Sad Songs and Popcorn Picks with Jeopardy Champ Ben Chan

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This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

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My guests tonight, this is fun.

You know, sometimes a guest just slips through the cracks.

We have not had our guest at 635 on probably for what, nine months or so?

Yeah, it's been a while.

And he is Ben Chan, Jeopardy Champ Green Bay resident, maybe Depear resident, Ben Chan.

He's also a professor at St.

Norbert's.

He will be here in the studio to make this week's popcorn pick of the week.

We'll talk to Ben about how he watches movies, what kind of movies he likes.

and I'm sure we'll get into Jeopardy a little bit and I hope Ben can stick around because coming up in the second hour as well, guest wise, our pal Norm Kopesky from Appleton Cigar.

Norm is going to tell us about a really cool contest that is taking place at Appleton Cigar this weekend and I don't want to spoil it but we'll have some cigar talk.

And we'll talk about this contest and a lot of other stuff you can do if you check out Appleton Cigar.

I'm going to ask them about their poker nights.

I really am.

If I didn't live an hour and a half from Appleton, I would totally go.

You should show them that picture of Kim Kardashian.

See what he thinks.

Let's save that picture.

That's a good one.

You know, it is also National One Hit Wonder Day.

I know.

And

I made a little quiz where you have to guess.

what that one hit wonder is.

Should we do that with Ben though?

Yeah, we could do it then.

Yeah, I'll tell you what, give me a couple.

And then Ben and I will do it when he's here too.

So I mean, what comes to mind when you think of one hit wonders?

I mean, one hit wonder like, you know, Betty Davis eyes or we talked about that a little bit last night with some of these bands.

I'll tell you a great song.

A one hit wonder is the band or the song Laid.

The band is James.

It was this huge hit in the 90s.

Stuff like that.

That's a one hit wonder.

You know, we have a, I believe we have a one hit wonder that we use pretty regularly for the bumpers.

Oh, I think I know what you're going to

say.

And it's, uh, you get what you give, right?

Yeah.

You get what you give.

What

is

that?

I can play it for a second.

Oh

yeah.

Oh, that's a total one hit wonder.

I

didn't even know the

name of that song.

Yeah, you get what you give.

And

it's by the new radicals.

The new radicals.

I did remember the band, because when I sent you that song, I was like, I remember the band, but I'm like, for the life of me, could not remember the name of the song.

It's

such a good

song, too.

Oh, it's a great tune.

It's like an anthem almost for the 90s.

Yeah, there's a ton of them.

Laura Branigan,

Gloria.

I stick kind of towards the 90s, maybe one out of the 90s for

a

couple songs, but mainly 90s and 80s.

Sweet.

Well, you know what, before we get too caught up in the one-hit wonders, let's do our question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

What is the saddest song ever written?

Saddest song ever written that is tonight's question of the night.

I don't even know what inspired this But I'm curious as to what you guys come up with 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic Let us know what you think the saddest song is sometimes they're great to listen to sometimes you just want to be sad instead of trying to cheer yourself up Fraudulently you crank on a sad song and you just embrace it in your sad

And you belt it to the moon.

And you belt it to the moon.

Yeah, absolutely.

All by myself who hasn't belted that out.

I don't... I did think about this.

I can't remember what I said on social media.

What was your... God, I can't believe I just asked

for you.

Yes.

All right.

Well, do you want me to play the clip right away?

Because... You could play your

sadist song.

Let's get that out of the way because it's going to be in people's heads all night.

You know, I'm a regular How I Met Your Mother watcher.

Yes.

And one

of the saddest songs I've ever heard is it's called Cat Funeral.

Let's hear 20 seconds tops, 30 seconds tops.

Let me let me set it up a little bit.

Yeah, no one could ever follow.

Marshall, Marshall Erickson, he's one of the he's Jason Siegel and I met your mother.

And in one of the episodes, he goes through a phase where he likes to make photo montages and sing to the photo montage.

And it's it's just hilarious.

Cats sitting for lilies mom cats sitting for lilies mom It's gonna be fun.

It's gonna bring us all closer together

Yeah, that's sad and a funny

way.

It's pretty sad.

Really?

Did that make you tear up when you were watching us at

home?

You know, the photo montages, he's cat sitting for the mom and he leaves the window open in his third story apartment and the cat jumps out the window.

Yeah, funny, not sad.

I don't think you grasp.

But then

they have the funeral in the apartment and they have the little cat's casket.

in front of the window that the cat jumped out.

OK.

That's that's that's quite that's quite enough.

So I'm going to say I'm going to go first.

I'll just my favorite my saddest song.

And it's not I'm probably not going to be on an island here is Danny Boy.

Terribly sad song but in a beautiful way.

Kind of a father son song.

And Ireland just had so much tragedy.

over the years song it's just great it's and I tear up every time I hear it almost no matter even if a bad singer is singing Danny boy I will be brought to tears so that's my saddest song but I have others I had a couple runner-ups too cats in the cradle Sam Stone from John Prine very sad so much so Sam Stone is so sad it's just like

soliloquy.

I don't even really like it's not nearly my favorite John Prine song, but it's very sad.

But a guy who comes home from Vietnam and gets hooked on smack.

Old Lang Syne is kind of sad, but in a good way.

It's a beautiful song about unrequited or first loves reuniting in a grocery store.

Great song.

Tears in Heaven.

And I went online and looked for this because Tears in Heaven is often called the saddest song ever.

Eric Clapton wasn't such a butt munch.

I would probably maybe have put that like number two because it's a very sad song.

Do you know that story, Conrad?

I don't.

Eric Clapton, his son fell out a window in New York City like 30 floors up.

Then somebody left the window open.

You know, Eric Clapton, and I don't want to judge him because accidents can happen.

I don't think he was even there.

He's probably off touring, but the housekeeper or the nanny left the window open.

And the kid died.

So Eric Clapton wrote Tears in Heaven, a horribly sad song.

But a good song.

I mean, Eric Clapton's great.

Anyway, those are my runner-ups and my favorite is Danny Boy.

We've heard from Conrad, the cat, whatever.

Cat funeral.

So what do you guys think?

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5 Civic?

Let us know what you think the saddest song ever is.

We'll have some fun with this one.

Today it is National Daughter's Day So I would like to give a shout out To my beautiful daughter Kate happy National Daughter's Day If you have a national if you have a daughter if you have a national daughter you can wish her a happy day on the text line as well and This is exciting Conrad we have I don't know if you knew this.

This is Kristen Lyrely was on the show the other night correct on the social media The Facebook I like to call it.

Yeah

She said would it be weird like you know what I gotta find out how did she say this?

What we'll look it up is something to the effect that she wants to be the official nightlight gynecologist And I think it's high time we had

yeah, I think so too.

We've been on the air almost two years.

We've never had an official gynecologist You and I most likely are never gonna need one however You never know

You know, I love that she volunteered her services.

She's kind of stretched in anyway.

She has her own show on the weekend here called the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.

She's on like all these gynecological and medical boards, but she wants to be the nightlight, you know, official nightlight gynecologist.

And I think it's high time we had one.

We got a call?

Yes.

Time to take a call.

Let's try to get this through.

Oh, fantastic.

Ollie, how are you?

Oh, I'm hanging in.

Except I might start crying now with these sad songs.

One song that always makes me cry is Hearing Taps.

Oh wow.

My dad was in army for 22 and a half years.

That's always a sad song.

And then I have another song.

Hey, Ollie, hold that thought.

We got to do a really quick break, and I don't want to cut you off.

So we're going to do a fast break.

We'll come back and get your other song, OK?

OK.

All right, my friend, we're coming right back.

This is Nightlight with Peach Waba.

Ollie, phone call part two coming up

next.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Christmas Eve of weeknights.

It is a Thursday edition, folks.

We are asking, what is the saddest song you've ever heard?

That is tonight's question of the night.

I'm going to give you contest information coming up in hour number two.

You're not going to want to miss that.

It's our multi-state go for the green and gold text to win contest.

More details coming up after the news at seven o'clock.

How's that new tower in Milwaukee doing?

100.3.

If you're in the Milwaukee area, W-A-U-K, we're on the FM signal there, and it's outstanding, apparently.

That's what I'm hearing.

I heard good things.

I had nothing to do with it.

It's all Corey Hartman, Casper, and Drew, and all the Eric, you know.

You didn't bring your tools out there?

I own like a hammer, and that's it.

So we were in the middle of a phone call with Ali from the Northwood.

So let's get back.

Ali said Taps was a very sad song for her.

And what else do you say, Ali?

This other song is an old song.

I remember listening to it when I was a kid.

And I think it's a newer version that Elvis Presley sang and it's called Old Shep.

And it's about his dog.

Everybody

should listen to that.

That is a sad one.

I haven't heard that in years.

I remember that's a very sad song though.

Those are outstanding choices, Ollie.

As always, I expect nothing less.

Thank you so much and have a wonderful evening.

You too.

Take care.

All right, thanks.

We got great social media responses to our question of the night, too.

Ben Chan, ladies and gentlemen, is going to be here in about 10 minutes.

Jeopardy!

Champ, St.

Norbert Professor.

Ben Chan will be here in the studio, very much looking forward to having Ben back on the show.

And then Norm Kepesky at 7.35.

He is going to bring sticks for all.

You know what a stick is, Conrad?

One of those cigar things.

That's Tim

Wright.

Remember, we had Hank and Herschel in here.

Yeah.

I've never heard that term before.

Someone asked Norm about that.

But Norm will be here at 735.

Our question of the night, what is the saddest song ever written?

Please feel free to share folks and we will read your text on the radio if you're listening on the stream or watching the radio on the stream at ex Facebook or YouTube you could drop us a stream comment there and Give us a like or a follow if you're so inclined in the best way to text also I Don't know if it's the best way.

It's a good way.

It's a good option.

Yeah, you got to have the app anyway to play the contest so on Social media rich our bell rich teller Rico says blind man in the bleachers that was like

A really cheesy 70 song, but it was about a guy who loses his dad and his dad was blind and could never see him play sports.

It was a very sad song.

But I don't know if I heard that now.

I might think it's cheesy.

I shouldn't say it's cheesy because when I was a kid, it really affected me.

Obviously rich too.

Thank you, buddy.

Danny Weals says let down by Radiohead.

The song paired with the end scene of the bear season one.

I gotta go back and give that another look.

Thank you, Dan.

I said Danny boy Tom Clark a very funny Tom Clark Milwaukee native son says tangerine by Led Zeppelin great choice Tom What is one was Tom on the show last?

He was on I believe he was on for a popcorn pick

was he yeah, let's get back on Allen wiper.

It says alone again naturally.

Yes, great choice Allen

And what else we oh Vince Moranto Vince's response last night on the text for the spring scene song was outstanding Really did his homework and he says today.

I tear up when I hear mr. Bojangles probably cuz I drinks a bit Thank You Vince Vince by the way is making the popcorn pick next week on red mark that in your calendars.

That'll be fun Our pal Eric Rathsack the front man for ask your mother says he stopped loving her today George Jones.

Yeah, that's a

That's a sad one, too.

Oh, my pal, Matt Hansen.

From the Marinette School District Conrad, we rarely hear from the Marinette School District.

Actually, scratch that.

He is no longer with the Marinette School District.

Okay.

I think he's with the Linus.

He's just a school district kind of guy.

Matt Hansen says, Teddy Bear.

Red Sovine.

I don't know that song.

Matt, great to hear from you, though.

Please continue to text on a nightly basis.

Happy to read them.

Boris Hamilton.

Our pal on very funny Boris Hamilton says operator Jim Croci.

That's a great choice.

But that's not the way it feels.

And wildfire, Michael Martin Murphy.

I've heard that song my whole life.

I don't even know what wildfire is about.

But the Simpsons made fun of it once.

I've never really listened to the lyrics.

I will now though.

Thank you, Boris.

Tony Zimmerman, Civic Media's own Leonard Cohen, famous blue raincoat.

I don't know.

You know what?

That's one of those songs I might know.

He put a YouTube link.

Can you pull that?

Yeah.

At least we could do.

Thank you, Tony.

And then we'll get to the text line here.

Ben Chan coming up in just a few minutes.

We gotta do a thing on Nepo Babies.

This Steven Spielberg's son, Sawyer Spielberg.

Here's the deal.

Acting is acting, music, whatever.

You're a Nepo baby, that's fine.

But I cannot stand when the Nepo babies say, well, if anything, my last name worked against me.

Sure it did.

Just not true.

Ridiculous.

Although I do applaud people like Nicholas Cage, who his actual last name was Coppola, but he changed it.

I admire that.

I think people probably still knew who he was.

Anyway, we'll get to that.

I'm going to do a whole Nepo baby segment, folks.

You're not going to want to miss that.

Uh, popping over to the stream.

Daniel Barry sports highlights.

Happy Thursday.

Hey, everyone.

Hey, Daniel.

Happy Thursday to you as well.

Dave on the stream says, when beneath my wings.

That's a sad one.

Absolutely.

What do you like, Dave?

The Bette Midler version or the Lou Rawls version?

I like the Lou Rawls version.

Dave also says Brian's song.

I don't, I know that's a movie.

I didn't know there's a song.

Sydney, Sydney Frankenstein says, uh, Frankenstein, I should say, I just did the.

Young Frankenstein yeah, it's Frankenstein Sidney says putting the dog to sleep by the antlers I Don't know that one, but thank you Sidney Sidney says also.

Oh, we got that one fixed I think Sidney says have you ever seen the rain by CCR?

Creighton's Clearwater Revival underrated sad song.

Yes another great one Sidney love CCR And Dave Coon is verifying good one said that's kind of fun

when the textures talk to each other.

Yeah, I love that.

We're all friends.

Hey, when we come back, Jeopardy Champ, Ben Chan will be here to make the popcorn pick of the week.

Don't go anywhere, folks.

It's Peach Wabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

It's time for the

nightlight popcorn pick of the week where we recommend a movie that you'll either enjoy or won't Here's your host Pete Schwabba.

I like those options.

You'll either like it or you won't Welcome back to nightlight.

This is exciting folks.

I'm very thrilled to welcome my next guest here to make the popcorn pick of the week

when it comes to appearing on Jeopardy, and also being a professor at Lawrence University, this guy is top notch and an absolute rock star, Mr. Ben Chan.

Welcome back, buddy.

Hey, thanks for having me, Pete.

It's always nice to be here.

I think I was banging on the window about a year ago.

And I was like, oh, wait.

Were you doing a bar crawl or

something?

You're in here and just like, God, I'm on the air right now, dude.

That's right.

I forgot about that.

So we'll talk about the Jeopardy stuff.

We'll talk about your new position at Lawrence.

That's exciting.

But how are you in general?

How are you doing in this thing called life?

Things good?

Yeah, things are really good.

It's a transition.

It's been kind of a transition.

uh, after my last jeopardy appearance, I'm kind of out of the immediate central jeopardy pool.

And also my job is with transitioning at the same time this past, you know, six months.

Um, but it, you know, life is all about transitions.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I'm not even smart enough to know what the central pool of jeopardy

is.

So we'll talk about that too.

It's too complicated after we

do the, uh, the popcorn pickles.

So let's jump in.

Um, let's talk movies.

What?

Yeah.

Ben Chan, you're obviously an incredibly bright guy.

Jeopardy or not, you're a college professor.

You're well-schooled.

You've impressed us on a national level on a game show.

What kind of movies do you like?

I like a lot of movies.

I think Roger Ebert had a really good attitude about this, right, that he would review movies on their own terms, right?

So, you know, there are a lot of genres that he probably wasn't a fan of, but if...

he would try to judge whether the director accomplished what they were trying to accomplish.

Interesting.

And so I think I'm the same way.

There's genres I enjoy more, genres I enjoy less.

But I like to have a wide exposure to things.

But the things I really love, there are movies that can really change your perspective in ways that not many art forms can do.

I know, I think, you know, of the popular recent movies, I think Parasite was like that.

Parasite, I think Parasite's given like a framework for millions like changed people's framework of thinking about power and income, right?

And it's a very powerful kind of metaphor and very powerful struck narrative structure that is like

global implications in terms of how people cope with life.

Absolutely.

And it did well at the Oscars,

too.

I mean, it

was very well recognized.

That's a great answer.

And I expect nothing less than a well thought out answer from someone like you, Ben.

So do you prefer to go... So basically, you don't stick to typically one genre.

You like... And I'm the same way.

I'm not really a horror guy.

That doesn't mean I don't really enjoy an occasional...

really well done horror movie at times, if that makes sense.

Yeah, my wife is really into horror and she's gotten me into it, which I'm glad for, because I think I wouldn't.

There's so many choices, right?

So it's hard to take that step on your own if it's something, you know, aren't drawn to naturally.

So, but it's opened my eyes to things, right?

Because it, you know, horror, I think, you know, is deeply kind of Freudian generally, right?

And kind of is a working out of.

our, you know, personal or cultural deep fears in a way that often we don't get to raise in a polite, polite conversation.

Yeah,

right.

Do you have, did you see weapons?

Oh, yeah, I did see weapons.

Yeah, I think that's the last thing I saw in the theater.

Yeah, same here.

I enjoyed it.

Again, not a horror guy, but really solid movie.

I really liked it.

Um, all right.

So how do you like to watch movies?

Ben, are you a theater goer?

Do you like the comfort of your own home?

I would prefer the theater, but you know, probably the ratio is nine to one home to theater.

Yeah.

And I think I went to grad school at UCLA in Los Angeles and sometimes people ask me, like, Oh, do you miss things about Los Angeles?

And there are a couple of things I miss.

But the number one thing that comes to mind is that they still have a lot of beautiful single screen theaters.

And they do.

you know, nice restored prints.

And because it's a film town, you'll go to like a Saturday revival of Meet Me in St.

Louis and the theater will be full at 10 a.m.

And you might be sitting next to like Jason Siegel.

And you know, it's a bunch of film editors.

Yeah.

And they're super, you know, they're great audiences.

They're super appreciative.

And then sometimes you might get, you know, somebody who did the casting for a 1960 show, be in the audience and do Q&A after.

Right.

That's really

I'm totally

with

you.

I one of my best experiences or when my wife and kids would leaving back to the Midwest and I was out there alone I would take full advantage in terms of going to movies like and I remember specifically I saw Mission Impossible 3.

I think it was 9 a.m

at a Hollywood

theater.

I get

coffee.

I saw Collateral in the morning.

I saw South Park with my buddy Mike Siegel.

Yeah, you can see anything almost any time of day.

And that is something I

do.

In the full theater, too, right?

In the full theater, yeah.

And that's nice to watch with other people.

Absolutely.

All right, so what is your favorite snack?

Let's say you're in the theater.

What kind of snacks do you go for?

Ooh, I like everything, you know.

usually money is

these prices.

Oh, it's insane.

But that's a good question.

I mean, I think the first thing that pops in mind is, you know,

pretzel bites, pretzel bites with some nacho cheese.

With the cheese, oh man, I

wish I didn't like that.

It's so,

so bad.

And nachos too, like that

cheese is what it is.

Yeah, if they would just

sprinkle shredded cheese on there and heat it up, it'd be different, but

I

don't know what the hell I'm eating when I'm eating nacho cheese.

I wish they had more, you know, I'm a big caramel corn fan, right?

Yeah.

I'm kind of surprised that more theaters don't have that.

Actually, that's one of the things the Arclight Theater in LA was famous for.

They had like fresh made caramel corn.

And love that you know these L.A.

theaters.

That's where

I saw collateral is at the Arclight.

I don't think it's open anymore.

Or is it the Cinerama dome?

I think Cinerama.

Yeah.

Oh, that's a great.

All right.

So you're not fussy when it comes to staying.

What about at home?

Do you watch it?

Do you make different snacks when you're at home?

Uh, we used to make popcorn.

One of the things, if any listeners have tips on, um, dealing with dogs, two dogs in the house who are resource guarding and getting into arguments about that.

So we can't have snacks on the couch anymore because they'll, they might have a disagreement about who gets to be closer to the human snacks.

But, um, uh, at home.

I've actually, that's been one of the things I talked about.

I've been attending to a lot of deferred maintenance.

Some of it is home projects, some of it is my body.

I think I put on 20 pounds.

Living that celebrity life.

Yeah, during my jeopardy life.

And so I've been trying to avoid the movie snacks at home, at least.

But do it other ways.

Have a movie snack.

But if

you do figure it out, let me know.

I could drop a few pounds.

So I'd say, could the go-to snack right now?

If you go to one of the Asian markets in town, they have these things called jackfruit chips.

Jackfruit's a tropical fruit, and it's like a pretty healthy thing, but it's delicious.

It's like a sweet tropical fruit.

They're only like three ingredients.

Jackfruit, salt, and chips.

I didn't know they came

in chip

right.

Yeah, that's great.

You should look for jackfruit chips.

Oh, that's really cool.

Okay.

What about, all right, let's talk about this.

I know you like to enjoy a cocktail every once in a while.

What do you have?

Have you ever snuck?

Booze into a theater or or what do you make when you're at home?

Oh, I Have I probably have snuck booze into a theater when I was younger It's been a big development that now Marcus theaters sells booze which is nice so I can

And it's actually, that's the most reasonably priced item at the concession stand.

Is booze.

Yeah, it's hilarious.

Yeah, it's under 10 bucks for like, you know, a tall boy or whatnot.

So if

you want a box of goobers, it's $12.

If you want to drink, it's nine bucks.

That's pretty,

okay.

I'd like to, Greg Marcus seems cool.

I want to meet Greg Marcus.

That's on my bucket list.

Don't

you run in those circles now?

You guys are both, he's a celebrity.

I gotta put it out there.

Yeah, come on.

Yeah.

Let's use this as a platform.

Conrad, take a memo.

We gotta

get, we gotta get Ben in touch with Greg

Marcus.

Doesn't he seem?

He seems like a real nice guy.

He's seen his Instagram.

He's doing Instagrams with his employees, and it seems not forced.

Seems

genuine?

Yeah, all right.

All right, so what about at home?

What do you made?

Do you have a favorite cocktail or something?

Ooh, it kind of changes.

I think the first thing that pops to mind, I would, a martini.

Nice gin, classic gin martini.

You go gin at the vodka, huh?

Yeah, I like, you know, I like that.

A lot of people I know don't like the, you know, the, what is that?

Juniper in the

gym.

Oh, okay.

And, but I like it.

I like both things, the vermouth and the jam.

You're saying that defensively, and I don't mean to make you defensive about

your cocktail of choice.

Ben Shannon's here, folks.

He is a Jeopardy champ and also a professor at Lawrence University.

He's here to make the popcorn pick of the week.

Norm Kupesky is coming by at 7.35 for some cigar talk and a talk about a really cool contest.

They're having an Appleton cigar this weekend.

And stick around because after the news in hour number two, I'm going to give you the keyword for our civic media go for the green and gold text to win contest.

Our multi

state text-to-win contest keyword coming up after the news in hour number two.

But for now, we are inching eerily close to Jeopardy Champ Ben Chan's popcorn pick of the week.

So how do you feel about previews when you're in the theater?

Do you like them?

This is such a

divider.

No, I mean, they're just, I guess I could go.

The main complaint is many of the previews are bad now.

Yeah,

like trailers are they give away too much.

Totally

like the art of the way

and that's an art to

cut a

trailer without giving too much away.

It's an art form.

Absolutely.

So the trailers, there's some good trailers, but most of the trailers are just trash.

Who's make that's it's very surprising.

My trailers are so bad.

All right.

One more question for you, Ben.

People are being loud nearby you and your wife are there trying to enjoy yourselves.

What do you do?

Do you confront them?

Do you shush him?

Do you give him the stare?

Do you get security?

What's the deal?

We probably go at times where it's not that busy anymore.

We typically go like Saturday afternoons, and so maybe the main thing would be the only loud people we run into are, you know, seven-year-olds.

Kind of

movies.

Did your wife ever get out of line?

Do you ever have to shush

your wife

in a movie?

No, I mean, I think that the main tension is at home, right, where...

Sometimes we'll be watching a movie and then she'll look at her phone and be like, we're watching a movie

together.

But the worst thing is when someone looks at their phone, my kid used to do this.

Wait, what did he say?

I'm

not telling you.

Sorry, put the phone down.

She doesn't do that.

All right, that's good.

All right, Conrad, I think we are ready for Mr. Ben Chan's popcorn pick of the week.

Conrad, if you please.

All right, Ben, the kidding around is pretty much over.

What is the popcorn pick of the week?

It's tough.

Can I give two?

Yeah.

All right.

So there are two.

They're streaming.

They're both classic.

They can be streaming, right?

Absolutely.

Any movie.

There are no rules.

So one that came to mind recently.

Actually, this is something I saw.

It's an old movie, The Red Shoes.

I think it's 1948.

Wow.

I've

never seen

that.

Oh, Red Shoes.

Yeah.

That's one of the great.

I don't know.

It's top.

50 movies of all time.

Yeah, exactly came back to my attention Ken Jennings.

It was one of his five picks But it's one of my favorite movies.

I saw it a few times But one time I saw it had a special screening at the Smithsonian in DC and the editor Who was married to one of Powell impressive burger?

I forget which one and I forgot her name.

She's Martin Scorsese's editor.

So she's won a couple of Oscars

But she was in attendance.

She gave a little talk before the screening.

And she said, Powell and Pressburger, they're coming out of World War II.

And they had been told that there's so many things worth dying for.

Democracy, Great Britain, whatever.

And they wanted to make a film that showed that art was worth dying for.

That is so

cool.

So yeah, the red shoes, I think it's on HBO Max.

The red shoes on

HBO

Max.

Maybe I'll stick with that one.

And it's

got a 98%.

So we're

going to

do a really quick break.

Then we're going to come back and get pick number

two.

You're

getting two picks.

Didn't this happen a

couple of weeks ago?

Somebody gave two picks.

That's even better.

Get more referrals.

Definitely.

So, OK, Ben Shannon's here, folks.

Jeopardy Champ.

We are coming right back to get his second popcorn pick of the week.

We'll talk about Jeopardy.

We'll talk about One Hit Wonders or, no, Sad Songs, right?

We'll

do Sad Songs.

I have a pick

for that, yeah.

All right, sweet.

It's Peach Bob and Nightlight.

We're coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.

great to have you with me on this beautiful Thursday night here we're coming to you live from downtown Green Bay Broadcasting statewide on a popcorn pick Thursday night folks in just a few minutes after the news at the top of the hour I'm gonna

We're going to dig into the Go for the Green and Gold text-to-win contest, our multi-state text-to-win contest here at Civic Media.

Great prizes.

I'm going to give you more details after the news, and then I'll give you the keyword as well.

So make sure you don't go anywhere.

Right now, my guest in studio here is celebrity champ Ben Chan.

And I'm not just saying celebrity champ.

Aren't you like the third highest grossing person ever on Jeopardy or something like that?

No.

In the regular set, when I...

Left I was the 16th highest

in the

regular season But that's pretty good

It's really good cuz Conrad went on that show about ten years ago and how'd you do buddy?

Yeah, I was 16 16th from the bottom right above me All right, Ben is here.

He just made the popcorn pick of the week.

He's got two of them We heard his first choice was the red red shoes from 1948

I'm putting that one on my list, and then you had another one.

Ben, tell us what your other popcorn pick of the week is.

So this is, yeah, this has shaped, I'm a big foodie, actually, despite, maybe.

That's my number one

passion.

You're a medium-sized foodie.

I wouldn't call yourself ripping on your health earlier.

I don't think that was

warranted.

So one of these movies that really kind of shaped my culinary sensibility.

I think it's the best food move.

There are a lot of good food movies, but it's a Japanese movie.

It's also an HBO Max.

It's called Tampopo, T-A-M-P-O-P-O.

It's from the 80s.

It is...

The genre is a Western.

It's it's

a

ramen Western.

So it has like the trappings of Western as

opposed to speaking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So somebody exact.

It's quite funny.

Oh, wow.

And the main it's kind of altmanesque in that it has many different interlocking threads and vignettes.

But the main plot line is a young mother, single mother who's trying to open a ramen shop.

And her son is being bullied.

She's not very good at making ramen.

And then a trucker happens to roll into town.

Wow.

Who's a ramen expert and helps both her and her son get, get, you know,

her son in school and her with the

ramen shop.

I know some stuff about movies, but mostly I'm just a fan.

And you just named two films that I have not seen that I can add to my list.

I appreciate that.

So great choices.

Ben Chan, his choices are Red Shoes and

Tampapo.

Tampapo.

Tampapo.

Tampapo.

I guess it means dandelion in Japanese.

Tampa police officers.

Tampapo.

Okay.

Tampapo.

Ben is great to have you here.

Let's talk.

So what is the latest?

I know you made a return appearance on Jeopardy.

For those that don't know, a couple of years ago, Ben had like an incredible run.

And here's what I love about your Jeopardy run.

It was packed with drama.

because you went, I was reading about this, you went up, then you lost big, then you came back and cleaned house.

So you had that drama.

Then you see you forgot about your jeopardy greatness.

And then you couldn't play because of COVID and you had to get back in the game and you went on a run again.

It's like you've had a really cool run.

Yeah, I think it's, it was very eventful.

Yeah, it's more eventful than...

Most runs on temporary

so all right.

So well, yeah, obviously if you're like 16, that's incredible So what do you have a favorite memory coming out of that whole experience?

You've had time to reflect on it now

There's so many actually it's filled with good memories.

I think you know The it's hard to beat the first win Because there's that opens up everything

I mean, I think that's the you know, I don't know if it's That was my biggest fear because I knew I was pretty well prepared.

I knew I could you know make some noise, but That it's hard to get the first one because

you're

playing some against somebody who's already played they're probably pretty good Interesting in the subsequent games You have advantage because you're not playing against somebody who's played before and

They're also random.

Whereas in your first game, you're guaranteed to play a non-random person, namely somebody's one.

Right.

Wow, that's interesting.

And then I would imagine your first time, too, is when your nerves are at peak, or is it when you get close to setting some kind of milestone?

Like, how did you do that?

Yeah, no, it's

definitely the first time.

And then after that, the thing about it's like, if you've been in...

show business or whatever.

It's

a

well oiled machine, right?

So it's like, you have got 10 minutes till the next show.

And so it's, you don't have time to think about

what's happening.

You have to have, and I'm just saying this, I'm, I'm guesstimating, but, or making a presumption, but you have to A, be really smart, but B, be able to answer these questions quickly on the spot on national TV.

So for people that can do that, you may be played people that were smarter than you, but they couldn't handle the pressure of

thinking quickly on TV, maybe?

Yeah, it's I think it's I had the advantage of I got I played fake practice games with people.

So

you get

into that rhythm.

You know, I think, you know, good people.

It's it's hard to do that if you're not in the groove.

Yeah,

it's like, you know, ring rust or whatever, right?

Like you have to be in that mindset and have the right threshold for.

guessing or buzzing in when you're not sure you know it, because you are confident enough that it'll

come

in time.

And then if you're not in that groove, you're going to be either too hesitant or too aggressive.

That's so cool.

Can we keep you past the news?

Can you do another second on this?

We'll do a little kind of put together a one hit wonder sort of thing we could we could square off.

I know, you know.

I would love to, I would love to, I would love to

bring

it.

All right.

Ben, uh, we found a chink in the armor.

Uh, Ben just admitted his weakness on the air.

So folks, we're going to come back.

He's going to do another segment with us.

I'm going to give you all the info on the, uh, civic media.

Go for the green and gold text to win contest.

Our multi-state contest that is coming up next.

And we've got Norm Kepesky here at 7 35, uh, talking cigars and a really cool contest at Appleton cigars.

Peach Waba in nightlight.

We're coming.

Coming back for act two after

this.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Peach Wabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who once tore his ACL playing chess, Peach Wabba.

Welcome back to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Oh, we are having a time tonight.

This is so much fun.

It's great to have you here on this Thursday night.

A fun show, two great guests, and a fun question, some great topics.

We're having a blast here.

For those of you just joining us in the first hour, we did the popcorn pick of the week with our pal Ben Chan, Jeopardy Champ Ben Chan, who picked the movie The Red Shoes and Tampopo.

So two films I have not seen.

I'm very excited and two classics.

So those are great choices as usual.

We usually get pretty good responses on the Popcorn Pick of the Week are great choices.

Norm Kepesky will be here.

We'll be back to Ben in just a few minutes.

Norm Kepesky will be here at 7.35.

The owner of Appleton Cigar.

who also joins us frequently on the show.

And he's going to tell us all about this really cool contest they have going down there.

And it's this weekend.

So you won't want to miss that.

And as I mentioned, we'll be right back to Ben shortly.

What else did we miss Conrad?

What are we talking about in the first?

You're standing right next to me.

You can just tell me.

Conrad

is trying to, we're having an issue with the screen and we're trying to hone in and figure out what it is.

So if we have some technical difficulties, stay with us, folks.

You can tune in on the app as well, though, if that's easier or just the old fashioned radio.

What's up, Ben?

You seem concerned.

Your browser can't access your devices.

Try restarting your browser.

Con, have you tried that?

We've

got a Jeopardy

Champ

in here giving us technological support.

I'm reading from the screen.

So, folks, this is exciting as all of you, or most of you probably know, all week we've been talking about our civic media go for the green and gold text to win contest.

It is our multi-state contest where we give you a keyword during the hour and you have to text in that keyword on the app, on the civic media app, that is the only contingency.

You have to have the app to play.

And then I'm going to give you the keyword in about 10 minutes.

You text that in and you are eligible to win 200 bucks in cash and gold jewelry.

Do you do jewelry, Ben?

I think watches are my

jewelry.

I don't know.

I have a Fitbit.

I don't

know if that

counts as jewelry.

But if you enter the keyword, you're eligible for the daily prize of the cash and jewelry, and you're also automatically entered in the grand prize drawing.

And the grand prize is pretty cool.

It's two club level indoor seats to Green Bay versus Minnesota.

That's professional football.

And it's a Green Bay home game on November 25th at 12 p.m.

The Green and Gold squares off.

against, as Conrad would call them, the purple people eaters.