Aliens & St. Patty’s Day (Hour 1)

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Aliens & St. Patty’s Day (Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Mar 17, 2025

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

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And now a guy who considers a silver medal, a participation award, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome, welcome.

It's time for nightlight folks.

We made it through the weekend and now the fun truly begins as we can talk about some of the more fun things in life that take you away from work, politics, sitting in traffic, arguing with family, whatever it may be.

Let's kick back and chill out tonight and enjoy Monday in all its glory.

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Great to have you with me tonight.

As I mentioned, that was the voice of Conrad Krieger.

He is sitting in for himself tonight, running the board throughout the show.

How are you doing tonight, Kay?

I'm doing fantastic.

How about you?

Doing well.

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Did you have a good

weekend?

I had a fun weekend, yeah.

Mainly, mainly watching basketball.

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Yeah.

Had a couple drinks here and there.

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Couple drinks?

Just two?

It's not too bad over here.

You know, what did you think of the Badgers?

Like, I thought...

They kind of fell apart, but was that fatigue?

Or just, I don't know.

It

felt like a long tournament, you know, and I think

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they

got to the point where they were at, and it didn't seem like either team wanted to win.

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Boy, Michigan, the whole game.

I thought the Badgers had it, you know.

Yeah, I

did too.

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It sure looked like it.

It fell

apart.

Our best score was one for 15, I believe, or something around like that, so

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that doesn't help.

What did he end up with, like, eight?

Maybe 10 mostly free throws, though, or

he had one field goal and all free throws.

That's bad.

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I mean, they could have been gas.

They played more games, I think, than Michigan.

But that's excuses.

I mean, I don't I don't look at their loss really as an impediment for the tournament.

Like, I feel like they're still they still have pretty good momentum.

They have a really good seed.

They.

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Yeah, I'm happy.

I'm happy they got the three.

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What is it?

What did Michigan end up getting?

They also got a three seed.

Ooh, yeah, they got a three seed, I believe as well.

But yeah.

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See, I knew that wasn't like, I had some friends that said, Hey, we're heading to Indianapolis.

My son was maybe going to go like, are you in?

Not for the big 10 championship.

I can't sit in a car for seven hours or pay 500 bucks for airfare.

Like, and I would have been in flames if I had done that and they lost.

But like, I would do that for the actual tournament, but not the big 10 tournament.

So Michigan actually is a five seed.

So they got a lower seed than the bad or a higher seed than the Badgers.

Yeah, which tells you what people think about how Wisconsin did in the big 10 tournament.

I mean, it was an impressive run.

It was it was it was a really fun run to watch.

And I hope we get to watch some more fun coming up on Thursday, I believe.

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Yeah, I have not looked at their their bracket yet, though.

Who are their big teams?

Well, they have to get through

Duke.

Come on.

Every

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year so doing

Duke every year.

Yeah, that's just that's the tough one and then I mean it's Arizona's in there St.

Mary's Alabama Yeah, they got a tough

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they get a tough side, you know the worst thing about Duke about them being seated in the same Region is Duke is that we're gonna have to see those replays of 2015 and just That like still hurts

I think

we can make a good run, though.

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I think so, too.

They seem like they're in a weird place, like, where they're dangerous, certainly not favored, but they could do some damage and who knows what could happen, you know?

I like their odds.

So that's that.

So that's what we did.

I watched a film called Elevation that I'll talk about, and I know I'm going to ask you about your film, Electric State, but first, I have to say, you know, I've talked about on this show, I don't understand, like, I have a poker app.

Most people have avatars, you know, it's like Twitter nobody wants their real picture on there and I was playing at a table with a guy I'm amazed at people real people that have a picture sending a rose at the table an emoji rose to an avatar of an AI basically animated woman picture Like they're hitting on an avatar so

I said at the table the guy sends this woman, I guess, who knows what she or it or they were could have been a bot.

I don't know.

But my comment was, hey, I was going to flirt with that avatar.

And the guy erupted.

He starts calling me all these inappropriate politically incorrect names.

I was just making a joke.

I even put an LOL.

Like talk about having no sense of humor.

Like this guy was banking on getting somewhere with this avatar.

And I ruined his day.

I didn't mean to.

I thought, you know, people would laugh, but oh my gosh.

She had no personality to the avatar.

Nothing.

Yeah, that's that's the thing with those avatars.

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Like what?

What do you think you're going to be registered at Bed Bath and Beyond in a month?

Like what are you doing?

I just it's so bizarre to me.

But even when you try to make light of it or be funny, nothing called me terrible names.

And then I did my usual, you know, you're not even smart enough to offend me, pal.

Like, all right, I gotta stop.

I'm arguing with, who knows?

It could have been Putin playing poker at the table, for all I know.

I don't wanna mix it up with those guys.

All right, so Badgers are a three seed.

I got my poker story out of the way.

I did watch a film called...

You know what?

Let's do this.

Let's cover this story first, because this is a big deal.

Gene Hackman, over the weekend, or late last week, it was determined that his wife, Betsy Arakawa, died of the, I think it was called the hentavirus, a rare thing that you can get from like, you know, rodents, I guess.

And she died first.

Gene Hackman died later, because he couldn't take care of himself, and he had Alzheimer's.

So Hackman, over the course, was one of my favorite actors of all time, over the course of his life,

He accrued like 80 million bucks to his estate, whatever, that they have to divvy up now.

He left it to his wife.

His wife Betsy left all her money to charity.

But the fact that they died within the same period means Hackman has no one to leave his money to.

Where I'm going with this is his three children, all middle-aged now, 60s and 50s, because he was 95, were left out of his will.

They don't even get a sniff of his estate.

However, since she is deceased, there was no one listed in the will as a secondary beneficiary.

So the kids are ultimately going to get the money it sounds like.

Now, it's weird because I've read a lot of articles about Gene Hackman over the last week, or a couple weeks, I guess, since he passed away.

Again, loved him as an actor, but he admitted in some of the articles he was not a very good father.

He was gone for months and months at a time.

and didn't have the relationship with his kids that he thought was appropriate.

He admits he was kind of an absentee father.

Wouldn't that make you more inclined to leave them to buy their love with some money at the end of your life?

Like, you got 80 million bucks.

Let's say you take 20 million and leave it to the kids.

10.

Give them each a mill.

I don't know.

I think that was strange and I have to say it knocked them down a couple pegs.

in my opinion.

And that leads us to our question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

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Questions.

Does Gene Hackman not leaving any of his 80

Million dollars to his kids change your opinion of the legendary actor now.

I get it.

We don't know the whole story I'm just saying on paper.

It doesn't look good Especially when he admits he wasn't really around for his kids.

They weren't in touch Maybe if they were His life could have been saved who knows But I have to admit and I am whatever I don't know

You know, there's many sides to every story, at least two or five in this case with his kids, so I don't know what the issue is between them.

But I have to say, it kind of changed my opinion.

Not exacting, certainly.

Maybe he was still a good guy.

But does Gene Hackman not leaving any of his 80 million bucks to his kids change your opinion of the legendary actor?

That is tonight's question.

Let us know at 855-752-4842, 855-755-CIVIC.

And we will read your text on the radio.

Love to hear from you guys.

Always more fun when you guys participate.

You can also text us on the stream or on the app.

It's all good.

Just get ahold of us.

It'd be great to hear what you guys think.

Am I overthinking this?

Am I being too hard on them?

I don't know.

We have a really good show tonight.

Todd Michaels is here.

We're gonna talk about a new documentary.

about aliens.

And it's going to be fun.

It's called, uh, where is it?

I have it written down.

I can't remember.

Oh, the age of disclosure.

And it's a documentary that claims that aliens are among us.

And they talk to 34 people, the director Dan Farah talked to 34 people who claim aliens have been found.

They are among us.

We'll talk to Todd about that Todd hosts a host Todd produces minow in the mayor here at WGBW and WIS such a phenomenal producer and He is also a paranormal Investigator in his free time, so I'm anxious that Todd's like the first person I thought about when I saw this article and I have so many questions I Don't expect Todd to be able to answer them all but we'll have a discussion you guys can weigh in on that certainly phone lines are always open eight five five seven five two four eight

And then, this is exciting.

In the second hour at 7.35, from Flix Brewhouse, Dave Hanson will join the show.

He is the brewmaster at Flix, and he reached out to me about a month ago and said, hey, we'd like to do this nightlight-inspired beer.

What do you think?

I played hard to get.

He kept texting.

I couldn't get rid of him.

I said, sure, that's not how it happened.

I said immediately, yes, Dave, I'm here.

How can I help?

What can we do?

Love the idea of a nightlight inspired beer.

So Dave is working on that right now.

I was in Madison last week, poured in the hops.

We took some pictures.

I think they're on our social media here at Civic Media or WGBW.

But Dave's a great guy.

He's going to talk to us about his job as a brewmaster.

We'll talk a little bit about the nightlight beer.

That will be a fun conversation, too.

Conrad, do you have beer questions?

You're a beer guy.

I mean, what goes into making it?

Dave can answer all those questions.

Of course.

Yeah, that'll be, that's gonna be a lot of fun.

Write them out, buddy.

I'm sure he'll want to answer your questions.

Pete Schwaba

And mine as well.

So that's your show.

Great to have you here, folks.

It's Monday.

We made it.

We made it through the weekend.

We're back on the air and we can talk about really fun stuff, and we will do that.

for the next just under a couple hours here.

So thanks for being with me.

This is Peach Wabba in Night Light.

When we come back, happy St.

Patrick's Day, by the way.

We'll celebrate St.

Patrick's Day with a clip from The Simpsons, as only The Simpsons can do.

That's coming up next on Night Light with Peach Wabba on the Civic Media

radio network.

Pete Schwaba

So much to be happy about tonight, folks.

It is St.

Patrick's Day.

I grew up celebrating St.

Patrick's Day, even sometimes having corned beef and cabbage.

I'm primarily Irish, and I forgot to mention St.

Patrick's Day till right before the break.

You know what happens is I put it on the sheet, and then I kept adding stuff, and it got bumped down and down.

And honestly, St.

Patrick's Day is fun, but I care less about ethnicity as I get older.

I don't care what someone's ethnic background is.

That doesn't mean...

We shouldn't celebrate them, but let's celebrate all of them.

I remember two friends of mine in college almost getting, coming to blows over.

My friend who was Irish was bragging about St.

Patrick's Day, and my friend who was Italian didn't like that.

And my friend that was Irish kept saying, well, you're just jealous you don't have a day.

And he said, yeah, we do.

We have St.

Joseph's Day, which none of us had even heard of.

So we laughed at him, and they almost came to blows.

And I thought, this is kind of silly.

Like what what's your bet?

Are you German?

I'm German and Irish though and Irish.

Yeah,

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okay.

Do

you

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celebrate any kind of German?

I got

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the potato salad or something at some point and

I mean, yeah, there's definitely whenever I go visit some like my grandma.

There's there's German stuff there.

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I can tell you're really tied into

Well, happy St.

Patrick's Day everybody.

We have a little, this is how I like to celebrate St.

Patrick's Day.

Every year, this is one of my favorite Simpsons sort of sequences regarding this holiday and we'll play this for you now.

This is Bart and there's a lot of fighting going on because it's St.

Patrick's Day and they're making fun of alcohol and fighting and this is the Simpsons.

It's been St.

Patrick's Day for hours and I'm still not drunk yet.

Oh, it's never gonna be nine o'clock.

Oh, Mo!

Thank God you're here.

Would you like to come in and drink, please?

We kicked down the back door, but then it was a metal door.

Yeah, all right.

Listen up.

This is the busiest drinking day of the year.

We're the designated drivers.

Beat it.

I got no room for cheapskates.

Top of the morning to you on this great, drizzly afternoon Kent O. Brockman, live on Main Street, where today everyone is a little bit Irish, except of course for the gays and the Italians.

Parades just bring out so many emotions in me.

Joy?

Excitement?

Looking?

Mom, can I go buy one of those long plastic horns?

Oh, but we've bought those before and you always just throw them out the car window on the right home.

I get bored with them.

But that won't happen this time.

Big, big coming through!

Hey, Notre Dame, move it or lose it!

Ruga!

Will the owner of the Great Big Butt please move it out of my face?

Hey, where's that weather check?

This is some wicked patty,

eh?

Hey, have you seen Sally?

Get away from there.

Hey, I need a pencil.

Ladies and gentlemen, what you're seeing is a total disregard for the things St.

Patrick's Day stands for.

All this drinking, violence, destruction of property, are these the things we think of when we think of the Irish?

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And the explosion you heard was a bunch of Irish guys throwing some type of bomb at a fish and chips place, like that was all happening in Springfield.

Funny stuff, love it.

Happy St.

Patrick's Day to all of you celebrating today, be careful out there, be safe, and party responsibly.

Our question of the night, folks, I like this question because I'm going on a pure emotion, but after I read this article about Gene Hackman,

It just got me thinking.

And one of my all-time favorite actors left his kids out of his will.

Turns out they will get the money because his wife died within like a week of him and there was no secondary beneficiary on the will.

So our question of the night is, does Gene Hackman not leaving any of his $80 million fortune to his kids change your opinion of the legendary actor?

It did for me.

Without knowing any of the facts, just on paper, my initial reaction was, I kind of thought, especially after he admitted to being kind of a deadbeat dad, not deadbeat dad, that's the wrong term, absentee father, let's say, and admitted that he was gone for months at a time, I kind of was like, I don't know.

I don't know why you wouldn't leave that to your kids, but maybe something else has worked out.

Again, I have no info on this, but I'm going off my gut and it did knock him down a little bit, in my opinion.

Conrad, what do you think?

I mean, I haven't really seen a bunch of his stuff, so I don't know if I'm the right guy to form an opinion on this because I don't know too much about him and his life.

You're the perfect guy to chime in.

You don't have to see his movies.

I don't know too much about him.

I never really thought of one of my favorite actors either, so.

But I mean, I guess it's like we don't know what went on behind the scenes either, so maybe he did that for a reason, you know?

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Yeah, maybe.

Kind of a big oversight.

I would imagine 80

million big

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ones Let's go to the text line Paula from the 920 Congress mom says I have not changed my opinion of Gene Hackman because we do not know the dynamics of the family You're right Paula We do know a little bit though because he has not talked to his kids and they were not around so there are definitely I would assume some pretty hurt feelings there One way or the other either the kids towards Gene Gene towards the kids.

Who knows?

Steve in Milwaukee says, that surprises me.

I think it does knock Hackman down a couple notches.

He was a great actor, but apparently not a family man.

That's kind of my impression as well, Steve.

Thank you for the text.

Monica from Mount Horab says, I don't have enough info.

I mean, maybe he already gave them millions, bought them houses, had trusts in their names, et cetera.

That's what I was thinking too.

Like maybe at some point they did get a lot of money from him or some sort of assistance.

I don't know.

Maybe his kids are independently wealthy.

I'm not trying to be a bad guy here.

I'm just saying a paper kind of a bad look AJ from the 608 says hey Pete and Conrad I personally believe that it's none of our business what people decide to leave to their kids etc But I assume his children will be okay That is a mighty big assumption AJ But yeah, I can live with that Steve from Milwaukee says and I just watched the runaway jury last night kind of relevant to today

God, I saw that, Steve, and I don't even remember.

I have to give that a rewatch.

I know it's a John Grissom, and I'm sure Hackman was great in it, but great text.

Keep coming, folks.

Great to have you with me when we come back.

We're talking aliens with paranormal investigator Todd Michaels.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Too late to turn back now I

believe, I believe, I believe I'm falling in love I found myself owning her at least 10

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Steve from the 920 says, doesn't change my opinion of him, Gene Hackman, at this point not knowing the rest of the story.

Parentheses, Paul Harvey.

At this point, maybe Mr. Hackman had already given his kids millions and maybe was thinking that his very young wife needed the 80 million.

to live off.

Yeah, he's a giver, Steve, for sure.

I think she could muscle through on 80 million.

Keep those texts coming.

Is your opinion gone down a little bit about Gene Hackman knowing he didn't leave any of his $80 million fortune to his kids?

They will ultimately get it anyway because his wife died within a week of him.

Kind of a loophole there.

But I gotta say, it affected my opinion of him a little bit, not as an actor, certainly.

But we will read your texts.

Keep sending them, please.

Right now, I'm very excited.

My next guest is always so much fun to talk to.

He produces Mino and the Mayor here at WGBW every morning and at WISS.

And he is also a paranormal investigator who does really fascinating work and is really fun to talk to about said work.

Mino and the Mayor or paranormal investigating.

Would you agree, Conrad?

Oh, yeah.

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You know this guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's bring him on.

Let's not waste any more time.

This is getting ridiculous.

Todd Michaels joins us now.

Todd, how are you?

I'm well.

Can I can I talk about Gene Hackman?

I was going

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to ask you anyway.

So please and then we have to discuss your look because I love it.

You know,

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it's

scary as hell.

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Not at all.

I just think, listen, I think there's a lot of kids that grow up in the Hollywood thing and

This is not the first time that I've heard people with money, whether it's sports people or Hollywood people that say their kids feel like they're entitled to all this money.

And it's like, go out and get a job.

And I feel as though he doesn't owe them anything.

I really don't think so.

And I think he probably was a crabby old man, but let's put it this way.

His kids, he was dead for how long?

His wife was dead for how long?

And the kids never, it's not far to see him.

I mean,

you know, I had a dad with dementia.

My mom was sick and still as a family, we kind of kept in touch with them up until the end.

So what is, you know, I don't know, do they really need the money?

Get out of here.

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What's going on with the Hackman's?

Yeah, I.

Again, not knowing anything.

I just admit that on paper when I read this, I was kind of like, because he had admitted in other articles that he was an absentee father, he was not there.

And I think some people try to make up for that monetarily.

But again, like some of the textures have been saying, maybe he gave them money earlier on, or maybe he's made sure they're, I don't know, maybe they're all independently wealthy, but it was just surprising to read that, you know.

Yeah, I didn't I didn't necessarily know that he was an absentee father or anything like that But it wouldn't be the first one wouldn't be the last one.

So I just think he was a great actor.

That's all I really care about

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I just hope my parents are listening to this segment

because You're expecting some cash

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wink wink nod nod, you know All right, so Todd we've got to get to that we've got to address the elephant in the room, which is your new look

which is so great and so cool that you did this.

You did a campaign for St.

Baldrick's to help children fighting cancer and you cut all your fate, your awesome beard and you have good hair and you just lost it all.

You look good, man.

Well, first of all, I don't think so.

It was very frightening when I first saw it because I have not been without a beard probably in 20 years, maybe 25 years.

So it was kind of hard to look at.

Um, I've decided that it's all got to come back.

Um, but if I had to choose, if somebody said, okay, you have to either keep your head bald or you have to keep your face, uh, shaven, I would keep the bald head and bring the beard back totally.

Cause basically from the nose down.

I'm hideous, and if you just look in my eyes, they're okay.

You know what I'm saying?

Pete Schwaba

Boy, someone's done their fair share of naval gazing over the years.

No, listen, I admit, when I saw you on Facebook yesterday, I

went

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yeesh.

No, I didn't do that.

Seriously.

No, but I didn't know at first.

I didn't know it was you.

And I'm like, oh my god, that's Todd.

Like I was not.

I was not expecting you to be handsome.

I thought maybe why you had the beard and your look was because you were hiding something.

But, you know, you're a good looking guy.

Conrad, help me out here.

He's your

boss, you can say.

That's all Conrad had to do is laugh.

That's fine.

You just, you just keep that laughter.

Cause you know what's really funny on my desktop right now is Conrad's review that

I'm working on.

You look very good.

I think a

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show of solidarity and shaving your head might be in order here Conrad.

I, uh, I'll just tell you Todd, I used to, every summer I used to shave my head like I would go quarter inch, not quite completely bald.

And then I have another gig on TV and they were like, please, please stop doing that.

They're like, we can't force you.

And my kids were like, dad, you look like a psychopath.

So

I

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stopped.

The craziest thing was my dog.

I didn't know who I was right away.

Like he kind of kind of cowered away a little bit, but I did raise money and it's really for a good cause and I can't wait to let all comes back.

Pete Schwaba

So tell us about that.

If people can still donate, can where do they go and how do they get more involved in St.

Paul Dricks?

I think you can go to SaintBaldricks.org.

That'll give you all the details on it.

You can still donate to my campaign.

I will just say that John Minow and Jim Schmidt kind of talked me into this.

They, on the air, they did the whole, well, if Todd raises $500, he'll shave everything, right?

I ended up raising about 1300, so I'm really happy with that.

And that's, that's from listeners from the show.

That's from friends on Facebook, but you can find me on Facebook, Todd Michaels, Deering, and you can still donate to my cause if you'd like to.

Pete Schwaba

It's great.

And I know you did, Pete.

So thank you very much.

You're welcome.

I'm

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Pete, one of my offshore accounts.

It was the whole eight bucks

I sent to your way.

Just

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one of them.

No, it was my pleasure.

I think if someone's willing to do that, you know, I think it's great.

So good for you.

And then I hope it helps, you know, if enough people do it, it's certainly good.

Although I've heard cancer research might be stopped.

So I don't know, but I hope that's not true.

Okay, so have you celebrated St.

Pat's Day today, Todd?

What did you do?

No, I just, I literally have been working since this morning.

So I didn't have a time.

And green beer always affects my guts a little bit.

So I try to avoid that anyway.

So I really didn't do anything.

I don't know.

I mean, don't you think it does something to your guts?

Pete Schwaba

I don't, well, it must.

I've never, I don't think I've ever had, I've never been a beer drinker really.

So I don't, yeah, I don't know, but you know, there's no pressure or anything.

But happy St.

Patrick's Day.

And to

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you.

And thank you,

Conrad.

So that's Simpson's clip we played before.

Yeah.

You remember when Moe's, he has the green dye in his hand and it has poisons written on it.

It says green dye for beer and two poison symbols.

Pete Schwaba

Moe is the best.

And that, that when Krusty says open your yaps, boyos, he's just spraying beer into the crowd.

It's gorgeous.

All right.

So Todd, let's get down.

You know, I,

I always read stuff and I think of you immediately if it's along these these lines.

And when I saw this age of disclosure documentary that premiered itself by Southwest about 10 days ago, I immediately thought of you.

And I don't think you and I have ever covered aliens, at least not in any kind of, you know, we might have touched on it.

But where do you stand before we get into the documentary?

Where do you stand on the existence of aliens?

And have you ever investigated anything along those

lines?

where I stand out it is I'm a firm believer that there's so many things that we just don't know about we just can't comprehend as human beings and it would not surprise me to find out that there are such things as aliens.

I will say that I've never gone out to investigate something that was purportedly alien related however I do think that there is a good chance that what we have

come to know as paranormal investigating of ghosts and spirits and energies could very well have a tie to aliens.

Even things like a Sasquatch and Bigfoot.

I mean, there may be a whole different category of paranormal that we haven't even thought about.

And maybe somehow they're all intertwined.

I'm certainly open to that concept.

And some of the stuff I've read

lens itself to what the heck is going on.

I mean, you and I have talked about the lights in Michigan, right?

In Western Michigan, back in the 90s.

I mean, that is a story that to this day, when I still read about it or see more film on it or whatever, still creeps me out.

And in stories like that that make me say to myself, you know what, there's probably something to this.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

My issue with the alien and I do remember you saying that last time like maybe the Sasquatch thing Maybe they're not from Earth.

Maybe they're from somewhere else.

They come here and whatever but I'm open to as usual.

I say this to you every time you're here I have an open mind this film is called.

It's a documentary called the age of disclosure They interviewed the director Dan fair interviewed 34 military and intelligence government officials who admit to the existence of what they call UAPs or unexplained

anomalous phenomena, a new term for UFOs, I guess.

But I think the big thing is that they're saying they exist and it's a disinformation campaign by the government.

What does the government have to lose by telling us aliens exist when a lot of people probably think they do anyway on some level?

My assumption on that is that it

take some control away from our government.

I'm not a big conspiracy theory person.

I'm just not.

But I think as we were just saying about paranormal, there's a lot of stuff we don't know.

I think there's a lot of stuff in our government that we don't know about, that we can't necessarily put our finger on and they like it that way just fine.

And I worry about, I don't worry about it, but I think they probably worry about the effects of this getting out there.

If they've been holding this information from us, let's say Roswell in 1947 in New Mexico actually happened.

Let's say that somehow some evidence comes forward that that actually took place.

How would we feel about our government at that point with holding that information for that long?

And we might be getting to a point in our history as a country, with everything going on politically right now, where

We may be more able to believe that they're withholding information on this than maybe a year ago or two years ago, five years ago.

So I think it's a control thing, right?

We probably believe that our government tries to control the information that we get and how we receive it.

To me, that would just be something on the list of things that they want to control.

Pete Schwaba

It's just here's why I think it's strange is because you it's not like skin color or religion or gender Like you can't go I think that guy's an alien and I don't think it would cause mass hysteria And I do I can't see Trump keeping a lid on that if he could expose this and be the guy I think he would do I think he would release the information.

I mean unless

some of the aliens were on Epstein's plane or something.

Then he probably...

Well, either that or we've got aliens in government or something like that.

You're right.

I agree with you, though.

I think that you're right.

I think that he is the guy that if he was going to, if he wanted to throw things for a loop, that'd be a perfect thing to throw out there and just make things spiral out of control.

Pete Schwaba

Make himself look like a swell guy, you know?

Absolutely.

Pete Schwaba

So they say in the documentary, Todd, they say spacecrafts have been traveling here since the 40s and spying on us.

Again, I've read a couple books that were way above my head that says, you know, if people or aliens were going to travel here from other galaxies, nothing that we know technology-wise would make it through those galaxies.

There would have to be wormholes or something that they get here, and they would most likely be tiny.

And I don't know, do you have a thought about that?

Well, I think I'm not speaking out a term when I say that I think science has has proven the the ability to create or have wormholes So I think that is you know, it's not just something from future Rama, which is one of my favorite cartoons But I think first of all why the 1940s what happened in the 1940s were all of a sudden we as a planet were very

interesting to aliens.

I'm not sure exactly what that's about.

But also, like, again, from what I'm hearing about this documentary or this movie or whatever, where's the proof?

Are we seeing any proof in this thing?

Or is it just people talking about it?

Because we can talk all night and make a bunch of stuff up.

But where's the actual proof to this?

And so far, I haven't seen anything ever that ever went, oh, my God, that's an alien.

Pete Schwaba

Well, and that's what the Hollywood reporters, Daniel Feinberg, dismissed the documentary as a basic cable exploitation doc done up with a fancy gloss in which nothing is proven and thus nothing can be refuted.

The credibility, I guess they might have.

I'll share that after the break, but there are two politicians on each side of the aisle that are kind of supporting this.

So we could talk about that next.

Vicki on the stream says, great discussion, guys.

Thank you.

Vicki, great to have you with us.

Please chime in.

We'd love to hear your opinions.

Todd Michaels is here, ladies and gentlemen, the new and improved.

Well, the beard was pretty cool.

I don't know if you're improved, but he looks good.

Join us on the stream and check out Todd.

He produces minnow in the mayor, and he's a paranormal investigator.

And we'll continue our discussion about aliens next.

This is Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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All right,

Pete Schwaba

Todd is doing like kind of a Mr. Robot thing on the stream.

You couldn't have pulled that off with the beard.

I just want to say that.

Well, that music that was that intro that came in was kind of reminded me like a German techno thing from touch my monkey member from Saturday

Pete Schwaba

Night

Live.

Welcome to sprockets.

That's right.

Now is the time we dance.

Pete Schwaba

I forgot about that.

That's so great.

Todd Michaels is here, ladies and gentlemen.

He produces Mino and the Mayor every day here at WGBW and WISS.

And he's joining us tonight because he is also a paranormal investigator in his free time.

And he's joining us to refute, discuss, whatever, a new documentary that premiered at South by Southwest about, well, last week.

that is insisting there is alien life and they are living among us right now.

Dan Farrah, the director of the Age of Disclosure, got 34 military and intelligence government officials to admit the existence of UAPs, or unexplained anomalous, am I saying that right?

Anomalous phenomenon, the new term for UFOs.

So Todd, where do I go with this?

But where's the

proof?

Well, you mentioned that there were some political people on either side

Pete Schwaba

of the aisle.

Who are they?

Pete Schwaba

I got distracted because this proof question I want to get to.

Marco Rubio and Kristen Gillibrand from New York, a Republican and a Democrat, are in the film.

They both talk.

Gillibrand says it could be something being tested from overseas.

She's more skeptical than Rubio, apparently.

But again, I don't know that that.

is anything either.

Okay, yeah, they could be.

But supposedly they've recorded these objects flying at 50,000 miles an hour, which we don't have anywhere on earth, China, Russia.

So that was interesting.

Again, my question is, and you posed this question earlier, but why hide this from us?

Why not just

say,

here's the situation.

I think it was within the last couple of years, we had all those balloons flying over and, you know, blah, blah, blah.

And then we even had former presidents like Barack Obama saying, well, yes, there are UFOs and stuff like that.

Or I think I remember something like that.

Maybe it was a dream.

I'm not going to lie to you.

But again, if this is really going on, where's the proof?

And right now,

like is would it be so bad if there were aliens and they came and saved us and you know took care of cancer and all that

Pete Schwaba

kind of stuff

would it be that bad I don't think so

Pete Schwaba

especially if the documentary suggests that they've been coming here since the 40s it seems like the bad stuff would have happened by now like they obviously like it here maybe they like going to ball games or a county fair I don't know but why hasn't anything terrible happened I don't see

what the deal is with hiding the proof if there is any.

We have a phone call, Todd.

Can we take a call?

Maybe a question for you, sir?

Sure.

All right.

Conrad, who we got?

We got Cindy from Appleton.

Hey, Cindy from Appleton.

How are you tonight, Cindy?

Good, Pete.

How are you?

Pete Schwaba

Doing very

well.

Well, I totally, oh, top of the evening to you, by the way, I believe in UFOs because I swear to God, I've seen several of them over my lifetime myself because we used to live out in the country.

Wow.

But like I said before on your show,

No alien would stay on this planet because we are the most ignorant species anywhere.

They wouldn't waste their time on us.

So...

Pete Schwaba

But what if it's warmer here, Cindy?

I could put up with this.

I'm sure that still wouldn't matter.

We're just so ignorant.

Like I said, we're destroying our own home.

What other species would come here and say, oh, this is a brilliant bunch of people.

They're destroying their own planet.

Pete Schwaba

I think that...

Conrad, I think we have a new question of the night for tomorrow night.

Cindy, thank you so much.

Always so great to hear from you.

All right.

She makes a good point, Todd.

She does.

And the other thing is maybe they're here to document our destruction of our own lifestyle and life and all that so that they can show other

galaxies and other beings.

Hey, don't do this to yourself.

This was really stupid.

That's I mean, that's the only reason I can think that they're going to be here or really old reruns of what's happening and stuff like that that's still on the paper here or whatever.

Pete Schwaba

You just said reruns and rerun could be their favorite character that could do the rerun dance.

They're trying to perfect that.

I don't know.

Yeah, I to me it's like

You might be right.

Look what these idiots are doing.

We've got a guy like Elon Musk who is so obsessed with going to Mars.

And like I've seen in other discussions, we have a great planet.

It can sustain life here.

Why aren't we taking better care of this?

So maybe there is something there.

In this documentary, Todd, Luis Elizondo, a member of the government's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, was like their all-star guest.

Even he doesn't offer proof.

They just insist it's there.

What's the point of making a film like that?

Have you met any other paranormal investigators who have come close to having proof or have heard of actual proof?

of aliens.

Yeah, no, I've heard a lot of personal stories and stories from people that I genuinely believe and believe that they would never lie to me.

So I've heard stories.

But even in investigating ghosts and energies and stuff like that, it's we're still very skeptical of that.

But we actually have more actual research and things that we can show and play and listen to and and research that we can actually offer up to help

prove the fact that there's something other than just humans on this earth or whatever, energies and stuff like that.

I have not seen anything to prove or disprove alien life on this planet.

That's very well said.

Pete Schwaba

Can we keep you through the news, Todd?

I would love to ask you about Roswell.

Is that good?

Yeah, we can do that.

I know you gotta get to bed.

So I'm going to ask Todd about Roswell after the break because we kind of dipped our toe in that last time.

I think there's a lot of people that don't really entirely understand what happened at Roswell.

I think, you know, there are movies like Independence Day where, you know, oh, they got an alien in a field, but I want to know what the hype is about.

If you could help us with that a little bit, that would be great.

And then maybe a token favorite ghost story of yours.

We can cover two before we let you go.

You got it.

All right.

Todd Michaels is here.

We'll do all that after the news.

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Stick around for that.

That'll be fun too.

It's all happening here on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.