Breath Mints, Music Miles, and Photography Files (Hour 1)

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who appreciates a nice hot meal at a fair price.

Pete Chwaba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Hey, hey, Wisconsin.

Great to have you.

We are kicking off this Tuesday night show with this public service announcement.

Conrad and I have found a way to coexist, even though the Cubs and the Brewers... I don't know if I'd say they're neck and neck.

What are the Brewers up?

Three games now?

Three games, yep.

And gonna be four tonight.

And I might have been wrong.

They... I said I don't think they're gonna be able to keep this pace.

And they probably won't be, but if they get ahead enough...

They can still kind of slide a little bit and still have.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're good.

Well, the sweep against the Nationals was big.

Yeah, that was huge.

And now they won against the Braves last night.

So I hope them for another one tonight.

Do they play the Cubs again?

I

think they do.

Yeah, they do.

They do.

I'm pretty sure they do.

Well,

probably in Chicago this time.

Really?

OK.

Yeah.

I had a great drive down here tonight.

I have to say, although I did see

You know what freaks me out a little bit is when, you know, we don't really get political on this show very often.

Once in a while, I, you know, I say something.

But I saw a sign in a window that said, F, this political candidate.

And it's a former president.

I'm like, I think the people that are willing to put the F word on their car about a, like, I may disagree with people.

I would never put that on my car.

No.

It kind of freaks me out a little bit.

It's kind of like they don't care.

They're completely loose cannons.

If you're willing to say that, like there's no, there's no civility, I guess.

I don't know.

You know, I just, I personally don't put anything on my car.

Right.

Not even a baby on board?

Not, not a baby on board.

Nothing like that.

Like, remember what I was saying the, what it was a person that said, driving, or a person who's learning to drive?

Oh, yeah, student driver student driver.

Thank you.

That was I don't know why I couldn't think of It's a student driver and it definitely was not a student driver because there was no one else in the car besides one person

Oh, they're just trying to do get all the benefits or

whatever.

They're like, all right We got to give them a break.

It's a student driver

driving in a handicap lane.

No, I

started honking at him

Really?

That's very unlike you Yeah, it was kind of weird it kind of threw I'm like wow that that says a lot like

And and you know people on both sides do it I would say it's more on one side But I have seen it on other sides and I just I don't know that I'd wear my outrage on my sleeve like that But that's just me.

Do you remember the the one that I showed you yesterday?

I don't know

the bumper sticker on the on the window

Yeah, what was it again

hot girls hit curbs?

I Wish I could have seen the wheels for the tire rash or the

That's

a great one.

When I was in a drive-through about two years ago, I saw one of those bumper stickers that said, how's my driving?

The 1800 Eat Blank.

And this car was...

beat to hell.

Oh, that's great.

Like you're driving sucks, obviously, or you bought this car with the last person's driving.

The owners sucked.

Very funny stuff.

Tom from New Berlin already chiming in love this.

He's in the 414.

He says Cubs and Brewers play five more games.

There we go.

All in

Chicago.

All in Chicago.

So we'll have some fun with this.

It's a little closer.

And Mike Clemens will be here on Friday.

We'll talk to Mike about some some Brewers and Cub stuff, but mostly Brewers as we are here in Wisconsin.

So you like their chances?

They're playing

pretty well.

It's World Series or bust, you

know?

You know, it would be fun to see especially after the you know, Sean and Kelly's documentary Sean Hansen Kelly calls documentary just a bit outside because that just came out in the spring, right?

Yeah.

Yeah before this year started.

So that would be kind of cool.

Yeah, no that you know, and I'm I'm looking forward to the Brewers and the playoffs Because you know, Wisconsin football

I learned today that they have a pretty tough schedule.

Do

they?

In October, they face Michigan, then it's off to Iowa, then it's to Ohio State, and then it's to Oregon.

I am so not excited.

Yeah, and we still have to face Alabama, too.

Oh, that's this year?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And so it's going to be a tough.

tough year for the Badgers, I think.

Well, it's a tough year for the Badgers.

We're going to have a great night here at Nightlight, folks, because we have two great guests.

We got a good, fun question we can have a good time with.

And we got a, what is this text that you have from Zomers?

It's about, it's about the cookie dough.

Now that this is from Aaron Zomers, occasional Nightlight producer and producer of the Todd Alba show.

He says, now that I've actually listened to it, I agree with you and Pete, expensive edible cookie dough.

It's very stupid.

It's very stupid.

There's this cookie dough place that opened up a few years ago back in Appleton on College Ave.

And it's like seven bucks for a couple little scoops of what tastes like diabetes.

It's offensive.

It's a cookie dough just enough.

It was a fun novelty like in the 80s and somehow it's in everything now.

You know, I was at the store yesterday and I was tempted to buy one of those.

containers and set it right where you're sitting at five.

Do we have an oven here?

We could make up some chocolate chip cookies.

We don't have a microwave.

We could be the Midwest Express airlines of radio.

When guests come into the studio, they'll smell chocolate chip cookies.

There we go.

Actually, that's a good idea for air freshener.

Yeah, that is.

And I'll get Tony Shalub on the show.

I understand you like chocolate chip cookies.

Great guests tonight.

Fun question.

Great to have you with us, folks.

This is Night Light on a Tuesday, a Tuesday edition of Night Light.

I say Tuesday has a feel.

Are you still, did you stick with Seinfeld?

No,

I, well, I just haven't, I was watching last night, I started watching the Spider-Man's again.

Really?

Yeah.

Cause I saw the little snippet that they

of Tom Holland and his new Get Up.

And it got me excited, so I started watching it.

All right,

that's good.

I stick with Seinfeld, though.

The season, I forgot, I told you season two kind of limps long, too, it doesn't, it gets right into it.

And George gets a massage from a man, and it's hilarious.

And all those season two episodes are great, so I think you should go back to

it.

And

what made me think of that was because Newman's Tuesday has no feel, and Kramer says, I feel Tuesday.

So, we have a great show tonight, folks.

Local Northeast Wisconsin musician and photographer and founder of Chicken and Egg Photography, Chris Rogowski will be here in studio.

We'll talk to Chris about his game and what he does.

He's a musician and takes pictures of bands.

He's been working on Myle of Music.

I'm excited to meet Chris and have him in the studio.

And then at 720 RPEL, Madison Film Critic, Rob Thomas joins the show to talk about what is still to come.

at the box office this summer.

It's been a great summer for the box office.

Way ahead of last year, about 15%, I think.

Not quite up to pre-COVID numbers, but we are on the upswing, and I think people are going back to the theater, and that's exciting, despite the fact that I was one of two people at Naked Gun yesterday here in Green Bay.

Despite all that, the box office seems to be coming back.

We'll talk with Rob about that, and he is also the CityCast Madison

newsletter editor, and they had some really cool stuff.

He did this thing about strip mall bars.

And he's like, why are they so cool?

And I'm curious to ask him about that because I typically prefer a corner tavern as opposed to a strip mall bar.

Not to say I haven't been in strip mall bars that I liked, but I like a standalone corner tavern, ideally.

You know, have you been to Bayshore?

The mall in Glendale?

Oh, yeah.

So they, when I used to work at the champs that's in the Bayshore there.

Okay.

And across, right in the middle, where they have a little like picnic kind of area, they had a bar in there, and it was so tempting every day to walk past it.

Not to have a couple

pops.

To go to my car, to go to the work, to go to work, and yeah, I was like, I was always tempted to, but yeah, I was like, you know, it's in the strip mall,

but

it always looks so nice because.

around it in some Tiki's, you know,

setups and

stuff like that.

So it was, it looked nice.

Once you get inside, a bar is a bar, but it's just, I do love the idea of walking to the corner, a brick building, stepping up two steps, you're in the bar, but, you know, hey, a good bar is a good bar.

We'll talk to Rob about that at 720.

And he saw this new movie, Sketch, I'm excited to talk to him about as well.

So two great guests.

And I think without further ado, we should get to our question of the night.

Let's talk

about

the question.

Okay, question.

All right,

it's National Fresh Breath Day.

So our question tonight is what is the best way to tell someone they have bad breath?

What is the best way to tell someone they have bad breath?

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We're here for you.

So I thought about this My buddy Todd Glass who I got to get on the show was on last comic standing and he said

his girlfriend one time told him, tell your neighbor he has bad, he has bad breath.

He goes, how am I supposed to do that?

I'm just going, hey, Alan, is your ass backed up?

And he goes, what do you think 50 tic-tacs taste like?

Like, I mean, there is no way, no one ever tells people they have bad breath.

But, and there's certain kinds of bad breath, it's that, you know, like really old people get that halitosis, where it can permeate the whole room.

And it's like, oh God, I'm gonna faint.

It's such bad breath.

And listen, I do intermittent fasting.

That can give you bad breath.

I'm not saying I never have bad breath.

My wife hasn't kissed me in 14 years.

I'm guessing that's a clue.

I

give or take, seven years.

I'm kidding, but you know, like garlic breath is considered to be terrible.

I don't mind garlic breath.

I love knowing someone just ate garlic because I love garlic.

Their breath doesn't really bother me ever.

Do you like, can

I

get a whiff?

What do you mean?

Can I, do I say that to people?

Oh, you just had garlic?

Can I get a whiff?

Yeah, do you mind if I lean in?

But I don't, and there was also COVID during COVID, you know, everybody had masks on.

So you didn't really smell people's breath.

But I know that during COVID, I didn't shower nearly as much as I usually do.

I was at home all the time.

I was like, you know, and I slacked off brushing my teeth.

I was a little depressed during COVID.

So, what's the longest you think you've ever gone without brushing your teeth?

Oh, I don't know.

During COVID, probably I let it go a little bit.

Days?

Weeks?

Probably days.

I don't think weeks.

Cause it was, I mean, when I was younger, probably a little longer.

Cause I

didn't care as much.

Okay.

But I would

say during COVID.

That doesn't count when you're a

kid.

During COVID, like, yeah.

All the hygiene stuff didn't really matter

to me.

You threw it out?

Exactly.

I just, I'm like, whatever.

My family I'm cramped in this house with these people all the time I almost want to smell bad to put them through this because they're driving me so they can go in the other room exactly so That's but that's our question folks And like I said onion breath on the other hand is pretty bad, but garlic breath doesn't bother me

It's it's kind of the same thing you did to me.

That's both.

I'm like alright.

You can go away from me

Yeah, it's national fresh breath day folks.

What is the best way to tell someone they have?

bad breath.

Would you?

Would you not?

Would you hint at it?

What would you do?

I stepped back a few times and someone comes up, kind of gets in your grill and it starts talking you and you just kind of do one of these where you move back a little bit, hoping they get the point.

You know, I do, I have just the desire to make them smell better.

So I like, you want some gum?

You offer them something?

I give them gum or breath mints.

And it's not like I just be like, Hey, you want one?

Not like your breath stinks, you take this.

Do you want one I'm offering?

And

usually

they're like, well, I won't say no to gum, I guess.

Yeah, but most of the time, they don't.

Sometimes people will make a joke and say, what are you trying to tell me something?

Well, yeah, you don't say that, but it's like, please take the gum.

But so there you go.

Let us know.

How would you do it?

Would you be subtle?

Would you tell them?

Would you just grin and bear it and.

sit there with your eyes tearing up.

That's our question of the night.

Lots of fun tonight, folks.

When we come back, I'm gonna tell you about a new show I'm watching that I am really into now.

It has won me over.

You may have already guessed it if you listen every night, but I'm gonna tell you anyway and let us know what your answer is to our question of the night.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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The state of summer also known as Wisconsin.

Chris Rogowski will be here at 635.

He is a Northeast Wisconsin based photographer and musician and the founder of a chicken or egg photography.

Let me make sure I got that.

Is a chicken and egg con?

I had this in my head all week and I'm here.

Let's figure it out.

Well, let me know.

But well, Chris will be here at 635.

I'm excited.

He's here in the studio.

He's a great guy.

We're going to have a great talk about music and photography.

He just did a whole bunch of stuff with Myle of Music.

And he's a local guy.

He's a Green Bay kid from the streets of Green Bay into the studio here at Night Light.

That'll be fun.

And our pal Rob Thomas, the Madison Bay's film critic and city cast at Madison Newsletter Editor, will be here at 7.20 to talk all things Madison and movies.

Lots of good stuff still coming out this summer.

Rob reviews them all on his sub-stack.

at Not That Rob Thomas.

So check that out as well.

Our question of the night is, it's National Fresh Breath Day.

What is the best way to tell someone they have bad breath?

And you can comment on any thought you have about bad breath.

Like, are you just the kind that's not gonna say anything?

Or would you say something?

I've told family members, like immediate family members, I will say you have terrible breath.

Because I want them to know, and I don't want them to go out in the world like that, you know?

You say it just like that?

It's kind of harsh.

I have.

We don't hold back in our feet.

We can

just be

like, hey, your breath, you know, you could use like a...

Go to the bathroom, brush your teeth a little bit.

Your breath has smelled better.

Let's just put it that way.

But let us know what your thoughts are.

855-752-4842.

Let's go to some of the social media posts.

Conrad Kreeter, look at this.

Yeah.

Just hand them a piece of gum or mint and don't say anything.

Like you...

Do you force feed it to them or do you like would you like kind of

sneak it to them?

They'll get the message when they're talking just try to toss it in their mouth and see if they

get it.

That'll

work.

Our pal Rich Talarico says say hello to them after they reply make the universal choking symbol bug out your eyes and go and go stiff and fall straight backwards like a plank.

I knew for some reason I knew Rich was going to have a response.

That

kind of feels like a Simpsons.

Yes, it does.

Yeah, very animated.

Our pal from here in Northeast Wisconsin, Amanda Nimmer, award-winning social media.

Amanda Nimmer says, forcefully shoving a tic-tac in their mouth.

All right, you can't do that, Amanda.

You know, depends with the person.

Well, I will say, if there's anybody that was going to do that, I could believe, I could see Amanda doing that.

Ezekiel Drew's Milwaukee filmmaker has been on the show before.

He says, slowly put a COVID mask over their face.

Yeah, that'll go over well.

I do that too, sometimes I'll just try to like, when I'm talking to them, I'll just sort of go like this, like you kind of close your nose off, but I always feel like they're gonna know then too.

You know, during COVID, you could definitely get a scent of how your breath smelled every day, just wearing that mask.

Yeah, it was like sort of self-correcting or sort of self-aware.

Yeah, you put it on, you're like, ooh, maybe I should.

Yeah,

no kidding.

Or smell the mask after like a couple days.

Oh, no.

That's terrible.

Throw it away.

Throw it away.

Yeah, exactly.

Going to the stream, Dave says, offer a mint or piece of gum.

Dave, that's the civilized way to do it.

And then he says, tell him straight up.

He'll tell him too.

I don't know if he means just his family like I do, or like probably a close friend, I would say that too.

I make a joke about it, you know?

Yeah.

But, you know, Todd Alba and I have become friends.

I would probably tell Todd, you have bad breath.

On air I wouldn't do that I wouldn't have I ever had bad breath and again You can be honest because I know I fast and that can give you pretty bad breath sometimes

You know, I didn't want to say anything Pete, but

yeah every

day

every day.

It's bad.

Okay good well in that case Because what do you do you go to the dentist?

I know they make special gum for people who have like just rancid breath.

Yeah.

Yeah, I Would say just have have some gum on you at all times

Maybe carry a breath mint or two

and the coffee too like I drink coffee and I'll tell you this When I do intermittent fasting and drink coffee.

Oh man, my breath.

It could probably be a weapon Oh, no, the great thing is my feet smell amazing all the time.

So that's kind of offsetting there Steve and Florida Conrad's dad checking in kind of early in the show good to hear from Steve as always He says if I'm talking to someone who has bad breath

I pull out my pouch of mints.

Your dad keeps his mints in a pouch and says, and first put one in my mouth and then ask the person if they would like one too.

Nine out of 10 times.

It works to get their breath back on track.

That's why he offers me so

many mints.

Fathers like father, like son.

God, take a man.

Yeah, that's the good.

That's probably the best way to do it.

But does it work right away?

Does a breath mint work that quickly?

I don't know.

I

mean, if you have those solid winter green ones.

Yeah, those are harsh.

Those will knock out your bad breath

or like big red you've heard a big red gum I don't know if they make it anymore.

It was cinnamon gum and it was really offensive It tasted terribly, but I feel like that would do it too with that breath

You know I so I found this new product on Instagram the other day and it's founded by Logan Paul Okay, and it's called breath death

Yeah Did he use it when he fought my case

and it's like a spray squirt in your mouth

Supposed to

it's give you good.

It gives you good breath.

Yeah, so it's supposed to

kill bad breath.

Okay,

that's why I call it breath death.

All right

Breath death.

I like it.

I feel like he needs a way to make more money, too So

they kind of took a page out of liquid deaths Playbook that was kill your thirst.

Oh, yeah,

they're kill your bad breath

Well, let us know folks, what are your thoughts?

What is the worst kind of breath to most people might say garlic?

I actually

Brett doesn't offend me.

I'm gonna hold off and telling me my show that I'm watching but I've just finished two seasons and it's really good Ozzy Osbourne had a heart attack.

Did you know that?

That's that was his cause of death.

Oh, no, I did not.

It's amazing like when a guy like that is a heart attack you go and I'm not trying to sound crass but the way he lived I'm amazed that a young guy's heart can handle what some of those rock and rollers Yeah, and they're 30s and 40s even

Such a finicky thing.

All right.

When we come back, folks, after the news, local artist and photographer Chris Rogowski will be here in studio for the first time.

That's exciting.

This is Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

This

is nightlight with peach wava that's something in my throat, but it's great to have you guys Pardon me.

It's great to have you guys with me.

This is this coffee Conrad.

It's the decaf.

I can smell your breath over here from

through the glass.

Can you really?

Yeah

You're just lucky.

Can you smell my feet?

They smell amazing.

And I don't, listen, I wouldn't have in studio guests if I was emanating these horrible smells.

That would be rude.

All right, folks, we have Rob Thomas is here in hour number two at 720.

He's a Madison Bay's film critic and the city cast of Madison newsletter editor.

We will talk all things Madison and movies with Rob, but right now I'm excited to interview someone who has not been on the show before.

He's a local guy right here from the streets of Green Bay, as I say, into the studio here at Nightlight.

He is a local photographer and musician, and he founded Chicken or the Egg Photography, and he joins me now in the studio.

Chris Rogowski, hey buddy.

Hey, how's it going?

Good to meet you.

Yeah, you too.

You got here okay, I assume.

I didn't know you lived as close as you do.

Yeah, I live across the river and I take my bike almost everywhere that I can.

Yeah.

Why not?

Is that a Schwinn varsity I saw you pull up

with?

No.

You got a good bike?

Yeah.

In fact, the bike that I bought, I'm just going to fluff my feathers out of way.

The bike that I bought is a reed.

brand REID and I ended up doing some photo work for them and they're based out of the UK and So I ended up shooting photos for him and now they're on on the internet Good thing look at

that.

That's fantastic.

Yeah, and he got a bike out of the deal Which is

kind of

did they give you the bike?

No, no, I bought the bike from actually from broken spoke go to broken spoke George

He's a good guy.

He'll set you up.

Seems like they'd throw in a bike if you did a good job

for them.

Yeah.

I thought about

it,

but we'll

see.

All right.

Would you tell people if they have bad breath or not, or would you just keep that to yourself?

You know, I was thinking about that when you were talking about that before, and there's a guy, no names mentioned, and he's got some of the worst breath imaginable.

And lovely guy, but man, breath mint.

You need it.

Is he married?

I don't even know, okay.

I'm glad, I

was

gonna ask you, or as initials KK, but that's like, took a shot at my breath before.

Getting it back, throwing it back at you.

Yeah, that is terrible, right?

And then you dread, like, when it's an all-the-time thing, you kind of dread, oh, god, I gotta go, and we're gonna be in that office again, and it's cramped quarters.

You know you're gonna see him, and you're just like, yeah.

Right, you gotta gear up, it's awful.

All right, so before we jump into everything you've got going on, and you're a very busy guy, tell us a little bit about you and your background.

My background

is in...

A lot of different things, but mainly it's in small business.

So I've never had a corporate job in my life Yeah, basically I've never had a corporate job except for like cops and that was stocking shelves.

Okay, it's not very corporate I worked for my dad for 20 years and I said one day I just said enough's enough and He's like good.

I've been waiting for you to say that.

Oh, no kidding.

It was a good thing.

Yeah

But he's been super supportive of me, and I've been doing the photography for 12 years now.

I've been full-time business owner for the last four.

So I've been doing exclusively photography, journalism, and that stuff for four years.

So,

all

right,

it sounded like I was reading an article about you earlier, an interview you did with a local publication, I think.

And you said it took you a while to get up.

the courage to quit your day job, which a lot of creative people do if they,

or

not even creative, they want to go into business by the, was that the day job you had working for your dad?

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, okay.

It was a good job.

Don't get me wrong.

It was just not, it was not my thing anymore, but it took me seven years, seven years to build up the courage to be like, I'm just going to do it.

And then I did it.

And then it was scary, very scary at first.

I hit January 1st of 2020.

One, I think, or 22.

And I had no more paychecks coming in.

And I was like, well, what do I do now?

Wow.

Is this what freedom's supposed to feel like?

It is scary.

I remember when I was, I started doing stand up and I was working at the Chicago Board of Trade.

That was like my day job.

I had it

for like nine months.

And it's like, it's so long ago, I haven't thought of it.

It's like, I've just been in turmoil my whole adult life because I haven't really worked for many corporations either.

But like, it's scary.

And then you go, do I have enough?

What if, you know, I'm booked four months ahead.

What if that dries up for you as a photographer?

How far ahead did you have to book yourself before you said, I'm going to do this full time?

I had zero plans.

I had zero savings, zero plans.

The only plans I had were Mile of Music.

They hired me.

This was the year after COVID shut everything down.

And they came back in 22 in a safe way, right?

Yeah.

And then at the same time, I had gotten hired by Harman Studios to do school portraits.

And so I did the school portraits until...

That was no more and then I worked there until like December 23rd or whatever because After that point it was just dead season.

Okay, and I I remember telling my my better half I said So I I gave my three-month notice today.

This was in like March or April or something and she's like oh And I went yeah You told me I could and she's like I didn't think you would do it

And she's the only thing she said was after she was sitting there, you know thinking and Frantically respond to this was I'm not gonna be your sugar mama and I said great I Don't want you to be and it took me a good year to to build up kind of where I got to but

it's been good You had a different woman though that was your sugar mama.

I would assume

You don't want to put that on your wife, but come on, you got to pay the bill.

All right, so tell us about chicken or the egg photography.

I saw you do, you have weddings, you started doing schools.

What can people expect?

What do they go there for?

What kind of

pictures?

Sure, so my main markets, this is a great time to ask because I just emailed someone this morning about this.

So I'm a commercial photographer.

I got into photography via doing events and stuff for on Broadway in downtown Green Bay.

And they're some of my most cherished clients.

I love them to bits.

And then I got more in the commercial realm of things where that's at least where I'm getting into.

And the markets I've really started to explore is the acronym BEAT.

you know, kind of a play on music too.

Yeah.

So it's B is bands.

A is active.

B, B, E. Yeah, I could spell.

E is experience.

So think like restaurants and events and things like that, you know, people need to see the experience, I think.

Yeah.

Appreciate it.

A is active.

That goes back to the read thing with the biking, you know, that kind of thing, tough mutters.

Right.

Whatever.

And then T is travel.

So, you know, I like to travel and I would like to get jobs doing travel stuff too, because they, why not?

Sounds fun.

Do you?

Absolutely.

And especially if you can get your trip paid for

and

work while you're there too.

Kind of.

I have to say, I, you know, I remember when sports illustrated was the thing.

It was like illustrated.

It

was pictures and, you know, and when the internet became the internet.

And everything was video and clips and all that I thought our picture is gonna go away like there was photography a lost art, but it's really not and I think more than ever It's capturing those moments where you don't get to decide.

It's like this is the moment

you're

looking at

How do you feel about that?

Is that ever a fear of yours that as a photographer, and I maybe do video stuff too, but... Not really.

No.

So where do you weigh in on that?

It seems like it's here to stay

if it's

weathered all this video and clips.

I think that the reality is that photo is here to stay.

I think video made a grand entrance, and people love to use it, and it's great, but frankly, within the FCC realm,

If you don't know how to light a good video, it's never gonna be good.

Photography and video is, lighting is everything.

Okay, so understanding the art form is huge.

I think the other element of it is that from a reality standpoint, using a phone to capture the real, reels like on social media and stuff, that's an amazing way to get your brand out there.

People don't...

People think you have to hire all this, this, now I'm going to contradict myself, but people think you have to hire all this amazing talent and quality to get these amazing reels.

The fact is people don't care about that in the reels.

They want real content.

They want to see human to human.

They don't care about actors.

That's interesting.

My guest is Chris Rogowski.

He's the founder of chicken or the egg production photography, excuse me, and he is a photographer and a local musician as well.

We're talking to him about his photography.

This article I read about you, Chris, was interesting.

I'm

curious what article it

is.

I

don't remember the name of it, but in the article it said, you started chicken or the egg photography after you sobered up, got off caffeine and sugar.

Would you have been able to do it if you hadn't kicked those?

And how did that help you?

Were you abusing all three of them?

Yeah, so I was a functioning alcoholic.

That's the best I can say.

Sure.

And I just finally had enough.

COVID kicked my butt.

And I was like, I'm not doing this anymore.

And January 4th of 21, I said,

And this is it and the last beer I had was actually FML and I won't say what that is You can figure it out if you Google search it but um

counter at Google.

Yeah And so I just I had enough and in seven months I quit my job.

I lost 60 pounds well about 60 pounds I did end up eating candy and sugar again, but

that's besides the point.

And I haven't had caffeine in five years, just over five, just about five years.

And it, what I've been able to do it, I'm sure, what I have wanted to, probably not.

I would have found every reason to not do it.

Right.

Wow.

Yeah.

Let me ask you this, as a photographer, when you're shooting something where you have an artistic POV or something you want to capture, those substances,

Does that affect your creativity in any way?

Or does it just make you more hyper?

Did it actually affect how you would capture something?

Well, that's a good question.

I haven't thought about it in that way.

I don't know, but I can tell you this.

I work at the Sardine Can and I take photos at the bar.

And just being around it as much as I am now, it really makes me realize

how glad I am to not be on it.

Because it really, I guess thinking about, and that's a long way of saying it dampened my ability to think.

I mean, sad to say my routine was get home, take a few shots and, you know, start the night off.

And it's really sad to say that, but so glad I don't do it anymore.

No, it's interesting because I went and heard the screenwriter, Paul Schrader, who wrote Taxi Driver Talk.

Yeah.

And back in the early 2000s, I love sitting at my computer, throwing a couple of whiskies back and writing, and I felt like a writer.

Yeah.

And he said, write drunk, edit sober.

Uh-huh.

But I've, you know...

hardly drank at all the last few years, and I find that you write better too.

There's this misconception that, oh, I'm more creative

when I,

you might think of something goofy or whatever.

I'm not saying you can't, but it's why I was asking you that I was curious.

All right, so Christopher Gowski is here.

He's the founder of Chicken.

or the egg of photography.

And he is a local musician as well.

I'm going to talk to him about some of the work he did for Myla Music.

And we'll talk more about his process too, because you have a photojournalistic background as well.

So we'll talk about that as well.

All right.

And our question of the night, folks, you can still get in on the fun.

It's National Fresh Breath Day.

What is the best way to tell someone they have bad breath?

Or what is the worst breath?

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This is Nightlight, and it is great to have you here, folks.

We are spending this Tuesday night, as we saw often do, talking about the things in life that make us happy.

Conrad, you know what I'm talking about.

Oh, yeah.

Bad

breath.

Bad breath.

Movies, TV.

They all go hand in hand.

If you watch a lot of TV, if you're a couch potato,

you can have bad breath.

That's the beautiful thing about it.

Popcorn doesn't give you good breath, does it?

All that butter?

No.

I eat popcorn all the time.

My breath smells amazing.

We'll take your word for it, Chris.

That is the voice of Chris Rogalski.

He is a Northeast Wisconsin based photographer and musician and the founder of Chicken or the Egg Photography here in Green Bay.

He's a kid who lifted himself up from the streets of Green Bay.

I love to say that.

I used to say that about Tiger Woods because people would say just because like in my neighborhood in Chicago where I grew up, people are just like, you know, when Tiger Woods went pro and this is a true story.

Yeah.

Yeah, it could be tough for a young black kid like that joined in the tour.

A lot of cultural differences.

I'm like.

He's a golfer you think he's carrying his clubs around the streets looking for pickup games like what are you talking about this nine-iron's gonna hit your head All right, so so you're from the streets at Green Bay though and you you've picked yourself up so all right Chris

What did you do for Myle of Music?

You said you were busy with that, you're editing stuff, just shooting pictures or video?

Yeah, so I'm on the Myle of Music photo team.

I have been for the last four years.

So I'm officially associated with Myle of Music.

Kim's a lovely person.

Thank you, Kim, for believing in me all the time.

But

yeah.

We don't know

Kim, do we?

Probably not.

Kim

Mavi?

Yeah.

Oh, Kim Alfie.

She was on the show.

Oh, OK, perfect.

I was thinking Abby Novak, but Kim was on the show last week.

Kim's awesome.

OK, just regard my comment.

You probably don't know her.

But she's a great

person.

I love her to bits.

But I was shooting photos for the festival and bands, people, all that kind of stuff.

And actually, I just got done editing them right before I had to leave for this.

Wow.

And

they're uploading, right?

That's like 1,000, 2,000 some odd photos, just.

done in two days.

And that's

crazy.

You said you walked like 34 miles.

Yeah, just over 34 miles.

And I

saw a cat.

This is the first time in mile history I've seen a cat.

Someone was holding onto a cat while they were listening to a band.

And the cat was just chilling.

Why is

the cat?

Why is that so weird?

No pets allowed.

I've

never seen a...

someone hold a cat like that.

Did you take a picture of it?

I

did,

yeah.

It was adorable.

So what do you do with all these pictures?

Does it go to the Mile of Music website or downtown Appleton, something like that?

Yeah, so they all go to Mile of Music because I'm shooting for them.

And

then I use whatever I want out of that for my website, for promo, talk to bands.

Things

like that, yeah.

We had a lot of fun talking with Kim.

I think it was probably last Tuesday or Wednesday, and it's so much work, but what is that?

Like, you're a musician.

What is that music festival like?

I mean, we've got our share of music festivals in Wisconsin, but what's Myla Music do for you as a musician?

As a musician, it really... It's like the number one way of...

connecting to other musicians.

And it feels that the collaboration that's there and the cohesiveness between musicians, whether you're a folk artist or a metal artist or whatever, like everyone is there and you're connected and you all just chit chat.

I mean, I've met people who have formed relationships and been, you know, gotten together as boyfriend, girlfriend or whatever because of my own music.

It's just an amazing

thing.

Are there bands or genres of music that are more exciting to shoot like some rocker running around or a folk artist because they're so still like, what, what gets you jazzed?

Uh, there was a guy, Ben Katzman and the, and the degreaser's or something like that.

And he was such a fun guy to shoot.

He was just all over the place, moving around and everything else.

And, uh,

And it was just exciting it was and then there was a couple others that were nice I like the folk ones, too You know you get to like chill a little bit and then they got two poses and I'm on radio So you can't see me, but imagine someone hunched over and someone not hunched over and that's

all you get right

so Yeah, I don't know it depends.

What do you want to what do you want to see how about that?

Yeah

So have you

ever performed there as a musician?

I did.

This is the third year.

No kidding.

So I don't know.

I must be the only one in mile history now 12 years who's double fisted it, so to speak.

I did photos and music.

Okay.

And it's been fun.

So you got two gigs there or two things you gotta.

Yeah, I have to go to the bank and cash check.

Wow.

All right.

How much do you make a year, Chris?

No, I'm just... Yeah.

All right.

After expenses.

So what would you tell people?

Like, I've never been to My Little Music, but I've interviewed people here.

Each year I've been on the air.

Yeah.

And I've heard, you know, Atwood music in Madison, obviously Summer Fest, My Little Music has become this huge thing.

What if someone hasn't been there, why should they go?

What will they come away with?

They should go to My Little Music because it's the only festival...

in my mind that you can get so many different experiences in one setting.

And it's literally a mile of music.

You can walk into multiple venues, and it's all free.

Yeah, that's really cool.

It's

completely free, funded by sponsorships and everything else.

And that's huge.

I mean, any other music festival, you're paying Buko bucks to get into.

Yeah.

And this, you get to meet the musicians, you get to talk to them.

It's not...

It's not summer fest where you're in this tiny little summer fest area.

It's

just a good time.

Are there more genres typically represented at Myla Music than others, or is there a pretty good variety?

I think it's a decent variety.

There's

folk, rock, creative, all that kind of stuff.

It's just a bunch of different things that you're probably not going to get at an average festival.

What do you play?

What's your genre?

Rock age of fables the band.

We'll talk more about that.

We're gonna do we'll do the news here then we'll come back for act two Bridget in the 818 is answering our question tonight.

She says other than a breath mint No other than a breath mint and insist they take I think

she meant offer

offer them a breath

It's like wait a minute

Well, that happens.

It happens to me, too.

Thank you, Bridget, for the text.

Tom says, we'll read Tom's text after the intermission as well.

All right, Christopher Gowski is here, folks.

He's going to spend a few more minutes with us when we come back.

Rob Thomas is here at 7.20, and hour number two.

We're going to break here for intermission.

We will be back with Act 2, and we'll recap everything we've done so far.

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This is Nightlight.

Welcome back.

We are kicking off Act 2 on this outstanding Tuesday, Wisconsin summer night.

My guest at the moment is Chris Rogowski.

We will get back to Chris in just a minute.

He is the founder of chicken or the egg photography and a local musician and photographer.

So we'll jump back into that.

Rob Thomas is here at 720 talking movies and what we can still expect at the box office as the summer goes on.

And we're gonna talk to Rob about his take on strip mall bars and see what Rob has to say.

Cause he wrote a cool piece for a city cast madness.

Our question of the night, folks, is in honor of National Fresh Breath Day, which I didn't even know existed, what is the best way to tell someone they have bad breath?

Do you tell them?

Do you suffer through it?

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Conrad has told me I have amazing breath.

We don't usually get that close.

There's usually glass between us, but, you know.

It holds up for the most part.

I went off on a Tiger Woods rant for my stand-up days.

It was crazy.

I haven't done that joke in ages, and I kind of laid it out there.

Chris, like it was just conversational, but it was from the stand-up back, so I apologize.

Oh, well, I would have never guessed.

If that

was

too

overt.

Oh, good.

I'm glad it sounded conversational.

Tom from New Berlin says, worst breath is your friend has pounded too many beers down and you're coming to the party later and you get yeast bomb.

Yeast bomb, they're over-serve them to be insulted on their breath.

Yes, I'm with you, Tom.

I know that smell.

I know that smell.

Tom says, yes, a photo is worth a thousand words.

And that, of course, isn't referenced to our current guest, Chris Rigauske.

Daniel from Anastia, he's in the 920.

He says, you just have to slowly remove that person from your life.

Offering a mint will only hurt their feelings.

That's true.

And it's a quick fix.

That's just a band-aid.

Yeah.

I like where Daniel's going with that.

And I've seen Daniel's work.

Remember when he came in here and he had that horrifying mask?

Yeah.

He might have some shallow graves in his backyard.

I'm not making accusations.

I'm just saying it wouldn't

surprise me.

Jim from Avaldon, he's in the 9-2-0.

He says, the proper passive aggressive response to bad breath from someone else is to carry smelling salts to sniff after they breathe on you to clear the smell from your nostrils.

Sounds like Jim's got some experience there.

Tom from Jackson says, the bird seed.

You

know what

that means?

Is that something to help your breath?

Eat bird seed?

I'd rather have bad breath.

I mean if it's like the spicy bird seed, maybe.

Do people eat that?

I don't know.

It keeps the squirrels away.

Okay.

All right, noted.

That's, Chris, I'm so glad you're here for reasons other than that, but we are starting Act Two here, and Chris Rogowski is here.

He's the founder of Chicken or the Egg Photography here in Green Bay, and he is a local musician and photographer.

So you have a photojournalist background.

Is that a different kind of photography than, you know, say something like, do you ever, what you, let's start here.

What is your favorite thing to shoot?

If you have one.

That's a good question.

Years ago, it would have been bands.

And it still is bands.