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Barr Band Friday Night & The Badgers(Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Mar 7, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who appreciates a nice hot meal at a fair price.
Pete Chwaba.
Welcome Wisconsin.
Happy Friday everybody.
It is six o'clock.
Are you home yet?
Are you in traffic?
What are you doing?
Either way, great to have you.
Hope we can make your drive a little easier or your transition into your evening a little nicer after a long day of dealing with work, traffic, politics, whatever it is, folks.
Hopefully you've been listening to Civic Media all day and a voice of reason.
And now you just need a way to transition into the rest of your evening.
It is Friday.
That's exciting.
Who doesn't love a Friday?
We're gonna do this, right?
We got a great Friday show for you guys tonight.
I've asked Mike Clemens to be on the show.
Terry Barr, it's a bar band Friday night, so we have two great guests.
We've got a great question tonight.
Conrad is here.
He decided to stop by.
Good to see you, Conrad.
Yeah, it's more of a stop by every night.
Just checking in for a couple hours.
Just checking in on you and making sure you're doing well.
Appreciate that appreciate that Yeah, lots of fun stuff.
I did not have a good drive in tonight.
I this is weird usually The last couple times I've talked about coming into work on 41 involve me and someone either being a jerk or whatever But today I had two cars in front of me and it was like a pissing match.
They wouldn't they were talking to each other I don't know if they were friends or there was some incident before I got stuck behind them, but these two clowns
Took both lanes and they were drawn at each other.
I honestly I was ready to call the cops.
I thought someone's gonna Do a pit move here or run the other one off the road People lose their minds when they're in their cars It's like nobody I mean, I know people lose their tempers when they don't have a weapon But that's when people are scared most people want nothing to do with a fight But boy you get behind the wheel of a car
Or you have a gun, you have some type of weapon that makes you feel more masculine, I guess, or accelerates your anger and it's all bets are off.
It's pretty scary stuff.
But I was stuck behind them for like 15 minutes and they would not leave each other alone.
And then finally around O'Connell, the truck, there was a pickup truck and like a little BMW and the pickup truck made a quick move and got off, probably trying to avoid the other guy.
And he did this crazy maneuver and followed the pickup truck.
So I don't know what happened.
If there is foul play somewhere in O'Connell tonight, I hope I don't get called as a witness, but yeah, people act, they lose their minds when they're in their cars for some reason.
And here I am talking about it.
I was ticked off too, but man, I'm not gonna get in the, I'm not gonna do that with a car.
I've told you, whoa, I just went through puberty there.
You hear
that?
Speaking of masculinity.
I told you my story, right?
When I was late for that gig that one time on 41.
What was, yeah, I don't think so.
I'm gonna have to save that for another,
I
mean, a fist fight on the freeway,
on the highway,
bleeding out
of a
kind of
blood
on my shirt and I had bloody
knuckles
and it was awful.
But I wanted no part of it, the guy, but I was like, all right, either getting a high speed chase with this guy and we all die or we get out here and we just go at it and it's over.
And I didn't want either.
But man, I would be the first guy to chicken out.
Some type of car duel Plus I got a hybrid I'm not gonna win that
You know what I did today that was pretty dumb
What's that?
I've only done it once before and it was when I live in Milwaukee and I walked out of the house without a without my keys on me and the door locks shut the door behind you and That happens in Milwaukee though, you know three years ago And it's so embarrassing having to call your landlord having haven't come down.
Well today it happened again
So is this
a
regular occurrence like
I was in a rush to get out.
I was like, I need to get to the gym.
I need to get my workout done so I can come back do some work.
I have my phone.
I have my wallet digging in my pockets for like five minutes, looking around my car, had a call and they wouldn't answer right away.
Now, how quickly did you hear back from him?
Like, how were you?
Well, it was about I was.
I had my garage open.
I was just sitting on my car, just waiting for 15 minutes.
And it's just so embarrassing when they come around.
It's like, I forgot your keys inside, did you?
I don't suppose you got your ID on you either, right?
Listen, I'm not that bright.
You don't have to beat me up over.
I do that all the time.
Like there was a point about two years ago within the time span of a month.
My son was living at home.
My daughter was still at home.
There were three instances of our keys being locked in various cars.
And I have to call USAA and I have to say, look, yes, it's me again.
Please send someone, you know, oh, it's, it is embarrassing, but look, you know.
You gotta get in.
What are you gonna do?
Yeah.
It made it worse that I didn't, my car keys is attached to my house keys too, so.
So you're dead in the water.
You're
not going anywhere.
I couldn't go to the gym, come back, and then call.
You could have done push-ups next
to your
car and started the workout.
Yeah, I guess so.
That's thinking
right there.
Oh, man, that's hilarious.
That's a great way to start the show with Conrad and Pete's Tom Fullery.
Really fun show, though, tonight.
We got Mike Clemens here, folks, at 6.35.
Mike's got a lot to report on.
Got some Badgers, some Marquettes, some Packers.
Lots of stuff going on in the world of sports, and Mike is the Civic Media Sports Authority, so he will fill us in at 635.
Sure, Mike will go off on one of those awesome Clemens tangents, too.
Sometimes he just starts with something, and it's like, I would talk to you about that for 20 minutes, Mike, if we didn't have sports to get to, because he's an interesting guy.
He loves movies, he loves art, he loves reading, all that kind of stuff.
So, Mike will be here at 635.
It'll be entertaining either way.
Yes, I will
and then ladies and gentlemen, it is a bar band Friday night are our nightlight one of our besties of all time Terry bar will be here bringing new music and sparkling conversations She's so much fun to talk to and she's gonna kind of tell us about what's going on around the state too musically There might be a few things you guys want to catch if you're in the mood for some music barband Friday night and
Here's
a weird thing
You know what I'm gonna hold never mind.
I didn't say that Conrad Okay, I listen we've been making fun of Adrienne Brody since
that Oscar speech.
Yeah,
well deserved But I'm I Don't know we'll get into it, but I think right now Conrad let's pivot it's time for our question of the night
Let's talk about the question.
Okay question question question
Question.
Question.
Here, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Question.
Questions.
Well, it is international, maybe national, pancake day, flapjack day.
I'm sorry.
It's international flapjack day.
Tonight's question, ladies and gentlemen, everybody loves pancakes.
How do you like your pancakes?
Saturday morning, that was a big pancake day in our house.
So Friday night is the perfect time to ask the question, how do you like your pancakes?
I will go first.
I have two answers to this question.
When I was a kid, I liked butter, pure maple syrup, and some cinnamon sugar sprinkled on top.
Now, I still like cinnamon sugar, but I like my wife makes these protein pancakes with walnuts.
Little bits of bacon and blueberry all packed into the pancake and they are dynamite Little maple syrup some cinnamon sugar sprinkled on top Those are my favorite pancakes.
I could I could easily just eat regular pancakes too though.
I love
them.
Okay, I Really enjoyed chocolate chip pancakes with peanut butter and syrup on it You told me that recently.
Well, you told me it was actually that I liked it with waffles peanut butter
And waffles and syrup.
Yeah, that's right, okay.
But I like it on pancakes, too.
Same thing, a pancake and a waffle.
I mean, right?
Peanut butter is my favorite topping for any, like, breakfast thing.
Yeah,
so
we've learned.
Okay, that works.
Ladies and gentlemen, the phone lines are open 855-752-484-2855-75 civic.
As always, you can chime in and let us know what's going on in your life, what you think of what we're talking about.
Chime in.
Be part of the show.
And tell us how you like your pancakes.
That's a great question heading into the weekend.
All right, here's what I was going to say.
I didn't know if I wanted to tease this or what, but Adrian Brody has been pissing me off all week.
First, there was that speech.
It was completely unhinged.
Missed the Oscars record by one second, as I understand it.
The guy calls me today.
He tracks me down.
I'm an easy guy to find.
I don't hide from anybody.
But Adrian Brody found me.
got my number and called me and kind of gave me the business over the phone.
He didn't like what we were what we've been doing.
We didn't do it last night, but like, you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we had a little fun saying he's still talking.
We play parts of his speech.
Yeah.
Great actor.
Terrible monologist.
Actually, it's not even a joke.
I think he's still going today.
I think it might go to Sunday whole week speech
Well, he's got the record then for sure But I'm gonna play that phone call in the next segment.
It's just Adrian Brody called me up.
I took the call I didn't recognize the number, but I took it I knew it wasn't a telemarketer But I didn't know it was Adrian Brody.
It didn't say potential spam on it
No, the speech was spam
And normally, look, I'd be excited.
Like, I don't really get starstruck.
I've been around celebrities in my life.
Some of them I really respect.
Some of them I think are great.
Others couldn't care less.
But I would take a call from Adrian Brody.
He's a two-time Oscar winner, and he's a great actor.
He really is.
And when he started in the business, there were comparisons to Robert De Niro, which, to be honest, are warranted.
He's that good of an actor.
He just sucks at the acceptance speech.
That's where he goes off the rails.
And, you know, he didn't like, but either way, actors are sensitive.
He did not like what we did this week on Nightlight.
So he called me.
I'm going to play that.
I'm going to play that clip after the break.
But in the meantime, how do you like your pancakes, folks?
Or should I say flapjacks?
I like pink.
I say pink.
I think most people say pancakes.
I know McDonald's for a while on their commercials is saying you get two sausage links, two griddle cakes, griddle cakes.
That's just kind of weird.
Flapjacks I could go for.
I like flapjacks.
I like pancakes.
So let us know what your favorite pancakes are.
That's just something we have to get to the bottom of as listeners.
So what am I supposed to cut to this Conrad?
It's there if you wanted to.
All right, this is breaking news, I guess.
Some breaking news in the NFL Conrad reports.
Geno Smith got traded to the Raiders
for a third round pick.
That's right, folks.
A player you don't care at all about went to a team that suck.
You know what that's breaking news Conrad?
If he shows up here at WGBW.
Well, it's it's it's like crazy because the Seahawks are just unloading every right now and sort of the Jaguars.
I saw a tweet today that said you.
two are released by the Jaguars.
I love
to get traded by the Jaguars.
All right.
We're going to play my conversation with Adrian Brody coming up next.
It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Madison says, hi, Pete and Conrad.
When I was in Door County, there was a restaurant that had granola pancakes.
Oh, I've heard of those.
They were really good with butter and syrup.
There you go.
Yeah, a little crunch in your pancake.
That never hurt anybody.
That's great stuff.
Brian from Milwaukee says, whole wheat pancakes with sugar-free applesauce, cinnamon, and walnuts.
I'm on the dash diet, need to eat healthy.
Wow.
It's funny that doesn't sound healthy.
It sounds delicious Honestly, but I guess it's all healthy.
Have you ever had buckwheat pancakes?
Buckwheat.
I think they're like wheat.
They're like a real hard like grind it up.
It's like a Remember stone wash jeans Probably not this is like a some of the listeners know what I'm talking about This is like a stone washed pancakes pancake.
It's like ground up.
It's like kind of I don't know I like buckwheats, but that sounds kind of like what you're saying here,
Brian
That's what the pancakes look like is stone wash.
Well, I'm looking at a picture right now.
The idea behind a stone washed denim is you beat it up with stones.
That's kind of how the pancake like a buckwheat pancake is like inside.
It's like real.
I know it's got an interesting texture to it.
My dad gave him to us when we were younger.
We hated him, but I like him now.
But those are great texts.
There are no wrong ways to eat a pancake, folks.
So please let us know what your favorite, how you like your pancakes.
That's what we're going for here.
I saw this.
This was really strange.
I don't know what, this is what we get, I guess, for after the last election.
There have been a lot of attacks.
Remember the guy who said conception starts at erection?
Oh, yeah.
A little irrational.
But here's a guy I saw this on a friend of mine's Facebook feed.
This is from Heartland Signal.
Michigan Republican Josh Shriver proposes total porn ban.
If you're a guy proposing a total porn ban, you know what that tells me about that guy?
What's that?
He watches a lot of porn.
He's trying to get rid of it.
He can't stop.
And we're all his hostages.
That guy's getting primaried really fast.
I don't know what the big deal is.
He called it.
Shriver made the announcement on X, of course, on Wednesday, calling pornography a scourge.
Read a Bible passage before you watch it.
I don't know.
Balance your life out a little bit.
You don't have to just dive head first into whatever.
It's just, God, leave people alone, will you?
Okay, so here's what, all right.
This is a weird thing I like I said earlier before the break folks We have I've been poking a little fun at Adrian Brody all week because he gave a very long speech at the Oscars didn't really go anywhere kind of me entered he won the Oscar second time he's a best Oscar winner and he's like 49 or 50 like that's incredible.
He's a great actor, but his speech was ridiculous Get me entered it didn't go anywhere.
He kind of said a lot of different things
and he missed the record for Oscar speeches by one second.
I think they said it went on for six minutes.
And my joke was that just like the movie The Brutalist, his speech needed an intermission.
It was not a good speech.
Well, we had fun with that on the show.
Conrad played a couple clips of him still talking.
Today, he tracks me down, he finds me, he calls me on the telephone, and we had a little conversation and I...
Suspected something was up.
I saw the number coming in.
I recorded the call and we're gonna play that for you right now.
This is me and Adrienne Brody.
I Recorded my ringtone too.
Hello.
Yeah, is this Pete Schwabba?
Yeah, who's calling?
It's Adrienne Brody chief.
Or you can talk about me about my accepted speech.
How did you get this number?
I could get to anyone.
You see how broad my shoulders are.
Yeah, but what's that got to do with it?
Yeah, I know you think you're hot
with your little radio show, but people love my speech.
I'm sure they did.
I'm surprised you're not still giving it, to be honest.
Yeah, I want an apology, and I want it right now.
Dude, I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish here, but most people thought your speech sucked.
It was meandering.
It went on forever.
I'm sorry, but it was almost as long as the brutalists for God's sakes.
Aw, yeah, I know a lot of people didn't like my speech.
You think I don't know that?
You know, I'm need phone calls.
I thought to make... Yeah, no one understands
me.
Uh, um...
Yeah.
Hey, Adrian, come on man, relax.
It's cool.
Look, you got two Oscars.
Why would you care what anyone thinks about your speech or feel the need to talk for that amount of time and not really say anything?
Come on,
man.
Oh, you know what?
Here I am opening up to you and you take another shot at me.
Have you seen my shoulders?
Yeah, but
I mean... Have you seen?
My shoulders.
Yeah, man.
I saw a lot more of you than that in The Brutalist, which was totally unnecessary, by the way.
Look, dude, I- Yeah, look, it's cool, Schwab.
You know, I'll do anything for a role, but yeah, people love my shoulders.
Hang on a second.
R.B.
Weinstein's calling from prison and make sure I'm treating his ex-wife well.
You believe that guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, no hard feelings, chief dick.
And then he was gone.
He was out of my life.
It was just the weirdest thing.
He just like hung up so quickly.
I'm so glad I recorded that.
Yeah, I'll have to.
I gotta come clean.
Conrad added the ring as a sound effect.
That's not my real cell phone ring.
Wait, I don't know what you're talking about.
But he was serious and apparently he's not just going after people, everybody.
He's not gonna call everybody who didn't like his speech.
He's just going after people in media that have radio shows or podcasts or talk on TV.
He's not happy about it and whatever, you know.
Look, the guy's earned some street credit.
He's got two Oscars.
Don't think you needed to call me some of the names.
He did But whatever it was cool to talk to Adrienne Brody at the end of the day, you know, I'm a filmmaker Yeah, I got a couple scripts in the in the works.
Maybe we can work something out I'll take I'll take back what I said if he agrees to be in one of my movies
I think that's fair.
You could name the movie after what he insulted you cheese cheese penis I
Didn't know if we could actually say that word you know what I emailed
Todd, let's see if we can say that.
Let me see what he said.
I don't know if he got back to me or not.
No, he did not.
All right, so, oh, wait a minute, he did.
I think we made the right decision.
That's all I'm gonna say.
That's such a harmless word, though.
Come on.
That's not even on George Carlin's seven words you can't say on TV.
Conrad also broke a story here, folks.
Geno Smith got traded to the Raiders.
That sucks for him.
But we should ask Mike about that.
I mean, you know, we'll cover all things sports with Mike coming up after the news always funny have Mike on the show and I want to ask Mike.
I want to know where Mike is staying for the draft.
Yeah,
I mean he's media.
I'm sure they They must have hotel rooms booked for media But I know he's got kind of a sweetheart deal here in Green Bay.
So yeah, I mean taking care of
the hotels are but I mean even the ones in Milwaukee are booked up.
Yeah, so we got a shower here
Mike has like a couch one of those.
Yeah.
What do you call those floatable beds or inflatable beds?
Air mattresses.
Air mattresses.
That's it.
Thank you very much.
Mike Clemens after the news folks.
It's a bar ban Friday night.
Terry bark coming up at seven thirty five.
Great to have you with me on this Friday night edition of nightlight on the civic media radio network.
You always have some disappointments in the year.
I think for me, the thing that's been on my mind I think as we've concluded this season is we need to continue to ramp up our sense of urgency.
These opportunities don't come, you know, the life of a player in the national football league is not very long.
We've got a bunch of good guys in that locker room.
We've got a bunch of talented guys in that locker room.
And yeah, I think it's time that we start competing for championships, right?
There you go.
That's Packers' Gym, Brian Gutekinst.
What do you think about that, Conrad?
I think he's correct.
It is time to compete.
It is time to compete.
That's kind of a saying like we gave it our all out there.
I mean,
I mean the Raiders can't say that.
Well, they can now that they've got your boy Gino Smith.
The guy we really should be asking about all this is Civic Media Sports Authority, Mike Clemens.
Man, if only he were on the show tonight.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
We've got Mike on the phone.
Oh, this is great.
Hey, buddy.
How are you?
I'm good, you know.
what brian goodkins is saying is uh... yeah okay you people remind me every day like a broken record i've got the youngest roster in the NFL fine i'm here to take to the locker room you could be here now year year and a half two years it's time okay we're in what they call the super bowl window and i need you guys to pick it up and pick it up a step and when they bring in guys like josh jacob's who you know about halfway through the season he's even got
the second and third-year players coming up to him and saying, man, I mean, and Josh is like, yeah, dudes, this is what it takes.
This is how hard you have to work at this head practice, after practice, in the weight room at 6.30 every each morning.
So that's what's good against this.
He's going to the whip a little bit, right?
Right.
Yeah, as he should.
I mean, especially, well, you know what, let's hold on.
I want to ask you stuff about the draft, Mike, but let's get to some other stuff.
Do you have a place to stay, first of all?
for the draft, Mike, you taking care of?
I've got an option or two, but it's going to be tight.
And first of all, I kind of have to wait for what, you know, the Packers going to say, but it's going to be, it's going to be, I still haven't heard about if the cruise ships are actually pulling up into Green Bay for extra, extra room for people.
You know, we'll see.
You could do worse.
Disney cruise ship right out here in the Fox River.
I think you could do the water slide and then go to work.
Well, that's like the old high school thing.
You're going to take your date down to see, you know, the snipes or something like that.
Hey, let's go down to the Fox River Valley and go look at the cruise
ships.
You lost me, Mike.
I was never that devious.
I'm kidding, obviously.
I just
heard about it.
How do you like your pancakes, Mike?
That's our question of the night.
That's plain buttermilk with the you know melted butter and warmed up syrup and there's a place.
Oh, you know what you reminded me?
There's a thing in Racine County that's the River Bend Nature Center and they do a fundraiser like it would probably be this weekend every Sunday and They and you go to this little place.
It's off of the creek that leads into Lake Michigan in Racine County and They have a bunch of maple trees
So the sap has come out of the trees, and they've got people out there actually that melt it down, takes 40 gallons of sap to make one gallon of syrup.
How about that?
And they make the syrup right there, and they serve it over the pancakes.
Wow.
That's the way I like mine, man.
I'm going to have pancakes tomorrow.
I'll just talk about pancakes.
It is truly making me crazy tonight.
I'm doing this keto thing, and it's brutal.
So all right, Mike, so we've got a lot to get to.
Can I just, before we start out, were you at the combine?
Yes, all week.
This is such a fun time if you're an NFL fan, especially if your team has not been very good like mine hasn't over the last few years.
I love the combine.
I love the free agency, which starts Monday and then the draft.
This is like the triumvirate of the NFL offseason.
It's so much fun.
Are there any big stories that you stumbled onto with the combine or that you found with what you do?
Some great
people?
Yeah, you know, there's cynical people like maybe on social media that call it the underworld Olympics and it's hyped and blah, blah, blah.
If you're a 22 year old.
young man and you have been working for ten twelve years for this moment you're trying to get into the damn NFL and you have really worked hard in lifting weights and in running and jogging and playing four years of college football and trying to stand out and now hopefully that you know you get picked for the dance and you get into the NFL and get a job this coming summer and get on a team and so it means everything to these guys
And while the combine is really something to do the measurables, you know, your height, your weight, your wingspan, your hands, and how high can you jump in your 40-time, your bench press, and all that.
Medicals,
yeah.
Perhaps the most important thing, if you're Brian Goodekins and his scouting staff is the first chance to really meet face-to-face with some of these kids.
And Kevin Savansky, the head coach of the Browns, said it's sort of like speed dating, because you get 20 minutes with the kids.
But think about this.
Think it's like you were going to hire someone to read the news on your show, and tonight you were going to interview 12 candidates in 20-minute interviews.
I mean, how drained are you going to be?
That's what it's like for those teams.
That's a lot of work.
and it's a long day to any you know used to be a little bit more where you get up around seven or eight uh... that uh... that the players have to get their first mri in the morning at seven a.m.
they got to go to this doctor they got to go across the street and do this and they got to do that and and then they got to have a you know interview with the team and they get they got to run that night uh... they have done by five or six and then you know the coaches and the players might hurt not the players but uh... you know that the teams
might go out for a beer or two or three, and at a stake at St.
Hummel's.
Well, Goodell, who turns everything into a TV show, has now shifted that to prime time.
So you see these people walking out of the Lucas Oil Stadium at 9-9-30, or the people have to cover it like Rich Eisen or Stacey Dale, a reporter, and you know, getting to know these folks, and they've got to be back there at eight o'clock in the morning, you know, after being on the air for 12 hours.
it's kind of a grind but you know it's the NFL it's not exactly you know construction work on the road but that that's what the atmosphere is like between this huge convention center and lucas oil stadium so you know i'm sure one of the things that you've been reading about are talking about is wide receiver if christian lotton you know and we we've sat down with good occasion to talk to him for an hour closed door to conference room that they kind of set aside for those of us that cover the team we came down from wisconsin
uh... christian Watson torn ACL last game of the regular season against the Bears what's the story there the swelling went down he's had the surgery he's making progress but you know you can't count on him to maybe november thanksgiving or so Romeo Dobbs wide receiver twice he had concussions even when he started wearing the guardian cap of the extra padding on the helmet in games and at practice
Is he concussion prone?
No, we don't think he is.
They've examined that, they don't.
And then, Jaden Reed, you know, the great receiver you've got going into his third year, number 11, not only a great receiver and an H-back and, you know, jet sweeps and punt returner, but I told you after the Eagles game, there he was with his arm in a sling all jacked up.
He had a severe dislocated shoulder that required surgery.
So, uh, Goody said, yeah, he's probably going to be, you know, limited during OTAs and minicamp, and hopefully he'll be ready for training camp.
So that's what you say.
You got to bring in somebody.
And then you got Josh Jacobs, the running back, coming to us at Super Bowl, doing interviews with us and saying, um, Jordan Love needs a number one.
He needs a more experienced receiver out there.
So would it be Devonte Adams who got cut by the, by the Jets this week?
Eh, maybe.
or DK Metcalf, right?
The big dude from the Seahawks.
Six foot four, 235 pounds.
He doesn't have the best numbers sometimes when it comes to yardage and first downs, but he's certainly a threat.
And I got it they have to look out for.
So John Schneider, the GM of the Seahawks, now John, you know, it's from Depeer.
He grew up in Green Bay.
Oh, wow.
He was on the Ron Wolfe and Ted Thompson's staff.
Matter of fact, when Ted said, hey, we're getting rid of Brett, you know, he's the one that put together the trade with the Jets.
So he's been the GM of the Seahawks.
And he was on the radio yesterday and was asked, can he confirm the DK Metcalf, one of their stud receivers, once out of Seattle?
Let's play that
count.
You know, obviously DJs or DK has requested a trade and
We are you know entertaining that we are talking to a ton of teams taking offers seeing what that looks like and Yeah, here we go.
I mean, you know, you know, you always have to do that the thing they understand here is that you know our responsibility to you know, Jody Allen, you know the the 12s You know first and foremost is doing what's absolutely best for the organization
And then B was best for the player.
Hopefully, you know, both those things merge and it's an ideal situation.
Sometimes it happens.
Sometimes it doesn't.
Hopefully in this situation, it does.
That's interesting, Mike.
What do you think if the Packers wanted to do that?
I was hearing today earlier on Sports Radio, a first and a third they might want for him.
That seems
high.
I don't see good kids giving up that much.
Right.
This guy.
I just, I just don't.
i don't know he would much rather get uh... i'll listen i'll use a second round pick and get a good receiver come out of this draft right and and you know uh... i'd much rather pay a guy for the next four years rookie contract money then you know dk metcalfe money you know or devante atoms money as good as the adams is and things that they could they could bring to the team now
John Schneider said that, you know, DK Metcalf is a good guy, a good player.
This is just business, not a personal.
Hey, we may have to bring him back, but they just had to release Tyler Lockett, Speedy Tyler Lockett, because he's kind of an end of his run, and he's a salary cap hit.
And so Schneider's got to make some tough decisions, so they were going to have this
Listen, we're going to release Tyler Lockett, but we want to thank him.
He's been so great to the team and the organization was there for Super Bowls and community and all that stuff.
And DK Metcalf agents are leaking to the athletic and ESPN.
Hey, we want to trade.
We want out of Seattle.
We don't want to be a part of a rebuild, which kind of spoiled, you know, took away the spotlight in the Seattle area.
And so John Schneider was asked about with Metcalf agents calling the media,
while the Seahawks released veteran wide receiver Tyler Lockett.
Yeah, probably not intentional, but very disappointed in the timing.
You know, we wanted this to be a very special day.
We wanted it to be, you know, Tyler Lockett day.
We've had Cap casually, very famous, extremely important legends that have been, that have been, you know, Cap casually individuals that we, you know, probably could have handled a little bit different in the past.
So we wanted them to
Handle Tyler situation as classy as we possibly could so yeah, you know, I was we all we all were very excited for you know to to have this Really nice day for Tyler to celebrate Tyler and Yeah, I'd be lining if I you know, I felt bad for Tyler, you know, you know the TVs You know all about DK instead of instead of Tyler Lockett
Interesting
Mike, you said before the Packers needed true number one and you said DK McCaff didn't have great numbers.
I know he's an athletic, he's a phenomenal athlete.
Is he a true number one?
Is he just not had a quarterback to throw to him?
That's part of the situation too.
That's what he's looking for.
You know, that's what his agent is putting out there too.
He wants to go to a team that's got a shot to win it all and somebody can throw the ball to him.
uh... whether or not he could and i'll hook up with you know rustle wilson if rustle ends up with i don't know the raiders or something like that but that's one thing he's looking for here's what i can tell you while i don't know exactly what's going to be on goodie's mind and what he thinks of these guys or maybe there's some you know just uh... a guy just like you know they were mckinney you know they beat the sick look at the two free agency brought in me you didn't really know that much about they were mckinney from the giants last year
but look what he did once he got to green bay in that system right we didn't know about josh jacob's because he was burned up out there with the raiders but wow i mean for him to take over and to fill the shoes of erin jones pretty amazing so at the end of the day those two guys know they came in and perform they became a locker room leaders the one thing that i i know for sure in a very brief conversation i had the hallway with goody
It means everything still to this guy.
I do not want to and listen Think about this you're a stool duck was pretty good corner You brought him in and he was performing for you, but he starts lipping off about Joe Berry in the defense of coordinator and stuff and what happens he gets traded,
right?
Alexander you run out there on the field, you know during the calling toss against Carolina and you there's some other things what happens?
They sit your butt down at the Spenya
Or
your Romeo Dobbs, you decide you're having a little breakdown.
You don't come to practice a day and you don't explain what's going on.
We're going to suspend you.
You know, he's not interested in any drama.
I never get tired of the phrase, lipping off either, by the way.
We'll have more.
Is that an attractive guy to sign for Green Bay right now?
I don't think so.
We have to do a very quick break and we'll be back more with our friend, Mike Clemens, right after this.
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Answers our question of the night.
She says buckwheat is really good for you.
I forget why I keep trying to get into it.
I did some research on this, Annie.
And in the second hour, I'm going to tell you everything you ever wanted to know about buckwheat because of your text.
So thank you for that right now.
We've got a few more things we need to get to with our friend Mike Clemens.
He's the Civic Media Sports Authority and always fun to talk to on Nightlight.
Mike, before we pivot to women's hockey and then some basketball, let's finish up with the NFL.
The Packers, Mason Crosby retired today, is that right?
Yeah, you know, the free agency starts next week.
and the packers first thing they're doing when they get back from combine and they've sort of got some prices out there what the market could be looking for they resign is a mcduffey's done a really nice job as a backup uh... linebacker signed into a two-year deal and the next day brennan mcmanus the guy that they brought in as a kicker uh... last year and did so well assigned him to a three-year deal and then low and behold the next day
it's an outfit mason crosby decided to retire as a packer so mason came in today signed a one-day contract and they held a press conference this afternoon and you know he played for sixteen years for the packers
you know we
talk a lot about the run at quarterback between farve and rogers but how about the run between ryan longwell and mason crosby back-to-back great kickers like that and mason was that this afternoon her press conference he held at lamblefield was
It was every time he thought he might have been caught after six years.
He kind of he kind of he got into a slump.
He's missing some P.A.T.
He's missing some field goals.
And he thought he might get cut after about six years in Green Bay.
In the end of the 2012 season, you asked about if I ever thought I was going to get cut.
I definitely did at the end of that season.
And Charles Woodson came up to me late in the year and he was just like, dude, like are you trying to make kicks?
And I was like.
Well, yeah.
He's like, he's like, stop it.
And I was like, wait, what?
And he's like, don't try to make the like, just be you do your job, right?
Like do the process.
And so I've told this story a bunch because they like, it was like such a simple thing that like kind of got me out of the slump.
You know, it's like, that was the moment.
And then I kind of finished the year, you know, making some kicks, made it like a 48 yarder at the end of the season in Lambo.
And it was just like, that was what I needed.
Wow.
That's good.
I like almost any time Charles Woodson talks.
He says something.
It's kind of cool.
He's amazing.
I had to talk to him at Super Bowl as well.
He's hearing that guy.
He didn't say much, but when he did say something, man, it was a thousand pounds.
Yeah, well said.
Last NFL question, Mike.
Do you expect the Packers to make a big swing in free agency or just plug some holes?
What do you think they're thinking?
Well, you know, they...
always surprised me somehow some way every year it doesn't seem like it that strong of a class but i think there's guys that out there that can help them even at wide receiver at corner uh... but i think they also need to address offense of line
and the
reason i think that is that they did they had the the longest run of the starting five offense of linemen until what until elton jenkins got drilled in the shoulder
by the eagles linebacker no one smith and i swear i got to be i think vixangio said those guys it's the playoffs now they're not going to call it what when we have a play if if you if you have to cover a guy anymore hit somebody every play just hit somebody and he drills elton jenkin and who has a huge next-dingers arm goes completely limp and they didn't have anybody replace they put in this rookie travis glover who you know had three penalties to holding calls
and then they try to put in a backup tackle at left guard kadeem telfer and that changed that changed the packers offense and you know the game that they have a losing your season to the eagles who who went on against that tough defensive line to give trouble to the chief so i think they need to pick up uh... another veteran uh... line off at the line especially if they lose their center josh mires in free agency could he might get an offer that could be just we talked about last week walk away money
Like if Josh Myers just gets a ridiculous offer for five years and, you know, 30, 40 million dollars or something like that, we have to have our walk away money and a plan B. So that's what I think that they should do is get another veteran offensive line in the back up there.
Yeah.
Hey, Mike, can we keep you?
I want to talk some hoops with you, but I want to hit on women's hockey first before the news.
Can you stick around for a few minutes after the news?
All right, fantastic.
I'm going to go make some pad kicks.
I'll be right back.
Let's talk about this women's hockey team.
We've got a couple of minutes before the news.
Number one, they beat Duluth today, I think.
I had no idea.
I'm really behind in my college sports right
now.
No, the Wisconsin women's Badgers hockey team is ranked number one now.
Incredible.
Number one.
and they did when we were in winning games last weekend against the midget eleven to nothing at the hockey game so today they were a cup against number six dilute minnesota dilute they were hosting the game and uh... women from madison days the skated with three-to-one win today casey o'brien scorer eighty-fifth goal of the season eighty goals in the season first female player to do that in college hockey really is twenty eighteen their goalie ever mcdonald's pretty good twenty two saves
for her 32nd one of the year.
So now they advance to the finals on Sunday in Duluth of this WCHA final face-off tournament that they have, you know, for championship hockey for women's hockey.
So that's Mark Johnson for the Miracle on Ice team, you know, head coach of that program.
He was named coach of the year at a banquet they had at this thing the other night.
Really?
And so why were they playing it in the afternoon on a Friday?
They just don't want to compete with the basketball or was that just the way the chips fell?
No, it's a tournament.
So after that came another team and they had some, I think one last night.
You know, there's a grid going on.
And because Wisconsin was like the number one seed, now they advance to the finals and they're waiting to find out who they're going to play on Sunday for the championship of this tournament.
Fantastic.
All right.
Cook, what do you do?
What do you bake, flapjacks?
I don't know.
Make your pancakes, Mike, and we'll be right back and talk some hoops.
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Welcome to hour number two of this Friday night edition of nightlight.
I hate weekends.
I like being here and talking.
That's what I do, folks.
It's so much fun and it's great, great, great when you guys participate.
So our question of the night is how do you like your pancakes?
It's National Flapjack Day, so fire away and let me know how you like to eat them.
Terry Barr is coming up at 735.
It is a bar band.
Friday night, she'll bring new music and sparkling conversation, as she always does, one of our Nightlight Besties, and talking to another pal of ours right now about sports.
Mike Clemens joins us, taking a break between the Combine and Free Agency.
Mike, are you at home tonight, actually?
Getting a night at home?
I am, because, you
know, because I got a game tomorrow night.
It's a buck's host and the magic.
But, you know, you're talking about pancakes.
Did you know for three years...
When I was 16, I got a job at a brand new international house of pancakes.
And I got a job as a cook.
And so that got me through the start of college.
It was a good job.
I had a great manager, a pretty good owner.
And they had a whole system, like they would train you at
16
years old.
It was a great experience for six weeks.
And so you'd be back there in the kitchen doing prep with the big Hobart mixer.
He thinks I just googled it.
It would cost you about 45 to 50,000 to buy
a
new one of these giant.
Yeah, because it would make like 10 or 12 gallons of this stuff to make.
Because you could go through that much.
This place was really busy.
It was really popular at the time.
On Sunday morning speed, we had people lined up outside of the parking lot to get in to one of the 110 seats that we had in this place.
making those buttermilk pancakes, but yeah you put in the mix and then the water and you know the key to make those things sweet was butter, extra butter.
You melted the butter in these huge pots and they just pour that melted butter into the mix at the very end and the pancakes would rise and you know you put them on the hot griddle at a certain temperature and then when you see them start to bubble and you flip them that one time you would
flip them over, carefully learn how to do it, get a little bit in the air.
You'd have to flip your eggs the same way too, you know, an omelette type of thing, learn how to flip it with your wrist.
I just made some eggs like that today, over easy in the frying pan.
And then when you sell them, as they say, like short order cooks, you get that line up of plates.
You flip the spatula underneath and you put it in your left palm, then you put it, you know, set it down in the air.
onto the plate that way, that way that they rise, they don't get smushed and all that.
I made thousands of pancakes for three years.
Sounds like you could put the apron on right now and get back there, Mike.
There's a coffee shop that was close by and a guy suddenly had an appendicitis and owned the place and it was like Father's Day, so I went back there and I did three hours in the kitchen after like I hadn't done it in 25 years, but you never lose it.
It's
like an altar boy when one of them gets sick and you have to come out of the bullpen and go up there and
serve.
to burn down the church when it comes to lighting the candles.
That's
right.
Did you ever hear Brian Regan's joke about the international, about the IHOPs?
No.
When an IHOP would go out of business and someone would rent that space, but everybody knows it used to be an IHOP.
Right.
Sure, it's that big blue high angle.
Yeah.
And he would do the guy sitting there trying to get insurance.
He's like, he's like, how many times did they hear jokes?
Like, uh, you know, they give the big insurance feeling.
He's like, you think I could get a rooty, tooty, fresh and
fruit.
There's one in Jamesville.
It used to be an I hop is actually one that I kind of trained in one summer while I was a kid.
And now it's some sort of cash and loan thing.
And you've got to think all the jokes that they get, right?
Every time they come in there, can I have some blueberry pancakes?
Silver dollars, please.
Yeah.
That's
so great.
Um, well, good to know.
I'd like, I like, I learned a little bit more about you every time here on the show, Mike, and I have to say it's, uh, it's liberating.
It's liberating and it's comforting.
Um, that's pretty cool.
So all right, let's, let's turn to basketball, Mike, cause this is a big weekend.
It's a big day tomorrow.
Even for, uh, you got the Badgers and Marquette, um, both playing as Marquette tomorrow or Sunday.
It's tomorrow
morning.
It's your right.
I mean, it's.
today's their tomorrow's all basketball eleven a.m.
the market golden eagles are at home and the other day shaka smart said after the loss to you know another tough game to you con on the road he said uh... you know i got you down saturday i'm like oh wow that's right you know this he's already wrapped
up for a
season so i went and looked and you did you know that alma quire played at st john
You know in their
plane tomorrow.
I think I did know that I remember I
didn't because I got home last night from you know covering a practice and and I turn on NBC and Jimmy Fallon opens up the Tonight Show last night With the number six ranked St.
John's basketball team in all the players all the young guys Singing a fight storm a fight a fight song for the Red Storm Huh, you know just one of his bits of like what it was cold hard opens to the show
And I realized, oh, you see, you know, St.
John's is ranked sixth in the nation, like Jimmy and New York City and all of
New York.
They're probably really excited about this team, right?
So that's the team that the Golden Eagles have to face tomorrow on their senior day.
And it's their last game for guys like Stevie Mitchell and David Copeland, who's probably going to go down with the most games played in a career at Marquette and Cam Jones.
and uh... i've come to office lost the other night to you con where they've got all that weather out in new england and off you heard this that there was a twenty two-minute game delay at the start of the game that the authorities came over to shock a smart head coach of marquette said coach we've got the pavilion here's leaking water and we got this water down here at the baseline and so he went to dan hurley the head coach of you kind of said
dan listen and uh... what will play in your practice court across the street we're not going home without play the game
is
talking about canceling the game so it took him twenty two minutes to mop it up and figure out fix the leaking and they got the game in the other night but market they've they've lost like three of their last seven games mostly on the road like to create in the little bit you can obviously that is not the ranking so big game for them tomorrow and they're honoring you know they'll be on the amigua record heap amigua played
first the saint john's red storm in from nineteen forty to fifty one before he moved to milwaukee and then took the the market warriors then to the nineteen seventy seven championship learn that this week
Yeah, that was a great win.
And I think that's why I know a little bit about Al McGuire is just because he was the last coach, or, you know, to win that championship in 77.
That was such a great year.
So, all right, you got Marquette at 11 a.m.
Then you got the Badgers at noon.
It's decision time.
I guess you could switch back and forth.
But the 12th ranked Badgers take on, is it, they got a 10-state.
10-state, yeah.
10-state, you know, great football
team.
Not so
good.
It's good ball.
Not so good.
uh... badgers they've only had two losses in the last like the last four weeks you know the last seven yeah they lost a lot of home to organ and then last saturday on the road to number eight ranked uh... michigan state but they beat minnesota in minneapolis the other night seventy four sixty seven and uh... if you see this jeff jenna key kid you know they put him out there to guard he come up out like in the you know the second half
and he's he's in your face you know he's a great idea and really hustles around and all of a sudden he trips over some guys you know face plan face first into the court and he comes up and he's walking around he's feeling around uh... you know the announcers even said like madlipa said like i i think he's picking up a tooth off the court and after the game great guard said yeah yeah he kinda looks like a hockey player now chip to do he's got a big chip tooth
You know, he looks like Jim Carrey and Duff.
Duff and Duffer.
It's got
the
bangs.
Well, that's nice, coach.
You know, Mrs. Janaki, his mom is probably listening to this on the radio like, you know, you're calling my son a hockey player now.
You know, shame on you.
But
anyway, he's going to be OK.
He had a little press conference and a trip to the dentist will have to fix that.
Mike, before we let you go, we're right now, as it stands, where do you see, you know,
Big 10 tournament, notwithstanding or Big East tournament, the rankings or the seedings, I should say, like, you think Badgers are three or four, Marquette, eight or nine?
Yeah, you
know, I don't have that good of a feel of it.
And that's because there's kind of a log jam at the top of that.
And, but I think, you know, I mean, it doesn't always seem like sometimes they've moved these teams around to in terms of interest and, you know, what they're going to be.
I don't know if they're going to play in that tournament they're going to have in Milwaukee.
or be moved to one of the other regions.
But, you know, the Badgers, they've been consistently good now the last two months.
They have beat an awful lot of good teams, and they're consistently good with the three-point shots.
So I would think that they're going to get a higher seed than anybody would have ever predicted out of this group at the start of this season.
Yeah, especially if they slumped a little bit, too.
It seems like Mike.
As always, my friend, thank you so much.
We'll be checking in with you, hopefully, during a free agency.
That's going to be an exciting time, as will the draft.
But glad you're home, enjoy your family, and let's talk soon.
I love the show, Pete.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for having me on the pocket
next
time.
Okay, buddy.
That's Mike Clemens, Civic Media Sports Guru.
Always fun to talk to.
Terry Barr will be here at 735.
It's a bar band Friday night.
She will bring new music and it's really good.
I love this Sam Ness.
This is who we're going to talk about.
He's a good singer-songwriter.
That's coming up at 735.
I did do some research here because I saw Anna from Madison's text about buckwheats and
I knew they were kind of good for you, like better than regular flour, but this is what I, I just Google this after I saw Anna's text and it said, yes, buckwheat is generally considered a healthy food with several potential benefits.
Health benefits include they're gluten free and a lot of doctors, I've talked to a lot of doctors, two or three over the last 10 years have said.
Yes, give up gluten.
You'll feel healthier.
Even if you don't have celiac disease.
I've never really fully done that, but a lot of people say giving up gluten will make you feel better.
So buckwheat pancakes are gluten-free.
And buckwheat is a good source of fiber and protein, magnesium, iron, and antioxidants.
I do remember that buckwheats have a lot of fiber.
Let's put it this way.
You have to eat them on the way to the bathroom.
That's how much.
Oh, no.
No, they're very good for you though.
And I like the texture.
Are you saying we have a call?
Do we have time to take a call?
We have about one minute.
All right.
Yeah, let's get him on.
Who is it?
It's Ollie from the Northwoods.
Ollie from the... Oh, man, a call from the Northwoods.
I'm in heaven.
How's it going, Ollie?
Oh, it's going great.
I just called to give my two cents where if I bought the pancake.
Yeah,
please.
My mom was a farm girl from Norwegian.
Um, ancestry, and on the farm, we always had, uh...
Hey, Ollie.
Ollie, can you hold on for one minute?
I know this is gonna be a good story, but we have to do a break.
Can you just hold on so we can get the full story?
Oh, sure, no problem.
Okay, all right, we're gonna do a very quick break, then we're gonna come back in here about Ollie's pancakes.
Oh, if that doesn't already exist as a pancake house, it should.
Let's all go down to Ollie's pancakes.
All right, we're coming right back on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
There's a problem with Heather, Zion, bargain buildings, waitin' for police.
It's
Heather's hair.
Monica from Mount Horrib says, the only way I like pancakes is on someone else's plate.
I don't like pancakes, yet I'm meeting some gal pals at Pancake Cafe tomorrow.
It's not my choice, but I'll be having a gigantic mound of hash browns and cheese instead.
Yeah, cheese and pancakes don't go.
No, it's not.
I could do cheese and hash browns, or hash browns and pancakes, but that triumvirate there is not very good.
Thank you, Madika.
All right, we have a phone call from Ali in the Northwoods, and she's telling us about her grandma's farm pancakes, and this sounded too delicious to rush before the break.
So Ali, if you would, please continue.
Well, the pancakes are a lighter batter, so the pancakes are a little bit thinner.
But then you serve them with either lingonberry sauce or sometimes we use choked cherry sauce.
And then you pour heavy cream over it.
The top cream off the cow's milk.
Wow.
And they're delicious.
You put that in the
batter or on the actual pancake?
No, you put that on the actual pancake.
After the pancake is cooked, you put your lingonberry sauce or your cranberry sauce down on it, and then cover the whole thing with heavy cream, and it's heaven.
We lovingly call those amp-mini pancakes.
You have to open up a restaurant.
You've just thrown my whole world into upheaval.
I've never heard
of anything like that before.
They're delicious, and actually...
The Norski Nook restaurants serve a form of that high Norwegian pancake.
That sounds fantastic.
Thank you so much for the call.
It was definitely worth, it was definitely worth the wait through the commercial.
Thanks for listening
and thanks
for sharing.
I will, don't be a stranger.
Thanks, Ollie.
Wow, that sounded, I don't even like cream that much, but with the pancakes and the fruit.
That sounds really good.
Get out of here.
That sounds fantastic.
Steady Eddie is checking in.
He's from the 608, and he's one of our most, what would you say, prolific textures?
Yeah, prolific, for sure.
He's
got a lot of thought into it.
He says, Pete, I eat my homemade pancakes only occasionally, but when I do, I don't skimp on real Wisconsin butter or genuine Wisconsin maple syrup.
I like where this is going.
Pancakes on a Saturday or Sunday morning with a good cup of coffee.
It's a beautiful thing.
Steady, I'll take that full stack of flapjacks Eddie Yeah, you're not steadfast Edward when you're mowing pancakes.
You're steady Eddie.
That's awesome.
Thank you steady Eddie great stuff And then we got PJ check in on the stream.
He says I prefer waffles because they have pockets to hold the syrup He's a real connoisseur.
They're kind of the same thing, right?
I mean and they both have better that's
Not great for you.
So, right.
But I mean, I don't do waffles have anything pancakes don't.
It's pretty much just a pancake with the holes, right?
I think I
don't know.
It tastes different for some reason.
Yeah,
I'm imagining it.
I even had malt in there or something.
I don't know.
That's great text.
Oh, thank you, PJ.
Yeah, waffles are getting really hungry for breakfast.
I
like waffles better than pancakes.
Do you really?
Yes.
Yeah,
because
Like PJ said, for me, they got pockets to hold the peanut butter and the syrup.
Oh my gosh.
That's hilarious.
My mom makes them kind of how Ollie was saying, she makes them thin.
Or was that Anna who said that?
She makes them real thin, liquidy, and then.
The problem is like she gives them to all the grandkids and they eat, you can eat 12 pancakes before you even know what hit you because they're thin and they're a little burnt and singed and they've got, not burnt, but just darker and then they've got their fresh maple syrup and the melted butter.
It is outstanding.
Wow, great stuff.
Okay, keep those texts coming.
If you wanna get in on the fun, how do you like your pancakes?
It's International Pancake Day and I love that Mike Clemens worked at an IHOP, that's so great.
God, he must have read that manual inside and out.
He was like regurgitating all the IHOP
mission statement and
like procedure was so great.
All right, so we had, we played this already.
I think it deserves a repeat because I don't usually get called by A-list celebrities.
But like I said earlier in the show, we've been kind of poking fun at Adrian Brody for his very lengthy Oscar speech.
You know was not a great speech.
Let's be honest.
It was too long and he didn't really say much even though he said a lot and So we had fun with it.
We kept playing it over and over like he was still talking even Tuesday night But he found out about it somehow, you know, I'm a civic media.
It's a big network Word gets around things go viral and Adrian Brody called me to really let me have it earlier today And we have that recording right now
Hello, yeah
Is this Pete Schwabba?
Yeah, who's calling?
It's Adrian Brody, chief.
They're gonna talk about me about my accepted speech.
How did you get this number?
I could get to anyone.
You see how broad my shoulders are.
Yeah, but what's that got to do with it?
Yeah, I know you think you're hot with your little radio show, but people love my speech.
I'm sure they did.
I'm surprised you're not still giving it, to be honest.
Yeah, I wanted apology, and I want it right now.
Dude, I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish here, but most people thought your speech sucked.
It was meandering, it went on forever.
I'm sorry, but it was almost as long as the brutalists for God's sakes.
Aw, yeah, I know a lot of people didn't like my speech.
You think I don't know that?
You know how many phone calls I still have to make?
Well, yeah, no one understands me.
Uh, um...
Yeah, hey Adrienne come on man.
Relax.
It's it's cool.
Look you got two Oscars Why would you care what anyone thinks about your speech or feel the need to talk for that amount of time and not really say anything?
Come on,
man Oh, you know what here?
I am opening up to you and you take a shot at me.
You see my shoulders.
Yeah, but
Have you seen my shoulders?
Yeah, man.
I saw a lot more of you than that in The Brutalist, which was totally unnecessary, by the way.
Look, dude, I- Yeah, look, it's cool, Schwab.
You know, I'll do anything for a role, but yeah, people love my shoulders.
Hang on a second.
R.B.
Weinstein's calling from prison and make sure I'm treating his ex-wife well.
You believe that guy?
Yeah.
Hey, no hard feelings, chief
dick.
Just like such a rude guy.
And he just-
Fast you know if he insulted my my manhood I Expected more out of him because he's like an artist go with those cliche name-calling things All right, so it is a bar ban Friday night ladies and gentlemen Monday night on nightlight get this is my friend Mike used to say hey get this Dan Davies will be here in the studio.
He's an actor based in northeast Wisconsin.
He's promoting a couple movies
Dan's a great guy.
He's been on the show before.
And then Peter van Doren will be here to talk fantasy baseball.
And I need an education.
I don't know much about it.
I've done football, never done fantasy baseball.
So we'll get into that.
That's Monday night on Nightlight.
But coming up next, our pal, Terry Barr on a bar ban Friday night.
It's Nightlight with Peach Waba.
Great to have you with me on this Friday night on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Time to check out original music with bar band Friday on nightlight now your host peach wabba and special guest Terry bar Welcome back ladies and gentlemen it is for many reasons one of our favorite times of the week as we head into the weekend we get to talk to one of our very truly good friends and someone who knows a
blank ton about music, all things music, what's happening in our state.
She does everything here at Civic Media and she joins us here for Barbie on Friday night as it's her namesake.
Terry Barr, how are you?
Hello Pete and Conrad and all your fabulous show listeners.
Happy Friday everybody.
Happy Friday.
It's great to see you.
It's been a very busy week for all of us but you have a show tomorrow night.
Hold on, I have to ask you something.
I can't just jump right in.
I have to have small talk, Terry.
It's just the way I'm wired.
So please excuse me, okay?
I have to get this off my chest.
Do it.
How do you like your pancakes?
What?
How do you like your pancakes?
I thought that's what you said and I thought, really?
That's why I had to ask you twice.
I know.
Um,
I actually like French
toast.
So now I'm being a contrarian, aren't I?
Oh, that's okay.
French toast is, at least it's different than the pancake.
The waffle and the pancake are almost too close to call, but French toast is different because you're dealing with bread.
And
Pete, we discovered a place to the south in Illinois.
Okay.
they make a bourbon maple syrup.
But the thing is, the actual maple syrup is from Wisconsin.
Okay.
And the bourbon is handcrafted at this distillery in DeKalb, Illinois.
I, you know, bourbon and maple syrup, that actually sounds pretty amazing.
A little bit of cinnamon sugar in there maybe or something.
I'm not gonna lie.
I've been fasting all week and kind of doing this keto thing and I am literally salivating right now because of all this pancake talk and just because of my Clemens voice, but I really I'm really Jonesen for some pancakes
OK, so what's your favorite pancake?
Well, I said it changed.
When I was a kid, I loved regular pancakes, kind of fluffy with lots of butter, lots of maple syrup, as I got older, real maple syrup, and then cinnamon sugar.
There was a place in Three Lakes called the Copper Kettle, where we used to go when we were kids, and we would get pancakes.
And then as I got older, my wife makes these protein pancakes.
There's little bits of like bacon in them, and walnuts, and blueberries, and—
I mean, they're dynamite, and you put some real maple syrup on that, some cinnamon sugar, top it off, and you're set.
You won't want to eat again the entire day.
That's the thing.
All right, now that we've covered.
Wait, it
sounds like what you need
right now.
I'm telling you, I'm going to, if I find an all night diner in the way home, it might be lights out.
How are you?
I'm good.
How about yourself?
Doing very well.
Very.
Do you like wakers?
I'm curious
about the fasting, though.
I have never done it, although I've heard if, say, you don't eat the night before until, like, sometime the next afternoon, which, you know, when you get busy and sometimes you just don't, that that's a small fast?
Yeah.
Are
you doing a several-day thing?
Well, I've done that.
I've done intermittent fasting anywhere from 16 to, like, 18 or 20 hours.
You eat within a four-hour window, a six-hour window.
It's not that tough.
You get the...
Tommy rumblings a little bit, but I have done like, and I love doing these a 36 hour fast, where you eat like at five o'clock at night or six, and then you're done and the next day you don't eat.
And then at six o'clock the next morning, a day, day and a half later, you can eat.
And what I like about that, Terry, is so much of my day is spent going, what am I going to eat?
And then I got to make it happen.
It's kind of nice waking up and going, I don't have to think about food all day.
I'm just going to drink coffee and water.
And if I get hungry, I'll take a walk.
And it's not that tough.
And it's very good for like, yeah, like it brings all your levels down with like blood pressure, cholesterol.
It gives your digestive system a break.
The benefits are incredible.
And I know because I used to be a comedian.
So you should listen to me.
I'm just, I'm just regurgitating what I read.
I'm not an authority.
I don't want to get anybody in trouble.
That's all I'm
saying.
Well, I'll join you the next time, but you got to give me a fair warning.
I just had this vision of Sage calling me into his office and saying, I don't know what to do here.
Did you tell people not to eat for 36?
And I don't want to be that guy, you know, cause I'm just, just a guy who reads some stuff.
But it is good.
It works for me.
I like it.
That's fun.
So.
So, all right, well, let's get down to your area of expertise, which is the state of Wisconsin and music.
And I don't even know if it's in that order, but you've brought us Sam Ness tonight.
And I love the music you sent.
Tell us about Sam Ness.
Sam Ness.
He is incredible.
He's got such an interesting backstory, too.
He was 18 years old, going to college.
You know, he had the whole thing planned.
And he was a theater guy.
So he was thinking Broadway, things like that.
Tall, lanky, good looking.
He totally could have done this.
But how about this?
for a gift when you graduate.
Somebody gives him, and he did not tell me who, but he gets the gift of a one-way ticket to Scotland.
That's where his whole story begins.
He canceled college, has still not gone to college.
How
many years later, he started his love of being a street musician in Scotland.
And this is where his entire career took off.
He's a sock city kid and that music program, the theater program and the socks get sock city, excuse me, school district is incredible.
So he continues to represent it well, even though he went a little different direction than his original plan.
Boy, no kidding.
I can't imagine going to Scotland to get
discovered, not that he went there to get discovered, but that he got his start there and his inspiration.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
Is he 20?
How old is he right now, Terry?
Yeah, now he's in his later 20s.
Still a
young guy.
But
he's
an old soul.
You know, he's one of those where he has experienced the world in like some of the most rustic ways.
Yeah.
He said when he ran out of money in various places, including Scotland, he camped in a tree.
Or he'd, you know, beg, I'll play songs for you if you let me sleep on your floor.
Or I'll exchange music for food.
He's done that and started doing that when he was 18.
He came back to his home in Wisconsin to then start recording albums.
And everyone loves him so much.
He is always doing a go fund me.
He always gets the albums funded.
And then boom, album comes out.
He promotes it.
He does a ton of shows in the US and Wisconsin.
And then he's like, I'm out.
I'm going to another country.
Wow.
He's got a really interesting background.
It says that he's drawn comparisons to Jim Morrison because he's got this beard.
And that's a pretty good guy to get compared to at least on some levels.
And he also played Marius.
in Les Mis, I assume that's like in a high school theater production.
And he played high school football and he got to this really interesting background.
He was
like the star of his theater in high school.
And that's why I think everyone was so surprised when he chose to not go to college for theater because
he
did.
He had his whole career path laid out and all of a sudden somebody gives him this ticket and he decides,
I'm going to go try this.
Do we know who gave him the ticket?
Is that like a secret or something?
He does not talk about, um, he said it was just a gift of a one way ticket that changed his life.
That is really interesting.
All right, so let's hear a song from Sam.
We've got two of them.
One's called Alexander.
The other one is called She Is Love.
What do you think we should lead off with,
Terry?
Let's start with Alexander only because we've been talking about his beginnings as an 18-year-old going to Scotland, living off the streets, busking around Scotland.
That's what this song is all about.
His beginnings in just trying to figure out who he was, where he was going as a musician, and if he was indeed going
to stick with it.
And then he found people there that believed in what he was doing.
So that's what this song
is about.
Unbelievable.
All right.
This is Alexander from Sam Ness by Way of Terry Barr.
Truck pulled over to the side of the road said where you trying to go?
So I throw my guitar in the back say hell I don't know Well, I got things to see and I got itchy feet I hit the road And I got
Nowhere to be and I got this hunger in me
So in your footsteps Alexander, I need to find the truth For your cause you were a martyr, so here's to you Well I got things to see and I got itchy feet, I hit the road
And I got this hunger in me.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Well, I bet missing home.
I need to feel colder Yeah, I say I've been missing home I need to feel colder I'm headed north Cause I got things to see And I got itchy feet I had to hold And I got
Well I got things to see and I got
Itchy feet, I hit the road.
Great song.
Boy, does he have a great voice.
There's like so much soul or something.
He's got a really unique voice.
Yeah, and the storytelling in the song
now that
you know what it's about and what he was going through at the time.
Yeah, you understand his story, but yet he tries.
as he has explained to me, tries to be vague enough that you understand what he's going through, but yet that you can take your own story away from it.
Yeah, and it makes total sense, too, after what you just said about him before.
Like, that's probably an autobiographical song on some level, but I love his voice.
So we have to do a quick break, but...
Do you have shows, is something going on around the state?
You kind of hinted in your email that maybe there were some cool shows coming up or
something.
Well, and part of the reason we're talking to Sam and sharing his music.
He's another one of the featured artists at the Madison Area Music Association Mama Cares show that's coming up at the end of the month.
And again, this is one of these organizations that supports musicians who are maybe having a hard time paying the rent, paying their bills, and helps so many people during COVID.
And Sam is another one.
He said, I just want to step up and pay it forward.
some day, I might need that help.
So that's why he's part of the show.
That's one of the big ones coming up.
But it's exciting because there's old venues reopening again.
Oh, wow.
Let's start with that, too.
Yeah, right after the break.
But you're right.
This guy's a really old soul.
And we'll hear more from Sam Ness, too, coming up next after a very short break.
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Okay, so we just heard Sam Nestary.
Is he live in the lair tomorrow?
Here's the deal.
Rocker still recuperating after his heart attack.
We're holding it together.
You know, he kind of is like the lead of everything we do.
But I think we've been having great shows just because we are so lucky to have so many amazing musicians from all around Wisconsin that want to be part of the show, whether that means they call in or they just send us new music or old music.
Or they join us in studio for a little bit.
We still have not gotten back to the hour long live in the
later.
OK, that makes sense.
Soon.
Soon.
I know.
It's like we're building up now because we're all excited to get back to it.
But we don't want to push rocker and say, of course not.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
No,
that makes total sense.
Then we'll get in trouble, I think, with both his wife and his
doctor.
Well, this is great.
I mean, Sam Ness, and it's Dave Matthews, who he kind of sounds like a little bit.
It was bothering me.
I couldn't figure
that out.
Like, when he sings Crash and his voice in this song, we just heard Alexander was great, but he was the male vocalist of the year I saw in the Madison Area Music Awards.
Very cool.
And we have another song.
So let's play that so we can get, so we can discuss that.
This song is called She Is Love.
It's another really cool song brought to you by Way of Terry Barr.
Here's Sam Ness once
again.
The neon serves its purpose I fill the space above a stool Sometimes I hear whispers In a cacophony of noise She teaches me of kindness Though I've never heard her voice
She's the memory of a story Someone told me long ago about their dream She's a place
that
feels familiar And I know I've never seen Sometimes I feel invisible Or the elephant in the room
She points my eyes towards the sky and says sometimes the stars feel that way too.
Sometimes I get restless and I'm driving down the road.
She calms my mind singing love at night through my van's radio.
She's the memory of a story Someone told me long ago about that dream She's a place that feels familiar And I know I've never seen She is love She is love
She is love love love love love
I hope one day I'll see you.
Great song.
Great song.
We're, you know, I was looking at his website.
His tour dates are a little outdated.
Do you know where people can see him?
The only show right now that I know he has is the Mama Cares show because he's working on a new album.
He just bought a house.
I know, so he's kind of flipping the script on all these other things we've talked about where, that all of a sudden I have a home.
I've never had a home before, unless you count when I would go off the road from wherever I am and say, hey mom, can I sleep on your couch again?
That's, wow.
And I love, he won the male vocalist of the year two and 2019.
If he's in his late twenties now, he was such a young guy.
Terry, thank you so much as always.
This
was so fun.
Oh, thank you, Pete.
You're the best.
Thanks so much.
And I hope we'll have you back here next Friday.
OK,
thanks.
Have a great weekend.
You
too.
That's Terry Barr.
Bar ban Friday night in the books, ladies and gentlemen, always fun.
Bridget says, where was that text?
We got a couple of texts here.
I got to get to Bridget says pancakes with blueberries and walnuts with butter and maple syrup.
Yes, please.
Brian from Milwaukee says waffles and pancakes use the same.
better recipe.
All right, Conrad, that seals it for us.
But it has pockets.
But it has pockets, right.
And Brian also says, so yes, are kind of the same.
Thank you for all your texts and calls.
And thank you to Mike Clemens and Terry Barr.
And we'll be back Monday on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm Peach Wabba saying good night,
Wisconsin.
Broadcasting live, statewide, from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay. This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood. And now a guy who thinks chickens dream of one day being pot pies, Pete Schwabba.
Joining us now in the program is he so often does our friend Matt Miller. He's a Milwaukee film critic who does great work and has always enjoyed to read. You can check out his sub-stack at a Man About Film. Check out his work. He does good stuff there. And he joins us now over the stream on Nightlight. Matt, how are you? I'm doing great. I'm doing fantastic. A little tired. I'm still waiting for Adrian Brody's speech time.
we've chopped it up we're getting through it it's a mini series here tonight um it's unbelievable what he it's funny it's ironic that
He was in the longest movie in the history of mankind, and then he gives the longest speech too, so I love it. Well, and, you know, I could almost grant it if he was like a surprise winner. Like if he was, you know, not a betting favorite and, you know, he gets up there and he's like, ah, or, but A, he was somebody who was expected to be up there. It was between him and Timothy Chalamet. And B, he's been there before. Like he won an Oscar before. This isn't new to you. So, I mean, it's a great performance.
He's a worthy winner, but...
Boy, and, and you know what? No good speech has ever begun with the sentence. I'm going, he threw his gum at his wife, you know, like that. Oh, is that what he threw? I didn't know. I saw him toss something. And instead of just swallowing it like a normal person or I don't know, figuring out something, he like shucked it at his partner. And I'm just like, this is not a good start. This is a, this is not a strong start. It would have been cool if he was like smoking a cigarette and he looked at her and said,
keep this lit. But yeah, gum. I don't get that. That's just, I think it's officially by one second, the longest speech in the history of the Academy. Is that true?
which takes some doing. So good work, Adrian Brody. And the funny thing is, it's not like he had a lot of meaningful things to say. We got to the end of that speech and we were like, the guy's trying to, you know, make peace in the Middle East. We're able to wrap it up faster than you. Yeah, he needed an envoy. Yeah, it was strange because it was meandering. It's like, really? And then he tells them to stop the music. I got to get through this. And like, he's a second time Oscar.
that's probably what gave him the street cred to have them do that, but come on, dude. Well, I'm like, you'd think when he was shushing, the orchestra was like, oh, here's where he has like the heartfelt tribute to his parents or something. And instead it was just more rambling. It was one of the most bizarre parts of the night. And there was a random whiz tribute in the middle of the night. So it was a fun night, but that was not one of the highlights. What? All right, before we get hardcore into this deep dive, I.
came down to the wire. The only film I was unable to see was I'm Still Here. I just don't live in an area where they showed it and it's not available. That was a late release. That one just came out just a few weeks ago. Yeah, but I did see Nickel Boys and I did see the Brutalist. I wasn't a fan of the Brutalist. I love the story of Nickel Boys, but I thought the techniques they use breaking the fourth wall and kind of how they told the story took me out of it a little bit. I know some people love it. What is your take on those two films, Matt?
Yeah, I love Nickel. Nickel Boys would have been, if I was a person with a ballot, Nickel Boys would have been my best picture. I do get the kind of hesitance people have toward that movie. For people who don't know, it's a movie about two young black boys in a reform school in a abusive, horrific reform school in Florida in the 1960s based on the Colson Whitehead novel. And it's all told in first person mode. It is all told from the perspective of
of its two characters. And I think that works really well in that movie. I think it especially serves as a gut punch when they're older, you see that the camera is not first person. It is dissociated. It is seen from their backside. And I think it's a very moving, emotionally well-told movie. But I understand it is a very strange movie. Like I said, a lot of...
technical craft is getting involved in that film. And it can be distancing for some people. For me, it was more immersive. But yeah, I'm amazed it got the best picture nomination over the likes of Sing Sing, which is a little bit more, you know, conventionally uplifting and interesting and kind of conventionally, you know, emotional. So I was at the nomination was the win there. And I respect the brutalist. I think it's a mammoth
production that they pulled that movie off. But for a three and a half hour long movie, I really want to like feel that movie and really come away being amazed. And the back half of that movie just doesn't come together for me in a way that I really walked out satisfied. But I can't not appreciate.
everything that went into making that movie. It's one maybe I respect more than I really love. And I think that's why it didn't ruin much last night, you know? Yeah. I think, you know, other than Adrian Brody and Best Score, I think Brutalist was otherwise pretty much held out. And in a weird way, and that's a great way to put it, I respect it too. And Adrian Brody was great. I just felt like it would have had a better chance if it were a true story. You know what I mean? Like I felt like kind of it was like, wait, now this guy's doing this and now
I don't know. It just did not resonate with me, but it looked great. Adrian Brody, all the actors were great. Felicity Jones was great.
I will say, I like that it's not a true story. Like, if you remember three years ago, there was that weird thing with Tar, the Kate Blanchett movie, where people were like, oh, is this a biopic? And everyone was like, no, this is a completely made up character. And that's what I had with The Brutalist, where I walked out and I was like, I got to read more about this architect. And then it was like, oh, he's not a real person. But I think that speaks to the writing of that movie that he feels so real in a lot. And the story feels so tangible.
I think that's maybe the most impressive thing about the movie is that it feels like it should be based on a real person, or at least that this is a true story that actually is, for the most part, just inspired by an architect, as opposed to being truly a biography. Right. And it's hard to argue with his win. Before we get into the awards, Matt, what did you think of the broadcast itself, the Oscars? I thought it was a really good show. I think I thought...
Conan O'Brien, this has got to be the first time in my lifetime that someone has hosted the Oscars and gotten rave reviews. Yeah. Normally the hosting the Oscars is the most hated job in Hollywood. You know, it's a no win scenario. Everyone thinks you did a bad job. The room is, you know, awkward.
Koenig killed it. I think he did a very good job balancing, making fun of the room, making fun of himself. When it got to the, why are we gathered here when the world is a mess portion of the night? I thought he delivered that really sincerely and well. I thought he did a good job of, I liked the pomp and circumstance of the show. I liked the kind of, we're going to do a 10 minute tribute to James Bond for no real reason. What was that? Yeah, that was crazy.
If Amazon didn't buy the rights to Bond and that franchise is doomed to become a shell of itself and MCU'd to death, I think I'd be more upset about that, but I appreciated it. I think, do you know the John Mulaney joke about making a birthday sign where it's like you start and you do a big ol' B and a big ol' I and a smaller R and a thing and you realize you're running out of room on the sign?
That's how last night's show kind of felt, where it was like, in the beginning of the night, they really let people take their time and luxuriate. You got these really fun speeches and emotional moments. And then as the night got on, clearly ABC was like, we got to wrap this up so more people started getting played off. And it seemed like things were really kind of rushing to get to the end. But I thought it was a good show. I'm sure the ratings aren't going to be great. I don't think this was a show. People were like, oh, I got to see what's going on.
here and we have to acknowledge that, you know, these kind of shows are becoming more niche entertainment as opposed to general public entertainment. That's fine. That is the way culture is going right now. Um, but I thought it was a good show. And I think if the Oscars were smart, they should be like Conan. Here's a 10 year contract doing this. You did great. He was in Conan's already kind of awkward. I thought he seemed at.
as at ease as I've ever seen him hosting that broadcast like he was a natural to do that. I thought he pulled it off great. He has that good insider outsider energy where he knows what's going on. He knows how to poke fun at the industry while also seeming like an outsider but also not
alienating the people way Kimmel can or the way Ricky Gervais does where Ricky Gervais just seems like he's it tends to run a little mean and a little self-satisfied about it's like oh I bet you've never heard this about yourselves um yes they have Ricky they have the internet too um so I really liked Conan I thought he had just the right tone you know and again I'd be shocked if he doesn't come back next year if he doesn't
I don't know what they're doing. I hope he does too. And just to put a button on the broadcast itself, I love what they did with the fire victims, with the first responders. The sandworm thing was ridiculous, but kind of funny and just silly. So I like that. Yeah. The one complaint I have, and this will be apparently my eternal complaint, show clips of the movie. Yeah.
Show the work. I don't need to hear Robert Downey Jr. use this big five minute flowery, you know, monologue to each of the nominees for Best Supporting Actor that I tune out of. Show the work that you are nominating and get people excited to see these performances as opposed to have someone just being like, oh man, that cinematography was so good. Show the cinematography. It's a visual medium. Right. That's what we're doing here. Yeah.
Mick Jagger was cool too. That was kind of fun when Jagger went out there. And that's the vibe, I think, of the modern Oscars. Have celebrities come out and kind of just seem like they're hanging out, being cool on stage. That was what the Oscars can be at their best. And I think what we need them to be, I thought last night it was that good combination of relaxed and glamorous and luxuriating in its pump.
And I think that's a good combo we can move forward with. I totally agree. My guest is Matt Miller. He is a Milwaukee-based film critic. Check out his stuff on his sub-stack at A Man About Film. We're breaking down the Oscars a little bit here. Let's jump in to the actual awards, Matt. Kieran Culkin started off the evening with a win. Your thoughts?
One of the weirder steamroll victories I've seen in a while, and we've seen some weird ones too. Like Renee Zellweger winning for Judy, which no one has thought about that Oscar winning quite some time. I think he's very good in a real pain.
I'm just amazed there was never seemingly any competition. And I kept waiting for that to happen. You know, when real pain missed out on best picture nomination, I was like, okay, maybe this is Ed Norton's time. And then, you know, we start getting into the awards ceremonies and his speeches are kind of awkward and rambling. And you're like, okay, well, maybe this will be, you know, Guy Pierce in the Brutalist. Maybe people will move towards him. Never happened. People just really like him, like his persona.
liked that performance in the movie, which I think is fair. It's a good performance. And that movie crumbles if that performance isn't perfect. Are you talking about Kieran Culkin now or Guy Pearce? Kieran Culkin. OK, right. If Culkin's performance is not pitch perfect in terms of being a charming jerk like he, a guy you hate that you have to be related to, but also you get why people like him.
That movie falls apart. That movie is unwatchable. That movie is a Sundance movie no one ever speaks of ever again. And instead, it became the movie it was. So I appreciate the win. But yeah, I'm kind of amazed that it never faced any resistance this entire year. My whole thing with that was, I felt like he was doing his character from succession too. He's so good at that. It's so natural to him. I felt like Guy Pearce.
I wasn't expecting him to win, but when I saw, I just saw The Brutalist yesterday. And Guy Pearce was one of my favorite actors. I thought he was great, loved Ed Norton, Jeremy Strong, I did not see the apprentice, Boris Soff was good, and Nora, I really, it could have gone any way in that.
of those nominees, at least. Yeah, I mean, you've got Boris, Boris. Yeah, in a Nora, which obviously is a movie they loved. And he becomes a very big part of that movie by the second half at Norton. He's the heart of a complete unknown. And I I agree. I think Guy Pierce is really this is like he's fun in the list. The way he plays this kind of, you know, aloof.
Hyperbillionaire, you know, I was I was trying to figure his character out the whole movie That was my favorite thing maybe about that in addition to Adrian Brody's performance. Yeah Yeah, I think all the thing with all the winners this year is that pretty much all of them I have no problems with this was a really
strong year of winners that I'm like, good for you. Like even Zoe Saldana, I don't love Amelia Perez. I don't love that performance. But listen, Zoe's been putting in good work for years in really big stuff. She took a big swing in this movie. She's probably the best performance in that movie. So yeah, that's fine.
Let's pick up there when we come back in for a very short break. Matt Miller is here helping us break down the Oscars. We'll get into some of the other awards when we come back. And then Mark Hanson is here at 735, the musical theater chair at the University of Wisconsin Stevens Point. You won't want to miss that as well. It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
In Madison, she's in the 608 says, Pete, Adrian Brody's girlfriend is Harvey Weinstein's ex-wife. Wow. Talk about, yeah, they split up in 2018. Talk about a rebound. So if she's married to Harvey Weinstein, getting a chunk of gum thrown in her direction is probably a highlight of her day, I would imagine. That is not the reason. That is not great. That is not, no one.
Well, whatever. I mean, that's a shock. Thank you, Anna, for the text. And then, where are we here? Conrad, I'm lost. Oh, there we go. Joshua from Wausau says, Pete, this is good. Pete, how about awards? I watched The Godfather of Green Bay a couple of months ago. Good movie. Made me laugh, but it deserves an award for the number of times the Macarena is played in a movie.
Yeah, most people probably wouldn't argue with their Joshua. We paid handsomely for that title. We wanted to get our fair use out of it. Matt Miller is here. We're breaking down the Oscars. Matt, what, so you're okay with Zoe Saldana? That's another category I thought could have gone. I would have been happy with anybody that won. I thought they were all great. I will say Amelia Perez, the more distance I have from it, the more I dislike it for some reason.
Yeah, I think it's funny because I talking to people in my Oscar watching room and people I was texting with one of the big takeaways was all that movie looks interesting I want to like everyone wanted to watch that movie But I think the thing is Amelia Perez is best watched in 10 second clips like that movie is so out of control and so many you know impulses not being reigned in and a lot of people taking big swings
that maybe don't work, especially across a two hour time frame. I can respect the swings it's taking, but it is not a movie I predict. It was the least of the nominees I thought this year. Same. And what I don't understand is I don't think the Twitter scandal even hurt them. I think they were lucky to win two. I don't know that that really hurt them in the long run.
I think even as like I think that probably was the death knell for that movie but I think it was as soon as it got that many nominations because people forget it was only one nomination away from tying the record for most nominations for a movie ever. I think you know the frontrunners curse hit it you know it got all those nominations and people were like
Do we like this movie that much? I don't think so. And people backed away from it, and they found other places to go. And obviously, Enora was that case, especially in terms of best picture. So let's talk about, we talked a little bit about Adrian Brody. Was that an upset, or who would you have given it to, Matt?
It's hard to say. I would have given it to the woman Fernanda Torres, and I'm still here, the Brazilian movie. I think that's a really fabulous performance in a very good movie. I wouldn't call that an upset. I know a lot of people in the aftermath were like, oh, Demi Moore looks like Hollywood didn't learn the lesson from the substance. Oh, sorry. Wait, who did I say? I was talking about Adrienne Brody. But maybe you thought I meant Amelia Perez. But I was asking if you thought Adrienne Brody
Uh, who would you have given best actor to? Oh, uh, best actor. I would have, oh boy. Uh, in that category, I'm trying to remember who's all in there. You got Timothy Chalamet, Coleman Domingo. I think I would have given it to Chalamet. I think he's pretty great in that movie. And I think of the nominate. Oh no, Coleman Domingo and Sing Sing. Never mind. I forgot he's nominated. He's tremendous in Sing Sing. Yeah. Yeah. And Coleman Domingo is going to be accepting award at the Oscars within the next five years. I agree.
Putting out great work, he is really liked in Hollywood. I think if he finds the right movie and it gets the right push, that's a done deal. It's like Paul Giamatti with the holdovers. Give him one more movie and that man is going to have an Oscar in his head. It's so funny you say that because Coleman Domingo, you're right. I watched the first spin-off of The Walking Dead, Fear the Walking Dead. I stuck with that.
kind of because of him, he plays a scoundrel and I still liked him. Like the guy just has that quality. He's got that great voice. He's a good actor for whatever reason people love him. So you're probably right about that. He's instant gravitas on screen. Like he's got, you know, to bring it to current events, like he's got kind of Gene Hackman energy where it's just like that guy shows up on screen and he feels like a lived in person immediately. That's really interesting.
OK, so Coleman Domingo, but yeah, I'm with you. I can't argue. Adrian Brody was great. Let's turn to actress. I have to say, yeah, I don't know how you feel about the substance. I hated it. Another movie when I get distance from it. No, thanks. And to me, Moore was good, but everyone was acting like it was a slam dunk. And I'm like, there's some other great performances here, too. I don't I didn't think what she did. I've seen her act in other better films, I think.
Yeah, and I was getting to this point where, you know, this morning everyone was like, ooh, looks like Hollywood didn't learn the lesson from the substance. They gave a new young starlet the award, instead of, you know, a woman who's aging. And I just want to be like, are we forgetting that the substance is an insane movie? Yeah! Are we forgetting that the substance is one of the wildest movies to ever receive best picture nominations from the Oscars? That movie is gross and violent and in your face at all.
all times, the fact that Demi Moore was in the running is a victory all in itself. I really like that movie. I think that movie is outlandish and wild.
And I'm not surprised at all that the Oscars in the end were like, yeah, this movie's too big, too weird. And if they loved Inora as much as they obviously did, they gave it best picture. They gave it, I believe, five Oscars at the end of the night. Five or six Oscars at the end of the night. They clearly liked Inora a lot. How do you give Inora a best picture and not give Inora
Best actress, so I think, and you know what, Mikey Madison is tremendous in the movie. That's another performance where that movie doesn't work without her. She carries it, absolutely. Yeah, the movie is at its worst when she falls out of the movie in that kind of middle section, but when she is the centerpiece of that movie, that movie is very good.
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Paul Hannah is here in the studio. I heard you're a big Kiss Fan. I did my research and I want to tell you that my first album I bought when I was a kid was an album called Machine Head by Deep Purple. Yeah. And I walked to Sears in my neighborhood in Chicago. Me and my brother probably had no business being that far away from home, but just to buy Deep Purple. And that was my second album I owned was Destroyer. Yeah. So I love that I found out that you were a huge Kiss Fan and I haven't listened to much in recent years, but you got to play with them.
I got to play with Ace, I think it was like three or four times and then Gene, I did one show with. Yeah, it was pretty cool. And Ace is your idol, right? Or it was when you were younger? Yeah, growing up, he was such an influence watching it. When I'd see those videos as a kid, it just ruined me, you know? Like I'd see him, I'm like, I gotta do that. I gotta be that guy. That's so great. I remember as a kid too, like some kids in the neighborhood were like, thought they knew it all. And so we hear a kiss and they go, Ace Freely or Jimmy Page? Maybe Ace Freely over here. None of them are new.
anything about what they were talking about. But they just love their guy, you know. So Paul Hannah is here. He is a Northeast Wisconsin based singer-songwriter and he's the front man for the band Annex. And he is in the studio right now with his guitar and he's going to play something for us, which is so fantastic. What are you thinking, buddy? Awesome. I'm going to do a song called New Morning. I wrote this song with one of my best friends, Chad Rieslegger, and it was super funny because we used to do back in the day.
You know, we trade off cassette tapes, but now you can text ideas. He was actually in India when we wrote this song. So we were going back and forth and he was across the across the world. So it's pretty neat. Fantastic. All right. What's it called? It's called New Morning. New Morning, Paul Hannah on Nightlight.
In this
How old is that song? Is that something new? That's not super, super new. Maybe, I don't know, six, seven years, something like that, maybe? So we talked about Ace Freely. I know you've played with Cheap Trick and those guys, you can obviously really rock. You also list Don Felder as one of your influences. I think you did in one of your, or you played with them. Played dead show, yep. With Frank Hermans. This was kind of more of a cool,
almost sounded like you can't always get what you want type. What's your choice to play? Do you like the head bang? Do you like to play it more chill? What's your favorite stuff to play? I just love melody. So if it's rocking and there's a melody, I'm in. If it's mellow and there's a melody, I'm in. Was there a moment like when you started? I think you said
I read something that said you were like nine years old when you started playing the guitar or something. Was there a moment where you were like, I have to play that? I have to learn how to do that? Were you watching someone? Did someone put it in your hands? My mother took me to see the movie La Bamba. And I will never forget. I will never forget it for as long as I live. You gotta find that song. La Bamba.
When I was younger, my mom took me to see that movie and I'm sure the week before I said I wanted to be an astronaut or I wanted to be a lawyer or a doctor or whatever I was going to say that week. But after that happened, I looked at my mom and I said, I want a guitar and I'm going to do that because I watched everyone, they just freaked out and that song for some reason, it just, it hit me. It affected me. It's one of those songs that when it comes on.
No one goes, oh, this again. They just love it. It's iconic. That's so cool. You were talking about Tommy's benefit before. Yes. Do you want to just, in case people just tune in, tell us what that is again and where they can find out more information about it? Because I don't know that we covered that. So we are now linked in with the Greater Green Bay Community Foundation, which is they've got their website. And you can hop on that with, and there's a link that you can find the Tommy.
It's called the Tommy foundation We've been doing this since 2003 he passed on June 14th of 2003 and since then we've been doing We used to do it around There was a there was a couple different shows that we did but now we do it right around his birthday which lands right around it's right around Thanksgiving and we've been doing it consecutively I mean
COVID through a wrench that year and there was a couple that we weren't able to do when I was touring with hairball and such but the the event has gone you know every year and We essentially I don't want to ruin the surprise too much But we get these kids to come up and jam and they're usually very young children You know they're they're kids and they they come in and we find students that necessarily maybe they're
their parents can't afford to get them a brand new Les Paul or a new drum set. And we have those instruments up on stage. They think they're just coming up to play. And then that night they walk away with a new drum set or a new guitar. But we do, we give away all that stuff in front of a, you know, right around, you know, 1500 people. So it's pretty cool. Yeah. That's really cool. I'm a novice. I own a guitar I've had for 40 years. It's an old beat up applause.
So I don't know anything about guitars. So forgive me if I got this wrong, but I was reading an article about you and it sounded like you said you picked up a Les Paul. But the way the article was written, did you learn on an electric guitar or acoustic? So my first guitar I ever got was a nylon string harmony that my parents got from Mecca Music here in Green Bay when they were still open. And I got that for Christmas. And I played that.
For quite some time and then I switched to an electric Excuse me, I always say to two people they should start out on acoustic right get used to playing quote-unquote cowboy chords and learn you know the fundamentals to what the guitar kind of is and then When you get an electric it's a it's a completely different beast. It really is is our Those are killers on your nylon strings like those will give you like
Callus is worse than steel strings, right? Um, I feel like it's no I feel like the nylon string is more kind of like it's like you're it's got fishing line, you know for that top three strings They they have a different tone completely but Yeah, when you get into the phosphor bronze like an acoustic it they'll they'll rip your they'll rip your your fingers right apart You talked about epic Riverside. Do you have a favorite like if you could play one gig?
in the Green Bay area or northeast Wisconsin, where would it be? What venue do you absolutely love? I feel like I've been very blessed. We've got to play the Brown County Arena, which is where I saw my first rock concert ever. I got to play the rush. I opened up for Ted Nuget and Stick Scenario when they were there. I did a solo thing for that. But Epic is...
They all kind of have their own thing. You know, the rush is so big and so ginormous. It's very intimidating to say the least, but Epic has laid out so well. I just have, it's tough not to go with Epic, but yeah, I mean, it's such a great venue. Yeah, exactly.
Do you have a favorite band that you like to watch a lot? Like when you're out in the town and you see someone's playing, who do you like? Oh, I gotta go see them. As far as local? Yeah, just local. Northeast Wisconsin or Wisconsin in general. I'm a big fan. There's a band from Milwaukee called the Delta Routine. They're an original band. They're fantastic. I did some, I actually got to run Soundformer down at Mill Creek back in the day and they were excellent. Delta Routine. Very cool.
All right, so you met, I just want to, I don't want to forget this because I wanted to ask you, when you met Ace Freely. Yes. Gene Simmons. Yes. And you had them probably on a pedestal most of your life. What was that meeting like? Sometimes we don't want to meet our idols. Were they cool? Did they disappoint? Tell me. There was a funny story about the day that I met Ace Freely. So we did a.
I did an interview with, I got some good friends that work at APL too and they did a, they, they ended up doing an interview and they had Ace on, they brought up my name for this, talking about how we were opening up. So Ace acknowledged it, right? And he talked about, they said Annex and they're going to be, he's like, oh, they're going to open up, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it goes on and on. Well, I was told that some guitars got, they went missing that day of the show. So the tensions were really high. And then I remember I could hear through the walkie-talkies that, oh,
through the radios they said, the guitars are found, they're on their way to the venue. Immediately you heard everybody, ah, right? Well, I have a Gibson Les Paul Ace Fraley custom. It's his signature model. And I ended up getting that years back and being such a Kiss fan, he rarely signs guitars. It's a big deal for him to sign a guitar. And when we did that, when we did that, that show,
The promoter, Ryan VanderSand, pulled me aside. He said, come on in. And Ace is just sitting in there, and it was just me and Ace. And I was terrified, just shaking. He signed my guitar, came up, and he introduced himself to me, saying, oh, hey, I'm Ace. And I was just like, I didn't want to say, like, I know. But yeah, it was fantastic. Kind of disarming in a way, like that he was so normal.
He'll never be normal in my eyes. He's like, he's a space ace. He's like superhero to me. All right, Paul Hanna is here in the studio, local guitar badass. I think that's what we could call Paul or if you have something that I'm fine with that too. But he's going to play something when we come back. I'll finish reading your text and we will wrap this thing up. This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
God, make sure I don't skip a text here. Craig Canett checks in on the stream and says, Mad Max, the road warrior and Clint Eastwood as the man with no name, the Western Trilogy. Yeah, that's a great one too. Fistful of dollars. I couldn't even name the whole trilogy right now, but that's a great one. And then Steve from Florida says, favorite movie character, Rocky Balboa and TV show character, Barney Fife. Oh, those are great too. Thank you, Steve. Well, your dad and I.
We're totally on the same page last night. Yes. I think we can pal around. Annie from Watertown says 399 on Vimeo. Steel big, steel little. Thank you, Annie. Check it out. Todd Alba's favorite. That was his popcorn pick of the week tonight. And then Steady Eddie chimes in and says, Pete, concerning your missing shirt. Sometimes a shirt will run away from home if it feels neglected. I'm not judging you, Pete, but try leaving a small saucer of fabric softener on your back porch. In a few days, I think your long lost rag stock
Wow, he listens hard. Your long lost rag stock will find its way back home purring like a kitten. Favorite movie character, Humphrey Bogart, Rick in Castle Blanket. That is awesome. Of all the radio stations in the world, I tune into your show, Mr. Schwabba. Here's looking at you, Pete and Conrad on YouTube. Is that Eddie watches on YouTube? I guess so. He's referencing my shirt, so. Who was that masked man in the pink tutu? With the cowboy hat, steady Eddie, that was...
the one and only Todd Alba. That was a blast. And then Jack finally from Merrimack says, my favorite movie character is Brett Maverick. It's played by James Garner. I realized that's really a TV character, but Garner also played Maverick's Pappy in the movie. He did a great job with both. Yes, he did, Jack. Jack from Merrimack. I have not seen that movie in so long, but I did see it. Everybody, thank you for the texts. Thank you to Todd Alba tonight, and thank you.
to my guest who is in the studio with me right now, helping me close things down here. Paul Hanna, this is fun, man. Great to have you here. It's great to be here. Thanks again. What do you like? Obviously, you've had your band Annex forever. Was it weird the first time you thought, I got to do something different? I mean, you're going to play with another band or do a solo thing or...
Do they get weird about it or do they know everybody needs to do that and you're coming back or what? I didn't stop anything with with Annex. The only time that I was exclusively gone was when I was with Hairball because it was such a I mean that was a that was a serious tour where we had a we were gone pretty much for almost six months straight in a bus. So I mean it was that I had to cancel my whole summer for but when I was with Flip that was an original band and we played
We didn't play a ton of shows, but the shows that we did do were very memorable. And they were one of my favorite, they were up there as far as one of my favorite bands that I've ever loved. And to be asked to join this band was, that was a huge honor for me.
That's excellent. I got two more quick questions for you. Of course. Then you're going to play us out. And I love that. You said in an article I read that less Paul guitars are so rock and roll and so meat and potatoes. What does that mean? What does meat and potatoes mean as it pertains to guitars? Well, in the 80s, there was a guy that made a whammy bar system. And it's called the Floyd Rose.
It's what Eddie Van Halen used, where they could do the dive. They could dive all the way down. And there's a bunch of different companies that made all this stuff. There's guitars where you can tap the humbucker to make it a single coil pickup. There's a lot of stuff that you can alter. You can do underneath the hood, right? To me, Les Pauls.
Primarily, they're using the same technology that they did from the 50s. Right. Because it works. It's just a chunk of wood that sounds fantastic with some good pickups. It gets the job done. It gets the job done. All right, last question for you. We were talking before about, I was talking about kids in my neighborhood said, it's freely Jimmy Page. None of them knew what they were talking about. You know what you're talking about. Who's the greatest guitarist if you had to pick someone of all time? Oh, that's a tough one. I am.
I struggle with that because I feel like there's so many different I mean Steve Ray Vaughn is up there for doing what he did the Texas style blues I mean that he he killed it like he was the one that was a monster lover boys one of my favorite tunes of all time. Yeah, and I think that there's you know, I'm one of my favorite bands of all time is called data and they're from California, but they
They're just a monster trio, and that guitar player's name is Mike Gurley. He's a fantastic player, and he's a huge influence on me with that, too. That's interesting. Maybe, guys, we've never even heard of that you have, because you're in the mix. All right, I want to close this down, because I really want you to play again, and thank you again for bringing your guitar. Thank you. Paul Hannah's going to play us out. Thank you to my guests. Thank you for all the texts. Good night, Wisconsin. Thanks for having me. This one's called...
This one's called under.