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Popcorn Pick and Sad Grocery Store Songs (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu Sep 11, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Peach Wabba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who considers a silver medal, a participation award, Peach Wabba.
Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
Great.
to have you with me on this Thursday night.
Folks, consider this across the state.
Consider this a pre, a Packer pre-pre game.
Because I know everybody wants to watch the Packers, not everybody actually, but some people.
So we hope you join us for a little while.
In the meantime, we have a great show tonight.
When I say we, I don't mean Conrad and me.
I mean, the wonderfully talented
Amanda Nimmer, who is filling in for Conrad tonight?
Hi,
Amanda.
How are you?
Not too bad.
How are you?
I haven't seen you in a long time.
It's been a
while.
Did you recognize me when I came in?
I did.
Without the mustache and the sideburns?
I didn't even notice the sideburns.
Well, I was joking.
Obviously, these aren't great sideburns.
These are just like incidental sideburns, I think.
As long as you don't go too far with your sideburn.
Journey
too far
too far is when you let him keep growing and then they become mutton chops
Conrad said recently he was gonna grow mutton chops, and I didn't believe him.
I don't think he can He should yeah, I think he could do it.
I look he could pull the look off But he said he didn't think he doesn't get like facial hair in that area
and
some kind sometimes guys get you know different.
I don't know
Well, November is almost here.
So no shave, November.
Is that no beard, November or something?
It's
no shave, November.
No shave, November.
Can I not shave my armpits or my legs?
Is that what you're telling me?
Why are you doing that now?
Well, it's the winter's coming up and I like to tan.
I've never been to a tanning bed.
I don't tan at all.
You tan?
No, no, no.
I've seen Final Destination.
No.
What happened in final destination?
Oh my god.
I think it's the first one or the second one where they lock the girls in the tanning bed.
Oh, and then they like melt.
Yeah, no.
No, no, no, no.
What do they do?
They just get a really ridiculously evenly balanced tan and look like dynamite?
Sure, that's the alternative ending.
Are
you a horror fan?
You kind of are.
Kind
of.
I'm a horror fan, but I'm not a gore fan.
Like
just, you know, slasher flicks.
Not
really.
I care about a story when it comes to movies or TV.
Listen, I get it.
I'm totally with you.
I can even watch a horror film if there is a good story with it.
And it's not just gore for gore's sake.
So I'm totally with you there.
It is great to have you here tonight.
Thank you for filling in.
I know you have kind of a drive to get here, as do I. And it's great to have you filling in for Conrad.
Conrad is taking some R&R.
He is not overstressed at work.
He is not...
you know, he didn't like need a breather.
He's at
the Packer
game.
He's at the Packer game.
So you can guess this is purely fun on Conrad's point and good for him, well deserved.
And are you a Packer fan?
No, I mean, I'm completely indifferent.
I'm not like, I'll go to the games and have a great time.
But I don't care outside of that.
you don't care outside, like you don't follow them.
I don't follow them if they're doing well, cool.
I'm glad, because that means everyone else is very happy, but the second they lose and you go back to work on a Monday, it's like the
worst.
Yeah, it is.
No one's happy and I can't handle that.
My wife is like that.
She could not care less about sports, but she shows up on Friday, everybody's got the jerseys on and it's all they're talking about.
These are school teachers.
And then she shows up Monday and she's like Sunday night, she's already predicting tomorrow's gonna be brutal.
Oh boy.
Or everybody being in good mood.
So anyway, how have you been?
What have I missed about your life?
Well, you haven't filled in for counting quite a while.
No, I haven't.
I don't even know the last time I was here.
Quite honestly.
I mean, I was out for a medical leave for a while.
So,
you know, doing well from that other
than
that.
I mean, we missed you at Sputnik Fest.
Listen, I was not invited to Sputnik Fest this year.
Sputnikfest, for those of you who don't know, or didn't hear my interview with Greg Vadney recently, who is the director of the Rawr West Museum in Manitowoc, they put on Sputnikfest every year.
And it happened last weekend, correct?
Last year, you invited me and Greg invited me to judge the costume contest, which was a blast.
The whole thing is a blast.
It's just a fun, nutty time.
But I will say your son,
is kind of like the Michael Jordan of Sputnikfest kid costume contest.
And he's only six years old.
He's got a lot, he's got a lot of contests ahead of him.
He took what, second place in the... I'm sorry, I'm biased, but I think it should have been first.
But yes, he took second place.
He went this year as a rover.
What is that?
Oh, like a lunar rover or
something?
Did you find a costume like that or did you make it?
We made it.
So my son...
He makes all these ideas and he asks us to make it happen and we make it happen.
That's
so cool.
So he literally rolled into the contest, perhaps crashed into the stage twice.
You know, we're just gonna.
You're responsible driving.
Just a little bit.
Maybe that's why he got second.
Right.
But no, he had like his car was like all decked out with like cardboard and paint
and
like the like heated blanket wrapping foil things.
And he had like a little box.
on his head that he could see out of with like little fake cameras on it and we gave him a little grabber so he could pick up rocks.
So
what does
that
do for him when he like he takes seconds?
Does he feel really special?
Does he get home that night and keep the costume on for a while and just live in the imaginary world a little bit or what?
He loved it.
Like he got great reception from everybody else.
And then they gave him a $50 gift card for second place.
So we went straight to the store and he, he picked out everything he wanted.
That's a week's worth of gas for the lunar rover.
Okay.
Well, I'm very excited for you guys.
That's fun.
And it's fun as a mom to see that kind of stuff.
You know, you just get to live vicariously.
And the kid has no straight stage fright right now.
So.
Oh, do you?
No,
not so much.
Yeah, you seem you're
kind of a speak your mind type.
You gotta be sometimes.
I agree.
And then there are times where you're like, this is when we need to be quiet.
It's just not worth it.
I totally agree.
Well, it's great to have you here.
Amanda and her folks, give her a shout out, send us a text, call in, say hello.
She does a great job, and I always have fun working with her when Conrad cannot be here.
So we will get you through this Packer pre-pregame show known as Nightlight.
Mm-hmm.
You think we could start something there?
I don't think so.
I really don't care.
I want people who want to talk about movies and TV.
I love sports, but it's whoever is here, it's going to be a blast.
The phone lines are open, folks.
855-7524-842-8557-5CIVIC.
Always fun when you guys chime in on whatever we're talking about, and we have a really fun show tonight.
Joining me, it is Thursday, so that means we're making the popcorn pick of the week at 6.35.
My pal, comedian, actor, and now...
Immensely successful artist, Steve Seger will be here.
I sighed because it drives me crazy.
I have all these friends who left comedy, and I have three friends who left comedy and now are successful artists.
And on paper, I shouldn't like them for that, because that's just too much talent.
Is it?
It is.
I couldn't sell a painting, but Steve's great.
He does great work and we'll talk to Steve.
He is gonna make Steve Seger and he is gonna make the popcorn pick of the week.
He's gonna give us a movie recommendation that you all can check out this weekend.
Here's the thing,
if you
could be an artist that could sell things, what do you think your medium would be?
I'll tell you what, I like...
And when it comes to art, and I don't know a ton about art, I took a couple art history classes in college, but I like moments that are captured.
So maybe that would lend itself to photography, but I love paintings too, where there's an expression or something or a moment.
And it doesn't have to necessarily be people.
And Steve's art kind of does this.
He captures like a seaside escape, you know, or the corner of a fence with someone in their pool, like.
I like anything that like lets me go and live in that space for a little bit.
You know, there are people who get hired for weddings and they live paint a moment throughout the entire tea of it.
I know.
Is that crazy?
I have, I guess he's my aunt's significant other, Elliot Fromm, who does that.
He paints with both hands.
And
he was a Chicago guy, so he would show up at all these sporting events and paint Bull's logos or Bear's logos.
They moved to Asheville, and now I guess he's painting North Carolina stuff.
I don't know, but he's immensely talented.
And Steve and I have a mutual friend, Leo Benvenuti, who is also...
doing very well in the world of art.
So anyway, we will talk to Steve about all of this at 6.35.
I'll ask Steve what he's watching, might ask him for a heckler story or a road story maybe.
And Steve also made a list, I think it's a working list where he talks about songs he never has to hear again.
And I think that is a perfect segue to our question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Here, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Questions.
All right, this is sort of along what I just said, along Steve's list of making questions, or making a list of songs that you never need to hear again.
And this is something that happened to me recently.
I heard a song in the grocery store, like I always do in Marinette, Wisconsin, and it just bumps me out.
They're like 1980s B-sides.
Like, at least play the hit.
Tonight's question.
What's the most depressing song you can hear in a grocery store?
What is the most depressing song you can hear in a grocery store?
I have two, and I would love to hear what you have to say, Amanda, but I have two.
One is, and this is one of the most depressing songs I've ever heard.
Set the Night to Music by Roberta Flack.
It's such an odd, I don't know what it is, but the song makes me...
but it just, I just kind of like, I hear that song and I'm like, I think I'm just going to turn in for the night.
Cause the rest of the night is set the night to music.
It's the most, it gets in your head.
It's one of those songs you can't let go of.
It's not like it's even a horrible song.
I love killing me softly.
It's nothing against Roberta Flack.
I hate that song.
The other one I hear, you can laugh at me.
You're like covering up.
You're like, you don't want to laugh.
I
know you do.
All right.
So the other one is, is something like Thriller.
When I hear a song that people used to go crazy for at high school dances I went to and was so full of youthful energy and you'd flip out when you heard it on the radio or at a dance or whatever and now you're just a schlub walking down the aisles buying soup or something in the grocery store.
Why
are you soup sad?
It's sad.
It's the alliteration.
It's sad soup.
I don't know what it is.
I just don't it really depresses me because it was such a
iconic thing back in the day when I was younger and now it's like I don't know I find it very depressing but Marinette in particular and if there are Marinette people listening would love to know what you think I don't know where they find these songs but I hear these songs on the radio I'm like oh I kind of remember that yeah I never needed to hear it again I don't know where they're unearthing these tunes to
set a sidetrack or a soundtrack for my shopping.
But that is tonight's question, folks.
What's the most depressing song you can hear in a grocery store?
I know that's kind of specific, but have fun with it.
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I refuse to call it the other one.
It's always Twitter.
X is lame.
Twitter was great because you could say, I'm going to tweet.
Yeah.
Well, you can't win.
I'm going to X. Yeah.
It's just stupid.
Yeah.
Whatever it is, whatever you call it, it's great to have you watching the show.
Let us know what you think.
Your most depressing song that you can possibly hear in a grocery store.
And I will read it on the radio.
Our second guess of the night, folks.
This is fun.
Al has been on the show a few times.
Al Petrelli, the guitarist and musical director for the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
They're gearing up for another tour.
We're going to tell you where you can get tickets.
We'll talk to Al a little bit about his music.
He's a really fun interview.
Steve Sieger and Al Petrelli, a great question.
What more could you need?
You don't need the Packers, folks.
Stay with me.
It's Peach Wobbly Nightlight.
I'm coming right back to read your texts and tell you that you can no longer kiss someone's grits.
We're coming right back.
It's not it.
That's yours though.
That's mine.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
I'm Peach Waba.
That is a song that Amanda never needs to hear again, or a song that she does not need to hear in a grocery store.
It makes you think of sad animals.
Yeah, I know.
Do you not remember her with all those sad, like, if we're just five cents a day, you could save this starving
dog?
What that's
from?
I'm pretty sure.
Sally Struthers?
No, Sarah McLaughlin did like
Oh, that was Sarah McLaughlin.
Yes, of course.
Well, that's a good one.
And that's sad.
That's gonna make you even sadder.
So that is our question tonight, folks.
Name a depressing song, something you don't want to hear when you're in the grocery store.
And this happened to me recently.
I posted it on Facebook and I got a lot of people.
I named the song and people, Corey Hartman wrote out the lyrics.
He knew exactly the song.
He read my mind.
It was a Steve Winwood song.
And I'm not anti-Steve Winwood.
but anyway hey folks if you missed idea fest last night here at civic media sponsored by the cap times uh in conjunction am i saying that right with uh civic media you can catch it tomorrow night last night tony evers was on the show and tomorrow night right here we will not be on live on the radio we are putting a best of green we will be on live actually in green bay
We have a best of show with our new Green Bay personalities, Dan Marcus, Eric Westfall and Laura McKenna.
So we will be on in the Green Bay market, some sort of a pre-recorded show, if you will.
And IDFS will be on the rest of the network.
The CapTimes does a great job.
And Tim Walls will be on tomorrow to talk about the state of politics in the upper Midwest.
Fun show.
We'll be here though too.
If you need some night light, we'll be splitting time like we did last night as well.
So Flo is gone.
Do you remember Flo, Amanda?
For a progressive?
No.
Oh, man.
No.
She's still very much with us.
Flo was a character on Alice, which was a show in the 70s.
And Flo was a saucy, sassy waitress who would tell customers, she'd say, kiss my grits.
And it became like a big, I think there were like t-shirts and everything.
She passed away at the age of 88.
a couple days ago, she was the last surviving member of Alice.
And I didn't watch the show a lot, but that's how popular this phrase was.
Even though I wasn't a huge Alice fan, I knew about Flow and I knew about the phrase.
So she will be, she will be, should I say she'll be missed?
I forgot she was alive.
So I don't know if she'll be missed, but she had a great career.
She's missed by someone.
She's missed by someone.
And if you're,
Watching on the stream, there's, kiss my grits right now.
Grits will never be the same.
Yeah, absolutely not.
Daniel Barry Sports Highlights, happy Thursday.
Hello everyone, happy Thursday Daniel.
I love that name.
Daniel Barry Sports Highlights, that's his handle.
Mike Desatelle says, Ralphie, how's Rocktoberfest looking for you this year?
He is talking to our first guest, Steve Segrin, who is not with us yet, but he'll be here shortly.
I should say that Steve has been,
Steve has been.
Steve and I have known each other a long time.
We did stand up together.
He was one of my idols when I started and I was never able to quite emulate Steve, but I did work with him in a movie that I've talked about from time to time on the show, The Godfather of Green Bay.
Steve was very, very funny and he's an accomplished actor, aside from The Godfather of Green Bay.
Mike also says, I don't want to hear Sentimental Journey by Doris Day in a grocery store or anywhere, but I do like Doris.
You know, I like that song.
Anything, I can take the crooners anywhere.
Give me Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Doris Day.
Give me some Patsy Klein.
I respect that.
That's a good text, Mike.
Thank you, sir, for weighing in.
Hey, we've got a giveaway we can do tonight too.
This is a really cool thing.
Ben Giles, our pal from Oshkosh.
has put together the funniest comedian, Oshkosh's funniest comedian contest.
And Josh Blue will be headlining the show.
It takes place September 13th.
That's this Saturday at 7 p.m.
I'll be hosting something over here at the Tarleton, so I can't be there.
But Ben, this is a great contest.
It's been going on for months.
The headliner on Saturday will be Josh Blue.
It starts at 7 p.m.
We are giving two tickets away.
If you text us, what should we make the keyword?
Funny?
Comedian?
Oshkosh.
Oshkosh.
Text in the word Oshkosh, and we've got two tickets for a really enjoyable night this Saturday night at the Oshkosh Arena.
That sounds so intimidating for stand-up comedy, the Oshkosh Arena.
But I think they block part of it off.
But Ben is a great guest.
He's been on the show before.
Text us, and we have two tickets for you to see the finale, months in the making, folks.
Our question of the night, as I mentioned, is what is...
Well, I forgot to go.
I had it awkwardly worded.
What's the most depressing song you can hear in a grocery store?
And we're getting some texts rolling in.
Mike already said Doris Day.
What is the name of the song you picked?
Angel by Sarah McLaughlin,
I think.
Angel, okay.
I said Seth and I to music and thriller.
Two very different songs.
Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says the banana boat song.
Deo, he's a day-day-day-oh, although Beetlejuice made it fun.
That would actually put some pepper in my step if I heard that song in a grocery store, I think.
It's one of those that kind of just forces your body to move.
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, Tyler's got his opinions.
Thank you, Tyler.
Paula, Conrad's mom loved that she's checking in, even on a night when her son is probably behaving irresponsibly.
Paula, let's be honest.
I'm kidding.
Conrad is probably tailgating right now and having a blast over at Lambeau Field.
Paula says, I agree with Amanda.
Every time that commercial about animals comes on, I mute it or change the channel.
Yeah, it's all coming back to me now.
That is very depressing.
Commercial.
In fact, you almost want to give them money just to never put the commercial on again.
Just five cents a day.
Why are you muting the mic when you laugh?
Conrad laughs.
That's why people love Conrad.
If you ever want to be like Conrad, and who doesn't?
I'm just kidding.
Amanda Nimmer, filling in for Conrad tonight, working the board.
Give her a shout out, folks.
Barb from Waukesha, I think we have our winner for the two free tickets to Oshkosh's funniest comedian.
Barb texted in Oshkosh, Barb, we will get your, we need Barb's email.
Her email and phone number.
Email and phone number please Barb and we will get those tickets you.
Anna says I wouldn't want to hear Tears in Heaven by Eric Clapton.
I never want to hear that song again.
Anna that's a great choice.
Steve Seagrant is coming up next to make the popcorn pick of the week.
It's a Thursday night edition of Nightlight and it's great to have you here folks.
Amanda Nimmer's here.
What could be better?
Coming right back.
Welcome
back.
This is Nightlight with Peachwaba.
I am Peachwaba.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is exciting one of my favorite times of the week it is time for the popcorn pick of the week
It's time for the night It's time for the night like popcorn pick of the week where we recommend a movie that you'll either enjoy or won't Here's your host peach wabba.
That's on
me.
I should have I should have gone over that with you Amanda drove all the way
to be
here just so we can stay here tonight.
Before anyone's like, Amanda can't run the board.
No, I can't.
They changed everything.
It's a new board.
It's a different board from the last time I was here.
It's not
even spelled right.
It's spelled B-O-R-E-D now.
That's how different it is.
And
she's trying to adjust.
Folks, this is exciting.
It is the popcorn pick of the week.
And I am excited to welcome back one of my friends.
He's one of the funniest people I've ever known or worked with.
He was a great comedian, is a fine actor.
And now has added painting to his resume.
The multi-talented Mr. Steve Segrin is here to make the popcorn pick.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, what's going on?
Nothing.
It's good to see you.
Thanks for doing this, Steve.
What else do I got to do?
I got nothing to do.
That's the spirit.
That's the attitude I love for my guests.
I had nothing better to do.
Steve, we've got a few things to talk about, but let's jump right in and do this popcorn thing.
Let's talk some movies.
Okay.
We've talked movies over the years, and I love talking movies with you because on car rides or whatever it was to stand up gigs, I remember we had a laugh once over the movie True Believer, and the store was
called
Arts Supplies, and they were looking for art supply.
Yeah.
For whatever reason, that floored you and you kept talking about it and you won me over and I couldn't stop laughing.
But we share a love of a lot of the same films.
But how do you, how do you typically watch movies, Steve?
Are you a theater guy?
Do you like to watch them at home?
Usually I watch them at home, but lately I go back to the theater.
It's so hot out here in LA that you got to get some air conditioning, you know, so right absolutely cool dark place Yeah,
that's right.
So it but air conditioning aside a better climate aside Do you prefer to watch him at home because you're alone or are you adverse to watching with a crowd?
No, it's
If a movie I want to see is on TV, I'll watch it on TV.
If this movie I really want to see right away, I'll go to the theater and see it.
In some movies you want to see it a big screen, but
you
know, my rule of thumb now is I will not watch anything in the Marvel Universe.
I
won't watch any DC, no comic book movies or superhero movies anymore.
Or sequels or remakes, like Freaky or Friday.
How many have they done?
Like 20?
I know.
It's like, I want to see a movie that's got an original idea.
Yes.
You know, something original and, you know, basically the superhero stuff is the same movie over and over again.
It's just the costume changes.
That's it.
It's
like,
yeah, it's like with wisecracks and they think they're so funny.
And yeah, I'm with you.
But everything you just said, I don't watch superhero movies, sequels, remakes.
That's like you have two movies this year.
We're your options.
Exactly.
That's why I don't go to the theater that much
anymore.
I've been watching all their films.
But, you know, I've seen two movies in the theater in the last couple of weeks.
I do want to say, too, you are every filmmaker's dream.
Like, yeah, I'll go to the movies if the air conditioning's working.
I just...
What do
you have like
what's fun?
No, no,
no, no, please go
I was gonna say like once upon a time in Hollywood I had to see that in a theater had to see that on a big screen So I want to see that one and then I saw a Nora on the big screen.
I want to see that right away and Then I want to see weapons, baby That movie is awesome big fan.
Okay, that's my popcorn pick of the week if you haven't seen weapons go to the theater and see it.
Oh, I but
We kind of usually like to build up to that a little bit, but that's OK.
I'll come up with another pick.
No, I never really sent you a format for how we did, but that's totally fine.
And that is a great pick, Steve.
Did you see Barbarian, which was Zach Kragger's first?
Yes.
Yes.
I like that.
I didn't like the ending too much, but all the way through up to the ending, I thought it was great.
Yeah.
weapons was so creepy.
It was so good.
Do you have a favorite type or genre of film you typically like to see, Steve?
No, I like sci-fi, but not exclusively.
In fact, I made a list of movies that I liked before I came on.
Oh, sweet.
And they're all over the place.
They're all over the place.
It's just like horror.
There's some sci-fi.
There's
a couple action things.
And some indie films that I like a lot.
Like I saw East of Wall, which I really liked, but it might be kind of an acquired taste.
It's about horse trainers in North Dakota.
And the actors are the actual people.
It's got a kind of raw feel to it, but it's beautifully shot.
And if you like horses, you definitely got to see the movie.
Some people won't like it, but I did.
I liked it a lot, especially the non-actors acting.
It's a really good, very well done.
You know, it's funny you say that because a movie I saw, I was kind of late to the party on the director for Enora.
I can't think of his name right now, Sean.
No, who is that?
Sean Baker.
Sean Baker, yeah.
And I saw The Florida Project probably a year ago and-
Awesome movie, loved
it.
Steve, one of my top 10, the ending of that movie just broke me.
It was
not what
I was expecting.
And it was just, but I love that he used real people and he got these kids to act like children that don't even look like they're acting.
It was a masterpiece.
It's great.
Yeah, they
were
acting like kids.
And the
only thing is, you know, William Defoe is kind of, you know, he shows up.
It's kind of takes you out of it a little bit.
Yeah.
But you get used to him in there.
But still.
What a great movie.
The ending, like you said, it was just perfect.
Yeah.
Perfect.
And I know it's kind of interesting because you can't film in Disney World.
They won't let you if you're going to shoot a movie, right?
So when the girls, hopefully I'm not giving away the ending.
Who cares?
The girls run off.
When the girls run off into Disney World, if you notice how that's shot, it looks like I think they're shooting it on a phone.
and
just following
them as they run through it.
So it's really cool, and it looks really cool.
And the ending, when you think about it, it's like, how else would that end?
There's no other way it could have ended, really.
It's beautiful.
It is.
And I kept thinking there's going to be, because the mom was such a mess, I thought,
This is going to end tragically and it's going to be predictable and it wasn't.
It was like he took it in a whole different direction.
I just absolutely love that.
And it's funny what you say about Willem Dafoe, who I really like and I loved him in that role, but you're right.
If he wasn't in the film, it might have been even better, even though he was really
good
and I'm a fan, if that
makes
any sense.
Yeah.
And the neat thing is that it's kind of shot through the kid's eyes.
I mean, everything.
Nothing seems to happen outside of that behind us.
You know, what am I trying to say?
You know, everything happens while the kids are there.
They see everything is happening.
It's not like something is happening that they don't see.
It's there.
It's their world.
You know, and they got, you know, I mean, that's, that's why the ending works so well.
I think, you know, they live right next to Disney world and they can never go.
Right.
And
finally, they're like,
screw it.
Let's
go.
We're
going to
Disney.
We're going to make our life fun for a few minutes.
Just
for a few minutes.
Yeah, it's great.
And then
the
shot of them running off to the Magic Kingdom is beautiful.
I love it.
I want to see it again now.
Totally with you.
We've got a text there.
Joseph says, South Dakota native here, east of wall is set near wall of wall drug fame, South Dakota.
I remember going there as a kid and that's where all the bumper stickers, I've been to wall drug.
And Joseph says also agreed, it's a great movie.
Okay,
thank you, Joseph.
Oh, it's terrific, terrific movie.
Yeah.
It is beautiful.
I like movies that, you know, take me someplace where I've never been or in a world that I don't know anything about.
And I don't know anything about training horses or anything like that.
And that's why the movie seems so interesting to me.
Totally agree.
And especially one, I think you and I both have talked about films like Manhunter, Earth, Living Dying LA.
I didn't know that was the first movie I've ever seen William Peterson in or John Pankow, the other great Chicago stage actor.
And I just felt like those are the movies I can lose myself in, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, well, you know what William Peterson was also been thief.
He had a small part in thief.
Yeah,
he threw him
out of the bar Hey, so it's
Yeah, so it's what's his name from my NYPD blue effort Dennis France.
He's Dennis France.
That's right
Our mutual friend Mike Schmidt said William Peterson says the word pal better than anybody in anybody in cinema history Such a Mike observation.
I love that so much My guest is Steve Segeran.
He is a comedian actor and artist We have some of Steve's paintings.
We'll put up here in the stream shortly We're doing the popcorn pick of the week with Steve and before I ask you about snacks Steve.
I got to ask you
I said once upon a time in Hollywood was a movie you wanted to see in the theater.
To me, when I saw that, I knew nothing about it.
And I left the theater going, I think I really liked that.
I dragged my son Joe the next day, we went to see it.
And it's my favorite Tarantino movie.
I just think it's so great.
Yeah, mine too.
Mine too.
It's the best thing he did since Pulp Fiction, I think.
But other people would argue that.
Sure.
Yeah, when I went to see it and it ended,
I wanted, I could have watched another hour.
Me too.
They couldn't keep going.
And the ending was so weird too, Pete, because it put me in this weird emotional place like, you know, oh wow, they stopped Charles Manson.
Yeah.
That's great.
You know, Sharon Tate is still alive.
That's wonderful.
But then it's sadness too, because it's not true.
But you want it to be you know, yeah, that's the title
want it's a fairy tale and it's
a fairy tale Yeah, and it was I like I liked it.
He did that like he's like I screw the facts Yeah, do it what I want to do what I would like to have seen happen I like that it's it takes some courage and I thought that was pretty cool.
He did it.
He kind of did that in the glorious bastard Yeah, exactly.
Yeah,
he I'm with you though.
I could have kept watching I could have like
What do Leonardo DiCaprio and Sharon Tay do now?
I need to see that, you know?
Like, or when they went to the ranch too to see Bruce Dern, I was so mad at myself.
I'm like, because I had heard of that place.
I was in LA for 14 years.
I'm like, how did I never go check this
out?
You
know what I mean?
Like,
it was that great of a scene.
It was so
cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, it was a Western.
Basically, it was a Western.
Yeah.
It was an old Western thing and he's walking down the, you know, the, this main street, almost like a showdown.
It's really good.
It was, and they kept cutting back to Leo Dunn or the Capio, filming a Western.
It was terrific.
Right.
Which, those scenes I love too.
He was great too.
Okay.
So Steve, what is your favorite movie snack, whether you're in the theater or at home?
I like popcorn.
Popcorn.
I'm
boring.
Okay.
No, that's good.
Some chocolate.
Can you still?
I learned.
I go ahead.
No, I was going to ask if you like goobers.
They're hard to find still, but I had them a few weeks ago in a movie and I loved it, despite the horrible name.
I was never a goober fan, really.
But I wouldn't turn down a goober.
If a free goober is still, I mean, if it's free, it's me.
If you come at me with a goober, I won't say no.
I can pretty much assure you right now, I will never come at you with a goober steve just out of respect for our friendship.
I'd buy you some snow caps though or something.
Snow caps, I like those.
Yeah,
snow caps are great.
Like you said, anything chocolate I go for.
What about at, you know, you've been known to knock back a few scotches.
You used to go by, you had a moniker called Copscotch, one of the funniest things
in
stand-up I've ever seen.
All right, we're going to do a quick break.
Then we'll come back and we'll get Steve's other Popcorn Pick of the Week and we'll refresh you on what his first one was because it was so great.
And I'm going to tell you about Copscotch and Steve, what is his beverage of choice now when he watches a movie?
Hey, this is Nightlight with Pete Schwab.
It's the Popcorn Pick of the Week coming up next on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Network.
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Chihuahua.
This is Nightlight.
Great to have you with me on this popcorn pick Thursday night.
Coming up at 735, our pal Al Patrelli from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra will be here to talk about some upcoming shows here in Wisconsin.
Al's always fun to talk to.
He fits he fits right he's from Jersey Amanda.
I don't know if you knew that.
I did not yeah, but he's kind of yeah But right now we are talking to my pal Steve Siegren Who joins us over the stream from beautiful are you in Venice Steve or Santa Monica?
In Marina del Rey now
Marina del Rey.
Okay, you got the south of Venice
got the rent control out there
Yeah, I guess.
Still high.
Still high.
No kidding.
It's great to have
you
here, Steve.
We talked about Steve's popcorn pick.
He gave us a teaser earlier.
We're going to delve into that again and find out.
He said he had another one he could provide us with too.
So two for the price of one tonight.
I
was asking
Steve before the break.
You used to do this character called Cop Scotch.
It was one of the most quotable things in comedy for people in our group.
Do you still drink Scotch?
No, I don't drink anymore, really.
I kind of outgrew it.
Just lost my taste for it.
Oh, wow.
I mean, I haven't had a drink once in a while.
Like, you know, like I'm going out to dinner with a bunch of guys in a couple of weeks and I'll probably have some wine.
Maybe I'll have a Scotch, but I just, you know.
I don't drink that much anymore.
Are you doing that steak thing again?
You guys go to that steakhouse in Koreatown?
Yeah.
I see those
pictures and I just get a pain in my stomach.
I mean,
I was never invited, but
I would have loved to have
attended.
Well, if you were here, you would definitely be
invited.
So I'll tell you, I haven't had a drink in almost three years either, and it's not like a court order or anything.
I just decided to kind of take a break and see what happens.
I love it.
I don't know.
Do you feel great?
Yeah, I actually feel a lot better.
You know, I wake up in the morning feeling pretty good.
Yeah.
And you know, the thing is, I think about things I did when I was drinking.
I'm like, oh my God, what was I thinking?
I can't believe I did that.
Thank God there wasn't social media back then.
Yeah.
But it's not like there was ever a problem, you know what I mean?
I wasn't getting DUIs or, you know, I can't say I was an alcoholic and I had to go to AA or anything like that.
And I'm lucky because, you know, it was easy for me to quit.
It was during COVID, actually.
It's just, you know, I wasn't going out and I just kind of stopped doing it.
I didn't like it anymore, so I just stopped.
Yeah,
I got really into whiskey.
my last few years in LA and I was making money and I was buying great stuff.
And then I moved back here and I had to trim something from the budget.
And I'm like, all right, well, you know, Kessler's isn't so bad, you know?
But like, it's, it kind of like, like with me, it was the same thing.
Like I loved having a cocktail at night, but I never, I was just like, all right, it does get to be expensive though too, if you drink the good stuff.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah.
And also, since I'm not doing stand-up anymore, I got to pay for drinks.
Did I ever tell you the story about when I worked at the, I think it was the funny bone in Green Bay?
No, it's just filling in just filling in for one night.
Okay, somebody canceled I went up to fill in I'd never worked there before and so you usually give me like, you know three drinks four drinks free Yeah, and so I asked for a scotch and and the guys what do you want?
I went just whatever the well is he goes We got Johnny Walker black, which was a high-class.
Yeah at the time And I'm like well, that's okay.
Sure.
I'll have one and I was drinking Johnny Walker black I had like three or four of them the next day I'm gone and they instituted the Steve Siegren rule
No top self scotch for any comic
Yeah, I
was just there for one night.
I don't blame
you for that either.
That's it's late.
It's bush league Yeah, where you working the Green
Bay
funny bomb, thanks for nothing see grin,
but I think
It was also partially due to the fact that Lewis Black was there the week before.
He was a big Scotch guy, too.
Oh, yeah.
So us two, between the two of us, we
probably drank
a lot of
it.
But they didn't have the guts to go after Lewis Black.
No.
They couldn't
have named it after him, but they didn't have to meet.
But you're immortal now, so that's pretty cool.
I
got a funny story out of it.
Yeah,
exactly.
All right.
I think it's time we get Steve's actual.
Do you have a drummer already, Amanda?
It's not necessary if Conrad did not leave it.
Oh, you got it.
All right.
Fantastic.
Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Sigurd is here.
He is about to make the popcorn pick of the week.
Amanda, if you please.
Steve Sigurd, what is your popcorn pick of
the week?
Okay, this is a movie that came out, I think two years ago, maybe and it's streaming.
It's on Hulu.
It's called Presence.
It's directed by Steven Soderbergh.
It's a ghost story and the cool twist in this one is the ghost is the camera.
It's all shot through the ghost point of view.
It's pretty
cool.
I love stuff like that when a director
does
something.
I
have not seen that.
The funny thing is, I almost wish I didn't say that because it took me about 20 minutes to figure it out.
I'm like, oh, I'm the ghost.
But it's really good.
It's Satterberg.
And it's cool.
It's a cool little movie called Presence.
Hey, you got the little thing.
All
right.
And it's got the poster up there, wasting no time.
If you're watching on the stream, you can see the poster.
That's creepy for some reason.
And I don't know why.
Streaming on Hulu.
So it's good.
Good popcorn movie.
That's a great popcorn movie.
Thank you, Steven.
What is the one you said before, too?
You said that.
Oh,
weapons?
Oh, weapons.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've been talking about that movie a lot, folks.
If you haven't seen weapons.
Steve, that is his co-pick of the week.
I thought it was great too.
I actually did like Barbarian a little bit better, Steve, I will say, but-
Did
you really?
Kinda, yeah.
I love it.
All of a sudden, Justin Long, they go to LA and I'm like, what the hell is this?
I thought they made
an editing
error or something, but
then he shows
up and yeah, I thought that was really cool.
The ending of Weapons just knocked me out.
It was great.
I want to see it again.
I saw it twice.
But the less you know about the movie,
Yes.
The better it is.
Agreed.
All right, Steve,
can you stick around for a few minutes after the news?
What?
Yes.
All right.
I'm going to show you some
of Steve's artwork when we come back, and we're going to talk about movies and a TV show that we both enjoyed.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight.
We're coming back for act two after this.
Don't go anywhere, folks.
We're having fun on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Denmark to Depeer.
This is 97.9 WGBW.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Peach Wabba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
A guy who doesn't have 20-20 vision, even in hindsight, Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back.
Tonight, folks, it's great to have you with me on this Thursday night.
And we're having, this is a good show.
I mean, do you have fun?
I kind of feel like it's up
to me
to be your, you know, to make sure you're entertained.
I mean, it's kind of what you're here for,
though.
To entertain you?
I
mean, am I not part of the audience?
You are
part of the show.
That is the voice of Amanda Nimmer.
She's filling in for the K-Man tonight.
Conrad is at the Packer game, I assume.
So he says, I don't know what Conrad's up to, but he's not here tonight.
That's all I know.
Our question of the night, folks, is what is the most depressing song you can hear in a grocery store?
And I'm gonna ask my guest, Steve Sieger, and we'll get back to it just a minute.
If he has a new, a few new entries into his list of songs he never needs to hear before, because that is a really fun.
A little Facebook thing, Steve is going.
So let us know your answer to the question, 855-752-4842.
You can drop us a comment on the app.
Or if you're watching the radio on the stream on YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter X, you can drop us a stream comment.
Always fun to get responses from listeners.
It's more fun when you guys participate.
So we have a... This was kind of interesting.
We got a text.
Steve and I were just talking about Steve's popcorn pick of the week, by the way.
Steve Seger and my guest, comedian, actor, artist.
We'll see some of his work very, very shortly here on the stream, but his pick, he had, he gave us two picks actually.
Weapons, which is in theaters, and you can stream it now, I think as of like two days ago.
And the film Presence, which is from Steven Soderbergh, a Steven Soderbergh movie, which is available on Hulu.
Scary movie where the ghost is, we're doing a lot of spoilers tonight, Steve.
The ghost
is
the camera.
We kind of spoiled the ending to the Florida project and also weapons.
You don't have to see any of these films, folks.
We've already explained.
No, they're all great.
And there were great picks too.
Anna, listening in the 608, she's a Madison gal.
We know that.
She says, hi, Pete.
You and your guests were talking about Once Upon a Time in America.
I heard that Quentin Tarantino is making a new movie with Brad Pitt.
And the character he played in that movie, did you know that Mike...
Moe, who played Bruce Lee in the movie Liz in Wanaki, Wisconsin.
I did not know that right outside of Madison.
That's
David Fincher directing it.
Tarantino wrote the script, but he's not directing.
Correct.
You think it's just called Cliff Booth or something?
Yeah, I am curious to see what they do with that.
I'm sure it'll be good.
Tarantino, he didn't direct True Romance, he just wrote it and Tony Scott directed it,
but that's one
of my favorite.
you know, if you could say that's a Tarantino movie too, that's a great flick.
Yeah, thank
you, Anna.
Thank you for the text.
All right, so my guest is Steve Segrin.
He is a stand-up comic.
Do you still go up anywhere, Steve?
Do you ever go up?
Are you totally done?
No, I have a last show I did was at the 80s in St.
Charles, 2010.
Wow,
okay.
Do you miss it?
Yeah, it's been a while.
No.
No, okay.
No.
Easy answer, no.
Yeah.
I have to say.
Once in a while, I come up with a joke
like,
oh, I wonder if they will work on stage, but I'm not going to go
back.
Just post it to Facebook and be done with it.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
Right, yeah.
That's what I do too.
Steve and I were working together in Toledo.
I don't even remember the year, sometime in the 90s.
And Steve dared me.
When I was on stage, you were going to count how many times I said, my idea of a good time?
I don't think so.
I probably did it like two or three times and then bailed.
But I think my favorite, I was only a comic for like seven years, but my favorite things were working the road with other comics.
And I remember I was doing this character, I think I was in Grand Forks.
And every time this guy said something, I would act like I had no idea.
Like he would say like, well, it's like 9-11 when those buildings flew into the plane and I'd go, what?
And he, like the first time he looked at me and then it's like, well, the JFK assassination, what?
It's more fun when people- What are you talking about?
It's more fun when people don't know what you're doing.
And he
just looked at me, finally goes,
what's your deal?
Any other comics laughing at that's all they needed, you know?
But, you know, I did that on our chat recently.
You and I are both Bears fans and we have a group of comics that are in that chat.
And I said, go after this guy, but go volume.
Offer him 10 seventh round picks.
And I thought that was brilliant.
I got nothing, Steve.
I got nothing.
I laughed.
I just
didn't type.
I just didn't type, aha.
You got to type LOL or it doesn't count,
man.
I didn't laugh with my fingers,
Pete.
Fair enough.
Steve Segerin is an artist now, folks.
He's had great TV credits.
He's had a nice career as an actor.
He's still an actor, but he's also an accomplished artist who is starting to sell, well, not starting to sell.
You've been selling stuff for a while now, right, Steve?
Yes, I have.
Jimmy Dore just bought something from me.
Really?
Good old Jimmy.
Good
old Jimmy Dorr who is, uh, who is still working the road.
I see two in between his eight million YouTube, whatever he's got going on over there.
Uh, Hey, Amanda, we have some of Steve works.
Can we post one of Steve's paintings in the stream?
Absolutely.
If
you're watching on the stream here.
Okay.
This is
what I'm talking about.
I love those like kind of POV paintings.
You do Steve.
How do you know?
Like, where is that?
That's my apartment.
It's looking out right living room window one afternoon or one morning, I think.
All right.
So I know this is radio.
I'll just describe it a little bit, but we do have people watching on the stream that can see it.
And if you're not on the stream, it's just curtains open and Steve's view.
And I love that stuff because it just takes you there, right?
It's like a POV.
That's most of what you do, Steve.
Is there a style that you have that has a name that we might
recognize?
I can't I don't I'm sure there's a there's a name for it, but I guess representation.
I'll figure it if maybe okay I Can't I don't know I'm still trying to figure that stuff out cop scotch Ian Yeah, yeah No, but you know this I sold this painting and I haven't seen it in a while and I'm looking at it now.
I'm like, yeah, it's not bad.
Yeah,
that's great
Do we have another one?
Yeah, we got two more.
Yeah, let's see another one of Steve's paintings.
And if
you know the name of these, Steve, let us know.
I think that's just called Shoreline.
They're all from photographs.
They're all from pictures I take.
And I just crop them down to what I like.
And this one's sold too, yeah.
But this is from a beach up a PCH called Point Magoo.
Oh, yeah,
sure.
Yeah.
Nice.
All right, let's take a look at another one of Steve's paint.
Oh, I've seen this one on your website.
I love that one.
Yeah.
I sold that one too.
He's
got nothing left, folks.
I don't know.
I got nothing left.
I guess it
was new.
Send him a picture and he'll
paint it.
This is from a swimming pool in Montecito up by Santa Barbara.
Okay.
Nancy and I were up there for our anniversary, but
I was standing on the balcony of our hotel and just took a picture straight down and shadowed the palm tree on there.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Very.
If I do say
so.
Yeah, I gotta say what really sticks out to me about your art is the unexpected detail because like most people would be like, oh, the pool's the focus.
But in my opinion, that shadow of the palm tree is like what sucks you right into it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like that.
I remember when I was working on this.
The shadow was actually coming from the bottom and it didn't work.
So I kind of moved it and
you know to
come from the top but Without the shadow really there's nothing.
It's not as interesting.
You're right
now It does give you that definitely that like so Cal vibe.
I guess.
How do you how long does something like that take Steve?
It depends how lazy I am Usually it'll take me a couple days, but sometimes I work the longest I work on something was like
maybe a month, but I put it away for a while because I was getting sick of it.
I always get to a point around the middle of the painting where I'm like, what the hell am I doing?
I just kind of lose touch with it and I'm like, this is awful.
Why am I doing this?
And I kind of have to step back for a little while and then go back in.
But there was one I was working on that I just had to put away and not look at for about a week or two.
I went back to it and I was able to finish it.
Once I went back to it, I'm like, oh, this one wasn't that bad.
This is not as bad as I thought it was.
Is it like writer's block?
Is there painter's block where you're like, man, I don't know where I'm going with this, but
yeah.
Yes, there is.
Yes, sir.
I'm always worried about repeating myself and I find that I'll be working on something and like, I've done this.
What am I doing?
You know what, the thing is just,
Just keep going, you know, just got to work through it.
That's all,
you know, I've been drawing a lot that helps too.
So, you know.
Okay, my guest is Steve Segrin.
He is an actor, artist now in a former comedian.
His paintings can be seen.
Steve, what's your website if people want to check things out?
Paintingsbystevessegrin.com.
It's Steve is just a S-T-E-V-E.
Segrin is S-E-A-G-R-E-N.
Very simple.
Paintings by steveseedground.com.
Awesome stuff.
We got a couple of comments here.
Joseph says, Steve's work is nice.
Very hopper-esque.
Oh, that's kind of Edward Hopper.
That's a good compliment, right?
I've got, yeah, I get that a lot.
Yeah, that and Hockney too.
Yeah, see somebody said Hockney.
Oh, very cool.
And then,
I like both those painters.
Mike Desatel, who shared the screen with us, Steve, and the Godfather of Green Bay says, is there a movie?
Yeah.
I'm sorry, I got that.
I got that wrong.
Steve, do you get your inspiration from things you've actually seen?
Photos are from your imagination.
You kind of answered this, but what's been the most?
Oh,
yeah.
It's always from photographs.
OK.
And how do you know when you want to paint something?
Do you know it right away?
Well, you know what I do is I just take a picture of something.
And I go back and look at it, and then I start cropping it and looking for something inside that picture that looks interesting.
Kind
of close up, you know?
Like the water, the seagull on the beach, that picture itself is really a wide angle of, and there's people over in the corner, there's somebody swimming like right by the seagull and everything, but I cropped that all out.
Okay,
and sometimes I'll photoshop it out until I get what I want, you know, but mainly what I'm looking for is light sunlight That's what I that's what they'll comment even all of them.
It's all about sunlight very cool Hey, can we keep you for a couple more minutes?
I gotta ask you about some bad songs
Okay.
All right.
Amanda, we're going to have to go to Petty Cash.
We're going to have to find a signing bonus for Steve here to keep him around a little bit.
All right, Steve Segrin is here, folks.
So we are talking about his paintings, which are outstanding.
Check them out at paintingsbystevessegrin.com.
Did I get that right?
That's right.
Paintings by stevesegrant.com.
Great stuff.
When we come back, we're going to find out if there are any new songs on Steve's list that he never needs to hear again.
And it coincides with our question
of the
night, folks.
It's Pete Schwab at Nightlight.
We're coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Are you
trying to chase people away?
Maybe.
That song is just... Like, whose choice was that?
That is Anna
from
Madison's who said, I wouldn't want to hear tears in heaven.
In a grocery
store.
Welcome back tonight late folks.
I am peach wobble.
We've got a couple more minutes here with our get current guest Steve Siegren Al Petrelli from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra is coming up after the news at the bottom of the hour Steve and I covered the popcorn pick of the week His choice was weapons and he gave us a bonus in the the the other movie is Presence by Steven Soderbergh, which you could check out on Hulu if you're looking for something To watch all right as I mentioned before the break
Steve had, you had this, was it only a Facebook thing with your songs you never need to hear again?
Is that?
Yeah, I was just doing that Facebook and then I think we talked about it on this show one time.
Yeah,
but I wish I wish you would have
Tell me about that because I the list is somewhere on my computer.
I was trying to find it during the break and I don't know where I put it so I'm not sure I could remember a couple of the songs around there, but not the whole list
is Jeremiah was a bullfrog on there joy to the world.
Yes.
That's
on there.
Yes.
Jeremiah was a bullfrog was on there and that's two nights of white satin.
Yeah, lose that's on there
I'll
tell you I'll tell you one Steve.
I love like
Huey Lewis in the news, I like the song, The Power of Love.
If this is it, I used to like that song.
I don't ever need to hear that again, though.
Oh,
God,
yes.
If this is it.
Well, the top of the list was in the air tonight, the Phil Collins song.
Oh, that's a bad one, too.
But then I turned on Monday Night Football and they do it.
They did it on Monday night with Snoop Dogg and some country guy.
So they're trying to mix genres and it made it even worse.
How can we make this song worse?
Add some country to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Snoop Dogg.
Yeah.
Hey, buddy, this was really fun.
Thank you so much as always for your time.
And we'll go into songs more next time, because I think that list is so funny.
I'll
try and find it.
I'll try and dig it up.
Yeah, and maybe we'll find out what a good road story or something to.
I'm sure Steve's
got some of those, but I really appreciate it.
Oh, by the way.
Yeah.
Just just before I go depressing song to hear yeah to one woman to be honey by Bobby Goldsboro Remember that song.
No, I don't know if I know
the guy's wife see the tree how big it's grown, but it wasn't very long It wasn't big and his wife planted a tree and then she dies That's that one and then Shannon about the dog that drowns.
Oh my god
had we grow Shannon remember that song.
I don't remember either
like that old
Oh my god, I can't believe it.
It's nice to have someone older than me on the show every once in a while, Steve.
I feel special.
You might as well throw in Last Kiss by Pearl Jam here with the theme you're going with.
Was Last Kiss a bad song?
It's about how he was driving in a car and he
crashed it and killed
his girlfriend.
That's that's an old one that was written by Wayne Cochran.
That was in the 60s.
Oh really did he remake it?
Yeah remake it.
Oh my gosh.
I didn't know that
remember this song and bill was this woman singing about bill.
Oh
God, what was that?
All right.
Yeah
We'll be we'll be more prepared for this next time.
There's some really bad songs out there, and they're fun to talk about Steve have a great night, buddy Thanks so much, and I will see you on Facebook my friend
Okay, we'll talk to you later.
Okay.
That's
Steve Siegern,
ladies and gentlemen.
You got it.
Check out paintingsbystevesiegern.com.
He's got great stuff there.
As I mentioned before, I'm just sick over people who are great at more than one artistic medium.
It's very, it's very, it's, you know, what am I going to do?
There's always one.
Listen, I can do nails and I do a pretty damn good job, but I don't know if I would.
Do you do your wife's nails?
No, I mean, I just I cut my fingernails pretty good at you know when you say
do nails like I'm like, oh, okay
That's where I was but I pivoted Amanda.
All right, we've got some social media texts here I've got to get to our Facebook responses to our question of the night, which is what's the most depressing song you can hear in a grocery store Mike best Mike Desdels says we have no bananas You know I get that but
That's the kind of song I would kill to hear in a grocery store just because it's not a bad B side from the 80s.
But I get it.
Yeah, that's that's one.
That's one I would not expect to hear in a grocery store either, Mike.
Corey Hartman, our civic media pal here, Corey Hartman says, same old Langzine.
You know why he says that, Amanda?
I do not.
The opening.
This is a great song, first of all.
Old Langzine met my old lover in a grocery store.
You should find that we should we could do a little
I'll go out with it
Dan Fogelberg.
It's great.
It's a great song But I can understand where Corey's coming from you don't want to hear that a grocery store while you're shopping another civic media pal Eric Bernstein says whiskey lullaby.
I don't know that song.
Oh
Do you
yeah a little bit
is it bad or
it's just kind of one of those that tugs at your heart Makes you feel when you don't want to
you don't need a case of the feels when you're
perusing aisle seven.
Especially the ice cream aisle.
Our pal Conrad Krieger, we know him.
He says, apologize by one republic.
I don't think I know that one either.
I know one republic though.
Danny Wills, our pal Daniel Wheeler, who was on the show recently says, send in the clowns sung by Judy Collins, brutally depressing.
I'd leave the table of my own open heart surgery if that song started playing in the OR.
Boy, if that song started playing in the OR, I would think you have big problems, Daniel.
And I hope you don't need open-heart surgery.
Our pal Rich Talarico, writer of one of my favorite Key and Pills sketches ever says, think music from Jeopardy.
Again, that might be kind of fun, because it's just not something I'd be expecting in a grocery store.
I mean, I'd be wondering what we're waiting for if it suddenly came on.
Like, what's happening?
You have to pay for your groceries in a question.
Somehow, I don't even know how that would work.
Sarah Jean says all by myself by Celine Dion as I put the pizza for one in my basket.
That's great.
All by myself.
Love it, Sarah Jean.
Thank you.
And then I, of course, said Roberto Flagstatt, The Night to Music, or Thriller.
So I think to offset the going to break early last segment, I should go right up until the...
if that's what you must
do.
So it averages out by the end of the show.
You do have like 30
seconds.
I know.
We've got Al Patrelli from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra coming up next, folks.
He's going to tell you where you can see this really fun spectacle of a band here in Wisconsin.
And we'll talk to him about guitar playing.
And oh, there you go.
Al Patrelli would not play this.
Is that all by me?
No, what is that?
Oh, that's all the enzyme.
Yeah.
All right, we're coming back.
Peach wava, nightlight.
I just introduced you to a
song you're
going to love.
I don't listen to music to be sad, but that's a great song.
If you ever think about unrequited love or an ex.
I guess.
And
Corey Hartman says he doesn't want to hear that when he's shopping.
I don't think he's shopping right now.
He might be listening to
the
game.
That takes some old things.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome back tonight.
One of our favorite rock and rollers.
He is also the guitarist and one of the musical directors of the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, also known as TSO.
And he drops by tonight to discuss some really cool upcoming shows.
Mr. Al Petrelty.
Hey, buddy.
How are you my friend good to hear your voice
good to hear from you, too.
How what's catch us up Al?
It's been like almost a year How
are you and it went by fast, isn't it?
Yeah,
I
did It was like five minutes ago.
We talked night.
Well, it's good.
I'm sitting on the couch I'm watching you know the Packers game football and I'm talking to you in Milwaukee What could be what's what's wrong?
It's all
good.
You're
Madison.
Well, we're actually in Green Bay We're like I don't know what I mean the two miles from Lambo field or whatever
give or
take
Parking's a real pain right now, Al, so.
Well, good luck tonight, anyway.
Yeah, thank you, buddy.
I hope you have a great night watching the game.
All right, we'll talk to you soon.
Now, Al
Petrolius here,
joining us over the phone here.
The Trans-Siberian Orchestra, their winter tour is coming up, and you've got this year's show is called The Ghosts of Eve, the best of TSO, and more.
Tell us about this show, Al.
Well, the show is based on the story written by Paul O'Neill and you and I have spoken about him in the past So the long and the short of it is that in 96 we recorded the first record Christmas even other stories in 97 We recorded the album the Christmas attic and both of them were multi-platin really really quick Still did no shows I think I joked with you once before I felt like I was in the steely day on a Christmas We were just recording records and selling a lot of them and never ever playing live once so
The next year, he said, listen, I'm taking songs from both of those records.
I'm going to combine them into this new story.
I've written called The Ghost of Christmas Eve.
All right.
And we filmed the movie in 98.
And within a couple of years, I found out that between the Hallmark Channel and PBS and a few other stations, that became like the number one holiday film for people.
It became like part of their tradition, like when I was a kid, watching Charlie Brown or, um,
It's a wonderful life, miracle and 30th anniversary, whatever.
And everybody just fell in love with this.
So we decided we had a great, great, great year last year.
But you know me, you know, come the second week of January, I want to scratch my head and say, well, how can we make it better or bigger or just cooler?
And, you know, I've mentioned to you in past conversations that I'm going to make it bigger.
And I don't think I've ever disappointed anybody in your town.
No.
No,
you know,
that was one of my questions for you.
Actually is how do you do that?
Like a Trans-Siberian orchestra is such a spectacle and it's such a great show.
You got lights, you've got pyrotechnics.
How do you do that?
How do you up the ante?
You disassemble it in the middle of January, just like a Super Bowl team.
You know, you win the ring, you got the trophy, you nailed it.
No guarantee you're going to win that game again the following year.
So you take the whole thing apart and put it back together and hopefully make it better and stronger in our case.
across the board.
I want a better show for the people in your community who come back year after year after year.
And I call them my repeat offenders.
They deserve a better show each year.
You know, and if ever I heard anybody say, yeah, it was okay.
It was better last year than it's time for me to retire.
So the ghost of Christmas Eve is something that real, a lot of people really, you know, they hold it as their own.
It's become a tradition.
So I want to bring that out live this year, louder, bigger, more pyro, more lasers, everything.
And then the front and back of the show, we'd have a lot of surprises, a lot of mature.
We've never played before.
I want to do something different as often as I can.
The Trans-Siberian Orchestra will play two shows in Wisconsin, Thursday, November 13th, and at the Res Center in Green Bay, right down the street here.
And then Saturday, December 27th at the Pfizer Forum in Milwaukee, will be the same show.
And it's going to be, you guys are doing something different this year, Al.
I love this.
Please, you guys are pleased to announce that you have a signing line.
Tell us about the signing line.
Love this.
I'm so glad it's back.
You know, listen, there was a lot of headaches, a lot of important problems that COVID caused.
But, you know, for us, it stopped us from being able to say thank you to the folks in the audience every night, every evening show since 1999.
We would finish what we're doing and go, you know, towel off whatever gets changed and then come out and meet anybody in the building who wants to say hello to us.
Now, over the years, we've made so many friends.
Again, a lot of the repeat offenders have come back, and maybe 20 years ago, they had their kids.
Now, their kids have children, so it's three generations of people.
And people used to come up to me and say, listen, because of last year's show, my daughter or my son wanted to take violin or guitar or piano lessons.
And that means that's the hidden treasure in my job.
I love hearing that.
And COVID, in the last five years, we weren't able to do it anymore.
It was just too risky.
I don't want to get anybody in the audience sick.
I certainly don't want anybody in the band getting sick.
So this year I've said, you know, I've had enough of this, you know, it is what it is.
We're just going to come out and again, every show in the evening, anybody in the building who wants to come by and say hello to us, please do.
There'll be a bunch of tables and chairs in, you know, one of the upper hallways across from a concession and we'll be there all night.
And I so can't wait to say hello to everybody again.
Always the violins that get all the attention
says
the disgruntled violist
Singers get all the glory and I just got to stand behind them.
I get it second fiddle.
No pun intended
I think I think guitarist get get some pretty good attention to their L. I think you do it.
Okay, not too bad.
Thank you.
Yeah, so tickets
are on sale tomorrow, September 12th, yeah, at the transciberian.com.
So there are two shows, Green Bay, Milwaukee, Green Bay is November 13th, and Milwaukee is the 27th.
There are going to be phenomenal shows.
What's more difficult and what's more fun for you, Al?
You're the musical director, one of the musical directors, and you play guitar.
I'm sure when you're on stage, you're in your element, but what's more fulfilling?
Both of them, to be honest with you, I mean, I grew up a guitar player first and I became a musical director about, I don't know, 35, 40 years ago.
And I love them both equally, but they're two completely different hats to wear.
You know, if I'm up there playing guitar, all I'm worried about is playing guitar.
But as the MD, you know, I'm constantly watching, I'm constantly listening, I'm constantly looking around.
My job is really easy until something goes sideways.
Yeah.
And then I got to be me and make sure that the audience never noticed there was a problem.
Now that could be a musical problem.
It could be a technical problem.
It could be a production problem.
But nobody in the audience will ever know that there was a problem.
I know, you know, it made me a better piano player being an MD.
It made me a better all around musician.
You know, I'm a student of music forever.
So I'm constantly, you know, right in front of me, I must have six or seven.
uh, different transcripts of different symphonies by different composers.
I'm constantly reading scores.
I'm constantly looking for new information just because, you know, if I have to write a part for the, uh, you know, the underscoring to that ration, I want to come up with something really deep and meaningful and pertinent to that.
So as a guitar player, I'm a guitar player as an MD.
I'm always trying to serve the song and making the show better because the story and the audience comes first.
That's a great answer.
What about, all right, let me ask you this.
How do you balance like your excitement?
Like you've been doing these shows.
First of all, you've got.
Tell me how you do this 64 cities in 48 days.
What is going on there?
You got evil twins or alter egos
or?
Well, it sounds well, it is a lot first and foremost, you know My band will do our 50 something shows a lot of them a double show days and it got chopped into two bands 99 we did our first tour.
There was seven cities on the on the itineraries.
I think 10 shows in seven cities
And then the following year, promoters from all over America, like we want to show, we want to show.
And my boss, the gentleman who started this whole thing, Paul O'Neill, said, look, dude, I can't get a band from Boston to Seattle to Fort Lauderdale to Green Bay.
It's not going to happen.
We only have like so much time to do this.
And he looked at me and he goes, okay, you take a couple of the original guys, start another band, and I'll take the remaining bunch from the original band and I'll stay up in the 13 colonies.
So 2000 is when it got chopped into two.
And I think by 2003,
We were running out of real estate and they said, look, you know, can you do a show at three in the afternoon?
Cause the night show sold out and I went, we're doing a rock and roll show at three.
Okay.
You know, we've been winging it from the jump.
And now, so if you look at the beginning with one box truck and a fog machine and then you fast forward, you know, 26 years, you know, last year, I think I had 21 tractor trails and 12 buses and a lot of fog machines.
But if you follow the trajectory and the evolution, then it's a little easier to follow.
And I know we laugh like rock and roll at three o'clock in the afternoon, but I'm sure like you guys say you have multi-generational fans.
So you've probably got some people that really appreciate a three o'clock in the afternoon show as opposed to a late night one.
So that's kind of nice that you guys offer that when things happen that way.
So, all right.
I'm trying to, I'm trying to hit on everything.
You guys have so much stuff.
You're donating a lot of your proceeds to charity too.
Tell us about
that because
that's pretty cool.
Well, that's all Paul O'Neill, again, my friend, you know, I mean, I met Paul E 1985.
We used to kick around the streets in New York city, going from studios to clubs, you know, some random pizza place in the middle of the night.
And no matter what, you know, we'd be walking and he'd stop and he'd throw somebody $5 bill to attend out whatever he had.
And he would tell me, he goes, okay, and that money is absolutely not going to change my life, but it may change that person's day.
And maybe they got a chance for a better tomorrow.
So you fast forward a bunch of years and we're doing our first show at the Tower Theater in Philadelphia in 99, first show ever TSO played.
And it sold out in like 45 minutes.
You know, we didn't know who was coming to the show.
We just know that, okay, we're sold out.
That's amazing.
And he says, listen, there's a show of appreciation.
I want to take $1 from every ticket we sold tonight and put it back into Philly.
And he goes, as a matter of fact, we're going to do that every ticket we sell forever.
Now, that's about almost 21 million tickets a go.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, dude.
He changed the world and I'm so proud of him.
It's so great to be.
That was not a lot of money.
It's not a lot, you know?
Right.
But it made a difference.
And I didn't mean to cut you off, but it is so great to be part of somebody who loved people so much and didn't talk about it, but did
it.
And $1, like you just said, from every ticket to local charity to date, the TSO
have distributed more than $20 million to worthy charities throughout North America.
If you didn't already need an incentive to go and hear this really cool show or see this really cool show, that's another incentive.
Al Petrelli is my guest.
He is the guitarist and musical director for the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
They have two Wisconsin dates coming up November 13th here at the Resch in Green Bay and then Green Bay, or I'm sorry, Milwaukee, the Pfizer Forum, December 27th.
Do you get more excited to play the classics, Al, like the big hits you guys have or maybe something newer that you haven't played as much?
Probably a little bit of both.
I mean, you know, when the housewives go down,
And the curtain comes up.
I immediately turned into a 14 year old.
So I'm just thrilled to be standing there at 63 years old, you know, but in all honesty, like, as soon as I hit the, you know, the first opening motif of Chris, Steve, Sarajevo, 12, 24, and I hear that audience erupt.
You know, I mean, I recorded that song almost 31 years ago.
And people still love it.
It still sounds brand new to me, even though it's what considered like one of our classics, if you will.
You know, there's probably four or five songs off that first album that I, you know, I could tell you, you know, what the studio looked like, smelled like, what we were doing, how we had no idea what this was going to become, you know, how innocent it was.
And then there's songs, you know, later in the catalog that are newer.
that maybe people in the audience hadn't heard, but I love watching their expressions change and hoping for a good reaction at the end.
But I'm pretty happy with everything we play.
It's a very dynamic show, so some of the more bombastic stuff is cool, yet some of the more intimate things, like a solo acoustic guitar and vocal piece, and you can hear a pin drop in that arena.
So I'm very proud of most of the catalog.
I enjoy playing all of it.
Very cool.
I do have a quick question.
How fast
do you
guys sell out?
Um, that I don't know any longer.
I knew that when it was brand new and it was only a couple of years, you know, again, if you sold out 3000 seats, everybody's talking about it.
But to be honest with you, I asked that question like the morning of the show, like, I'll get off the bus at 8am and I'll go to my production manager and say, how are we looking tonight?
He just gives me a big old smile.
I was like, my stroll were good.
I'm like, all right, cool.
I don't really have that answer.
I know that, uh,
We'll kind of, they go by percentages, by weekly sales and all that stuff, but we've been doing pretty good for a while now.
So if it sells out, fantastic.
If it doesn't sell out, well, all right, the people that are there are going to have a great
time.
I mean, I can say from my point of view, like anytime I've tried to get tickets, they're always sold out.
So I think it's pretty fast.
Yeah.
Best not to take any chances.
Tickets go on sale tomorrow at trans-siberian.com.
Al Patrelli, always great catching up with you, pal.
Have a great tour and a great holiday season and enjoy the game tonight.
All right, listen, it's seven, nothing already.
This is going great so far.
Always a pleasure to talk to you, my friend.
You stay well and have a great holiday and thanks for the time tonight.
I'll see you soon.
Anytime.
All right, Al Patralli, we are coming back to wrap things up next folks.
A nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media radio network.
careers.
Welcome back.
We're in the home stretch here at Nightlight, this Thursday night edition.
I'm Pete Schwab.
It is so great to have you with me.
I'd like to thank my guest tonight, Al Patrelli from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, tickets for their shows in Wisconsin, November 13th and December 27th in Milwaukee.
The 13th is here in Green Bay.
Go on sale tomorrow at trans-siberian.com.
My guests, oh, tomorrow night, I will be off, folks, but IdeaFest is going on here at Civic Media.
Capital Times, IDFS, Tim Walls will be a guest.
That's tomorrow on the network.
So check that out.
And if you're in the Green Bay area, we will be airing a best of Green Bay show with Dan Marcus, Laura McKenna and Eric Westfall from previous interviews.
Always fun stuff.
And they are a lot of fun to talk about.
From the 608, the answer to our question tonight, what is the most depressing song you can hear in a grocery store?
608 says, for most depressing song discussion, my grandkids sent me one about a guy who goes back to his hometown for the funeral of his cousin he lost touch with who has burned to death.
Burned to death?
Maybe called Clarissa.
Oh.
That sounds like a horrible song to hear anywhere.
You gotta wonder what genre song it is now.
I am really curious.
It's gotta be country.
John Murray.
From the 608 on the text line says You're 16.
You're beautiful and you're mine.
That is who is that is that?
I Can't remember who sings that song He says can't even hear this one again for like every reason possible before I had a daughter and a conscience.
It was fine.
I was aloof Bad.
Yeah, that's a bad song.
All those yeah wrinkle star actually you're 16.
You're beautiful and you're mine
Great point, John.
There's straight cats, sexy in 17.
I think the Beatles had a song.
She was just 17.
And you know what I mean?
All those songs about men being tempted by younger, forget it, done.
It's
like, you realize now, and I wasn't old enough to even know what they were talking about back then, but like, yeah, just it's good riddance.
Did you answer this question?
You did.
I
did.
Yeah.
Sarah McLaughlin.
Sarah McLaughlin.
And you might be the winner, I might have to say.
Hey, we have a clip here I'd like to get to.
This is great.
Before you get to the clip.
Yes.
Yes, please.
Yes.
One more reminder.
One more reminder that if you text in the word popcorn.
Yes.
Text in the word popcorn, you'll win tickets to the 2025 Dialogues Documentary Festival in Milwaukee going on September 18th through the 21st.
It's a great event.
Over four days.
They're
going to walk you film.
Yeah.
And present 30 plus films in the Oriental and downer theaters.
And it's pretty awesome.
Two great venues.
Just text in the word popcorn and we've got tickets for you to attend.
I think you have your pick if I'm not mistaken.
So check text in the word popcorn.
And these tickets are yours.
Just a final remodeling here before we get out of here.
Thank you to Milwaukee film.
Yeah.
Milwaukee film is awesome.
The Milwaukee Film Festival.
You ever been there?
I have not.
Outstanding.
One of the best film festivals you'll find they do great work at Milwaukee Film.
I want to play this clip because I thought this was hilarious.
Ray Romano talking about his brother, where the title Everybody Loves Raymond Comes From, and he was, he's talking about his real-life brother compared to his TV brother.
Here we
go.
You know, we wrote the show based on my life, so it was based on my brother in real life, who really was a cop in the New York City cop, but he was like 5'10".
And he had this kind of bitterness, but nothing like Brad brought into it, into the role.
So that was a lucky accident.
And he had bitterness about you, your success?
He coined the phrase, this is what nobody knows, which is what I hate, is that everybody loves Raymond.
Which you hate that, you hate that.
Yeah, yeah.
Wasn't a title I wanted.
It was a quote from my brother said sarcastically in real life.
Yeah, he came over my house, he sort of like, I won like a Cable Ace Award, which we don't, yeah.
And he said, look at it, what's this?
I go, yeah, I got it, they just gave me an award.
And he just goes, look at this, look at our lives.
You know, he was a cop, New York City cop.
He said, people spit at me.
They shoot at me.
Everybody loves Raymond.
And so that got in the show.
And Phil Rosenthal said, let's use it as a working title, just a working title.
And I said, oh, it's going to stick.
That's so great.
I love it.
Were you a fan of that show?
I watched it here and there.
I
wouldn't say it was a fan fan.
No, I'm the same way.
I thought it was fine.
And Ray was a great stand up.
Still is.
But I thought that story was hilarious.
So what do you think?
Sydney Sweeney is a boxer.
You buying that?
No.
I do credit her for the soap is ridiculous and whatever.
Sometimes she's hard to take seriously, but she does try to do different roles against type.
But the boxer thing I'm struggling with.
I don't see that.
Is she a boxer in real life or a boxer for a music
week?
She apparently threw herself into the role.
She trained.
She's supposed to portray Christy Martin, who was the best female boxer in the 90s, and had a whole list of problems outside the ring, so to speak.
But she was a great boxer.
And I think this is like a passion project for Sidney Sweeney.
And that was in the Hollywood beats.
Those will come out tomorrow.
So you can check out the trailer.
But I don't know.
That doesn't really do much for me.
I don't know.
I feel like she's one of those who, like, becomes the role.
Yeah.
She tries.
Listen, she's... And I'm not saying she's a bad actress.
She does have... Like, she was great in White Lotus season one, because she has that kind of sassy, suburban, spoiled, rich girl look to her.
And she was very funny.
Other roles, it's hard to... It's kind of a stretch.
I feel
like she...
It's gonna be interesting to see if she can pull it off though.
Yeah, totally.
I mean,
it could be one of those things where she does it and it's great.
Right.
Or it's horrendous and it's gonna haunt her.
It'll haunt the viewers.
Although, probably, yeah, haunt the viewers.
I was gonna say, if Bathwater didn't do it, I suppose
a
bad movie isn't.
Exactly.
Folks, I will be back live on Monday.
Eric Westfall, WGBW.
afternoon host will be with me in studio talking about a really funny play he is a part of.
It's a play, one of those plays where everything goes wrong.
And then Max Blaska will be here in the second hour talking about a mental health film festival that he founded that is just great.
We've got Trapper Shep on the show next week, hoping to get actor Mike McGill, who's Appleton, hails from Appleton.
He's no longer in Appleton, but great actor.
But he will be on the show one way or the other soon.
Amanda, thank you so much.
This was fun.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I'm Pete Chihuahua, folks.
Thank you for all your texts.
Thank you to Al Patrelli and Steve Siegren on behalf of producer Amanda Nimmer.
I'm Pete Chihuahua saying goodnight, Wisconsin.