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Meet the Parents & Wisconsin Film Festival(Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Apr 4, 2025
We're coming to you live from Madison tonight, folks, so it's great to have you with me wherever you're joining us from.
There's a lot going on in Madison this weekend, but it's the weekend and it's Wisconsin, so there's a lot going on everywhere.
Hope you have great plans this weekend and hope you had a good week.
If you had a tough day,
Sit back and chill and let us sort of make you feel happy.
We've got a great guest tonight, some good conversation, some funny clips, some good music, a perfect way to send you into the weekend.
I have to say...
This is strange.
If you're watching on the stream, I feel like I'm a McDonald's drive-through attendee right now with this microphone or I'm playing, you know, Minecraft or something.
I can't get used to this microphone.
I'm in Madison and they're redoing the studio here and it's going to look amazing.
It looks amazing now, but I'm used to having a microphone.
And I mean, I still do, but a different kind.
I'm assuming it's in regard to the tariffs.
America defeats America.
The onion, they don't bat a thousand, but God, they just crush it.
And when they are on, they are on.
And ladies and gentlemen, I am coming to you from the hometown of the onion.
This is where it was created.
This is where it was all started.
Madison, a great comedy town.
We're going to be talking about a great comedy tonight.
Greg Liana and Jim Vincent.
The filmmakers behind the original Meet the Parents will be here in studio because they are in town for a screening tomorrow of the original Meet the Parents at the Barrymore Theater at 1.30, which I will be introducing and interviewing them afterwards at a Q&A.
We'll discuss all the great things about this, just this little gem of a movie that went on to create one of the biggest live action franchises.
in the history of movies.
And it's a great little film.
If you're in the Madison area or don't mind a road trip, come on out.
It should be a great day.
The Barrymore Theater, for those of you who are not in Madison, just a beautiful old theater.
It's got the stars on the ceiling.
There's a balcony, great lobby.
You smell popcorn when you walk in and they've got a great, I think you can get actual booze there too.
Those of you who are alcoholic should definitely swing by tomorrow at the Barrymore.
But it's going to be a fun day.
Greg and Jim will be there.
They're going to be here tonight to talk a little bit about the screening in person because they're in Madison.
They'll be along at 6.35.
And then it is a Friday night.
Nightlight, once again, folks, is making radio history.
We don't do it often.
But when we do it, we do it right.
Terry Barr is here for Bar Band Friday night.
And since she lives in the greater Madison area.
She will be here in studio as well.
So we've got wall-to-wall studio guests our friend Terry who is one of the hosts of max Inc radio will be here tonight.
She's got two great bands She'll be here in person.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
So, you know, I we just thought of this last night con about inviting Terry Yeah, I thought for some reason she lived like halfway between Madison and Milwaukee.
I didn't realize she was so close.
Yeah, this worked out so
So you wanted a signing bonus.
I said no she countered we worked it out.
Okay.
She'll be here.
I did, I drove down here last night after the show in Green Bay.
I got in my car.
I came down to Madison.
I pulled over to get gas.
I don't know, what is it?
Nine o'clock at night.
I'm somewhere around Fond du Lac.
And, you know, I keep putting my card in the thing and it says, please see attendant.
I'm like, okay.
It's a new debit card.
I thought maybe there was something wrong.
I tried again.
I hit pay at the pump again and I tried again.
It says, please see attendant.
I look at the guy in the window.
I give him one of these, you know, hey, what's up?
And he says over the microphone, he says, you have to pay inside.
Do you want to pay at the pump?
I go, yeah, I want to pay at the pump.
That's the thing goes, OK, you have to you have to do it inside.
I was just like the weirdest conversation I've ever had.
And then he came out and fixed it.
And I went on my merry way, but it was really just kind of a. You know.
If I was at a gas station all night working, I'd probably smoke weed.
You'd probably see three people a night.
It's got to be like the most, it's got to be hard to stay awake.
And my friend, Mike Schmidt, remember he was on the show and told
story about how he went in the back and took a nap and somebody came in and cleaned the place out and they had it all on camera.
That would be so tempting.
But very nice guy.
We figured it out, but there was definitely, we were having trouble communicating there, but I.
I worked it out.
You know what else I saw?
Sometimes I like to take the road less traveled, so to speak, to quote Robert Frost.
I went through this little road and there was this house on a small highway and it had that thing where the sheriff is like leaning against the house.
It's like a silhouette and it looks like a marshal kind of leaning.
We'll put it up on the stream and see if people can help me out because you see that they're not that rare.
Like a lot of people have them.
I just don't get it.
So as I mentioned, I'm in Madison, folks, the Wisconsin Film Festival is here.
I was looking through the guide today.
Great films.
And I saw one, a scary movie that I'm supposed to introduce.
And it got me thinking.
And it also led me to tonight's question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
It's Friday night, folks.
It's not the 13th, but we can have some fun with this.
What is the scariest movie you've ever seen?
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Terry already checking in on the stream.
That's Terry Barmedia, ladies and gentlemen, our Bar Band Friday night guest every Friday here.
She says, you soon.
Yes, you will, Terry.
We'll be here.
I will let you in if the doors are locked.
PJ also checks in on the stream and says, the hills have eyes.
All right, I have to make a disclaimer here, folks.
A lot of the suggestions you send to me, I'm not going to know.
I don't really watch.
Scary movies that much.
It's not that I don't like them.
I don't like the grossness I'm not a whore like I remember going to my high school friend when we lived in LA lived in San Clemente.
We went down there for Thanksgiving He and his wife said oh You got to see saw you have to see this movie.
It's great.
So we eat this huge Thanksgiving dinner our kids are playing all day It's a great day and then they end it with saw the worst movie
I mean, some people, if you like horror, you probably love Saw.
I was repulsed.
And not really that scared, just really grossed out.
So I don't know if The Hills Have Eyes, PJ, is kind of a gore movie or a scare movie or whatever.
But I just want to say in advance, I don't know a ton of scary movies.
But I'm putting this out there to you guys because I know a lot of people do love scary movies.
So please share them.
And we have a caller.
Can I do that?
Yes, we do.
Well, I'm I'm good when I'm tempted to say the scariest movie is the one we're living in right now.
I
Well, I have to be the first, you know, I I have two scary movies that I Remember being truly frightened in one was Alfred Hitchhaw the birds
yeah.
And the other was Pujo.
Yep.
You bet.
No, it just was not a good
It was definitely frightening.
a happy
Network.
And the texts are pouring in.
This is going to be one of those nights I think where it'll be tough to keep up.
PJ says, the hills have eyes is not gory or it's not as gory as saw.
So I have heard that's a great movie.
PJ also says a family gets stranded in the desert on vacation and while looking for help, they stumble across a deserted and nuclear testing site.
That's interesting.
He says it gets scarier.
That reminds me of the Gorge a little bit.
I wonder if they take things in the same direction.
We've got Tom from New Berlin says, Pete, with you on horror, there have been good ones.
I liked Silence of the Lambs.
Scared me.
What's yours, Con?
Human centipede
I think for me, it's the shining.
Yeah, really that's a movie that just like Not particularly gory either just creepy as all get out Really creepy movie Christine from slinger says the exorcist by far the book was actually worse.
I read the book Christine as a kid.
I agree with you
Don from Wanaki says, it's alive.
I think that is a movie, but I don't remember that one.
Thank you, Don.
715 says, Salem's lot.
I had the most nightmares from it.
Okay.
I don't remember that one either, but that's another one I saw when I was a kid.
Annie from Watertown says, I agree on blood and gore.
Thumbs down.
Lots of scary movies are good, but still absolutely creeped out by the monkeys in the Wizard of Oz.
I'm with you Annie, but how tame does that seem now compared to what you see?
Unbelievable Brian call we got a call.
Yeah, it's Brian from walkie.
Yeah, let's talk to Brian.
Hey Brian.
How's it going?
Hey good.
How you guys doing?
This is gonna be probably one of the craziest answers you've ever heard I am 39 years old, but ever since I was kid I cannot watch this movie I've only seen it once and I will never watch it again.
It's easy the extraterrestrial
and my scene that freaked me out was when the mom finds a little girl in the closet or bathroom or whatever with ETL shriveled up.
She picks up the girl, tries to escape the house, and they got these guys in those space suits that come just like breaking in through the front door and through the windows.
That scene- That is
Has petrified me over because I was a kid.
I thought you were
and
And the whole rest of that movie was just like, oh my god, these guys in Heads, Bats, Toots, and everything else just scared the hell
think you'd like saw Brian.
Stay away
that one.
I can't
it.
Yeah, take care.
Sage, if you're listening.
So I thought this was really cool.
And I know you like the movie McGroober a lot.
Will Forte said he really misses Val Kilmer.
They were good friends and they became good friends.
I think even before McGroober, he had
Val Kilmer staying with him because Val Kilmer got into some argument with his landlord in Malibu, moved in with Will Forte, and Will Forte says he got Kilmer into reality TV and they loved the amazing race.
And the two of them were going to go on the show together.
They wanted to do it, but their agents totally shut them down and said it would be terrible.
And I thought this was funny because it shows you how much Val Kilmer evolved.
He met...
his wife I can't remember on what movie but she was like this serious actor acting on the west end in Great Britain or whatever that theater district is it's so famous and he was embarrassed that he was doing a real genius and he was brilliant and real genius and real genius is a good movie but he's probably this young idealistic actor and then he wants to go on an amazing race I'm like that's a huge
But he obviously got over that hang up about not doing stuff that was like really high-end or very artsy because there's nothing artsy about reality TV So I think that's actually kind of cool though Will Forte says to this day he regrets not doing that with his friend Val Kilmer There's also folks at the Wisconsin Film Festival Greg Liana and Jim Vince will be here in just a couple minutes talking about their meet the parents screening tomorrow at the Barrymore
There's a movie playing tomorrow night at the Barrymore.
I can't even say the title.
It's got like an R rated word in the title, maybe an NC 17 word.
Remember, he said, I can't say the name of the movie.
Well, I looked it up in the guide today when I got to my hotel and I'm like, I'm definitely going to see this because I'm so curious about the Rolling Stones.
And all you have to do is Google Rolling Stones Movie Wisconsin Film Festival and you'll see the title.
So I'm gonna check that out because I'm curious but lots going on in Madison this weekend if you're around Check out the film festival Milwaukee Film Festival coming up in a couple weeks, too.
So that's exciting Terry Barr is here.
It's a bar ban Friday night Terry will be in studio tonight We'll be making more radio history here on nightlight as Terry Barr joins us in person.
I don't think she's convinced I really exist I think she thinks I'm AI we will prove all of that wrong tonight
When she shows up, Greg, Leanna and Jim Vincent are here too to talk about their screening tomorrow that's coming up after the Civic Media News team tells you what's up.
This is Pete Schwabba and Night Light.
Great to have you with me on this Friday night on the Civic Media Radio
People on the text line are actually saying the name of the movie tomorrow.
So I can't say it on the air.
Oh, there we go.
I can't say it on the air, but it is about the Rolling Stones.
And it's supposed to be, this text says, it's a great decadent concert tour flick.
The
I
Heroine.
Oh, yeah smack
H. I only know this because I watch film noir as kids today these hopheads And then Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says the climb.
I don't like heights.
No that movie either Ladies and gentlemen, it is great to have you with me on this Friday night as I mentioned earlier the Wisconsin Film Festival is currently underway here in Madison.
It kicked off last night Tomorrow at the Barrymore at 1 30 there will be a screening of the original meet the parents.
That doesn't mean the first one
in the big studio world.
That means an original film that we've talked about before on this show that was made by Chicago comedian Greg Liana and produced by Jim Vincent.
They are here with me in the studio right now.
Hey guys.
Are we at 130 or one?
I thought it was
thought I
I always love seeing it with an audience because it gets still gets big laughs and that I don't watch the movie.
I watch the audience.
Yeah.
You know, so
I got a lot of
Yeah.
Great
city.
The movie Logan's run.
Why?
Because everyone's 23 and I feel like they execute the people over 30.
Is that a good thing or bad thing?
No, it's nice.
We're over 30.
I like it.
I like it.
OK.
I always liked Madison.
talked
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we actually 30 years ago, before the film was purchased by Universal to remake it.
OK.
We showed it.
at the Madison Film Festival.
Oh, really?
So this is sort of like a coming back 30 years later.
So yeah, I have no memory of that.
Well, maybe you weren't invited.
You weren't really.
That's probably what it was.
I think you were.
Well, maybe you were in LA.
I don't know.
But so it's sort of it's, you know, it's fun because we when we were here 30 years ago, people really liked the film.
And yeah, we got such a great response from it.
I'm
I haven't seen it with an audience.
When you and I started writing together, the film had been done for 10 years, and I never got to see it in Chicago at a theater.
So I'm probably as excited as anybody to sit with a real audience tomorrow in a great, really cool, old theater and watch this film.
Tell us about the theater.
I haven't been in the theater.
What is the theater?
It's it's like one of those old time theaters with the stars on the ceiling
and a
like
It's
you know,
movie you've ever seen?
It depends when you ask me, if I was a kid, I would say Night of the Living Dead or, you know, Frankenstein or something.
But I think now.
I don't really get scared at movies.
I love the movie 1408 with John Cusack.
You ever see it?
No.
It's this evil hotel room, basically, but I think that's it's not scary, but it's kind of like makes you like, you know.
That's fine.
What about you, Jim?
You like scary movies?
I think the sequel to meet the parents was pretty scary.
But yeah, there's a film with Josh.
I can't think of his last name now.
Um, yeah.
30 days, 30 of nine or something.
Yeah.
30 days of great vampire film.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
It's, it's a, it's a, you know, I can always see it over and over again.
You know what I like about that?
They make vampires scary again.
Yeah.
Lately vampires are like these romantic figures.
They're really just humans that are misunderstood.
I would say I'm old enough to remember when clowns were funny and vampires were scary.
Um, I don't,
actor.
Yeah.
Well, he was he was classically trained.
I mean, he is a really good actor.
He was classically trained as an actor.
And if you look at his series of movies, he's done quite a few movies.
What was the comedy he did in the 80s that with the real genius
or top secret?
Top
Yeah, that was his first big.
Yeah,
all I remember were
right?
There was something with cows they inappropriate cow scenes.
Yeah, but anyways he I There was a documentary he did about his life toward loved it toward the end.
It was fantastic
and
I don't know his name, but and Val Kilmer is just being silly and he's imitating Tom Cruise and making fun of him a little bit.
And there's this great Chris Isaac song.
That was the best part of the whole film.
It just had this great energy, but it was really cool to learn more about Val Kilmer and what he's been going through the last however many years.
Didn't you write a horror film?
Yes.
After we were writing something, you said, I want to write a horror film.
We're still trying to get it made.
We have Tara Reid is going to star in it, and the actress who plays the nun, Bonnie Arons, is going to star in it.
You know the iconic nun scary face?
Oh,
I sat on a backpack when I was walking through a store in Chicago.
But yeah, she's the nun, the evil scary nun.
And I think this is funny.
When we would write late at night, you said, comedy's got to be a nightmare.
You always used to say, I love comedies that are nightmares.
And it's funny that you wrote or you took an interest for a while in horror films because they're like the nightmare without the funny.
Is that a similarity, you see?
It's not dissimilar.
Horror, I think, has a, comedy is a little bit of a connection with horror.
They don't be relatable and things that scare you or make you laugh.
But this was a I just wanted to see if I could do it.
I'm trying to stretch my My writing chops little abilities
All right, let's talk Jim I never really I've talked to you quite a bit Greg over the years when we were right together about meet the parents or when you've been on this show What are your thoughts?
You know you put a lot of blood sweat and tears into this Original film gem.
What do you think of what the studio did?
Were you happy with
it?
Well?
You know, I mean, I guess ultimately people found out about the movie because Universal made it.
Yeah.
Now, we had another offer for the film, actually, to go direct to video.
I know people don't know what that term is anymore, but, you know, for National Lampoon, and they were launching a new video line or something, but it fell through.
That
was the biggest disappointment.
of all for the
sound like a natural fit.
Oh, they put
ads in their magazines, come national impunes, meet the parents.
Yeah, that was a big.
But but you know, I would say, you know, you know, happy with it is an interesting way to put it.
I think there was a lot of frustration, obviously, on Greg's side and my side of kind of how it all kind of came together.
But
You know,
I would be totally happy with their deal if I could release mine.
Yeah,
then otherwise I'd be fine with whatever they did is fine, you know, but that's the only thing about
they've tied up the original film
show and accepted film festivals.
So they're
OK with this.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And having it on YouTube because it's on you don't know the universal police will be here in five minutes.
No,
but I get a copyright infringement thing.
You
it.
I posted it
I know.
The police don't even have to come.
I was trying to come.
They don't.
You know, I was trying to walk that fast.
Half the people at the University of Hawaii aren't even aware there's an Indian meet the parents.
Well, but they, you know, they definitely tied, you know, our hands with it because we had deals to distribute it afterwards on DVD and everybody said we can't touch it because the University will
will, you know, shut us down in 10 seconds because they're legal department.
Now
they're making another sequel, apparently.
Right.
So
that's going to tie it up even more.
But even before that, they just 30 years later, they were just like, no, can't show it, can't release it.
But it's, for some reason, it goes along with this whole adventure, this whole 10 year, 15 year adventure.
I mean, has anything really, you know, I don't know.
I had a universal, when we had the premiere of the new film in LA, Greg and I were there.
By the way, it was in a shopping mall.
And one of the universal executives came up to me and we were talking and she said, look, your film has taken a long time to get to where it's at, which is opening with the new film I'm talking about.
And she said,
a lot of, you know, great films take a long time to happen.
And now, you know, she was talking about like, shouldn't they had just, I think we're releasing Schindler's List or whatever.
But she was saying that film took 10, 15 years to come to the screen.
And
No, no,
But, but, you know, her point was that, you know, it takes time to to let it
kind of become what it is.
But again,
I don't care if it took five years or so.
As long as they let me release mine.
Right.
I don't who cares.
But
it
was a joke with friends of mine.
When does that meet the parents?
Because it just took all these years.
It was like, yes.
I say one, but I could be I say one two, but
two one.
Just show up on every one
a lot of
after the film before the film during the film.
It's just gonna
beg to be
dragged on screen?
Well, you know, Craig is tough with casting, but you played a gas station attendant.
I did.
I did.
Well, the day the day we did that, it was a tough day.
I had I had the flu.
So I was running really high.
I was really out of it.
So, you know, but, you know, you come and you do your job and you do what the director needed to be done.
And but
I think afterwards, I was like, okay, you know, it worked the way the direction Greg had given me.
But again, a tough, it was a hard day because I think we had, yeah, that's true.
But this one, you know, for having the flu, for me, it was a harder day.
That's actually a horror scene.
If you look at
his scene, it's like a horror movie.
Don't do it.
Yeah, I'm going to do a vampire film based on that.
But you know, but it was it was it was a great it was a fun day.
But but
again, what are you talking about?
Well, he was
just
Daily a truck would drive up with problems.
Yeah, we had a phone number on the truck.
The scene we were shooting in the background was a truck and it had a huge phone number that it was prominent in the scene.
And we're like.
You know, so we called them and they're like, you can't show our phone number.
I'm like, okay.
So we had to work around that.
It was a long day.
That's just the kind of stuff that happens.
It's just movies.
Well, I think at the same time you were doing your movie or you did your movie after.
No, I didn't know Greg.
You didn't know Greg.
I
Oh, okay.
So it was well
I was envious.
Like I saw all these Chicago comics.
in this great movie happening.
I was like, oh, I should have started two years ago, assuming I would have got a role, of course.
Greg Glana and Jim Vincent are here.
They are the brains behind the original Meet the Parents, which will be screening.
Trust me, folks, it's hilarious.
I'm going to tell you something that's going to shock you when we come back about Greg's version and how it's better than the studio version.
That's coming up next on Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I've not seen that film.
I remember the song by Was it to know what all boyfriends know it was what was their name?
It's a Butch Vig band.
They were a Wisconsin band.
They had a song called Kill Dozer.
74.
I think it
Was it a movie or a band?
movie.
Oh, it was a movie.
But there's a
Because, like, Lupus is a disease.
Yeah.
Butch Vig before Garbage, and before he produced Nirvana, right down here on East Washington, ahead this band, and that Lupus is a great song.
All right, Greg Beliana is here, folks, and Jim Vincent.
They are the brains behind the original Meet the Parents, which you can see tomorrow at the Barrymore Theater at either one or 1.30.
I'm sure there are still tickets available because it's a huge theater, although I understand they have a pretty good crowd coming out.
Come at 1.30, you'll miss Jim's scene.
you come at 2
30 you'll miss all of Greg
No, that was That was the easiest part of it.
I think the
Okay, I just had to keep a straight face
a
He
Well, different.
He was more every man where De Niro was the CIA paranoid guy.
right?
he
salesman.
That's what he did his whole life.
Okay, and he lived in Park Ridge and I
that's a
Well, he was he I think he had
a really just human touch to who he was and
and every now and then there was something that was just too big that I have to Like once who's ready for roast beef you go And you know I tried to get him to stop but we did a couple takes final the cameraman's like just don't worry But he and there's one scene that gets a big laugh from the audience and I used it Dick was waiting for me to say action
on one take of something.
So he's just sitting there with a straight face and I use that as a reaction.
It's a big
this
Oh yeah.
say?
I was turning the handle and it broke off.
I threw it under the car.
No, they said, what'd you do with it?
I threw it under the car.
But that scene, I wanted a shot of the boat in the middle of the lake, a long shot.
And somebody forgot the battery or didn't charge the batteries.
Where were we filming?
That was out by... Wakanda.
Wakanda.
We had to drive into Chicago, get a battery.
So we started shooting at like three o'clock, racing the setting sun, and we couldn't get that shot.
I didn't I mean I'm sure
I'm sure it bothers you, but like didn't bother anybody else You know exactly what talk about our emo Phillips around the time this film was made He was still a pretty big name on Letterman a lot or the Tonight Show outstanding comedian and you guys are friends What was it like working with him like you were friends, but he also kind of financed part of the film or the whole thing I don't know all the whole story, but and then he was in the film too,
but he had nothing
When we were filming it he was off on the road.
I mean he was the best kind of investor.
He didn't okay, you know But yeah, we did hit the scene he's in But we had to raise another like 10,000 or what it was and I had to show him some you know I was worried because he hadn't seen any of it
but I showed him the long take where Mary Ruth sings that song, you know And he was like doubled over laughing so we got the extra 10,000 all
murder.
I did an interview earlier today and the host was like, I thought that song was beautiful.
I was like, you're the only person in the history of the world to ever say that.
is
Were you guys surprised at how easy this seemed?
Like we just said, emo.
Finance the film you got to do pretty much whatever you want, right?
And I remember when we were going to meetings in LA that would frustrate you because you're dealing with studios who are saying completely inane things and I I had to realize after a while.
I'm like, oh, yeah, Greg's used to just a Guy giving you a check and saying go do this.
That's got to
It's never happened since
Well, we had we had made a couple short films before that so You know, but you know growing up, I mean Greg Greg it was very into movies and and I was in the movies we actually liked horror movies early on the universal monster series movies we watched as kids but I you know, I think you know the fact that we
had known each other you know it was it was it just you know seemed to fit but I mean you know on the set it was it was me trying to move things along as the producer and you know Greg was trying to get the scenes that he needed
but basically I went to Imo for the money and then I called Jim and I said what's the least amount of money that we can do this film for
and look so he put the budget together like thirty thousand that's what i asked
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