Summer in Wisconsin (Hour 2)

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a man barely six feet tall, but a mountain of muscle.

Pete Chwaba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

It is a Wednesday night.

We are headed toward a holiday weekend.

Very excited about that.

And got a great show tonight.

Lots of fun tonight.

We're going to talk about an art festival in Dork County.

And a lot of other stuff, some travel Wisconsin stuff too tonight, Conrad.

What do you think about that?

I think that's great.

You know, it's weird.

Like you kind of want to travel the world.

And there's a lot of places I still want to see, but...

When I talked to Logan Rogi who is our guest in the second hour I realized there's so much stuff just in Wisconsin I haven't seen that I want to check out and I always make a list after I talk to Logan so he'll be here at 735 And then but before that coming up at 635 we have an in-studio guest named Shane McAdams He's an artist and he is the director of the Door County Contemporary Art Festival

which is right around the corner.

So we'll get all the details from Shane.

He's gonna be here live.

And then we've got my pal, Bruce Jarco, is gonna be here at 7.05 to talk about his good friend, George Wendt, who passed away yesterday.

We'll talk a little bit about George's career and Bruce will share some memories.

That will be a lot of fun.

That's at 7.05.

We'll talk to Bruce for a few minutes.

So yeah, it's crazy how much this guy, George Wendt, was just so well liked.

I mean, I'm reading all this stuff.

by all accounts is just like the most down-to-earth cool dude and But we'll talk to Bruce about that and get some insight Bruce has been on the show before he's a Bruce is a great actor also a second city trained like George went is I assume that's where they meant but I'll ask Bruce that Bruce was on Seinfeld like three times.

He's like in this club of people who have done that show as different walk-on roles three times I think three times and

His most memorable one Appearance was as a doctor when George went in to have the thing in his lip looked at George says cancer.

Is it cancer and Bruce is my favorite line Bruce says well,

I don't

know what it is So always crack up when I see that so Bruce will be here at 705 that'll be fun, too Lots going on little George went talk some art talk

And some Travel Wisconsin talk, folks.

That's a show and we've got a great question tonight.

Lots of fun topics we will explore.

Why don't we get to the, should we get to the question, Conrad?

What do you think?

Let's do this.

Let's

talk about the question.

Okay,

question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Questions.

Who is your favorite?

TV or movie badass That's a question folks Who is your favorite TV or movie badass?

It's funny.

I don't the first one that comes to mind for me is Sugar played by Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.

Maybe the creepiest guy ever in a movie But I also liked Michael Fassbender in a movie called The Killer he plays an assassin

who screws up and has to race home before those that gave him the contract kill his wife.

Kind of a slick assassin type, I don't know.

There are so many ways you could go with this.

And a badass doesn't have to be a bad guy.

I just picture Gir because I love that movie so much.

Josh Brolin plays the protagonist in No Country for Old Men and he's a badass.

So.

Lots of things, lots of characters to choose from.

Conrad, you got one?

Yeah, Joe Dirt.

If you say Joe Dirt one more time on this show, I'm gonna send your ass packing down Washington Street, buddy.

What is this obsession for you and Joe Dirt?

I just like to say Joe Dirt.

Because it's a terrible movie.

Well, I would assume so.

David Spade is the lead actor, funny as he is.

Mean he's made some fun movies, but he's great and Tommy boy Yeah, his younger stuff I would say is better than his Well, I guess Joe Dirt's kind of young him, but it's

past it.

You know, do you have an actual badass favorite badass?

Yeah Come back to me.

This is tough.

I've been trying to decide this since I saw the question.

All right You've got jewels from Pulp Fiction Samuel Jackson

Die Hard, Bruce Willis.

Oh, Michael Corleone.

John Wick.

Lots of good ones.

You know, okay, this might be because I love these movies.

And he's the main character, and he's a badass in all movies.

Who

is it?

Harrison Ford.

Yeah.

Indiana Jones.

True.

Or Harrison Ford is Han Solo.

Yeah, I know he plays he's definitely that guy Yeah, uma thurman and kill bill awesome.

That's a great one great movie There's a

a ton of people to choose from.

So have fun with this one, folks.

Let us know who your favorite badass is for movies or TV, 855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic.

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Yeah, I'm gonna stick with sugar.

I think I just I love that move.

It's one of those movies.

I absolutely cannot turn off Lots going on though Tony Goldman has a birthday today.

He was in my film the Godfather of Green Bay was it was a pleasure to Direct Tony Goldman and Tony Goldman is MGM Goldman Metro Goldman Meyer Samuel Goldman was his grandfather.

So he is truly Hollywood royalty and he

Never took it for granted.

I've never met a more down-to-earth guy than when he was on the set of The Godfather of Green Bay.

You know, I'm just this guy making a movie in my hometown of Marinette, Wisconsin, and he would come up to me after every take.

How was that?

How was the accent?

How was my acting?

Like, truly a professional actor who respected the director's opinion, and I don't know that I had earned that.

That was the first film I had directed, an only film, for that matter.

And he just could not have been a more professional guy and a phenomenal actor.

So happy birthday Tony Goldwyn.

Timothy Olyphant has a birthday today.

That's a show we haven't really talked about on this program is justified.

Great show.

Like seven seasons of it too.

And Timothy Olyphant is great in it.

And Jimmy Stewart has a birthday today.

You heard of Jimmy Stewart,

right?

Yes, I've heard of his work.

He's done well for

himself.

Um, we have a phone call.

Yes, we do.

It's Greg from Waukesha.

Hey, Greg.

How's it going, buddy?

Hey, I'm well.

How are you doing very well?

Good to hear from

you.

Good to hear from you

too.

So, um, favorite movie badass has to be Julia Roberts in, uh, the movie, The Blind Side, and even in, uh, Aaron Brockovich, uh, more of a badass than The Blind Side though, but, um, you know, um, um,

But Julia Roberts has to be my favorite movie badass.

That's a great

badass.

And that was a great role, Aaron Brockovich, because Aaron Brockovich was a badass, right?

Yes.

Yes, it was.

She was.

Yep.

Great call, Greg.

Thank you so much.

And don't be a stranger.

It's good to hear from you, dude.

Yeah, good to hear from me too, Pete.

All

right.

Take care, Greg.

Greg from Walk of Shaw.

We haven't heard

from Greg in a while.

It

was

great.

So other big news The tush push Stays yes, it's not going anywhere.

Yeah,

nor should it

the Eagles posted a video It's like 25 minutes of all all tush bushes under you

should they revolutionize something like Devin Hester changed the kickoff rule That was more for safety too, and I'm all about protecting players

I don't want the game to go away, so protect them however you have to do for us to keep football, because I like watching it so much.

But the tush push.

Oh, we don't like this.

It's a play.

It's hard to stop.

Yeah, the whole game is hard.

Stop it.

Figure out a way to stop it.

Don't outlaw it.

I'm glad it's staying.

Because they'll design something that will stop it.

They have to.

I mean, you got to think in the camps this year, they're just going to be like, all right, guys, how do we stop this?

Right and they just got a workshop it, you know,

and he's got you know What's his name Jalen hurts?

Yeah, I don't even know that he needs a push the guy can squat like 4,000 pounds Probably not stopping that anyway,

and then you also got sake one who can do the same

right

now.

They just added AJ Dylan So yeah, that's a that's a quad backfield right there

absolutely, and I saw the Brock Purdy mr. What are they relevant mr. Irrelevant signed a

five year 265 million dollar extension.

Did he earn that Conrad?

Or not if he didn't earn it.

He got it, he earned it.

I give him that.

But is he worth it?

Would you have paid that for Brock Purdy?

I would not have.

I would not, but I'm not an awful owner.

So to keep him from leaving, keep him satisfied, keep him their franchise quarterback.

You gotta do it.

And I

mean, I can see the Texans doing this with CJ Stroud in a couple of years too.

Yeah.

Well see, I mean, I don't know I don't I don't and I don't begrudge like good for Brock Purdy.

That's a great story.

I was thoroughly surprised though when I saw that Hey, is it weird to mess with people on what you get these texts from people to try to engage you in conversation Weird to mess with them.

Well, I feel like if they're gonna mess with me if they're gonna randomly text me and act like they know me They're obviously after something I assume it's money

But I started messing with them.

There was this girl, she started sharing pictures.

Not anything weird, just, hey, how you been?

And I'm like, great.

So I tried to keep the conversation going, kind of like I did with Sophia Coppola.

That didn't really go anywhere.

So I thought I was starting to having this conversation with this woman, quote, bought whatever it is.

And I thought, well, I'll do this, I'll read it on the show.

But I gotta be honest, it started boring me.

I told her my name was Tristan.

There you

go.

And she's like, it would be very mundane stuff.

Like, where are you from, Tristan?

This and that.

And I kind of, I painted this picture of myself so they would keep texting me.

I said, you know, well, I'm very wealthy and my wife is leaving me and I know she's going to take half.

But I want to take care of, oh, I painted this whole, I'm a writer, dude.

I painted this whole story.

I told her.

She said you see him down.

I said well, I'm having a penis reduction next week and I'm nervous about it Okay, and I just kept pushing and she would not leave me she kept texting like they're obviously I wanted them to think I have money So they would keep you know pushing because I want to see what their motivation was.

Yeah, but to be honest I got bored and now she can like as of a week he goes Tristan, are you okay?

You're worrying me because I wasn't responding

I don't know what to do.

It's so invasive.

It's probably illegal on some level, but it's no different really than telemarketers.

I like to mess with telemarketers too, although that was years ago.

I don't even pick up the phone anymore.

And it's mostly boredom.

I just want to entertain myself.

I don't know, we'll see what happens.

All right, so we got that going.

We got a great show tonight, folks.

Our question of the night one more time is, who's your favorite movie or TV badass?

We will read those texts coming up after a very short break.

And Logan Roge is here.

Our pal Logan Roge is here in the second hour.

I will take a quiz.

Logan is gonna give me a quiz.

It's not lengthy, but he's gonna give me a quiz and see how I do.

It's called, what is it called?

Factor Fest, right?

No, fiction or fest.

Yes.

Okay.

So I'll have to, I'll play that because we usually give the quizzes around here, but Logan's bringing a quiz.

That'll be fun.

Bruce Jarco is here at 705.

The great actor Bruce Jarco to talk about his buddy Norm, Norm.

George went and yeah, and Shane McAdams is here tonight.

So this is a fun, fun show, folks.

You are here in a great night.

Let us know what your answer to the question is.

We'll read those when we come back.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Have you with me on this Wednesday evening.

I'll tell you, we're off.

We're putting a show together for Friday.

It's going to be all original, but I won't be here.

I have to take some time off for a family friend who passed away earlier last week.

So it's going to be a great show.

We're still doing Bar Band Friday and got great guests.

Who do we have on Friday?

We've got to pull up the sheet here because that's going to be a big show.

Terry Barr is of course Terry Bar will be here Michael Collins the director this week folks my classic movie pick of the week is a film called almost Sunrise about two veterans who hike across America the director Michael Collins will be here to talk about that on Friday and Then WGBW is very own Eliza Cousin will be here the newest member of our team and of course Terry Barr So that's Friday.

So this feels like what I'm going with this Conrad is this feels like a Thursday.

Yeah.

Yeah does

so Feels good.

All right.

We have a phone call

Yes, we do.

Let's take that call.

Who do we have?

Richard from Lucky Shaw.

Richard, how are you?

I'm pretty good.

I got a good movie.

It's a good layback, dark comedy and some good humor.

Love it.

Situational.

It's Paul Newman in a movie called I'm Nobody's Fool.

Oh, yeah, sure.

You

heard

that one?

I have.

I saw it years and years ago.

Thought you were

going

just like yeah, given the question

that

you're gonna say cool hand Luke for badass, but Yeah, he's a badass and

everything.

Oh, he yeah.

Well, this is just a good piece.

You know, this is a just decent movie.

Yeah

Melanie Griffith

is in

it too, right?

Who I think it's

Melanie Griffith.

Yeah.

Yeah

Yeah, and the acting is very well done.

That's fantastic.

So

Yeah, great

suggestion.

Thank you so much.

You got your popcorn and you're so done.

Lay back.

Absolutely.

Thank you for the call, buddy.

Have a great night, Richard.

Thanks so much.

You're welcome.

Bye.

Nobody's fool.

Kind of forgot about that movie.

It's been about probably 25, 30 years since I've seen it, but maybe worth a rewatch.

All right.

Our question tonight is, who is your favorite movie or TV badass?

We got some great responses on social media.

Kurt Krause says Sam Elliott as Wade Garrett in Roadhouse.

Oh, that's a good one.

Sarah Jean says Katniss Everdeen.

Yes, that's a great one too, Sarah Jean.

Thank you.

From the Hunger Games, of course.

What do you think of that name, Katniss?

That's

pretty badass.

It sounds like Katnip.

It does, but it's not.

Katnip is

not badass.

Katniss is badass.

There we go.

Yeah.

Matt Harper says David Labrava as happy as Sons of Anarchy.

I gotta be honest.

I have not seen much of Sons of Anarchy, even though our pal Jamie McShane was a regular on the show.

He's been on the show a few times.

He played an Irish gun runner who met a tragic fate, like many people on Sons of Anarchy do.

But I gotta give the show a watch.

I only watch Jamie's episodes.

I hear it's great.

Thank you, Matt.

Good to hear from you, buddy.

Monica Hale says John Malkovich in red with his comic paranoia and stockpile of weapons.

John Malkovich is pretty badass in anything.

Great one, Monica.

Daniel Wheeler says, Mike Ermentraut.

This might be the winner of the night.

Jonathan Banks played Mike in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.

And Daniel calls him a great anti-hero, and that is a really good way to describe Mike.

Great character.

And I love that he's an old guy too when he's a badass.

But I agree with Richard.

Now, I think Richard was just calling in to give a suggestion, but Paul Newman.

He was so great in the sting and cool hand Luke great movie badass Going to the text line here.

Do you have one yet?

Yeah,

I still thinking

no Indiana Jones.

Oh,

right That's better than Joe dirt.

Are you sure I'm pretty sure Steve from Florida says hands down all-time favorite movie badass is Clint East house Conrad laughing at you Steve

We know you meant

Clint Eastwood.

He still

doesn't know how to type.

East house.

It would be like Eastwood is a badass name.

East house is like the guy you're like, get out of here, East house.

It's Wisconsin.

Nugget time.

Yeah, exactly.

So Steve says Clint Eastwood.

I'm sure you would get a lot of agreement there, Steve.

Sherry from Horrican says, good evening, Pete and Conrad.

Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke.

The original Matt Dillon.

Sherry's going pre-Outsiders, the other Matt Dillon.

Great one, Sherry.

Mark from Prairie Drisac says, long kiss, good night.

Gina Davis and Sam Jackson, yes.

That was one of my classic movie picks of the week recently.

Gina Davis is so great in that, and Samuel Jackson is hilarious in that.

I would call her the badass in that film, and Sam Jackson just so much fun to watch in that movie.

And he does kind of save the day a couple times too.

So I guess you could say he's a badass, but I just thought he was hilarious.

Tom from New Berlin says, Margot Robbie, Harley Quinn for a female and Bond.

All of them.

So he goes, James Bond and Margot Robbie and Harley Quinn.

Margot Robbie's a good one too.

Great choices everybody.

And then we've got Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids.

I have no excuse except that your show is so much fun.

My answer is 2000s.

Tyler sticks with a joke.

I have a lot of respect for people that do that.

And I also like people that beat a joke into the ground.

And it becomes extra funny.

But Tyler says, my answer is 2000s and won a Beaver Odyssey.

Hell, the badass ships computer.

Yeah, hell is a badass.

No question about that.

Tyler likes that Beaver movie.

It's a great movie.

Hundreds of beavers, folks.

If you haven't checked it out.

Wisconsin Born and Bright, great film.

Crushed at the box office for an indie Chris on the text line.

She's listening in the 773 I assume in Chicago or maybe she's a transplant doesn't matter undisputed Bruce Lee big screen badass great one Chris love Bruce Lee Barb and Waukesha Says Susan Sarandon and Gina Davis and Thelma and Louise love their encounter with the perverted truck driver.

Yes God, I'd love this.

See this is why we have a great information exchange because I forget about a lot of these

Right Conrad.

Oh, yeah, he's still with me.

He's looking for another Joe Dirt reference.

He can shoehorn

into

the conversation.

All right, we'll read more of your texts when we, as the show progresses.

Coming up next, all the way from Dora County, out there in the suburbs of Green Bay, artist Shane McAdams joins the program to talk about this really cool art festival.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

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with Pete Schwabba.

Great to have you here tonight, folks.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network, and we are barreling through this week as we get close to a holiday weekend.

Dave on the stream says, Reacher is his favorite movie or TV badass.

And you could go both, because Reacher, I like both of them.

I like that Alan Richardson is closer to the hero in the book, but I love the Tom Cruise version as well.

So that's a good one.

And then Chris said, I'm a guy.

You catch that Conrad?

Yeah, I think you mess it up every time.

Yeah, I know a girl named Chris who spells it like that, so I made this assumption, Chris, so I apologize for that.

Thank you for the text either way and I will remember now because your last name is different than my friend So I have no excuse now moving forward.

Okay, Bruce Jericho coming up at 705 Bruce is a great actor and he was good pals with George Wentz So we'll talk to Bruce about his loss and George Wentz legacy But right now I'm very excited to welcome my next guest his name is Shane McAdams.

He's an artist and he is also the director or co-director I should say

Co-director.

I don't want to leave anybody out of the Door County Contemporary Art Fair, which takes place June 5th through the 8th, just down the road here in Door County from downtown Green Bay.

Great to

have you here, Shane.

Well, I'm very happy to be here.

Yeah.

Thank you.

So you're staying in Door County right now.

We've established you live in the Milwaukee area.

Yes.

But you got a little crib up there for the festival?

A crib.

That's a funny way to put

it.

Well, so I'm the...

Fair will be at the Peninsula School of Art, which is in Fish Creek.

And they're kind of an art school.

It's been around for a long

time.

And they

have a little, I don't know, pita tear, a little ranch house that we can stay in across the way.

So we stay there when we happen if I need nicer accommodation.

I think we have an Airbnb for like the, you know, for our war room days.

Like when the fair is actually happening, I

think we want something with a kitchen island that we can.

kind of operate from.

Sure.

It's a little more Spartan.

Chaps and

vegetables.

Yeah, I've been going up a lot in my history of, like, I started teaching there, teaching classes, and that's how this whole thing kind of emerged through, like, a teaching relationship with the school.

And so I would stay there, and as we go into this, yeah, like I...

I think I associate it with teaching and being there in the summers, I think we'll probably do something a little bit

more comfortable.

So you don't live there, but it sounds like you spend a considerable amount of time in Dore County with teaching and the art fair and all

that.

I do, you know, it's a place, sorry, of a clumped

here.

All that talk about movies, all that talk about movies, I

wanted into that last segment really bad.

No, so Dore County for me, I'm an implant.

I came here from Brooklyn, my wife is from Wisconsin.

So we, you know, I went to Dore County as this kind of like, what is this weird leisure spot that you guys like to go to?

And I always called it like a poor man's Cape Cod, which is sorry, Wisconsin, but

you

know, it was like that.

It was cotton candy, caramel, that kind of thing.

But I went with my kids and I.

imprinted on it as just a real kind of basic tourist.

And as I started teaching there, it got deeper and deeper and deeper in terms of the art thing.

So it's evolved from me just kind of strip mining it for my own pleasure to something that I think of as a great site to bring art and culture and kind of connect with people that are up there that want something deeper.

You know, I'm not mad at you, Shane.

I just want to get that out right away.

You are.

But poor man's.

Cape Cod.

No, I've heard that a lot and I don't like Wisconsinites say that.

I'm like, yeah, be your own thing.

Like for a while, Milwaukee was the Portland of the midway.

I've just been

Milwaukee.

It's a terrible thing.

You know, sometimes you're doing it.

It's like when you have like a bad analogy that's kind of crass, but

you

use it just to get the point across.

And I

do that because some people are like, what is this thing

called

Dora County?

And you go, well, and then people go, oh, I know what you mean.

Yeah, it's going to be less pretentious.

Hold

taffy

and, you know.

It's beautiful.

I love Door County.

And when I first reached out to you, I thought, oh, this lucky guy gets to live in Door County and run this art fair.

And here you are living in Milwaukee, which is also a lovely town.

I told you

I live in Cedarburg, which is,

if you know anything, which

in Cedar, I think we may have spoken about it, but Cedarburg, and if you ask Cedar Bergeans, they would say that it is not a suburb of Milwaukee.

It's its own like special kind of unique place.

And I would agree as someone that I feel is fairly

unbiased as someone that just kind of plopped in, parachuted in 12 years ago when my daughter was born.

It's a unique place.

When I bring people there, they look down the one, the main street that's downtown and there's an old movie theater and a caramel apple shop.

People go, that's something.

That's

not your typical summer.

No, absolutely not.

And I've heard really great things about Cedar Brook too, but let me ask you this.

You say you're from Brooklyn, and I believe you.

Is that where you got your art

chops, so to speak?

Yeah, it's like where you where one goes to get their

yeah a

little bit like music or you know if you were in You're an actor that wanted to be in film all roads kind of go through LA for that and and New York is a little bit like that too and that kind of brings us into like why we're doing this fair You can be an artist from the Midwest and probably make it into the

canonical art world, but you still kind of have to get stamped in New York a little bit or LA.

And I feel like we're in a world that's kind of decentralizing with...

you know, with social networks and

a lot of

things are doing that.

Yeah, talking about films and food is doing that.

When I was a kid, like there were there were people in New York that went to La Grande and then there was me going to like Godfather's Pizza, but there wasn't a lot.

And now there's like populated all the way in between those two things.

I mean, there's, you know, a lot of spaces to go get higher and food isn't necessarily under, you know, a metal dome.

And I think that that is

You know, it's changing and we're trying to kind of like me from Brooklyn coming back here.

We're trying to Kind of ride that wave or kind of force the issue a little bit.

Yeah, I don't think we need to be in Brooklyn anymore to do this necessarily even though probably most of the economic and Probably, you know, physical energy is there, but it is changing.

That's interesting.

I you said pizza by the way, was there a Mulberry Street?

in Brooklyn where you lived?

Well, not in Brooklyn.

That is New York, right?

That's little Italy.

Yeah.

So, I mean, I would be that.

That got me to migrate from, because I grew up, the first part of my childhood was in Chicago, and I liked the Chicago stuff.

But as I got older, I'm like, I can't eat that.

It's a lot.

On Mulberry, when I was living in L.A., somebody brought it.

I'm like, this is the best pizza.

Yeah.

It's thin crust.

That's New York.

Well,

Wisconsin pizza is like that, too.

You know, you

can eat it and go out.

I think that's why

they do it.

because it's like pub pizza, like you can have a lot of Wisconsin pizza and still go out for like

any nightcap.

You don't

need a nap.

I've done, so on Mulberry Street, like in little Italy in New York,

I

remember once we went out and they do the courses, like the end is like the carne,

you know, they start out in a

pasta.

And you're expected to go through like four courses.

And we went there for like someone's birthday.

And we were young and we were planning on drinking and

making

it a night.

And I was like, well, let's do this right.

So by car name, like asleep, you know, I have no blood left in my head.

It's all in my gut.

So

yeah.

Great stuff.

Well, tell us about.

the art fair itself it's the door county county door county contemporary art fair uh what can people expect when they go there is there a certain time is there a theme or is there food there in wisconsin we love uh food at our festivals

sure well so this isn't um

a public radio station.

So I'm gonna walk back.

It tends to be like, you know, the art world is on that kind of crunchier side of the spectrum.

And there's a distinction between what would be like an art festival, which would be some like white tents and people selling their wares.

This is kind of a thing in the, in the art world.

Like if you've heard of Art Basel, Miami or Art Bud, there's these big art fairs and they're galleries that represent artists.

So they would be like build out spaces.

So when you go there, it will be

20 galleries in physical spaces that we

build.

So it's much more kind of structural, much more like a much bigger lift to make it happen.

Then

you just like put out some tables.

So it's a little bit, I would say.

These words are really dangerous because the whole idea is to make it elevated, but it's not pretentious.

It's approachable.

Open to people.

You want people.

I mean,

what I'm always trying to do is build connections because I'm a Midwest kid.

I mean, I went to school in Brooklyn, but I'm from Kansas City.

And so I grew up, I would say, humble.

My parents didn't have art.

And then I kind of got anointed into this world that was much...

it was outside of where I came from.

And my desire was to have, like, ultimately have all the kind of sophistication and cultivation of one end, but not be, not turn into.

you know, jerks.

Yeah.

You know, and that's always been a

problem.

You know, when you walk into a really nice restaurant, it's like, give me good food, but don't give me attitude.

Right.

And

that's, you know, that's kind of what it

is.

So

anyway, so we have 20 galleries and they're very, very amazing, respectable galleries from around the Midwest.

Okay.

Kansas City Galleries, Nashville, Minneapolis,

Chicago.

Is that how

they're...

differentiated or broken up

into you'll see like a gallery will say hair and nails which is a great gallery from Minneapolis it will say hair and nails Minneapolis

so it'll

give you kind of a you know a breakdown of of the geography

and that

was the goal the whole thing and that's the goal going forward to do this year after year and make it kind of a gathering and a way to connect Midwest spaces because the art world is fairly obscure it doesn't mind being obscure yeah so what happens is they tend to not connect very

that much because they're trying to, they're trying to be underground.

It's like

punk rock.

They're at a certain end of it has a little bit of kind of gritty alternative punk rock spirit.

And because of that, they tend to not to get together and like Davos conventions and,

you know, exchange business cards.

My guess is Shane McAdams.

He is the co-director of the Door County Contemporary Art Fair, which runs June 5th through the 8th in Fish Creek.

We have

some of your paintings I'd like to show for people watching on the stream.

Conrad, can we showcase some of your artwork?

Is that okay?

You

may.

I didn't know we were doing this, but this will be interesting for me to

see.

I thought I wanted you to do the moody artist thing where you go, no, I don't like my stuff being seen.

Do I seem like a moody artist?

No, not at all.

Not at all.

You know what you seem like?

I'm looking at your outfit, though, Shane, and I'm going, why don't I wear jackets like that on the air, Conrad?

I mean, I

wear a nice

shirt typically, but would it kill me to dress up a little bit?

You look very presentable.

Ah, you're just saying that.

All right, let's see some of Shane's work on the stream.

If you're on the stream, check this out, and oh wow, what are we looking at there?

So

I use lots of very unnatural materials to make work that kind of produces itself through processes and procedures, and so that's Elmer's glue.

Doing

very

natural organic things, but it's very unnatural stuff.

So what is it?

What is it on?

Is it just it's on a panel?

Oh, okay

Yeah, that's actually it's funny because to see it here It's you know, it's by my door as I left today.

Well, it probably doesn't capture I know we're just on this little stream here, but let's see another one con Dior

foam sprayed with so I put acetone which is like nail nail polish over on a rag and I let it soak into foam

So it's like lots of really unnatural things to kind of mimic natural processes in the world.

Yeah, that looks

like

the bottom of like the ocean floor.

That's what I'm saying.

I think the idea

is to take something really kind of stupid and unnatural and have someone kind of marvel at it as if it was, you know, the most natural thing in the world.

Who are your influences, Shane?

When, like... Goodness.

Do you have a... My influences are, you know, weird things in the world, like bread.

You

know you look at bread and other artists.

Yeah, no, but I take a lot from I'm ecumenical I tried to get lots of stuff from lots of weird places talking to people like you

I'm gonna weirdos Like

honestly

do something with this shirt.

Yeah,

I probably make that into

I it's amazing.

We've had I've had a couple friends on I started in stand-up comedy and couple of my friends have branched off and they're like selling art now for like this a lot of money and I'm just like I hate people like that expensive

can't be successful at two different mediums.

Some people are, you know.

I don't like them.

All right, Shane McAdams is here.

We're coming right back after a very quick break to talk more about the Door County Contemporary Art Fair, which takes place June 5th through the 8th.

This is Pete Chihuahua on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Welcome

back.

This is Night Light.

I am Pete Schwabble, great to have you with me on this Wednesday night.

I hope I'm saying this right.

Malaya in the 608 says, Killian Murphy or Adrian Brody in Peaky Blinders.

Was Adrian Brody in Peaky Blinders?

I didn't even know that.

I watched

the first season.

He may have joined the cast afterwards, but those are both good badasses.

John from Columbia County, he's in the 608.

He says, Jesse Wales, real badass.

No question about that.

There's your Clint East house.

I don't know, that's your dad's.

Who's

that

guy?

Brian from Green Bay says, the iceberg in Titanic was a good badass.

Very well done.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

We have a...

I guest in the studio.

I'm enjoying very much talking to you.

His name is Shane McAdams.

He is the co-director of the Door County Contemporary Art Fair, which runs June 5th through the 8th.

And talk a little bit about the Peninsula School of Art.

That's pretty cool.

You mentioned it before, but are those classes open to people?

Or is it a club?

Is it an actual school?

I teach classes with.

resin and alternative materials, but they have watercolor classes, jewelry, all kinds of interesting options.

And because they teach so many classes, I think when we approach them with the art fair as this kind of strange idea, because this is not the first contemporary art fair that's been in Door County.

I mean, they have some arts and crafts festivals, but they were really excited because it kind of broadened their offerings.

made connections and with different kinds of people because a lot of people are going to come from Minneapolis and Chicago for this because people that are art collectors tend to travel for this kind of stuff.

So it'll be a different mix of people than, you know, whoever's taking the watercolor classes.

But yes, of course, anyone's welcome to take classes.

And

the teachers

are great.

You have a I've heard for years that art that Thor County is a great

has a great artist community.

Have you found that as an artist?

You don't live there, but you spent enough time there.

Is that a good place to be if you're an artist?

It does.

I mean, it

does have a great artist community.

In a beautiful setting.

Of course.

And it attracts people that like sensory aesthetic things, because it's beautiful.

It's a great spirit and atmosphere to make anything in.

But it tends to be, I would say,

without being disparaging, more decorative, more probably, you know, prone to being representational, which would be like pictures or paintings about things that you see, and less conceptual.

And that when you see contemporary art, it's often...

you know, more abstract, maybe using materials differently, different kinds of forms.

And so when you come to our art fair, you're going to see things that aren't going to be just a watercolor of like a bay.

Yeah.

So you'll see different things.

And my belief is honestly, in the art world, and this is the problem.

I'm trying to kind of do this, you know, broker.

a deal between these two different art worlds.

There's lots of people that like to paint watercolors of, you know, of setting suns.

And then on the other side, there's this other thing where people like to make really conceptual work, you know, out of found materials.

And the truth is, in the art world, we're competing against other entertainments that I think are much less delicate and flatter and blunter and dumber.

And I think we all need to kind of be on the same page.

It's not a world that's big enough and powerful enough to start vulcanizing.

So that's what I'm always about because I mean, the thing is, I do respect someone that's a great watercolorist, but also like conceptual art.

And the truth is, if you imagine art as being kind of just a general embodiment or reflection of everything you like in humanity, like you meet lots of different kinds of people, funny people, gregarious people, you need people that are

Super responsible and you don't go in and write someone off because they're responsible, but not funny I mean everyone serves a purpose and that's what I think about like a watercolor like sometimes I love it Yeah, but sometimes I want something really weird because I'm in a weird mood Yeah, and I think instead of looking for something that has meaning or an answer is very Like objective you go once just like people I know all kinds of people that give me all kinds of weird things and as long as as that person's authentic and being who they are you can just appreciate

that for that.

Listen, dude, I love being around people that I don't ever know what's coming out of their mouth.

Those people to me are the true entertainment in life.

You know, and those are the characters.

I mean, as a writer, I want to write about maybe you want to paint or build a sculpture or something like I'm totally with you.

I

often say, just let me say this is that art to me and art, I mean, across all arts is the potential to be surprised.

Half the world is trying to.

make everything predictable.

Like Costco doesn't want you to be surprised.

They want you, they want to know what you're doing.

They want to run algorithms on us.

And I'm not some crazy Marxist.

That's just the truth.

I think like the world would be really crappy if we didn't have supply chains that were getting peanut butter around.

Right.

But you need to save like comedy and vacations and and art and all these other things that we value to be totally improvised and and

In in unpredictable though, that's what art is the art is the possibility of being surprised by something And so when you go to an art fair you're gonna get surprised hopefully yeah, so some of it won't be a good surprise But sometimes you'll find that the exact thing that you want

Just to clarify,

can I still shop at Costco and take advantage of the big, big savings?

I do.

Okay.

All right.

Just I want to get that out there.

I'm not like an anti, you know,

anti Costco

guy.

All right.

So we got about a minute left.

Unfortunately, Shane, this has been a lot of fun, but you're an Alexander Payne film when it comes to fan, when it comes to movies.

Who isn't

though?

I love them.

But

give us the best

one.

Oh, God.

I'm the sideways

guy.

I like sideways a lot.

Love citizen root.

You know, I probably have to go election.

because it makes

me laugh.

Yeah.

Sideways does too.

Yeah, I think sideways.

Yeah, I use it in my class and I'll be really quick because it's that it is is perfection for art.

This is art, right?

Yeah.

Is perfection a thing, an objective thing, or is it a context?

And I'm a guy, I believe in context, like the right thing in the right place.

Comparing it to the wine.

The wine.

Like if you have the right wine with the right people in the right sunset, wine is perfect.

It's not something but a 99.

Yeah.

You know, and get it absolutely like it's in a

vacuum.

All right, we have to do this again so we can draw this discussion out

a little bit more.

I would love to talk.

We could spend a whole segment just on Alexander Payne, and I haven't done that yet, Conrad, so we got to do that.

We'll do this again.

Sounds

good.

Good luck.

Break a leg with the Art Fest.

Thank

you, and

great pleasure.

Thank you, Pete.

My pleasure.

All right, that's Shane McAdams.

Check out the Dora County Contemporary Art Fest, June 5th through the 8th.

I'm Pete Chihuahua.

This is Night Light.

We're coming back after intermission with Bruce Jarkal, a fine actor and a good friend of George Wentz, who's going to tell us about his buddy.

That's all coming up next.

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Welcome back.

Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, we are about to start Act 2.

Great to have you with me on this Wednesday, which really feels like a Thursday.

As we get closer to the long weekend, we will not be here Friday night, but we do have an original show.

It is still a bar ban Friday night.

And if you want to respond to tonight's question, who's your favorite movie or TV badass?

Let me know soon, please, because we have pre-recorded content that we'll play after the news at 7.35 with our pal Logan Rogi from Travel Wisconsin.

So if you missed the first hour, we talked to Shane McAdams about the Dork County Contemporary Art Fair, which is June 5th through the 8th.

We had some fun talks about badasses, a little bit of George Wendt talk.

We talked about the tush push, all kinds of stuff.

You can find it all on the app.

at civicmedia.us.

Right now I'm very excited to welcome a good friend of mine to the show.

He was sort of a guy I really looked up to because I knew I wanted to go into show business and Bruce is a little bit older than me and he was already there and he's a very good friend and he joins us now on the stream.

Bruce, how are you?

Hello Pete, how are

you?

Great to hear your voice, buddy.

I'm doing well.

Thank

you.

Thank

you very much.

First, let me say, I'm very sorry for your loss.

I knew you were friends with George Went, but I had no idea how close you guys were until I saw all your social media posts with just such great

memories.

We formed a brotherhood, sisterhood kind of deal with that original company and the number of people that we worked with when we first got on the main stage at Second City and even before that during workshops and touring companies and stuff.

And it's still a close knit group even to this day with Tim and George and I and Danny Breen, the late Danny Breen.

Noni Newton is also in there Audrey Neenan a bunch of people that Tim Kazarinsky of course and Mary Gross We're all we're all you know in a state of shock really because this is it is like a brother passing

Yeah, well, I'm very sorry for your loss Bruce and I appreciate you taking out some time tonight I I I mostly know George went from Cheers and he was so great and I was reading a story about Before you came on before the show tonight about how they found him and he was on another show And he auditioned and they said we like this guy so much We're gonna let him be on both shows and the other one ended up getting canceled, but can you talk a little bit about?

like it must be so great to see when you come up with a group like that and you develop this bond.

What's it like when one of you has like success like that?

Well, it's first of all we root for for everybody.

Yeah,

there's no real envy or anything going on I think most of us took it as an opportunity to sponge off George now they were successful In terms of Nancy reminded me of you can kind of follow George through his dedication to the barbecue and we all knew that with the with the series regular on a Primetime show that the barbecue would be something rather special and

And I even had the opportunity, he took me out barbecue shopping.

Right after he got Cheers and I went really I mean, you know, I just buy a Weber or something Oh, no, he's after the top of the line You know the Cadillac of barbecues and we went around to all of these hardware stores in the Valley out in California and he couldn't make up his mind and eventually he got I think he put it together himself He got a bunch of modules that had like spigots for beer.

He had a smoker.

He had he had the greatest barbecue setup I've ever

seen and this comes from a guy who when we first started out and he had a lousy little apartment on Armageddon Avenue in Chicago and he invited Nancy and I over one February evening after a pretty late night he says come on over Bernadette and I are gonna fire up the barbecue and I'm going well Jesus George there's like three feet of snow out there.

And what he'd done was he had shoveled the snow.

He'd shoveled a patch in his backyard and literally barbecued ribs at three o'clock in the morning.

Wow.

And this was such a common occurrence for him.

I think his neighbors thought that there was some sort of cult going on in his apartment.

But he just kept buying better and better barbecues the more successful he got.

And that's what we were all looking forward to, because he used to host a lot of parties.

It's those stories that I've seen on social media and I had no idea how many friends of mine were friends of his and just that down-to-earth, very humble guy.

He, in an article I read yesterday, Bruce, George Wendt was quoted as, again, being very humble and saying he was, I don't know if he was referring to the main stage at Second City or not, but he was there for six years and he says he called himself the worst improver ever.

Is that possible?

Well, I'm sure George is a lot better than the worst ever.

But he did really enjoy those scenes where he didn't have too much dialogue.

Because he could steal the scene just by mugging.

His improvisation skills were his mugging, his little...

spit takes his side takes his you know his reaction shots he was a he was a master at that while he didn't you know Tim was a master Tim Kazerinsky was a master of the the jumpy one liners that had saved us and George was the George was the character who who stole every scene just by looking at the audience funny breaking the fourth wall etc.

For those of you listening who don't know who Tim Kazarinski is, I think Tim wrote about last night, but he was also in it and he was very funny as John Belushi's friend with the British accent.

It's just such a brilliant comedian and you guys all are great.

I was talking about your role earlier, Bruce, when you were on Seinfeld and the doctor who diagnosed George's lip.

Just a talented bunch of people, but George went also

I thought this was great.

Again, just showing what a humble Midwestern guy he is, he said he goes, anybody could have played Norm.

Not true, obviously, but he said it was the writing on that show.

They served up gems and they made everything easy.

That's just another testament to what a good dude he seems like he was.

Right.

And also a testament to the show too because

they

saw in George someone that they could write for.

And it's really every actor's dream is to get on a

show where the writers and the producers all understand your person, the type of work that comes so easily to you, and they write for that.

And they did that on Cheers for George.

It was a pleasure to watch him there.

I mean, he was in his element.

Jesus.

He walks in the door.

He says the funniest line in the show sits down and pretends to drink a beer all day.

That's so great.

My guest is actor writer Bruce Jarco.

He is joining us for a few minutes tonight to talk about his good friend, George Went, who just passed away a couple of days ago.

I'm sure it doesn't even seem real still, Bruce, but this is so great that you guys, I didn't know this.

I knew you were in my bodyguard because when I was a kid and I saw this guy, I had played wiffle ball or softball with in Three Lakes, Wisconsin in a movie.

I was like, get out of here.

How did that happen?

It was magical.

And I was reading yesterday, George Wendt is in that movie too.

Did you guys have scenes together or were you there on the same page?

No, we didn't.

Actually, Hollywood found Second City.

This is shortly after Jane Byrne became the mayor and opened up Chicago to Hollywood productions.

Mayor Daly, and even Belandick after him, did not want any or much production.

They made it very difficult for Hollywood to come to Chicago

and

start shooting movies.

Jane Byrne said, fine.

let's go and you know the Blues Brothers came and a bunch of other movies but they started trying to find local talent in Chicago and they knew it was here because we have a great number of actors and the you know just the local theaters are just you know boiling over with talent right and the English second city and they got me they got Audrey and they got George and they got Tim all for this movie called

Somewhere in time and then there was my bodyguard came around that somewhere in time is with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour

Macon

Island guard came around with me and George and Tim and I might have probably someone else from our company got in there, too But we were just like we were being discovered, you know, wow,

that's

fantastic on the main stage at the time.

I still Bruce I still remember

One of your lines in that movie, when Chris Makepeace gets out of the limo and runs away and you said, the cops don't even come to this neighborhood at night.

It

was

so much

fun.

Yeah, it was a great experience.