Live Music with Paul Hanna (Hour 2)

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Live Music with Paul Hanna (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu Mar 6, 2025

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who does his own stunts, Pete Chwaba.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

To hour number two of this Thursday edition is the Christmas Eve of weekdays, a Thursday night here in the beautiful state of Wisconsin Broadcasting live from downtown Green Bay.

Man, we are having fun here tonight.

And I have to say, it's the popcorn pick of the week.

We just heard Todd Alba's popcorn pick of the week.

It was Steel Big, Steel Little, and Andy Garcia movie.

He's, if you're watching on the stream, he's holding up the DVD.

I don't know if...

you kids remember what a DVD is.

I know

I do, because I still love

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DVDs and I still have a whole bunch of them.

I just don't know what to do with them anymore.

Todd, we have, this is great, Brian from Milwaukee says, OMG, Todd, I totally agree.

Patrick Harris was great.

And

then

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this is a great, I love this one.

Dave from the 626.

I think that's Pasadena.

He says, had to laugh.

Listening to your show in LA, I worked on Steel Big, Steel Little.

Get out.

And he went to high school with Greg Liana, my sometime writing partner who Greg and I have sold some movies together.

See?

How is that?

Todd Allbaugh

That's insane.

And by the way, Pasadena is truly one of my favorite cities in America.

It's a beautiful, beautiful city.

And it feels so homey out there in Pasadena.

But thank you for calling it because, again, I think it's just an underappreciated film.

And it was written as a comedy.

And it's one of those movies where you have to just suspend and say, OK, I get this isn't reality, but it's fantasy.

Just let your mind go with it.

Appreciate the little tiny messages.

laugh at a little slapstick and have fun.

Pete Schwaba

And like you said, we all have movies like that that we're just not considered really good movies, but we like them.

Annie, on the stream, or on the text says, OK, old lady question, how to stream your show.

See, everybody wants to tune in now and see Todd.

Conrad, give us a quick, very brief tutorial, if you would please.

Yeah, so if you go on Facebook, wander nightly with Pete Schwabba, WGBW or WISS.

On YouTube, it's Civic Media or WGBW.

Or Twitter, it's Civic Media or WGBW.

Pete Schwaba

I actually knew that, but Conrad does it much better than I do.

Todd Allbaugh

I'm the same way as I have Zomers.

I'm an analog guy living in the digital world, so I just have him.

And by the way, before we go any further, can I just say please?

the promo that you guys have put together.

I'm guessing Conrad did this.

There's promo with you and Dr. Liarley talking about rubbing yourself at night.

I mean, your feet.

If that doesn't win a Wisconsin Broadcaster Association Award for best promo of the year, then they ought to just shut the damn awards down

Pete Schwaba

because it's

Todd Allbaugh

the best promo we've had all year.

Well done, Conrad.

Pete Schwaba

All

Todd Allbaugh

right.

Pete Schwaba

that's fantastic well thank you sir and i liked your netflix and chill one ran for a while and we had a lot of fun with that one too that was outstanding so that was my

Todd Allbaugh

own stupid that was real to you

Pete Schwaba

maybe that would be like the bracket of the 64 we'll our two promos we'll square out uh here's another text from andrew and main he says pete just logging into the live stream and i fully appreciate your ability to accurately describe Todd's outfit for the radio listeners outstanding buddy um all right

Todd Allbaugh

so just a ronoh and squirt is the drink of choice right now if you've never tried it what

Disarono, it's an amaretto.

And my friend Kurt introduced me to this at a Christmas party probably 15 years ago.

Two shots of disarono over ice and then squirt.

It's killer.

Oh my God, it's fantastic.

Pete Schwaba

So you got Maker's Mark there next to you.

You said I think you said he's half gone.

That was the appetizer.

I can't wait to hear you tomorrow.

It's going to be fun.

Alright, are you watching anything, Todd?

Do you binge watch series too, or are you mostly a movie guy?

Todd Allbaugh

Thank you so very much for asking.

I'm a big Star Trek guy, Picard.

I thought that was a great series and it was over.

I came real late, well, to the streaming series of Ted Lasso.

My assistant, and I prolonged that for months because I didn't want it to end.

I think one of the best series ever.

And I'm a little nervous they're gonna come out with a season four now because I don't know how you recreate that magic.

I was a big Ted Lasso fan.

But my movie or my movie, my show of choice right now for all of us broadcasting people of a certain age, like broadcast TV.

I know you mentioned earlier about the FBI series and

all

Todd Allbaugh

that, some of these top shows being canceled.

And I mentioned earlier, Kelly Call, originally from Burlington, Wisconsin, a longtime president of CBS Entertainment that helped him get to number one in some of these great series.

And there's a new and I'll be honest, I don't like all of them, but this new one NCIS Origins.

NCIS origins on CBS.

I think it's on Monday nights,

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huh?

Todd Allbaugh

I I DVR and that's this versus Oh, whatever.

I'm a quarter on YouTube TV, whatever it is.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah,

Todd Allbaugh

and I watched it my leisure But it's an origin story of your Gibbs or a longtime character on the original and

yeah

Todd Allbaugh

or NCI it goes back to like his story and the reason I like it is it takes place in the early 90s and So there are no cell phones.

There's no it's much it relies much more on the writing

and the acting and old time crime settling or solving

stuff.

And

Todd Allbaugh

not so much in all the computers.

And I find it well written and well acted.

So NCIS Origins on CBS.

my new series on TV.

Pete Schwaba

Very cool.

My wife watches the NCIS and I just when that origins came out, I just kind of was like, it's another NCIS.

But that sounds cool.

Like if they would do a better job of it, like sometimes there's so many spin offs, it's like, oh my God, like I've seen it before.

I'm

Todd Allbaugh

exactly like you.

And I forget they, of course, these programming people are so smart.

They made it the premier come on after something else I was watching.

I can't remember sports event or something.

Maybe

Todd Allbaugh

it was like the NFC championship.

I don't know.

But whatever it was or more of an AFC on CBS.

But anyway, I literally thought to myself, I don't need this.

You understand me?

I don't need another show.

I don't need, especially the NCA.

This has been done already.

I don't want to watch it.

I don't want to like it.

And of course, my social life had nothing else to do.

So I just left it on.

And I'm like, well, crap, now I like

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it.

You gave it a chance and now here you are.

And because it's really good.

That's fantastic.

Hey, dude, this is so much fun.

Thank you for raising the bar.

Going the extra mile, whatever you want to call it.

Todd Allbaugh

For you, Pete, the world.

Pete Schwaba

Who do you have coming up tomorrow?

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, tomorrow we've got Brady Ewing, who will not be to do, I'll guarantee you.

He is one of the best fullbacks to ever put on the University of Wisconsin football uniform.

He won three big 10 championships, went for a walk on this freshman year in our Mutual Hometown Richland Center to the team captain this senior year with the likes of Russell Wilson and Aaron Henry.

They went to three Rose Bowls, won three big 10 championships.

The Brady spent three years in the NFL.

And now he's back helping coach high school.

and he does some speaking to kids.

I wouldn't call it motivational, it's just life coaching.

So he'll be on, we'll talk a little bit about the Badgers, they have a big game on Saturday.

We'll talk Badger basketball and life and whatever.

And Mike Clemens does a great job reporting off.

By the way, my costume tonight is on loan from Mike Clemens closet.

So that's fun.

Mike just has this stuff laid around.

I

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said, we'll go

Todd Allbaugh

ahead and borrow it.

And he said,

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sure.

He's going to be here tomorrow night.

So I'll run that by him just to make sure you're on the up and

Todd Allbaugh

up.

Mike is a fantastic

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man.

And we're

Todd Allbaugh

so lucky to have him.

He's a pro's pro, unlike the person you're talking

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to.

No, we're lucky to have you, buddy.

Thank you so much for your time tonight.

Keep you and Aaron.

Keep doing a great job.

Oh, yeah.

One more quick text from Andrew and Maine.

He says, I might pay to see the Todd Allah show with Brady and Brandon Ewing in two twos.

Just try, just ask Todd.

All they can do is say no.

Todd Allbaugh

All we can do is, we can ask, we can ask.

Pete Schwaba

You never know.

Buddy, thank you so much.

Have a great night.

Cheers to

Todd Allbaugh

my friends, cheers to all of you.

We'll keep listening.

You guys do a great job.

Pete Schwaba

Take it easy there.

Party safely.

And by the

Todd Allbaugh

way, we gotta get you on our show.

Are you represented by CAA these days?

Who do we have to contact?

Pete Schwaba

They dropped me a long time ago.

Just send me a snail mail or a... I'm old school.

Send me your VHS and a snail mail.

We'll work it out anytime, buddy.

I'm here for ya.

Alright, thank you.

Alright, cool, thanks Todd.

Yeah, thanks.

That's Todd Alba.

Check his show out every day here on the network from noon to 2 p.m.

Such a great job.

And I can say this now that he's gone.

It won't sound like I'm blowing smoke or anything.

But when I started doing this, I listened to all these civic media hosts.

And Todd was one of the first ones I met.

In fact, I was telling that story that he was one of the first guys I met.

And then I looked up and saw him in the tutu in the cowboy hat.

And I totally lost my train of thought.

Big props to Todd.

Thank you, buddy.

We got to read some text con read.

Yeah.

I gotta see if I can scroll back here.

Our question of the night, folks.

You still got time to get in on this.

Who is your favorite movie character?

Today is the day of the dude.

As you know, or maybe you don't know, the dude is Jeffrey Lebowski, the big Lebowski, one of my all-time favorite films.

Check it out.

And so it got me thinking, what is your favorite character in movie history?

And we've heard some great ones so far.

Who else have we heard here a counter at doing it again?

I'm looking at your messages instead of the text.

Yeah Pete where's the water like it's like you're I'm not even on the right page here Here's a Brian from Milwaukee says Pete don't feel bad.

I self-cuddled to Until the man of my dreams comes along.

I hate being single now Brian.

I don't listen Brian I don't self-cutting self-cuddling for those of you just tuning in who weren't listening last week I noticed it a lot of people rub their feet together when they watch TV

And in my house, outside the house, wherever, on a plane, people rub their feet together.

It's what they do.

They don't do that for other body.

Well, you don't sit there and rub your shoulder or your head.

So I called it self-cuddling, and apparently a lot of people chimed in.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely had fun with that one, as we heard.

So you self-cuddle as long as you want, Brian.

There are no rules to self-cuddling.

And listen, even if you do meet the man of your dreams, you can still cuddle yourself.

You probably still have to from time to time.

Sherry from Horikon says, oh, we're way backed up here, buddy.

She says, good evening, Pete and Todd.

You did not get a hello from Sherry Conrad.

I'm sure it was an oversight.

Brian, hello, Sherry.

Hope you're having a great night.

Brian from Milwaukee says, Ernest scared stupid.

Ernest saves Chris.

All right, I'm not even gonna finish that text, Brian.

I know you're kidding.

But Ernest is a movie character.

That's legit.

Doesn't he have like 17 different movies?

He does.

And Brian says, it's Ernest P. Whirl, played by Jim Varney.

I remember Jim Varney.

Loved all his various characters.

And of course, Brian from Milwaukee.

Guy from Free Guy.

Do you know that, Conrad?

That's a Ryan Reynolds character.

I'm so done with Ryan Reynolds.

Pete Schwaba

I knew you

were going to say that.

He needs to go away.

Honest

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to God.

Go sell your mint and your cell phones and all that other crap.

Make a good movie.

How does that sound?

Actually, the free guy was hilarious.

I think it was a phenomenal movie.

You should watch it.

I'm not saying he's capable.

He's made

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good movies.

I just think he's done making good movies.

All right, guy from free guy.

I like that.

Thank you, Elliott.

Thanks for the text.

Aaron, this is, that's Aaron.

Jim from Kenosha says, Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride, you kill my father, prepare to die.

Great character, Jim.

There's another one too.

Wesley is a great character from Princess Bride.

I like the actual Princess Bride.

I always had a kind of a crush on Robin Wright.

Tony, the trucker chimes in.

He's in the 608.

He says, Pete, got to be Uncle Buck.

Who wouldn't want

to hang with him?

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That's a great one.

Yes.

That was not on my list either.

I love it.

And then 920 says Derp.

Sorry.

That's Mary from Green Bay.

Did we miss?

Did she say?

I think

she wanted to

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change her answer or something?

I don't know.

Anna from Madison checks in and says, hi, Pete and Conrad.

Conrad, I'm impressed with your organizational skills.

My

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favorite movie character is Del Griffith, John Candy from Plains, Trains and Automobiles.

That's another great one.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

We'll read them on the radio.

Coming up next, local guitar badass.

Paul Hanna joins me here in the studio.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Hey, this is John Gries, also Uncle Rico, and you're listening to Nightlight of Peach

Waba.

Welcome back.

Pete Schwaba

We

got

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a Steady Eddie text here.

Let's save that one, Conn.

Steady Eddie wrote a long one.

We'll get to that one a little later.

You still have time to text up if you want who's your favorite all-time movie character in honor of the day of the dude the big Lebowski That's the question of the night right now.

I'm excited to welcome my next guest here tonight light for the first time He is a Northeast Wisconsin based singer-songwriter Paul Hannah Paul welcome.

Thanks for having me.

This is so great, man I it's always fun to meet someone new and have them in the studio as well And you found the place.

Okay.

You said you've been here before.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Do you live in Green Bay?

Yes, sir

Nice.

Born and raised, right?

Yeah, born and raised.

Fantastic.

All right, so I feel like people listening, and I got to get this out of the way, a shout out to Matt Harper for introducing me to Paul, because Matt's been on the show a couple of times.

How do you guys know each other?

I've met Matt through doing some shows and stuff.

He's been a huge supporter of the stuff that I've been doing.

He's been saying a lot of positive things, so that's great.

I'm glad he's supporting what I'm doing.

Pete Schwaba

That's excellent.

Just give us some background.

For people that are listening that might not have heard of you, can you give us some background?

Just kind of let us know a little bit about how you got into this racket.

Who you are.

Green Bay native.

My brother and I started the band when we were, I mean, we were kids, middle school at Washington.

Pete Schwaba

This is Annex.

Yeah, okay, cool.

And he, my brother Craig plays drums in the band and we...

essentially waited till I graduated from high school.

I was playing about four nights a week when I was in high school.

And then when I graduated in 96, we hit the road, traveled all over the country, did that until about 2003.

Our bass player at that time, he passed away in a motorcycle accident, Tommy Steinbrecher Jr.

And since then, we've been doing a benefit every year.

We raise a bunch of money for instruments and give those to kids while we do a show.

And we used to do it at Riverside Ballroom.

It's been at a couple of different places.

Riverside was kind of our mainstay for a while, but now we've switched it up and we started doing shows at Epic.

Pete Schwaba

Oh,

nice.

And doing some stuff over there.

And it's such a great stage.

I mean, everyone that works there has been so great.

Pete Schwaba

It's supposed to be like for musicians.

Is it like an amazing setup with acoustics and all this?

It's a great

place to play.

It was very well thought out.

There's a lot of places around where you might go in and yeah, maybe the hall is awesome and it sounds fantastic.

Maybe the backstage area isn't what some other places are.

When you walk in there, they have a huge ramp.

The loading dock is fantastic.

So for anyone that's traveling and you've got a big rig,

They're set up for it, and they can really take care of it.

They have in-house sound there, security's all set up there, and yeah, they put a lot of

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thought into

it.

Pete Schwaba

This is so cool.

It's so obvious.

I love when someone's here and they talk inside baseball like you're covering all the stuff Most people listening don't think of oh, yeah, it's easy to haul your equipment in all that like you don't think of that stuff Yeah, you just hear the music or you think about the music.

That's great So you I just saw I think I just told you I was watching an interview you did with Frank Herman's on his WFR V shows Yeah, kind of a few years old, but he said that you've been doing this since high school and you kind of just touched on that

Were you traveling?

Were you working the road when you were that age?

What was that like?

Well, I hit the road when I was 18.

It was kind of crazy when I was 18 years old.

This is just one story.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff that happened, but one of them that went down actually in 97, we were playing in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and the whole bar burned down.

We almost died in it.

And we lost all of our equipment, lost everything, right?

Had to start from scratch.

We barely made it out, lost, like I said, all of the equipment, all the drums, the sound system, the PA, the light show, everything.

And I didn't... This is me to my core.

I haven't done anything really aside from just playing music.

That's just always been what I've done.

And so there was...

that stretch where we had to rebuild after the fire.

We basically loaded up the, we had a van at that time, loaded up the van full of equipment.

We had the drums and all of, we had a suitcase packed with about a week's worth of clothes.

And we would travel for months and we would come back for about two weeks.

And then we go down self and do that, go down there

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and play for

two months.

And then

Dip over to you know, it was just we were constantly being routed around the country and it was all But this is a different time too when I was when I graduated in 96 a lot of the venues had

they would have you there for six, seven nights in a row.

So it's not like one-nighters like it is now.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, which is brutal.

Especially if you're a musician, you got all that equipment.

It's funny, I did stand up in the 90s and worked all over and it was always fun.

Like sometimes they do a comedy show, then the band would come up.

So we always ended up kind of partying with the band and I was always so envious.

I always just wanted to sing and be in a band.

I thought that was like the coolest thing ever.

And little did I know I was kind of doing the coolest thing ever that I always wanted to do.

But another comic says to me, are you serious?

You want to unload?

They're not getting out of here till four o'clock in the morning with all that equipment they got.

And I was like, oh yeah, OK, maybe comedy's not so bad because it's a lot of work, right?

Oh, we used to do.

I did spring break every year.

They had a venue called Club La Vela.

They would do spring break.

MTV was always there.

They always had, it was a really big, huge place.

I think it held like 7,000 people.

It was just a huge club.

Pool inside the whole deal.

But we used to get done down there at 3.30 in the morning.

Load the van.

And then drive straight through to get back home because we hadn't slept in our own beds for two months It was just inspiration to get back home, right?

Pete Schwaba

I hope people listening realize like the dedication to your craft into your art into what you do a lot of people wouldn't do that But all you want to do is play music and especially when you're that age.

I think that's fantastic.

It's uh, you know, it's uh The music thing is uh, it's just it's it's never

let me down, it's never cheated on me, it's never

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left me, you know?

It's always been there.

So it's been, it's a great relationship.

That's

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excellent.

All right, that's the voice of Paul Hannah.

We'll come back.

He's going to play something for us.

And we have a little surprise for Paul coming out of the break.

You're not going to want to miss this.

Civic Media's news team is about to tell you what you need to know.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Paul Hanna is here in the studio.

I heard you were a Big Kiss fan.

I did my research and I want to tell you that my first album I bought when I was a kid was an album called Machine Head by Deep Purple.

Yeah.

And I walked to Sears in my neighborhood in Chicago.

Me and my brother probably had no business being that far away from home, but just to buy Deep Purple.

And that was my second album I owned was Destroyer.

So I love that I found out that you were a huge Kiss fan and I haven't listened to much in recent years, but you got to play with them.

I got to play with Ace, I think it was like three or four times, and then Gene, I did one show with.

Yeah, it was pretty cool.

And

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Ace is your idol, right?

Or it was when you were

younger?

Yeah, growing up, he was such an influence watching it.

When I'd see those videos as a kid, it just ruined me.

You know, like I'd see him, I'm like, I gotta do that.

I gotta be that guy.

Pete Schwaba

That's so great.

I remember as a kid too, like some kids in the neighborhood were like, thought they knew it all.

And so we hear KISS and they go, Ace Freely or Jimmy Page?

Maybe Ace Freely over here?

None of them are new.

anything about what they were talking

about.

But

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they just love their guy, you know.

So

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Paul Hannah is here.

He is a Northeast Wisconsin based singer-songwriter and he's the front man for the band Annex.

And he is in the studio right now with his guitar and he's going to play something for us, which is so fantastic.

What are you thinking, buddy?

Awesome.

I'm going to do a song called New Morning.

I wrote this song with one of my best friends Chad Rice Lager and it was super funny because we used to back in the day.

You know, we trade off cassette tapes, but now you can text ideas.

He was actually in India when we wrote this song.

So we were going back and forth and he was across the across the world.

So it's pretty neat.

Fantastic.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

What's it called?

It's called New Morning.

New Morning, Paul Hannah on

Nightlight.

This new

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New morning new morning.

Love it.

How old is that song is that something new

or that's It's not super super new.

Okay, maybe I don't know six seven years something like that maybe

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you um So we talked about ace freely.

Yeah, I know you've played with cheap trick and those guys you can obviously really rock You also list Don Felder as one of your influences.

I think you did in one of you or you played with them

Played

dead

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show with Frank Hermans.

This was kind of more of a cool, almost sounded like you can't always get what you want type.

What's your choice to play?

Do you like the head bang?

Do you like to play it more chill?

What's your favorite stuff to play?

I just love melody.

So if it's rocking and there's a melody, I'm in.

If it's mellow and there's a melody,

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I'm in.

Was there a moment like when you started, I think you said.

I read something that said you were like nine years old when you started playing the guitar.

Was there a moment where you were like, I have to play that.

I have to learn how to do that.

Were you watching someone?

Did someone put it in your hands?

My

mother took me to see the movie, La Bamba.

And I will never

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forget.

I

will never forget it for as long as I live.

You gotta find that song, La Bamba.

When I was younger, my mom took me to see that movie and I'm sure the week before I said I wanted to be an astronaut or I wanted to be a lawyer or a doctor or whatever I was going to say that week.

But after that happened, I looked at my mom and I said, I want a guitar and I'm going to do that because I watched everyone, they just freaked out and that song for some reason, it just, it hit me.

It affected me.

It's one of

Pete Schwaba

those songs that when it comes on.

Yeah.

No one goes, oh, this again.

They just love it.

It's iconic.

That's so cool.

You were talking about Tommy's benefit before.

Yes.

Do you want to just, in case people just tune in, tell us what that is again and where they can find out more information about it?

Because I don't know that we covered that.

So we are now linked in with the Greater Green Bay Community Foundation, which is they've got their website.

And you can hop on that with and there's a link that you can find the Tommy It's called the Tommy foundation We've been doing this since 2003 he passed on June 14th of 2003 and since then we've been doing We used to do it around There was a there was a couple different shows that we did but now we do it right around his birthday which lands right around it's right around Thanksgiving and we've been doing it consecutively.

I mean

COVID through a wrench that year and there was a couple that we weren't able to do when I was touring with hairball and such but The the event has gone, you know every year and We essentially I don't want to ruin the surprise too much But we get these kids to come up and jam and they're usually very young children, you know, they're they're kids and they they come in and we find students that necessarily maybe they're

their parents can't afford to get them a brand new Les Paul or a new drum set.

And we have those instruments up on stage.

They think they're just coming up to play.

And then that night they walk away with a new drum set or a new guitar.

But we do, we give away all that stuff in front of a, you know, right around, you know, 1500 people.

So it's pretty cool.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

That's really cool.

I'm a novice.

I own a guitar I've had for 40 years.

It's an old beat up applause.

So I don't know anything about guitars.

So forgive me if I got this wrong, but I was reading an article about you and it sounded like you said you picked up a Les Paul.

But the way the article was written, did you learn on an electric guitar or acoustic?

So my first guitar I ever got was a nylon string harmony that my parents got from Mecca Music here in Green Bay when they were still open.

And I got that for Christmas.

And I played that.

For quite some time and then I switched to an electric Excuse me, I always say to two people they should start out on acoustic right get used to playing quote-unquote cowboy chords and learn you know the fundamentals to what the guitar kind of is and then When you get an electric it's a it's a completely different beast.

It really is

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is our Those are killers on your nylon strings like those will give you like

Callus is worse than steel strings, right?

Um, I feel like it's no I feel like the nylon string is more kind of like it's like you're it's got fishing line, you know for that top three strings They they have a different tone completely but Yeah, when you get into the phosphor bronze like an acoustic it they'll they'll rip your they'll rip your your fingers right apart

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You talked about epic Riverside.

Do you have a favorite like if you could play one gig?

in the Green Bay area or northeast Wisconsin, where would it be?

What venue do you absolutely love?

I feel like I've been very blessed.

We've got to play the Brown County Arena, which is where I saw my first rock concert ever.

I got to play the rush.

I opened up for Ted Nuget and Stick Scenario when they were there.

I did a solo thing for that.

But Epic is...

They all kind of have their own thing.

You know, the rush is so big and so ginormous.

It's very intimidating to say the least, but Epic has laid out so well.

I just have, it's tough not to go with Epic, but yeah, I mean, it's such a great venue.

Yeah,

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exactly.

Do you have a favorite band that you like to watch a lot?

Like when you're out in the town and you see someone's playing, who do you like?

Oh, I gotta go see them.

As far as local?

Yeah, just

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local.

Northeast Wisconsin or Wisconsin in general.

I'm a big fan.

There's a band from Milwaukee called the Delta Routine.

They're an original band.

They're fantastic.

I did some, I actually got to run Soundformer down at Mill Creek back in the day and they were excellent.

Delta Routine.

Very

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cool.

All right, so you met, I just want to, I don't want to forget this because I wanted to ask you, when you met Ace Freely.

Yes.

Gene Simmons.

Yes.

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And you had them probably on a pedestal most of your life.

What was that meaning like?

Sometimes we don't want to meet our idols.

Were they cool?

Did they disappoint?

Tell me.

There was a funny story about the day that I met Ace Freely.

So we did a.

I did an interview with, I got some good friends that work at APL too, and they did a, they ended up doing an interview and they had Ace on, they brought up my name for this, talking about how we were opening up.

So Ace acknowledged it, right?

And he talked about it, they said Annex and he's like, oh, they're gonna open up, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it goes on and on.

Well, I was told that some guitars got, they went missing that day of the show, so the tensions were really high.

And then I remember I could hear through the walkie-talkies that, oh.

through the radios they said, the guitars are found, they're on their way to the venue.

Immediately you heard everybody, ah, right?

Well, I have a Gibson Les Paul Ace Fraley custom.

It's his signature model.

And I ended up getting that years back and being such a Kiss fan, he rarely signs guitars.

It's a big deal for him to sign a guitar.

And when we did that, when we did that show,

The promoter, Ryan VanderSand, pulled me aside.

He said, come on in.

And Ace is just sitting in there, and it was just me and Ace.

And I was terrified, just shaking.

He signed my guitar, came up, and he introduced himself to me, saying, oh, hey, I'm Ace.

And I was just like, I didn't want to say, like, I know.

But yeah, it was fantastic.

Kind

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of disarming in a way, like that he was so

normal.

He'll never be normal in my eyes.

He's like, he's a space ace.

He's like superhero to me.

All

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right, Paul Hanna is here in the studio, local guitar badass.

I think that's what we could call Paul, or if you have something better, I'm fine with that too.

But he's going to play something when we come back.

I'll finish reading your text, and we will wrap this thing up.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

All

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right, Khan, make sure I don't skip a text here.

Craig Canett checks in on the stream and says, Mad Max, the road warrior, and Clint Eastwood as the man with no name, the Western Trilogy.

Yeah, that's a great one too.

Fistful of dollars.

I couldn't even name the whole trilogy right now, but.

That's a great one.

And then Steve from Florida says favorite movie character Rocky Balboa and TV show character Barney Fife.

Oh, those are great, too.

Thank you, Steve.

Well, your dad and I were totally on the same page last

night.

Yes.

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I think we could pal around.

Annie from Watertown says 399 on Vimeo.

Steel big, steel little.

Thank you, Annie.

Check it out.

Todd Alba's favorite.

That was his popcorn pick of the week tonight.

And then Steady Eddie chimes in and says, Pete, concerning your missing shirt.

Sometimes a shirt will run away from home if it feels neglected.

I'm not judging you, Pete, but try leaving a small saucer of fabric softener on your back porch.

In a few days, I think your long lost rag stock.

Wow, he listens hard.

Your long lost rag stock will find its way back home purring like a kitten.

Favorite movie character, Humphrey Bogart, Rick, in Castle Blanket, that is awesome.

Of all the radio stations in the world, I tune into your show, Mr. Schwabba.

Here's looking at you, Pete, and Conrad on YouTube.

Is that Eddie Watches on YouTube?

I guess so.

He's referencing my shirt, so.

Who was that masked man in the pink tutu?

What the cowboy hat, steady Eddie?

That was...

the one and only Todd Alba.

That was a blast.

And then Jack finally from Merrimack says, my favorite movie character is Brett Maverick.

It's played by James Garner.

I realized that's really a TV character, but Garner also played Maverick's Pappy in the movie.

He did a great job with both.

Yes, he did, Jack.

Jack from Merrimack.

I have not seen that movie in so long, but I did see it.

Everybody, thank you for the texts.

Thank you to Todd Alba tonight, and thank you.

to my guest who is in the studio with me right now, helping me close things down here.

Paul Hanna, this is fun, man.

Great to have you here.

It's great to be here.

Thanks again.

Pete Schwaba

What do you like?

Obviously, you've had your band, Annex Forever.

Was it weird the first time you thought, I got to do something different?

I mean, you're going to play with another band or do a solo thing or...

Do they get weird about it or do they know everybody needs to do that and you're coming back or what?

I didn't stop anything with with Annex.

The only time that I was exclusively gone was when I was with Hairball because it was such a I mean that was a that was a serious tour where we had a we were gone pretty much for almost six months straight in a bus.

So I mean it was that I had to cancel my whole summer for but when I was with Flip that was an original band and we we played

We didn't play a ton of shows, but the shows that we did do were very memorable.

And they were one of my favorite, they were up there as far as one of my favorite bands that I've ever loved.

And to be asked to join this band was, that was a huge honor for me.

That's

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excellent.

I got two more quick questions for you.

Of course.

Then you're going to play us out.

And I love that.

You said in an article I read that less Paul guitars are so rock and roll and so meat and potatoes.

What does that mean?

What does meat and potatoes mean as it pertains to guitars?

Well, in the 80s, there was a guy that made a whammy bar system.

And it's called the Floyd Rose.

It's what Eddie Van Halen used, where they could do the dive.

They could dive all the way down.

And there's a bunch of different companies that made all this stuff.

There's guitars where you can tap the humbucker to make it a single coil pickup.

There's a lot of stuff that you can alter.

You can do underneath the hood, right?

To me, Les Pauls.

primarily they're using the same technology that they did from the 50s.

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Right.

Because it works.

It's just a chunk of wood that sounds fantastic with some good pickups.

It's the

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job done.

It gets the job done.

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All right, last question for you.

We were talking before about, I was talking about kids in my neighborhood said, it's freely Jimmy Page.

None of them knew what they were talking about.

You know what you're talking about.

Who's the greatest guitarist if you had to pick someone of all time?

Oh, that's a tough one.

I am.

I struggle with that because I feel like there's so many different.

I mean, Steve Ray Vaughan is up there for doing what he did.

The Texas style blues.

I mean, he he killed it.

Like he was the one that was a monster.

Lover

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boys are my favorite tunes of all time.

Yeah.

And I think that there's, you know, I'm one of my favorite bands of all time is called Dada.

And they're from California, but they

They're just a monster trio and that guitar player's name is Mike Gurley.

He's a fantastic player and he's a huge influence on me with that too.

Pete Schwaba

That's interesting.

Maybe guys we've never even heard of that you have because you're in the mix.

So all right, I want to close this down because I really want you to play again and thank

you

Pete Schwaba

again for bringing your

guitar.

Pete Schwaba

Paul Hannah is going to play us out.

Thank you to my guests.

Thank you for all the texts.

Good night, Wisconsin.

Thanks for having me.

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