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F1 and Barr Band Friday (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Jul 25, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Peach Waba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who loves to watch true crime, but only if it's shoplifting, Peach Waba.
That is true.
Oh my god.
What a way to start the show.
Sound like Bonnie Tyler there.
Could we do the whole thing over?
Would that be crazy?
Yeah.
Okay.
Just a second.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
We don't have to do the whole thing.
You don't want.
I should just start talking.
I'm going to sound
like an Irish tenor.
It's all right.
And now a guy who wants planted evidence so he can make a citizen's arrest.
Pete Schwabba.
All righty, ladies and gentlemen, that is how you do a double intro, Mr. Aaron Zommeres.
Thank you.
Welcome to Night Light.
I am Pete Schwabba.
It is great to have you here tonight, folks.
It is a beautiful, I shouldn't say beautiful, because the other night I got burned, but it is a gorgeous night, at least here in Madison.
I hope it's lovely wherever you are.
across our state as we move through the evening.
It's a Friday night.
Be happy.
Join the show.
We're going to talk about some really fun stuff tonight.
It's a Barman Friday night.
Terry Barr is here.
Is she here, Aaron Zalmers?
I
think so.
Sort of.
In a way.
In a way.
We have a segment we're gonna play with Terry Barr our bar band Friday night You're all familiar with and she is bringing great tunes as usual We will play that at 7 30 she might be here live But she dropped by yesterday and we did it so it's great stuff and it's Dana Perry is her name this musician that Terry is introducing us to tonight.
You're not gonna want to miss that.
She's just really terrific It's 6 35 this is it's funny that you just did a redo
AZ because we need to redo with our 635 guests tonight Frank Anderson folks of Wisconsinology.com was supposed to be on the show Wednesday But when I was talking about the beautiful weather Wednesday night here in Madison, they were having horrible storms up in Northeast Wisconsin my own house lost power
And we had trouble keeping Frank on the line.
He had some issues, technical issues too.
So we rescheduled him for tonight.
He will be here at 6.35.
And we're gonna be talking about all kinds of fun stuff.
He has a site called Wisconsinology.com, great Wisconsin stuff, weird stuff, historical stuff, famous stuff, great stories about our state.
It's a phenomenal website.
Frank is also a director, producer and musician.
Very accomplished, I call him a showbiz, renaissance man, and he is Appleton's own.
So that's at 635, Aaron Zomers filling in for the K-man who is off, Conrad was off last night too, wasn't he?
I believe so.
And we don't know what he's doing.
I don't.
I find that subpar.
I need to know what Conrad is doing.
Maybe you can get him an ankle monitor or something.
Nightlight ankle
monitor.
Yes a branded
one.
I love that Conrad is off.
He will be he will be back Tuesday night and Aaron's armor sitting in Aaron typically produces the Todd Alba show here on Civic Media So if you don't listen to that you should but I'm sure you already do Todd does great work and Aaron is right there doing great work with them Is it very different?
This show can't be that much different to produce because Todd is Todd talks politics and current events, but he's also pretty
He likes to lighten up every once in a while,
right?
Yes, definitely.
I would say I've produced many shows at Civic Media over my time here, and I would say that yours and Todd's not too different from each other.
Okay, that's good.
It's always fun to be a guest on your show too, and we've had Todd on.
He does a phenomenal job every time he's on the show.
So it's great to have you, buddy.
Thank you for all you've done all week.
We've been here all week, folks, in Madison, broadcasting from Civic Media headquarters overlooking State Street.
And it's been a really fun week.
And Aaron Zalmers has delivered, as he always does when I'm here.
Thank you to Dom.
Thank you everybody for making it work.
Luke Mathers, Corey Hartman, Aaron Greno, Sage Wilde.
Great stuff.
Hey, we got a really fun question tonight.
Should we get to that?
And then...
Move on and talk about other stuff.
Why don't we do that?
Yeah, let's open it up.
Let's get to the night light.
Question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Question.
Questions.
What is your favorite lake or body of water in Wisconsin?
It's a fun one.
We're known for our lakes.
A lot of people don't realize this.
Mostly in Minnesota, probably.
But Wisconsin actually has many more lakes than Minnesota.
Did you know that, Aaron?
I did, but from what I understand, it's because our definition of lake is more broad.
And we accept smaller bodies of water than they do as lakes, I think.
Do you think that's like sort of spin from Minnesota?
It could be.
It very well could be.
I'll tell you, the guy to ask is going to be here at 6.35, and that's why I kind of say this question for tonight.
Frank Anderson knows all about Wisconsin, so we'll run that by Frank.
That sounds plausible, what you just said, but as far as I know, we do have more lakes than Minnesota.
We just don't brag about it.
We don't have to put it on a license plate, as it were.
So that is our question of the night, folks.
What is your favorite Wisconsin lake or body of water?
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Great fun.
I'm gonna say, this is kind of a no-brainer for me because I grew up as a kid.
I went up to the three lakes area.
to my grandma's cottage.
It was on a chain of lakes.
There were 27 lakes in the chain, even though it was called three lakes.
I don't, I've had that explained to me a few times and heard different things as to why it's called, reasons why it's called three lakes.
But Big Stone Lake is mine just because I spent so much time running and catching frisbees off the pier.
My whole childhood in the summer, that's all I remember is being in three lakes on Big Stone Lake at my grandma's cottage.
So I'm going to say Big Stone Lake
in the Three Lakes area.
That is my favorite body of water.
I live very close to Green Bay, the body of water Green Bay, not the city.
So I like that too.
But in terms of being picturesque, I'm going to say Big Stone Lake and Three Lakes.
What about you, Erin?
You got a favorite body of water?
I think I'm going to go with East Bearskin Lake, way up north in the Harsha, Rhinelander type area.
It's just one that...
I go fishing on with my dad a lot when we're up north.
There's a few other ones in the area, horse head lakes, Lake Catherine.
A lot of good ones for fishing up there, but I know bearskin is always fun because it has a lot of variety of shoreline.
Like some lakes you go fishing on and it's all about the same, but there there's areas that are rockier, areas that are weedier.
And so if you like to go and fish and want some variety in your day, that's a good place to go.
And that's in Rhinelander?
Around there around round.
Did you say East Bear Skin Lake?
Yes, I think there's it's I believe it's two lakes that are kind of split
There has to be a West Bear Skin Lake.
I believe it's calling one of them East, right?
Okay.
Well, that's cool.
That's gorgeous That's the same.
That's we did the question the other day.
What where is up north start?
That's both of these big stone and bear skin are both definitely up north
definitely
But some people might say Lake Winnebago.
I guess you could say Lake Michigan or Superior.
Technically, they're touching Wisconsin, but I like the inland lakes.
There's something so serene about them and the trees surrounding
the lake.
And it's just more contained.
And that's what I loved about Big Stone Lake in the Three Lakes area.
It was big enough to water ski on.
I never really did because I was a bad water skier.
You could go tubing.
We did lots of that.
There was all kinds of, it was big enough to do that, but it wasn't huge.
You didn't get the big waves.
And running off the pier was like the greatest thing ever.
We would just do that all day.
So share with us, folks, be part of the show.
What is your favorite Wisconsin lake or body of water?
I know a lot of people where I live, they do a lot of stuff on the Pestigo River.
They ski, there's all kinds of tubing and stuff like that, fishing on the Pestigo River as well.
I know there's lots of fishing holes up near Marinette Pestigo.
You could even, if your favorite body waters a little fishing hole, that's okay too.
There just has to be water involved.
So let us know.
That is our nightlight question of the night.
Hope everybody is having a great Friday.
I have to read this because our pal Bud from Jamesville texts us over the night.
He listens to the rebroadcast from four to six AM and he was referring to last night's guest, Steve Cochran.
And he said, I love Steve Cochran.
Exclamation point.
I listened to him on WGN.
From the moment he started to the moment he was told to shut up and leave the building, he unfortunately knew that, quote, hand signal.
Love your show, Bud from Janesville.
He's referring to the hand signal.
Dom was giving me hand signals last night, but I didn't say what he said.
No, I was looking.
I didn't know if he was telling me to talk or shut up.
So we had a laugh about that.
And then Steve Cochran was on the line at the same time and he goes, I've gotten a lot of hand signals from my bosses and radio.
And I forgot to give Steve a plug last night.
So check out at Cochrane Show, Steve's website.
I think you can listen to his show there as well.
But he's got lots of fun stuff.
And he's got podcasts too, which he's asked me to be on in a couple of weeks.
And it's called Anything But Politics, which is kind of what we do here for the most part.
So it's great to have Steve on the show last night.
Thank you for the text bud.
So you said, all right, Caddyshack, this is a big anniversary today because Caddyshack
dropped today, which was probably also a Friday in 1980.
Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, Brian Murray, Ted Knight, Rodney Dangerfield, just a fantastic cast and one of my, one of the iconic movies of my childhood.
I was not a good golfer.
I played golf a little bit, but I loved everything about Caddyshack.
So that's a big anniversary today.
So if you want to chime in, if you want to share something about Caddyshack, whatever it is, folks, throughout the course of the show,
It's great to hear from you guys, so you're always welcome to comment on whatever we're talking about tonight.
I think my favorite Caddyshack character, it's probably a toss up between, you know what?
I was gonna say it's a toss up between Ty Webb, played by Chevy Chase, and Carl, played by Bill Murray, but I'm gonna break that tie and say Ted Knight, Judge Smales, because I feel like he gets as many laughs in that movie as anybody.
And that line weren't there in the pro shop.
Rodney Dangerfield says, oh, this is the worst looking hat I've ever seen.
When you buy a hat like this, I bet you give, they give you a free bowl of soup.
And he looks over at 10 night is wearing the hat.
Maybe my favorite part of the whole movie.
Beautiful stuff.
So also, all right, you showed me also, Aaron, let's try to get to this before the break.
I was reading today about how Trey Parker and Matt Stone
had to fight to get that episode, the season premiere of season 27, South Park on the air.
Paramount, who had just fired Stephen Colbert, kept telling them no.
And they showed a little, they showed junk on the air, but what allowed them to do that was they put eyes on it and made it a character.
And they
had a talk.
And they had a talk.
And I don't know how much I can say here.
I've been told I can have a little leeway because I'm on at night.
it's incredible that the stuff, and I've never even come close to being in rooms like those guys are, but what I've seen them shut down compared to what they got on the air is mind-blowing.
And at Comic-Con, they said that they went back and forth with Paramount for four days saying, and Paramount would say, you're not putting this on.
And they were like, we are putting that on back and forth, back and forth.
They just paid these guys a billion and a half dollars.
And Parker and Stone won.
and they got on with, their concession might have been putting eyes on it and giving it a voice.
Also,
it moves in a very disjointed way.
It is clearly, you know, they can make the case that it's a creature.
It's
not actually a creature.
It looks like a
finger.
So yeah, whatever they did, those guys are, well, they're brilliant writers, but just to get that through the studio system and get it on the air, I don't know if people understand what a challenge that had to have been, even for guys with an established track record.
like the South Park guys.
It was fascinating.
It was a fascinating read.
All right.
What is your favorite Wisconsin body of water or lake, river, fishing, hole, whatever?
Let us know.
855-752-4842.
Let us know in the app.
You can share your favorite Caddyshack character with us too, if you like.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwab.
We're coming back reading your texts on the Civic Media Radio Network.
It might
be the first time I've ever sang on the show.
Really?
Maybe second.
Hey, it's Peach Wabba Nightlight.
Great to have you with me on this Friday night coming to you live from downtown Madison.
Frank Anderson, founder of Wisconsinology.com, and a great Appletonian will be here at 6.35.
And then it is a bar ban Friday night.
Terry Barr will be here at 7.35 with a great artist she is featuring tonight.
So you won't want to miss either one of those.
Our question of the night is what is your favorite Wisconsin lake or body of water?
And you can also share your favorite Caddyshack character because Caddyshack premiered in 1980 on this day.
So that makes it what, 45 years ago?
I guess so.
Oh yeah.
Lord, wow.
Crazy.
We have a phone call, I think, in regard to our question of the night, and it is Jack from Merrimack.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, thanks for putting me on.
Absolutely.
I just want to say, first of all,
that when I first heard about your show, I was a little skeptical.
I primarily tuned into civic media for the political commentary and talk, but your show has just been fabulous.
The entertainment and the guests that you have, it's really been an enjoyable experience.
Thank you very much Jack.
Here's as political as I get Jack.
Love one another.
How's that?
If only
it were that easy, right?
Yeah Thank you very much for the nice words.
Do you have a favorite lake in Wisconsin Jack?
Yeah, I actually do I have some wonderful memories of Shawna Lake up in near Shawna, Wisconsin
very
nice
The time I was probably six or seven years old, every summer from then until probably I was 13 or 14 when we moved out of Green Bay.
My mother and I would go up to Shawna Lake when school vacation started.
My dad would work in Green Bay and he would come up and join us on the weekend.
Sometimes he'd get a three-day weekend.
with us and it was just a wonderful experience.
I spent many, many days just hanging out on the waters fishing or even swimming where our cottage was, my grandparents cottage really, where that was.
It was not real great swimming but we could walk from there down to the county park and there was a good swimming beach down there, just a wonderful
a wonderful lake and a wonderful experience.
And by the way, the fishing was terrific.
Jack, that is fantastic.
Thank you, buddy.
Appreciate the call and thank you for the nice words.
Have a great night.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
That is very well put.
I could not have said it better myself.
What he just described, what Jack just described is magical.
That is the Wisconsin Lake experience.
The Wisconsin Summer Lake experience, whether it's just on the weekends or you live close to a place like that year round,
fishing, swimming.
I mean, it's just, it doesn't get any better than that.
And that's why, I mean, seriously, if Wisconsin was not so cold in the winter, there would be 15 million people living here.
I think that's very possible.
It's that beautiful and it's that fun in the summer.
It's just those damn winters.
Let's go to our social media texts.
Let's read the responses today.
Daniel Wheeler says, Turtle Lake in Lily, Wisconsin.
I've heard of Turtle Lake.
My childhood friend.
In my neighborhood used to go all the way up to Turtle Lake, which I believe is like northwest in Wisconsin.
I think so.
I think it is.
Daniel says, a gorgeous little lake filled with small mouth bass and surrounded by steep hills of pine and birch.
Just make sure you're off the water before sunset.
That's when the turtles come out.
Daniel, that sounds like a fun little horror film.
with the horrible turtles.
Love it.
Thank you, buddy.
Monica Hill says Lake Minona because I love the drive down John Nolan at night with the city lights reflecting on the water.
That is beautiful.
That's true.
How sad is it that I didn't even think of the two lakes we have here in Madison because sitting out at the Union at night and I've seen movies where that's Mendoza, right?
I always get them confused.
I get them confused too.
I haven't lived here that long.
One of the lakes.
But the one that's by the Union is just
Stunning at night.
So I would have to put that on my list as well Vince Maranto Fellow former us.
He's still a comedian a Chicago comedian says Lake Geneva is literally 20 minutes from me.
So I'll go with that.
Yeah, Lake Geneva is pretty nice, too Great answer so far.
Let's go to the text line and see what is cooking there
Mark from Prairie to Sax says, I'll always have a soft spot for Lake Superior.
My grandparents actually had land on it.
They moved there during the Great Depression, leaving electricity more or less behind until the REA came along and brought it to Herbster.
Do you know what the REA is?
I don't know.
OK.
I remember collecting green sea glass on their little beach.
One time I found a big butter knife floating in water that must have fallen off a lake.
Oh, that's great.
Thank you, Mark.
Appreciate it.
We got another call.
Wait a minute.
This is one of my favorite Wisconsin lakes, and she's on the phone right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, Catherine Lake.
How are you, my friend?
Are you at my station right now?
I am.
I've been here all week.
What the hell?
I keep missing you.
Oh, my God.
I know.
Well, I don't work nights, for God's sakes.
I'm doing the mornings.
I'm hanging out with Don
and Gordia.
But I love listening
to you.
I hung out with them.
The other day, I was on their show, and they were filling in for Maggie.
And those guys are so much fun.
We had a
blast.
They adore you, too.
They want to have you get up in the morning and be with them, but it's too damn early.
I'll do it.
I told them I'll do it.
I'd make an exception.
I go on Don Rosen's show sometimes.
I'll go on their show.
I love it.
Yeah.
Well, you know, if you go on Don, you got to go on Don.
That's right.
No, I'm calling also because I adore your question.
You are sitting between the two lakes.
The only
one that matters.
I
know.
The only one.
I know the Manona.
That's all you got to know.
I don't know about the only ones, but they're both
fun.
And here in Madison, we have
Catherine Lake.
We
have to we have to get to the news.
Catherine, it was great to hear from you.
Is she still there?
I know.
Did you bump her?
I did.
How dare you?
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Frank
Anderson.
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Is that over already?
It was a request.
Who requested that,
Frank?
Me.
Do you know who that famous voice is?
That's Vic Perron from Menominee Falls, Wisconsin.
Oh, I knew there was a Wisconsin connection there.
Well, and the creator of Outer Limits, of course, was Leslie Stevens, who got his big break in show business, courtesy.
our very own Orson Welles.
Oh, of course.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is the voice of the one and only Frank Anderson, who is the founder of Wisconsinology.com and a music producer, movie producer, director, musician, just a showbiz, showbiz Renaissance man.
And we tried to have Frank the other night, but there was, there were all kinds of storms up in Northeast Wisconsin.
So Frank, thank you for being available tonight.
I'm glad we got to have this talk finally.
Well, I am available.
I'm actually I haven't a half hour left before I have to go on stage.
Where are you going on stage?
Just a local thing.
It's an apple.
Oh, very nice.
Are you do you have anything to do with a mile of music?
Dead.
Oh,
no, no, not bad.
I think it's fantastic to change the whole city.
Yeah, everything.
I mean, we live in cover band land, USA, right?
Yeah.
Every year, the cover band is a year if there is such an award.
Well, there is.
It goes to someone from Green Bay or Appleton, Rochester.
Yes.
And I mean, that's all there was to aspire to.
You know, when I become a musician, I want to be able to copy other musicians like nobody ever copied them.
You know and there was a lack of originality and by the way a little helpful hint to all budding musicians out there The whole idea of becoming one is to not sound like anyone else or be like anyone else
That's it.
Yeah now listen.
That's great advice like to any artist all you have any art is your personality That's what sets you apart absolutely Frank and I will say
Northeast Wisconsin does have some amazing cover bands, but I totally hear what you're saying.
Oh, they're extraordinary.
Yeah The first day I was in Appleton when I moved here.
I was standing line for coffee The lady in front of me goes, you know that Vic Ferrari You close your eyes when you listen to them.
You think you're listening to the record And I suppose that's the highest compliment cover band think
And I didn't know what any of those things meant.
Then I discovered every damn band in the valley was a cover
band.
Well, you've played with enough bands.
I mean, you're like, you've played with Butch Big and all these huge musicians.
I only played with bands that had original material.
Yeah.
I played with, you know, bar bands when I was in the teenager, but that soon ended.
Yeah, so it's all a mystery to me, but I guess they're very well paid, and that's all you need.
There you go.
That's right.
Hey, speaking of bands, and I wasn't going to lead with this, but since we're on the topic, Spinal Tap 2 is coming out.
What do you feel about that, Frank?
Did you like the first one?
Love it.
Yeah.
Love it.
It was fantastic.
And I was in a theater full of people, young people.
Well, I was young then.
who sought to do a real band.
They didn't get to that time.
I love
that.
I love that.
Yeah.
Oh, god.
You know what?
I have to say, when I was doing stand up, I was working at some one night gig in Minnesota and we were talking about late night TV and the DJ who introduced the comics said, well, you know, Leno does his thing and Letterman does his thing.
And then Larry Sanders, he does like a whole different thing, which I find really interesting.
He thought.
Larry Sanders was an actual late-night talk show host that showed you mostly behind-the-scenes stuff, which it kind of was, but I'm like, if this guy's kidding, he's totally fished me in, and I've fallen for it, but it was just a beautiful moment.
Oh, he's not kidding.
I've run into many like that, and don't slam on them.
I mean, he really sold
it.
Oh, he sure did.
It was a great show.
Yeah, yeah.
So, all right, so what got me, I mean, we have you on regardless every so often, Frank, but what really caught me, my attention was the Davey Crockett statue in Nina, and I thought I knew Frank would have something on this, sure enough,
yeah.
For all the people who aren't familiar with Nina, a local philanthropist named John Bergstrom is buying all these statues for Nina.
So you have a, you know, if you go through town, you'll see Ben Franklin, you'll see Abraham Lincoln sitting on a bench.
You'll see Thomas Jefferson sitting on a bench.
You'll see, you'll see, for some reason, you'll see Ronald, of course, we know why.
Ronald Reagan on a street corner waving at everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, um, well, David Crockett has now joined the group.
So what's the deal
there?
Just.
I mean, it's such an eclectic
I know and I got I got a hand at him though.
He also has a statue of Liberty, which is really the most hated symbol among People of the right wing.
Oh Really?
It's a point of contention with them.
Send away.
You're hungry.
You're poor people needing to be free.
We don't you know, that's their own message
Frank,
what?
And I'm not swearing.
Did you hear me?
No, I know.
The two things, Aaron, that I always tell Frank.
I promise my wife I wouldn't swear on Pete Schwab's show anymore.
And I'm sticking to it.
Dagnamit.
Whenever Frank is on, I say, Frank, I don't do politics.
And you can't swear because it's the radio.
And he always somehow manages to shoehorn a borderline swear or political thing in there.
All right, so Frank one of the things I give you credit for which is really phenomenal Frank Anderson is my guest by the way a founder of wisconsinology.com a must follow or visit is how is your your ability to tie everything that's ever happened in the world to Wisconsin
and
from stuff in your kitchen to the grand concept that Medicare is good.
Very fair point.
Very well said.
But what I want to ask you about is this, there was a mob hit that you posted about on Facebook.
And you took credit on behalf of our state for Milwaukee trying to off Lefty Rosenthal, who was a Chicago numbers guy,
um in a vegas i think it was at tony romos in las vegas
that is correct and he is played by deniro robert deniro as he knows that's right roughly played loosely based but that car bomb that opens the entire movie is not loosely based that actually happened correct and so i wrote yeah because because because the man behind the hit was from milwaukee frank balistrari
Frank the Mad Bomber Ballastry, I wrote Packers, Badgers, Cogon!
We
rule!
On Wisconsin!
Wisconsin!
Wait a minute, but is that okay because Lefty Rosenthal?
was like a business guy for the mob for the Chicago outfit.
He gets they try to take him out and there was some kind of weird plate in the bottom of the car that saved his life and he he lived and then he kind of kind of went away to protect himself.
Right there was so poorly.
Do you remember 70s cars Pete?
Yeah.
They're all crap.
like crap, they were barely thrown together.
Everyone I ever had just melted in two weeks.
And Cadillac was severely unbalanced, they found on the road.
So by putting a metal plate onto the driver's seat, it gave it a balance to this particular model in Cadillac.
And that saved his life because the bomb was right under there.
That is unbelievable.
Okay, so what I didn't know was,
I'm familiar with the balustrary family in Milwaukee.
And there are different balustraries.
I'm not lumping all of them into... There's tons of them.
Yeah.
There's tons of them.
And they're not all in the... Right.
No.
No.
But I know when I worked the Comedy Cafe that there were, you know, some of the people there knew Frank Balustrary, but you're connecting him to this bombing.
What do you mean?
Like, is this something like the Chicago mob farmed out and said, hey, take care of this for us?
Or how directly was...
No.
No.
Okay.
No.
Once again.
on Wisconsin.
No, the Milwaukee mob moved in big time.
They wanted more of it.
And that's
why that happened?
Yeah, the Milwaukee mob is significant in the 70s Vegas action.
And I mean, I remember the Vegas of the 70s, it was transition.
They were arguing whether to go to family format or be more family friendly like they are now.
and to get away from hardcore gambling, but still be in hardcore gambling.
But yeah, it was a transition time.
The places were really empty back then.
And it was hard attracting.
You had to have a major star up there.
You had to have a Tom Jones.
You had to have a Dean Martin.
You
couldn't settle.
sherry lewis and your puppets or you know or or buddy hack it and even buddy hack it that just didn't do it anymore and uh... yeah yeah so the milwaukee mob kind of flexed its muscle there for a little while
yeah that's interesting uh... okay so
Recently, I want to just ask you about this.
There was this great screening at the new Atwood Music Hall here in Madison.
Did you go to that?
It was Wendy Schneider's film, The Smart Studios, based on Butch Vig and Steve Marker.
How did that go?
How was that, Frank?
It was fantastic.
Wendy did such a great job.
She's great.
And you'd be very ashamed of me watching it, because I was counting the number of times I appear.
and versus hold it this is the reason versus how many times billy corgan appeared in the documentary because he's all over it right
right
but i beat him you're all over that documentary yeah yeah i was keeping score i got billy i got you by three you got five minutes left to settle it
Oh my, Frank, there was a time about seven years ago where within the course of a week, I was watching documentaries and you would either direct it or were in like four of them.
I'm like, oh my God.
And
we had just
become friends.
I'm like, who the hell is this guy?
You know, but that's impressive.
And you have.
And you spent some time in those circles and you were great in the documentary.
That's really exciting.
I'm really not as a documentary filmmaker because I get bored so quick.
But many of my friends who had me involved in areas that I'm actually good at, like animation or whatever, or as a talking head, you know, were kind enough to involve me.
I mean, as a documentary filmmaker, you have to really dig into your subject and you got to show up every day sometimes for years to let a story unfold or to find a story.
I'm good for one day.
Well, I hope you're good for a few more minutes.
We're going to do a really fast break here.
We're coming right back, and I'm going to ask Frank about Sidney Sweeney.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
He is confused right now.
This is more music from Caddyshack.
I thought it was Caddyshack.
It was the supper club scene.
Yeah.
I didn't know if this was another one of Frank's requests or not, so.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
I'm Pete Chihuahua.
It's a Bar Band Friday night, folks.
Terry Bar will be here at 735 with new music and sparkling conversation.
What is your favorite Wisconsin lake or body of water?
That is tonight's question.
You can also share your favorite Caddyshack character if you like.
Caddyshack is 45 years old as of today.
Frank Anderson is my guest right now.
The always fun Frank Anderson.
Check out Wisconsinology.com or listen to us talk right here.
That's even better.
Hey Frank, do you have a favorite body of water in Wisconsin?
Lake Winnebago.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it's near me.
Well done.
Because I'm speaking up for my region.
There you go.
I love that.
My
answers will be things that are made here.
Northeast Wisconsin.
Yeah.
Hey, I wanted to, you posted something the other day.
I don't know if it was probably Facebook, but about Pamela Anderson's comeback.
Um, oh, yeah, she's actually a really good actor and you know, she always was Yeah, it's just that that sex tape that that made her well Baywatch didn't help
either before that.
Yeah She was you know, they find the peg hole for you and they stick it there in Hollywood.
Yeah,
and I can only imagine I can't imagine how many
You know powerful older men.
She had to fight off her life and her career is She's a real hero.
Yeah, and a
great actress
getting a lot of a lot of props for the the last couple projects She's done the show girl and then this this new project that she just did recently
Absolutely, which is what is I
know I
can't know real by Tennessee.
Oh, there you go.
Yeah
And then Tennessee Williams, that's, you know, he's no slouch.
He's back, baby.
Thanks to Pamela Anderson.
I forgot
about him for 30 years, but he's
back.
You did a post too about this new Sydney Sweeney movie, Americana, which I was not aware of.
It hits theaters.
I think it hits theaters August 15th, 2025.
But she's supposed to be really good in
that.
She's fantastic.
I don't know the accent.
I urge everyone out there to
Look up the trailer for Americana which opens this summer and go to YouTube and watch that trailer and tell me if you understand a single word Sidney Sweeney says I love it.
I love it that she made up this or you know found someone with this wonderful accent and I love accents.
She's great
She has a a bar of soap.
I don't know if you're aware of this, Frank, but that is supposed to be like it's based on her bathwater.
They somehow have found a way to infuse Sidney Sweeney's bathwater into soap because men are very lonely.
It's sold out immediately.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Here's what a sucker I am.
Is our entire nation
sick?
Yes.
There are a lot of lonely people who only live online.
And I here's here's how.
I believe this, Frank.
Somebody, as a hoax, put a bar of soap with a hole in the middle and said, that was the Sydney Sweeney soap.
And I believed it.
It was just a joke.
But I thought, I bet people would buy that.
I
can't believe it.
Well, I can believe it.
I know.
Oh my god.
I bet she's the object of many much older.
Yeah.
Powerful men too.
Probably
like Pamela
dealing with the same stuff.
There's a great word for them.
I just learned.
These guys that have who date people who are 30 years younger than they are, they're called schnizzlers.
Schnizzlers.
I never heard that.
Schnizzlers.
Spread that one around.
Is this a Wisconsinology thing or did you just make that up or is that a real thing?
Actually a friend of mine made it up, and I couldn't stop laughing.
Yeah, I kind of like it.
It's catchy.
Every time I see someone with a 30 year old, younger, 20 year old, Donald Trump's a schnizzler.
Rolling Stones are schnizzlers.
They're all around
us.
We're a wash in schnizzlers.
We're a wash.
Hey, before we, I know you have to go.
I think you, did you have dinner?
Or no, you're going to the gig.
You got a gig, right?
I'm right at the gig.
It's no big deal.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I wanted to ask you, Jack Pierce, I saw this, I don't remember if it was Wisconsinology or your Facebook, the man who laughs from 1926 to 1928.
This is where the Joker came from.
Is that right?
And you tied this to Wisconsin, expertly.
I love it.
Well, it's kind of tied to Wisconsin, but the great part is, you know, too young.
Two young boys watching that movie the man who laughs and if I were you I'd watch it.
It is an amazing movie and They watched it and they grew up of course to be the comic artists of Batman and they never forgot Conrad Vite as Gwynne Plain.
It's a famous novel the man who laughs Alexander the Moth
And it was a huge hit in its time.
The boys never forgotten that pasted that smile on it on their character, the Joker.
That is so great.
From 1926 to 1928, that's not a talkie, right?
No, I think it has sound synchronization.
You know,
some effects that are synchronized.
But I hate talkies, so.
Oh, that's
funny.
It's
right up my alley.
That's great.
Check out Wisconsinology folks, Wisconsinology.com, Frank Anderson.
Frank, what are you... Can I
ask a quick shout
out?
Absolutely, and tell us where you're playing if people are listening in Northeast Wisconsin.
We've got about 40 seconds.
It's a private party.
Oh,
okay.
But I want a big shout out to Christina Laurie.
Oh, yeah.
Her guest last week from up North News.
She's not there anymore.
She is on her own, and if you check her out on Facebook,
It's a great source of—actually, she keeps it up every 30 minutes.
She's got a new post about Wisconsin.
Oh, that's so great.
Yeah, I just heard about that last week, and you guys are kindred spirits with your love for our state.
Hey, thank you,
buddy.
I think we are, but she's
great.
Thanks so much, Frank.
Crush it at the gig, and I can't wait to do this again.
Alright,
Frank Anderson ladies and gentlemen, check out Wisconsinology.com.
We are coming back with Act 2 right after intermission here.
More candy-check music as we segue into Act 2 here at Nightlight with Peach Wava.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Peach Waba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who once tore his ACL playing chess, Peach Waba.
Welcome back.
to a beautiful night here in Wisconsin.
I don't know where you are, but I hope it's a lovely evening wherever you are.
It is gorgeous here in the studio, probably 70 degrees, not much humidity.
Would you agree with that, Aaron?
I would say so.
Thankfully, you know, much different from outside.
Yeah, that is the voice of Aaron Zahmer is filling in for the K-Man tonight.
Aaron has been a huge help all week as I've been doing the show here from Civic Media headquarters, which is always fun.
and shout out to Luke Mathers and Sage and Corey and Aaron and Zomers and Dom and Todd Alba just for the heck of it because he's a small guy.
It's nice to see people.
It's good to be in Madison.
Hope you're having a great night wherever you are.
We are officially at the weekend, folks.
So rejoice and sit back and listen to the radio and be part of the show if you would.
We had a great first hour.
Frank Anderson was here the founder of Wisconsinology.com Frank is a great Wisconsinite and a lot of fun to talk to he ties everything to Wisconsin and he did he he gave credit to Wisconsin for creating the Joker because the two people who actually created the character of the Joker and Batman saw A silent movie here in Wisconsin and use that as inspiration and it's unbelievable
How Frank can do that?
Oh, I do have a question.
Is that true?
I mean, yeah, he would not have posted it.
Like he is a research fiend.
Okay.
I believe I just
yeah, I'm not as familiar with his work.
No, that's a good question though, because anybody could say that, you know, but but Frank does the the legwork.
So it was great to talk to Frank and catch up with Frank.
We got sidetracked on Wednesday due to weather.
So he was able to come here tonight.
It is a bar band.
Friday night, we do that every week here, just about every week, when Terry Barr, our Wisconsin music expert, and one of the hosts of Max Inc Radio here on WMDX, which you can hear every Saturday night from now, I believe it's 6 to 9 p.m., and check out the podcasts at civicmedia.us.
Great show.
Terry will be here shortly.
That is pre-recorded content, so the last live segment will be...
Up until the news at the bottom of the hour and then we'll play my interview from Terry from yesterday with the Here in Zomber's assisting on that as well.
Does Todd does Todd be like it when he Sees you doing all this stuff is he like do not get comfortable with Schwabba
You know, I haven't I not really he I don't think he's too picky about that.
He's pretty secure.
I think so
as his Conrad.
I don't I'm just not trying to start rumors here here, and that's all I'm saying
That's all good.
You know, I think I would be able to handle the both at least for a time if
it came back Dom and I were joking last night that Conrad is just horsing around That's why he took a couple days because I don't know what he's doing It's not my business, but typically I do ask him one night.
He took the night off because he got a tattoo Then he went to the draft, but this time I didn't ask him so I don't know what's going on
I still think a branded ankle monitor is just give it to him and say it's merchant He's got to rep the brand and nightlight.
I just like to know where you are
I don't think that's asking too much.
So it's a Friday night here, a version of Nightlight, folks.
Great to have you with me.
And our question of the night, and this is a great summer question, is what is your favorite Wisconsin lake or body of water?
Let me know at 855-752-4842-8555 Civic, or you can text us on the app or on the stream if you're watching on X, YouTube, or Facebook.
You can also share with us your favorite Caddyshack character.
So I would welcome that as well.
Love talking about Caddyshack.
One of my childhood pleasures watching Caddyshack.
On the stream, Dave Kunish from Marinette.
I know Dave.
He says the bay and the Wisconsin River.
Now when he's referring to the bay, that's the Northeast Wisconsin thing.
He means green bay for those of you.
There are other bays in Wisconsin, but that's what we mean in Northeast Wisconsin.
Of course, the body of water of green bay.
and the Wisconsin River.
I don't know that I know the Wisconsin River.
Is that by Wisconsin Rapids?
I do not remember.
Yeah.
I should school myself more on the waterways of Wisconsin.
Sarah also listening on the stream says the Peshtigo River and the Crivets area.
Yeah, Crivets has Lake Nakabe, beautiful lake.
Those are both great stream texts.
Thank you guys very much.
Great to have you with me tonight.
And then going back to the text line, we've got Mark from Prairie to Sack.
His favorite caddyshack character is Judge Smales.
I love this.
Mark even put a line in.
One of my favorite Judge Smales lines is when he says to his nephew, Spalding.
They're coming off the golf course, taking a break, and Spalding's like, I want a hamburger.
No, a cheeseburger.
I want a milkshake.
And then Smales grabs him and says, you'll get nothing and like it.
Well done mark Anna from Madison.
She's in the 608 says hi Pete and Dominic.
Oh, no Those are I'm sorry.
It's it's okay.
It's you know mistaken identity.
It's the foundation of a lot of stories They'll
put that in the
movie adaptation
right of this show.
Yes, Aaron and Dom both have those soft Soothing tones I could see why you would make that mistake Anna, but Aaron's armors is in tonight But Dom was here last night did a great job.
She says hi Pete and Dominic my favorite body of water
Uh, Wisconsin water is Rock Lake and Lake Mills.
He's an amazing, like, I feel like every answer, I should know where that is.
I don't know that area of the country or of the state.
Yeah, I don't, I don't really either.
But then again, we do have like 14,000 lakes or something like that.
So.
Oh, I can't believe I forgot to ask Frank.
He loves getting into it with Minnesota and Wisconsin and that rivalry.
I cannot believe I forgot to ask him that.
Um, thank you, Anna, for the text.
Jack from Merrimack.
Oh.
That was a phone call.
We took that Pamela from Wisconsin Rapids.
She's in the 715 says Wisconsin River.
It contains Lake Petinwell, Castle Rock Lake, Byron Flowage and more.
Beautiful flowing through Wisconsin.
I cross it twice a day to and from work.
Beautiful in the fall with trees turning colors.
Frozen over in the winter.
The islands up and down the river too.
Pamela and Wisconsin Rapids.
So I
guess it does go through Rapids.
It does.
And that was a great text.
Very.
Painted a picture for us there.
Thank you very much Pamela and then Bridget from the 818 says Macrossan Lake on the chain of lakes and Wapaka beautiful lakes great swimming great memories and a little heart emoji.
Well done.
Thank you Bridget from the 818.
Yeah, I've been Wapaka is like it's weird because when I was growing up and we would go to northern Wisconsin like Eagle River three lakes I thought that was like the place and then I met all these other people that go.
Oh, no, no
Chain of Lakes in Wapaka.
Apparently the lakes in Wapaka are so pristine, you can see like to the bottom in nine feet of water.
That's the wrap that they have there on the Wapaka Chain of Lakes.
So it's supposed to be
absolutely beautiful.
I know up north, another really nice lake is Crystal Lake.
Yes, that Crystal Lake.
Oh,
wow.
There's a Boy Scout camp, Camp Tisomus, that's on Crystal Lake, also near the Rhinelander area.
And it is the same one they filmed the first Friday the 13th at.
Wait
a minute.
They actually filmed it there?
Yes.
And at
least
that's my knowledge.
Wow.
And also, what was I going to say?
It's called Crystal Lake just because it is very clear and you can see the bottom.
And it's a really nice just
one.
Ryan Lander?
In
that area.
I
don't remember exactly where it is.
That
neighbor
of the way.
Okay.
Oh, that'd be cool.
I
feel like I would have
known that, but maybe not.
Maybe they just made it up to spook the kids.
I don't know.
That's very possible
to get tourist dollars whatever my baby was who knows Mark from prairie to sack.
Oh, here's his clarification text when he said he found a butter knife floating in the water He says it was a butcher knife damn spellchecker.
How does it would a butcher knife float?
Maybe if the handle's big enough, I guess so Jim from Appleton, he's in the 920 says favorite body of water in Wisconsin that depends on what I'm doing
If I'm fishing, it is the Wolf River.
If I'm in a sailboat, it is Lake Winnebago.
Very well done.
Very diplomatic, Jim.
Thank you, buddy.
Paul from Bayview says, uh, Devil's Lake, great trails, great views.
Do you mind googling Devil's Lake?
I feel like that's in southern Wisconsin.
Yeah, it's near Baraboo.
Okay.
All right.
Nice, Paul.
Thank you.
Uh, Catherine.
Oh, this is from Catherine's phone call.
That's still up here.
Oh, I'm way behind on text.
Susan from McFarland, she's in the 608 says, hi, I guess I would have to say my favorite two lakes are Lake Superior because I love being up in the North Woods area.
And then in the Madison area would be Devil's Lake.
Exploring the bluffs in that area is amazing.
There you go.
Good recall there, Aaron.
Thank you, Susan.
Great to hear from all of you.
It's not too late to get in on the fun.
If you have a favorite Wisconsin body of water or lake, let us know.
And we'll read your text on the radio.
I want to get back to Candy Shack because this is, oh, a quick update.
I fact checked myself.
Turns out they did make it up to Spook the Kids.
The Crystal Lake scenes were shot at a Boy Scout camp, but it was won in New Jersey.
Our legs are better than New Jersey.
Why would they shoot that?
I don't know, but I feel betrayed by the people staffing
the scout camp.
I can't believe scout leaders would lie like that.
Our lakes seem more authentic, but I also don't want to say like Wisconsin lakes seem more horrifying either.
I mean that is a horror film.
Very much
so.
All right, I want to get back to some Judge Smales talk, because I identified him as my favorite, and I think it was Jack from Merrimack said it was his favorite character too.
Judge Smales from Caddyshack, played by Ted Knight.
Because the obvious ones are Bill Murray, who played Carl the Greenskeeper.
He was bucking for promotion, though wanted to be the head Greenskeeper.
It was Mark from Prairie to Sack, actually, who said Judge Smales.
And Chevy Chase was very funny too.
So condescending, Rodney Dangerfield was hilarious.
But my favorite is Judge Smales.
I love Ted Knight.
And I think he's an absolute treasure, whether he was on like the Mary Tyler Moore show or in a movie like Caddyshack, just great stuff.
So we have a couple of clips that we'll get to for Judge Smales in just a minute.
We might have a surprise guest stopping by too after the next short break.
Do we have a call?
Well, if I didn't accidentally hang up
on
Olly in the Northwoods, please call back I didn't register me pressing the button I tried to press it's these damn Madison soundboards
Do we have time to play a should we save them or do we have time to play a judge?
We have
time to do either one.
Let's do one.
Let's this is a judge smells Classically christening his sailboat when he is interrupted by Rodney Dangerfield and his much bigger boat
It's easy to grin when your ship comes in
And you've got the stock market beat.
The man worthwhile is the man who can smile when his shorts are too tight in the seat.
Okay, Pookie, do the honors.
So great.
That's Judge Smales.
We probably don't have time for the other one.
So you said you've only seen the TV version.
Yes, I've only seen the TV version and I was definitely too young to be watching Caddyshack.
Okay.
And I had to keep asking my dad questions and, you know, he had to be judicious about which ones to answer in, in what detail.
But, you know, my, my most strong memories are, of course, when we were talking with this loop off to the side, you know, building little animals out of plastic explosives to play with the gopher and finally get him and then just blow up the whole golf course.
So great.
I mean, it's just like...
That's all we did in high school is imitate Bill Murray in Caddyshack.
So we'll have another Smales clip.
We're going to do a very short break.
We have a surprise guest who just stopped by too.
And we're going to talk about the movie F1 because you haven't seen it, right?
I have not.
OK.
So you can contribute.
You kind of, when we were just talking during the break, though, you sounded like you kind of knew we had friends that saw it.
I have friends that saw
it.
But also what they said is exactly what I expected, which is to say, eh.
Dave on the stream says, below the sock prairie dam.
Is that the river?
I don't know.
Presumably.
It's a wonderful body of water.
Share with us your favorite Wisconsin lake or body of water.
We live in a beautiful state, folks.
It is summer.
This is Night Light with Peach Wabba on a Friday.
We're coming right back and we're having fun in Madison with Aaron's Armors.
This is Peach Wabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
We did it!
It's from the soundtrack to the movie F1.
It really is.
It's great music.
Some Kong Zimmer.
I recognize it.
Oh, that's the voice of Joe Schwabba.
No relation.
Just kidding.
Hello.
Joe, how are you?
It's my son Joe.
Joining us now for the last few minutes of our live show.
Glad to be here.
It's great to have you drove over from Milwaukee.
How was traffic?
It was awful.
It was terrible.
Was it really?
between Milwaukee men.
It wasn't it wasn't bad.
It's a nice it's a nice
drive.
Yeah, it's actually very beautiful.
Yeah, we're gonna go out and paint the town in just a few minutes, folks.
I'm off on Monday.
We'll have a like a best of episode airing Monday.
And then Tuesday, we'll be back live back on the home court at UW UW I always say UW.
I mean, W GBW with
Laughable productions at Ben Giles.
Ben is running a comedy contest in Oshkosh to find Oshkosh's funniest person.
We're going to get an update.
It's a months long process.
And then my pal, and if Walls could talk host, movie break host and TravelTales podcast host, Mike Siegel will be here Tuesday night as well.
But we got great guests next week.
Matt Miller will be here.
Matt and Aaron Harris, Greg Bach will be joining the show next Thursday.
That will be fantastic.
And then Terry Barr as well.
But right now, we've got a few more minutes.
And then at 7.35, we've got Terry Barr.
That's prerecorded.
So if you have a text about your favorite lake and can get it in quickly, send it in now, folks.
But we do have Ollie back on the phone.
So let's take that call and find out what's up with Ollie.
Hey, Ollie.
Oops, I got dropped.
Yeah,
my bad.
Favorite lakes are, I love Lake Superior anywhere, basically on it.
Bayfield and Apostle Islands are just lovely.
And also the Nama Coggin River, which runs down from by Hayward,
And there's some excellent tubing, if anybody.
Oh, wow.
This has a lazy summer Sunday.
That's a great place to go.
Ollie, I think you and I, one of these days, need to go tubing together.
What do you think about that?
Oh, I think I probably drowned
now.
I'll keep my eye on you.
And
I'm betting the water is high as can be out this year.
Ollie, thank you for the call, and thanks for calling back.
Sorry we dropped the first call, but have a great weekend.
All
right, that's Ollie from the Northwoods.
Nobody said Bayfield tonight.
That's supposed to be gorgeous up there in the Apostle Islands.
I've never been.
I haven't either, but I would like to.
Yeah, same.
Maybe we ought to get a civic meeting to your road trip.
Joe Schwabba joining me for the last few minutes of the broadcast tonight.
Joe, it's good to see you, my oldest son.
You saw F1.
We talked about this a little bit.
I liked it.
Fine.
I didn't love it.
And you thought I was being too hard on it.
Explain yourself, please.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah, for sure.
Do you enjoy fun?
Fun in the movie theater?
Yes, I
do.
I had so much fun.
Yeah.
I mean,
this is like an amusement park ride.
This movie.
It
is.
I
think, I mean, everybody just heard the music.
I mean, the music will get you very pumped up.
I think it was just, you know,
a nice kind of stereotypical Hollywood
sports movie.
That's a great way to put it.
Listen, the music was great.
My issue with the music was it was wall to wall.
I don't think there's a moment in the movie where there isn't music playing.
It's like a video.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that that's kind of what it's going for though.
Just when it starts, it's really nonstop until
the
end.
I mean, look, the racing scenes were great.
The CGI was pretty cool.
I gave you that, but I just, as a movie, and it was like two hours and 45 minutes or something like that.
It was long.
It was a long movie.
I'm not saying you couldn't trim off maybe 20 minutes,
and
it might make it a little better or at least more digestible, but I don't know.
I mean, I thought it had really all the elements to, you know, it just, it got me.
It got me.
I mean, it's a great sports movie.
It kind of has all of the elements.
It has the young cocky rookie.
It has the old grizzled veteran that wants.
I mean, it's not reinventing the wheel,
right?
No, it's not.
But it's
fun.
I mean, I went with my friend and both of us agreed after the movie was over.
Like, dude, we got to go like work out or something.
We gotta go learn how to drive
we gotta go.
I mean what why did I go to college?
Why didn't I I
mean I'm gonna ask you this why didn't you get me in an F1 cockpit?
Right away
my
life could be so awesome
I'll take responsibility for that I think the coolest part of the movie for me was when they would change the tires the pit crew how fast they were that was unbelievable Yeah, that was cool.
I mean a lot of parts of the movie were cool.
I think that was cool I think the actual racing
was cool
Listen, and I don't mean to cut you off.
We're short on time.
Aaron Zomers is a huge Star Wars fan.
You're a Star Wars fan.
Oh, my
God.
He has commented on your quotes before on your... But you guys, real quick, before we get out of here, favorite Star Wars movies, you guys can do a tet-a-tet.
Man, you love framing me as the Star Wars guy when I come in.
I love it.
I mean, I'm proud of it.
I'm proud
of it.
Well, yeah, you should be.
It's a phenomenal franchise.
Yeah, tell me.
I
think I got
to say that Empire Strikes Back is probably the best.
Quality wise, but sure revenge of the Sith will always have a soft spot in my heart as the first
one I
got to see in theaters And I it's campy and I'm here for it.
Yeah, I love I mean I love watching revenge of the Sith very very watchable movie I don't know what that means, but it feels right when I say it.
I also love the Empire Strikes Back That's probably my favorite
but a super controversial
opinion.
Yeah, right like that's the right answer to
give
I think my biggest
Complaint with the whole franchise.
They killed Liam Neeson off too quick.
He was a really cool character Qui-Gon, right?
Yeah, they killed him off too
That's a nice thing about some of the other like the Clone Wars stuff is you get to explore his character a little bit more
Yeah, and I
appreciate that they they didn't I mean, it's I don't think it's Liam Neeson anymore, but it's the same character at least right.
Yeah,
I'm
awesome
guys.
This was fun Joe Thank you for getting here in time to come on the air for a couple minutes talk a little f1
Thank you, everybody.
Don't go away.
Terry Barr is next.
It's pre-recorded content.
We talked to Terry yesterday.
Zomers, thank you for a fun week, buddy.
Great working with you.
Thank you.
Joe, thanks for coming up.
Thank you.
Go watch F1.
Go watch F1.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
We're coming right back with Barman Friday night.
It's Pete Chihuahua in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Time to check out original music with Bar Band Friday on Nightlight.
Now your host, Pete Schwabba, and special guest, Terry Barr.
Oh, this is one of my favorite times of the week, folks, with one of my favorite guests of the week.
See how that works out?
It just all lines up, and it's a Friday.
It's like Christmas Day here at the end of the week.
It is my pleasure to welcome one of, as I said, my favorite guests, not just on Nightlight.
But on any show, you know what?
She's even a great house guest.
She's just a great guest.
So if you ever have her over, keep that in mind.
She's one of the hosts of Max Inc Radio here on WMBX in Madison and our Wisconsin music expert, Terry Barr joins me now for Bar Band Friday.
Hello,
Terry.
He's Friday to you, Pete, and to everyone joining us.
Yes.
Aaron Zahmer's sitting in for the K-Man tonight.
He's been a big help here too, so this is great that the three of us get to spend this time together.
And are you having a good day?
How's it going, Terry?
You know, when you hit Friday, it's always a good day, right?
Absolutely.
You know, you feel
like, OK, I have done as much as I can this week, and it's Friday.
It's Friday night.
It has to be done.
Do
you?
It's time for a break.
We were just talking before we came on about all the things you do at Civic Media.
Like, do you work on the weekends or do you work your butt off during the week and say, I'm done.
I'm taking two days.
I tend to work all the time.
Like I have no hours and I've heard that's not good, but what do you do?
What's your approach?
Yeah.
You know what?
Then you and I are the same.
I tend to also never turn it off.
The only time I really am able
to not look at my phone, not do anything on the computer, is if I'm actually far away, and that gives me the excuse that, oh, maybe my Wi-Fi isn't working right now.
It's something
like
that, or I'm off and you need to leave me alone.
No, I get it.
That makes perfect sense.
Yeah.
Well, it is a barband Friday night.
Our question, Terry, tonight is favorite Wisconsin lake.
Do you have one?
I do.
I grew up in Northeast Central Wisconsin.
So I am going to say my favorite lake is Shawnau Lake.
Nice.
Yeah.
That doesn't surprise me.
You have a
beautiful beach.
Yeah.
And a lot of really fun supper clubs and bars, restaurants all around it.
And it was one of those I remember as a kid.
Now, they're open and remodeled again and doing live music again.
So as you can imagine, it was one of my favorite spots.
They would have live music out on a dock
on Shawna
Lake.
Don't
you love that?
Yeah, that's so great.
That's a great lake and a great choice.
And again, I'm not surprised to know you have a long history there with Sean O. Hey, I have to give you another shout out too because yesterday, two days ago, I'm sorry, on Wednesday, Kaelin Cole came in again.
It just happened that she was in Madison, and she said, I have a new song dropping in two days.
Do you want to do a preview?
And I said, absolutely.
So she is so fun.
She brought her mom, who is not her manager.
We established that.
Oh, not the momager.
Not the momager.
No, but Kailin is so much fun.
And she played the song Mistreated Right, which I guess comes out tomorrow.
Actually, today, I think.
And she played it acoustically in the studio.
But then she played the produced version in a file on Wednesday night.
And what a great song.
And thank you again for introducing us.
I'm so glad that she thinks of you and to go on your show and to preview a song that isn't even out.
That is amazing.
So I guess if I want to listen to this, I need to go back to the podcast on our website on Wednesday to find
out.
Yes.
And it sounds great.
The composition of it is great.
It's very well produced.
And as you know, she's a very fun guest.
So yes, thank you so much.
She's terrific.
Yeah.
Nice.
Well, let's talk, let's get to some Barbie and Friday fun stuff here.
We've got an artist tonight that you're introducing us to, Dana Perry.
I'm not familiar with her work, but I'm sure I will be in about 10 minutes.
And I heard the songs you sent.
She's great.
Tell us all about Dana Perry.
She is just one of those that does.
everything on the music scene.
She is a teacher.
She books artists, I think they're up to three times a week now at a place known as Cargo Coffee.
It's on East Washington in Madison.
She also assists as an instructor at Girls Rock Camp and Ladies Rock Camp.
And then she just took on the new role as executive director of the Madison Area Music Association.
She's very familiar with the
because she already has won 15 of those Madison Area Music Awards, so she knows what she's doing, and she has seven original music albums out.
Wow.
Yeah, I saw that 15-time winner of the Madison Area Music Awards, she won acoustic guitarist of the year.
In 2019, Folk Americana performer of the year in 2020 and best female vocalist in 2021.
Just the name three of the 15.
That's incredible.
Right.
Here's something very fun, Pete.
You know Coldplay was in town a week ago.
Sure.
They decided to get a hold of the Madison Area Music Association and make a wonderful donation.
to the organization.
A whole bunch of keyboards, brand new keyboards, full size, still in the box.
donated to the mamas.
Dana is the one that got to go pick them up.
And we are now going to look for kids that maybe couldn't afford a keyboard, maybe a school that their keyboards are broken.
So that's really the heart of what this organization does.
And Dana is now the heartbeat of it.
She really is.
That is really cool.
And it's good to know that Coldplay is
known for something other than outing people who are cheating on each other, at least here in Madison now.
Yeah.
Oopsie.
You
know, it'd been really funny if you were unaware of what happened at the Coldplay concert a couple of weeks ago.
That would have been really funny.
You had no idea what I was talking about.
Yeah.
And I bet there still may be a few, but probably not very many.
All right.
So Dana Perry calls herself an evil folk artist.
What is
that?
I think Evo for her means she's always evolving.
You could go back and listen to really early songs and it's almost like simple folk music.
But as she started to find her groove and find what the music means to her, wow, I mean, she stepped up her guitar playing.
She has this amazing rhythm where it sounds like it's more than one guitar, or sometimes she makes her guitar sound like a drum.
So she's playing guitar and tapping on it.
I've only seen two other musicians be able to sort of pull that off.
She could do that as a solo artist, which makes her music sound that much bigger.
Or she can do it with a band that just kind of gives it that extra oomph, I would say.
Okay.
Well, let's get to a song, right?
What do you say?
Yes.
All right.
So this is Dana Perry.
We're going to play tunes and conversation first.
Is that cool?
That sounds great.
All right, fantastic.
Here is Dana Perry by way of Terry Barr on a bar band Friday night and the song tunes and conversation.
It's been singing to me and I'll sing it to you if you want me to Don't mind me It's gonna leave a few tunes right here I don't mind you Turning back to your conversation Cause I can see you tapping your toes As you carry on sipping your beer Did you notice you're not in
any time as you're chatting along?
It really does make you feel like you're in a coffee house.
That's great.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that was really fun, isn't it?
And I think in her bio on her website, it says she's just as comfortable playing a festival as she is in a coffee shop or with friends.
I mean, I just love artists like that.
Absolutely.
You know, and she plays solo, as I had mentioned to you.
She has a band as well.
And she recently formed a, they're called the Prairie Flowers, brand new.
on the local music scene, three women together and they all play instruments and the harmony I've been told is amazing.
So I can't wait to see their flowers with Dana.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how many more mommies she has in her future.
That's pretty impressive.
Lots of awards.
So we have another song of hers.
We'll play after this very short break.
Please don't go anywhere, folks.
It's Bar Band Friday Night.
Terry Barr is here.
She's our Wisconsin music expert and one of the co-hosts of Maxing Radio on WMDX here in Madison.
So we have a few more minutes with Terry when we come back and the song connection coming up right after this quick break.
This is Peach Wabba and Night Light, Aaron Zomers behind the board tonight.
This is the Civic Media Radio Network.
So
I know this Chuck Majoni, but I have to admit, this is embarrassing.
I only know, feels so good.
Honestly, me too.
Terry, do you know this song?
This one I am not familiar with.
Oh, no.
Aaron, going to the B sides.
I love it.
Hey, welcome back to Nightlight.
This is Pete Schwabba.
I'm joined tonight by my co-host here on Friday nights for this segment, Terry Barr, for Barbie and Friday Night.
And we're talking about an artist called Dana Perry.
And she's great.
We just heard the song, Tunes and Conversation.
And we should probably play this before we run out of time and then finish our discussion about Dana.
Sound good, Terry?
Sounds great Pete.
Let's do it.
So we have the song connection This is also Dana Perry and we will discuss the song after we hear it
She just like, I just kind of want to talk to her.
Is that weird?
No, not at all.
She'd probably be fun to have a cup of coffee with.
She's a good soul.
Yeah.
I love that.
Another swish, Terry.
Thank you so much for, yeah, these are great.
And if you
want to check her out, she has shows still this month.
New Glaris, Mount Horrib, Madison.
You can find more at DanaPerryMusic.com.
Any dates coming up?
immediate area here.
Yeah, all of those are still in July.
Oh, wow.
Much of July left, but new glare
is
Mount Horrib and Madison.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I got confused.
I thought you might.
Yeah,
that's.
You
were
still thinking about the conversation you want to have with
her.
These are the things I'm going to bring up, you know.
Terry, thank you so much as always.
Have a great weekend.
Try to find some time to get a little breather, will you?
You got it.
And you too, Pete.
Thank you.
And
thanks, Erin.
It's a Bar Band Friday night.
That's our Bar Band pal, Terry Barr.
Thank you also to Frank Anderson.
Check out Wisconsinology.com.
And thank you for all your texting calls.
Thank you to Mr. Aaron Zomers.
I hope you don't take any bad habits back to the Todd Alba show.
Aaron, have you been working with me?
I'll do my best.
OK.
Maybe did you develop a good habit, do you think?
I don't know.
I did stop clipping my toenails over the boards.
That's a callback from the other night.
I love it.
All right.
Thank you to Aaron Zomers on behalf
of everyone who's helped me out here this week in Madison.
Thank you so much and have a great night Wisconsin and have a great weekend everybody.