Up North, Accents, and New Beats (Hour 2)

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Up North, Accents, and New Beats (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Jul 23, 2025

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Peach Waba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who once tore his ACL playing chess, Peach Waba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Oh, what a night.

This is going to be fun.

Great to have you with me.

We are coming to you live from beautiful Madison, Wisconsin, our state's capital.

I will be here through the week.

And Conrad is holding down the fort back in Green Bay.

Have you seen anybody there today?

Is it strange being there?

Is Eliza around or somebody?

I haven't seen anyone.

You just have the whole place to yourself, don't you?

Yeah.

Kegers all in the last three days.

Great to have you with me tonight, folks.

As I mentioned, I'm live in Madison.

Conrad is up in Green Bay.

Aaron Zommers is sticking around for a few minutes, as he often does here in Madison.

It's great to have you here as well, buddy.

How you doing, Aaron?

Doing pretty well.

I mean,

when I have the studio to myself here, I usually clip my toenails over the soundboard, but that's just me.

Which soundboard?

Yes.

I said, which soundboard?

Yeah, all of them.

Okay.

Well, you got a lot of toenails.

I mean, I had 10.

That's a horrible way to start the show.

I cannot believe, now people are thinking, I mean, you, listen, you have great feet.

I will say that.

But the toenail thing, I'm sorry.

He gave me an idea.

Great.

Thank you.

What's that?

I said he gave me an idea now.

I'm gonna do it over your chair.

I

never touched that sunboard.

I'm gonna do it over your chair, not the soundboard.

So when you come back,

there's a supplier.

I always check everything too.

The people in Green Bay that work at that station are not the most hygienic group.

So I always check anyway.

But thank you to both you guys.

Hey, we've got Frank Anderson tonight, folks.

Frank will be here at 635.

He is the founder of Wisconsinology.com, a really fun guest who we have on from time to time discussing, Frank has this unique ability.

where he can tie anything that's ever happened since the history of time to Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is the center of the universe as far as Frank Anderson is considered.

So it'll be fun.

Frank always has great Wisconsin stories.

Wisconsinology.com is a great follow, a great checkout.

If you're so inclined, check it out.

He's got fun, weird stories there, historical stories, celebrities from Wisconsin, great sports stories.

It's all at Wisconsinology.com.

And we'll be talking about Davey Crockett and a mob hit that Frank tied to Wisconsin that is interesting.

So we'll do all that at 635 with our pal Frank.

And then at 735, buckle up folks.

I know we just had, when was it Conrad that we had Kailin on last?

Was it early June?

It was last time you were in Madison.

Okay, about a week ago Tuesday then.

We had Kailin was here and she is so fun.

She performed a couple songs.

She's about to drop a new single and she said, Pete, you are kind of a big shot in show business.

I want to come on your show and give your listeners a sneak preview.

of her new song.

I'm paraphrasing, but it was something to that effect.

Caitlin will be here at 735, and we are going to get a listen to her new song two days before it drops.

So that will be fun.

She'll be here in studio, which will be fun too.

And Erin, are you going to stick around for the whole show?

You said you're going to go eat?

Yeah, I'm very hungry.

OK.

Would it kill you to bring a sack lunch?

I should have.

That would have been a smart choice.

Yeah,

whatever.

You've earned it, buddy.

All right.

So, Con, I thought it would be fun tonight.

Well, I was just on John and Gordy as a guest, because they were filling in for Maggie Dawn.

I'm filling in for Maggie Dawn too, but I spell her name differently.

I spell it Maggie, D-A-W-N.

It's the dawn of a new Maggie here.

It's 6 to 8 p.m.

tonight,

so.

It's also a

soap.

What do you think?

Could that catch on?

Dawn's soap, yes.

I used it for washing my dishes.

Thank God you said dishes.

I think she's good to stick with D, A, U, and Maggie Dunn.

So Maggie will be back tomorrow, John and Gordy will be on tomorrow at their normal time, but it was fun to hang out with those guys.

And they helped me promote Conrad, my only fans page, which is starting to get traction.

You know what I think we should do?

I'm obviously joking.

Although I do think, I was just telling Zomers this before, I guarantee you there's a market for people who want to watch a middle-aged guy.

changes clothes, do his dishes, you know, look at his phone, whatever.

People are so bored and will look at anything.

So what I thought could be fun and Conrad, I need you're okay on this.

I would never, you know, volunteer you for this, but you and I should both set up only fans page and see who gets more followers.

You know what?

I think I'm okay on that.

I don't think I'll sign up for that.

There's a market for everything.

People are

freaks.

I

know.

This is radio.

What are we doing here?

Let's have some fun.

So anyway, that was fun.

And it was great to be with those guys.

John and Gordy are so much fun.

We've got a great question, Conrad.

I'm very excited.

Conrad Krieger, the K-man, is behind tonight's question of the night.

So let's give this question the best chance to succeed.

And let's go right to your nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the

question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Questions.

Where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

This comes by way of Conrad's family, actually,

I should

say.

Conrad didn't even take credit for this.

He's crediting his family.

For our question tonight, which is where does up north start in our state 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic I Kind of tease this a little bit when I was on with those guys right before the top of the hour and I think portage Wisconsin claims to be the start of northern Wisconsin John was raised in Milwaukee.

He said anything north of 94.

I think that's a bit much

I'm definitely up north.

I'm in the Marinette area.

But what do you think, folks?

What do you, the listener think?

Where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

Text us on the app, text us on the stream.

You could check us out on YouTube, Facebook or X and leave us a stream comment or the old fashioned 855-752-4842.

We will read your text on the radio.

So we had, we went out last night, Conrad, you missed

it.

I got so drunk, and I was only drinking club soda.

It took about 75 of them for me just to get a buzz.

That's

quite a hefty bill for club soda.

It was free.

It

ran out.

Hey, you know what?

They ran out of tonic.

Remember the bartender?

I said, he looks like he's up to no good.

He was putting my credit card in as I was cashing out, and he's giving me the side eye, like doing one of these.

If you're watching on the stream, you can see my brilliant acting.

And then you said, well, maybe he thinks you're up to no good.

Guess who I saw today at Chipotle?

Was it that bartender?

The bartender.

Ooh.

Way over on the west side.

And here's what is even stranger.

I said, hey, weren't you bartending at Paul's last night?

And he goes, yep.

Like, nothing.

I know we're in the same town, but Madison's not a tiny town.

That's kind of a coincidence, right?

Yeah, I would say so.

I would expect he'd be like, yeah, how's it going?

Or something just, yep.

Like, almost like he didn't want to be seen or recognized.

Well, I think so.

I don't know.

I think this all goes back to what you tipped him, you know

No, I get listen dude.

I give you a handsome tip I bought Zomers and Todd Pat Crite low left before I could buy him a drink and He's a big drinker.

So I don't want to really I don't want to spring for Pat But it was like 12 bucks and I took them like five Because he scared me.

I wouldn't think that would be upsetting for any reason.

So I don't want I don't get it.

It's just you know

Wasn't like you know what he might have thought he might have thought oh god This guy's gonna want to eat with me just because he was in Paul's club last night.

Maybe

I'm not that guy, you know, maybe

he watches you on PBS and he's like this guy

again.

Oh Good stuff So all right Frank Anderson at 635 Kalin Cole the remarkably talented Kalin Cole at 735 we

You know what's funny?

I was talking to my daughter who was home for the summer and Did you guys do this when you went to college?

She said they go play bingo So she we're talking about bingo at Steven's point They have these bingo games and they're you know bingo is fun.

You go with the group.

It's good time and Then the next day somebody brought up bingo He said do you guys play bingo and my daughter said I played in college Sport or something.

Yeah, I was

on

the bingo team

I played a little bingo in college.

I can't say that was a thing where I went to school, although they did try to make it a thing during the pandemic where they were like,

all right,

we can't do any dorm activities because everyone has to stay in their rooms.

So what we're going to do is have you all open your doors.

We hand out sanitized, like pre-packaged bingo sheets and the stampers.

And then we're going to call out the numbers and then you just yell out into the hall when you get a bingo.

It was weird and we want a pizza and they never gave it to us.

That is weird.

Where did you go?

Lawrence University in

Appleton.

Oh yeah, right.

Oh, that's

great school.

You paid Bukku Dolores to go there.

Yeah.

What years were you there?

If you don't mind.

If that's too personal, you don't

have to answer that.

2017 to 2021.

But I did not graduate because going during the pandemic and playing a trombone

while wearing two

face masks.

one with a hole in the middle, and you pull down the one without a hole, so you can play your trombones through the one with the hole, and you have a cover over the bell, and you can only have like six people in the room anyway.

It was like, you know what, I'm not gonna do this right now.

I don't blame you.

They wouldn't even let you blow into the trombone without a mask?

Nope.

It seems like if you want, it's your trombone, if you want to give your trombone COVID, you should be allowed to do that.

Well, you are blowing spit through it everywhere.

That's true.

My cousin Brian Murphy whether that's why I was asking I think he was there before you son of Pat Murphy no relation Dodger the Dodgers manager the Brewers manager.

I think they're tied now right Conrad the Cubs and the Brewers are tied again

No, the the

Cubs lost today in the Brewers one.

Oh, did they really

the Brewers one handsomely?

That's why you

can't keep up with baseball.

I just got this information last night.

They've already played today and now it's old news

Now the Brewers are back to first place in all of MLB.

Yeah,

we'll see what happens

Uh, yeah, it was fun watching the game.

It's going to be a fun.

The rest of the summer will be a blast.

It's, it's fun.

That's when baseball is fun to me is when there is a race for the pennant and it's close because the games aren't, it's not like they're as exciting as football, but the actual race for the playoffs is a blast.

I think, uh, do we have time to play that Barry Sanders clip?

Conrad?

Uh, yeah, yeah, we do.

Let's do that.

This is Barry Sanders.

And I just found this last night on reels.

He was such a class act.

And they were asking him why he didn't go crazier, have a touchdown celebrate.

And I'm not against touchdown celebrations.

I kind of like them when they're decent.

But I also liked guys like Walter Payton who would give the ball to the linemen to Spike or Barry Sanders.

And this is what Barry Sanders had to say, famous Detroit lion about why he didn't do a crazy dance when he scored.

Why did you never feel the need to celebrate a score?

I thought, um, after scoring, you know, a lot of times it takes a lot of energy.

Um, so I always thought, you know, I had done enough just by, just by getting to the end zone, especially in the NFL.

So there was, you know, and plus I'm not a great dancer anyway, but, um, but, you know, there was, there was nothing left to do, um, you know, but, but to hand the ball to the ref, um, you know, and put six, six points on the board.

That's a great answer.

Love Barry Sanders.

That guy left hysterically.

Barry Sanders said that.

That was kind of funny.

I know.

That

was a bit much.

And Barry Sanders is a fine dancer.

But our question of the night, folks, be part of the fun.

Where does Up North Start in Wisconsin let us know?

And we will read your text on the radio.

You can also text us on the stream or on the app.

And Dave on the stream says the 45th parallel, which I think is also, isn't that a bar?

I guess we could start at a bar.

What do you say, Conrad?

This is your

family that

came up

with this

question.

I really do think it's location-based where you live in Wisconsin because when I lived in Milwaukee in Kewaskam, I thought Green Bay was up north.

And now that I live here, I don't feel like it's that much up north.

It's tropical.

Yeah,

you know.

Yeah.

I would

probably say

29.

29.

That's Tashano, right, from Green Bay.

I think that's the road you take.

I would agree with that.

I would also say maybe Wausau.

We'll

discuss

all of this.

We're gonna discuss all this.

We're gonna read your text and when we come back We'll have a lot of fun Aaron Zombers is here folks assisting Conrad and myself It's peach wabba in nightlight on the civic media radio

network

Welcome back.

I am Pete Schwabba.

This is Nightlight.

We are broadcasting from beautiful downtown Madison on a gorgeous little steamy hot summer night.

I don't want to brag, but I played a little bingo in college.

We had a bingo team.

We

didn't have one at UW-Milwaukee.

So stupid.

I played a little bingo in college.

What do you say to like I've had people come up to me and say like you know back when I was in better shape You know cuz I'm a mountain of muscle they'd say hey did you play but I wasn't a huge guy So they hey you look like you could have played a little d3 football in college, and I'd be like yeah, thanks, but How do you do like how do you bingo is just all luck?

Hey, you look like a lucky guy.

You're played bingo in college It's like saying you could play

roulette

You look like you can play, right?

You look like you're looking.

I had two today.

I was on customer service.

This drives me bananas.

I'm sure I've talked about this before on the show at some point, but if I hear one more time, we are experiencing longer than usual hold times.

If every time I call that's played, that is the usual hold time.

Hire some people and have better customer service.

Don't give me that BS.

We don't know what happened.

We're never this busy.

You are every time I call.

And I end up holding for 17 minutes.

It's ridiculous.

Conrad, will you Google the Better Business Bureau?

Yeah, sure.

Take a memo.

Our question tonight, folks, is where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

John and Gordy had good answers.

John said just north of 94.

And in Milwaukee, I think that's not correct.

I think you have to go a little farther north than that.

So I would say Wausau.

Zommer said Highway 29.

You said Green Bay when you were a kid, but you think that's not true now.

Yeah, I feel like, you know, would you consider any part of Door County up north?

Yeah, I would.

I think north of... Really, I'll say north of Green Bay, really.

Yeah, and I'm only saying that because I live in that area kind of too, but I don't know it's all relative I guess right

I feel like Because I just went there this past weekend and when I was there kind of feels like it's up north like Because the towns aren't as big, but they're two or three two or three and then you know,

yeah,

I do like a carver though.

That's a that's a great town

Oh, I loved our county.

All of our county is gorgeous.

Even on the lakeside, I think the Bayside is a little prettier, a little more picturesque, but the Lake Michigan side has its own charm.

Before we read these texts, we got to play catch up here because overnight, well, this actually came in yesterday from our Paltoni Zimmerman yesterday who texted it.

We either missed it or it was when we were off the air and it was what poster was on your wall.

your bedroom wall when you were growing up.

Some people said Farrah faucets.

A lot of people said sports figures.

Conrad had a sports shrine in his bedroom.

I had Catherine Bach and Walter Peyton.

I had varied interests.

Tony Zimmerman, Civic Media Zone says, what do you mean was, doesn't everybody still have a poster of Bob Dole their bedroom wall?

And not only did Tony have a picture of Bob Dole on his bedroom wall, he had young Bob Dole.

before everything started to sag.

That's a great poster, Tony.

I don't really think Tony has that up on his wall.

And then we had, we missed one overnight Conrad.

Where was that text?

We got a text overnight because we were talking about a friend of mine who heard back.

He put an offer in on this apartment.

He said, would you take lower?

He contacted the landlord to try to see if she would accept his bid.

And she said something like, I can't talk.

She said, I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to you.

I've been running poop.

And overnight, we got a text from Cesar in Madison who thinks she meant I've been running.

I'm pooped.

That makes sense.

Still a weird response.

I don't think you ever put poo in a business text in any context, even if it's just part of a word.

Funny that way.

Thank you, Caesar, from the 608.

Much appreciated.

Our question tonight is, where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

And Cam from Appleton had a little fun with Photoshop and gave me a really tall forehead.

And I think he means that, like, that's where Up North starts in my head.

Cam, get another hobby, will you?

Making me look funny.

Your head's

starting to look like a thumb there.

That's huge.

Chris Casper.

He's in the 608, our pal Casper says, Tomahawk.

Yeah, that's definitely up north.

Beautiful area, vacation land.

Maryland from Columbus says Portage has a sign that reads, where the north begins.

You know, Gordy said that before the new, when they were on for Maggie, when I was a guest on their show.

And I think those guys disagreed with that because Portage is only like, what, 20 minutes from Madison?

Yeah.

But you could argue that the Wisconsin Dells are north because a lot of people from the south go to the Wisconsin Dells, whether it's southern Wisconsin, northern Illinois, whatever.

The Dells just seems north because it's like vacation land.

Thanks, Marilyn.

Steve from Florida, Conrad's Pop, says, I have always thought that once I get past Wausau, I'm passing the mark on my journey up to northern Wisconsin.

Yeah, I agree.

That's for me too, Steve.

I think Wausau is a good equator, so to speak.

Casper again says, get off my lawn, shake's fist in the air.

Maybe Casper was texting kids that were actually on his lawn instead of yelling at them from the porch.

What do you think of that one, Con?

I think he was talking about your complain about.

About

what?

About service.

Maybe

he's really shaking his fist at me there's some tension brewing between me and Casper Remember the other night.

I said I thought I think I could take him I'd hit him fast and I did him low count read

I don't

Casper would not know what hit him.

I don't believe in you.

He can't sound engineers way out of that one We'll give worry more of your texts throughout the course of the show.

Where does up north start?

in Wisconsin and Chris Casper for the love of God.

I hope you know I'm kidding.

We're coming right back with Wisconsinology.com founder Frank Anderson.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Welcome

back.

Great to have you with me on this beautiful Wednesday night in the state of summer, also known as Wisconsin.

Just a beautiful night statewide here.

Is it nice there Conrad?

I could use one of your weather

forecasts.

There's an overcast now is raining.

I heard some thunder.

It is dark now at 6 30 in Green Bay.

Yeah.

Oh, I just literally check my weather app.

What is going on with Apple weather?

I think Krieger weather is where it's at.

Yeah, I've been it's it's hard to hear that.

Yeah, I just turned dark 20

minutes

ago.

Yeah.

All right.

Do you feel do you feel safe?

I do feel safe in the WGPW studios.

Let's know if we need to call some honor.

Call a priest or whatever.

Okay, folks, this is fun.

We've got a great show tonight.

Our question is, where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

We've heard a few different places, Portage.

John Peterson thinks anywhere north of I-94 in Milwaukee.

I say north of Green Bay or Warsaw.

And there's been a few other answers, but text us and let us know at 855-752-4842.

We will read your text on the radio.

You can text us on the stream or the app, but be part of the show.

It's always more fun when you guys participate right now.

Actually, at 735 too, this is a cool thing.

Kaylin Cole will be here.

We are getting a preview of her new song that drops in two days, a sneak peek or a sneak listen.

Conrad, are you excited about that?

I actually listen to it already and it's amazing.

I have not listened to it yet, and I have not listened to it on purpose.

So I'm excited.

I'm preparing to be dazzled.

And Katelyn will be here in studio.

Listening with us.

It'll be really fun.

But right now it's always a thrill to welcome my next guest He is a rena a showbiz renaissance man as I call him.

He is the founder of wisconsinology.com which is a wealth of Infotainment about our awesome state.

He's a director a producer and an incredible musician and he joins us now Frank Anderson.

Hey, buddy G rover

Kripe

I promised I wouldn't swear anymore.

So now I'm going to only swear in 1850.

Well, that'll work.

Dead

gummit.

Yeah.

I like those old-time swear words, Frank.

Those are fun.

Oh, gosh, all Potomac.

They're great.

How are you, buddy?

Oh, really good, really good.

Are we going to talk about my complicated hero?

Yes, but I want to say, I want to preface this by saying to the listeners that Frank Anderson folks has the uncanny ability to tie anything that's ever happened since the history of time to Wisconsin.

It's an incredible talent.

And it's all factual.

It's all factual.

Absolutely, Frank.

Let's start with Davey Crockett.

I saw this, and if any of you get a chance to follow Frank on social media, he's a great follow, and check out Wisconsinology.com.

That's where I saw your post about Davey Crockett, a new statue in Nina.

He joins Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin.

How do you tie Davey Crockett to Wisconsin other than the statue?

I cannot.

Davey Crockett to Wisconsin.

What?

Yes, you hit his heel.

I love the Crocket, and I know a lot about David Crocket.

Hey,

Frank.

Hey, Frank, hold on a second.

We're having a connection issue.

Conn, should we try him back?

Yeah, I'll give him a call back.

He's kind of coming in and out.

I think we have a bad connection.

Maybe we just need to reestablish or something.

But we'll get Frank, because I don't want to.

I don't want to miss a word Frank says, so we'll get, we'll reconnect with Frank and see if we can do a little better there.

So yeah, there's a new Davey Crockett statue in Nina, and I saw this on Frank's Facebook page.

There's also a Thomas Jefferson statue and a Ben Franklin statue.

So Frank has a complicated relationship with Davey Crockett, and I cannot wait to hear about it, but until we get Frank back, I'm going to read...

a couple texts.

Our question of the night is where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

I say North of Wausau because I feel like Wausau is kind of Up North, but it's still like, I don't want to use the word civilization, but because it's kind of, you know, Wausau is a decent sized city, but it's still up there.

So I'm going to say Wausau.

Conrad said North of Green Bay.

Conrad's mom, Paula Krieger, chimes in her area code.

For those of you listening is 920.

She says anything north of Green Bay.

Krieger family is in agreement.

Jim from Appleton says traditionally up north begins at Highway 29.

Having lived in Appleton and Rhinelander, I'm more inclined to say Highway 10 is where up north begins.

That's interesting.

You can go west on 10 from Appleton to like Wapaka, Wisconsin Rapids.

He says Stevens Point is way is.

Oh, he says Stevens Point is up north in my world.

Okay.

That sounds good, Jim.

I can go with that.

Chris Casper answering our question from last night, what poster did you have on your bedroom wall when you were growing up?

He says, Michael Jordan Wings poster.

I don't know what that is, Chris.

I assume just a, just a Michael Jordan poster, but I don't get the Wings thing, but always good to have Casper be part of the show and I will stay off your lawn, Chris.

Tony the trucker from the 608 says Pete you John and Gordy need to do more shows together great radio well thank you Tony the trucker I appreciate that he says for some up for some up north starts at the first town they come to whose name they struggle to pronounce fun to hear how they butcher the names that's true you get a lot of those like Indian or Native American names and I don't know some of them can be tough that's a good way to put it though thank you Tony thank you for the compliment

Listening in the 715 I believe anything above highway 8 is unquestionably up north with the stretch of 51 north of wasa being sort of the sort of the gateway to the north woods The dels gets honorable mention.

I agree.

I think the dels is up north just because So many people go there from further south and it just seems like I kind of equate up north in Wisconsin with vacation land because as a kid I went up to Three Lakes and Eagle River a lot

So I would say, I would say the Dells too, because it just sounded like it was up north.

Tom from Minona says, Hey Pete, up north starts at Wausau.

If you start a fans, if you start an only fans thing, you can sell some of Pete's junk candles.

Oh man.

Good memory, Tom.

Because I was talking about Gwyneth Paltrow.

She had a, I don't know, was it a perfume or something that.

She tried to capture the essence of her private parts the scent if you will So I was gonna I was gonna try to compete with her But I wouldn't do that to the general public.

I wouldn't release a product that smells like really any of my body parts Thank you for your thanks for remembering Tom Conrad Conrad how we doing with Frank?

I Think the overcast is interrupting a little bit.

Oh, no the weather.

Yeah

Because

I can only

get one ring for his phone and so

can he do can we get him on the stream somehow?

I'm gonna try my best

Yeah, text him and see if he can do the stream.

We'll figure this out Susan from McFarland says greetings gentlemen always a good show enjoy listening to you almost daily actually Well, thank you Susan great to have you she says up north depends on if you live in Illinois Which might be the Madison area or if you live in Madison it might be the black Falls

Black River Falls area.

Yeah, really Wisconsin.

Like, when I was a kid, Wisconsin just sounded like this mecca of beautiful vacation land.

The whole state, just the word Wisconsin.

It's always been kind of a sort of a paradise word for me, dating back to my childhood, because we didn't even care where we were going in Wisconsin.

We were going pretty far up north, but we just knew it as Wisconsin.

So that's a great way to put it, Susan.

She says, anyway, keep doing the job you're doing.

Also, I called about my printer.

And they said, I had a 57 minute wait time that can't be.

Wow, I feel bad for complaining now, Susan, because I had like an eight minute whole time or, and I think I ended up holding for 17 minutes, but 57 minutes, they should have more people standing by to help with ink cart problems, I think.

Thank you for the text.

Janet from Madison, she's in the 608.

When I drive up to Eagle River, I start getting up north vibes around Stevens Point, but I think it really starts at Wausau in my opinion.

Great question.

Thank you, Janet.

We owe this question to the Krieger family.

Conrad, you should have taken credit for this one.

Your family's getting all the credit.

Yeah, I should have, because it was my brother's idea.

It's not too late to throw them under the bus.

I know you have issues with your family sometimes.

Are they in the air?

John Murray from Madison answering last night's question says Farrah Fawcett, yes.

Farrah Fawcett was on my wall too, John, and in my heart as a 10 year old boy.

I don't even know why I liked her then.

I was kind of too young to have a crush on someone, but I did.

Lance from Jefferson, he's in the 224.

He says the trees change starts at Wausau.

All right, that's a good one too.

That's good, Lance.

I think Wausau's our winner so far, Con.

John Murray from Madison says Point Beach State Forest is the first thing that is up north.

Can you go to the Google?

Where is that Point Beach State Forest?

Conrad, are you still here?

Yes, I am.

I thought you took a powder.

It says it's in Two Rivers.

I would say Door County, and Two Rivers is just south of Door County, a little bit south of Door County.

John says, above it, you will die without shelter.

Above it, you will die without shelter.

What's he talking about?

The wilderness?

The wilderness, yeah.

The bears, the ticks.

Okay.

I'm an inside guy.

I'll take his word for it.

How we doing with Frank?

Do we need 86 Frank's visit?

I hope not.

I think that the weather is, because I can only get one ring to his phone.

What?

Yeah.

Oh, Frank said, he just texted me.

Storm problems can't get through.

All right, we'll adjust.

That's too bad.

All right, we'll reschedule Frank or we'll keep trying.

Maybe if he has an internet signal, we can get Frank on the stream.

We'll see what happens.

But our question of the night, folks, is where does up north start in Wisconsin?

Most people seem to think Green Bay or Wausau.

Mark from Prairie to Sac says, when you get north of where 94 goes west from Eau Claire, I grew up in Douglas County and now live in Southern Sock County.

Yeah, that's definitely north.

up there when you get up north of... That's the 94 that's up north, John, not in Milwaukee.

North of 94 in Milwaukee is not up north.

Lance from Jefferson says, Black River Falls, Wausau, Pestigo.

He just drew a line across the state.

That's a pretty good line.

Yeah, that's a good one.

All right, we'll keep trying to get Frank.

We'll see how we do.

And I see, I love when people, you guys are always welcome to chime in about anything, whether it's...

You know hold times like I was complaining about before if you played bingo in college and you want to brag about your old bingo days If you were a standout bingo player, you're welcome to do that But chime in on anything we're talking about I'm gonna tell you guys about what I've been watching a new show on Netflix and I liked it and I'll give you a little rundown after the break and we'll read more of your texts and You know what I want to play too is that Nick Offerman clip.

That was great.

Yes.

Yeah, that one.

Yeah, that was great and then the Seinfeld Seinfeld did a classic episode

I saw an interview with Jerry recently where he said they never killed off a character on the show And he felt like you know it was kind of an edgy show So they felt like they should do that and they were wondering if they could get away with it Well, they did it and we'll play that clip coming up too if we can't get Frank because it's very funny and it's George at his best and

We'll do that after the break.

We'll see if we can get Frank.

We'll read more of your texts.

We got a lot going on here tonight.

Kaelin Cole is here at 735.

We're getting a sneak preview of her new song.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Radio Network.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwab, but this is Nightlight.

Right after I said it was a gorgeous night in Wisconsin because my app was wrong and it's beautiful here in Madison, you tell me there's like this incredible storm in Green Bay and it cost us a guest.

It did.

Do we have Frank back?

Yeah, he was in and then he's he's gone and

now

I think the internet might have went out He's so in he's out.

I think we just reschedule it and have him

for the full time

next time

I have so many questions for Frank.

I will figure it out.

Maybe we could book him Friday Yeah,

I'll email him

We'll figure it out.

You have now you're not here Friday Conrad's taking a couple days off the next two nights, right?

So we'll have Zomers here or Dom, right?

It's I believe that it is Aaron on Friday and Dom tomorrow

All right Because I had these great questions.

I want to talk about this Davey Crockett statue in Nina and I finally stumped Frank I I said he was the guy that could tie everything That has ever happened in the world to Wisconsin somehow and he's very good at doing that, but I did

I did stump him right before we lost him.

He said, I can't tie Davey Crockett to Wisconsin, other than the fact that there's a statue of him now in Nina.

So, all right, well, Frank Anderson, we will, we'll get you back somehow, buddy.

And sorry to our guests, because Frank is a good guest.

Okay, so we, our question of the night, folks, is where does up north start in Wisconsin?

Most people seem to think it's around Wausau, Green Bay, right in that nape of the way, neck of the woods.

I kind of agree with Lance.

This was a great text.

He said, Black River Falls, Wausau, and Pestigo.

You can just kind of draw a line across the upper, maybe the 67th percent north of the state line, if that's a technical term.

Joel from Madison, that's the 608, says north of Highway 8 is north in quotes.

Yep, I could agree with that.

Well done, Joel.

Daniel from Anasha, our pal Daniel says,

He says, was just standing outside watching the cold and warm fronts collide, saw some swirling, but no funnels.

I know tornadoes are horrendous to have ripped through your town, but part of me so wants to see one in person.

Anyone else have that odd wish?

I do not.

Think you're on an island, everybody.

I definitely don't.

Especially not while I'm standing on my front porch.

There was a video that went viral a couple of months ago of this woman

or girl yelling at her parents to get in the basement.

And they wanted to stay upstairs in the living room and look out the picture window at the tornado.

They could see it like across the street.

And she was yelling at them violently to go to the basement.

And they opted to watch the tornado.

You're not alone, Daniel.

It just won't be me keeping you company.

Everett from Sun Prairie says, hey Pete and Conrad, sorry if it's already been pointed out.

I'm late to the party, but as I understand it, north of Highway 8 is the accepted position of up north.

Although I like to think of the three bluff-like cutouts along the highway as the gateway to the north woods when I'm headed up to the lake.

Yep, Highway 8 is another one.

We've heard that before.

You're not late to the party.

Everett, great to have you.

We have heard a couple other people said highway eight as well.

So that's a good answer Everett added.

Oh, someone just got it.

Yes.

He heard us read the other text So we'll be careful out there folks if you're in the Fox Valley or northeast Wisconsin Watch where you're going and if you really want to see a tornado Go to Daniel's house.

I think that's a little crazy.

Let's uh, come let's play that clip So we're very polarized folks and I know sometimes I've never been one of those people that's like, you know

Yes, I've been in showbiz my whole adult life, but I've never been one of those people that's like, you know, we have all the answers, but you know, our opinions are as important as anybody else's in society.

So I don't like when people say sports figures shouldn't speak up or entertainment people shouldn't speak up or whatever.

We're all entitled to our opinion.

Nick Offerman has a great one.

This is him just talking about us being polarized, and I think it's a great clip.

In our world right now, there is a lot of divisive rhetoric, a lot of our information streams make money off of turning us against each other in as binary a way as possible.

Whatever you think you should be shaking your fist at some other people who don't think that.

and you should sign up to our channel to find out more about who you should shake your fist at.

And I think the way through that is through familial affection and community and understanding that we are all neighbors.

We're all sharing these natural resources with each other.

And so instead of encouraging violence or lethality or machismo, we should encourage affection

for each other and all things, even vegetarians.

I mean, talk about, and that's what comedians bring to the table.

The guy makes a great point and then ends it on a joke.

And I know there's a lot in the news, and I haven't really gone into the cold bear thing too much, but...

He's an incredible talent, and I'm going to miss him.

I don't watch his show every night.

I saw it sporadically, and mostly I would just watch clips online.

But we need people who can make light of these times.

And that was great.

I love that clip from Nick Offerman.

We've got a couple of Seinfeld clips, too.

We'll play after the news.

Our question of the night is, where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

Conrad, you got to give you a tip of your head to your family.

It's a good question.

Yeah, I'm thinking, you know,

Kenosha maybe.

You can change your answer.

Kenosha for sure.

I say Racine.

He gets Stuart Waddles on the blower.

Let's ask him.

He's our guy in southeast Wisconsin.

Tony the trucker says, Pete missed last night's question.

The three Stooges and Marilyn Monroe on the stream is great.

So Tony the trucker had

We'll read more of your texts after intermission.

Act 2 is coming up next.

Maybe we'll get a surprise guest.

Maybe we'll just keep playing clips and talking about our texts.

We're having a great time here at Nightlight.

And I'm going to tell you about a show I'm watching.

I teased it before, but now I'm serious, folks, after the news.

That's coming up.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

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And now a guy who prefers to travel by catapult, Pete Chwaba.

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I am Pete Schwabba.

This is a Wednesday I'd say a beautiful Wednesday night, but it is beautiful here in Madison but in other parts of the state apparently that is not the case and I think I just con got a message or missed a couple calls from Marinette where I think they just lost power because I just got a WPS notification we lose power if someone sneezes I mean it's brutal

So I don't know what's going on up there, but if you want to give us a weather report or text in how it is and you're part of the state I'd be happy to share that with people because I honestly did not know and this happened my wife is gonna be so mad because This happens every time I go out of town for like more than a few days.

They lose power I got stuck in Green Bay for three days about a year ago because of bad weather and there was no power in Marinette So I had nowhere to work So I stayed in Green Bay in a hotel for like three days

I had the heat, I had the sauna up in my wife.

She was so mad at me.

So hope everybody is staying safe wherever you are.

But we have a fun show here tonight, even though Frank Anderson, we rescheduled him for Friday.

So I would encourage all of you to come back Friday night at 6.35.

Frank will be on the show and I'm gonna ask him all kinds of stuff.

We've got a lot to discuss and he has such great stories about our state.

It'll make you shake your head at our state be proud of our state and just kind of laugh and that's what Wisconsinology.com does and Frank is a wealth of information about all of those topics, so he'll be here Friday night At 6 35 so but you know we have Kaylin Cole coming up at 7 35 She's giving us a sneak preview of her new single which drops in two days and she's coming in in person to do it which I think will be fun

We have the file.

We're going to play that.

We'll talk to Kailin and find out how this trip for her was back here to her home stage.

She is a Nashville artist now, but we've had the pleasure of having her around for the last few weeks.

And she was here the last time I was in Madison and performed live.

So tonight we get a sneak preview of her new single, which will be fun.

That's at 735.

We also talked about what part of Wisconsin identifies as up north as far as your concern.

That's tonight's question of the night.

Where does up north start in Wisconsin?

This is a good one.

We got a lot of texts tonight.

The consensus seems to be Wausau, Green Bay.

Way over like by Tomahawk, I think is what Chris Casper said.

And then we had another texture, kind of draw a line.

I think it was Everett or somebody, draw a line just across the state.

Pestigo, Wausau, it was Lance from Jefferson.

Black River Falls, Wausau and Pestigo.

Anything north of that sort of imaginary line is up north in Wisconsin.

It's all Absolutely beautiful though, but let us know where you think up north starts in our state.

We talked about that we talked about Playing bingo in college That didn't really take off the way.

I thought it would come You gave like a couple sympathy laughs, but I thought I should have got a little bit more for that

Yeah, it's been a while since I played bingo.

Yeah, it comes back to you

We also, I toyed with the idea of having a contest with Conrad to see if we both set up only fans' accounts, who would get more fans?

Now, you're the young buck, Con.

You're still kind of in shape.

You're in the perfect muscle billing part of your life, I think.

You might start strong, but I think I would catch you.

because I would do full nudity.

I don't think you should.

Do you think there are only fans pages where people don't get naked?

Like, I mean, there's probably, there are probably only fans pages where people just talk because they're bored or they're lonely, right?

You know, there's some pages, there's one time where I actually subscribed to one, but

it

was, yeah.

It was a tutorial, like a guy who would do Adobe Photoshop.

And I when I was in college I like try to learn from him and he'd have his private page at you to I paid for like a month just to get more tips and stuff

And then you went there and he was naked telling you how to use

Adobe wait a minute

That sounds like kind of a scam like you know,

yeah,

I just went to YouTube oh That is hilarious

Yeah, no listen, it doesn't have to be a naked thing.

It just could be informative Yeah, that's what only fans is a community and it's not you know, even those of us who aren't particularly Bomb shells can be on can be on only fans.

So we talked about that we thought about it would be a fun, you know kind of contest to see Listen, I'd have it's gonna take some arm twisting.

I don't think Conrad wants to do it and I'm not here to pressure anybody so we'll discuss that off the air but

We and then we had we had Frank Frank Anderson schedule we had to reschedule but Kalin Cole is coming up at 735 So there you go.

You're caught up folks.

We are kicking off act two here with more of your texts So Everett did clarify he said those three are around Eau Claire Paul from Bayview.

He's in the 414 says anywhere north of Baraboo Baraboo

That kind of surprise that's sock County, right?

That's just a like our north or something north of

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, he says my friends live on the Wisconsin River in Baraboo and it feels up north to me Well, that's that's what it is.

I think too.

It's like a mindset.

Yeah

is the up north thing Tony the trucker says Pete missed last night's question.

Oh, I already read that one He said he's got the three stooches and Marilyn Monroe On his wall and that's kind of similar to what I had working with Walter Payton and Catherine Bach and Farrah Fawcett

Everett from Sun Prairie, he says, as usual, the Offer Man has it just right.

Great soundbite.

Okay, so I sent you some stuff last night, Khan.

So you have, all right, Happy Gilmore II drops on a 25th Friday on Netflix.

You don't even have to go to the theater to see it.

So we have a clip.

What do you have?

This is Sandler talking about Happy Gilmore, though, correct?

Yes, it's him talking about why they...

chose to do Happy Gilmore 2 instead of like Big Daddy 2 or any of his other movies that he had that were popular and around that time.

Fantastic.

Alright, here's Adam Sandler talking Happy Gilmore 2.

Adam, you've had so many iconic hits from the 90s in particular.

I'm thinking, obviously, Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, Big Daddy, The Wedding Singer, so many of my favorites.

Those are some fun

days.

But why was it Happy Gilmore that you wanted to give the sequel treatment to?

Well, that's a good question.

I think old, happy.

I don't know.

We were excited about talking about a sports guy who's gotten older and is older and dealing with life.

And everybody forgets

All these superstars we worship also come home at night and have have things going on a real stuff with their families and I thought it was interesting to have happy have some heartache in his life have to try to continue on and Maybe get back to the thing you love that he ran away from

You're a samler fan and a Gilmore fan, what do you think?

I mean, it's kind of like all right.

I thought it was kind of funny that it was like he kind of answered it He

kind of answered

yeah,

I just thought it sounded like he was doing a fake voice

Yeah, no, it's so the main thing about happy Gilmore is that he wants to pay for his daughter's college in the second movie and you can see that in the trailer and That's what he means by him trying to go back to golf to try to win money For his daughter's college

Was Happy Gilmore your favorite Sandler movie?

Oh, no.

It's up there.

It's not my favorite though.

Billy Madison?

No.

Big Daddy.

It is Big Daddy.

Wedding Singer.

Is

it Big Daddy?

I love Big Daddy.

But I would say Wedding Singer is probably two then.

Then Punch Drunk Love.

That's a great

movie.

Okay, so we're talking Sandler films.

What did you think of Uncut Gems?

Because that one, I wanted to pull my hair out watching that movie.

Some people love it.

Some people hate it like you.

I'm right down the middle.

It was fine for me.

You know, it

wasn't

like something crazy to me, but I enjoy his other films better than that one.

I didn't even, like, I didn't even, it's not like I disliked Sandler in that movie.

I didn't like his character.

I wanted to punch him because he was so, you know, watching himself destruct was so difficult.

But

it

wasn't a terrible movie.

No, it wasn't terrible.

Do we have time for the, I love, this is one of my favorite Seinfeld clips.

And it's them talking about when they killed off the Susan character.

Do we have time to play that one?

Yes, we do.

Okay, so this is, Jerry sets it up and they're talking about how they never killed anyone off on Seinfeld.

But then they decided to and they were wondering if they could get away with it and they do as only Seinfeld can.

And it seemed like we should have killed at least one person.

before the series was over.

Question merely became, can you kill somebody funny?

Your character's going to die from looking envelopes.

Can I help you?

Yes, we'd like some wedding

invitations.

Oh, well, congratulations.

Thank you.

Yeah,

thank

you.

Well, we have quite a few to pick from.

They're arranged in order of price.

The most expensive are in the front.

George didn't kill Susan.

There was no intent.

He bought cheap envelopes.

I think the coldest moment ever played on a television show was the reaction of George and his friends to the death of his fiance.

Excuse me, are you the husband?

Well, not yet, uh, fiance.

Yes.

Well, I'm sorry.

She's gone.

What's

that?

She expired.

Are you sure?

Yes, of course.

So... she's dead?

Yes.

Huh.

She's, uh... gone.

Dead?

I'm... so sorry, George.

Yeah, me too.

How did it happen?

Apparently the glue in the wedding invitations was... toxic.

Well, that's weird.

So I guess...

You're not getting married But Yeah, well, I thought we'd both be getting married Hey, what can I tell you?

All

right Well, let's get some coffee

You haven't even watched Seinfeld, have you?

I thought it was hilarious that the doctor said she's expired.

I'm not saying she's dead.

She expired.

What?

And just when he says, huh, and the whole thing with them is he's back and forth.

Like he doesn't want to get married, but then he can't live without her.

It's just this hilarious relationship.

Like a lot of relationships are like that.

And you couldn't see this listening to the clip, but when she says the expensive ones are from the.

are in the front and George immediately grabs the cheap ones.

So he does inadvertently kill Susan.

And then it's funny after that because the parents hate him so much.

They know that he did something because he's George.

All right.

We're gonna do a very short break.

Then I am gonna tell you about the TV show I'm watching.

That is my vow to you to quote the great George Costanza and we will read yet more of your texts that are piling in.

It's a fun night here at Nightlight and great to have you with me.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Heaven to touch I wanna hold you so much At long last love has arrived And I thank God I'm alive You're just too good to be true Can't take my

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What better way to spend your Wednesday, folks?

However you're choosing to do it, it's great to have you.

We're having fun tonight.

We got a great question tonight, folks.

Where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

And there's a lot of different opinions, but there's also some similarities.

We've got a lot of social media texts that I have not gotten to yet, so let's get to those.

Daniel Wheeler, who also chimed in on the text line said, I consider just above Green Bay to be the beginning of Up North.

Popular opinion, Daniel?

Hope you get to see your tornado and hope you don't drag anybody else down with you.

Daniel Wheeler Conrad, an actual matchmaker.

He can't bring two people together to save his life, but he can make a match.

Yes, he can.

I actually

got him.

I

actually got him.

You can see it.

Oh, Daniel, we got your matches.

I still have them at home.

The last witch in

Wisconsin.

It's a handsome looking matchbook.

Dan Davies says, just north of Wapaka or no.

That's a guy who knows this urn all vernacular urn all Monica Hale.

Thank you, dad Monica Hale says north of highway 10 or when it starts getting flat and the trees are taller and thinner Yeah, it does is weird.

It does seem like you kind of enter into a different state when you get really far north Matt Harper rock rap artist our pal from Green Bay says north of 64.

Yeah, that's a great one too 64 goes like straight west in Marinette County

towards the middle of the state.

That's a great barrier to our boundary.

JB Thompson, the guy behind the guy, behind the guy, he says, when the sun drop signs start is where the north woods begin and up north is after they end.

Sun drop, of course, is manufactured in Chano.

Delicious sun drop.

And if you, if you do drink a sun drop, I highly recommend the real sugar sun drop in a glass bottle.

That's all you need, folks, especially if you're up north.

Rex Sykes says, north of wherever you are.

Okay, that's fair.

That's a good answer.

Thank you, Rex.

Jay Campbell says, highway eight.

We've heard a couple for highway eight and Chris Anderson says, anything north of Wapaka.

A lot of vacation homes in Wapaka, beautiful area.

My wife's family had a cottage there and that's a gorgeous area.

I would say that's up north too.

Great answers, folks.

And you can still get in on the fun.

Where does Up North start in Wisconsin?

That's our question of the night.

And we have Kaelin Cole coming up in just a few minutes, folks.

She is giving us a sneak preview of her new single.

And it's very exciting.

She came in here in person to do it, even though we're gonna play the file.

We'll talk to Kaelin, find out about how her Wisconsin trip has been.

She's headed back to Nashville soon.

And it's always great to have Kaelin on the show.

I would say, Conrad, wouldn't you say Kaelin has officially become a friend of the show?

I would say so.

Okay.

So we're in agreement there.

Yes.

Conrad's brother texted.

It's the least he could do because it's his question.

It's his question, yeah.

He says my brother, Conrad says, my brother texted me saying, highway 29.

That's a good one too.

It's all by highway.

A lot of it's by highway.

All right.

So I've been talking about the show I watched.

I mentioned it a little bit the other night, but the more I think, I have some distance from it and I like it a lot.

And it's called Untamed.

It's on Netflix, and it stars Eric Banna.

Banna?

I think it's Banna.

Eric Banna and Sam Neal, two Australian actors.

Eric Banna's had an interesting career.

He was the Hulk, or David Banner.

And he was in, what was the movie?

Was he in Argo?

He was in some, where he was like a military commando.

I think he was in the Mossad.

What was that movie?

He's had a great career.

And he's kind of one of those guys that can turn up in something bad, but then you can also, you can see him in like a blockbuster or a great film.

But he's a solid actor and Sam Neill has had a great career.

He was in the first Jurassic Park.

He was in a movie called Dead Calm, which was great with Nicole Kidman years and years ago.

Both great actors.

The show starts with two rock climbers on the side of a mountain.

And all of a sudden, a dead body falls between them and pulls their ropes and they almost get sucked down too.

And they are up in Yosemite National Park.

That's the setting of the show.

And Eric Bainer plays the federal, not park ranger, but the federal agent that oversees the park.

And it's gorgeous.

I mean, the setting alone, even on my, you know, what is it, a 55 inch TV I have in my living room, the scenery is gorgeous.

And these two climbers are up on the side of this mountain.

A body falls and that's how the show starts.

It's this hyper intense scene.

I'm kind of scared of heights So I was freaked out to begin with but this body comes out of nowhere and then the authorities get called in there's some twists and turns and The park has like this community.

There's like a small town near the park people that live in the parks as a group of hippies that live in the park anyway pretty solid show I think there's seven up.

I think there's six episodes and

Every one of them is good, and the relationships are good.

I highly recommend it.

You gonna watch it Conrad?

Based on my recommendation.

I'm in the middle of a show, so maybe after.

What's the show?

Stick?

Actually, I just finished that today.

The finale came out

today.

How was it?

Thumbs

up?

Thumbs down?

Thumbs up.

Big thumbs up.

Really?

Yeah, really.

And not just because you're a golf fan or was it a good show?

I really enjoyed the last episode.

Okay.

I'm actually watching Upload, though, which is the Amazon Prime that came out three years ago, and the final season is coming in August, so I'm getting prepared.

I'm in season two now.

Okay.

That's good.

Oh, it's fantastic.

What's the genre?

Sci-Fi.

Upload is like, when you die, you can get uploaded into a virtual reality, like your conscious goes to an AI.

Okay,

and one guy dies and his girlfriend puts him into the program, but he was murdered

Therein lies the caper the mystery, right?

He's

just trying to

figure out who killed him.

I'll check it out.

All right This is exciting folks after the news Kalen Cole will be here We're gonna hear her new song and she is always just a blast to talk to I'm hoping Conrad

I've asked her to do the British accent.

I don't know if she will, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

She's as entertaining as she is talented.

So we're coming right back with Kaelin.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.

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Network.

I would find if I met you, let my eyes caress you.

Until I meet the dawn, this is Princess Who.

I often wonder what makes her work.

This is Night Light, and you are listening to the Civic Media Radio Network, and it is so great to have you with me tonight.

We are coming to you live from Madison tonight all week, and it is a gorgeous night here.

I understand they're having some weather up north, but it's sunny and 70 in the studio because Kailin Cole is here.

The up-and-comer, what do you call yourself?

Are you an up-and-comer, or have you

arrived?

Okay.

That works.

Yeah.

We

said, we said that Kailin is a, oh, other Mike.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Okay.

I think we have to switch mics.

Yeah.

The one on the other side of you, Pete,

on the other side of me.

Oh, can you mind coming around here?

So she just dropped gold.

And I don't know if we can recreate that for the audience, but we'll do it our best.

All right, we're having some technical.

I'm not a tech guy.

Oh, that's...

Hello, hello.

...Kalen,

that's awesome.

Now we've got Kalen Cole, folks.

This is

better.

Emerging artist Kalen Cole.

Now I have to scoot over, too, which I'll do.

So we can have you on camera and live on the stream here.

Perfect.

She joins us here at Nightlight.

You've officially become a friend of the show.

Yes.

How does that feel?

I love it.

I

love it.

I hope we're friends of yours.

Oh, yes.

Do you talk about us when you go to Nashville?

Yes, I do.

Do you ever, like, in the middle of your set go, you know, there's a radio host up in Madison.

It's a pretty special guy.

I've been on a show

a few times.

My friend, Pete.

No, but I can.

Would

it kill you to work me into conversation?

No, they're all gone.

All right, great good.

Kaelin Cole is here.

She's been on the show many times.

She's immensely talented, Nashville-based singer-songwriter.

And how has your trip been here?

How long have you been here in Wisconsin?

This is your home state.

Yeah.

And you did some shows.

How did it go?

It went well.

My friend Lexie Lou was actually supposed to be with me.

Oh.

But so I have three shows this coming week.

And I just got up here yesterday.

last night.

And so I'm

so glad we were able to do this.

But yeah, she was supposed to be here and her dad ended up passing away.

Sorry to hear that.

Yeah, but she's a strong cookie.

She'll get through it.

She's

been on the show too.

You guys

were in Green Bay with me

one night

and you guys played and she was outstanding.

Yeah, she's phenomenal, but I

It's always good to take time for yourself, especially with things like that.

So she's with her family, which is the best decision, I think, for her.

And I'm still going to, if anybody listening, that if you're coming to shows that I have posted, I'm...

doing 50% of the tips are going to Lexi's family.

So I'd love to help support her, you know, in this time.

So...

Well, give her our best.

She's always

welcome

back on the show, too,

with or without you.

She's

a very talented and lovely person.

So you keep seguing into these accents.

I don't know what to do with it.

I love your

British accent.

I don't know what to do with it either.

I don't know what I'm doing.

Was that in New

York?

I have no idea.

It's uh, it's it's we have

to think about it's Kalen speak.

Yeah, I guess it's a Yeah, the bridge stick with

the British though.

I can do I

did

let's go to

British

talk about

your new song in a British

accent.

Oh, man, okay If anything happens like in two three years, they're totally gonna dig this up and they're just gonna repost it on Twitter or something Oh, this is gold.

This is gold apparently but so it's new song

It's kind of Australian.

Um...

We're in Wisconsin, we don't know what

this is.

I know.

That's true.

This new song is called Mistreated Right.

Yeah, this is totally an Australian accent.

Now I'm nervous.

Now I can't get out of it.

Now I think you

should be serious because your music is so great.

Oh, thank

you.

So you can

shelf the British accent.

Just tell us about this great new song.

It's fantastic.

Tell

us everything.

So it's called Mistreated Right.

It's a play on words.

I love writing like double entendres or play on word kind of songs.

I sat down with my friends, Micah, Kennedy, and Jared Morris.

And they're two like...

like manly men and I was like I want to write a song about treating a girl right and they're like um okay so we put our heads together and we came up with this really cool Kelsey Ballerini inspired country song um I wouldn't think that this was like my first choice of music stylistically but it's really fun and I've also started started

or stopped putting myself in a box, I guess, of like, this

is how

I should sound or

whatever.

And so I was like, you know what, this is a really fun song.

It's very summery, very fun to like, make fun videos with, because as an artist, it is sometimes tiring to lip sync to your song and

post it

on social media and be doing what everybody else is doing.

But if the song's fun, it's a lot easier to do that.

So I've found myself actually enjoying it here and there.

Do you have a video

for the song?

I do

do you

not a music video But just like a video that I've a 30-second clip or whatever multiple of them.

Are you gonna do like a video like a full-blown?

We'll see I don't know I Funded this myself.

I have a couple of other songs coming out this summer, but

if it's in the budget, why not?

So.

You gotta find that up-and-coming filmmaker who can do something cool for cheap that still looks amazing.

Yeah, that would be awesome.

It's gonna help in each other out.

Yeah, definitely.

So, we're, well, should we hear the song and then talk about it?

Let's do that.

Sure.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, Kailin Cole is here in the studio doing various accents, but the silliness has to stop because we have this amazing song.

She's giving us a sneak preview here.

And this is called Mis-Treated.

Mis-Treated Right.

Mis-Treated Right, and you're hearing it here on Nightlight.

Here's a sneak preview of our friend Kaelin Cole's new

song.

Took some time, but I

Very well done.

I love that

song.

It's so fun to listen to it like you perform that when you've been on the show previously with an acoustic guitar

and

there's something I have a soft spot for any performer just with a voice and an acoustic guitar.

I think it's pure beauty, but That the composition is so good Who did that?

So great.

Who did you work with a producer?

No

collaborative effort.

Yes.

Yeah

Kate Malone is my producer in Nashville and her husband Devin Malone has been on tour with like the Rascal Flats.

What's his name?

Hunter Hayes and just a bunch of people in Nashville.

And he's played he played the Today Show in New York today.

Yeah.

Nice.

And so they sat down and I've

I've had them do a couple of songs before, but they ended up doing what's called a pre-production meeting with me.

And so we wanted to, we hit the studio for five songs in one day with these grade A musicians in Nashville and just told them like, hey, this is what this song is supposed to sound like.

And we had talked about that in our pre-production meeting.

So we were able to get the sound correct.

before even hitting in the, getting in the studio.

Cause you only have, you know, like six hours to record.

So I was like, I want to upbeat a summer feeling bop, just something like empowering women or even men too.

Like, you know, if you're not treated right in a relationship, like get out of it.

What

are

you doing?

And then just wanted it to be like Kelsey Ballerini inspired.

So that's kind of what made mistreated, right?

And I just love, I love the banjo in it.

It's so fun.

It's just, it's a really fun song.

Thank you.

And it was, like I said, when you performed it with the acoustic guitar in the studio, it was great too, but yeah, it's really just a lot going on from the composition.

And what do you do when you have a producer who might suggest stuff and you really respect that producer and you need that producer as an artist?

I like to me, you know, you have the song, you have the guitar, that's really all you need.

But to take a song to another level, you work with these people you respect, and what do you do if they suggest something that you don't like?

I just, I'm

honest.

It's all about relationships, right?

And like cultivating and maintaining them.

So I've got a great relationship with my producer.

I love her.

And sometimes we'll even go her route.

We were actually in the studio the other day for the last song that is kind of on a project that I'm working on.

We were talking about the composition of it, her and her husband, who's like kind of like the music director for it.

And they were talking back and forth.

And some of the stuff that she was saying, I was like, I don't know if I agree with that, but we ended up doing like majority says, and also at the end of the day, it is my project.

And I feel like a lot of musicians who are independent forget about that, how they're like, well, without your songs or the people that you've written with, it's like they wouldn't have that project to work on.

It's great to be collaborative, but also

you know, put your foot down.

But my producer, her and I see eye to eye and a lot of stuff.

Boy, that's so important.

All right, we have to do a very quick break.

We'll be back to wrap things up in just a couple minutes with Kailin Cole who's hanging out here for the last part of the show.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

rolling.

Can we use that in our bumpers Conrad?

Let's use that in the bumpers.

Sounds good.

This show needs more Katelyn Cole, I've decided.

So tell us about what you have coming up.

You've got, you're here, you just got here, you got some shows coming up.

So tell us about

it.

Yeah, so I basically live in Wisconsin in the summer.

Yeah,

but I mean, you kind of just have to go where your fans are, you know, and right now they're in the Midwest and I like it, so it's great.

But tomorrow I'm at Moxies in La Crosse.

My parents, I was born in La Crosse and my parents used to go to the bar at Moxies all the time.

It's

hilarious.

Yeah, my mom was like,

wait, you're doing that?

So I'm there from six to 9 p.m.

And then I am in Tumbled Rock Brewery in Bearboo from six to 9 p.m.

on Friday.

And

then I'm at Uncle Mike's in Appleton, Wisconsin from like,

eight to noon.

Wow.

That's a long set.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A couple of repeats in there.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

We're just a lot of stories.

A lot of accents and

stories.

We'll figure it out.

Work on that Indian accent while you're up there.

Oh, yeah.

Break that out, you know.

Yeah.

I've done that on a podcast before.

Have you really?

Yeah.

Just as a goof?

Yeah.

Well,

they told me they were like, so you do accents.

Apparently, everybody knows that I

do

accents.

except me.

You

just

kind of go in and out of it.

It's very seamless.

It's impressive.

It's

part of my social awkwardness.

Terry from Wausau says, will you be in Nashville last week of August?

Terry, I don't think so.

I think I'm actually singing, let me check my calendar.

I think I, because I managed myself so.

Oh, you brought your mom with you.

Yeah.

Why didn't

mom want

to manage you a little bit?

Yeah, I wish she could probably manage me in the summer, but she's a teacher.

Oh.

So she's got a

lot on her plate.

She's got a lot on

her plate.

That's good to see you.

Terry, I won't be, but you should come back down to Nashville.

Follow me at Kailin Cole on Anywhere, and we can connect.

Definitely connect with me.

Great plan.

I'll

message you.

Yeah, that's excellent.

All right, so where did the...

Do you have a song that you like to play the most?

You're doing a set.

Do you have those moments where you're like, and when I was a comic, I used to be like, oh God, this is a tough crowd.

I can't wait to get to the money

junk.

Yeah,

yeah.

Do you have that with your music?

I mean, I'm sure everything I've heard from you is just great, but do you have songs you like to play more than others?

Yes, I do.

There's a couple covers that I really like because I've done my own spin on them.

And people are like, oh, wow, that's cool.

Like Drops of Jupiter by Train.

Love that song.

Oh,

nice.

Every time that I play that, people are like, oh, that was all right.

Can people hear that?

No.

Just because it's someone else's song.

Yeah.

You'd have to come to a live show

to get that one.

But I really love playing my original song, Gawner.

And I've played that in Green Bay with you before.

It was the first

song that I ever played for you.

Yeah, when Lexi was there.

Yeah, I remember that.

And

I just love that song because I wrote that one with Lexi.

Lexi and I write really well together.

But I wrote that one with Lexi and Marla Cannon Goodman who wrote, I'm the fool with the fool, Leanne Womack.

Okay.

And then she also wrote, one more shot of Jose Cuervo.

Can't remember who that's by, but it's a big

country

song as well.

But we wrote that song, and I've had multiple people come up to me and just be like, that sounds like you when you sing that.

Because sometimes you fall into the feeling of trying to sound like somebody else, especially with covers

and

whatnot.

But every single time I play that, people are like, that one sounds like you.

It's so funny.

I used to be like this.

You know, at least when I started out, I was kind of like jaded.

I was like, I don't like covers.

I write your own stuff.

Yeah.

But as I get older, I love a cover.

I love when somebody puts their own spin on a song and it doesn't take anything away from the original artist.

But you're like, it's just great to hear a different interpretation.

Yeah.

That's

kind of how Morgan Wallen blew up

because of

Jason Isabel's cover me up.

Yeah.

He was on the voice and then, you know, he kind of gained some following there and then came out with cover me up.

three, four years after that.

I don't know.

I don't follow his career that close.

I got too much to worry about.

But yeah, then he blew up.

But then

Jason Isbole blew up again because it's his song.

Yeah.

So that's so cool.

Do you have venues in Wisconsin you like that are your favorite?

Yes.

Where?

I do.

Harvest Moon Pond, I love.

I like that name.

It's a small venue in Poignette and I've been

fortunate enough to sell that venue out every single

time that I play.

Wow, good for you.

It's 250 tickets, and I love that place because I feel like people really get to know me during my performance.

I'll play covers, I'll play a lot of originals.

Mainly I save my new material at the end of the summer when I play there, so people have like a reason to go, like, oh, something new is gonna pop up.

But then I also love like...

giving him a love life off date

or like

cracking a couple jokes, you know, accidentally doing accents.

You cannot do stand-up.

This is the third time you've mentioned that you like to tell jokes and do stand-up.

And I'm sure you'd be great at it, but you're pretty good at this too.

So I would stay in this lane for now.

But be funny during your shows, because I'm sure you get some life.

I think

that's the shtick, but like people want an experience.

Yeah.

All right, well, this has been really fun.

Thank you so much.

And I love the different sound of this than when you did it.

Thank you.

I like them both.

But this is really fun and a really great accomplishment.

So I hope it sells like gangbusters.

And I hope you have great shows while you're here.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for having me

again.

Katelyn Cole, ladies and gentlemen.

Yeah, we'll see you in about a week, I'm

sure.

Yeah,

I am sure.

We have rescheduled Frank Anderson, folks, for Friday night.

He'll be here at 6.35.

I will still be here in Madison.

Frank will be back then.

And that's a bar ban Friday night.

Thank you to Terry Barr, too, for introducing me to Kaylin Cole and making us friends.

So that's fun.

Kaylin's mom was here.

She's watching.

She didn't want to be in here,

though.

She could have.

I know.

I could have put her in the hot seat.

Bring the whole family.

Tomorrow night on the show, legendary radio host Steve Cochran will be here.

He'll be making the popcorn pick of the week.

And then...

We have Tim Sowers from the Overture Center right across the street.

He's going to talk about upcoming events and the great shows they do there too.

So on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad and Kailin Cole, I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night,

Wisconsin.

And I just want my mom to stop fighting everyone.

Or Wendy all be an activist too.

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