen to people.

Like, even like Mike when he was here.

Did that help you in any way?

No.

I appreciate your honesty.

The thing I just realized is I want, you know, Nixon off the team, but, you

know.

But, okay, but if you get Nixon off the team, then maybe he doesn't make that interception.

I know, but like, and I understand the other day, he made some serious errors, but I don't know.

It's a gritty team.

The Packers are gritty.

They're gonna bounce back

and... Well, I said, you know, as soon as Malik came in, I said, well, don't...

Don't worry.

It's because the best backup in the league.

Yes.

And he wasn't game planned for it.

Like he could like love can run.

He's mobile, but not like Willis.

No.

And I feel like here's my biggest fear.

Like the Bears and the Packers are one and one against each other this year.

The rivalry is back full on.

It's great.

My biggest fear playing the Packers in the playoffs.

Yeah.

I mean,

it could

happen.

It could.

It could.

You know, the Packers can still win the North.

Mathematically?

Yeah.

Correct.

We have to win out, and the Bears have to lose out.

And Detroit, it doesn't matter, correct?

Detroit, no.

I mean, well, the Bears and the Lions still face each other.

Correct.

Yeah.

So you need the Bears to lose that game, but it doesn't matter what Detroit does in terms of the Packers.

The Lions need to win out, and we need to

lose out.

I'm sorry, correct.

The Lions need us to lose out.

That's a mess.

I can't even like my son was listening to all this playoff stuff last night I'm like, I don't even know how you can follow that.

I'm just like whatever, you know But anyway, we talked about all of that with Mike It was great to have Mike in the studio and then we talked to in hour number two my friend and actor Paul Gannis was here telling his Rob Reiner story which was an absolutely great story and I got to share a memory with Paul back from our

elementary school parent days, which was really fun when Paul yelled in the middle of a kid's performance.

And then Johnny Boehner was here at 6.35.

Very funny medicine-based stand-up comic and host of the podcast Cavalry.

Check it out.

Johnny's one of the funniest guys I know and always fun to have on the show.

Check out hours number one and two at civicmedia.us.

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Let's reintroduce our question of the night.

Here's the nightlight question of the night, folks.

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We're turning the tables.

We ask you guys questions every night.

Your responses are fantastic.

Tonight, I'd like you to ask a question, and it can be anything.

Conrad and I are both pretty much open books.

I don't know, would you answer personal questions, Con?

Yeah, you can't go any of some limits, but you know.

Yeah.

What's a limit?

Give me a for instance.

Well, you know, I won't give out my social security number here, but...

I thought you were committed to the show.

Okay, apparently not.

So don't ask Conrad for his social security number, but I'll give you a fake one.

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Sydney Politics.

He's Politics Tonight, Con.

No

Frankenstein.

On the YouTube.

on the YouTube.

He says, would you rather eat a bean-sized human or a human- Is that from a movie or something?

I don't know.

I guess a

human-sized bean because for sure it's not cannibalism.

Exactly.

And I don't, you know, look, cannibalism is fine in a pinch if there's nothing else.

Well, you know, you gotta do it if you gotta do it.

But yeah, I wouldn't go human-sized bean, although that would be...

It would take you a while.

But it would take you a while and it would probably, it could end your life.

That could be too much.

It would rot.

Yeah, exactly.

And it depends what kind of bean.

Like what kind of bean would you eat if you had to eat a bean?

A pinto bean?

Really?

I don't know.

I don't like beans.

That's the thing.

I'd go garbanzo, I think.

a nice uh yeah nice garbanzo bean give me a human size small human size garbanzo bean great question Sydney thank you Sydney also says also if you had to suddenly be in a NASCAR in a NASCAR in the middle of a race or under center about to take a sack in an NFL game oh great question which would you pick i'm taking the sack dude if i got sacked in an NFL game it would kill me

i mean

Do you think you could you could control a NASCAR going that fast though?

Yeah, I guess I would take the sack too.

There's no way I'm going to the NASCAR.

I would just probably take my foot off the gas and let everybody pass me and pull over.

You put your blinker

on and ask for directions.

Your hazards and shoulder check coming over.

Great questions.

Thank you, Sydney.

Those are awesome.

Yeah, I would probably I guess I would go quarterback, but I would But you know, there's no guarantee I would take a sack.

I have a quick release.

You know what

you could do.

Tell me.

Just take an E and then the play's over.

Right.

And then we lose the game.

And my own team would sack

me.

And you know, yeah, everyone hates you.

That's right.

I don't care.

I live to fight another day.

Take another snap.

Melissa from Willy Street and Madison says, Hi, Pete.

My question for you is, if there is one thing you could make vanish from the world, what would it be?

Well, after I ate a human-sized garbanzo bean, I would probably say garbanzo beans.

I would never want to see another garbanzo bean.

I guess, you know, this is a stock hack answer.

What do you want to say?

Hunger.

I don't... It bothers me that there are people that go hungry and we could wipe that out if we wanted to.

So I would probably say hunger.

What about you, Con?

What would

you

do?

This is Cattle Bears.

Not gonna happen.

Um You are totally getting a dose of what I've had to deal with 30 years Conrad.

I'm okay with one loss.

Yeah That was a heck of a game that has to be up there and bear packer even the game two weeks ago was probably one of the best

No, the the all-time, you know, I talked about last week when BJ Raji intercepted that in the NFC championship

that one hurt He intercepted Caleb not Caleb

Caleb

Haney, another Caleb.

Yeah, intercepted it, ran it back.

That's one of the best moments I've ever had.

That Caleb did not have ice in his veins.

He had, he was a blazing inferno in his veins and he couldn't wait to cough it up.

So John from the 608 says, question for you and Conrad, how crushing will it be for the Packers, for the Packer fans if the Pack gets their ass kicked again by dub bears and the playoffs?

It was awful quiet at work today around the water cooler.

I'm guessing John's a bear fan.

I don't know if I knew that about John.

Well,

you

know, Conrad's got to answer that one.

Honestly, this year, I don't expect us to go far, to be honest, since our whole team is just...

You

guys are in bad shape now, that's... I don't expect too much anymore.

Yeah.

Would you almost rather slip a few spots for draft picks, or do you still hope to make the playoffs?

No,

I don't think that...

No matter what pick the Packers get in that draft they they can't draft so they can't draft Not recently.

Oh, man.

Every defensive player we draft is just

hey if you want to swap Ryan polls for your guy I would do that

Well, you know, he's gonna be right this year if they take the north is he gonna ever give it back?

We'll see.

Oh, that's right.

He might actually take it was such an empty promise four years ago.

I kind of forgot about it

John also says, love the holy pokey, hokey pokey drug test, LOL.

Noah Guy that got several DUIs in Illinois, a passenger witness to one of them told us that when the cop said, sir, it smells to me like you've been drinking, he responded and I quote, yeah officer, well it smells to me like you've been eating donuts.

Looks like we have a dilemma.

Oh man, he says great real life fun.

I wanna know what happened after that.

Did they wail on him?

Or did they offer him a donut?

I don't know.

Thank you, John.

Bridget from the 818 says, what is a Christmas tradition you had as a child?

What is your favorite Christmas TV show cartoon growing up?

Christmas tradition as a child.

Probably Midnight Mass, because we got to stay up late.

It was kind of fun.

My Christmas TV show, I liked Chris Kringle or the kind of, what do you call it, the stop motion?

The acclamation.

Yeah, the acclamation.

liked watching that in Peanuts Christmas.

What about you, Con?

Um, I'm trying to think of the, I mean, it wasn't really shows.

I did, you know, I did watch those, those cartoons though that like, really root off the red nose reindeer loved them.

Yeah.

Frosty.

I'm trying to think of any other ones.

I mean, Grinch, I watched that all the time, too.

And I

was, yeah, that's awesome.

Yeah.

All good stuff.

Classics.

That's why they

We're around when we were a kid, too.

Steve, from Florida, that's Conrad's dad.

It says, Pete, scientific question.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Well, it has to be the egg because how could you hatch a chicken?

Oh, but wait a minute.

How could y'all?

That's the age-old question, Steve.

I think it just spawned one day.

It's like if it's either God put a chicken on the earth or the big bang created an egg.

Let's go with that.

I'm covering both bases.

Thank you.

Steve, what do you think?

Answer your own question, please.

You've got the floor.

Melissa from Willy Street says, oh, I guess she liked our answer con.

The clapping.

And now I want to ask them what their answers are.

So feel free to share your answers, folks, too.

And John Murray Madison says, bears all day, baby.

I knew John was from Illinois, but I never heard him talk about the bears before.

Best of luck and congrats on your win the other night, John.

And yeah, we'll see what happens.

It should be an interesting playoff season.

Do we have time to play that Yanis clip?

Uh, yeah.

Yeah, we can.

This is from Mike Clemens, right?

Oh, we don't.

Oh, we don't.

Okay.

All right.

I'm trying to get to it before the end of the show.

Yeah.

Mike Clemens shared a funny Yanis clip with us.

He's having some holiday dilemmas.

But we will get into all that.

Coming up in just a few moments, folks, I'm very excited for my next two guests.

They will be here, Eric Walterkins and Gavin Schmidt.

The two hosts of the Milwaukee Mafia podcast are here in studio.

We're talking mob.

Don't get whacked before you hear this interview.

It's Pete Schwab at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

Great to have you here on this Monday night.

We are almost midway through hour three.

John Murray from Madison in the 608 says, Conrad, this one's for you and slightly personal.

How many beer cans in your collection and do you still actively collect?

I collected for many years and have accumulated a mountain of them.

Your

beer can collection?

You and John like communicating off hours?

How do I not know this?

No, I

used to when I was in college.

I don't have one anymore.

I kind of like was...

Like I just don't want to move this with me when I you know graduated so So now I don't have any

when I was growing up in our neighborhood in Chicago everybody People like teamed up for beer can collections.

The big thing was cone tops If you could get your hands on a cone top that was huge and when I was up in Three Lakes at my grandma's cottage once my great aunt found cone top beer cans buried on her property

And it was like, I'm like, I am gonna be the coolest guy in the entire city of Chicago when I go back.

And it was incredible.

It didn't really bring me the glory I wanted or necessarily thought I deserved, but it was fun to see them.

And then finally, Steve in Florida says, I believe it was the egg that came first, seeing the oldest recipe known to man and woman is the deviled egg.

Well done, Steve.

Thank you, sir.

All right, we are moving on here.

I'm very excited to welcome my next guests.

They are the hosts of the Milwaukee Mafia podcast.

Joining me now here in the studio are Mr. Eric Walter-Kens and Gavin Schmidt.

Guys, welcome.

Thank you.

Did I see your last name?

Yeah, you do pretty good.

Walter-Kens.

Walter-Kens.

Well done.

It's

phonetically like a, okay.

Good to know.

This

is fun.

You guys live in the area.

I assumed you were both from Milwaukee because of the name of the podcast, but you're both there.

That's what everybody assumes.

Yeah, it's a common mistake.

Okay.

I don't feel so bad now.

Yeah, it keeps us safe.

We can talk about it without having to...

walk down the street.

You can show your face in northeast Wisconsin.

Nobody knows you inside the inside scoop.

All right.

So let's start off here.

Let's tell us a little bit about I'm fascinated by the mafia, the mob.

I love mob movies.

I grew up, well, I grew up reading mob books.

But in my adult life, I've read several of them and I find the whole operation fascinating.

And especially when I worked Milwaukee as a stand-up comic.

The woman who booked the club.

went to high school with Frank Ballastrari, and

she

knew him, and she took us to meet him one night, and I'm a 23-year-old kid, and I'm scared to death, like I'm gonna get whacked.

And

I'm like, well, I didn't even do anything.

Why would they whack me?

Like, now that I'm older, it seems so irrational, my fears, but I did not get to meet him, unfortunately,

but

we'll get to that.

Tell us a little bit about the Milwaukee Mafia podcast.

What made you wanna do this, and what can people expect to hear when they tune

in?

I'll, Eric, I'll let you have this one.

Yeah, so the podcast started, so.

Basically, Gavin has published multiple books on the mafia and things like that.

And since about 2004, I've been obsessed with podcasts, which might surprise a lot of people because a lot of people didn't even realize podcasts existed back then, but they do.

And in 2004, I decided that someday I would start a podcast.

Well, it never really happened until I...

We were trying to figure out when the podcast started.

I think it was probably 2019 that we started up.

I don't

remember at this point.

But we just kind of basically, I threw out the idea one day that, hey, we could start a podcast about the Milwaukee Mafia.

And Gavin, I think kind of went out and started telling his friends about it.

like this possibility.

And I was dragging my feet saying like, well, maybe we'll do it.

Maybe we'll do it.

And he kept coming back to me and he's like, this person said it would be a great idea.

When are we going to do this?

And finally, I'm like, all right, all right, I'm going to sit down.

I'm going to order all the equipment today and then we'll start a podcast.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

I'm glad.

I'm glad you remember that because I don't remember it at all.

But yeah, I had been writing and researching for a while at that point and

another outlet to get the information out there is always something I'm looking for so it seemed great and now it keeps me active because you know some weeks I don't I don't want to do it but yeah but I know if I don't or it's gonna get mad so it keeps me constantly looking for more information so it's it's nice that it keeps me honest with it

what are you ever worried like

And not that you guys reveal state secrets or anything, but I would be nervous if I'm talking about the mob on a regular basis.

And I don't know how active they are.

That'll be one of my questions for you.

But like in Milwaukee, are you worried you're going to go knock that podcast off?

This is like a secret dealio or?

No, no.

It hasn't happened yet.

No, I mean, I can't say that I've never received an email that was a little cranky.

OK.

But.

never an outright threat.

Generally speaking, I have a rule that I won't do stories that are newer than 50 years.

Now, we're reaching a point on the podcast where I'm gonna have to start breaking that rule, but I try to keep it in there because people don't care as much if you're talking about their grandparents.

It's when you're talking about what happened last week that they...

Care a little bit right how much knowledge of the mob like you said you write books again I'm like before you started doing the podcast This is something like when did you get interested in the mob?

It's particularly the Milwaukee mob

very late So when I was in high school, I I had a friend in high school who?

Said that his mother graduated high school with one of the balistries, okay?

And now again, I'm not from Milwaukee originally.

So I don't know what that means.

I'm like,

wait, what?

There's

Italian guy?

Oh my gosh.

I'm like, there's mafia in Milwaukee?

What?

So it had kind of sat in the back of my head since that point.

But no, I didn't actively start looking into it until much later when I'd always known I wanted to write.

So it was when I decided, well, if I'm going to write, I have to find a topic.

And it bounced back to the forefront again.

That's great.

All right.

Eric Walterkins, Gavin Schmidt are here, the host of the Milwaukee Mafia podcast.

Check it out.

We're going to do, we're going to break for the news.

We'll come back.

I'm going to ask them about a couple of Hollywood connections to the mob.

We'll talk balustrary.

I have a balustrary story too, I found interesting.

So I want to ask you guys about that too.

And maybe Jeff Fort.

All right, so we'll do all that after the news.

Lots of fun mob talk coming up.

Great to have you with me, folks.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

nightlight with each wabba we are back and we were talking well we were talking mob we're gonna get back into that but Eric Walterkins and Gavin Schmidt are the hosts of the Milwaukee Mafia podcast and we were talking

I tried to, I tried to make you guys look tough through the window from like

a mob,

a Michael Corleone pretending he was armed photo and then Gavin whips out a copy of a guy thing.

I was like, okay, a

movie I co-wrote.

So I was like, all right, we won't go to the tough angle.

But you have to

remember he is a researcher.

So yeah, I mean, as soon as he saw your name, he started looking at, like, what can I find out about this guy?

Who's this beat character?

It's great to have you guys here.

We're talking about, let's talk,

Alright, you told us about the podcast before the news.

Did Frank Ballastriere, who was probably wildly considered the mafia name in Milwaukee, the godfather of Milwaukee, the rumor has it, or what I heard from, or maybe I read it somewhere, is that he took the rap for his sons.

They were bootlegging or something, and he said it was me and went to jail on their behalf.

Is that a true thing?

I don't know about bootlegging.

I mean, that's an entirely different era, but...

There's what you're saying isn't entirely untrue They had multiple trials in the 1980s there were at least three different major felonies that they went to trial for and on one of them Yes, there was a situation where Frank said if you remove my sons from the indictment I'll plead guilty okay that did that it wasn't bootlegging but yes that

That is something that happened.

I don't know what I was thinking bootlegging is

like from the 20s.

Yeah, but it but it is fair to add that I believe both kids spent time in prison.

They did they still went to prison on one of the other indictments.

Yeah, it's all okay And what have you ever met Frank Ballastry?

No, so Frank passed in 1993.

Okay, so I I would have been a very young man at that point But I did know his son well his younger son.

Okay.

Yeah, well at that point

Let me ask you this.

Where is the level of mob activity in Milwaukee these days?

Like, I always wonder about it.

Like, I read about it in Chicago.

Sometimes

a

huge mafia city with the outfit.

But like, at some of these smaller towns, Kansas City, Cleveland, Milwaukee, what is the level of mob occupancy or activity there these days?

Quite low.

You're going to get a different answer from everybody you ask.

For me, I'm going to say quite low.

From what I hear from people, there's always going to be a little gambling going on here and there.

But the last confirmed mob murder was in 1989.

So whatever it is they're doing in Milwaukee, if they are still active, they're being pretty quiet about it.

They're either great

at it or...

What kind of mob Don was Ballastriery?

Was he more like a Sam Jankana kind of out there and like in the profile or the

the

attention and that kind of stuff was more like a Tony Accardo who was behind the scenes the first

yeah, he's a Sam Jankana kind of guy because he's I don't know if he loved the publicity, but he didn't shy away from it.

He

was he was getting headlines all the time and

which I think is one of his major downfalls is that he wouldn't have had every law enforcement agency out there looking at him if he wasn't constantly opening his mouth about things.

And one of the things we've talked about a lot is that it seems like Frank very much was completely focused on getting things for Frank.

He

wasn't about the mafia at all.

He was leveraging the mafia to get

to

get him

more money, get him things.

Okay.

You know,

he

wasn't really concerned about the institution of the mafia,

per se.

What part of Milwaukee, was he a Milwaukee kid, I assume,

grew

up in Milwaukee, like what neighborhood was

he from?

So he, that's a good question.

I think when he was born, it still would have been Third Ward.

because Third Ward

is the

traditional Italian neighborhood.

It got more or less removed with redevelopment when the freeways went through.

But as an adult, he would be like lower east side Milwaukee.

Sort of, for people who don't know Milwaukee that well, kind of the Brady Street area.

Oh yeah.

You had been talking about the Comedy Club off the air.

You're probably referring to the one that was right off of... Comedy Cafe.

Yeah, probably the one that was right off of Brady.

There was a great story about, well, there was a restaurant there behind the Comedy Cafe called Catel, or not Catel, Giovanni's.

Yep.

And they used to, the Comedy Club used to put us up in a...

They called it a condo.

It was a crappy apartment, but it was like a cross kitty corner from Kata keep saying you tell Giovanni's and supposedly there were bootlegging tunnels from Giovanni's to this guy because the guy that Ran the kitchen or something lived in this condo

And supposedly it was haunted with his spirit.

And I can't remember his name, but there are stories of comics waking up in the middle of the night hearing the bagpipes.

And they'll say something to the club owner.

And the club owner would say, oh, that's really interesting.

And then later they would say to other people, that guy's favorite instrument was the bagpipes.

which sounds ridiculous.

Whose favorite instrument are the bagpipes?

That just

sounds like urban lore to me.

But there was another place right down the street called Cataldos where you could get linguine and clam sauce till five o'clock in the morning.

So we would go out drinking till two in the morning and we'd go to Cataldos.

You didn't have to go fast food.

You could get this great Italian meal at three o'clock in the morning.

Was that a big mob place?

I don't know

about Cataldos, but Giovanni's definitely.

Okay.

Giovanni's was on the corner of Brady and Van Buren.

It's torn down now right and that So so the manager there was a man named Max Adonis and Max Adonis was this big hulking muscular guy, but he only had one arm And he ended up being killed in Giovanni's he was shot in the back of the head execution style in Giovanni's that must be the guy they're talking about then he was He was involved in the cocaine

trade in the early 80s.

Yikes.

So I guarantee, unless there were more than one people killed at that place, that had to be the guy that lived in the.

It very well could have been.

Yeah.

That's interesting.

I don't remember the ghost having one arm supposedly.

I don't remember what.

You know, and maybe other things happened there in earlier years, but he was definitely a well known mob connected guy that was.

I think that's part of the reason they tore it down.

It's because the bad reputation.

I don't know that firsthand, but I suspect it did not help their

reputation.

You guys had a recent episode, maybe it wasn't that recent, maybe I found it.

James Kahn's involvement with the mob, if we could go Hollywood here for a moment, was he friendly with the mob?

I find it hard to believe an actor is in the mob.

So he wouldn't have been in the mob.

Yeah, I I gotta be honest with you Pete like I don't remember So as

I

explained to you before like it's We we have episodes that drop every two weeks and those are current and there's other ones that we drop in between their

Really old so whenever James Kahn died we recorded that episode so I 22 yeah a little while There's there's definitely mob connections so people want to check that episode out.

They'll hear the mob connections, but Yeah, I mean he's he's clearly not a mob guy.

It's kind of you can figure that out from his name that he

doesn't

really have a strong Italian sounding

right,

right, but Yeah, a lot of anybody who's who's

connected to like the Godfather movies in some way, usually has a mob story because the mob loved Godfather.

And the mob started taking on some of the mannerisms and talking some of the ways they did in the Godfather because they loved the movie so much.

So they became like a caricature of themselves.

Isn't that crazy?

Like they weren't even like that, but then Holly, some guy wrote a script and like...

They

were probably like that to some degree, but they're just like fed into that.

Yeah.

I can keep it Hollywood for a minute

because

I believe that there is another actor that has some connections to the Milwaukee Mafia and that's Mark Ruffalo.

Right?

Oh, really?

Yeah.

It's very light.

It's very light.

But yes, but Mark Ruffalo was born and raised in Kenosha.

Yeah.

And yeah, I mean, not him personally, but yeah, he's got some family members who were criminal underworld figures in Kenosha.

So yeah.

Let's not talk too bad about Mark Ruffalo.

No, he's a great actor, but it sounds

like he guys are saying there were some strings pulled to get him in a movie.

Johnny Fontaine

or something.

No, I mean, I think he moved out of Kenosha before, you know, before he was old enough to even know what was going on.

But no,

there

is definitely that family link

there.

That's interesting.

Eric Walterkens and Gavin Schmidt are here in the studio.

They are the hosts of the Milwaukee Mafia podcast.

I always try to get you like Bob Dennis introduced me to you guys and he's a fun guest who I love having Bob on and I've asked him this are there any connections you know of in Northeast Wisconsin to the mob like you always kind of assume there would be in Milwaukee and there are but like what about this area is a half a million people in Green Bay, Appleton this area any connections that you know of

Yeah, I mean, we've done some stories.

There was some stories about them trying to open a restaurant in Appleton.

I know that one of the guys who was involved in prostitution in the 40s for the mob moved into Green Bay later on.

We just recorded not long ago about them bribing the mayor of Monashia.

Yeah, definitely.

What year would that have been?

72?

Okay, I want to say I could be slightly off in this early 70s though and And I when you had given the pre-show Email out I had mentioned that One of the Ballastry trials was held in Green Bay.

Hmm.

They it was should have been in Milwaukee But they asked for a change of venue because they said Milwaukee would be prejudice so

it was

held in Green Bay and

I still would love to know who was on that jury

because

they wouldn't, they wouldn't make the, usually a jury's public, but they wouldn't make it public in that case because they didn't want those people's names out there.

If anybody was on that jury and they feel comfortable, I'd love to hear what sitting on the jury was like because afterwards, the Belastry family did not have some very nice words to say about that jury.

Go figure, a mob guy doesn't have good things to say about a jury.

Who are some of your favorite gangsters to talk about on your podcast?

There, you got one.

I don't know if I would say that I have any, like, favorite that I like to talk about.

You're like your

heroes,

but I mean.

I'm a big fan of, like, the older, like, Vito Gordon Labeni would have been the very, very, very first mob boss of Milwaukee.

And

I really like...

Unfortunately, if you go through and you listen to the podcast, you're gonna find out that the early stuff is kind of light and that's just because the information just isn't there.

But that is like my favorite part of the mafia because back in that era, they were smaller, they were scrappier, they were doing very localized things.

And I think

those make for much better stories where, you know, like most of our listeners are probably really excited about the

Frank Ballasturi going to Renault Nevada and stuff, but that just really doesn't do it for me.

I like hearing about the stuff that's around me.

The early stuff.

That's interesting.

What about you guys have a favorite gangster movie?

Ah, woof.

You know what?

Think about that.

We're

gonna do it.

We're gonna do it another quick commercial.

Okay

Eric Walterkins and Gavin Schmidt are here from the Milwaukee mafia podcast.

We're talking mafia And we've got a steady eddy text.

We got a read to John Murray says what's your fast favorite fast food burger?

That's a great question John.

I'm gonna say I Guess in and out burger Played man.

It's mostly cuz I miss it like

There are good burgers in the Midwest like that too, but I have access to them.

I'll ask these guys that question too.

When we come back after a very short break, it's Peachwaba and Nightlight, the home stretch coming up next.

This is Nightlight with Peach Waba, a little herb on the stream says, what is your secret?

Conrad, do you want to take that one?

I don't know if it's much of a secret, you know.

All right, what is it?

I don't even know

you don't you don't even know your own secrets.

That's how secretive Conrad lives I'll say I don't I was in the mob for a while

I and

that's

why I

invite you guys here like you write a book about me Immortalize me if you would please

you have definitely have the mob name in the mob look the Schwabba skin.

Yeah, definitely

I strike fear into everybody I cross paths with steady Eddie in the 608 says pregunta

That's why it's pray pray goon.

That's the question Huh, we have that in the question of the night montage.

We oh, what am

I?

Put that together.

Yeah two years ago

That's

my favorite one.

I totally forgot

about it.

Sorry about the study.

I didn't mean to snap you.

I hope we're still friends.

He says, what do you think about my idea of making Malik Willis and Jordan Love co-number one quarterbacks?

Both quarterbacks would play a lot.

It would keep opponents guessing.

Both offer unique abilities.

Willie has proven to me he has the ability and should be given a chance to be a starter in the NFL.

Sometimes he appears more effective than Jordan Love.

I think it would be a great experiment.

Make Willis the highest paid backup quarterback and sign him to a five-year contract.

What do you think,

Conn?

I don't like that.

He should be the highest paid backup quarterback in a five-year.

Conrad's so contrarian.

I don't even know what to do with that.

I'm sorry, he's dead early.

He says, feel free to pass along my idea to Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur.

Conrad's got his ear.

He'll tell him.

He says, I feel a Super Bowl could be in the Packers near future.

You're welcome, steady Eddie.

Pretty good.

I can't believe I...

It's embarrassing.

Thank you, Steady Eddie.

All right, we have a few more minutes with our guests from the Milwaukee Mafia podcast, Eric Walterkins and Gavin Schmidt.

Gavin, where can people find your books about the mob?

Anywhere you can find books these days.

I hate to plug that notorious online seller, but that is an option.

But if you've got a bookstore near you, they might have copies, and if not, they can order them.

We know who you mean.

Yeah, but if you could buy it from a mom-and-pop place do that.

Yes, please

fair enough.

Do you guys have a favorite mob movie?

I Do not have a favorite movie.

So

yeah, so As far as if people ask me like what's the best most accurate mob movie I'm giving it to good fellas.

I think good

fellas is a strong Contender.

It's you know, it's Hollywood, but it's fairly accurate

But I'm partial to the old James Cagney, Edward G. Robinson stuff.

Oh, nice.

Wow.

Nice.

Did you ever see Miller's Crossing?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, Cohen Brothers.

That's kind of a forgotten about, you know, because it's the Irish mob mostly, but the Italians are in there too.

And that's a really well done.

That's one of my favorite that doesn't often get mentioned.

That's a deep cut right there.

Yeah.

What about who's in your opinion in the history of, well, I guess,

you know, gangs is the most dangerous gangster.

Who's the worst killer?

What?

So you're not talking just Milwaukee?

You're talking overall?

Well, you could go

Milwaukee if you want, both if you can do it, or if you just want to answer.

You want to take that?

Well, my definite, the Milwaukee guy would be Steve DiSalvo.

Steve DiSalvo was like Frank Ballisteri's right hand man.

and

kind

of did all of his dirty work for him.

So when you hear of violence in Milwaukee a lot of times, his name is not far away.

May not be the guy doing it, but he's very near in connection of

it.

Wow.

What about you, Gav?

Yeah, I mean, as far as Milwaukee goes, I think that's a strong answer.

Other than that, oh, it's hard to say.

There's some great books out there.

There's guys like...

His mom name is like Tommy Karate.

But there's other guys who like, they'll chop you up in the bathtub and stuff.

I mean like just guys who get a dozen contracts and don't feel the least bit bad about doing them.

Yeah,

what do you make of that?

I don't know.

Because you hear stories about like some guys that did have remorse.

They did it because they needed the money or they were...

fearful of retribution, and then there's guys, there was a Chicago mob killer named Milwaukee Phil

El Maricio, who

I always assumed was from Milwaukee, but do you know why they called him that?

He had- He spent a lot of time in Milwaukee.

Okay.

Right?

His wife owned a restaurant, I believe.

You are correct, sir.

Yes, his wife

had

a barbecue

restaurant

on Fifth

Street in Milwaukee.

Oh my gosh, I hate to know what happened in that kitchen.

And what about who do you find the most interesting?

We've got about a minute and a half left or so most interesting gangster or mafia cast member so to speak.

So

that's a hard one that the guy who is always gonna stick with me

As far as Milwaukee goes, there's a guy named Sam Vermilio.

And Sam Vermilio is not a well-known name, but he was involved in a little bit of everything, and he bounced around between Milwaukee, Detroit, and Canada.

And he got deported multiple times, snuck back in multiple times.

And as far as I know, they never figured out where he went.

The last time he got deported, they never saw him again.

But he just...

Like, I've spoken to his grandkids and they're like, we don't know whatever happened to him.

Oh, wow.

So I love his, like, being the mystery man that bounces around throughout the Midwest.

Yeah.

And just vanishes one day.

Where's Jimmy Hoffa?

Parking lot of Miller Park, right?

Well, it's not Miller Park and Miller Park anymore, but whatever it's called.

I've heard

the giant stadium in

East Rutherford.

Oh, no,

no, no.

To

Wisconsin.

Third base of a former county stadium.

Come on.

Do you have a theory?

No.

Yeah.

Did you did you list because we actually did do an episode on that?

Did you listen?

I did not listen.

Yeah, there is a theory that he is buried in under third base of county park.

Yeah, they got the ground

penetrating radar and everything.

Fingers

crossed.

Gavin Schmidt and Eric Walterkins.

Thank you guys for being here in person.

This is so much fun.

We got to do this again.

Thank you.

And

we'll have you

back on because you have another great podcast about Northeast Wisconsin unsolved murders.

We'll do that too.

Tomorrow night on Nightlight, folks, 7,000 apart.

We'll be here performing in studio.

We'll talk to Ellen Burling about the Santa Cruises in Lake Geneva.

My pal Ben Reiser from Madison will talk movies.

And then Steve March-Tourmet makes his first appearance on Nightlight in the studio.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

Conrad, you'll be here, right?

I

think

so.

OK.

No powders.

All right, we're doing it all again tomorrow night.

Thank you to all my guests, Gavin Schmidt, Eric Walterkins, and Mike Clemens, and Paul Gannis, and who else can read?

Johnny Beater, we're coming back tomorrow night.

Good night, Wisconsin.

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