Movies & Bosch (Hour 2)

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Movies & Bosch (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Mar 19, 2025

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a man barely six feet tall but a mountain of muscle.

Pete Chwaba.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night.

Sadly, I'm not in downtown Green Bay tonight because of the weather.

Be careful out there, folks.

It is ugly.

Coming up in just a few minutes, Rob Thomas, a Madison film critic who is the CityCast Madison newsletter editor.

We'll talk to Rob.

He's one of our best pals here at Nightlight.

And Bridget checked in on the text line and said, the NCAA tournament is her favorite as well.

I would say the NCAA tournament is leading the way.

Our question of the night is what is your favorite sporting event?

And Conrad and I both say the NCAA tournament and Scott Klase, our guest who is joining us from the show, Bosch.

It's not like he's on the set or anything.

He's probably at home kicking back, stretching out for the tournament tomorrow, but he is with us as well.

And that is also his favorite sporting event too.

So nice when the guests and all the textures and the hosts align.

Uh, Scott, it's so great to have you here, buddy.

It's great to hear your voice.

I want to tell you that, uh, since I'm doing the show from home tonight, both kids happen to be home today.

It's a spring break.

They're all upstairs listening and we're like, we can't believe we're listening to Scott Klase right now.

So tomorrow I'm going to call you and let's catch up because I want to know what's going on with you guys as well.

So we'd love to.

Hey, um, real quick, um, are you a Wisconsin Badger fan?

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I am.

I, you know, I grew up in Chicago for the first like 12 years of my life and I was an Illinois fan and, um, but they kind of, I kind of, you know, I lived in Wisconsin for high school and then I would come to visit here as a kid and I just loved Wisconsin.

I switched to the Badgers probably about mid 90s because Illinois ticked me off so much.

Like they got so close and hoops.

They had some great

games.

The football team was

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terrible, but Wisconsin built such a great program here.

It was hard not to be a fan.

We can't quite get into the upper echelon like Ohio State is, but I'm hoping, you know, maybe it's something.

You know what?

I think

they have a really good team this year.

I think they're going to be one of my 10 teams.

I'm going to do four entries, one with Flynn, one with Delaney and two myself.

But I'm going to pick Wisconsin, at least two of them.

I know they're only

a three

seed, but I like their makeup.

I like the way they play.

I

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do too.

They can be very boring at times, but this year with picking up Tanjay, they're just a fun team.

Tanjay, too many Christmas.

I never even heard of that guy.

I didn't either before this year.

And now, but now here's the thing.

We're in the same region with Duke, who I just want to scream because in 2015, I host a show on PBS TV here in Wisconsin too.

Right.

And I had a recording day and I brought.

My kids with me in 2015, they were still pretty young, but I said, this is going to be amazing.

Madison is going to be insane.

You guys are coming with me.

And then they had the game and they blew it.

And every year it seems like they're in the same region with Duke and I want to pull my hair up.

Well, I tell you, the only way they'll play Duke is it would be to go to the final four.

They'd meet in the regional finals.

Boy

that

would be nice though.

I think they could take do they play really good defense your badgers That's one

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thing that

always bodes well in the tournament if they can really get stops So we'll see

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yeah, we'll see and you know what I don't want to I'm not saying this will happen Scott, but I do still have four years of eligibility If they need you only if

they need

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you I'm here if the phone rings.

That's all I'm saying

Let me ask you something.

OK, so you're the watch commander.

You play Mank on Bosch Legacy, which drops March 27th.

Very exciting.

Who's been some of your favorite act?

You have over 100 credits, Scott.

You work as a really cool people.

Who have been some of the best actors and directors you've worked with?

Well, that's a good one.

Well, obviously, I'm a little biased towards one particular actor on Bosch, and that's Titus.

Titus is one of those guys.

I'd seen him a million times but he's just there's a saying if number one on the call sheet basically meaning the star is a happy person it'll be a happy set and

you know

that's one of the reasons we've been around so long he sets the tone he's very talented but he's also just a talented human being as a person

Pete Schwaba

um wait that's interesting you say that because he he plays such a good curmudgeon

You know what I mean?

The fact that you just said he's happy.

I think Jamie McShane, who was on the show a couple of weeks, said the same thing about him.

Like, people love this guy.

Yeah.

I mean, that's what my manager said when I first was offered the gig.

I said, what do you know about this guy?

I don't know a lot about him other than he's got one of the best reputations in town.

And I was like, really?

Jamie, boy, there's a, yeah, Jamie McShane.

There's an actor who you'll see me with on this coming season, who I've been with before a few times.

He came back for this season of Bosh Legacy.

He hasn't been around on every season of Bosh.

His name is Paul Calderon.

Do you know Paul Calderon?

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Yeah, he plays

Jimmy

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Robertson, right?

Jimmy Robertson?

Yeah.

You

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want to talk about a really good

actor?

We have a scene together in this season.

that is probably in my top three of all my boss scenes.

I just have a phenomenal scene with him.

Even

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the

producers and some of the other folks who were involved in editing and putting it together and see the shows ahead of time.

have called me and said, hey, you got to check it.

It really turned out great.

So I'm really excited to see that.

But he's been in everything.

I mean, he was in

King

of New York with Christopher Walken and Pulp Fiction.

He's the bartender.

Yeah.

He's just, he's a really great guy.

He's a New Yorker.

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Everything he's in, he kind of elevates it.

He's like one of those actors.

Totally.

He brings cash to whatever, wherever he shows up.

Obviously, you knew about the Seinfeld thing and where I was on this series finale of Seinfeld

years

ago.

It's

like my

third job in LA.

That probably had the most impact on me because I was just newly here.

I'd done some things, but nothing like that.

And I likened it to being at like Shelly, who's my wife for your listeners, being at her high school reunion because everybody on the finale had done the show before.

They brought all

those

characters back.

And I was like one of the only guys on the show that had never done the show before.

And it was just, I was just like sitting and watching and just being fascinated by just all of them, you know?

It was a great experience for me.

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That's so cool to have that as a credit and get on the last show.

We have another guest who's on frequently named Johnny Bean, a great comic.

He was the last comic, the last new comic booked on Letterman.

like he got in just under the wire.

I love hearing stories like that.

So and what a sign felt like maybe the greatest sitcom ever.

So I still watch it, you know, it

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still

holds up.

I mean, I hung out with Keith Hernandez and Jerry Stiller pretty much every day.

Jerry Stiller.

one of my favorites and he was just happy somebody knew who he was, you know, when you get to be that age.

Yeah, you would think, you know, you would think, oh, people don't want you to come up and say, you know, stuff like, oh, I really enjoy your work.

Trust me, 90% of the people do.

They like that.

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Yeah,

I'm carrying that, you know, we're all looking for validation of some kind.

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Sure.

Well, here, I'll tell you this story that you'll remember, I think we actually touched on this last time you were here, but talk about validation.

You and I were at a Dodgers game with the kids.

And we're leaving.

And this humongous, like gangbanger type guy face and neck tattoos piercing up to you.

And I think this guy is going to take a swing at you.

I'm

like,

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what did Scott do while I went to the bathroom or something?

But this guy just walks up and he tells you you're like his favorite actor.

Every

every muscle in my body turned to stone.

And I thought, oh, my God, this is it.

This

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is how it

ends.

Local man killed a Dodger game, film 11.

Oh, that's

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fantastic.

Scott, one more question before we let you go.

What would you, what director is out there that you would do anything to work with?

That's an easy, I can answer that without even thinking about it.

His name is David Fincher.

I love his films.

I saw seven.

The day it came out, I was in New York City.

We were visiting Shelley's sister over Thanksgiving.

I don't know what year it was, but it was late 90s, I think.

And it was raining out in New York, and I went to the afternoon showing of it.

And I realized at one point I was sitting on the very edge of my chair, leaning towards the screen.

And I was so blown away by that movie.

I've seen all of his films many times.

I just really think he's one of the best out there.

And Jamie's worked with him.

Jamie McShane has worked with him.

He did that.

Mank, speaking, talking about synchronicity.

You know, he Mankiewicz in that

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movie.

That's right.

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Yeah.

He said he's got a part on the Bosch legacy this season.

Just maybe a couple episodes.

I don't think he plays that same character.

So I don't know if you guys are in the same episode, but that's cool.

We

are, but we don't cross paths, but I

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do

talk about him, believe it or not.

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Oh,

really?

My character talks about it.

Yeah,

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all the more reason I'm aware of

him.

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Yeah.

Oh, that's great.

And you're I think we talked about this last time too, folks, if you haven't seen Bosch.

And you want to see Scott, he's in one of my favorite scenes on Bosch season three, I think it is right kind of towards the end of the season It's the one we discussed this last time briefly Scott where Jerry gets shot

And there's

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a rescue and he manages he's laying Dying in his driveway manages to get to his phone and you're the one he calls the watch commander and you're

right

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through the Find his address and call and you're talking to him tell him to stay hang in there It was it was great acting, but it was just it was amazing

That

had a thank you, by the way, first of all, I still remember the director of that, Ernest Dickerson, but we did this thing where like I'm joking around with people in the precinct when the phone initially rings and I answer the phone and I'm almost like saying something to somebody else like, yeah, then what did he do?

And it's, you know, Jerry on the other line.

And when I finally realized it's him and he's been shot, I've seen this in other movies.

I slowly stand up like you know to kind of figure out what's going on and

the

camera goes up with me.

I just think it's a cool shot and it just kind of brings everything like almost like when somebody's been a hallway and all of a sudden the hallway like.

you know, goes on forever, like something they do with the camera.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Pete Schwaba

Yes, I know exactly what he's talking

about.

Yeah, I love stuff like that.

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And I watched it.

I've watched the scene several times.

My son Joe and I watched it.

You know, he's interested in acting and all this.

So that one scene.

And maybe it is my favorite scene in the whole series.

So if you have not seen Bosch, check it out.

You've got, I think, seven seasons to watch, and then three

Bosch

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legacy.

And my buddy, Scott here, who has spent some time with us, is in every season.

I think you're the only cast member to do that, Scott.

So congrats.

And hey, this was fun tonight, buddy.

Let's do it again.

Good luck with the new season.

And I'll give you a ring tomorrow.

Katie, please do.

Until Joe and Kate, I said, hey.

You got it.

Same to Flynn and Delaney, buddy.

Have a good one.

All right, buddy.

All

right.

Bye-bye.

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Got Clay's ladies and gentlemen.

Check out Bosch.

He does great work on that show and everything he's in.

He's a really phenomenal actor.

It was fun.

Conrad, how we doing?

We're doing good.

Got about 30

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seconds.

30 seconds to what?

We just got here.

To the great.

Oh, not till the show's over.

Okay.

To the great

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news.

All right.

We're coming right back with Rob Thomas from CityCast Madison.

And we're going to talk movies and TV like we always do, and it's a blast with Rob.

Stick around, folks.

It's Pete Schwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

All right We are barreling through a really really sucky spring night here in Wisconsin or maybe a love it I don't know.

I did just look out the window.

It looks so ominous Conrad are you getting freaked out?

Yeah, it's getting a little scary out here.

I mean even the kegger were thrown.

We're all getting scared, you know

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Yeah, just make sure the place is clean when I get back there tomorrow Kate from the 715 says Olympic gymnastics answering our question.

What is your favorite sporting event?

That's a good one too.

I don't know.

It's another sport.

I don't know how they do that, what they do.

I don't even know how they practice doing backflips on a four inch beam.

How is that possible?

But again, I watch it, I appreciate it, but it doesn't have the freneticness or something that like the... I said there's no wrong answer, but here I'm comparing everybody's texts.

to the tournament, which isn't right either.

So these are all phenomenal answers.

Paula Conrad's mom checks in and says, I used to think golf was really boring to watch, but since I've been learning how to play, I enjoy it.

The new TGL golf in the arena is also fun to watch.

What's that Conrad?

It's like a huge simulator, a massive screen.

And they actually have like sand hit off.

They have a massive like putting surface.

So yeah, it's really cool.

It's on Mondays and Tuesdays, I believe.

Pete Schwaba

Sounds a little bit like we golf which I'm a huge

you might have to check it out

Pete Schwaba

Check it out.

All right, let's move on here ladies and gentlemen.

It was my pleasure to welcome to the show One of our favorites here He does he joins us from time to time to talk movies and TV and he does great work as a film critic in Madison and for the city cast Madison newsletter Where he's the editor and he joins us now Rob Thomas.

Hey buddy.

Hey Pete.

How you doing?

Do it very well.

Thanks.

How are you?

I'm doing well.

It is a little ominous out.

But

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are you getting this in Madison, too?

Is it rain or snow?

It turned a little bit to snow.

It's a little icy out there, but it was just like it feels like it's been night all day.

Yeah, days.

Yeah.

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Yeah.

Kind of cozy.

It's like a good scary movie on or something and put a get a fire going or something.

There you

go.

There you go.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Hey, it's great to have you.

Do you have a do you have a favorite sporting event, Rob?

Sporting events.

Yeah.

Super Bowl, golf, baseball, World Series, NCAA, that kind of

thing.

I like the Winter Olympics,

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I got

to say, because they're sort of the kid brother of the regular Olympics.

You know, it's like, we're going to do everything the Summer Olympics do, but on ice.

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Yeah, right.

I like, I think I'd say Winter Olympics.

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OK, very well done.

And then I thought of you.

Our question last night was what was your favorite frozen pizza?

I don't know if you knew this or if I'm feeding you a story here for CityCast Madison, but actually it's already been done and up North New so I don't want to sound like I'm plagiarizing but okay Matt was constant is the frozen pizza capital of the world and Our question last night was what's your favorite frozen pizza?

Do you have one of those?

interesting

there was a

I think the Jerno has a croissant crust pizza.

That's a pretty good pizza.

We

can

find that.

We'll get that, that croissant crust.

But then honestly, you can't beat like one of those hubcap, Totino's, you know, trashy $2 frozen pizza sometimes.

There's nothing like it.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

I think when I was a kid, there was a red owl after we moved to Marinette and it was just down the street.

And I want to say, if I'm remembering this correctly, Totino's.

was the pizza you bought on a summer afternoon.

We'd pitch in 50 cents each and you could buy it.

There were like 99 cents and they tasted like cardboard with pepperoni on it and it was delicious.

Yeah, there's nothing like it.

It was so thin.

It was probably thinner than the cardboard sleeve it came in and yeah, nothing like it.

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Great choice.

Hey, so let's turn to the biz as we so often do.

What is going on?

You mentioned this when we were exchanging texts earlier.

What is going on?

Jeff Bezos owns the James Bond, or is it MGM Prime that bought the James Bond franchise?

So

yeah, Prime, Amazon Prime, which I guess Amazon also owns MGM now.

So they've owned MGM for the last couple of years, but they basically purchased creative control of James Bond, like the IP.

I think it was for like a billion dollars.

So it

was like a

supervillain level of cash.

And they bought it from Barbara Broccoli, who was the daughter of Cubby Broccoli, who kind of, you know, during the Sean County and Roger Moore years, he was kind of the producer.

He owned it.

She got it after he died.

And so it's kind of been in the family for generations.

And then Bezos basically, I think basically said,

name your price and she said a billion dollars

and so

and she still makes will make money off it she just can't make any creative decisions anymore about who will be james bond or you know will it be a series on amazon or will it be a movie or you know or both so uh a lot of yeah a lot of james i'm sort of mixed about i wrote a piece on my my uh

Not that Rob Thomas substack about like managing James Bond or Jeff Bezos was the was the blow felled.

And like, you know, maybe billionaires, you want to run the world, get a bad rap and you shouldn't be too hard on them.

007.

But I don't know.

I think there are interesting things you can do.

Like Amazon has, you were mentioning Bosch in the last segment

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and,

and Reacher and they did, I think a pretty good job with the Jack Ryan, the Tom Clancy.

Right.

So.

I think they could probably do a good, there's some interesting things they could do.

I still think they should do big theatrical movies the way James Bond is meant to be seen, but they could do some kind of fun stuff, you know, a money big series or something like that, you know.

Pete Schwaba

That's interesting.

We'll

see.

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Or even, I don't think we've ever seen the prequel, James Bond, how he became 007, maybe something along those lines.

Billion, billion bucks.

I mean, even though, even though Bezos probably had it on him.

He still wants to make that back, right?

I mean, I don't know.

Yeah,

chump change.

But, um, yeah, or, or have, uh, have a James Bond that's set in like the fifties, right?

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Or something

like that.

Or, you

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know,

I mean, there's lots of ideas,

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uh,

bring, bring Pierce Brosnan back as old bond, retired bond or something.

You know, right?

So,

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uh, I love it.

Um, yeah.

So that was, that was partly because of Jeff Bezos.

So that was why we had to sit through that.

that bond tribute at the Oscars.

Oh my

gosh.

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What the

heck?

I'm a huge James Bond fan.

And I was like, what are we doing here?

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Yeah,

10 minutes of this.

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Yeah.

Rob Thomas is here, folks.

We're going to do the news.

Then we'll come back and talk to Rob about some of the TV and movies he's been watching.

And we'll talk a little bit about the Wisconsin Film Festival too.

That's all coming up after Civic Media's news team keeps you informed.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.

Tomorrow night, joining us here at Nightlight will be comedian and TV host Mike Toomey.

He'll make the popcorn pick of the week at 6.35.

Then joining me in studio, magician Lou LaPore.

Conrad, he's going to do some magic tricks.

I'm nervous.

Are you?

What

do you

think he's going to make you disappear or

cut you in half

or something?

wear something pretty um so that's tomorrow night on nightlight uh very exciting we're having a nice chat here with our friend uh rob thomas you can follow him on twitter at rob what is your i always just type it in and i know it but how can people find you there

uh i kind of left twitter i mean i think i don't think i canceled my account i've been on there in a while

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i'm lucky you

yeah i'm on uh shoot i'm on a blue sky but i can't remember

my

I looked

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for you on Blue Sky today and I couldn't find you.

I was going to promote the show here

tonight.

Yeah, I got to get better about it.

I think I left Twitter and then I started going tiptoed back over to Blue Sky.

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So, yeah.

So far, Blue Sky is still okay.

But it still reminds you, even though it's not toxic, it still reminds you of all the crappy stories going on.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

That's why

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I'm

tiptoeing.

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Yeah, but you can check out Rob's work at CityCast Madison newsletter.

He's the editor does great a great job there and his sub-stack not that Rob Thomas where he can you can read his movie reviews and all kinds of fun stuff So let's talk a little bit about what what did you think Rob of Mickey 17?

You know, I've been going back and forth on that one because I love the director like parasite his last film which won the best picture

Like that's the movie I walked out of it just instantly.

I was like, that's the best picture of the year.

I mean, it would buy just a perfect movie.

And I thought South Korean filmmaker, he's made three or four English language movies in addition to Korean language movies like Parasite.

And they've all been kind of.

just kind of over the top like it's the idea of Mickey 17 is like a sci-fi satire where Robert Pattinson plays this low-level worker whose big job is basically to die like he's in this shipping outer space they send him down to check the atmosphere if it's poisonous he dies they just print another one out and you know and so good

Yeah, right.

It's like a 3D printer.

So that's why it's called Mickey 17, because this is the 17th version.

And so there's a lot of good stuff in there, but it's also very long and kind of gets these other subplots and characters that don't really pay off in any way.

So I was really mixed up.

I think I would need to see it again to give it a straight up thumbs up or thumbs down, but I had high hopes in it.

It didn't quite reach them for me.

Pete Schwaba

I would agree.

That's a great synopsis, actually, because I thought I went to see it with my wife.

She didn't like it at all.

I hung in there with it and I like the second hour more than the first.

But Robert Pattinson, oh, my God, the way he chose to play that character or was directed to play that character with a voice, really hard to watch.

And I agree with you that it was kind of long.

I watched another of his films called The One with the River, The Host.

The great movie.

But Rob, I would say that movie could have been 20 minutes shorter.

OK, sure.

They go away from the monster for so long.

And it's such a cool monster.

And, you know, this family is so fun to watch.

But yeah, I would say.

And I don't remember thinking that in Parasite.

So Parasite must not have had those issues, or at least they didn't bother me as

much.

But yeah, I felt Parasite, which is perfect.

There's another one he did on Netflix.

I think it's pronounced okja, okja.

And making 17 remind me a lot of it.

It has Jake Gyllenhaal, I think Tilda Swinton plays two roles and then if I'm not mistaken, same kind of thing where it's like big over the top science fiction satire, hits some good points, has some good jokes, interesting visuals, but then also takes a long time to kind of get where it's going.

Yeah.

You know, so.

A little disappointing,

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yeah.

I am anxious to see, I have not seen this yet, you've seen it, Novocaine, tell us about Novocaine, kind of a cool premise.

I thought that was super fun, yeah.

It's an action comedy, it reminded me a lot of this movie, Jason Statham did 20 years ago called Crank, where

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he played this

guy, I don't remember the premise, but it was like, he had to keep his heart rated.

above a certain level or died or something like that or and so um and so it's a action movie but it's almost almost like a live action cartoon and in Nova Kane Jack Quaid is this great actor he was in uh that movie companion a couple months ago um he's the son of Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan but he's great on his own plays this guy who cannot feel pain he has this genetic condition where

He puts his hand in hot water, he bites his tongue, he can't feel pain.

Instead of being like a superhero, he's this very cautious guy because he could really hurt himself because he doesn't have pain receptors.

Anyway, he gets drawn into this thing where his new girlfriend gets kidnapped by bank robbers and it becomes this like super violent, but very funny.

action movie because he you know the bad guys are hitting him and you know doing all these things and he just doesn't feel a thing like and it's just really Very clever with the premise and and he's just so funny is this kind of normal guy who's just sort of his only superpowers He could just take a lot of punishment because he doesn't really feel it

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That reminds me of Homer Simpson when he boxed Mike Tyson and his only redeeming quality was you could beat the hell out of him right

But he couldn't hurt you.

But Jack Quaid, he was in the boys too.

I

know.

And he was very likable and a nepo baby.

But he's a good everyman, I think.

I am excited to see the film.

No, we can't.

What else was I going to ask you?

Oh, last breath.

This one kind of confused me because it's been out for like a couple of weeks now, but they didn't release it to critics.

So kind of late.

And I thought that was a bad sign.

But everyone I talked to loves it.

Yeah, I saw it.

I think I've told you I'm a fan of the the mystery movies that Marcus and AMC do on Monday night.

Sometimes the mystery movie I saw.

I thought it was great.

Really based on a true story and the director directed a documentary version of the same story and is now done a fictionalized version with Woody Harrelson.

And so it's very to me, it's very grounded in.

reality and telling the story of this diver, this group of divers who work on the undersea like oil lines that run at the bottom of the ocean in the North Sea.

And there's this accident, there's a storm, there's malfunction, and one diver gets basically stuck down there for minutes without oxygen.

It's about him trying to survive.

It's about the people up on the ship trying to get to him.

It's about the other divers are sort of on the diving bell trying to figure out.

I thought it was really suspenseful and well done, well acted and really made you scared of being underwater.

I would love to see the making of because I'm sure they shot a lot of this underwater and it really is pretty terrifying.

I didn't really think about it that much, but it's like.

You got a few minutes of oxygen and that's it buddy.

I mean, there's

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no

Yeah, so

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I'm scared to death of of underwater anyway I mean it creeps me out to begin with what I did like about this film rob and I hate to say this because so many movies I've seen this year have been so Long right the producers directors whomever are so happy with what they do.

They don't want to cut anything and this Film if I recall is only like an hour and a half long.

Yeah

Yeah, it's very tight.

That's also why I want to see BlackBag.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, let's talk about that.

What have you heard?

It's getting good reviews.

It's Steven Soderbergh, a spy thriller.

It sounds great.

Fantastic reviews, fantastic cast.

The director Steven Soderbergh, like you say, the writer is David Kep, great screenwriter, Jurassic Park, UW graduate who's actually coming to the Wisconsin Film Festival in a couple of weeks with another

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film.

But it's a spy thriller with

Cape Land Chat, Michael Fassbender, Pierce Brosnan.

And it looks fantastic.

And again, it's like 90 minutes.

And it's, you know, it's like, there's no fat on that thing, it looks like.

I'm really excited to see it.

It's

Pete Schwaba

the kind of,

go ahead.

I'm sorry.

Pete Schwaba

No, no, I'm sorry.

You can please continue.

Oh,

I was kidding.

Like, we're always like, I wish they would make movies for grownups.

And this is the kind of

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movie

stuff.

If you like the kind of movie, you should go out and see it while it's still in theaters.

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

Have you seen anything TV wise, Rob?

Is there anything you could recommend to binge watch?

Well, my wife and I are trying Severance.

She's very against it.

It's one of those shows I've really wanted to watch, but she's been sort of iffy on it.

So we were a couple of episodes in.

It's fantastic, which everybody

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knows.

I'm sure because they're already finished the second season, but that's really good.

A more under the radar show that I watched the first episode of is called, I think it's called A Thousand Blows.

It's on Hulu.

It's by the guy who did Peaky Blinders.

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And

it's also set in Victorian times.

And it's about these two immigrants from Jamaica who get into the underground boxing scene in London in Victorian times.

And they meet up with this...

This this female thief she leaves this gang of lady thieves and I don't know who that actress is.

She's phenomenal Like she's so good.

I got to find who she is, but I got hooked from the first episode I think it's only like a six episode mini series or something

Pete Schwaba

like

this Yeah, so it's another one where you're the time commitment is not You know punishing so I'm sorry to follow that one up

Pete Schwaba

I've heard so much great stuff about Severance, but then I read what it's about and I'm like, is this up my alley?

But it's gotten to the point where so many people love it.

I have to check it out.

In Adolescent 2, everybody's raving about that, the new Netflix show, and it involves kids, and I don't know, but I'm gonna have to break down and watch both.

Is every episode is like a single shot or something like that?

Is that what I read about Adolescent?

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

is that right?

Yeah, they

shoot everything in one take, which sounds...

Oh, that's fascinating.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Okay.

Rob Thomas is my guest.

We're talking TV and movies.

He is the CityCast Madison newsletter editor and does great work.

Follow him at NotThatRobThomasSubstack and read all of his reviews.

They're very informative and always fun to read.

What do you know about this DeNiro movie, Rob?

It's not reviewing well.

The Alto Knights, he plays both Frank Costello and I think Vito Genovese plays two roles.

It's not reviewing well, though.

Well, I you know, I'm curious just because it's so weird like right you can't fight, you know Herbie K tells busy.

You can't hire him for you know, I mean like, right?

Because you know, Robert DeNiro could spread around a little bit and give that to somebody else But it's directed by Barry Levinson who is a great director who hasn't made a movie in ages.

I don't

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yeah

So I'm curious if he still has

kind of the chops like he you know he made what good morning Vietnam and bugsy at like in the 80s and 90s he was a very hot director and then kind of fell off so.

Pete Schwaba

He gave Adrian Brody a role and what was it called Baltimore Heights or something like that.

Yes Liberty Heights Liberty Heights that was the first thing I'd seen Adrian Brody and I thought he was great and I yeah I've always been a Barry Levinson fan you

know.

Yeah so I'll give it a shot just for him

Pete Schwaba

I think.

Yeah same let's.

Let's talk about the Wisconsin Film Festival a little bit, Rob.

You did a great article for CityCast Madison talking about some of the films that were anticipating.

What do you think looks like something that would intrigue you as a critic or just a movie fan?

I mean, there's a lot.

There's like 170 films already raised.

There's some screenings that have sold out right away.

There are others that are more sleepers.

There was one documentary about cheese called Shelf Life.

It's sort of like about almost like the philosophical love of cheese that looks really, really good.

There's

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a

crazy looking Nicholas Cage movie called The Surfer, which looks really fun.

There's a lot of really interesting movies.

Pete Schwaba

Boy, you know, Nicholas Cage, this guy has been like in every movie.

Like that's one of his, is that new?

I've never even heard of that.

It's new.

Yeah.

Okay.

He plays this guy, it's like a thriller.

He plays this guy who comes back to the beach town where he grew up.

I think it's in Australia.

He's now a tycoon.

He's bought a house trying to bring his son and he's bullied by the local surf dudes.

So it's sort of like a psychological thriller.

It looks like one of his, you know, trademark kind of wild.

performances, I think.

Really interesting.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

That's cool.

All right, we're talking with Rob Thomas.

We're going to take a very short break and he will help us or spend a couple more minutes with us, Rob.

I might ask you about another big event happening at the Wisconsin Film Festival that I noticed was absent from CityCast Madison.

So I'll give Rob a hard time about that when we come back after this very short break.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back.

Pete Schwaba

Talking with our pal Rob Thomas who joins us from Madison tonight on this crummy evening and we're getting it statewide.

It sounds like it's just about everywhere.

So I hope you're staying safe out there.

Rob is with us for a couple more minutes here.

Rob, we were talking about the Wisconsin Film Festival, which starts April 3rd.

Do you know anything about this film A Road at Night?

I have the director, John Roach, coming on the show next week to discuss it.

And it sounds really like it hits very close to home here for Wisconsinites.

Yeah, super powerful documentary and Badger's basketball fans may know the story of Howard Moore.

who was a basketball star at the Badgers, and then became an assistant coach.

And then his family was involved in this awful car accident a few years ago.

And it follows his story, and I don't want to give too much away.

But I saw the trailer for it at the Film Festival.

really powerful.

Of course, John Roach is a staple in Madison, writes for writer, co-wrote the straight story, the David Lynch film.

So I'm really interested to see the documentary sounds like it's going to be really powerful.

Pete Schwaba

He's on the Wisconsin Film Festival episode of Directors Cut on PBS that will be out March 31st.

And I had a chance to talk to him before I interviewed him on TV.

I didn't know this and I don't know that you know this or that you would know this.

But when he was a TV producer in Chicago and I was in college, he created a show called the Sports Writers on TV.

Oh, I know that

show.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was like such a, I felt like it was ahead of its time.

I just, I was glued to it.

Like these old guys smoking cigars talking about sports.

It was like pre-sports radio, you know?

Yeah, and they were like like they look like they're a central casting.

Yeah, it's writers.

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

that's

fantastic I had no idea because I lived in Chicago in the 90s and would be transfixed by those guys as well Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

yeah, he's an interesting guy, so I'm excited to talk to him And then the other one I wanted to ask you about was milk punch that sounds interesting.

It's a 25th anniversary screening

Yeah

And that's a movie.

It was at the 2000 Wisconsin Film Festival.

And I've got like a VHS screener of it somewhere.

Oh, wow.

But it was shot in and around Madison, this kind of super low budget indie comedy.

And so the director, Eric Unison, and a lot of the crew and cast are coming back for this anniversary screening.

I'm excited because, honestly,

aside from the film being entertaining, like you just will get a chance to see Madison.

It doesn't exist anymore.

It's like, okay, it's Corral and all these places that have closed or burned down or whatever.

So it's gonna be a real time warp.

Pete Schwaba

Nice.

All right, here's the one other event.

I hope you can make it, Rob.

My sometime writing partner, Greg Leanna, is screening his original Meet the Parents, which went on to become...

You know, the big, I think one of the highest grossing live action franchises anyway with Ben Stiller and Robert De Niro meet the parents.

But Greg shot an indie film in Chicago like in 1989 before I even knew him.

It's hilarious, much darker than the studio version.

He's going to show that at the Barrymore at one o'clock on Saturday, April 4th.

And I'm going to host the Q&A and introduce the film.

So yeah, I've talked to Greg about it a few times on the air here and on director's cut.

So that will be a fun.

It's a fun event for people looking for something to do Saturday afternoon as a film festival.

That's great.

And yeah, those Barrymore screen, that's a big theater.

So

Pete Schwaba

that's what

I, it's going to be super fun to see with the big crowd.

I don't think for most of those, you have to worry about them selling out.

So, you know, so if you don't get tickets advanced, you probably just walk up and get a ticket.

And they have.

the best popcorn in town at the Barrymore, I will say too.

Pete Schwaba

Oh really?

You know what happened?

There's so many times I've never had their popcorn

on.

It's the old school popcorn and you got to get it.

Pete Schwaba

Do you get like a pass?

Do you review movies that are there?

Do you just kind of go as a

fan?

passes for a few films and, you know, back in the day, I could hit like four movies a day and write about

Pete Schwaba

them all.

Isn't that great?

It's fun.

You know, you miss your family.

So I'm going to take it more casually this year, but I think I'll write something, you know, almost every day for my substack and stuff that I see.

Yeah.

They're just

Pete Schwaba

so much good

stuff.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Fantastic.

Well, we'll be looking for that.

Keep up the great work.

Always fun to talk to you, buddy.

And if I don't talk to you before, I'll see you with the festival.

Yeah, it'll be great to run into you, Pete.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Likewise.

All right.

Thanks, Rob.

Have a great night.

All right.

Stay warm and stay dry, people.

That was Rob Thomas.

I'd like to thank him for being on the show as well as my friend Scott Klase.

Always fun to talk to Scott and find out about some of the roles that he's played over the years.

And thank you for all your texts.

We had a, that was a good question, Conrad.

What did you think?

Yeah, it was

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great.

Are you giving me the thumbs up?

Yeah, yeah, we'll say

Pete Schwaba

that.

I didn't miss any text, did I?

I don't believe so.

Okay, good.

So what are you going to do now?

It's freezing outside.

The roads are bad.

Did you have trouble getting there tonight?

No, actually, I got here around 2.30, so it wasn't terrible when I got here.

Pete Schwaba

I want to tell you something too.

When we're both parked in the garage, you've got to let me know because last night I said, all right, I'll see you tomorrow.

And I went under that chain, and as I'm walking in my car, I heard the chain go up and crash down again, and I thought I was about to be jumped.

So I'm looking over my shoulders, and then I see that it's you.

I'm like, why didn't he just say something?

We could have formed a safer and numbers group as we walked to the garage downtown Green Bay.

I don't have to do that tonight.

My car is right outside.

I should

Pete Schwaba

have

parked in the garage, though, because my car is full of snow now.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that'll be

fun.

Pete Schwaba

Tomorrow night, ladies and gentlemen, I hope you can join us.

We'll have Mike Toomey here at 635.

He's going to make the popcorn pick of the week.

He is a WGN morning show host and a great comedian.

And then local magician Lula Pore joins the show in studio.

And he's going to talk about Wisconsin native Harry Houdini.

And we hope you can join us tomorrow night too and be part of the show like you always are.

It makes it so much more fun.

On behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night,

Wisconsin.

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