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This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
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And now a guy who loves to watch true crime, but only if it's shoplifting, Pete Chwaba.
Welcome.
Ladies and gentlemen tonight lights I'm so glad the weekend is over and Monday is finally here and we can do another show In front of the entire state of Wisconsin because we are broadcasting live statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay Greats to have you here on a Monday, and I don't think you need any
You don't need any pick me up today because it was so beautiful outside today and Conrad I'll go to you first because every night I ask you how you are you say well pretty good It was 45 today.
You you immediately jump to weather.
I know it fuels you How did you feel today?
Oh, I don't know if you could see but I'm wearing shorts today.
I saw I Saw your shorts.
They're a fine-looking pair of shorts.
Did you come right from the golf course?
I wish I wish I did I wish I did okay
Yeah, that's a beautiful day.
Go ahead.
I gotta say For the stream we're live on Twitter now it Twitter was down like all day I just got it to work so usual Twitter viewer tune in now
we're live
on there
and Things are really picking up.
We have one viewer on Twitter right now, so I can tell people We're a little disgruntled about Twitter, but it is up and running so please join us on Twitter or YouTube or Facebook or WGBW, right?
Yes,
you can also stream us on the app folks.
That is really easy to use and if you're listening on live radio Well, there's nothing wrong with that either.
It's just great to have you at Monday night addition of nightlight a beautiful day Hopefully you're still outside and you're listening to us on the app and taking us with you So however you found us, it's great to have you here fun show tonight.
I've got two in studio guests I always get excited when I have guests coming into the studio We have northeast Wisconsin
based actor Dan Davies who's doing some great things.
He's gonna be here to discuss some projects he has coming up in a big event coming up at the Tarleton Theater here just down the street.
It'll be great to have Dan on the show again.
He's been here before.
We'll catch up with Dan and we'll have a good old time.
It'll be good to have him here.
And then at 720, we have WGBW's own.
Peter is not an on air personality, but Peter Van Doren is a
Big time, he's a cog here at WGBW, WISS.
He does great stuff.
He's a very hardworking guy, got a lot of great accounts, and he is a huge fantasy baseball guy.
So he actually said, hey, I would love to discuss this on the air if you ever want to.
And I said, that's a great idea.
I don't really get, I've done fantasy football periodically.
And even that, I kind of slack off on.
And that, as I understand it, is much easier than fantasy baseball.
A lot
easier that much, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean think about how many games there are
Yeah,
you got to set the lineup every single day every day and Obviously fantasy football.
It's just you know for Thursday.
I can't even keep up with that
Sunday and Monday, so I mean Yeah, I play a fancy basketball.
Okay,
which I do
set my lineup every day.
Yeah,
yeah, but I It's I think it's a lot tougher
For the scoring wise of base.
Yeah, it's a lot tougher to determine who's gonna be who's gonna be good that day because They could go all for four next day.
They could go four for four with two home runs
Yeah, I have friends have done it.
Yeah for years and they do it every year and they get together and they meet for the draft and I don't know how they keep up with it.
So I
I Drafted a team last night
No,
two days ago drafted a team.
I
drafted a fancy baseball team.
I was like, yeah, why not give it a try and my second pick was someone who just has to have Tommy John surgery
So you got to drop them
Yeah, I just, yeah.
Same with football.
You just, okay, cut him loose.
Well, Peter Van Doran will be here in the second hour.
He's going to tell us everything.
I have questions.
I mean, I don't think it's something I'll do, but I feel like there's enough people out there who probably are into fantasy baseball.
If I had more time, I think it's something I could really get into.
But as I mentioned, I tend to slack off even with fantasy football.
One year I won it with...
One year
I
won my fantasy football league and I barely, there were weeks I'd go into it where a guy didn't even play and I didn't replace him.
Like
everyone was so mad that I won.
I'm like, hey, you know, I got the goods people.
So we'll talk about fantasy baseball with Peter.
That's coming up.
That'll be fun.
And talk about baseball in general.
They're in the throes of spring training right now, right?
Like it's full force.
Baseball season is just around the corner.
And on a day like this, I can't think of a better thing to talk about here at Nightlight.
With Pete Van Doran who'll be here.
It'll be fun and Let's see what else kind of there's a lot going on.
I saw some movies over the weekend.
I want to talk about that I want to talk about Vanna White.
I want
to because when you were talking about the when you were doing the show bus beats Yeah, you said you want to go see Mickey 17.
I did I want to dive deep.
I did you see it?
I didn't see it.
Okay, the commercials.
I was like, what is this movie even about?
Cuz I was so confused.
I will explain all of it after we do our question
of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Question.
Questions.
What's in your sack lunch?
Yeah, sounds kind of weird.
But let me set this up.
I'll preface this by saying it is national pack your lunch day.
Do people still pack their lunches?
I know they do.
Sometimes you go to work and there's stuff in the refrigerator.
A lot of people eat out.
But this day in particular brought back great memories for me of putting a brown, a bag lunch together.
When I was a kid, I used to put salami and cheese and mustard.
I think that was my favorite.
Well, peanut butter and jelly was probably my all-time favorite.
Yeah.
But I used to put salami, cheese, and some mustard as I got older.
And then I got hot lunch.
I went to a Catholic school in Marinette.
It wasn't a very big school, Marinette Catholic Central, and they would have, you know, they were serving lunch for like 200 kids.
And if they were serving, they made these pancakes, they would have pancake day.
The pancakes were like an inch thick, really light, not my cup of tea.
If you didn't like what they
were
serving, you were screwed.
It's like, all right, I guess I'm having bacon.
But, so I did take a sack lunch.
I've done it as an adult at times and I think that would be in my sack lunch salami With like cheddar cheese and mustard and right now That sounds pretty damn good.
That's my sack lunch.
What is your sack lunch folks?
It is international.
No national sack lunch day.
I'm sorry.
It's national pack your lunch day So I would love to hear from you 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic
these food questions have gone over gangbusters lately.
People love to talk about food and why, I mean, what's, let's talk about a sack lunch.
What's in yours?
Let me know.
What do you think, Connery?
What are you doing there?
I mean, I haven't packed a lunch in a long time.
It's
usually eat out.
If, you know, if I'm, if I bring a lunch to the studio here, it's whatever I have leftovers in
the,
you know, just bringing something a little healthy.
I don't try it.
I don't want to eat out a lot because I did that in a,
In college wasted a lot of money.
It's expensive.
It ends up for sure
So I'd say when I was younger though, I don't I was a cold lunch person I'd always get the pack a pack of bag lunch because I wouldn't I didn't like what they served usually,
right?
So I had PB and J was just the go-to for me I think
it's so weird because I remember my friends that went to like Marinette Marinette High School and We were at the Catholic school as I mentioned much smaller
And they're like, oh, no, we have burgers.
We don't like the main entree.
We have burgers.
What?
It sounded like it was like fine dining over at the public high school.
And I wouldn't say it's that, but at least you do have options.
So for me, and when I went to Catholic school in Chicago or in Marinette, when we moved up there in junior high, it was kind of the same deal.
There was hot lunch.
Actually, at my Catholic school in Chicago, we always brought our lunch.
And we just would sit it in the coat room.
Like if you had a cold sandwich, you're eating that four hours later and it's warm.
Yeah.
So, but that's what's in my sec lunch.
Salami, cheddar cheese, white bread and mustard.
I'm going retro here.
And that sounds mighty damn fine right now.
Tell us yours again, Conrad.
Well, all right.
So I'd say PB and J was probably my favorite sandwich.
Right.
But when I was younger, I don't know why.
I thought it was the coolest thing to have a lunchable when you walked into the lunchroom.
Oh, wow.
So I always ask my mom for lunchables.
She didn't.
They're so unhealthy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How do you feel now about a lunchable?
Oh, they're disgusting.
They're gross, aren't
they?
So nasty.
I was traumatized, too, because I always had kids that like when I was a kid, my mom was kind of one of those.
She wasn't like a total granola, but she put healthy stuff in there.
I'd get a peanut butter sandwich, carrots.
If I got lucky, maybe some Fritos or something.
But then there were always those kids.
that had like two bags of chips.
Like mostly it was the side items that they were sporting and kind of showing off too.
And I remember whenever I got the opportunity, I would take Doritos.
Yeah.
Taco flavor typically and I would put them on my peanut butter sandwich.
Oh man.
I've done that as an adult at times.
As any sandwich you add chips to it.
I feel like it tastes better
for some reason.
Get that
crunch.
You want to hear something funny is one of the friends I used to sit with at lunch every day.
He'd always get, he'd always pack a lunch every day.
A weird combination he had that I totally forgot about until now.
He usually had a chocolate pudding cup and
he had a
string cheese.
Oh
gross.
And he dip
his cheese.
Oh come on, that's awful.
That's horrifying.
No, we thought it was gross.
But he's like, no, it's really gross.
You gotta try it.
I never got pudding.
My mom would never put pudding in.
Once in a while, you know, she'd splurge and get a ho ho.
or a ding-dong, which are basically the same thing in a different presentation.
But anyway, what's in your sack lunch?
Let's have some fun with this one, folks.
You can go back to your childhood, relive something, or even now, if you took a sack lunch now, how would you make it healthy?
And you don't have to, certainly.
There are no answers, folks.
Only your answers.
So I did see Mickey 17 this weekend.
Bong Joon Ho's new movie he is the creator of parasite he directed it won an Oscar for best picture and best director Very talented guy, and I think I told you last week I watched At the advice of or at the mention of the film from Chris four on the host And that was good from 2006 river monster But I gotta tell you Mickey 17 I'll elaborate a little after the break, but Robert Pattinson is so annoying in the movie
He uses his voice.
It's like so I'm just trying to get by here and I'm an expendable and then you know his tougher self comes out in another version of himself It's one of those but nice message really cool effects too long it kind of Not that great And that was his first swing with a big budget too, which is too bad.
I'm sure I'll get another one Because I really like the guy.
I think he's funny in interviews.
I like his stuff
Did you see Mickey 17 folks?
Let us know what you thought.
I don't know.
We'll talk more.
We got a very short break here.
Then we're gonna tell you what happened on Saturday Night Live between Elon Musk and Mike Myers.
Sort of.
That's coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwama on the Civic Media Radio Network.
at 6.35.
Peter Vandoren with some fantasy baseball talk coming up in hour two.
Our question tonight is, what is in your sack lunch?
This is in honor of the National Pack Your Lunch Day.
So you can tell us what's in your sack lunch, folks.
You can tell us what you like to have for lunch.
You'll elaborate.
If you saw Mickey 17, love to hear your thoughts.
I didn't think it was that great.
That's kind of how we went into the break.
Did you said you were looking forward to did you have friends that saw the film?
I was looking forward because I like Robert Pattison.
Yeah, I did too typically.
I loved him as Batman.
Mm-hmm Doesn't get that that side of him in that film which kind
of sucks really uses is really annoying.
He's like this very passive hero with an annoying voice and The creatures are cool the scenery is great.
I love the idea
But it goes on too long and they don't really get into what the film really is until later and in the meantime you're stuck with him doing this It was very cold and I thought they were gonna kill me, but they didn't and it's just like why am I why is he doing that?
See what when I was watching the trailer.
I thought that it was like he was like a test dummy For like and he like died a bunch of times.
That's what I got from the trailer
that is
the story, like he signs up for this program where he's an expendable and they can kill him and they can reprint his body.
And at the end of the movie, they think he's supposed to die from these creatures, but the creatures are friendly.
And then they reprint him.
So there's two of them.
And it's called a multiple.
And it's just like, got kind of convoluted, but Mark Wahlberg, Mark Ruffalo plays this like politician in it and he's great.
But yeah, it's just not that great.
That's kind of bummed out.
I did watch Heller High Water over the weekend just because I was looking for something to watch and I saw it like when it first came out.
Liked it, didn't love it, but I know a lot of other people love it.
So I gave it another chance.
And yeah, good film.
Taylor Sheridan wrote it.
I'm sure most people have seen it by now.
It's not like I'm breaking news or anything, but I don't know.
And then you saw the Gorge.
I did.
Yeah, I was like, why not?
Go back to Apple TV.
Yeah, coughed up the 10 bucks.
And, you know, I really enjoy some of the stuff they put on Apple.
Like the movies that I've seen besides the wolves, I really enjoyed.
Yeah.
And this movie, what you said was like, yeah, it's a great streaming film.
It's a great Netflix.
I thought Netflix, but you're right.
It's Apple TV.
Yeah.
So I think it would be it's better than a Netflix film, actually.
Right.
I would agree.
But.
I don't know.
I thought it dragged in like the first part.
I feel like that first hour where they, before they go into the Gorge.
Yeah.
I enjoyed it.
I thought I was like, this is getting somewhere really cool because at the beginning you see his, um, pre-assessor
who was at the
Gorge and he, um, got in the helicopter and then they killed
him.
Yeah.
I was like, Oh no.
To give you the premise, it's two watchtowers, in between them is a big gorge covered with smoke and murkiness.
And you get a one-year contract to go and guard the gorge.
And your objective, and they're usually special forces guys, to make sure nothing escapes the gorge, which is intriguing.
One guy, the guy who got there before Miles Teller's character says he thought it was the gates of hell.
and they explain what happens, but Miles Teller's character falls for a woman in the other Watchtower who's also a sniper, Special Forces, played by Anna Taylor Joy, or Anna Joy Taylor.
And they have this crazy weird romance from a mile apart, and you know, I think it's worth a watch, just because, like I said, it's a good streaming movie.
If I went to the theater, I wouldn't have hated it, but I love the fact that I could watch it at home, and I love Miles Teller.
So.
the one thing I the only problem I had with it is when they actually got into the gorge which I knew was
going to happen
because he had a what is that called
the zipline zipline yes
he the zipline I knew was going to you know it was
going to spoil anything yeah
once he gets down there she falls him down there once she sees him and then I just feel like it drags I feel like it's like 40 minutes of down there just
I'm walking around finding clues to what happens, but I feel like it could have been like 20 minutes I wouldn't been fine.
I feel like every movie that's come out in the last six months has been a little too long even the really good ones But not the brutalist that was too short
captain America was way too long.
I agree with that
Yeah, they just always they just fall in love with their work and they're too long cut 20 minutes out You know, that's my issue with the host that Bong Joon Ho's movie from 2006 Half hour shorter that thing's brilliant
But they went into all this stuff that had nothing to do with the the river monster Okay, so we'll get to our we have a clip from Saturday night.
I don't know if we'll get to that before other guests But we'll work that in at some it was Mike Myers appearing on the show again.
I think the second time in two weeks He played Elon Musk as dr. Evil And it's very funny And then I don't know who the guy playing Trump was but he was good and the guy playing Marco Rubio and it was a
parody of what happened apparently last week in the White House.
It was the one thing in the news, apparently.
I didn't read.
I didn't know there was all that drama, but we'll get to that clip.
It's pretty funny.
Our question of the night is what is in your sack lunch?
And that's in honor of National Pack Your Lunch Day.
It's about time packing lunch had a national day, folks.
That's all I'll say.
Paula, let's start.
Oh, we should start from the beginning.
Oh, I went all the way back to steady Eddie's text from last night.
Monica from Mount Horrib checks in.
She says, I was in office today, so I had a PB and J with jalapeno raspberry jelly.
That sounds good.
Amanda in orange and four large carrots.
It's pretty healthy lunch, Monica.
I like the jalapeno raspberry jelly.
Yeah, that sounds
fantastic.
Diane from Madison checks in.
She's also in the 608.
She says, I would pack an apple, an orange, and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with a bag of chips and orange juice from Miss Diane in Madison.
Well, thank you, Miss Diane.
The orange juice is an interesting twist for your beverage of choice at lunch.
I like that.
I
liked apple juice with a PB&J.
That was a big thing in school, wasn't it, when you were a kid?
Yeah.
Apple juice, a little more exciting than water.
There's always that kid back in the 70s and 80s who was drinking water.
Like, that's what you should drink, but how ahead of the times were his parents?
Most kids had soda, Kool-Aid.
No soda, just water.
That's all.
No soda, just water.
Thank you, Diane, for the text.
And then Anna from Madison says, my sack lunch today would be a turkey sandwich on whole wheat bread with mustard, hummus, nice, and rock carrots.
Ooh, I like that.
Little crunch.
And then Lorna Dune, shortbread cookies and a bottle of water.
I think I need to have lunch with Hannah.
That sounds dumb.
Absolutely delicious.
We got more texts coming in.
Tell us what you're favorite.
What's in your sack lunch, folks?
Very simple question.
Let's have some fun with this.
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Actor Dan Davies comes up after the news, and then Peter Van Doren talks fantasy baseball.
In hour two, it's nightlight on a beautiful.
Monday in Wisconsin.
Hope you're having a great night.
It's Pete Schwabba.
I'll be right back.
Hi, this is Danny Slate, and you are listening to Night Light with Geet Swabba.
All right,
our
question tonight
is what's in your sack lunch?
It's National Pack Your Lunch Day.
Paula from the 920 says my favorite is also the PB&J, but I also like ham and cheese with mayo.
My side snack is chips.
That is the all American meal.
Or certainly sack lunch, Paula.
Well done.
Conrad, how do you feel about your mom's choice?
I mean, that's a great choice right there.
That'll
work, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tyler from Wisconsin Rabbit says, what would Jake and Elwood have in their sacks?
Jake and Elwood, the Blues Brothers he's talking about, but I don't remember a
sandwich.
We're on a
mission from God.
On a mission from God.
That's the voice of...
Dan Davies, who joins me in the studio now, a Wisconsin actor.
And not that you only act in Wisconsin, but you're a Wisconsin based actor.
A lot of stuff going on.
I'm excited to get to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really fortunate.
Really busy.
Absolutely.
So it's good to have you here.
What is in your sack lunch, Dan Davies?
That's a personal question.
No.
You know, I'm old school, you know, genteel poverty from Wisconsin.
So it's always baloney.
cheese, white bread, mayonnaise, which actually is really good.
That's a great sandwich with a little onion.
An onion on a bologna and mayo sandwich.
Oh, it's really good.
That would make it a lot better in my
opinion.
Yeah, it's actually excellent.
Okay.
And
then
chips, you know, the same.
What kind
of
chips?
Whatever the, you know, low budget.
The generic Fritos or Doritos.
The moritos.
It's so funny.
I
don't ever, I remember having bologna as a kid.
and not thinking anything of it, but now when I literally get nauseous when I walk past baloney
in the
supermarket.
People still love it, they fry it.
I
just
don't
know what
I'm eating.
It's the color and the texture, I think, that
really creeps me out.
And you don't really know what's in it, too.
Right.
You know, it could be chicken lips or, you know.
Is that probably it?
And look, I
went with salami.
That's not much better.
If
at all actually it is much better.
Is it really?
Yeah, so because that's one of my favorite sandwiches to salami cheese mayonnaise and onions on white bread Wow, yeah, the Wonder Bread Okay, you know
old-school on Wonder
Bread.
Yeah, not even a newer whole grain sleeker healthier.
No, no, no.
I they still make Wonder Bread, right?
Sure.
Yeah, I've seen it.
I've seen Wonder
Bread.
But you go for the generic Wonder
Bread project.
Yeah, which
is Lunder Bread.
Oh, that's great.
So how have you been, dude?
Good, Pete.
You've probably been a few months since you've been here,
but
I see some of your Facebook posts.
I know you're busy.
So you like being busy like that, going from project to project?
Do you get downtime?
It's always a blessing.
It's always really fortunate to be that.
And I know you've had, you know...
Craggers and and all kinds people Ezekiel Drew's on your show.
I don't know him
well enough to call him Craggers though He would I think he would punch me in the throat
if I tried that but you guys are tighter
than we
are Yeah, it's been I'm just have a lot of great things coming up and you know first and foremost is really that giant spider the 50th anniversary screening Which we did have one in why we got a number of months ago, but this is part of the 50th anniversary tour
of The Giant Spider Invasion, which is cult classic directed by Bill Rabain, filmed in northern Wisconsin with Alan Hale and Barbara Hale and all kinds of actors.
And no
relation.
No relation.
That was really weird.
Yeah.
Skipper was, you know, Skipper and Barbara Hale was from Perry Mason.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so it's a great, it's actually a really good film and it's the 50th anniversary.
So Bill Rabain will be there.
He's 88 years young.
And he's gonna be there and you know sign an autographs and all kinds of I'm hosting it and we're having the rise of deer McGuiden right the proof of concept that we put together For a feature film that we'd like to start filming this summer.
Hopefully summer fall and that's gonna start the evening off and then I my shtick and then We'll introduce bill rebain and then and it's at the Tarleton part of the Green Bay Film Festival.
It's this Friday at seven o'clock
Tickets are still available, and they're dirt cheap.
They're only like 10 bucks.
That's the best, you know, film festivals are great.
I love almost any film festival I've been to.
I just like the experience.
I like the celebration of movies, but this festival, 10 bucks, because they can get expensive.
Some
festivals are expensive, and I still feel like it's worth the money, but 10 bucks, you almost can't afford not to go.
Even if you hate movies,
you have to go spend 10.
Tarleton 2, which is really a cool venue.
And it's been around, it's been a cinema since I think what, 1925 or something like that.
And it's one of the oldest in North of Milwaukee.
It's beautiful, I love it.
So it's gonna be a great venue, a great time.
And Bill Rubin is just an amazing guy.
You've had him on your show before.
He's 88.
I
wanna tell you something about Bill Rubin.
When I was putting my questions together, I can't type anymore, Dan.
I
hate
typing.
So I use voice a lot.
And when I
said Bill Rebane's name, it came up as Billy Rubin.
That's his Jewish half brother.
I'm Billy Rubin.
I'm not
from the North.
Correct.
And if Bill shows up looking jaundiced or yellow, you'll know it's because he lacks Billy Rubin.
But I hope that doesn't happen.
No, he's been on the show.
He's great.
He's very sharp.
Let me
ask you this about Bill.
You know, sharp as he still seemed, I know he has some physical issues.
He probably, for those reasons alone, could not direct.
But does he still write?
Yeah, he still writes.
He could direct, though, but it would be shorter days.
It wouldn't be the long eight to 12 hour days.
He would be able to direct.
He's still sharp as attack.
He's still writing things, still crafting and creating things.
He will say, Dan, I've got a part for you in this, this and this.
And he's been in the business for over 60 years.
And he knows so many of the old school guys from Hollywood and worked with them since about 19.
the late 1950s and yeah he still he still has projects and and you know his darling that was giant spider invasion that
was
a top 25 box office when it came out in 1975 right which is just crazy that's when jaws came out and all these you know great films one flew over the cuckoo's nest and and all kinds of stuff and
you know, giant spiders right up there with them.
Yeah, that's cool.
That's going to be fun this Friday.
And it sounds like Bill kind of got screwed on
some of the money.
Yeah, he did.
Creative Hollywood account.
Yeah, like, yeah, which happened a lot during that time.
So I think it still happens.
I think it does, too.
Yeah, Sean Connery was the one to kind of put some of that shenanigans to rest.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Back about 25, 30 years ago, he wanted to go through their books,
you
know.
Oh, wow.
Just say let me see.
Because he was a
promised like four percentage points net percentage points and there's never net but he says Willers got to be you know so he was he was calling him up saying I'll come visit you and we'll go through the books together and they're like oh you don't have to do that because he's a bad a bad oh we forgot to carry a one we'll kind of check
yeah I it's funny you say that because I have a lot of my friends are writers and Steven Leo Steve Rodney Cleo Benvenuti have been on this show and I've never asked them directly
in person, but I've heard that when they wrote the Santa Claus, the studio, they always offer net points.
And I
remember
when we sold a guy thing, it was like, well, you'll get 5% of the net and everyone's like, you're never gonna see that.
Yeah, it's like, okay.
Well, in the case of the Santa Claus, here's how it happened.
Here's what has to happen for you to get net points in Hollywood.
The actor, Tim Allen, was his first feature film, so they didn't overpay him.
The film did so well, they didn't promise any of the gross to anybody, so.
even with creative Hollywood accounting.
They couldn't hide the profits.
But that's what it takes.
That's so wrong.
Anyway, Bill, I
understand, felt kind of victim to that.
He did, really.
But there are other things in the works.
You might be doing Giant Spider 2.
And he's got these other great projects.
And it's an honor when he asked me to be a part of them.
Sure.
And to have a role in them.
I'm just like, Bill, I've been a fan of his.
I saw Giant Spider Invasion when I was nine years old.
10 years first came out.
Yeah, it
was at the
Rosa in Wapaka, Wisconsin.
And I went with one of my uncles.
I think he was drunk.
And he's like,
Danny, we're going to go see a giant spider for mate permission.
He
didn't know he's talking about a
movie.
No, no.
My uncle
Wayne actually, yeah, he came off the Menominee res and then took me to a film and then we went into a bar.
right afterwards, which was fun.
At 10.
Yeah, at 10.
Okay.
Would you have
an old-fashioned?
No, the Shirley Temples.
Okay.
Yeah, it was, you know, but he was at least kind of cool that way.
He wouldn't feed me drinks or anything until it was probably 12, so bless his heart.
That would be the perfect opportunity for you to slide your Shirley Temple glass back across the bar and say, don't be afraid to put a little booze
in it.
Yeah, don't be
afraid.
I can't develop an alcohol issue if I don't have any booze.
I have 10 going on, 21.
Bring it on,
no.
So, what can people expect, Dan?
Like, you're gonna host the occasion for
the
50th anniversary at the Tarleton.
If people decide to go, let's say they've never seen the film, what can they expect in terms of the movie and then what happens
afterwards?
Sure, so yeah, we'll start the evening off.
I think it's either Kregers or...
Nick or Vance is going to give me an intro.
I'll come on, do my shtick.
We'll do the Rise of Dyrmageddon, that provokat concept that we shot, which is really, it's when in film festivals and all kinds of things, it's about 15 minutes.
I'll come back on again and do a little shtick and then do a little intro to the Giant Spider invasion.
I'll intro Bill Rabain and then the film.
And then we'll have a Q&A after.
That's so great.
What's the reaction?
Like you showed this at Weigah.
Yeah.
When people see Giant Spider, I'm sure film enthusiasts love it.
Yeah.
Have you have you seen people that didn't know what to expect that went in?
What's their reaction?
So we got a standing ovation in why we got at the Gerald Opera House, which was really, really cool.
And, you know, Bill was his daughter showed up kind
of
unannounced surprise.
And there were friends he hadn't seen for years.
And it was a wonderful event.
So we're hoping the same thing.
this Friday and being part of the Green Bay Film Festival and being part of the Tarleton is always nice.
Yeah, for sure.
When you do these events.
You say proof of concept
for
people that might not understand it.
I don't fully understand it.
That's when you shoot a part of the film to show to investors.
Yeah, tell us about that
a little bit.
So we shot 15 minutes worth of a film that we're going to start hopefully shooting this summer fall.
It is a we call it the citizen cane of zombie apocalyptic zombie dear musicals
about time somebody and
it's a comedy and it's a musical and has a really good message and we shot the 15 minutes and we sent it to a bunch of film festivals it ended up winning a lot of them which surprised
us
and now we're gonna put the Prospectus and pitch packet together to raise money for it and you show them the 15 minutes to say this is what we did on a
shoestring budget imagine what we can do with you know 200,000 with your money Yeah, we're gonna take your
money and run So what okay, so you get the proof of concept.
Have you raised?
I assume you've raised money for projects because you've done a lot of independent films a lot of films What is that process like?
I'm sure people listening are like my guest by the way is Dan Davies He's a local actor and filmmaker Check him out at the Tarleton this Friday night, right this
for the
50th anniversary of a giant spider invasion Dan does great work as a host as well as
as an actor.
So I got totally sidetracked.
What's it like going and raising money?
I've done it myself.
Do I
hate it?
It's terrible.
What's
it been like for you?
It's basically, you know, you have to do the horse and pony show, but you have to have a real prospectus.
You have to show the ROI return on investment potential.
You have to go through all of that.
And you do, we could do Kickstarter, GoFundMe.
There's all different angles to go at it to raise the money.
But if you could get a few angel investors, and they literally are angels,
because
to be honest with you, it's not.
you know, it's it's any investment nowadays is risky, but film is is especially risky.
But you try to modify that by saying we've got already a distributor interested.
We got three distributors actually interested in the project before it was it's even made.
So you have to kind of say we've got a distributor.
This is who stars in it.
This is boom, boom, boom.
This is your return on investment.
And then you just try to raise from then.
So you
say that.
But I feel like
You know, at least when I would approach people, I would say, look, investing money is risky
to
begin with.
But for one guy in particular, I'm like, you can invest in another parking lot, probably have a safer investment, obviously, or...
You can invest in something really cool and have your name on it.
You bet.
And I mean, does that resonate with people?
Are they interested in being part of it that way?
When you pitch it as invest in your local economy, local filmmakers, and it's a creative endeavor.
You can be part of this creative endeavor.
Very cool.
All right, we're going to get into that.
I want to ask you about...
The Rise of Dear Mageddon, The Proof of Concept.
And you have another film, Ed Gein, The Musical.
Oh, that's a stage play.
Yeah, no, it's a stage.
All right, we'll talk about that.
It's the next Hamilton, maybe.
Right?
You never
know.
Sweetie Todd.
Sweetie Todd, there you go.
All right, Dan Davies, local actor, Northeast Wisconsin based actor.
But he acts all over the place.
He's acting up tonight in the studio.
And that's why it's great to have him here.
This is Peach Wobb and Nightlight.
We're coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I did our start And it breaks my heart When it did our fall I wanna cry cry
We are back.
From the 814, Jameson, he's in Pennsylvania says, did you mean what's your six pack lunch?
Just kidding.
If anything, that's an iced tea, an energy bar, and then hope to get in a smoke before the break is over.
Hashtag working life.
I would imagine if James had had to give up something out of that, it would not be the smoke, just guessing.
Daniel from Anastasia says his sack lunch would be, oh no, this is not a sack lunch.
Okay, Daniel is commenting on Mickey 17.
He says, I imagine Michael Keaton's 1996 movie, Multiplicity, when I heard about Mickey 17.
You know what, Daniel?
I didn't love multiplicity.
It was a great idea, but I don't, I don't even think Mickey 17 is as good as that.
That's my personal, that's my personal, someone said a Trump sandwich, old white bread full of bologna, Russian dressing in a
small pickle.
Small pickle.
I
don't usually talk about politics.
It was tough not to read that.
I know nothing about the pickle.
Okay.
So Dan Davies is here, ladies and gentlemen.
He is a, do you live in Appleton?
I live in Appleton.
Okay.
Appleton based actor.
Are there other actors in Appleton that are as kind of busy as you?
Do you have circles that you can hang with there?
Well, you know, that Willem Dafoe is from
Appleton and, you know, Harry Houdini and Edna Ferber.
So Appleton has had a lot of celebrities.
But yeah, I love Wisconsin.
I'm a massive Packer fan.
I love living here.
And to be honest with you, I've done Nollywood films so that I've done films in Nigeria, Ghana, Serbia, Qatar, Ireland, Jamaica, Bahamas, all over the United States and Canada.
But Appleton is my home.
Yeah,
I
don't like our winners anymore, but I love living here.
I love living in Northeast Wisconsin.
The people are amazing.
It's inexpensive living and, you know, low crime and
lots of beer.
Isn't that funny?
You're saying it's inexpensive.
Even Appleton, by standards, of other places, is still very affordable.
Where I live, it's really affordable.
You want to buy a house in Marinette, Dan?
They'll send you cab fare.
You go up there and check it out.
So that's cool.
And why not?
With acting, you can live.
As long as you have connections and you have people looking for work for you.
It makes sense.
And a lot of times
I'm doing auditions.
If I'm asked to do an audition, sometimes somebody will see something on Netflix or Hulu and they'll go, oh, Dan, you're going to be good for this role.
We'll just attach you.
But if I do an audition, I have literally a studio in my house.
Oh,
nice.
I'm able to do it.
So that I literally did one and there were 3,500 other gentlemen up for the role.
on this film that was going to be shot in New York.
And it had musical elements to it.
And I didn't get it, but it was narrowed down, which is always kind of cool, but 3,500 other guys.
That's a casting director's assistant who probably hates his life hacking through all that tape.
You said, all right, let's stick with this.
You mentioned musical.
Dear Mageddon, the musical is a stage play.
Well, Dear Megan, the musical is the...
I'm sorry, Ed Geen is... Ed Geen.
You have two musicals, and that's kind of where I was going with this anyway.
What is your musical background?
So I'm from Wapaka High School.
We had
a
great choral director.
He was there for about 40 years, his name was Gerald Kniffel.
He really got me interested in acting and musicals.
And he said, Dan, you could do this for the rest of your life if you put your head to it.
And I did.
And I created and gained the musical in 2010.
And that got nationwide on PBS, as well as Retro TV Network had 500 theatrical screenings all over the US.
And then that got
resurrected, SRS Cinema bought it.
We did another 13th anniversary tour last summer.
And now it's being made into a theatrical stage play, which I'm really super excited for.
So I adapted my screenplay into a stage play and got really great actors.
We've got Ezekiel Druze, the actor from Milwaukee, stage actor and film actor, to play Ed Gein.
I'm playing the sheriff in it.
Our
director is Deborah Lee from the Oshkosh area.
We have a great casting crew.
through great people that are working their butts off for our world premiere, which is April 4th, April 4th through the 6th
in
Oshkosh at the Time Community Theater, which is really cool because it's a 501C3.
So all the rental fees, all the concessions, and a bit of the tickets go back to this 501C3, which helps this theater, cinema in the middle of downtown Oshkosh.
So
we're
super excited.
for it and we're getting a lot of amazing press like crazy press too with it so when
you Like you wrote the thing you're not the main actor But did you have to go out and raise money for this or is this like a company?
Approaches you and says we'd like to do this
when the film the film I Myself and my business partner we self-funded that okay the theatrical play I'm funding okay as well and But you know we have to I'd like it to get to a point where
have it so it's off-broadway.
I've got interest in Minneapolis, got interest in Chicago, interest in Boston to actually have the theatrical play there.
So it's really a unique play.
It's a musical about a necrophilia cannibalistic serial killer.
All I can think about is singing and dancing when you put it that way.
How do you not want to see this, folks?
The fourth through the sixth in Oshkosh.
Where can people find out more information about that?
So
they could go to the Time Community Theater, their website in Oshkosh, or you could go to edginethemusical-play.com.
That's edginethemusical-play.com.
go on to that website, and it'll show you what about tickets and the background of the play itself and all kinds of fun things.
Very nice.
We have a text for you.
We'll read that.
Can you stick around through the news?
I would love that.
All right, we'll do that, and we'll read some more of your texts.
What is in your sack lunch, folks?
That's our question tonight.
Annie from Watertown says, my father, born 1927, spoke with ethereal love for the goose grease sandwiches.
Warmed by the schoolhouse Wood Stove.
He died from heart disease 73 years ago, but next generation worse.
I feel kind of bad for Annie.
I started laughing and now it's like we're gonna decipher that text.
Annie, I'm sorry.
We're coming right back with Dan Davies, Peter Vanndoren, and Fantasy Baseball Talk coming up in hour number two.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Just wanna close your eyes
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chihuahua.
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And now, a guy who likes pina coladas but hates getting caught in the rain, Pete Chihuahua.
It is so much fun tonight talking about sack lunches.
Even the phrase sack lunch cracks me up.
Probably because I'm very mature.
But Brian from Milwaukee says turkey stuffing, meatloaf, and sweet potato fries, green beans, and cranberry sauce.
That's a great one.
That's like Ross Geller's sandwich on Friends, the favorite sandwich.
Annie from Watertown says tune the salad sandwich and Cheetos.
became this great lunch, sixth grade field trip, eating mom's brown bag lunch, sitting in the bus in the rain outside the Chicago Science and Industry Museum, 1968 or 1969.
Still a favorite weird drug of food, despite the paths my diet has gone since.
It's interesting, food truly is medicine.
You're absolutely right, Andy, that's a great text.
And Steve from Florida says, great lunch sandwich is liver worst and sliced onion.
Finish it up with a little Debbie brownie.
Mmm.
I Don't know about that.
I
love little Debbie's
you love onions.
Yeah, you put onions on anything but alright Steve I'd probably start with a little Debbie brownie and Finish with it as well if liver worst is in my lunch
We'll get to the rest of your texts as the show goes on.
Please join us.
We have the question tonight in honor of National Pack Your Lunch Day is, what is in your sack lunch?
My guest right now is Dan Davies.
He is a local filmmaker and actor who's doing some really cool things.
Very busy guy, taking time out here to be in the studio with me tonight.
We'll get to some more of Dan's projects in a minute, but I guess we have a phone call, Conrad.
For Dan.
Yes.
All
right.
Dan's getting all his calls here.
Wow.
Do I owe you money?
Yeah, just a dime though.
We're going old school.
Who is this, Conrad?
Susan from McFarland.
Susan from McFarland.
How are you, Susan?
I'm good.
Thank you.
I was calling because you piqued my interest because there's nothing musical about edginess.
So I was just trying to figure out how one makes a musical
to
take away the sting from edginess.
It's
a great question.
Yeah, that's a great question.
Thank you, by the way, Susan.
I'm from Wapaka about 15 minutes from Plainfield.
My grandfather worked for the Washera County DNR.
His best friend was the arresting sheriff who arrested Ed Gein.
He actually knew who Ed Gein was.
When I did the film in 2010, I interviewed a number of people from Plainfield.
I also did about three years worth of research to find out who Ed was from when he was at Wausau.
It was called The Hospital for the Criminally Insane or Mendota and had all the psychiatrists and psychologists in the books from Robert Galmer and literally learned as much as I could about him.
My film is a psychological treatise on why he became who he became.
His dad physically abused him and his mom.
they say sexually abused him.
So this was a recipe for disaster.
And there's gallows humor throughout the film as well as in the theatrical play, but it's done with respect.
I don't glorify Ed.
I don't glorify his actions.
I don't demean the victims and I don't minimize what he did And it's but there's some funny stuff and there's great music in it But just like Sweeney Todd is how could you make a you know play about a guy who's a cannibal and serving?
Yeah lunch counter meets with a human in it And you know so it's again, it's it's it's funny and it's you walk away with
Hopefully you walk away with an appetite.
And it's not because I wrote it and then I'm in it.
I think it's an amazing stage play.
And I think it's funny and it's lighthearted, but it's also psychologically meaningful
as well.
Susan, thank you so much.
I hope Dan answered your question
there.
Thank
you, Susan.
It's on to be right now.
It's
on.
Thank you so much.
Have a great night.
Drive
carefully,
Susan.
Thank you.
So how did you get started in?
Oh, wait, we have one more.
I don't want to miss, we've got two more comments for you, actually.
Daniel from Anasha says, was it difficult to make a tongue, kind of the same question, similar question, was it difficult to make a tongue-in-cheek version of Ed Gein's story if you want to give a condensed version of what we just said to
Susan?
And again, first of all, thank you, Daniel, for that great question.
It's not really tongue-in-cheek.
The interrogation, I've actually used a lot of the
the actual words and the things and the questions that the sheriff was asking during the interrogation.
And I did as much research to make it as correct as possible.
Michael Blake, the guy who wrote the Academy Award winner, danced with Wolves at Scenar Film.
He said it's the best film ever on Ed Gein.
Now he's passed.
He's
in
heaven right now, but that was the biggest thing.
So I think it's a really cool film.
That's awesome.
We've got one more for you, Dan.
Don't go anywhere.
You're not leaving yet.
Are you?
No.
Okay.
Hell no Ezekiel on the watching on Facebook says how about some chili made with TLC?
Maybe that wasn't directed to you.
Maybe our sack lunch
So that that's an interior that's a that's an inside joke actually Ezekiel's playing Ed Gein So and the TLC is you'll have to you'll have to see the the world premiere of the theatrical play
That's great incentive.
Thank you Ezekiel for watching on the stream and we have another phone call But this is for our question of the night.
Yeah, this is Ali from the Northwoods Hey
Ali, yeah real quick the old our old school lunch used to be mom would pack a tuna sandwich and an orange and To this day every time I smell orange
I'd go right back to tuna sandwiches
at
that lunch in school.
And another thing that we used to get was every time we went traveling, which we did a lot, mom always packed picnic lunch.
We never stopped at restaurants rarely.
And it would always be a warm ham sandwiches, mayo, and a boiled
egg.
I liked what you offered with the soup question better, Ollie, last week.
I'm not gonna lie.
I don't know about that ham and egg, but hey, thanks so much for calling
it, Ollie.
Thanks for listening.
All right,
Dan, I don't wanna go off on a tangent.
Look at the size of my head compared to yours on the screen.
I feel like my head needs to be in a museum.
Well, you have a ginormous head.
And you're not the first guest who said that no, but but my grandma said big had big wit little head not a bit You're a witty
guy.
I wouldn't say of a small head.
That's
not 25 inch circumference.
That's
you've measured your head
Yeah, because somebody said I could be at the Ringling Brothers Barnabon Bailey with a circus freak like head when I was a kid They said can we show movies on your head and I'm like what?
Yeah,
so I know what
that's like.
I get a size eight hat
You know, I don't even know
what my
I should run
over I don't even know what I could well the average is probably seven Is there
a way I
can make money off the size of my head?
Well, yeah, I put advertising right up there So all right, so ask answer this how did you get start like are there training place like let's say someone from Northeast, Wisconsin comes to you and says hey I want to do what you do.
How do I get started?
Yeah, I tell them you know always go online, you know, there are great
Videos on YouTube that can give you some really good solid acting advice You know get the professional headshots try to do as much film as you can for for gratis for free a lot of times you'll get gas and you know in Wisconsin It's beer and pizza or whatever right do will do as many of those things as possible do as much local theater as possible
If you have the money, go find somebody, Green Bay, Milwaukee, or Madison, that's an acting coach.
Take a few classes.
There's a lot of stuff online.
And just have fun with it.
It's tough to do it in Wisconsin.
You need to also be able to travel.
And that's, you know, the biggest thing.
But I always say, just enjoy yourself with it and, you know, take whatever is given you in
the Midwest.
So even if you have to be a PA, learn what it's like to be a PA and then watch the director and watch the actors.
And you might find out, and this happens once in a while, you go, I don't even want to be an actor anymore.
I want to be a lighting technician or
a
director or the sound guy.
That sounds really cool.
Or the post production guy,
you
know, doing editing.
So but yeah, do as many things for free as possible.
And people
that do
those
things, those
are
good livings too.
That's a thing like in the union or whatever and work a lot.
Oh, yeah.
And I also think people like nowadays, maybe since COVID, but.
how audition tapes, like sometimes my agent will contact me, I'll send, I'll do a file on my phone.
And that's acceptable.
Whereas 10, 20 years ago, you had to drive to Milwaukee, drive to Chicago, then living in here was, was much more difficult, would you say?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's, that's a nice thing about it, you know, to be able to do the auditions just, you know, online.
And if you have a halfway decent phone or even your laptop, you'd be able to do it and send it out.
And yeah, and you're up against many other people.
And like I was saying earlier, a lot of times people see something that I'm in in Netflix or Hulu or PBS and go, we like you, we want you to play this.
Or can you play a Russian?
Can you play this?
And I always tell them, yes, I can, even if I can't.
Then you learn.
And you Google something else and try to sound like Igor Szerovinsky.
All right.
We got about a minute and a half left, Dan.
Who are you acting?
influences like who as a kid or even as a young adult could you not turn off when you watch them on TV or in the movie?
You
know the first real actor that I always said the first natural actor everybody says it was Marlon Brando it was actually Jimmy Stewart
Jimmy Stewart was the first natural actor.
Prior to him, they'd be like, hey there, Bobby, come on over to the
soup kitchen.
They were doing characters.
They were doing
characters.
You know, where Jimmy Stewart's like, well, you know what you are, Mr. Potter, you're nothing but a scurvy little spider.
The people here live in this community.
Is it too much to ask that they live in a nice home?
You know, he was real.
And
he's my hero.
And Humphrey Bogart as well.
What did you think about our favorite Humphrey Bogart movie?
Casablanca is my favorite.
Rick Blaine.
All I want to do when I see that movie is hang out at Rick's American Cafe.
It's such a great joint.
Isn't it?
That movie is just magic to me.
What did you think about Gene Hackman as an actor?
Were you a fan?
Oh, I loved him.
Again, every
man.
He
played Gene Hackman.
But he played it well.
And he never made a bad movie.
Boy, that's a great point.
There are some actors who are so great, even a bad script can't.
Yeah.
Make, you know, they
can
help.
I don't know.
I, he's great.
Tom Cruise, I think, is another one who does not, whether you like Tom Cruise or not personally, because I went through a phase where I was like, eh, and then he's jumping on Oprah's couch.
I'm like, whoa, what a weirdo.
He's got the Scientology thing always in the forefront, but the guy doesn't make a clunker.
He doesn't make a clunker.
People that work with him love him.
Yeah.
Right.
That too.
They love him.
Dan, this was fun.
Thank you, my friend.
Thank you, Pete.
Come back soon.
Crush it at the Green Bay Film Festival.
This
Friday.
And then the world
premiere, Ed Gein musical, April 4th.
Outstanding.
Thank you, Pete.
Dan Davies.
Go see him this Friday at the Green Bay Film Festival.
Coming back with some fantasy baseball talk, it's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Gain he's referring to was partial to fava beans and chianti served cold I Cannot nor do I want to confirm or deny that and Tyler says in his sack lunch.
I would imagine so Fictitious character we can give him whatever we want, right?
Tony the trucker says Pete my lunch bag is the biggest igloo cooler made so it's like a small suitcase in it.
I have three bottles of water a bottle of Craner G Cran energy drink.
I'm guessing yeah
Yogurt granola and energy bar carrot sticks cheese sticks and orange and orange grapes a banana and Trisket crackers I usually work 10 to 12 hours a day.
So this covers lunch and supper sounds like a lot, right?
Yeah, it sounds like you're preparing for the apocalypse Tony That's great Tony the trucker.
I thought he was our overnight listener Or is that a different trucker?
This
is Tony the
Tiger.
Tony, thank you
for the text.
That's
awesome, dude.
What is in your sack lunch, folks?
It's National Pack Your Lunch Day.
That's the question of the night.
Did I get all these kind?
I think I'm caught
up.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
People love food questions.
We gotta have a, you know, maybe we'll do like a recipe thing.
It's just not the question of the night anymore.
It's just food questions.
Just food questions.
We'll do that.
All right, so very exciting folks.
Tomorrow night on the show, from the Overture Center, Tim Sowers will join me.
I'll be live from Madison, and then Jeff Blankenship, the director, will join me.
And we might have a surprise guest.
We'll see what happens.
It'll be another fun night on Nightlight.
Right now, we are turning our attention to something I know nothing about, and that's why I'm excited.
A guy that works here at WGBW, he's got great accounts, he works his butt off.
Peter Van Doren joins me now.
He approached me about a couple of weeks ago and said, hey,
Would you ever want to do a fantasy baseball thing?
I said, yes, because I don't get it.
Pete, I've done football.
I've done fantasy football.
I hear that fantasy baseball is much more you have to really immerse yourself in it.
Well, I think I think in some ways it is a little more involved.
But the way I look at it is that, you know, with fantasy football, you're still, you know, looking at your lineup, you're, you know, sculling the.
you know, available players that aren't claimed already on fantasy teams.
You are, you know, checking injury reports, making, you know, making trade proposals.
The difference.
essentially is just with fantasy baseball.
You're just checking your line up more often, you know, right?
And if you're playing fantasy football rather intensely, you're probably on that website, you know, several times a day anyway, at least, you know, once a day, if you're
passionate
about
it.
I have to back up because I think there's a lot of people probably that don't really know.
Let's start like we're five years old.
Yeah.
Tell us what fantasy
baseball is.
Sure, sure.
So I actually want to just, you know, get this presented well.
So I researched Wikipedia.
Fantasy baseball is a game in which participants serve as owners and general managers of virtual baseball teams.
The competitors select their rosters by participating in a draft in which all relevant major league baseball players are available.
So the fantasy points are awarded based on actual performance of baseball players.
in real world competition.
Okay.
And so what that means essentially is that, you know, you are the owner of a fantasy team.
You have real players on this team and you're playing on, on the server in this day and age, like almost every major news sports outlet probably has a fantasy football site to go with Yahoo ESPN, CBS Sports.
I could play all those websites.
Okay.
Um,
with the game of fantasy baseball, there's essentially two different formats, right?
You've got head to head, which is very similar to how people play fantasy football.
Meaning the team that you oversee plays against someone else.
Another
real person.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And basically at the end of the week, you know, you win.
How baseball is a little bit different is it goes by categories instead of just kind of a cumulative
score based on real, you know, FL players performance.
Okay.
Um, so that's, that's one style that's, you know, very popular.
The other most popular format is rotisserie and rotisserie fantasy baseball leagues.
You're trying to build based on select categories and you're trying to lead the league in each of those categories.
So when you think of like major, you know, stats and baseball, you've got like.
batting average home runs, stolen bases.
Okay.
Uh, you're trying to, you know, essentially accumulate, you know, more of that than the rest of your opponents in the league.
So both of them.
And really most of fantasy sports for season long, we talk about season long.
It just involves the regular season.
So it's.
you know, all 162 games of the baseball season.
That's a commitment.
Yeah.
And last year, there was 163 because the Mets played that extra game.
All right.
Yeah.
So when you say there, there's rotisserie, there's one on one.
When you're doing rotisserie, are there still one on one matchups?
There's no matchups with the rotisserie.
You're competing against everybody.
Is that less
like if you were going to participate or join a league, it's rotisserie less time consuming.
I don't know that it's less time-consuming.
I think they both take up about the same amount of time.
I like the challenge of rotisserie because I think that oftentimes in a head-to-head league, you can be very dominant in some categories.
And that'll carry you through.
But with rotisserie, it really kind of exposes those weakens.
You have to have a very balanced team.
And that's why when we look at fantasy baseball players,
Oftentimes the more desired hithers are going to be those players that put up, they call it like five categories.
And, you know, it's, uh, stolen bases, homeruns, RBIs, runs, batting average.
Okay.
They have a very complete player like that.
It's easier.
put them in your lineup every day, you're going to get all those counting stats in your favor.
Do
they, in baseball, do they track defense like they do?
I know that was kind of
an
addition.
There is not.
No.
No, often in fantasy football, you play like a defensive team.
It's just kind of how that squad does the whole in a given game.
Baseball, typically there's no defense involved in it.
Even if a guy wins a gold glove.
He's dead to the fantasy baseball world.
Yeah, it's pretty much often.
It's so terrible.
It's pretty much offensive production
and pitching.
Okay.
All right.
Peter Vandoren is here, folks, for talking fantasy baseball.
I don't know much about it.
I'm trying to learn a little bit about it.
I know.
the basics of fantasy football.
And when I joined fantasy football here at Civic Media, I had a rocker saw that I was not taking it seriously.
He's one of the Maxink radio hosts.
And he said, I just want to remind you, you're in the pro league here.
We have a smaller league if you'd rather do that.
So I won that league this year.
Oh, the pro
league.
Very well done.
I didn't join at all.
I know my limitations.
We're coming back.
Civic Media's award winning news team is about to tell you what you need to know.
And then we'll be back reading your texts and talking more with Peter Van Doren about fantasy baseball.
This is Pete Schwabba.
and Night Light.
So glad you're with me on this Monday night.
This gorgeous Monday night on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Every time I think of you, I feel a shock right through and above all through.
It's no problem in mind, but it's a problem I find.
Living a life that I've never had.
All right, and have a nice day out, folks.
But we're making it even better.
We're talking sack lunches, and acting, and fantasy baseball.
And Bridget checks in from the 818 on the text line.
She says, my mom packed a PBJ sandwich with butter.
Oh, that's a Wisconsin thing.
Butter on peanut butter and jelly.
Oh, so it's...
Or
on a ham sandwich.
PBNB
and
J?
PBNJNB.
Just to complicate things.
She thought it was a treat.
I didn't particularly like the butter, but I thought that was how they were made.
Oh, man, Bridget's mom totally steered her wrong.
Unintentionally, I'm sure.
But no, that's the thing in Wisconsin, two ham sandwiches.
I go to my wife's family reunions in New London.
And they had ham sandwiches.
They were serving ham sandwiches with butter and mayo.
And I thought the guy was joking when he said, I go, oh, what's on this butter and mayo?
And I kind of went, and there was nothing from the guy.
He's like, I'm like, oh, OK, I don't think I could eat that.
I don't think I could muscle that down if he paid me.
And then we got some comments on the stream.
This is Rondo, Rondo Huckbody.
Rondo if that's not made up.
I apologize.
It sounds made up and I love it either way He says knock it out of the park Pete Is that you yeah?
That's a friend of mine.
That's a friend.
It's a real name.
Yeah.
Well, come on Aaron.
It's Aaron
Aaron.
All
right.
Well, let's yeah, okay Oh, what happened?
We got some something going on here with the stream.
So is he in fantasy baseball with you?
He is not no, okay?
I don't like way back of the day.
He's taking out pee buys together where?
Oh, nice.
OK.
And Rondo says, who are the key players on your pro league team?
First, let's get to that in a second.
Pete, what is in your sack lunch?
Sure.
What's in my sack lunch?
Your sack lunch.
You put your lunch together at home?
Well, yeah.
So, like, I cut some venison sausage like
every day.
Some venison summer
sausage.
Yeah, I've eaten a lot of
that this week.
OK.
I can tell by your rosy glow you've been eating a lot of venison.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Peter VanDoren, ladies and gentlemen, joining me in the studio tonight.
He's part of the team here at WGBW.
Does great work.
Sales, and you've got your accounts are crushing, right?
Yeah, man.
Yeah,
yeah.
I'm in sales.
I work kind of between here as well as WISS, which is our Appleton and Oshkar station.
Alpton and Oshkosh are official affiliates of the Milwaukee Brewers.
I was going to ask you about that.
So why don't you elaborate on that
for
sure?
Definitely want to give a shout out
to that.
So we've got all the games, all 162 plus.
Right now we've got spring training going on.
Wow.
We are going to have the playoffs, I think, right up through the World Series.
I mean, potentially, hopefully the Brewers make it.
We'll see what happens with them, you know?
but we are looking for business sponsors for that too.
So if you were a business owner or you do marketing for a company, definitely reach out to us.
You can give us a call here in the studio, Conrad will pick up, take your information, and we'll totally get you set up as an
in-game sponsor of the Milwaukee Brewers.
I'm just gonna tell you folks, here's what a great closer Pete is when it comes to sales.
He got me to buy advertising on my own show.
So it's Night Light with Peach Wamba sponsored by Night Light Peach.
I'm out 10 grand somehow, and it was like I was totally hoodwinked, and I just went with it.
So the guy knows his stuff.
But so all right, now we'll go back to, so I'm sorry, your sack lunch is?
Venison sauce.
That's it?
Venison summer
sausage.
Well,
you know,
I pack an apple,
you know,
maybe like a bag of Doritos.
Dipping sauce for the venison.
Not too much, like usually a ranch, like a spicy mustard is pretty good, you
know?
And what would make you a real man is if you brought venison sausage and dipped it in the actual blood of the animal.
That would be pretty wicked, yeah.
Wow.
You'd have a serious glow working then.
Peter Vandoren, we're talking fantasy baseball.
Your friend, Rondo Huckbody, real name.
Right?
I think he cleared for it.
Sort of.
Yeah.
Real nickname.
Real nickname.
He says, who were key players on your pro league team?
So we're talking fantasy baseball.
before we get to Rondo's question, it works a lot like fantasy football.
There's just a lot more to keep up on, right?
Yeah, there's definitely
more to
keep up on because there's more players.
Yeah.
But another aspect of it that I do really enjoy with fantasy baseball is that because there are more players, typically the rosters are bigger.
You have a little bit bigger selection of players.
So you may not need to have kind of that record breaking player
on your
team.
like you don't have to have like a paid manning set in the single season touchdown marker, Calvin Johnson, you know, catching the most passes of all time.
And, you know, in fantasy baseball, I mean, sure, having like a Sohei Otani is like a huge asset.
I mean, the guy put up like 50 home, 50 home runs, 59 steals last year.
But, you know, but at the same time, because the rosters are bigger, it maybe is not like, uh, as much of a single deciding factor by having like that player in the middle of a record breaking season.
Yeah,
that's the baseball.
Okay.
And I assume it's like football where the top guys, the guys with the best stats.
are the best are the first to go in a draft.
Does the draft take forever like compared to a fantasy football draft?
Kind of depends on the timer.
I mean, I suppose probably about two hours maybe and like an average 12 team league.
Oh, it's it's about the same.
OK.
So all right.
So like I said, for those who don't play your friend, Rondo's question, who are the key players on your pro league team?
Who did you draft, Pete, that you're excited about?
Well, let's see.
So I so.
You know, I compete in a couple of cash leagues every year.
And one of them I do is actually a keeper league, which allows you to keep three players every season.
OK.
And we've been doing the keeper league for several years now.
This season, I plan on keeping Gunnar Henderson from the Orioles shortstop.
I have Corbin Carroll from the Diamondbacks, an outfielder, as well as Kyle Tucker, who recently got traded at the Cubs last season.
OK.
Does this mean anything to you, Conrad?
Can you vouch that these are good players?
I can vouch that they're good keepers.
Why don't you play fantasy baseball?
Well, I know I actually I did draft a team this year, but I drafted Gary Cole.
So it sucks there.
Oh, yeah, it's kind of a tough break there.
He mentioned that that's like how much does it cost to play fantasy baseball compared to football?
about
the same.
It's however much you want,
you
know, like the keeper league I'm in is the Vladimir Guerrero Invitational.
I
give a shout out to those
guys.
Cox Sammies is one of the team
names.
Watch your language.
Yeah.
What's his name?
Cox Sammies.
One more time.
Cox Sammies.
That's his team name.
I'm not going to tell you about the picture he has as profile.
That's his team name.
That's his team name.
Yeah.
Do you want to help my brother?
I'll just tell this story quick.
He had the Twitter handle at UW Badgers.
When Twitter first came out, my brother Andrew had at UW Badgers.
So obviously, Wisconsin wanted that for their own Twitter account.
And he
said, well, if you don't give it to us, we're going to sue you.
And he said, well, I'm a lawyer.
Bring it on.
And at the end of the day, he graduated from there.
It's his place.
He loves it.
He says, look.
I'll give it to you.
Let's not, whatever.
And they said, oh, great.
Well, what can we do for you?
And he goes, I'll tell you what, like, instead of asking for season tickets, he asked for a signed football from Barry Elvarez and a signed basketball from Bo Ryan.
And they said, yeah, we can make that happen.
So he takes a picture of the two balls and his fantasy football team named that year was special balls.
His son, his son saw it as 11 year old son.
He goes, dad.
You can't do that.
I mean, you know what that means, right?
He had to play dumb because he didn't want his kid to.
But yeah, those are those names, those risqué.
Names are all over fantasy sports, right?
Oh, definitely.
It's very
immature.
It's a very low-brow humor at times, yeah.
Peter Van Dorn is here.
He is part of the WGBW team here.
He does great work regarding sales, and he was just pitching how Civic Media got the Brewers on WI Access.
Yeah, yeah.
me.
I'll tell you more.
Yeah.
Peter at CivicMedia.us.
Very simple.
How did you get started in fantasy baseball, and when?
Was it already kind of in the throes of its popularity?
or were you an early entry?
I would
say it was in the throes of its popularity.
Bear in mind, the sport precedes the internet.
That's how long it's been around.
I want to talk about that, too.
I actually did some research on this.
That
surprised me.
The sport of fantasy baseball, apparently back in 1980, a bunch of writers assembled at a cafe, Lotisserie.
Fran say it was the name of the cafe.
And that's why
it's
history baseball.
Yeah.
It's
crazy.
But who knows?
You know, sometimes the origins are very obscure.
Like I know John Madden took credit for starting fantasy football.
Is that not true?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I watched some kind of NFL pregame.
He talked all about it.
Yeah.
John Madden also took credit for writing all the code for Madden the video game.
So you know, it's kind of full of great guy.
But come on, let's be honest.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right,
so you started what
year was that
about?
Oh, so probably I started probably around like early 2000 like yeah about 2000
so how did that work before the internet how on earth did did fancy baseball or football for that matter happen
people were like literally just you know reading their daily newspaper checking box scores You know they were drafting in person over the phone You know all the scoring was basically just done.
You
know
how to talk
about how they each earlier talked about how each category is like scoring categories.
We're trying to get the most home runs in the league over the course of the season.
Well, for that, I mean, people had just keep track of it manually.
Trust that everybody else in their league.
Well, it's hard to lie about that stuff.
I'm sure stats or stats, but like,
wow, what a that's crazy.
Yeah, it's so crazy.
It's just evolved so much, especially when it comes to like
daily lineups where you can just, you know, kind of assemble the perfect team for just a day and see how they perform.
Yeah.
A lot of people legally bet, you know, do like legal betting on that now.
So
it's crazy.
You can bet on fantasy baseball.
Yeah.
Pete Rose bet on actual baseball.
Right.
And paid the price for it.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah.
Wow.
I have mixed feelings.
We have two.
That's all on the topic.
seems like kind of a jerk, but you can't deny what a phenomenal player
he was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he definitely was.
But for me, like, I think it was the new commissioner came in and he met with Pete Rose, you know, kind of Pete Rose made one last plea to be inducted in the Hall of Fame.
And he kind of was turned down because of his his actions.
Like they said that Pete Rose hadn't changed his lifestyle at all.
He was still, you know, very much a compulsive gambler still in Vegas all the time.
And just right.
You know, it was just kind of that he, uh, hadn't really shown any, I guess remorse with what he'd done.
And that's like, I don't have, I don't have much knowledge, but I feel like if he didn't bet on his team, even if he bet on baseball, that might be with time, you can forgive that.
But if you bet on his own team and affect the outcomes of the game, I have no problem with him not being in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Way off there.
I
think it's definitely, you know, in line.
Yeah.
So your friend Rondo Huckbody says, I just love saying that.
Did you draft any Packers?
Wait a minute.
You know, well, I mean Packers be football,
right?
But the thing with any fantasy sport, I think, is that you really, you know, don't want to.
hold a grudge against anybody.
I mean, for instance, you know, I mentioned I have Kyle Tucker of my fantasy baseball team.
He's a cub.
Well, you know, you really want to be open minded and not just limit yourself to your favorite team or your
favorite
players.
So, um, unfortunately, you know, oftentimes we do play in these leagues in Wisconsin, like we're in, you know, you, you find that people are, uh, paying up a little bit more for, you know, players in the Packers, the Brewers.
So, um,
I'm trying to think of a draft at any Packers.
I think I had Jordan Love in like one league.
Oh, yeah.
It was kind of mixed results.
Yeah.
Had like an okay,
not like
stellar season.
Yeah.
That probably
didn't help things.
Yeah.
It didn't help too much.
What is, what do you prefer?
Do you prefer fantasy baseball over fantasy football?
I do.
Yeah.
I like, I like the challenge of it.
You know,
like
drafting, you know, like just being able to like go after players.
It takes a lot of patience, you know, because I mean.
Baseball is fairly inconsistent at times, you know, and also there are a lot of stretches that go along with it.
You know, that's how you kind of look at it with fantasy football is that, uh, you know, every, every, you know, every Sunday is just like, wham, here's all these results.
Whereas baseball is a little more drawn out.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
So, uh, do you think you can keep up with this Conrad?
Yeah.
Okay.
Every day you got to
update, right?
I mean, it's like, yeah, every day you got to update, you know, um, you know, I, uh,
I follow some fantasy baseball podcasts.
You know, I
also
like CBS sports, one of my favorites.
For football, though, I mean, I listen to like lots of NBC sports, lots of, uh, uh, yes, peon Matthew Berry is a great fantasy columnist for fantasy football.
I have to be honest.
All you can think about right now is you wolfing down venison sausage and listening to podcasts.
This is just what I do.
Yeah.
I like, I like
check my lineup all doing that.
Peter Van Doren is here.
We're talking fantasy baseball.
So, all right, so how are you doing so far?
Or how did you do last year, I should say?
Well, let's start with that.
Let's do a quick break.
We'll come back.
I want to find out just how good you are at fantasy baseball.
We'll do that.
I'm going to ask Peter what he's watching on TV and movies.
So be ready for that.
No fantasy there, buddy.
It's the real thing.
Fiction.
We're going to come right back and close this thing up with our pal, Peter Van Doren.
He's very tall.
Can you dunk?
No,
not quite.
No?
All right.
I can
take credit
for dunking.
Talk about that.
We're coming right back.
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Beautiful day here in Wisconsin.
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We'll have our old pal Tim Sowers.
He is going to literally walk across the street from the Overture Center and join me in the studio.
And we'll talk about some fun shows coming up the Overture.
And then director Jeff Blankenship joins me tomorrow, possibly in studio as well in Madison.
And we might even have a surprise guest.
Lots of fun every time we're in Madison.
And then Wednesday night, I'll just take this opportunity to plug.
There's a political event.
And then we're doing a shortened show.
It's just an hour, but it's going to be all big Lebowski talk.
We're going to celebrate the day of the dude.
and do a Lebowski quiz.
It's gonna be great fun.
So join me Wednesday night as well, although that will not be live.
And a great guest the rest of the week too.
Mary Mack joins me on Thursday to make the popcorn pick of the week.
And Appleton-based comedian Rob Brackenridge will be here in studio.
Rob is always a blast.
And Barbaton Friday night coming up.
All kinds of fun stuff headed your way on Nightlight.
Peter Van Doran is my guest here.
We're talking about fantasy baseball, and he is a big enthusiast and a big guy.
What are you, 6'4"?
About 6'3".
You think he could beat Conrad in an arm wrestle?
We should try that after the show.
What if Pete's arm was like a foot longer than yours?
It probably is.
I
have short arms.
Can we make, can we make like a fundraiser out of this?
Oh, that would be good, yeah.
We'll go for a high spot.
Let's get in on that.
Take a place of better two.
Have you ever seen, I watch Reels sometimes at night when I'm bored, like on Instagram?
Oh
gosh,
yeah.
That clip, I don't know if you guys saw this of Lenny Randall, a pitcher, this is like in the 70s.
I remember him as a player.
A pitcher threw at Lenny Randall.
I didn't hit him because he was still up.
So he went down, just missed his head.
Lenny Randall on the next pitch lays down a bunt to the first base side.
The pitcher goes after the bunt.
Lenny Randall goes out of the baseline and just drills him.
as payback that was baseball in the 70s like when it was just I mean it was insane and obviously both benches erupted and yeah I'm sure they got kicked out but well it's a great clip
you know and the sport has just changed so much too over time it's you know really interesting just even and it actually has an effect on fantasy sports right like well we had several years ago there's often scarcity in fantasy sports with certain positions
and if
you know
A few years back, um, I guess it was, you know, mainly like, uh, middle infielders that were kind of a little bit, uh, you know, of a commodity.
I mean, just that there weren't a lot of really like, uh, top end players kind of in, um, uneven distribution, you know, of players that were going to give you like quality stats and be
start of a
weekend.
day in, day out.
And, you know, with that being said, it's actually shifted, you know, for any number of reason, rules, I mean, different equipment, you know, bigger base paths, you know, so whereas before, you know, like, steels were kind of a commodity, now steels are everywhere.
There's
like, I don't know
how many.
That was always my favorite baseball.
I love teams that used to steal.
Yeah, play aggressively like that.
Pete, have you ever won, not ever, but where do you rank, like, on all the years you've played?
How often do you bring home money?
I was actually just
looking this up.
I would say probably with fantasy sports, I play enough leagues annually that if I break even, that's kind of my goal.
That's not why you're doing it to get rich.
Yeah, exactly.
So typically if I break even, but looking at, like, my...
profile on Yahoo, which is a server I play a lot in my fantasy sports.
I'm actually gold level, I guess.
So sweet.
Since 2001, I've played in over 700 fantasy leagues between football
and
baseball.
Yeah,
like a 60% winning percentage.
Dude, it's too bad you're married.
You would get so many chicks for that information, right?
Is that a good place?
Is that a good place to meet girls playing fantasy sports?
It's
social.
It's
just not quite that kind of social.
You know, the years I've played fantasy football and I've actually tried, it is really fun.
Sometimes though, when you're busy, that's like the first thing you kick loose.
You know, it's like a side hobby, but...
How do you, how do you like your chances this year?
Well, I mean, I think it's going to be, you know, I think it's going to be a good season.
I think that there's a lot of players that are fairly straightforward to assess.
Um, one thing that gets kind of thrown around every now and then with fantasy sports are these, these boomer bus type players where they give either make or break you.
And I don't know that there's quite as many of those being drafted early this season in fantasy baseballs or having years past.
Um, one example of a player that's boomer bust, uh, Jacob to Grom.
I mean, if you're familiar with the pitcher, just
signed with crazy hair, right?
Yeah.
He
spent all those years with the mats.
Yeah.
The
guy's been injured so often, you know, that has been two or three seasons since he put together a complete season, but he's been like, uh, just, you know,
Lights out when he's been on the mound, but it's just like is this guy gonna stay healthy So for that reason if you're drafting him early this year, he's gonna be real boomer boss like he's a guy like
make it or break it for you This has been fun.
I gotta read a text comment and if I have time I'm gonna ask you one more question So Craig connect checks in on this dream is as Pete.
I thought Mickey 17 was fun I didn't realize he was Robert Pattinson until the credits rolled Wow
He said, I found it odd that there was only one species on that planet.
Not the greatest thing I've ever seen, but I enjoyed it.
Cool concept.
I agree it was a cool concept Craig, and I didn't hate it.
It was two hours on a Saturday afternoon, sitting in a movie theater with my wife.
What could, what could be better, right?
Cool.
Pete, you love your wife, right?
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
She keep her.
Am I kid?
I guess
six year old, he's busy.
All right, we have about, Conrad, how much time do we have?
Like a minute?
Yeah.
Less.
Uh, Rondo says, Hey Pete, what do you think?
What do you look forward to in the future of fantasy baseball?
You got 30 seconds.
Answer your buddy's question.
That's great.
I look forward to the future of fantasy baseball.
I would say just the longevity of it.
I mean, that's what makes baseball great.
It's my lovable.
It's not going anywhere.
It's just that you, yes, not going anywhere.
It's a rich history.
I think that's just going to keep continuing.
Pete, keep up.
the great work.
You do great stuff here at WGBW.
Thanks, man.
It's great to know you, and thank you for pitching the segment.
I love it, and it's fun to get to know you more and learn more about fancy baseball.
Thanks so much for having me.
Anytime, bud.
I'd like to thank all my guests, Peter Van Doren, Dan Davies, who is here in person.
Thank you for all your texts and calls.
Always fun here on night.
We'll be back to do it all again tomorrow night on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
Good night, Wisconsin.
I'll sing it to you.
