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Children’s Museum of Green Bay and John Candy(Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Sep 10, 2025
to make things right, to make people happy tonight.
It is.
Can we do that?
I think so.
Are you happy?
Yep.
Are you a happy person in general?
Yeah.
Or did you just put it on a happy face when you're here?
Do you leave every night, you leave the studio and just you're just a miserable person?
No.
I don't think so.
I didn't get that from you.
Okay, that's good.
All right, very good.
So did you have a good day?
Yeah, got a nice haircut.
You did?
That's a, that is, you know what I'm gonna say?
It's a haircut you can set your watch by.
You know, I always go in there and I say, you know, just keep it high and tight.
High and tight, baby.
I'm due for a high and tight.
I gotta, probably next week I'll get in the chair.
High and tight?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I don't know.
You know, I think I told you this.
I used to, every summer I would shave my head because it felt so great.
When was that?
That was like, I mean, going back to the mid-tooth,
My job at SportsSoup, when I was a staff writer and performer on the show.
And I had, my buddy KP Edison hired me.
I was the last writer hired.
And I showed up and all the other writers had already been situated.
And I walked in with my head shaved.
And one guy told me three months later, I thought you were gonna kill us.
I guess I looked that scary.
I think I have a nice face, a friendly face.
But apparently, you know, in like 2014, I shaved my head and
Mary Pecorny-Donald, who has been on this show before, the producer of some of the shows I do on PBS Wisconsin said, please tell me that's gonna grow out before we record.
Like, I don't know what it is.
It feels great, but it does, it puts you in a category where people think you're either an ex-con, a white supremacist, or some kind of crazy, I don't know what it is, but it feels great.
When you shave your head, it feels amazing.
It's liberating.
I've never shaved my
head.
Dude, you gotta.
I'm good.
Why?
What do you, what do you, and I don't mean to like put,
Hold your feet to the fire, Con.
But like, what are you losing by shaving other than your hair?
What are you?
I really like my hair.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
You got good
hair?
It
grows
back, though.
I never want to, like, lose it, you know?
Because here's what would
happen.
There's a thing where it could happen.
It's like, you shave it, and it just doesn't grow
back.
You're the guy.
Yeah.
It could happen.
I guess it could.
You could talk yourself into that habit.
You would meet the girl of your dreams the day you shaved your head and she would just like, please stay away from me.
Don't ever.
I'm gonna keep hair as long as I have it, you know?
Do you think you'll keep your hair?
Do you have anyone in your family that, did your mom's dad lose his hair?
You know, I have both of them.
Yeah, both of them had some pretty solid hair.
Okay.
So, my dad doesn't.
That shouldn't matter though, right, based on the science.
Your dad has great hair.
He just doesn't have a lot of it.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
The hair he has is
fine.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, he likes to wear hats now, so.
Okay.
See, now your dad might want to, a lot of guys that lose their hair shave their head.
Because they're just like, okay.
And a lot of them look great.
Like, it's a great look for the right person.
I'm just saying, I stopped doing it, mostly because my kids said, my kids both said, Dad, you look like a psycho.
Okay, so don't, yeah, this is a recommendation when you go get your haircut.
You know, high and tight, not a shave.
Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do yet.
I might get a body wave or a perm.
What about a
mullet?
The shave the sides off, that's it.
You know, the mullet though is one of those haircuts that you're branding yourself.
You're telling people what kind of music you like.
Listen, I'm not saying there aren't guys with mullets that are like Rhodes Scholars, but typically when you see a mullet, I don't know.
What do you think when you see a guy with a mullet?
He likes Billy Ray Cyrus, which is fine, but I don't know.
I mean, I think of country probably.
Okay.
First thing that comes to mind.
But it branched out from country.
Everybody had one like in the 90s, you know.
I never had the mullet.
Not too late.
I did have a little phase right a skater here.
What's that
like?
You've seen Justin Bieber when he was younger.
He had that
long
hair that like
I kind of shaved on the sides like
he'd like flick it.
Oh I Can't see you doing that you guys I
did no I did do that Wow, and it was it was long Okay, I'm glad there was one time my brother was like
Just get a good haircut.
I went in there, got a good haircut, and I've been using the same haircut ever since.
Yeah.
I think the phrase business in the front party in the back is one of the greatest things I've ever heard in my life.
So that is one thing the mullet gave to us.
And I would say, even in the world of country, the mullet is not that popular.
There's a lot out there.
Oh, yeah.
But they're everywhere.
Yeah.
It's all right.
This has been Hair Talk with Beach Wobble.
We're coming right back.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we've got a really fun show tonight.
Our pal Heather Heil from the Green Bay Children's Museum is gonna be in the studio tonight.
And we're gonna give her, Heather brought up the fact, she's a huge John Candy fan.
She is the one who alerted me to a new John Candy documentary called I Like Me.
Apparently not a bad word has ever been said about John Candy.
I mean, people love the guy.
Like what you see on the screen is kind of who he is.
And I think he might have had some drug issues or something, but nothing that like everybody loved the guy.
Apparently he was a great dad.
He's great in every movie.
He's a great actor.
You know, he's funny, but he's also a great actor.
So we'll talk about John Candy with Heather, we'll fill you in on what's going on across the river at the Green Bay Children's Museum.
They have a really cool event coming up, they have several coming up actually, and some great exhibits that we'll talk about.
And then this is exciting too.
At 7.35 tonight, Ethan Ogilby will be here.
Ethan was on the show in April, and I interviewed him right before his screening of his film, The Threesome.
that took place at the Wisconsin Film Festival.
Ethan wrote it.
He is the scribe, as they say, in Hollywood.
And there's a great twist in the film.
It's really good.
I've said this before on the show.
It's one of the best rom-coms I've ever seen.
Not a huge fan of the genre, but I have my favorites.
And this is one of them.
And Ethan will be here because we're going to discuss how his film went from this little independent film, this great script he wrote, to an independent film, to a festival darling, and now it's in the big theaters.
Like he fulfilled the entire trajectory there for a writer.
So Ethan will be here at 7.35.
Very excited to talk to Ethan again on Nightlight.
And we have a great question tonight, and it involves something I just talked about, so let's not waste any more time and get to the nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk
about the question.
OK, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
OK, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
What is your favorite John Candy movie?
Very simple tonight, folks.
Straightforward, he's one of those.
Actors or personalities where we can just use his body of work for the question of the night because even People who don't consider themselves moving nuts know about John Candy and have seen his work so I have to say I Mean I like the guy in so much stuff, but I'm gonna have to say planes trains and automobiles just because I think it's one of the best films ever made It's such
a good every single second in that movie.
I feel like you're entertained
There is no fat in that movie.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
It's great.
So what do you say, Conn?
Uncle Buck.
Uncle Buck.
It is so funny.
That's one of those movies where I'll put on like, if I'm like, I can't find anything, but there's Uncle Buck.
Comfort food.
It is.
It's so funny.
He plays, he plays such a great role in that.
He's, he's, he's like one of the most likable.
And look, I don't know the guy I never met him.
He's like one of the most likable.
people on screen in movie history.
And supposedly in this documentary, I like me, that's what they talk about, like what a likable guy he is.
In most documentary films, you know, a lot of documentarians are journalists.
They want to present both sides of a story.
And you know, John Candy, there's not one bad word about him in this documentary.
Everybody loved the guy.
Yeah.
So, and he died.
Well, this is one of the questions.
So if, if Heather is listening, I probably shouldn't say, but he died pretty young.
So, we will talk to Heather about John Candy.
We will give her our John Candy quiz.
You can play along if you like, folks, over the text line.
But if you want to answer our question of the night, what is your favorite John Candy movie, please do so.
Our phone number is 855-752-4842-8557-5.
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That would be much appreciated too.
So great to have you folks.
We have a fun show.
It's Wednesday night here in Green Bay.
The farmer's market is in full swing.
And I guess they're extending it to eight o'clock throughout the fall, right?
Con that means I won't find parking.
Yeah.
Well, I have a parking spot, but it's a block away.
What am I, camel?
I can't walk that far.
It's
not that far.
It's not too bad.
It's good to have a spot.
But anyway,
it's good to get a nice walk, you know, in every day.
Yeah, but if it is, it's like a block.
It's not doing anything for me.
I can't get my heart rate up.
It's like a chaste.
You
could run.
I
could run.
So fun show tonight, folks.
Be part of it.
It is Nightlight with P. Schwabba.
You've got the Civic Media Radio Network, I will say.
And I don't know, I knew you were excited about this Conrad.
The Bachelorette has been chosen for the new season.
And it sounds like they've got themselves a doozy.
Taylor, Frankie, Paul.
Is that all first names?
Made up, yeah, probably.
All first names.
Yeah, and two of them are, let's be honest, two of them are hot first names.
Taylor and Frankie.
Not Paul.
Well, not to me.
Paul's probably a hot name to some people.
Seems very bit Paul's a very basic name.
It's a solid American name.
You named Paul.
Is it short for anything?
Paulette Paula Paulsef.
I don't think Paulsef is a real name, but Paulina Paulina
I don't think it is.
But anyway, Shia, this is hilarious.
I didn't know any, I'm not a reality TV show guy.
So I kind of found when I write the Hollywood beats, this will be out in my beats tomorrow or tonight online.
If you, you know, folks, I should, I should tell people I've been writing the beats out in article style and they're on the website.
So you can read the beats if you prefer the written word or you can hear them at the bottom of the hour throughout the day on the network.
But this Taylor Frankie Paul, she got embroiled in a scandal.
on the secret lives of hot Mormon wives.
Oh, sorry, I added a word there.
It's the secret life of Mormon wives.
They all were part of this soft swinging group.
It was a TikTok group called Mom Talk.
It was soft swinging.
That does not mean the men had erectile dysfunction.
That meant that it was just soft swinging.
They weren't supposed to have sex.
However, our new bachelorette, Taylor Frankie-Paul, did get pregnant.
From one of the guys and they had a baby and she already had two kids and they ended up together So as it turns out you can get pregnant from a kiss
Interesting
it has to be one hell of a kiss.
Obviously they crossed the line She also threw something at her husband that hit her kid and she got charged with a third degree felony now the husband was I think the instigator
But how bad would you feel if you're retaliating against your husband and you hit your child and you get charged with a third of your felony?
Anyway, she's your bachelorette, so tread cautiously fellows.
Well,
not too late to throw your name in.
I think I might.
Or wait till she ends up on Milf Manor.
All right.
This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight.
We are coming right back to read your text, and I'm going to tell you something cool about John Handy.
We're coming right back.
I'm Pete Schwab.
This is Nightlight.
Great to have you folks on this Wednesday night.
Downtown Green Bay is alive with people attending the farmers market.
You might be listening.
I hope you're listening to us, but I want to let you all know that Civic Media is part of IdeaFest with the Capital Times, and that will be on the network Friday night as well.
Some of you might be listening to IdeaFest right now.
And if you are, you're not hearing me say that.
But Friday night, it is happening too.
I will not be here Friday night.
We will, we're having a Best of Green Bay show, right, Con?
Yeah, Dan Marcus, Laura McKenna, and Eric Wessel.
How do you like that?
Three recent graduates of the Nightlight Radio show with Peach Wawa, they were all fun to have on as guests.
And we decided we need to put this out there because we will still be on in Green Bay.
Well, we just found that out yesterday.
So we put together kind of the best of Green Bay show, which we think will be a lot of fun with our three favorite new friends, Dan, Laura, and Eric.
So tune in Friday night for that.
Or check out IdeaFest, all kinds of fun stuff happening here at Civic Media this week.
Conrad will be out tomorrow.
Correct.
So when you text in, it might not be Conrad that is receiving the text.
It will be Amanda Nimmer.
It will be Amanda Nimmer.
And I've got something to say to her too.
She had a big weekend last weekend at the Sputnik
Fest.
Oh, yeah.
What she sent was pretty cool.
Yeah.
You should definitely...
Her son is just a costume mogul at these concerts.
He could possibly make a living doing this kind of stuff.
Every single year.
So we'll have Amanda filling in tomorrow night for Conrad.
That will be fun to catch up with Amanda as well.
So here's a cool thing I thought about John Candy.
So he was part of SCTV in Toronto.
Second City has a chapter, I guess you'd say, in Toronto, one in Chicago.
And John Candy was a big part of the one in Toronto.
And that one was legendary.
I mean, the one in Chicago is legendary too, but Toronto turned out stars and comedic stars.
Like Martin Short, Catherine O'Hara, Andrea Martin, Eugene Levy, John Candy.
I mean, they were...
with comedic talent who all went on to have amazing careers.
But the thing I thought was cool was that John Candy, they tried to get John Candy on Saturday Night Live.
They tried to sort of, you know, recruit him to be part of this other phenomenon that America had called Saturday Night Live.
John Candy said, no, out of loyalty to his cast members at SCTV.
And that's what I'm talking about.
That's everything I've read about John Candy.
There's just nothing bad.
And that is a really cool thing, too.
No one would have blamed him, either, had he gone to Saturday Night Live.
That's what you do this for.
That's what you do sketch comedy for.
But John Candy remained loyal to his mates, his fellow players up at SCTV.
I think that's really cool.
You know what I saw today?
You ever see people who walk?
I don't know if you realize this.
When we walk, we do opposite arm, opposite leg.
You've never
noticed this before?
No, no, I've noticed this before.
I said, I don't know if you've noticed this before.
Yeah, I have.
Because you've, you know, you're kind of a young guy.
But when, every once in a while, you'll see people walking the same arm, same leg today.
And that looks strange.
Today, I saw a guy running same arm, same leg.
It was one of the most awkward.
No, that's not how you do it though.
You gotta go.
I'm trying to.
You look like a cartoon character if you try to do it.
Like Bugs Bunny or something.
Yeah, I just wanted to say do you need help or something like let me Straighten you out like that's got to be
do you think you just never learned how to run and that's him trying to figure it out?
Probably I mean is it it could be like a neurological thing Maybe he said he's like this actually helps you burn calories faster.
I Still wouldn't do it.
He's still like that much of a goof
Our question of the night folks is what is your favorite John Candy movie Conrad Krieger?
We already covered this at Uncle Buck I say planes trains and automobiles known simply as PTA in my house because we don't have time to say the whole title and it's one of our favorite films On social media Matt says planes trains.
That's another one PTA planes trains It's just one of those movies.
So iconic.
Thank you, Matt Jody Hemman planes trains and automobiles Nick Wallander our pal from Depeer
funny, funny man Nick says, Uncle Buck.
Great choice.
This is going to be a, this is going to come down to the wire tonight.
I feel like Uncle Buck is making a very strong showing toward planes, trains and automobiles.
There's that, you know, I'm not going to say it because it's part of the quiz.
Yeah.
But that one scene where he's flipping something huge is hilarious.
Yes.
I love that.
And it's, it's, it's so good.
That's like one of my favorite parts when he's making those.
It's phenomenal.
And I realized that, you know, we might not have as many texts tonight because of Ideas Fest.
Yes.
Ideas Fest, which is fine if people are listening on the radio.
So this could be a still a contest.
It could still come down to the wire, though.
Dave on social media, I'm sorry, I'm watching on YouTube says Uncle Buck.
It's just three to three.
Yes, just such a good movie.
It's a good movie.
It's not as good as Plains, Trans, and Allmobiles.
And that is the hill I will die on.
Well,
as a movie, as an overall movie.
Not even
close.
Yes, I mean, but I think that he shares the screen with, you know, such a great actor in that.
Steve
Martin, yeah.
You know, in Uncle Buck.
He's a
show.
It's just him.
He's the main guy.
That's a great point.
And he, you know, in all of his other movies that he is in, many of them are small roles, but he steals them.
He's just that great.
Sidney Frankenstein.
He's also watching on YouTube.
Love that name.
I think Sidney changed the last name, if I'm not mistaken.
Sidney says Uncle Buck.
There's another one.
Uncle Buck is in the lead.
Yeah.
Wow.
We've got issues here tonight.
So we've got that.
I don't know.
We got a lot going on.
Heather Heil is here after the news, folks.
We are going to give her a John Candy quiz.
It's going to be pretty special.
And you're welcome to play along.
We've got funny clips throughout.
to help Heather along and see if she can guess the movie.
She does pretty well with her quizzes, wouldn't you say?
Yeah, I'd say, I don't know how many she's on.
I think it's four.
I think she's four for four.
She's done four quizzes?
I'm pretty sure.
It's very impressive, because she's only been on the show three times.
Ethan Ogilby is here too, folks.
At 735, the writer of the hit new rom-com, The Threesome, which is now in theaters.
That's at 735, a jam-packed show here on Nightlight.
So great to have you with me.
We are coming back with our pal, Heather Heil, right after the news on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwabba and it is so fun to have you here.
If you are joining us from Ideas Fest or just need a break from Ideas Fest to laugh a little or contribute to the show, that's fine too.
You can't go wrong on any civic media dial tonight.
So we have a very exciting, this is one of our favorite guys.
She comes into the studio all the time.
She knows more about Green Bay than I've forgotten in a lifetime in my little pinky.
Thank you.
Is that a
phrase?
Sure.
If it's not, let's make it one.
Heather Hile, ladies and gentlemen, from the Green Bay Children's Museum, she's the director of business affairs, and she knows, I mean, you seem like you know everything in Green Bay.
How does that happen?
I try
to.
But how?
You have a real job that keeps you busy, 40 hours a week, probably more, but you still know everything that's going on.
You've just told me about three TV shows you're watching, and you're...
Preparing to ace a John Candy
quiz.
I am so yes, hopefully I truly believe in mind body spirit So every day like I take that time for myself So I make sure that I'm doing things that are good for my mind and I'm exercising while I'm exercising I will put on my trash TV shows to watch
so I
get a like a little fix
there and just my community.
So in a truthful story, I went through a program about 20 years ago here in Green Bay called Leadership Green Bay.
And it's a program that teaches you about community leadership.
And through those relationships of 20 years, I just stay connected with what these amazing humans are doing in our community and love to just make our community better for everyone that lives in it.
You
became part of the community.
I did.
And so if I can
support people and do those things, and I always just try to make sure that, you know, we all are giving gifts in this world, and I want to make sure that I'm using mine to my fullest potential.
I can't top that.
I think we just got to end the show right there.
You can't.
Mic drop.
Listen, you opened with a showstopper, and that is rule number one in show business.
I
know, but you asked a question and I was trying to be honest.
That's Heather Hylph.
It's prepared to be dazzled.
It's just gonna keep coming.
You said trash TV.
Do you watch The Bachelor or The Bachelorette?
So I'm not watching that kind of trash TVs.
Like the documentaries I watch are something that I can like binge and do those things.
So lately I've been on The Huntington Wives.
Have you heard about this show?
No.
It's on Netflix and it is trash TV.
It is hard.
It's
vulgar.
It's women in the South and dirty politics and some bisexual relationships.
Women are men.
Women.
Yeah.
And so the woman lead actress in it, Margo, is the same actress that was the sister in 27 dresses.
Her name escapes me right
now.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I can't think of it either.
I'm just asking because they hired this woman, Frankie Paul, what's her?
Taylor Frankie Paul, who was on the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Okay.
And apparently they got caught, they were all soft swingers.
But she got pregnant from soft swinging, doubted.
Yeah.
Anyway, she had a child with this other husband and they were together and she already had two kids and now she's the...
And she was arrested for a third degree felony for throwing something at her husband.
He was doing stuff too.
He's a bad, he was, it was both of them.
She sounds like a good time.
But she, I think I'm in love.
She threw something at him and hit the kid and she got charged.
She's the new Bachelorette.
Now these Mormon lives, she was like 16 when, and it's a very male dominated society.
I have a little sympathy, but at some point I'm like, can't the Bachelorette pick someone?
without the baggage?
No, because it just makes the trash TV.
It does.
I should
be watching that because that's right up
my alley to be.
I just gave you a recommendation.
I know you
did, so thank you.
I appreciate that.
Thank you, thank
you.
See, and that's our problem when you come on the show.
We have so much fun stuff, adult stuff to talk about.
but you work at this amazing children's museum.
Right.
So, and I honestly, I feel because I'm 90% of my life in this G-rated Disney world.
Yeah.
Sometimes I just need to bring myself back to adult real world
problems.
You go crazy and you just have a nutty weekend.
And also, like, Pete, I just feel like it's so far from my reality that it just intrigues me of, I...
I don't understand it.
And that's why I kind of keep watching it and going, what, wait a minute, what?
Like when Dance Moms was on originally with Abby Lee Miller, I was addicted to that show.
And it's awful.
It's horrible, horrible
show.
Is that Honey Boo Boo?
No, that
was
before that.
That's like the JoJo Siwa and
all of those
things.
But just the way that these mothers acted, I could not wrap my head around because thankfully here in our community, we have some pretty incredible mothers that I just could not see.
treating their children that way.
We don't have your Frankie Taylor paws.
We don't have your Charlie Sheens.
He's got another one.
He has a two-part documentary.
He does.
I was reading all the stuff that guy's done.
A, I don't know how he's still alive.
Right.
And B, I'm like, should I have lived a little more?
Am I the most boring person in the world?
Am I not doing it right?
Yeah, Conrad at least got a haircut today.
I've done nothing.
It looks
nice.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
But I think in keeping with your day job, the G-rated day job that you have and you do a great job at, we've got a great discussion piece tonight in John Candy, who everybody loved.
Okay, so.
Thank you so much for talking about this with me because literally the day we were texting about coming in I had watched the trailer for John Candy's I Like Me that official trailer and I really like adored him.
I was sobbing Watching that trailer and I wrote down a couple of like quotes from that trailer that just were so pivotal to me of Steve Martin says Some things are painful.
That's it and you can't make them not painful
What was he referencing?
He's
referencing John Candy's life of how like he had the whole Who was the other actor who ended up ending his life because he was Robin
Williams
of how happy they are on the outside and how inside they're just people pleasers and want to do all of these really good things and that Not that that resonated with me.
That's not the words I'm looking for but that really
Made me stop and think of I know a lot of really happy people in my life.
Are they okay?
Yeah Yeah, that's interesting you say that because I had heard and I don't know much about I try to judge people just on their work Unless they've got something crazy creepy in their closet I can forgive most you know, right?
And I thought he had some drug issues, but I don't ever remember like
He was supposedly a great dad.
His co-stars loved him.
So if he was hurting on the inside, he must have been great at hiding
this.
He was.
And also, part of that documentary, Pete, was the producer talking about, quote, unquote, if you go a lifetime eating your feelings, drinking your feelings, smoking
your
nerves.
it's gonna show up later.
And that was also, and I thought, we also all need to be listening to that,
that
we're making sure that we're not placing those things slowly into it, because that's what he did.
And Macaulay Culkin is in this documentary because of course, the Home Alone series and how John Candy was one of the first people who recognized that stuff was going on with him.
And
he would check in with him every day.
Yes,
how beautiful is that?
Just what a kind
Amazing human.
But also the backbone this guy had, like he was part of SCTV, which in its own right, maybe a lot of times funnier than Saturday Night Live.
Even in its heyday, they had some of the most brilliant stuff ever.
But he turned down the penultimate gig at Saturday Night Live because he felt loyal to his players in SCTV.
That just speaks volumes.
So we're going to do our quiz, but let's get to some of the stuff that's going on locally here.
You've got really cool stuff coming up at the Green Bay.
Children's Museum, my guest is their director of business development, Heather Heil, who joins us here periodically in the studio.
And it's always a good sport about taking your quiz.
We're going to give her a John Candy quiz shortly, but I want to ask you about the Enchanted Forest fundraise.
Beyond the Enchanted Forest fundraise you have coming up.
Thank you so
much.
So it's one of our signature fundraisers.
So the Children's Museum of Green Bay has an adults evening where we raise money to help support the mission of what we're doing at the Children's Museum of Green Bay, which is to educate our children and families and give them.
all opportunities, everyone, regardless of their backgrounds, everyone can play at our Children's
BC.
So
this helps to fund and further that mission.
So the Beyond fundraiser this year, the theme is Enchanted Forest and we try to take stories.
fairy stories past what you would think that they were because we teach imagination at the Children's Museum.
So let's
do it as adults as well.
So for instance, last year it was beyond Wonderland.
So I don't want to give any surprises away for this year, but...
last year's theme, the Red Queen from Alice in Wonderland was actually a performing drag queen who was going throughout the evening and off with their heads and just doing submission based
things at the
event.
So there's food and there's drink and art and artist and...
All sorts of crazy fun.
October 3rd, it's at Legacy Hotel.
You can find more information about that on our Facebook page and get tickets.
It is $200 a person to get into that.
And then that's your food and of course, supporting the museum there.
And there'll be some fundraising opportunities, of course, at that event.
So that's a thing for adults though.
Correct,
adults
only.
21 and over.
I was gonna say 200 bucks a pop is a little stiff for kids.
That's a lot of allowances.
That really sounds fun.
You have like a cool setting when people get there for the party.
We do.
So it's
Enchanted Forest.
So
we're going to transform the lobby and the ballroom there
into an
Enchanted Forest and of course have our performers and things that you might find in Enchanted Forest doing different things and performances and just some really fun surprises.
Wow.
Okay.
So I've never been there.
to the museum?
I've never been there.
I've never lived in Green Bay.
You're
killing
me.
I know.
You
are invited any single time you want to.
Just let me know because every adult needs a child and every child needs an adult to
come into our custody.
Who gots 200 bucks?
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
Conrad?
I thank you.
Plus party.
You should.
Yeah.
No, but what I want to say is like, every time you come in here and I'm like, how have I not been there?
And maybe we took our kids there when we were still living in LA or something and visiting.
I kind of have memories of it, but like, every time you come in here and you say these amazing things, I ask myself, A, how big is that building?
We're so small.
Bigger
than small?
We're small.
We are so small and we are busting at the same speed.
So I am still trying to raise this million dollars to finish out this first phase of this capital campaign to expand my building.
And that's, it's a huge undertaking in this climate right now.
People are watching stock markets, they're paying attention to things.
So,
Yeah, we really just need-
Do tariffs apply to
donations?
Well, they apply to the lumber I'm trying to build to build my building.
So that changes things.
And I don't mean to laugh.
What I was gonna ask you was, what is, if someone hasn't been there, like me, let's say someone doesn't even know about all the cool stuff that's there.
What is your one line pitch that would get people to the museum if they haven't been there?
It is a place for adults to learn to play and children to play to learn.
That's
what we do.
So we have
right now.
I did not coach her folks.
She did not know that question.
I didn't.
We have
12 interactive exhibits that we encourage those kids to navigate and what's right for them.
That's how they learn the world around them.
And you think of the questions of what do I want to be when I grow up.
And it's very fascinating to watch children
interact
in the exhibits when they're in our grocery store.
And they're listening to everything you say.
And you know
that as a
parent.
So when they're walking to pay for their groceries, they're like, well, just charge it.
Like that magic credit card
is just
going to.
What?
Where did you, you know, so?
That's
hilarious.
Yeah, just working on financial literacy with them and just doing it in a fun way.
You're so right though.
Some of my best times as a parent was when we would go to like a jimberee or a children's museum and you just watch them.
go to town without you, and you just see what they start to do and what they've picked up on in the real world that they've brought to this experience.
It's so great.
When we come back, folks, with Heather Heil, we're going to talk about Breakfast with Santa?
Maybe we'll push in for that?
Yeah, Breakfast with
Santa.
We've already launched tickets, and that's almost full,
people.
Oh, come on,
really?
I know.
It's September, and we're talking about Breakfast with Santa, and it's almost full.
So if you want to go to this,
You're
going to want to get your tickets.
We'll talk about that and we'll talk about the Fusion Express Orchestra, John Kelly and the Fusion Express.
We're going to talk about all this and do a John Candy quiz with our guest, the amazingly talented Heather Heil.
We're coming right back.
It's Night Light with Peach Waba.
My sweet love, my love, my sweet love.
Welcome back.
I almost tried to sing along with Billy Preston.
I know.
I usually
like to sing too.
And I'm like, nope, don't even try, girl.
It sounds so good when I'm alone in the shower.
Right?
Or in the car?
Or in the car, yeah.
I loved you when you pull into your driveway and you have the music crank, do you turn it down right before you pull into the driveway?
because you don't want people to hear all those things.
Yeah, like, okay,
we're just pulling in my driveway.
Or sometimes you get in your car and you didn't turn it down, you're like, woo,
I was a party girl last night.
Yeah, what was I doing?
I do like just, have you ever been busted?
Like when someone passes you and you're like, ah, like in your city.
Oh, for sure.
I just
lean into it and just
like give them a show.
What do you do,
right?
Yeah.
I'm not trying to impress you, Mr. John Q. Just loving my music.
John Q. Darche, Darche, Darch driver.
Yeah, I do it all the time.
Do you?
They look in, and I'm singing, and I'm just like, you know what?
I'll keep going.
Just take it to another level.
Conrad, this green note is making me crazy.
I can't see your face.
Oh, really?
What is that?
Is there a memo?
There's a green memo there
in front of me, and I'm like, Conrad, I need to see you.
It's a laminated of the times I needed
of break.
Of things that
he, like, technical things
to
make you and I sound amazing, and we appreciate it.
Oh, thank you, Conrad.
I just, I'm admiring that new hairdo of yours.
Don't take that from me.
Look at, he's got the tattoo, he's got a haircut.
I know, he's got it all going on.
He likes margaritas.
He's got a makeover, I think, since the last time you've been here.
I know.
Does he have a girl?
Is
there a girl?
He doesn't
ever tell me anything.
He thinks I'm going to tease him or something.
I would never do that.
Yeah, you tease me all the time.
Do I really?
No I don't.
I'm just kidding.
I tease you more than you do.
You do and I'm still trying to figure out do I treat you like a heckler and just beat you down or do I ha ha go on?
You laugh together.
Let's figure it out, yeah.
Exactly.
But you don't have a serious girlfriend.
No.
Okay.
Boyfriend?
No.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm cool with whatever.
Yeah, I know you
are.
But is there someone new?
Who knows?
He's not where who he is on his sleeve other than that tattoo.
And that's not really honestly.
I love this for you Conrad.
I
love this.
Do you know anybody you could set Conrad up with?
No.
Most of the people I know are single for a reason.
Because they're crazy?
No, they just have very specific things they're looking for and a significant other.
Have you ever done an online dating service?
Me?
No.
Would you recommend?
No, I'm married.
I'm old.
So I rarely see other women.
Something to go to the grocery store.
Listen, my wife hates going to the grocery store.
I'm like a people person.
I love running errands.
Is that weird?
No, it's not weird.
I like doing
it when I have time.
Absolutely.
Talk to the people.
I need you both to talk to my wife, let her know I'm not such a bad guy.
All right, so tell us, my guest is Heather Heil, who is the business director of business development at the Green Hill Children's Music.
It's a big title.
And to be honest, I don't think it totally encapsulates everything you do there.
I mean, I'm sure you develop business, but I mean, you seem like you kind of do a lot more stuff.
It is a non-for-profit.
So anyone who's ever worked in non-for-profit knows that if a toilet gets clogged with a truck that a child puts down there, someone needs to fish
it out.
So we kind of all are a team, and we do what we have to do to get it done.
I see.
I want to make jokes, but I remember that you're working it.
OK.
Tell us about what's coming up after we read this text.
Craig Canit, thank you, Conrad says.
Also, the Children's Museum.
Oh, he says, wait a minute.
Also, this is just about the Children's Museum.
Oh, okay.
He says, it's amazing, a great place for the little ones.
Thank you, Craig.
Craig, thank you
so very much.
He's a good guy.
That's amazing.
A lot of people judge him.
I think he's a good guy.
No, he's been on the show.
Craig's a great guy.
And he works with kids.
and he makes movies.
He teaches them how to make movies at the Boys and Girls Club.
Oh,
that's awesome.
Craig, we should talk.
Yeah, Craig.
We do stuff with the Boys and Girls
Club too.
So I would love to collaborate and do something
and
afford some opportunities to more children.
I think we just, we did something pretty special here tonight.
You
really did.
So Craig, thank you.
It's a great space.
We're trying to expand.
We have 10 exhibits.
We have some more
coming.
Hi, sorry.
We have John Minow.
I walk by John Minow.
Hold on, I have to take a picture of John Minow.
Get him.
I'm trying to get my camera up.
I know John's gonna leave.
I'll
film
when he does that.
Can you duck
Heather?
Sorry, hold on.
Live radio, baby.
Wow,
I have not seen John for a while.
That was nice.
And now people say, have you seen John Maynall lately?
And I'll say, yeah, I've seen him.
Yeah, he just did a
walk by.
He just did a walk by.
I
want to get a photo walking by, too.
Can
I do that?
Yeah, we're going to do it absolutely.
Okay, awesome.
That's so fun.
I love
that.
If you haven't checked out your socials yet, do that, because that's really fun with these walkbys.
Oh, no, I have.
Absolutely.
I'm sort of the...
I know.
No, I'm saying, if someone listening has not seen
this on the socials... Oh, you were telling me to check
out the...
I thought Heather thought I was that detached from my own... I know it's Conrad.
We all know
that it's... No.
Okay.
All right.
Can we dig right?
All right.
And Jim Denney says on social media, he's watching on Facebook.
He says, found you.
Yes.
Jim probably encountered IDFS, which is also great, but we're glad to have you here tonight, Jim.
So thank you for the text.
So all right, can you tell us about this really cool thing?
We've got about a minute and a half before we have to do the news and then we'll do your John Candy quiz.
But I mean, what do you want to start?
The Santa breakfast you said is almost sold out.
What about John Kelly and the Fusion Express?
John Kelly, who is a local
icon with music will play a concert for us as a fundraiser at Gather on Broadway in November.
And you can look on our socials for all of the information for that.
And again, an adults evening where we just come and have music and
we
actually have Santa Claus for adults.
And Santa offers this time to actually have one-on-one recordings that if you need something for your child, that he will take that time to let them know if he's received their list and how they're doing, if they're good or bad or...
Nobody's
bad, but
yeah, so that's kind of a fun opportunity for that And then also we have the breakfast with Santa coming up where that's for families at Mackinac's and it's all of the things under one roof So we have a snow queen there.
We have Santa there.
We have elves there.
You can make gingerbread.
You can have hot chocolate
Wow,
you can
Flip pancakes, you can eat pancakes.
So you, all of the
things.
Flipping pancakes.
How's that for a segue?
That is a great sound.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to do intermission and then we will be back for act two.
Intermission, I like that.
Also known as the Civic Media has a crack news team and they are outstanding, but it's intermission for me because I go use the facilities, right?
Just gone.
Okay, let's tell me to wrap it up with this tattoo hand.
I know he means business
in two and two
We're coming back and Heather is gonna take our John a candy quiz.
It's nightlight with peach wapa on the civic media radio
network
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Peach Waba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who doesn't believe in sex after marriage, Peach Waba.
Damn right.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Nightlight.
I am Pete Schwabba, kicking off Act 2 here on a gorgeous Wednesday night coming to you live from downtown Green Bay.
Heather Heil is my guest.
She is in studio.
She is the business director of affairs.
And where's a ton of hats?
She's the business development director.
But you do everything over there.
So we are going to give Heather a quiz about John Candy in just a moment after a brief recap here.
Speaking of John Candy, our question of the night.
is what is your favorite John Candy movie?
There is a new documentary out about John Candy called I Like Me that Heather told me about about a week or two ago and I'm anxious to see it.
It is now out for streaming.
You can watch it now and I didn't even know that.
So thank you for
that's
what I'm gonna do when I get home.
Dan, get it ready.
You said you cried in the trailer though.
I was
bawling in the trailer just because again he was such a happy amazing human who was so sad inside and I just
Honestly, if you are someone out there who has some sadness, just talk to somebody.
Just say hey, yeah.
Like everybody kind of has some of that, you know?
How do you, you know, everybody, I assume hopefully everybody wants to help other people.
You just
got to check in and just,
you
know, we got to just normalize checking in with our people.
Exactly.
Very well said.
And Conrad, what else did we cover?
What do I need to go over?
Oh, Ethan Ogleby will be here
at
735.
Very exciting.
I love.
He wrote the threesome.
And when he was on the show in April before he had a screening at the Wisconsin Film Festival at the Barrymore Theater, which was packed.
That's where I saw it with a crowd.
It was great to laugh with everybody.
But he told me about a twist and I.
I didn't see it coming.
Even though I knew
it was coming, I still didn't get
it.
And I'm like, oh my God, how did I not get this?
So
I'm not gonna do a spoiler, but Ethan will be here.
And this is so cool because he wrote this film, got it made, got it into festivals and it did so well.
It's in theaters now.
And that doesn't happen very often.
So I'm excited for his success.
We will talk to Ethan at 735.
Question of the night, we're good.
And we are gonna get back to our guest, Heather Heil here after I read.
Yeah,
I like that.
I like that.
You're athletic.
I'm quite the athlete.
Steve from Florida says, I gotta say Pete and Conrad, every movie or skit that John Candy starred in or was part of it.
or was part of is my favorite.
The make you cry or laugh, a true natural talent that died way too young.
And I feel like people forget that he had so many cameos, so
he
might not have like been the star of a movie, but if you think to like, he was in Blues Brothers.
Do you remember this?
Oh my God, I have a question about that.
When
he was the cop, oh,
you do?
Okay, yeah.
Well,
okay, sorry.
I could switch it though.
I could switch the question because, but yeah, he was great in that.
He's great in...
Well, I don't want to.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we'll like get into our
quiz and yeah.
He is fantastic.
Lee from DePierre says, top three, no order.
Cool running.
Yes.
Jamaica Mon.
Favorite though.
Interestingly.
I like that.
That
was a beautiful movie.
Yeah.
It was good.
Uncle Buck.
Yep.
which is probably gonna be a runaway winter tonight.
I feel like it's great.
How do you not love Uncle Buck?
And Summer Rental.
And then my pal Boris Hamilton on social media also said Summer Rental.
And that's the one where John Candy laid out in the sun and had his arms a certain way and got this funky sunburn.
Oh, okay.
You know what?
I haven't
seen Summer Rental.
It's funny.
I mean, it's a little bit...
It's not one of his better ones, I don't think, but it's like one of the, it's along the lines of great outdoors, vacation movie.
Right, great
outdoors, planes, trains, automobiles.
Absolutely.
Home
alone with our national treasure, Katherine O'Hare.
Anytime I can talk about her, I will, I love her.
Did you see?
So much.
Orange County, the movie, it was a Mike White.
Yes.
I think it was the movie that put him on the map.
Was it the one with the book where it was, he found the book on the beach and he goes through the summer?
Is
that the movie?
No, it's about a kid who's trying to get into a college.
Yes, he
finds the book.
He
finds the book on the beach and that like starts his journey to like, does he go to college and yeah.
Colin Hanks
is the kid.
Yes, yes.
Oh wow.
Well, Catherine Hera in that is so funny.
She's drunk through the whole movie
and
nobody does a better drunk than Catherine Hera.
Agreed.
In Waiting for Guffman, the scene at the dinner table where the guy's talking about having the penis reduction.
I haven't seen this movie.
Oh my.
Okay, I'm gonna have to, because honestly, she is my favorite.
That scene is maybe the funniest she's ever been.
Yeah, okay.
And it's with Fred Willard who's...
who's brilliant.
And anyway, you got to check it out.
That's my homework.
We're about to do this quiz, but I know you have something you wanted to give me homework.
I
do.
You
have another piece of homework.
So
on HBO right now, there's a little show called Somebody Somewhere.
There are three seasons, very bingeable.
And it has Bridget Everett in it, who is a comedian.
And she does like a cabaret show in New York and like Sarah Jessica Parker and like big names love to go and see her.
So she just had the show.
It's a
little vulgar you're gonna want to do it after the kids go to bed if you're gonna watch a show but it's a authentic show with two no-name actors about friendship and family and just figuring life out together and it's so glorious and again they say some dirty words all the time but they're in context so it's not just saying the dirty words but yeah and I actually I loved it so much I'm Jeff Hiller who is in it wrote a book called Actress of a Certain Age that I just read because I and I just fell in love with him even more
On the stream there it is folks actress of a certain age and that is the source material for say the show
for Somebody somewhere again.
You'll watch the first episode and be like what am I watching?
It's very b-roll Stay with it Stay with it.
That's
risky when you when you
take a chance like that because people don't stay with
us.
I know.
And I was like, what am I watching?
But I'm like, I
love this.
And I was laughing and crying and just all of the good emotions things.
I'm sorry to cut you
off.
No, no, I cut you off.
I was just saying, I'm OK with the dirty words, even if they aren't in context.
I love a good dirty word.
Of course you would be.
Conrad swears all the time.
Do your parents know how much you swear?
Yeah, they're the ones who taught me.
You're talking about how
you're dead.
No,
all my stars.
No, they don't.
You might be stressing them out with your potty mouth or
kidding.
Yeah.
Craig Anthony Kinnit on the stream says, John Candy.
He is absolutely wonderful in planes, trains, and automobiles.
But one of my favorite roles is much smaller.
I love him on the park as the park official in vacation.
Yeah.
Well, welcome to Wally World, kids.
Moose out front should have told you.
Sorry, we're closed.
All right, on that note, I think we got to get to this quiz with our guest, Heather Heil, from the Green Bay Children's Museum.
She is always so much fun when she's here.
She alerted me to this John Candy documentary, I Like Me, which I haven't seen yet, but I'm...
I haven't seen it either,
but I've seen the
trailer and was all in.
So I'm going to watch it
tonight when I get home.
And you cried during a trailer.
Drilling the trailer, because it just was so beautiful.
I mean, Steve Martin up here talking about you in such a brilliant way.
I mean,
it's unbelievable.
What a great guy.
He's a very sympathetic guy, empathetic guy, whatever you want to say, looked out for his cast members.
I love the guy.
So all right, Conrad, I think
we got to start this quiz.
Yeah.
So it's just naming the movie, right?
Did I send you the
quiz?
Where's
the quiz?
I
think
it's in my pile here.
No, you can't have the
answers.
Are you gonna play me a clip and I have to guess
them?
Give me one sec.
Okay.
Conrad is printing out.
How about
I just give you...
Conrad is a great producer, but he's not perfect.
He forgot to print out the quiz, but that gives us more of a chance to talk.
I know, we can
talk about more
things.
I know.
I actually texted Pete just so you know and said, hey, did we break up?
Because I know true story buddy because I said I wanted to have you on the show You said I said how about this date and you said okay, and sometimes I just kind of cataloged that I'm like, oh great.
She's in and I didn't respond and he
didn't respond So then I was like, uh, hey did we break up
and then I told him to wear
something pretty you said.
Oh, yeah, I forgot
sorry No, no, no, I said we were on a break.
We were on a break
you
did all right, so we've got a great quiz here Conrad so you want to tell me which ones you have?
You know audio clips or because that'll be a little more fun.
I'm super competitive you
guys.
All right, okay Yeah, I have all the clips that's all the movies.
Okay, so we could just let's do that.
Yeah, we'll do it that way
Okay,
then me
just
from the
audio or from a question
well
I have all the audio if you wanna do the question first.
All right, do the question.
For
the streamers, I
have
his movies just pulled up so I can see.
So it's not cheating.
So I'm not cheating, it's
just that I can be like, oh yeah, it was that one.
I don't know if that's not cheating.
Is
it cheating?
No, it's okay.
There's no, you're not gonna be graded on this.
All right, here we go.
How old
was John Candy when he passed away in 1994?
I believe he was 50, 51, 50?
Is
that your final answer?
Final answer, 50.
43.
What?
He was born in 1950, died in 1994.
Okay, 1950, that's what I was thinking.
I was like, 50.
Isn't
that
crazy?
Yeah, 43, that's way too young.
I thought he died like in 2010.
I didn't realize he'd been gone for like 30 years.
Yeah.
That is insanity.
All right, you're all for one, but I like your chances moving
forward.
Okay, okay, I know.
I'm
not
doing good, guys.
What comedy classic do you have this one con you have a clip all right, okay?
Let's read
let me read this and then play the clip what comedy classic by Mel Brooks did John Candy play a mug named barf good con What was that
never mind that what was that?
Hi, how are you barf?
Not in here, mister.
This is a Mercedes.
No, that's my name.
Barf.
Barf?
What are you?
I'm a Mog.
Half man, half dog.
I'm my own best friend.
What do you want?
Your father hired Captain Lone Star me to save you.
Come on, we gotta hop up this ladder and get out of here.
Good.
Quick.
Hurry, darling.
All the
dog.
Mog.
I'm
a Mog.
What is space ball?
Whoa!
Oh, I like that.
I like the victory
sound.
Okay.
All right.
So you're a plus one one for two.
Did you know that right away before you heard?
Yeah, I did.
Nice.
One of you said Mogg.
I'm my own best friend.
Let's just, she's gonna get all these.
I don't know that I will.
Just say the question on this one.
I think it should be good.
What movie did John, can't he star in a body Jamaican bobsled team in 1993?
Cool runnings.
Yes.
Cause we just talked about that.
I know we talked about all these.
Lee
from the pier.
That was his, right?
Lee?
Yes.
Yeah, exactly.
He snuck in cool runnings there.
I know.
All right, I have to figure out how I'm going to read this one.
Okay.
In what 1980 film did Candy's character order an orange whip?
Orange whip, orange
whip,
orange whip.
That
would be the blues, brother.
Oh, it's
an orange whip.
Orange whip, orange whip.
Three orange whips.
Yes!
He wants to watch them play.
Come on, relax.
I haven't never seen these guys play.
It's beautiful.
Such a
great character.
Oh, okay.
So great.
All right.
All right, let's keep moving here.
We got, in what holiday classic was John Candy a member of the Kenosha Kickers polka band?
That would be Home Alone.
His name was Gus, and I want that jacket.
All right, fair enough.
Gus Polinsky?
There's a chance for bonus points here.
Okay.
For bonus points, how many copies did their biggest, the Kenosha Kickers, biggest hit sell?
And what was the name of the song?
That I do not know.
I know
F
minus.
I do.
We'd have to play it next segment.
OK, that's fine.
So
shoot.
No, let me tell you.
They sold 623 copies.
The song was Polka Polka Polka Polka Polka Polka
Polka
Polka.
Sorry, I let you down out there.
Well, you got the question
right.
That was just bonus.
Yeah.
And I love that he says, let me be heard of him.
Polka, polka,
polka.
And Catherine O'Hare is like, no.
It's just three words and it's just polka.
Oh, so gorgeous.
Thank you for the memories, John.
All right, do we have time for one more question if we don't use videocon?
Yeah.
Here's a good one.
OK.
Name a John Candy movie with Tom Hanks.
There were two of them.
Oh.
Oh.
I can, why don't we say, I can play a clip.
Yeah, give me a minute.
Okay, we'll do that.
I'll need a clip.
We're gonna do a quick break.
We're gonna come back and play a clip.
How long is the clip?
We gotta wait till after the break, huh?
Yes.
Okay, we will play the clip after the break.
We're gonna keep this on the up and up, and Heather Hyles doing very well.
So we're gonna come back up for a very short break and continue our John Candy quiz.
Thank you, thank you.
Where else are you gonna have a John Candy quiz on the radio with the nightlight with Peach
Wawa on the
Civic Media Radio Network?
Hey, this is Lance Barber, and you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwaballs.
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
Great to have you with me here at Nightlight tonight, folks.
Conrad Kreger working the board.
Heather Hile sitting to my left.
Stage left?
Yes.
Yeah.
taking our John Candy quiz.
Heather is the director of business development at the Green Bay Children's Museum.
They have some really outstanding events coming up, including a Beyond the Forest, Beyond the Enchanted Forest.
Yep, adult fundraiser coming up on October 3rd.
We have some stuff for the kids.
We have some Halloween parties.
We have breakfast with Santa.
We have
Worldwide Day of Play, which is in conjunction with Nickelodeon.
So just some really big fun things happening.
And the lobby's gonna look like an enchanted forest.
It will.
I've never been in an enchanted forest.
Oh, you will.
I've never been enchanted, and I've rarely been to a forest.
Yes.
So this sounds like the event for me.
I got you.
John Kelly and the Fusion Express Orchestra, December 4th.
And Breakfast with Santa, December 3rd.
Get your tickets fast.
They are going quickly.
So right now, though,
We own you, and you are owning this John Candy quiz.
And we have, before we went to the break, I read the question, and you didn't think you knew Conrad said I have a clip.
The question was, name a movie John Candy starred in with Tom Hanks.
There are two of them, and Conrad is gonna play one of those books
now.
Okay.
What's with her?
Oh, she had a little accident over the weekend.
Got hit in the head by some lightning.
It's not funny, Freddie.
It's not funny.
I'm sorry.
That's not funny.
Besides, she's okay.
She can still do certain things around the office.
Like what?
Jumpstart a car?
That laugh?
Jumpstart
a car.
Any guesses?
I don't remember that, but I feel like it was Darryl Hannah in this movie.
Yes.
Is this Splash?
Follow your instincts, yes.
Really?
Correct kind of?
Yeah.
I know Tom Hanks was in there, but I don't, I'm gonna have to re-watch that and know that.
What was the other one?
Volunteers.
Oh, I've never seen that movie either.
I don't think I've ever, or if I did it was on cable.
Volunteers.
Yeah.
All right, moving on, another question here.
In what movie was John Candy shot with a BB gun by Chevy
Chase?
That wasn't Wally World.
Yeah, was it Wally World?
It was a vacation.
Yes.
Yeah.
Sorry, it's closed.
Remember he says you couldn't even break the skin with that clock.
It could break the skin because of a very bad
infection.
I went to home alone and I was like, no, he didn't get shot, John.
Joe Pesci
got shot.
Oh, right.
What?
All right, Khan, you got a clip for this next one?
Yeah, I do.
All right, one of my favorite movies.
In what film did John Candy play the character Dewey Oxburger?
Oh, you got
the clip?
I
know what it is before the clip.
This is a genius clip.
Aggression training courses, you know, these aggressive training courses like asked, those type of things.
Anyway, it cost 400 bucks.
400 bucks to join this thing while I... I didn't have the money.
And I thought to myself, join the army.
It's free.
So I figured, while I'm here, I'll lose a few pounds.
And you got what, a six to eight week training program here?
A real tough one, which is perfect for me.
I'm going to walk out of here, a lean, mean fighting machine.
Great
thinking, Ox.
Great thinking, Ox.
Such a classic.
It would be straight.
Yes.
Yeah.
That is awesome.
My favorite line of the movie, though, was Harold Ramis' line.
He's always been kind of a pacifist.
but I just want you guys to know, if we ever see serious combat, I'm gonna be right there behind you
guys.
Yeah, you will be.
All right, we are zipping through here.
We got time probably for a couple more here.
In this classic movie, John Candy is trying to help Steve Martin's character get home for thanks.
Plains, trains, and automobile.
Boom, all right.
Great
movie.
One of my, it's in my top five.
Yeah, it's like, do you watch
it at Christmas every year?
Yeah, same.
I try to do it Thanksgiving, but at some point.
It's just, it's a perfect movie.
Funny, heartwarming, but not cheesy, great music, beautiful scenery, it's just amazing.
All right, in this summer classic that will make every Wisconsinite think of Up North, John Candy Stars, opposite Dan Ackroyd.
What is the great outdoors?
Yes, oh man, look at all these plus ones.
I
know.
It's got a lot of plus ones there folks, we are
winning.
Little Charlie
Sheen.
She's crushing it.
All right, we're doing great.
We got three more questions.
In this John Candy classic, he made huge pancakes.
Con.
This is where you separate the men and the boys.
Yeah, you do.
There
you go.
Shit.
I got you now.
You should see that toast.
I couldn't even get us through the door.
I
feel like that was improv.
Like, he totally improved
that.
Oh, maybe.
I feel like that was just something he said.
My buddy Mike Schmidt's favorite line in our pal J.B.
Thompson, the guy behind the guy, Conn.
Behind the
guy.
Behind the guy.
He said, Uncle Buck, you should see the French toast.
Yep.
Very well done.
All right.
We've got two more.
I think we can get them both in here if we hurry.
Name two other cast members that share the stage with John Candy at Second City in
Toronto.
Oh, I'm not going to get Dan Aykroyd.
And
no.
We mentioned the woman you just mentioned before.
Catherine O'Hara.
Yes.
And
we'll count that one.
Eugene Levy, Martin Short, Andrea Martin.
Oh, yeah, I mean, obviously.
Finally, for Heather Howe, what is your favorite John Candy movie?
Oh, just one?
Probably Home Alone.
Home
Alone.
I know, again,
Catherine O'Hare.
I love it.
You crushed this.
I think you only missed one.
Outstanding work.
Up top.
Thank you for humoring me tonight and talking about the John Candy documentary
that I haven't watched.
You motivate us to make new quizzes.
Get it done.
Watch
the things.
Heather Heil, ladies and gentlemen.
She is headed back to the museum right now, because that's how much you work.
I am.
I gotta go work.
We'll do it again.
I hope you'll come back.
Always.
This is always fun.
Yes, thank you, Pete.
Coming up next, after the news.
Ethan Ogilby, the writer of the hit new movie, The Threesome.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
This is Nightlight with Beachwaba.
Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night.
Folks coming to you live statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay and places beyond over the app and stream.
Heather Heil just took our John Candy quiz.
Check out the new John Candy documentary.
I like me.
I have not seen it yet, but boy, that was fun.
And what a, what better Hollywood person could you take a quiz about?
Very exciting stuff.
All right.
We're gonna turn from John Candy to We're still gonna delve into comedy here because my next guest is the writer of the hit new film the threesome This is a film that started as an independent film made the festival rounds and crushed it at festivals and then the ultimate happened
It got a wide theater release, which is almost unheard of, but very exciting.
And I'm very excited to have the author or the scribe, as they say in Hollywood, of the threesome, Mr. Ethan Ogilby.
Hey, buddy.
Hi, how are you?
Doing very well.
It's great to
have you back.
I will see you back for a second time.
Sorry, what's that, Ethan?
I said it's such an honor to be back for a second time.
Oh, well, the honor is all ours.
Thank you so much.
This is exciting.
And I could not have wished for better things from you because you had this great screening coming up at the Barrymore in Madison in April.
I saw it with a packed house.
Just love the movie.
And here you are months later, and your movie is in wide release in theaters.
How does that feel?
How does it feel?
great it feels uh anytime i can take a step back and just look at the whole journey get some good perspective on it it really is satisfying in a very deep way like this is a first that i started working on 10 years ago after a full decade i can actually just see it in the theater with my friends at you know an amc is a real treat so i'm very grateful
about how it came out, about the journey the film has been on, and yeah, it's been a very fun experience.
That's so great.
Hey, I think we're having a little technical issue.
Should we call him, Con?
Can we give you a call on the phone, Ethan, or?
Oh, something just happened there.
Maybe the microphone was covered up or something?
Oh, that's possible.
Is that any
better?
What do you think, Con?
Yeah, if you could just send me your number in the streamer chat, then I could give you a call right away.
Yeah, maybe we'll just play it safe here.
You can stay on the stream though, Ethan, and we can still see each other.
But if you don't mind, we'll just give you a call.
So Ethan was just basically saying it was the dream of a lifetime.
And now he can go see a movie that took him 10 years from the time he sat down to write it to get it made.
And now it's in theaters.
And that's got to be very exciting, folks.
If you haven't seen it yet or...
If you're unaware of it, check your local listings around theaters.
I know it was playing in Green Bay.
I'm sure it's in Milwaukee and Madison.
It's called the threesome and it's a great, it's funny, thoughtful characters and a twist you will not see coming, even though I'm telling you there's a twist.
So we will get Ethan on the phone and continue our interview with Ethan.
Tomorrow night on the show, folks, we will make the popcorn pick of the week.
It's Thursday and...
We will also have a guitarist for the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
Al Patrelli will be here tomorrow night at 7.35.
So that's another fun night here at Nightlight, and plenty of chances for you to weigh in.
Conrad will not be here.
He will be at the Packer game, but we will push on with our pal Amanda Nimmer, who is always fun to work with as well.
Okay, we have Ethan now, I believe, on the phone.
Are you there, buddy?
Okay, I'm here.
I'm back.
Oh, that sounds great.
Okay.
Well, it's great to have you.
I was just kind of summarizing what you said because I heard it pretty clear just that it took 10 years.
Is that true?
You know, I guess I haven't gotten to tell the full story much, but I did finish a draft about 10 years ago and it actually was with another producer for a time and we just couldn't get it financed.
He was trying to do it for like a million dollars.
I think we got about two thirds of the way there and just couldn't take it home.
And then I just sort of sat on it for a while.
It wasn't like I've been actively working on it the full 10 years.
But when my partner and I, my wife and I wrote a pilot, that got us wrapped at CAA with a TV agent.
And then I asked my TV agents, like, hey, is there anybody on the film side that we could give this script to?
It's been sitting on a shelf.
And then when my film agent Anna Jinx got it, she hooked it up with the Starthorne producers, Tim and Trevor White.
And that's when things really got going.
And then it was only five years after that, but the movie made it to theaters.
Isn't that crazy how long and that's the one thing about like with feature films they just take they take long to write they take long to rewrite and then I remember I co-wrote a film called a guy thing and I remember the first day the producer said we're gonna fast-track this I'm like great I need the money and he goes we're thinking five years so whatever they ruined it anyway but it doesn't matter but this film is just
you told me there was a twist in it when you were here last time and you didn't want to give it away and I didn't want you to and I was sitting there with all these people in this theater and I still didn't see it coming so well done on that front as well but talk a little bit about how was it when you set out to write it what I love about your characters
The characters come from different backgrounds, they have different opinions on various things, but they're also thoughtful.
Was it like that the minute you finished the script or did you get notes or is that just how you write?
I would like to say that that quality of it has been there since the very beginning, that there was never a version where anybody has ill intentions or is actively trying to harm anybody else.
There's no scheming or anything
that
everybody's
No one's trying to hurt anybody else.
And yet they're constantly hurting each other because they've just entered into this situation that is so complicated and the stakes are so high and everything's so loaded and the emotions are so strong.
So, you know, it's been really interesting as people start to watch the film that people have, you know, the three major characters.
Sometimes people, you know, all three can be different people's favorites.
All three can be people's least favorites.
Like sometimes, you know, the
the lead gal in particular.
Some people like, we ended up rooting against her.
She takes it all too far.
I love her personally, but yeah.
Yes, I do.
I would like to say anything that's gotten better as different producers have weighed in.
And then as our director, Chad Hartigan got his hands in the material, but I'd like to think that that's always been a goal of the project is that it's a three-hander where everybody's just doing their best and yet things keep going south.
To me, personally, I think that's the mark of a really solid film is when you maybe don't like someone, but you also still sympathize with them in some way, or you can relate to what they're doing.
And all these characters, you know, to me, it's like kind of an edgy film, even though you're rooting for everybody.
Like you've really accomplished something in my mind here that is really admirable because it's just a feel good film, but there are serious stakes involved in the film.
Yeah, that's what we were going for.
I will say, I remember running into you after the screening in Wisconsin, and you were so fired up about the twist, and that was such a delight to see you.
I mean, the whole experience was great.
I'm like a Wisconsin Film Festival fan forever now.
I couldn't believe how many people they turned out for these screenings, like ours in particular.
It was almost as big as our South by Southwest premiere.
and that was just such a blast.
I hope there's another film I can come back with because it is such a great time.
I'm glad the crowd for the most part responded really well to it.
It's a film that I love watching with crowds, not just because of the laughs, but because of the two twists that nobody sees coming.
I love hearing the gasps and the murmurs, the ripples that go through the crowd as people can't believe what just happened.
My guest is Ethan Ogilby.
He is the writer of The Threesome, which you can catch in theaters right now.
It is a very critically acclaimed film and had a great festival run.
And now it is out there.
So check it out, folks.
Ethan is joining me over the stream and over the phone tonight.
We have a few more minutes with him.
How do you write, Ethan?
Do you write every day or do you write when the mood catches you?
Do you have a place you go and your house to write?
What is your process like?
Well, it's changed a lot since I had kids and it is a funny sort of life imitates art that the movie is about a young man who essentially ends up with twins and then my partner and I had twins They just turned they just turned four So it has been a lot harder of late to find that that perfect Undisturbed the mood is striking me the candles are lit kind of moment
But I just sort of have to force myself to write anywhere, anytime, whenever there's a spare half hour or hour or after everybody's gone to bed and I'm tired, but I'm trying to push through it.
But I used to be much more precious about it when I was younger, but now I really try and treat it more like a job than I just have to get to work whenever I can.
And I think it also helps that the way I write is very fluid that I
We'll write a scene knowing that it's not going to stay that way.
It's not perfect.
Most of the lines are going to change.
And then I sort of go over it again and again and again, rewriting it until eventually it's formed into something that I can live with.
But I really need to see it in front of me to get a sense of how well it's working.
And that's the same thing with the whole story, that I wish I was the kind of person that I write it all on note cards and then the note cards.
are the structure and they don't change, and I can envision the whole thing before I even write it, but I'm just not like that, but I really have to be writing it over and over again to hopefully get in there and get a sense of how things are flowing and how things are playing.
How do you deal with writer's block?
I love talking to writers, but there's different ways.
Do you plow through?
Do you just accept the laziness and hope to be inspired?
Do you look for amuse?
What is your process in dealing with writer's block?
Um, it's a tough one.
And I think I do get stuck.
You know, this, this movie is a good example of, and I'm not sure if this necessarily writer's block, but where you're stuck on something, you just quite can't nail it.
And the beginning of this movie was actually something that's always been tough.
It's changed a lot through different, you know, the first couple of scenes have been so many different things and changed so many different times.
And,
I don't know, I wish I had some great advice, but like sometimes going on a walk honestly helps just get out getting away from the laptop.
I do have a mind that tends to always kind of be thinking about what I'm writing.
So even if I'm making dinner or sometimes watching something else or obviously in the shower, like I do feel like my in the back of my mind, I'm sort of tinkering with it.
So sometimes that helps just to
You know not be beating my head against the wall like I have to figure this out right now that I try and let go a little more and hopefully the unconscious mind has a little work for me But I don't know if I if I knew how to how to beat that I'd probably be a much more successful
writer.
I think you're doing okay Do you have a?
Have you found it like your agency with the success of the threesome?
Do you do the people around you want you to write more in this genre?
Are they saying this is your thing now?
People are going to look for the next thing from you.
It's got to be in this genre.
And how do you respond to that?
Are you just like, I'm right in whatever I want to write.
The follow up that I'm almost done with another romantic comedy that I think is a little different than this.
It's a little more, I think it's a little more commercial, maybe a little more of a studio bent.
But honestly, in watching the threesome so many times and getting to see how people respond to it, I'm really also trying not to lose.
the voice of the threesome that I do want to have, like, you know, that's the thing I would like to believe is that the threesome does have a distinct voice in the writing.
And I want to make sure that even if that's in a slightly more commercial studio vehicle, and again, like no one's, no studios have bought this yet.
This is all, I'm writing this all on spec.
But I'm hoping that even in a format that's a little more commercial, that my voice remains intact and I'm not like trying to do something completely new.
Beyond that, I don't know.
I want to write a lot of different things.
I have a lot of different interests.
And if you watch the three sim, you won't be surprised to know that I also like drama.
I like when things get very dramatic.
The characters in this movie get very sad at times because things are very hard for them.
And I do want to explore a bunch of different genres.
But I imagine for the near future, I'll probably
end up staying roughly in the comedy, if not even like romantic comedy space, but...
Let's pick up
right there.
We have to do a very short break and we'll have a couple more minutes with Ethan when we come back on Night Light.
Welcome back.
This is Night Light.
I am Pete Schwama.
Great to have you with me.
We are winding down this show.
We've got a couple more minutes with our guest, Ethan Ogilby.
He is the writer of the great romantic comedy, The Threesome, which you can catch in theaters right now.
Ethan.
What was the biggest challenge in getting this all the way from start to the theaters and what was the most rewarding part of the process?
Boy, I guess the... I mean, the biggest challenge, certainly, once we... I mean, it took us a while to get the cast in place.
that we kept sort of having this thing of like, we would get one of the roles in place and then, and it was happening over a long period of time that it was during COVID and then there were the strikes, but we would get like half the cast in place and be almost there and then that person would drop out and then we get, you know, like, I felt like we were almost running out of people.
to go out to for a second there.
But I feel like we found our leads at like exactly the right times to come in and save the movie.
And, you know, I'm so I'm, I just couldn't be more happy with the people we got.
You know, actually there's like an adage about like the film, you know, I'm going to get it wrong.
But like something about getting, you end up with the right people, the people you deserve, something like that.
So I'm so happy that the like circuitous journey that it took to cast the film that we ended up with who we did.
But
That's so much of what the financing, from my experience, it's so much of what getting a film finances about is having cast with enough juice to get you a few million bucks to sell a few foreign territories before you shoot that kind of thing.
So that was harrowing at times.
There were a few moments when I was like, oh no, it's not going to happen.
And I think the most rewarding part, I think definitely the, I have to say that the highlight was
the very first screening at South by Southwest because I think that was the time when no one knew what was going to happen.
It was
all sort
of up in the air of, I hadn't even seen the final cut.
I didn't know how people were going to respond to it.
I didn't know what the, you know, audience was going to be like, what the critical response was going to be.
And pretty early on, I was surprised how much people were laughing and people
were
missing lines because they were still laughing at the joke before that.
That was just a really, it was a really thrilling, thrilling day.
So even though at an amazing time at Wisconsin, or our premiere last week was really fun, it's more of a known quantity at that point.
And you've sort of settled into what the fate of the film is going to be, whereas on our first screening at South by Southwest, I just sort of had no idea which way it was going to go.
it was it was such a pleasant surprise and like at our party after where I feel like everyone was just so giddy because everyone was so excited that it went this well and we weren't sure what was going to happen because you never know what's going to happen when you take something out into the world for the first time so you know maybe the director who'd done more test screenings and really like
sunk his teeth into it more was much more confident going in but like I didn't know it was gonna happen and it was just it was a great day it was it was really something all and because it was my first film like I feel like it's gonna be tough to kind of ever top that just because the stakes and the uncertainty and then it going so well was
That was that was quite a day pretty unforgettable
very well said and a very thoughtful answer which does not surprise me after seeing your work So that's great.
We have about a minute left.
I just want to ask you what have you seen like?
What have you seen in the theaters that got you excited in the last few weeks or over the summer?
You know what movie I would love to plug and it's the only reason I
heard about it was because it was at the Annapolis Film Festival with us and it played at Sundance first but The Ballad of Wallace Island
is
an independent film and Sony Pictures Classics released it and my wife and I were looking for a movie and it was playing in a theater near us it was a movie we didn't know anything about so I was like 97% on Rotten Tomatoes and I just thought it was like the funniest most charming
film I'd seen in quite a while.
And I watched it again since then.
I don't have time to watch as many movies as I like.
So the fact that it got a second viewing before the years even up, like I just thought it was, was fantastic.
And I was charmed from moment one to the very end.
And, you know, I felt the camaraderie of another independent film.
This one,
I think
it did a little better than ours, but it was just a, it was such a great film.
And I've been recommending it to anyone who'll listen.
Well, Ethan, thanks for sticking with us through the tech issues.
Good luck with the new spec and enjoy this ride.
It's so great and I'm thrilled for you and it's great catching up on the show.
Hope to have you back sometime talking about your next film.
Thank you for
having me back and thank you for being a champion for the film and saying such nice things about it.
I had to laugh when you called it a hit film because I don't think we can quite go that far, but I really do appreciate the support.
You got it.
Anytime, buddy.
Have a great night and right like the wind.
You got it.
All right, Ethan Ogleby.
And look, it is a hit.
I mean, you start with a script, it becomes a festival, darling, and then it gets into theaters.
I mean, it's not maybe gonna make what Titanic made, but that's a huge victory and great stuff for a guy who seems like a really good guy and a very talented writer, Ethan Ogleby.
Check out the threesome.
You gonna see it, Con?
You said you thought you knew what the twist was, so don't say it.
I
think I know it.
I haven't seen it yet.
I want to go see it.
It's in some theaters in Green Bay right now, so I might check it out tomorrow because I got some time before the game.
Right.
You get to switch gears a little bit.
Get yourself to see a nice romantic comedy before you watch those meatheads bang out there.
Exactly.
Perfect
day right there.
What's funny is, I did not know.
I saw with Greg Leanna, my partner, who was there for his Meet the Parents thing.
They showed his film and I hosted the Q&A.
Greg and I were watching the movie and I'm going, what's the twist?
And he's like, I don't know.
And when it happens, you go, how did I not see that coming?
But you still don't.
So anyway.
All right, tomorrow night, folks, join us.
It's the popcorn pick of the week at 6.35.
And then Al Petrelli from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra will be here to talk about their upcoming shows.
He's the band's guitarist and a really fun interview.
And we will be back tomorrow night to do this all again.
Oh, one more comment about John Candy movies.
Dave watching on X says stripes.
You can't they're all good, right?
But I think I'll go back
I think I'll go back Uncle Buck one
it beat planes trains and automobiles I think so that's not right, but it's on candy.
I'm not gonna argue all right folks We're coming back tomorrow.
Hope you have a great night on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm peach wabba saying good night, Wisconsin
