
I am Pete Schwabble, ladies and gentlemen.
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We have Kristen Lighty coming up at 7.20.
She'll be here in the studio talking about several shows she has coming up.
Right now, we have a few more minutes with our friend, Bob Giacchini.
Bob, do you have a role that you... Oh, let me ask you this first.
What are your favorite kind of roles to play?
I think roles that contain the...
the full dimension of what a human being is.
we talked earlier about stereotypes or about cliches.
And so even if you encounter a role that just feels like it's one thing, as an actor, you're always trying to fill that person out.
That person is somebody's kid.
You know
I mean?
somebody somewhere probably cares about that person, even if they're this like irrefutable villain.
So, you know, I look for parts that just have that full breadth of humanity, you know, and not just centered on one aspect of their personality, their occupation.
You know, it's fun to play villains.
You know, maybe more fun to play villains than it is to play heroes.
And usually when it's fun to play a villain, it's because that villain is also charming.
You know, it's less fun to play a villain who's not.
I think that's an impossible question to answer.
Well, give me one of, you
Yeah.
I mean, because acting experiences aren't just about the role, you know?
It's an experience that involves a teamwork, you know?
And in theater and in film, there's lots of other people involved, you know?
And that experience invariably...
affects and becomes part of your performance or your experience of the performance.
So when you're asked, you know, what did you, so, you know, so for instance, the Godfather, you know, that, that, that's a legendary franchise, you know, and many of the legendary people that made it so were a part of that production that I was in.
And so that, that, that was amazing.
where we shot was amazing.
When I did War of the Worlds, I only shot for about a week or so on that film.
But what was most memorable about it was working with Steven Spielberg and Tom Cruise and getting to experience firsthand what all the commotion is about, what all the praise is about.
because for me, that became unmistakably obvious and visceral.
That it's not, well, I mean, this is an understatement, but it's not an accident.
Why people feel the way they do about those artists.
But there are other like straight up parts that...
I played, I got an opportunity to play Hamlet.
I mean, that was, you know, an amazing experience.
I think I mentioned earlier, we were talking about the passion of Dracula, that part of Renfield is hilarious to play.
I've played, there's a playwright called Shem Vitterman.
He's a screenplay writer and a playwright.
He's written a couple of plays that we did premieres of here in LA and New York that most people haven't heard of, you know, but
I really, really enjoyed working on the roles that Shem wrote.
And I've done like three, three or four of his plays.
One was a hard driving Uber liberal journalist who worked for like The Guardian.
Another guy was a high ranking fixer operative for the Republican administration.
They're just really fun.
roles that that encompassed like I said like a kind of a well-rounded aspect of you know what a human being is regardless of you know what occupation they fill um so I guess I haven't really answered your question
You're an actor who finds those things.
So you kind of presented that in a way like where you'll find something great about the role.
And that's what you have to do.
That was actually a great answer.
Thanks.
Bob, I'm a huge fan.
Thank you so much for your time tonight.
I hope we could do this again.
That'd
be great, Pete.
Anytime.
You too, Pete.
Thanks so
Thanks so much, Bob.
Have a great night.
All right, that's Bob Schenie.
Check him out in The Cleaning Lady, folks.
Very popular show, and Bob does great work.
I've seen him in so many roles, and he just brings his A-game.
I'll have to ask him next time about directing.
I wanted to get there, but we were running out of time, so.
Kristen Lighty will be here in a few minutes in the studio.
Todd Michaels checks in on the stream and says, rat tail.
There
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Those should be retired forever.
So we were talking about Snow White.
And this is incredible.
This is one of the lowest-rated movies ever on IMDb.
And I almost wonder if that's some kind of campaign that people, like, it got a mid-40s on Rotten Tomatoes.
Critics don't love it.
did okay at the box office, underperformed slightly, 75% of audiences like it, but a 1.8 user rating on IMDB, that is incredible.
There's a hundred titles.
Disaster movie one point nine.
Super babies, baby genius is two one point five.
Kirk Cameron's saving Christmas one point three.
And these are thousands and thousands of votes, not quite eighty six thousand.
House of the Dead, Son of the Mask.
Oh, Son of the... Oh, God.
I have a story about Son of the Mask.
Jamie Kennedy decided he was gonna follow Jim Carrey in that role.
Jim Carrey was in the mask.
Jamie Kennedy, we sold... Greg Glanna, who has been on this show, he and I sold a script of Warner Brothers called Dream Girl.
It was like a Notting Hill meets Fatal Attraction, crazy comedy.
We had Jack Black in mind.
Anyway, we sold it and Jamie Kennedy wanted to do it.
But he decided to do Son of the Mask first.
And it kind of, I don't want to say it killed his career, but he had just done Malibu's most wanted, which was a success.
And Son of the Mask was kind of a bomb.
And all I could remember thinking, because I loved Jamie Kennedy, he's so talented.
I'm like, why would you follow Jim Carrey?
He should have done Dream Girl.
But that got a 2.4.
Snow White is lower than Son of the Mask.
Why
you do this
presentation?
Because I mean, you know how to do it.
What I really want, honestly, Michael, is for you to know it so that you can communicate it to the people here, to your clients, to whomever.
Okay.
What?
It's whomever, not
whomever.
No, whomever is never actually right.
Well, sometimes it's right.
Michael is right.
It's a made-up word used to trick students.
No.
Actually,
know what's right, but I'm not gonna say.
Because you're all jerks who didn't come see my band last night.
Do you really know which one is correct?
I don't know.
It's whom when it's the object of the sentence and who when is the subject.
That sounds
right.
It sounds right, but is it?
How did Ryan use it as an object?
As an object.
Ryan used me as an object.
Did you worry about that?
How did he use it again?
It was Ryan wanted Michael, the subject, to explain the computer system, the object to whomever, meaning us, the indirect object, which is the correct usage of the word.
No one asked you anything ever.
So whomever's name is Toby, why don't you take a letter opener and stick it into your skype?
This doesn't matter.
And I don't even care.
Michael, you quit the other job you're fired here.
object and then my favorite Michael Scott line maybe ever is When he says he hates Toby so much because Toby is always foiling his jokes or whatever and he says if I was trapped in a room with Hitler
Osama Bin Laden and Toby and I had a gun with two bullets.
I'd shoot Toby twice.
AJ checks in on the text line.
The 608, she says, hello, Pete and Conrad.
Facial hair is great as long as it's clean and works well on your face.
I would love to see you grow a beard out, Pete.
Thank you, AJ.
Just be aware hot weather will be here soon.
Did you ever grow facial hair out that you liked?
Interesting.
I'll answer that when we come back, and we will be back in just a moment, folks.
And Kristen Lighty will join us in the studio.
Northeastern Wisconsin-based comedian.
She's got a lot going on.
We'll talk about it next on Nightlight with Pete Chihuahua.
I'm the Civic Media Radio Network.
It's the one where you're talking about the haunted house for adults.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, I'm good.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
What a treat.
No, I'm not.
Because you have that comedian delivery.
Yeah, what a treat.
This is fun.
Our question tonight.
All right, I'm gonna ask Kristen two things out of the gate.
This is just like an icebreaker, because we haven't seen each other in a few months.
I think, not that we need that.
I consider you one of my best friends.
I don't know if I told you that last time.
I brought the
bracelet.
I will answer it though.
Like if it was
magical world where I could drink, it would be stout beer.
Stout beer, okay.
That was my favorite thing in the world.
no, no, no, no.
It's been seven years.
I'm good.
Hey, nice
Yeah.
It's weird how crazy you feel when you aren't putting poison in your body.
I'm always pro beard.
I love
So I would say go for it.
They do, yeah.
You know, we hide our double, double chins.
If I could, I would, you know.
Playmates might be very generous.
Maybe it took Dynasty.
I'm good.
good.
Yeah, I'm really excited about a lot of stuff happening lately.
Yeah, so don't tell is actually like a national production team and they've helped local comics really get around all the terrible work of producing comedy shows, which we do not like.
We just want to be on stage
joke.
So they've created this magical formula.
where through advertising somehow, they just get sold out shows in almost nearly every night that they're running a show in every city throughout the country.
yeah.
little fight club for comedy.
Yes.
Actually, John Egan and I and Trevor Klumpner are the ones who run it together.
Yeah.
And it's, you know, it's a BYOB comedy experience that partners with local businesses.
So you don't know where you're going as a audience member until the day of the show.
So that's kind of exciting.
so cool.
And the premise is, you know, you're surprised and delighted then by where you end up.
because it's not somewhere you would traditionally think you'd see a comedy show.
Like we've done them at Safe Haven, Animal Sanctuary, Green Bay UFO Record Store, Blind's Mouth Bookstore, you know.
Yeah, pretty fun places.
think the BIOB factor really pulls them in and they're
Fun beverage.
Yep.
So we've got shows this Friday in the Appleton area and then Saturday in Green Bay.
We've got a headliner coming in from Detroit.
He's very funny.
Oh yeah.
They get an email the morning of sometimes the day before
tells them everything.
Okay.
So it's kind of like a fun scavenger hunt for your night out.
Oh,
I decided I want to make something truly scary, right?
For people my age, maybe a haunted house for those of us in our 40s.
First room, you walk in.
It's a financial planning session where they tell you how much you should have already saved for retirement.
It's so much,
guys.
Next room, it's everyone you went to high school with in their multi-level marketing scheme.
Oh, that was a tempered laugh.
Oh, crap.
Do we have exciting opportunities for me here tonight?
You don't have a 401k You don't have any of that stuff and that's why maybe I probably like that bit so much But I remember there used to be a group called the National Association for the Self-Employed and they offered you insurance and all that and I was like this is great and it was crazy expensive But how do you do you just have to be?
Sharper about that stuff and more informed as a comedian.
I think a lot of people have rich parents and that I've heard is really helpful Damn, you know,
Yeah No, I think you know most of us have day jobs and helps us in this economic nightmare that we live in like I I have a day job that I actually love very much I work for the teachers union and I think
You know, it is hard to be a full-time comedian because if you're depending on jobs to get paid, it can also start to affect your narrative and what you want to say.
And that's something I didn't want to do.
They do.
I think it's very easy to get caught up in rhetoric that is scapegoating and hateful and it just turns you against your values.
And I think that lately there's been a real push to, you know, really dive into this sense of individualism and ignore the collective.
And, you know, certain things have to exist for the betterment of society, you know, like we need schools, healthcare, education, all these things we need.
to be a better society, and if we keep gutting it, it's not gonna be great to be here.
Yeah, I hate that.
I
know, it's kind of selfish, because I know I do fine, because I can kick a lot of ass, right Conrad?
You've seen me out there.
All right, Kristen Lighty is here.
We are gonna jump back more into her comedy.
If you wanna talk more about your day job, we can do that.
Do you ever hire leg breakers as a union person?
And we don't talk about that.
I have not.
Um, uncomfortably, yes.
That's what
I know.
I was like, I got a text from my mom.
I'm like, I take it back.
Don't watch White Lowness.
You don't like to live in the suspense with us?
It's so fun.
In fact, I started watching the show called Dope Thief the other night.
I'm like, eh, all right, a drug thing.
So I got into it, and I'm like, all right, cool.
And it's like, I watched three episodes this weekend, and it's just.
Oh, you got to wait till Friday now.
It's like, well, I don't like it that much.
You know, like I would have stuck with it.
Kristen Lighty is here.
Northeast Wisconsin based comedian from here in Green Bay, actually.
She's joining me in the studio.
And did I ask you?
OK, so facial hair, where are you at with that?
I try to shave like once a week.
shave my legs once
I'm pro facial hair.
You're pro facial hair.
That's right.
Just saying I don't I don't know if she means I guess she means my wife's the boss when it comes to facial hair That makes sense.
I don't think my wife cares.
What does that say about my marriage?
Honey do whatever you want grow a curly Q mustache if you want Tom from New Berlin says love Hi, oh hyena by REM hyena I
because
Yeah, this is my time.
at
Tell us where
Yeah, the first week of April, I'm doing a fun little run with my friend Madalynna Martin.
We're going to co-headline some shows.
He's out of Bloomington, Indiana.
And so we're going to be Thursday night.
We're going to be, you know, clear at Clearwater comedy.
And then Friday night, we're going to be at the Laughing Tap in Milwaukee, which is one of my favorite rooms.
I love the people there.
Wonderful.
And then Saturday night, we're going to be at the Comedy Cabin down in Jamesville, which I have not done yet, but I've heard great things.
that
Yeah.
Greg is amazing.
And I love him.
is this,
There's a comic from Chicago named Jimmy Higgins who's no longer with us, but he was just hilarious.
And he, he tried to stop drinking and he thought he tied it to comedies.
Like I got to get out of comedy clubs.
So he moves to Omaha, Nebraska and gets a job in a meat, he's trying to get a job in a meat packing
He's been doing stand-up for 20 years.
And,
The guy says, do you have a resume or whatever?
And the guy says, I've been a standup comic for the last 20 years.
And the guy who runs the meatpacking plant says, do you have a tape?
Oh, I love it.
Do you have favorite rooms to work, Kristen, in Wisconsin or out of Wisconsin?
Yeah, I actually, I really love tea he's in Des Moines, Iowa.
And I love the laughing tap in Milwaukee.
Yeah.
You know and that's a room that's run by comics Greg being one of them Yeah, so I feel like they just really understand how to run a good show.
I also really love the laughing liberally shows I just did one last night in Madison and they had like 50 people packed into a room no bigger than Whoa,
Yeah, and it was really fun Where is that
so they do it at?
Min Minakwa brewing company
Oh, yeah, in East Wash.
Yes, they have a tap room there.
Okay, sure.
And then in Milwaukee, they do it at Comedy Sports.
wow,
What
Yeah, well, I started in Chicago, so I always love to go back and visit there.
You know, I go to Austin, but I have a very set...
crew of people that I work with there, mostly through the Altercation Comedy Fest, because there's been an influx of bros to Austin.
Of what?
Wait, influx of what?
Like Joe Rogan bros.
We won't go into that.
I don't want to get you hate mailed.
now I
That's my personal opinion.
It's gotten real weird in
Yeah, I would say that narrative is becoming profitable, so a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon.
I know people who don't.
Putting their cowboy hats on.
Yes, and I
Who
whatever.
They're just making money, baby.
Gotta
Oh, yeah.
So the second week of April, I'm very lucky.
Skyline is having me host Harlan Williams.
We're doing five shows Thursday through Saturday.
Nice.
I'm super excited.
He's a total legend.
And I just really love when I get to work with people that I want to watch.
Yeah.
You know, like I watch every show.
Right.
I'm a comedy nerd.
And he, some of you might remember him.
He was in Dumb and Dumber.
He was the motorcycle cop who pulls over Jeff Daniels and Jim Carrey.
And very funny guy, does a lot of good movie work.
But when I worked with him at the Laugh Factory in Chicago in the mid-90s, who was actually out in Aurora, Harlan in the middle of his set sang the song Beth by
I love that he chose a ballot too.
Right, yeah.
Not even like a jam.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Brian Postain, I got to work with him two weeks ago in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
And I just love watching him.
He's so friendly and personable.
And like whenever people approach him for autographs and stuff, he's always like so kind and willing to take the time.
He's a really great guy.
And, yeah, John Capurulo is really fun to work with, Bobcat Goldsway.
clubs?
No kidding.
He was actually just here at the Epic Center not too long ago.
Oh,
And Lori Kilmartin was amazing to feature for.
And Kate Willett, I just...
I love watching stand-up from people I respect.
I could do it.
I could do it 24-7.
That's not what I want.
Kristen Lighty is here in the studio.
She is a Green Bay-based stand-up comic.
Got a lot of dates coming up in April.
You can see her at the Skyline Cafe in April with Harlan Williams.
I highly recommend that show because Kristen's hilarious.
Harlan's very funny.
And then you have, in June...
You said, I'll be on the Warped tour in DC.
What is that?
So the Warped tour is kind of, it got really big in the 90s, and it was like a punk rock music festival.
So they're bringing it back, and honestly, I only recognize two bands, Fishbone and the Axymoron.
Fishbone?
Yeah, I see.
Yeah, so through my record label that I'm on, I'm on Burn This Records out of LA.
And their whole vibe is sort of, you know, like we want to give working class comics who are sort of like more ulty and fringe, a voice and a way to get into industry.
So Brandy Posey, our record label, I guess she'd be the CEO.
She was in talks with...
Warped Tour and they're gonna have a comedy stage and we're gonna be on it.
Yeah, I'm pretty excited.
And
Yep, Washington DC in June and then Orlando in November.
you
Yeah, I haven't done an episode in a while, but it's, I have a guest on and we chat about their favorite horror movie and we talk about the themes in it and how they relate to it personally.
So it's more of like...
you know, personal storytelling as opposed to, like, movie trivia.
And that's called Bloody Mary.
I love horror movies, I think.
They're so fun.
Oh, yeah, I did love The Bloody Mary, too.
Although I was trying to figure out, like, did I love Bloody Mary's or was I just poor and hungry?
And it came with all the accoutrements.
And I just talked about Jimmy Higgins, who was a very funny guy.
I know so many comedians that had too much to drink from time to time.
Do you find that not drinking helps your creativity or stunts it at times?
Because a lot of people say, and I remember the writer, Paul Schrader, who wrote Taxi Driver said, drink, no, he said, right drunk, edit sober.
What was your experience from not drinking or drinking to not drinking?
Yeah, I actually quit drinking before I went on stage two years into comedy.
because I was like, I'm slurring my words.
I'm not sharp.
I don't like this.
And I used to be, I still am pretty much someone who writes on stage.
Like I'll have a premise floating around and then I kind of work it out on stage.
So if I'm not sharp, it doesn't work.
And I think, you know, everyone has their own process, but for me, getting sober has meant being really comfortable in my own skin and getting okay with that.
So I think that is my process to just go out on stage and be like, Hey, I got an idea.
Maybe it's good.
Maybe it's not.
Terrifying.
It's fun.
I like it.
That's my high now.
That's what I think.
Yeah, I'll usually get an idea of something that makes me laugh or something that frustrates me and I'll make a little note in my phone and then, you know, as I'm kind of going about my day and working and cleaning my house, I'll be like, oh, that's a funny tag.
Yeah.
And I'll kind of like have all these little puzzle pieces and then they just kind of co-mingle in my brain until it makes sense.
Like it's kind of rooting around in my subconscious.
I would say usually it's about three times, third time's the charm, but the first time it feels so good, because it's like lightning shooting through you, like, ah, it's new.
It's fun to try
And now, like all the jokes on my album, I love them, but like they just bore me.
It's like, I know they'll hit, but I'm like, ugh.
I don't want to do them.
20 minutes
No.
I'll take that as a no.
You know, I have been, since the album came out, I've been trying to do, every time I do a set, at least half of it be new material.
And then I know I can go into the security of the old material that I know will work.
And so like last night, I did 10 new minutes and that felt really good.
Wow.
And yeah, there was just a short little set.
So I actually, I love short sets.
I think they're very fun.
I
for
that.
But
dating's weird.
We get it.
I love featuring.
If I could financially feature, I would make that my whole life.
There's no pressure on you.
You get to have fun.
You're not doing the work of hosting.
Probably,
This is Nightlight with Peach Wama.
Thanks for hanging with me on a Tuesday.
Steady Eddie texted from the 608.
He says, Pete, in 1982, I decided on a friend's dare to grow a beard.
What happened next would change my life.
As my beard grew out, I began to get the urge to spend more and more time in the great outdoors.
Think Grizzly Adams.
I sold my house, divorced my wife.
and abandoned my children.
He's taken this beard thing seriously.
I didn't know that was part of the drill.
In a days for weeks, I wandered amongst the oaks and pines deep in the Chihuahua McGon National Forest of Northern Wisconsin.
Suffering complete exhaustion, somehow a magical giant elk found me and led me the refuge of an abandoned bear den.
I lived there in the Great Forest for 21 years.
Wow.
I am now writing a novel about my experience.
So to answer your question, Pete, should you grow a beard?
Yeah, go for it.
What's the worst that could
happen?
I don't know, man.
This feels like a cautionary tale.
I live with the bears now.
As always, great fun from Steady Eddie.
So Kristen Lighty is my guest.
She is a Green Bay based comedian.
Lots of fun stuff coming up.
You can see her in Appleton at the Skyline Comedy Cafe in April or through, oh, you got Eau Claire, Janesville, Milwaukee coming up.
Where can people find out so they can have your schedule?
Yeah, that's a great question.
have this website I made
all my dates on it, and you can get links to all the shows and figure out where I'll be.
And if you want to stalk me, it's all there too.
I mean, why
Figuratively
Look, if she wants to be stalked, folks, stalk, I'm not going to stand in her way.
So we talked during the break, you're going to see Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross.
And I immediately think small and think it's like at the Depear Children's Community Theater or something.
You're going to see the kids do that one.
You're going to see the actual.
Glengarry Glen Ross.
That's exciting.
Tell us about that.
Yeah.
You know, I was working with Brian Poseidon and he was talking about how excited he was to go see it.
And then I heard Bill Burr talking on the radio about it.
And I was like, well, you know what?
This is what money's for.
never been to New York.
So me and the boyfriend, we bought some tickets and I just won't think about how much they were ever
And it's going to be fun.
Oh no, two tickets for, you know, and I sparged a little on the seats, like I didn't go lowest here.
Well, I'm springing for tickets, boyfriend's paying airfare in hotel.
okay.
The tickets, two of them together were 900 bucks.
I know, I know, let's not talk about it.
Do
also, I'm turning 45 this year.
It is during my birthday.
And I wanted to have a big 40th, but COVID kind of had other plans.
So I figured this is the big birthday.
I
Shut
That's also a plug for not drinking.
Well, and you're incredibly immature.
That's where I was going with that.
Tom from New Berlin says, Pete, awesome, love our listeners.
Thank you, Tom.
Tom's awesome.
All right, so you're gonna go see, it's Bill Burr, Bob and Colkin Kirk, fantastic.
And then there was another- Kieran Culkin.
Kieran Culkin,
wow.
Oh, it's
remember his name.
Michael from Spinal Tap, Michael McKeon.
McKeon, yes, he's in
don't remember offhand.
Yeah, I don't remember.
Oh, it's definitely Karlin.
Like, I have a few of his albums on vinyl from my grandfather, and we would just listen to them.
And, you know, there was a very healthy anti-authority, authoritarian
in the house and, you know, like all
art.
just kind of reflected that.
So, Carlin, we were naturally drawn to.
That's kind
No, mine was too, but my parents, I would say, were sort of not uptight, but they were like more... Like, I would hear Carlin go, I don't think I'm supposed to be hearing this.
You know what I mean?
Whereas with my kids, they were dropping F-bombs around me in middle school, and I didn't want that too, but my wife encouraged it, so I just kind of went with it.
Truth.
But, you know, it's nice that you can listen to that.
I can listen to comedy like that with my kids, but you were listening to Carlin with your grandpa.
That's really kind of cool.
Yeah, and I granted a lot of it when over my head, but you know, I think I absorbed the
That one I got.
Oh, and the Cheech and Chong records.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, Teehee, I don't know why these guys are so silly.
Severance, it's my favorite show.
I tried to get my mom to watch it.
I was like, mom, you gotta watch it.
It's about this evil corporation that controls everyone's brains.
And she said, I worked at Humana for 30 years.
I'm not watching it.
It's such a good metaphor for organizing, too.
great.
It's a great show.
Fantastic.
Kristen Leidy, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Keep us posted.
I will.
All right.
Thank you to Kristen and thank you to Bob Gicchini who is here talking about the cleaning lady.
Thank you for all of your texts and calls.
As always, another fun night here at Nightlight.
We'll be back to do it all again tomorrow.
Who do we have tomorrow, Conrad?
We've got 100 things to do in Door County before you die, authors.
Tamara and Jean will be here.
And then after that, we have, oh, Ethan Ogilby.
writer of the threesome which will play at the Wisconsin Film Festival.
We'll be joining us from California over the stream.
Thank you so much everybody for being part of the show tonight.
Thank you to the lovable producer Conrad.
Good night