Comedy’s Best and Diane Keaton’s Legacy (Hour 2)

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in the end zone Dance in the end zone.

Have you ever danced in the end zone?

I wish I could say I have I should clarify then say after a touchdown not just gone in the end zone and dance like a maniac

well, you know, they don't let you celebrate

in high school football.

Was that true?

Yeah, but also I never got a touchdown in high school football.

Take all the fun out of it.

You never got a touchdown as a fullback?

You were fullback, right?

Yeah, but I didn't.

Okay.

It was a second string fullback.

Yeah.

So the play time there wasn't, you know, I got one snap for seven yards.

All right.

That's pretty good average.

And then the next play, um, I ran the wrong way.

And then the like, it was a, it was a running back play, you know,

And I went the wrong way to block for him.

And he's still got a touchdown though.

He ran like 40 or 45 yards or something like that.

We'll be back right after this.

I've got to get Conrad talking too.

We'll be back with more fullback talk after this.

Well, it sounds like it worked out anyway.

That's pretty good.

Despite your failings or your misdirect.

I think the thing I made a mistake on is telling the coach I made a mistake.

He wouldn't have noticed.

It's the heck of a coach.

Well, I have a great show for you guys tonight.

We are very excited to have you with us.

It's going to be a fun night here.

We've got two great guests.

Jamie McShane starts us off at 635.

He is one of the stars of the show, Task on HBO.

It is a really, really good show.

A great cast, Mark Ruffalo, Martha Plimpton, Tom Pelfrey.

I think I'm saying his name right.

plays one of the main actors too.

Just a really good actor.

I have not seen this guy before.

And then Jamie Arpal, who's a friend of Nightlight and a very good friend of mine, will be here.

He plays the main bad guy, Perry, and he's excellent.

And last night's episode, he and Mark Ruffalo had a scuffle in a cabin, and it was great.

It was a great fight scene.

So I'm excited to talk to Jamie about that.

If you're interested in catching up on task, folks,

You can catch up.

The season finale will be this coming weekend.

So you got six episodes, the seventh and final episode, I believe, is this weekend.

So we will try not to spoil anything tonight, but it will be great to have Jamie here at 6.35.

And then at 7.20, my pal Mike Toomey swings by.

I was just a guest on Mike's show called Laugh Tracks that he films in Chicago, where he has comedians on.

And Mike is also one of the co-hosts of the WGN Morning Show.

and a very, very funny comedian, a big influence on me back when I started, and he is an outstanding fellow and a great comic and a good guy, so he will be here at 7.20.

Mike and I are going to list our top five favorite stand-up comics of all time.

Conrad, you're welcome to get in on that if you want to make a list throughout the show.

Pete Chihuahua.

Well, natch.

So actually, I'm going to say to Mike, none of our friends, no peers, but that wouldn't apply to you, Conrad, but you could do whoever you want.

I wouldn't want to, like, insult Mike by leaving him off the list, mostly because I wouldn't, but I know I'm not on his list, so I won't avoid that awkwardness.

Now, I know I make Mike Lefhardt offstage, which is not the best for a stand-up comic, but anyway, Mike will be here at 7.20 and we'll have a great, fun talk about stand-up comedians.

And some sad news over the weekend, Diane Keaton died.

She was the star of like a hundred movies and an Oscar winner.

And she is the subject of our, let's just do this now, come on, let's get things going.

This is our night like question of the night.

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What is your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

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This is a good one because Diane Keaton, we did Matt Damon.

Last week and he's fine Matt Damon's good actor.

I like a lot of his movies But then Keaton is one of those Hollywood icons that has passed away.

It's like the end of an era.

She was 79 and Just a real Authentic human being she chose never to marry, but she dated a lot of her co-stars Including Woody Allen Warren Beatty Al Pacino She adopted two kids She was she a lot of times played herself like kind of like

In the sense that Chevy Chase is always Chevy Chase.

In many films, she was Diane Keaton.

And the Annie Hall role was written for her by Woody Allen.

And she won an Oscar for it.

She won an Oscar for basically, and a Golden Globe, for basically playing herself.

But she was so great.

My favorite movie of Diane Keaton's, I'll go first, is Annie Hall.

For which she won the Oscar.

And there's a great line where Woody Allen...

It's kind of courting her and he says that he's been he has to go to therapy and she's oh you see a therapist and he goes yeah just for 14 years and then a few minutes later he makes a joke about penis envy and says I'm one of the few males that has that and Diane Keaton just kind of does that Diane Keaton laugh and says 14 years huh Very funny and she was so good in Annie Hall you just kind of fell in love with her

It even made me like Woody Allen even more.

I already liked Woody Allen as a stand-up.

But that's my all-time favorite Diane Keaton film.

So let me know yours.

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You got a favorite Diane Keaton movie?

I haven't seen a lot of her movies, but I'd say...

either Godfather or Father of the Bride.

Yeah, Father of the Bride.

She was great.

I think that's just a funny movie.

So

it's interesting.

I was I meant to say this before the Godfather is actually my second favorite Diane Keaton role.

I really liked her.

One of my wife's favorite movies is Baby Boom.

She was really good in that.

But I like in the Godfather, she played a totally different role.

Like I said before, she kind of plays the same role often.

and she's really good at it.

But in The Godfather, when she played Michael Corleone's wife Kay, she was just totally different.

And it showed her range as an actor.

She was really good.

It's kind of a, you know, certainly a verbally abused wife.

Michael Corleone was kind of a real jerk, obviously.

And she was, it just, it was just great.

It just showed her range.

She was a really good actress.

Father of the Bride is great too.

Looking for Mr. Goodbar is one that put her on the map.

She starred in that film.

She was a teacher that practiced risky behavior with Richard Gere.

I want to say that was Richard Gere's first, maybe not first role, but kind of a breakout role for him.

Kind of a different movie though, but she was great in that too.

She will be missed.

So let us know your favorite Diane Keaton film folks and we will have a discussion like we often do here at Nightlight.

I have to give congratulations to all the Brewer fans for beating my Cubs on Saturday.

I will say that was... Who would say the most exciting game?

Stressful game.

For you.

Yes.

Isn't it funny how, like, I wasn't really expecting the Cubs to win, but when I went down 3-1, I just didn't feel great that they were going to come back.

However, if they were winning 3-1, I would have been a nervous wreck.

Because somehow, when you have a 1-2 run lead, it's very stressful in the playoffs.

You get that one base runner on and it's like, oh no.

But I don't know, that was like the perfect game to see your team lose because it just wasn't that exciting.

I wasn't losing my mind or anything.

I was just like, eh, they just didn't have it, you know.

But congrats to the Brewers.

They look great.

Yeah, I'm excited for the series against the Dodgers.

You got a favorite in that one, Conn.

I know you're going to say the Dodgers are probably going to win.

Well, you know, we did sweep the Dodgers in the regular season.

You

swept them.

Yeah.

They

didn't want to get some.

When you say we, you mean you and the brewer.

I'm part of the team, all right?

I always make fun of people for saying that, but I do it too.

It's fun.

I would say it's definitely not going to be a sweep.

It's the

doctors and

the playoffs.

They're really hot right now.

Did they win last year?

Yeah.

Yeah, so they're defending champs.

So they've got that experience.

They might be a little more.

Relaxed, but I feel like based on what little reading I've done the Brewers are a little more well-rounded Very well managed.

Yeah, I'm just I'm it's it's really cool to see the the Brewers want to play off series and seven years, so it's I'm happy

No, it's a good one.

It's good.

So good luck, Brewer fans.

It's exciting.

It would be a great thing for Wisconsin if they kept rolling through the playoffs.

Great thing for Milwaukee, too.

Well, how about we go to the Madison?

Oh,

good lord.

You know what sucks about the Badgers?

I'm in a text group with my brother and a couple of friends.

Indiana is for real.

They went into Oregon.

ranked behind them and and dominated them.

They look good.

And it's like, I don't dominate, but it was a good solid win.

And that's where I thought the Badgers would be after three years under Luke Fickle.

That's the same thing I thought too.

I mean, I just don't get it.

And I have a friend that says, well, they don't have the players.

I'm like, well, part of that's on Fickle too.

It's

not all if Fickle's fault, but.

Most of the blame I think goes on him right now.

It's just so depressing.

It's like my Saturday, whatever I don't have to I'm still gonna watch just to see how the game goes, but I

watch one drive It's

just depressing, you know, but whatever there are real problems in the world It's a bummer.

Yeah, this is national Native American day.

So if you have Native American blood happy national Native American day is also

I want to get this right, I don't want to misspeak.

It's National No Bra Day.

Okay.

Which is a big... Like, no

bra?

No, not bra, bra.

Which, I'm not wearing a bra myself in honor of all the no bras out there, but that's one of my favorite holidays.

Aside from, it's right after Christmas and Thanksgiving,

and Arbor Day

is no bra day.

I like to celebrate by not wearing a bra.

So happy no broad day to everybody as well if you're listening a lot of big releases on this day to all about Eve 1950 and two very binge watchable shows Goliath in 2016 with Billy Bob Thornton season one really enjoyed it He's his lawyer bringing a class action suit and he lives in this hotel in Santa Monica He has like three rooms And you know knocked out the walls or whatever and that's his living space great setting but a pretty good show

And then Mindhunter in 2017.

And I think they, it's like a show about the first FBI profiler.

Two very binge watchable shows.

So check those out.

I finally got through, by the way, there was almost a swear word on the show sheet today, because I was typing it as using voice.

And then I was playing video poker.

And I said F blank F when I lost.

With a full house to a better flow.

So I was almost on the show sheet But that doesn't go out to the public and I'm gonna talk about a movie tonight folks that I watch I have to admit I slogged through it friendship.

I didn't love it a couple really funny parts But we'll talk about that too.

I don't know if you saw this Tim Robinson movie, but it was had some good parts.

I Didn't love it.

I was expecting to love it the lovable Paul Rudd is in it

But our question of the night, folks, what's your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

She passed away over the weekend at the age of 79.

I say Annie Hall.

Close second is the godfather.

I feel like it shows Diane Keaton's range as an actor.

Two very different roles.

Loved her.

When we come back, we'll read some of your texts and we're going to tell you about a new show, Conrad Watch 2.

This is Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Great to have you with me tonight, folks.

On this Monday, it's finally Monday.

I love Mondays.

We finally get to talk about showbiz, baby.

Coming up at 6.35, one of the stars of the hit HBO show, Task, will be here, Jamie McShane.

He's been on the show before.

Jamie is a phenomenal actor, and he plays the head honcho bad guy on Task, and it's a really good show.

His episode last night, really the last two weeks, I would say he kind of stole the show.

He had a great fight scene with Mark Ruffalo.

And then a scene the previous week, which was pretty dark and really just really amazing, phenomenal actor.

Mike Toomey will be here at 720, one of my oldest friends from the comedy biz.

Mike and I are going to list our top five stand up comics of all time.

Our question tonight is what is your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

Diane Keaton passed away over the weekend at the age of 79.

I say Annie Hall.

She won an Oscar, and for those of you keeping track, fun fact, Annie's character in Annie Hall was from Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin.

Do we still have that clip of Christopher Walkencon where he plays her younger brother?

Oh, I'm worried, like...

He's talking about steering into oncoming

traffic and these

crazy visions he has, and then he's asked to take Annie and Woody Allen to the airport.

Woody Allen's just like freaking out.

It's one of the best scenes ever.

Here's another fun fact.

Christopher Walken's name in Annie Hall in the credits is misspelled.

That might have been his first movie role or one of his first, and he just had a bit part, but talk about that.

I mean, a legend.

And his name is spelled wrong in the credits.

That's crazy.

So I was talking about this film Friendship that I saw.

Tim Robinson, he's got his own brand of comedy.

Very well respected, I would say within comedy circles.

Paul Rudd is also in the film.

It's very awkward, kind of a cringe comedy.

But I love cringe comedy.

I just felt like he was just kind of an idiot.

You know what I mean?

Like, it

was

beyond cringe.

It was just kind of like, why would anybody give this guy the time of day?

Like when he's just kind of a jackass, you know?

I don't know.

I totally agree.

I mean, the movie I thought was a little bit more funny than I think you're thinking.

I think some of the moments that really made me cringe were just like part of how I like the movie.

I don't know.

Listen, I mean him talking his wife into going into the sewers with him and then losing her.

That was so

funny.

This is a

big town.

They have to rescue his wife.

She's gone for like days in the sewer.

Very funny.

But I don't know.

It's just like the laughs.

The laughs that were there were great, but it was just kind of like I watched it in three sittings.

It just didn't really hold my interest that much Maybe I shouldn't say that out loud But I thought it was okay Paul Rudd always he plays Paul Rudd and everything but he's funny.

He does a great job So that's friendship and then You were gonna tell me about his new show.

Yeah, it's called the cheer company and It came out last night

And it's actually the same wife that he has in friendship who plays his wife in this oh, yeah, and so he's like a he's a project manager for this for this new mall and He's talking about it on stage and he goes off right and sits in a chair and the chair breaks like when he's on stage and All of his friends and everyone are around and they start laughing at him so you can imagine what he does as Tim Robinson and that he gets

He tries to find this chair company that made the chair, and he can't find the company.

Oh, that's funny.

He goes onto the website trying to find the help, you know, the help line or whatever.

I've gone down that rabbit hole.

And there's no one that can help him.

And then he finds an address.

All right.

On a chair that he took a picture of a while ago.

And he goes to this location.

It's super mysterious.

But the dumbest thing about it is that he had a devil's egg when he before that

Possibly the grossest food ever

in the opening scene.

He's that I want to it's just one double day He says I'll have a box for this and they're like you won't eat this three days later.

He eats it and his stomach starts So while he's in this mysterious place.

He has to go to the bathroom That's great goes to the bathroom then someone

No spoilers though.

This isn't too much spoiler.

There's so much else that goes on to it, but I'll leave it at that.

I thought it was weird and funny and I'm kind of curious how to see where this goes.

I'll check it

out.

Based on that recommendation, I will, I had an interesting story, very similar to that.

I was in a green room.

When I first moved to LA, I got booked in this pilot called Laftracks, interestingly enough, because Mike Toomey's show is called Laftracks with Jim Gaffigan.

And we were sitting in the green room and I ate a bagel with cream cheese and the cream cheese was like two weeks old.

Oh

no.

And I had to literally sprint to the bathroom, throw my microphone off, my lav mic, you know, during the taping.

And I got back, I was in there for like 20 minutes, and Gaffigan goes, you know, we could hear you.

No way.

Well, I knew I took the mic off, but I still kind of panicked, because, you know, you never, that's just my, I always feel like I do dumb stuff all the time.

So I thought, but he really got me there.

You know, whatever.

They hear me.

There

have been worse things captured on

microphones from actors

or actresses going to the bathroom.

Throughout.

The show folks, we're going to tell you at some point there's this new show on Netflix called Monster, the Ed Gein story and Paul Vanden Plas from Wonderfully Wisconsin who travels the state with great tidbits and

food tips and all kinds of fun historical stuff.

He went to Ed Gein's hometown and he gave us a little report, not just us, but everyone on Facebook.

And we're going to play that for you a little later.

Compliments of wonderfully Wisconsin.

Paul does great work there.

And we got to have him back on because he's got to be getting close on his hamburger list.

Wasn't he counting down like 100 hamburgers or something like

that?

I saw recently went to 1111 in a in a Fond du Lac.

Hamburger place.

That place is great.

Okay.

All right, very cool.

Well, our question of the night, folks, what is your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

Let us know.

Phone lines are open, but in just a few minutes after the news, I'm very excited to have Jamie McShane here, one of the stars of the hit show, Task on HBO.

The season finale, I believe, is coming up this weekend.

So you've got time to catch up.

There's only six episodes, and they're all fantastic.

It's a great show.

We'll talk to Jamie after the news.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Great to have you with me tonight.

I am Pete Schwab, and this is Night Light coming up at 7.20.

Some comedy talk with my pal, Mike Toomey.

We're going to break down our top five favorite comics of all time.

Our question of the night.

is in honor of Diane Keaton's passing over the weekend.

What is your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

Right now, it is my pleasure to welcome to the show a good friend of mine who also just happens to be a fantastic actor and he is one of the stars of TASC on HBO, Mr. Jamie McShane.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, Pete, thanks for having me back.

I appreciate

it.

I'm just impressed that you want to come back after the last, the way the last two things went.

So

why didn't they want to come back?

It helps to have a little dirt on you.

I'm not going to lie.

It's good to see you, buddy.

How are you tonight?

I'm good.

I'm glad to be here.

Thanks very much.

How are

you?

I'm doing great.

And I'm doing very well.

I get to talk about things I love to talk about every night and have pals like you on the show.

So it is great to have you here.

Before we get into task, do you have a favorite Diane Keaton movie?

Yeah, Heather and I were talking about it.

Mrs. Soful.

Oh, I didn't see that.

That was with Mel Gibson.

It was based on a true story that she helps these two brothers escape from a prison.

It was a beautiful film.

I don't... I have to watch it again because it'd been a while, but I remember really loving it.

Oh, that's great.

Did you see Annie Hall?

Yeah, a long time ago.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that was such an iconic role for her.

Yeah, she's great.

So let's jump right in.

I want to say the last time you were here, or maybe it was two times ago, you were talking about this show you did, and you said it's the best show you've ever been a part of, which got me excited, A, to talk to you about it, but B, also to watch the show.

I've been watching TASC, and I just, it's so great.

Like, the first episode was great, but it builds every week, and it just gets, it's getting so intense, and there's one episode left, but...

How is it watching it like when you said it was the best thing you've ever been a part of and now you're getting to watch it?

Did that hold up?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I'm even I'd say even more so You know because you you read it you film it and then you forget things and then there's you know, there's scenes That I read but I wasn't a part of and you get to watch that and I think you know everyone on the show is so good I'm fortunate to be in it and Tom Pelfrey who plays Robbie is just

He's just mesmerizing in the show, you know.

He's really good.

Where is he from, James?

Jersey boy.

He's a Jersey boy.

Okay.

Yeah, he, um, he started actually in soaps years and years and years ago.

And then I worked with him on Mank.

He played, uh, he played Mank's brother and Joseph Mankiewicz, you know, Gary Oldman's brother.

And then he had a big run on, um, Ozarks.

Right.

So.

Yeah, he's a great guy, wonderful actor.

He, uh, it's so great because, you know, I remember going to Pennsylvania years and years ago when I did stand up and I love that Pennsylvania accent.

And he nailed it.

I thought, man, and he, you know, with the ponytail he's got, I didn't recognize him.

And I'm like, this is just a guy they pulled out of a shot in a beer bar and

you know what

I mean?

Like he's that much.

And he's like, uh, you going down to the park, like that, that Pennsylvania accent.

Yeah, he's great.

Uh, obviously Mark Ruffalo.

We claim him as one of our own because he was born in Wisconsin.

I think he left when he was six months old, but it doesn't matter, Jamie.

He's a Wisconsinite.

I'll tell him that.

Martha Plimpton.

And yeah, so you got a great cast.

Talk about that scene last night.

You play Perry, the head of the Dark Hearts Motorcycle Club.

And you're a pretty bad guy.

That's gotta be so fun, but the fight last night that aired between you and Ruffalo in the cabin, how fun was that to shoot?

It was fun.

We rehearsed it and they really weighed into it.

You know, Mark's a really good wrestler.

He did wrestling, you know, in school when he was young, and then he did that movie, Fox Catcher.

Okay.

He played the wrestling coach.

It was a true story about DuPont, I think.

What's his name from the office?

Steve Carell was in it.

Oh, yeah.

Oh,

yeah.

It was a great movie.

Mark was amazing.

So the stunt guy, Justin Reimer, he knew that Mark could wrestle.

And it works for his character to bring in some of that, whereas I'm just a straight out brawler.

And then we were rehearsing on what to do and this and that.

At one point, Mark is choking me out.

And I said to Mark and Justin, I said, can I bite him?

And Mark's like, yeah.

And Justin's like, yeah.

And the director's like, yeah.

So I bite him and that just sets him off.

And Mark got hurt in that scene.

On one take early on, they moved some of the, I don't know, some bookshelf or something that wasn't there that was there that I throw him into.

And then when I threw him the second time, he expected to brace into the bookshelf or whatever it was.

I don't remember.

And it wasn't there.

So he went further back and he nailed his head.

Oh man.

And he cut it open.

I think he had to get stitches.

I think he wound up having a concussion, but he went through the whole thing.

It was great.

It's very similar to Mayor from East Town.

Mayor of East Town.

It's very realistic.

I loved it.

You know Ruffalo leads this task force Tom and he's just a regular guy though He's not a superhero like he kind of gets his ass kicked a couple times in the show and then with you finally I'm like alright finally he looks like a guy who can defend himself at least because you guys had this really great head-to-head but I Understand he ate a lot of Philly cheesesteaks to put on a few pounds like he looks like a real guy and this is the same guy that played a Detective Fanning and collateral where he was kind of a badass like

Does it elevate your game when you act opposite a guy like that?

Just like I'm sure you elevate his game.

Well, thank you.

I don't know about that.

But yeah, definitely.

I mean, but everyone on the show, Sam Keely, who plays Jason, you know, my kind of underling.

Yeah.

He was fantastic to work with.

I mean, it was just it was just an amazing thing to be a part of.

But yes, it does elevate your game when you when you get to work with people that are that good and you know, they're that good.

Like,

you know, you know them ahead of time.

Yeah.

Of them.

Sure.

My guest is Jamie McShane.

He is one of the stars of the hit HBO show, Task.

And he's got many other great credits.

Check out his work.

If you go

to

IMDb folks, you can lose yourself in Jamie's resume.

It's been part of a lot of great projects.

What I always find it interesting when someone like you, who's worked so hard and

you didn't start acting till you were an adult and then you're opposite someone like Martha Plimpton who was kind of a younger actor.

She was like a child actor.

I think she was in the Goonies.

Is that kind of surreal when you get to the set and you're like, oh my gosh, that's, you know, someone I watched when I was going to the cinema when I was 14, you know.

Yeah, it is, especially even.

Yeah, it is.

And when I when I worked with Gary Oldman years ago, that was kind of that too.

You're like, oh my god, this is someone I've looked up to and

You're like, holy mackerel, I get to be on screen with them, you know?

Yeah.

And Martha's great.

She's a hoot.

And she was wonderful in this, in task.

I think it's one of the best things I've seen her do.

Yeah, she's really good.

And the writing is so good.

Like, there's so many misdirects where you think you got it figured out, and then they keep you guessing.

And I like that it let, that it.

breathes a little bit.

It's not wall-to-wall action and it's not boring.

It's like the perfect and just Mer was like that too.

It's like the perfect combination.

It's just great storytelling.

So for you as an actor, what was it about Perry that like just made you go, I got to play this role?

Ironically, I helped a friend of mine audition for the role of Jason the week before.

And he said, you know, you'd be great for this Perry role.

And I thought, I don't know, we'll see.

you know see if it anything happens then a week later I had the audition so I went back to my friend and he auditioned me we just kind of turned the camera the other way and I felt at first I didn't think I was big enough to play this big you know motorcycle dude and then I thought well Gary Oldman would nail this and Willem Dafoe would nail it and they're you know they're not Willems is much smaller dude um but I've worked with both of them not that I'm at that level but I'm like what would they do that

and they would just sell it.

So for me, I thought Perry's a little, he's a little crazy, and he moves kinda funny, and it really helped me develop the character.

And then Sam Keely, who plays Jason, one day I expressed to him, I don't know if I'm big enough before we shoot, and he goes, no, Jamie McShane.

He goes, I am a sledgehammer.

I come in, I bust everything down.

You are a blade.

He goes,

You talk to someone, all of a sudden they look down and the bellies cut open and they're dying.

I thought that was pretty fun.

Well, and there was

a role with that.

And without doing a spoiler.

Yeah.

No, you just got to check out the show.

He's is he Irish?

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's from Tullamore where Tullamore do the whiskeys.

Oh, buddy, we've

shared

a few

bottles of that over the years.

You and I. Yeah.

That's great.

He is excellent, too.

I think this is the first thing I've seen him in, but do you like, Jamie, you've played all kinds of roles, but playing a role like Perry, what's that like?

I mean, is it, I feel like a fanboy here, but that must have been, so it must be great to play where you get to be this total badass and maybe bring out your own badassery in doing so.

Yeah, you know, Brad Inglesby, who wrote both Mayor and Task.

Every character he writes is so layered.

They're so rich and within such a limited time, you know, it's like he creates these characters like from novels and you learn about them quickly, all of them.

So to get to play one of his characters is amazing because they're so well written.

And then for me, Perry especially was just like, it just fit, you know,

and I

had so much fun playing it and it was great.

You definitely have that side to you.

Just with our kids at the park, you scared me a few times.

All right, again, here's my last fanboy question.

And you are my friend, but has there been any talk from the show or your reps or anything about possible Emmy nominations?

I mean, it's such a hit show.

You've got such a high profile on the show.

For the show itself to me?

Well, or for your role as like a supporting actor.

You know, there's always hope.

there has been you know the the idea has been thrown around I don't know what that means exactly it's also you know the Emmys aren't for another year at this point but hopefully there's some award shows earlier on like Critic's Choice and the Screen Actors Guild Awards and The Globes that you know I think the show Tom Pelfrey Ruffalo will definitely get some some looks and some of the other actors and actresses and hopefully I end up in that boat.

Yeah, it's got to be tough when you have such a great ensemble, you know what I mean?

Like you're you're just surrounded by great talent But that's that's excited.

Okay, so without no spoilers the finale is this weekend, correct?

Oh, did we lose Jamie?

Oh, there he is Do we have you back buddy?

There we go.

Yeah, cool.

So the season finale is this weekend no spoilers or anything but

What can you can you like give us a hint of what's to come or as you probably can't say anything

I'm

trying to get people to the damn show Jamie to sit in front of

watch the show and

It is a great it's just it's a great show.

It's the greatest thing I've ever gotten to work on and and bloodline was pretty amazing for me And this is the first one to surpass it.

It's wow.

It's just it's an incredible show So please tune in

and absolutely folks check out all six episodes you have time before next weekend and I would say episode five was that your favorite to shoot so far without saying what happens exactly you take a pretty dark or I

think for

okay

for I had a lot a lot of

fun scenes and kind of revelations.

It was a very layered, very packed episode for Perry.

Five was amazing also.

All right, so, but start with one, folks.

The whole show is great, top to bottom.

We're going to do a very short break.

We'll come back.

We'll have a few more minutes with our pal, Jamie McShane.

I want to ask you about 1923, too, because I really enjoyed you in that, too, and another great show.

But we'll be right back with one of the stars of the hit show task, Jamie McShane.

On Nightlight with Pete Schwabble, we're coming right

back.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

Great to have you with me.

Dave on the stream says, baby boom.

It's a great fantasy.

That's one of my wife's favorite Diane Keaton movies, too, Dave.

That's a good one.

And PJ says, the Godfather movies.

Jamie.

You know, as an actor, I'm sure you'll appreciate this.

I said this about Diane Keaton before, like I loved her in Annie Hall.

But she's one of those actors that always kind of played herself a little bit or some derivation of that.

But in the Godfather movie, she was so different and just sort of docile.

And I thought it really showed her range kind of because it was such a different role.

I don't know if you agree with that or not.

But

yeah, I think she was so new too.

I don't know what she had done before that.

She was so kind of, not plain, but very, I guess Dossel's the right word, just very sweet without much of an edge or a, not a spark, but she was just kind of calmer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It just, to me, it was like, you saw a different side of her.

She kind of became iconic playing that kind of, not neurotic, but just how her persona was.

And it was very funny and entertaining, but she obviously.

which is a very good actor too.

So all right, I kind of, there's an old saying in show business, never open with a showstopper.

And I kind of did that by talking about task first, and now I'm going to 1923.

But you were very good in that too, your role wasn't as big, but yet another bad guy.

Yeah, he was horrible.

He was a bad dude.

And but what was it like, like that was for Taylor Sheridan, you were out shooting, riding horses.

What a fun role that must have been too.

No, it was a blast.

I got to do a couple episodes in season one.

And then he wrote a lot more for me in season two.

And when you work for Taylor on the Westerns, they fly you out like a week or so, 10 days earlier, and they train you at cowboy camp.

Like they make sure you learn to ride as best you can.

Oh, wow.

And they give you like brand new pair of boots to ride in and a hat and they suit you up.

And it's a blast.

It means just a blast.

You wind up writing every day, usually with a bunch of other guys or girls.

And it's like being a kid and getting paid for it.

Is it like the scene in Blazing Saddles where they're sitting around the fire eating beans?

Is it any?

Is it similar to that?

Yeah, it

was mostly like that.

Yeah, it was mostly like that.

But from the saddle itself, not sitting around.

We were actually on the saddle, and it was usually when you were trotting.

Very well said.

Very tactful.

That was great.

Who are some of your favorite actors to watch?

You know, I know you you had influences.

Last time you were here, we talked about Gene Hackman and how much we both love Gene Hackman.

And he passed away, ironically, just a few days later.

But do you have people right now that you just like when you're flipping around the dial, it's like you can't turn that off because you're such a huge fan.

Well, Gary Oldman, I mean, it just just top notch on that.

Sam Rockwell, I find very interesting.

You know,

have you worked with

him?

No, no, I never have gotten to.

Yeah, he's he's an interesting guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But Gary, a bunch out there.

Gary Oldman is do you watch Slow Horses?

Oh, yeah, I love that show.

Yeah, he's so great.

And I, you know, he's one of those guys who's such a serious actor that I expect him to be so serious or sort of dark when he's in interviews.

But he's so funny.

And he's so much fun.

Like the guy has a great sense of humor, you know,

he is.

And in person, he's he's wonderful.

Yeah, oh god, he's fun.

He's funny.

He's fun.

He's so approachable.

He's just he's great.

I loved working with him.

What about actresses?

Is there someone out there you'd love to work with that you haven't yet or someone you've already worked with that you just think the world of?

I worked with Holly Hunter a little bit.

I thought the world of her.

Viola Davis, sorry.

Viola Davis was wonderful.

I got to work with her.

Yeah, I mean, I think the list is too long to say whom who I would love to work with but there's a lot of them

What about a role?

What about a role like you're so good at doing the bad guy game?

But like, you know, is there a role that you want to would you like to play the hero or the Savior somehow or like a cop or a Someone who's going through a trans issue like some crazy role that you know is really pushes you is there some role out there like that that's evaded you

or that you've probably

I'm waiting for you to write it.

I would love

to.

I would love to.

Yeah, I'd love to play all those things.

Cops.

I've played a lot of cops, you know, different dirty cop or clean cop.

I played on Southland.

One of the few shows in a while where I played a really good guy, you know, and that was that was a blast on that show.

I loved it.

Another great show.

You know, I can't remember who we had on.

It might have been Glenn Morshauer who said, or someone that said the Southland was the most authentic cop show they had ever seen.

I still haven't even seen it, so I gotta

check it out.

Oh,

it's great.

Well, thanks again, buddy.

Before I let you go, I gotta ask you, are you binge watching anything that doesn't have Jamie McShane in it,

or something

that does?

What could you

recommend?

We started the Ed Gaines thing with Charlie Hunnam.

Oh, yeah.

So we've been watching that and then I think that's the last the latest one because I was I was back in Jersey for a while For some family stuff and my mother has very limited television.

So Heather waits for me to get back to binge stuff together

She doesn't Netflix cheat.

That's a big thing like it's hard to wait for your partner to actually watch the show

Go watch stuff.

I she knows I don't want to watch.

All right, that's

fair enough

You worked with him too on sons of anarchy, which must have been cool

with Charlie.

Yeah,

he's a sweetheart.

He's great.

He's a wonderful guy, very, very gentle person, despite the badass he plays and very kind,

very

kind.

Well, dude, you keep somehow ending up in these shows surrounded by great actors.

And I think a lot of that you could attribute to yourself as well.

You're in these great circles and likeness attracts.

So keep up the great work.

We're watching and everything you do, I just love.

Pete, I really appreciate it.

Thanks for having me back, and I do love coming on your show here.

Thank you, buddy.

Despite not liking me personally, I appreciate you coming on the show.

You

know, that has nothing to do with it.

The show is wonderful.

Okay,

thanks.

I mean, I'm so surprised you're actually the host.

Hey, don't sit, Conrad, cut that out of it.

I can't see people.

I love you, you're a dear friend.

You too, love you too, buddy.

Talk to you soon.

Jamie McShane, ladies and gentlemen.

Check out TASK.

It is really a good show.

And if you liked Mare of Easttown, you'll love this.

This surpassed Mare of Easttown, and I love that.

But TASK just keeps getting better every week.

Check it out, folks.

We are coming right back for Act 2.

After the news, it's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Peach Wabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who likes to dine and dash, Peach Wabba.

Welcome back to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen, as we kick off hour number two here on a gorgeous Monday night.

Honest to God, can you believe another beautiful day?

It's basically mid-October.

And I had a t-shirt and shorts on as I was walking today.

Wow, really?

Yeah.

That's it.

No shoes.

I've never seen you in shorts.

It is no bra day, so I was not wearing a sports bra.

Okay.

It's just an honor of the day.

No, it was a beautiful day.

We had a great first hour, folks.

If you're just joining us, our question of the night is, in honor of Diane Keaton, who passed away over the weekend at the age of 79, what is your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

I said Annie Hall.

Conrad said, Teeper by the Dozen?

No.

Father of the Bride.

I mean, Steve Martin's on

that, too.

That's what I'm thinking.

I'm thinking Steve Martin.

I'm

thinking Steve.

And it's in Godfather's.

In the Godfather, yeah.

But a real talent, a Hollywood icon gone at 79.

And so let us know what your favorite Diane Keaton movie is coming up at 720.

Comedian, very funny comedian, a host of the show Laugh Tracks and also one of the co-hosts of the WGN morning show in Chicago, Mike Toomey will be here.

And I don't know, Mike does a Christmas show every year in Wisconsin.

I don't know if he's doing it this year, but we'll ask him when he's here because it's a great show down in the Kenosha Racine area that he's done.

Historically, anyway, for many, many years.

We'll talk to Mike about that.

If you missed our interview with Jamie McShane, you can go to the podcast at civicmedia.us slash nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Jamie is one of the stars of the show Task on HBO and plays the main bad guy and is really good.

Check out the show.

It's a great show.

And it was fun.

It was fun to talk to Jamie and catch up.

We also talked about the show Friendship, which

It's the movie actually not the show, but I just thought it was okay Conrad liked it more than I did I think most people did and I'll be eager to talk to tomorrow night Ben riser is on the show and Ben is a pretty Pretty straightforward guy, so I know he's gonna tell me what he thought about friendship, too It's not like I didn't like it.

I just thought it would be funnier.

I don't know

So we're going to read some of your text now, folks, before we bring Mike onto the show.

Anna in Madison says, Hi, Pete and Conrad, my favorite Diane Keaton movie is looking for Mr. Goodbar.

Yeah, I mentioned that earlier, Anna, with Richard Gere.

That was a different role for her as well.

She played a school teacher who practiced risky behavior.

That's right out of off of IMDB.

And I saw the movie probably 30 years ago.

I remembered it was a little risk gay.

And, you know, Diane Keaton, Richard Gere.

two great leads, a great movie, and a very interesting watch.

I don't remember how I felt about it.

I mean, I remember liking it, but I probably should give it another watch.

Brian from Green Bay in the 920 says, the mom from Family Ties died.

That's not the name, Keaton.

That's Meredith Baxter-Bernie, Brian.

As far as I know, she's still alive.

Edward from the 414 says, sleeper with Woody Allen.

Yeah, they did like eight movies together.

Everyone in the future is sterile except those of Italian descent and people use the orgasmatron instead of having sex.

That one I definitely have to give a rewatch because I remember there was a kid in the neighborhood who had HBO like in 1980.

I remember watching that movie gone.

Man, I don't know what's going on here.

I probably enjoyed more as an adult.

Thank you, Edward.

Barb from Walk of Shaw says, baby, boom, she made that movie.

Agreed, Barb.

I also loved Father of the Bride, the father of the Bride movies.

I was really sad about her passing.

She's a class act.

Yeah, that's great text, Barb.

You really don't ever hear anything bad.

Like she was never in the tabloids for crazy stuff.

She just seemed like a true professional and a pretty decent person too.

Susan from McFarland in the 608 says, I just watched The Family Stone.

But one of my favorites is somebody, something's gotta give.

Right, with Jack Nicholson.

She was an amazing actress and will be missed.

Totally agree, Susan.

Thank you.

Jim from Appledon says, Diane Keaton movie, not the best, but still good.

The first wives club.

Never saw it, Jim.

Heard it was really good.

Great text.

Thank you, buddy.

I thought Jim would be watching the Brewers game.

Although that text came like 40 minutes ago.

He's probably texting us while he watched the Brewers stretch out or something.

Yes.

Yes.

Monica from Mount Horribb in the 608 says, I know you said favorite, but my least favorite stands out more.

Summer camp.

Words cannot describe how truly awful it was.

All right, Monica.

I mean, look, even Diane Keaton's not above the occasional clunker.

Bridget from the 818 says, baby boom, I could watch it every week.

It has all comedy, drama, romance, heart, beautiful scenery, great script, and acting.

Just like that text.

Thank you, Bridget.

Excellent.

So share your thoughts on Diane Keaton with us, folks.

Your favorite work of hers.

I'll read it on the radio.

PJ on the stream says, I said in the beginning when they hired...

Oh, this is about our Badger Talk con.

Did you see this on the stream?

Yeah.

Yeah, I did.

PJ says, I said in the beginning when they hired Fickle that he was a bad choice and no one listened to

me.

Yeah, I wouldn't have listened to that.

I

like to hire

when they hired him.

I thought they made a good, it's turning out not to be so, but Dave on the stream says he can't get the players that he had at Cincinnati Academic Standards.

Okay.

Yeah, that could have something to do with it.

But with the NIL, I thought they adjusted all that.

No?

No.

It's kind of like, I mean, NCAA right now is just like kind of whoever has the most money gets

to play.

It's like the minor league.

It's like pro, but.

Yeah, there's no salary cap.

I wish they would regulate that somehow, like make it.

Everybody gets paid.

I'm fine with that.

They bring in a lot of money, but do it in a more even way.

So all the schools in division one that want to compete, maybe a profit sharing thing like the NFL just to make because right now it's not fun.

It's like, you know, there's the same old teams that are at the top and the Badgers have regressed.

Like they were always top 20.

They'd get a good bowl game, make a good showing.

You're proud of the program.

But now you either got to be going for the national championship or just accept that you're not on that level.

Yeah, pretty much.

That's not fun.

I mean, it is nice seeing Indiana in the race, you know.

I cheer for them.

Sure.

I like Indiana.

I'll cheer for them over any other teams, especially Ohio State.

I'm with you on Ohio State, but whenever Ohio State plays the SEC, I always go for Ohio State.

Or when they used to play, they'd pack 12 or Notre Dame.

I was a big 10 guy, even if it's Ohio State or Michigan.

I don't know if you, how you feel, but I really missed the old big 10.

When it was just 10?

When

it was people not on the West Coast.

I just don't get that.

It doesn't make sense.

It's like 20 teams right now, right?

25 teams or something like that.

So many.

All right, we've got Mike Toomey coming up at 720.

Excited to talk to Mike.

And in honor of Mike, we're going to get a couple of comedy clips here.

I've been waiting.

I've been sitting on this clip for a couple of weeks now.

And what better time to play it when we're about to talk about stand-up comedy in just a few minutes.

Ronnie Dangerfield, part of his set on The

Tonight Show.

I'll tell you my wife, she never went for me.

The first time I called her up, she told me, come on over, there's nobody home.

I went over, there was nobody home.

That wife, she drives me nuts.

She was afraid of the dark, she saw me naked, now she's afraid of the light.

I'll tell you, I'll tell you, actually, I shouldn't tell jokes about my wife.

I mean, she's attached to a machine that keeps her alive, the refrigerator.

I'll tell you my wife, she can't cook either.

My house, we pray after we eat.

I bought a pressure cooker, now I eat off the ceiling.

What a lousy cook.

I don't think meatloaf should glow in the dark.

I mean, she can't cook at all.

She made chocolate mousse, an antler got stuck on my throat.

I'll tell you, my trouble got the wrong doctor.

You know my doctor.

Dr. Vinnie Boombast.

Do you know my doctor?

I saw him last week.

I told him, doctor, every day I wake up, I look at a mirror.

I want to throw up.

What's wrong with me?

He said, I don't know, but your eyesight is perfect.

Ah, you kid.

I know I'm ugly.

I asked a bartender to make me a zombie.

Tell me God beat him to it.

I need danger field.