Pete Cobbler (Hour 1)

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Pete Cobbler (Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Feb 26, 2025

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabach.

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And now, a guy who likes pina coladas but hates getting caught in the rain, Pete Schwabach.

Let's

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light

it.

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Let's do it.

Welcome to Nightlight, ladies and gentlemen.

Happy Wednesday, everybody.

Great to have you with me.

And what I like to call a jam-packed show.

It is Wednesday night in the state of Wisconsin where we are broadcasting live from beautiful downtown Green Bay.

The K-man is riding shotgun.

How you doing, Conrad?

I'm doing great.

So you should see an envelope in front of you.

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Okay.

Yeah, I see it.

Okay.

What the

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hell is

this?

So it's a... It's letter to an elder day?

So I wrote you a letter.

Pete Schwaba

What am I supposed to read this on the air?

Yeah, you can read it.

No dirty words?

No, no dirty words.

Okay.

It's addressed to Pete Cobbler.

Yeah, I should explain.

It's a... There was a girl in college.

I wish I could remember her name, but she used to call me... She thought my name was Peach Cobbler.

They were saying Peach Wabba fast.

a fellow comedian in Chicago in the early 90s, John Regi, who went on to become a phenomenal writer and was a great standup, used to think my name sounded like a dessert, Peach Waba.

But this girl in college, I thought was the funniest.

And she said, what's your name?

I said, Peach Waba.

And she goes, dang, I thought it was Peach Cobbler.

So Conrad addressed the letter to me as Peach Cobbler.

It is national letter.

to an elder day.

I am quite a bit older than you.

You're about 10 years older.

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I'm more immature, though, ironically.

It says Conrad writes, dear Pete, it's national, write a letter to an elder day.

I thought I would write you this letter in honor of this day.

But who writes letters anymore?

So I will stop it here.

Sincerely, the lovable producer, Con.

Boy, you can't fake a motion like that, Conrad.

I'll tell you.

It's a nice gesture and I love how much effort you put into the actual letter.

It's a beautiful thing.

Thank you, buddy.

I appreciate that.

All right, so I see, so the bar has been raised on these national days.

We'll see how we can, and this letter was right here, turned around though.

So I thought it was Jim Schmidt, because Jim and I share a chair.

So I thought that was like one of his former mayor letters.

All right, so that's a good way to start the show.

Yeah, yeah.

Pete Cobbler.

If this was like the 80s, and I was a music DJ, I'd probably go with a name like that, Pete Cobbler.

Or just Cobbler.

Nightlight with

Pete Cobbler.

Can't get any better than that.

Pete Schwaba

I don't think so.

So that's great.

So thank you for that.

And we have a good, you know, who do we have tonight, Conrad?

You want to tell people who we've got coming on?

We've got a great show tonight.

Yes, we do.

And...

I believe you said this year is on 1923 now, correct?

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Yeah, which just dropped, I believe, yesterday, season two, or it might have been Monday, actually.

I think it was February 24th, season two of 1923, a Taylor Sheridan show, which in my opinion, the two prequels, 1923 and 1883, blow Yellowstone out of the water, just much more interesting in my opinion, much less, you know, bad network TV drama-y, if that makes sense.

But yes, we have one of the actors from 1923 on, an old friend of mine, Conrad, if you would.

Yeah, Jamie McShane.

Jamie McShane will be back.

He was here several months ago.

And I'm going to ask Jamie what show he was working on.

Because remember, when he was on the show last time, I think he was joining us from Ireland.

And he said the project he was working on might be his favorite in his entire career so far.

So we have to press him on that a little bit.

We'll see if we can get him to talk.

And he plays kind of a bad guy.

on 1923, Marshall Kent.

So we'll talk to Jamie about that.

And then in hour number two at 720 Conrad, who do we have?

Or you're going to talk about Oscar nominations with the one, the only Rob Thomas from CityCast Madison.

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The lovely and talented Rob Thomas, Madison based film critic and a very good friend of ours here at Nightlight.

I figured, you know, the Oscars are literally right around the corner this Sunday.

And we've been talking to people at Nozium and we get

just a couple more opportunities to do that before the big event.

And then obviously we'll recap them next week with Matt Miller and Chris Foran from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

So that'll be fun.

But we're gonna suck every last little bit of entertainment out of the Oscars that we can.

Because I personally think it's a great year for the Oscars.

There are such a like a wide array of films that have been nominated for Best Picture.

I'm really, truly fascinated and I have no idea who's gonna win.

So I think that makes it kind of fun.

So there's your show tonight and we have, let's get to the question because last night, you guys were so great, I could barely keep up with all the texts coming in, which was a lot of fun actually.

I don't know that this will be as, I don't know that this will be as exciting as talking about soup, but it's something

that bothers

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me.

And Conrad, you're not there yet.

As you mentioned, I'm an elder when it comes to you.

And it really sucks.

Body maintenance.

Sucks as you get older.

It's tedious and you have to do it.

So that's my hint as We are about to ask tonight's question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Pete Schwaba

Okay question question

question Question question question question this question

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What aspect of bodily maintenance do you wish you didn't have to do?

What aspect of bodily maintenance do you wish you did not have to do?

I know for me I Actually kind of have two one is nose

hair,

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okay?

Nose hair is brutal You know because you buy these things and you have to sit there for like five minutes in each nostril I don't even have a lot of nose hair, but You got a trim it you can't go out with anything hanging out of your nose regardless of what it is especially a hair.

It's just disgusting

Ear hair is a pain in the butt, too.

But for some reason that doesn't bother me as much.

I don't like nose hair.

That is my least favorite bodily maintenance activity, and I have to do it about once a week.

The other thing I don't like to do is cut my toenails, but you have to.

You do.

And you know, my approach is fresh out of the shower when they're wet.

But if I slack off on anything,

It's toenails because my feet are always covered.

Most of the time, even in the summer, even though I have really attractive feet, I don't like to show my dogs.

But I still keep them while groomed.

But every once in a while, if I slack off and anything, it's toenails, because nobody ever sees your feet.

But I would have to say nose hair.

What about you?

Do you even have this issue at all right now?

I

don't have...

nose hair at all, I don't think.

Might have a little bit, but

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it's not

bad.

I mean, if we're not just talking about cutting off hair, one thing that I'd like just to always, is my pits just to smell good all the time.

Just not have to wear deodorant, which would, that would be nice.

Just, they always just smell nice.

Pete Schwaba

Well, it's interesting because I don't have to do anything to my armpits.

Like, there's no real maintenance involved there, except putting on deodorant.

So I guess that counts.

There's just some inconvenience.

Like, maybe in college, I was running late to a class, so I'd start running a class, you know?

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Right.

And then I get to class, and I'm like,

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oh, do I stink?

Yeah.

And then, so I guess there's something like that.

Now it's like, I feel like I always carry deodorant with me.

So

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it doesn't really.

Just for

emergency.

There's always just one in

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my

car,

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just

in case.

But when I was just walking to classes,

Never really had it with

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me.

Yeah.

I feel like that would be a

good

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one.

All right.

Never have to wear deodorant.

Never have to wear deodorant.

It might be different for men and women.

I know for guys, manscaping is a pain.

I think, you know, we all have to do that from time to time.

So I kind of accept that as a given.

But for whatever reason, for me, it's nose hair.

I don't know what it is.

And I also don't, I'm kind of lazy about getting a haircut, a basic general haircut too.

I'll put that off.

You know, I actually really love getting haircuts.

Pete Schwaba

I don't mind it when I'm there.

Yeah, I just put it off.

Yeah, exactly.

So you're good about getting your hair cut.

You're pretty regular.

Well, I go to one that does the whole night, you know.

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You get a shave,

too?

Yeah, I mean, why not?

They shave your face when you're there?

They shave, cut my hair.

They give me that, you know, the washing of the hair.

Yeah.

and they give you a little massage thing too.

So it's like...

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I've been to those places.

I like that, but I will say I've never had a shave from a barber or a beautician or whatever.

I've never gotten a shave.

I don't think I've ever been offered one.

I don't really go to the really expensive salons, obviously, but...

They just cut it so fine, you know?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Can't do it like them.

No, that's true.

And there's something amazing about when someone else washes your hair.

It feels fantastic.

So let us know what you think folks 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5 Civic let me know What do you think or what your least favorite?

bodily maintenance duties are Yeah, I don't know it'll be interesting to see what kind of response we could you can let us know

at 855-75CIVIC or text us on the stream or on the app.

There are a lot of ways to get a hold of us, folks, but just get a hold of us.

And let's have a fun conversation about our bodies.

I think it's important.

Okay, so it's also, this is in the news too, that ban the tush push.

What do you think about that?

I mean... And it's the Packers making a big deal about it.

They don't like that Philadelphia does it.

They think it should be illegal.

This is what

I... I don't think they should ban it.

Think any any team can do it right.

It's not just the Eagles Why don't why didn't the Packers do it?

Why didn't

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I agree?

If it's an unstoppable play other teams should do it, too

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Correct,

but we saw it with Josh Allen where they tried it and he didn't get it.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, he he was kind of a spaz.

Yeah, it's like just do what Jalen Hurts does, you know

I remember that playoff game, Josh Allen's like picking a spot, trying to make up his mind.

It's like, oh, you just go straight forward.

And Jalen Hurts apparently can squat a house.

Yes,

he

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can.

So that helps.

And he has a good line.

But you're right.

I kind of think like you should do it.

It's like, should we outlaw the bomb?

Because some guys are really fast.

I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.

I think that they're making a big deal out of it.

Even though I'm a Packer fan.

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Yeah.

Practice during the offseason.

Practice trying not

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to stop

it.

I just think I think it's a it's a good football play if you want that first down go for it.

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It's innovative.

I mean Who'd have ever thought that would become a play?

No, you just run really hard straightforward That's kind of that's kind of football.

Yeah Here I saw this this was interesting Let us you can let us know what you feel about the tush push to folks.

It's coming from our home team here in Green Bay the Packers.

They're the ones

Raising the alarm about the push.

Do you agree with the pack?

Is it good against?

I think that voiced is disapproval of the push or Said every team just try to find a way to combat it I want to talk about this show too when we come back.

It's called grandpa in my pocket really weird So we'll talk about that

I heard from our pal Richard, really, who was in the fugitive, and I'm going to explain what he told me about an iconic scene.

It's really cool.

That's coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Lisa from Middleton, she's in the 608 says, I have no idea what manscaping is.

Please explain.

How much detail could I go into here?

Lisa, that is when you groom your privates.

And that's the male version.

It's called manscaping, not to be confused with mansplaining, which is kind of what I'm doing right now regarding manscaping.

We all do it, men, women.

That's not necessarily fun either, but I felt like that was an obvious answer.

You know, and it's more dangerous when you manscape yourself.

It is.

It can be treacherous.

It's a tough area.

I used to do a joke in my act where I'd say, you know, I'm sorry I was running late today, folks.

I cut myself shaving.

Never shave when you're in a hurry.

It can be very dangerous.

And it was in that really tough area to reach right under the penis.

So, yes, manscaping is a dangerous one.

Lisa says also, for me, it's a tie, colonoscopy and taking care of my liver.

Very interesting.

I never even thought of adding a medical procedure like a colonoscopy.

Nobody likes to have that done.

There's a lot of stuff.

I mean, I don't even like getting it physical, but you got to do it.

Great text, Lisa.

Thank you.

Steve from Florida, he's in the 920.

He says, I agree, Pete.

I hate nose hair and ear hair.

I don't understand why I'm losing hair on top and my nose and ear hair grow faster and longer the older I get.

That is kind of a cruel joke.

Now I got a bald spot.

It's all shown up in my eardrums or my nose.

There's probably a procedure.

I know people can get like

You know like a bikini wax or something like if you could do that for your nose.

I would do that

You could like put wax on like a On a cotton and just shove it up there and pull it out.

You know,

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is that true?

I don't know.

You're totally making that up.

Let's do that tomorrow night.

All right on the air.

It's good radio Keep those texts coming folks our question tonight.

What is your least favorite area?

or what aspect of bodily maintenance do you wish you didn't have to do?

And you can throw in medical procedures too.

Like Lisa just did with the colonoscopy.

Nobody likes to have those done.

You gotta do them.

Really all that stuff as you get older that you have to do.

None of it's fun, but share your answers if you would.

So, all right, so I tried to get this, my classic movie pick of the week for new WISCO weekend that airs Saturday and Sunday hosted by Lisa Hale, the tremendous Lisa Hale.

I do a classic movie pick of the week, every week, and now it's started to show up on the Civic Media website as well.

I just pick an old movie and recommend it.

This week's film is The Fugitive, and I thought, I want to have Richard really on the show to talk about his role in The Fugitive.

Richard's been on the show several times.

And he plays one of the guards in the famous train scene, and I didn't realize this until I was in a hotel last weekend, and The Fugitive was on.

I was like, oh my god, that's Richard, really?

He's one of the guards that gets overpowered.

before they filmed the big train scene where the train runs into the bus.

So Richard had a medical procedure done.

He had some dental work done.

So he can't be on the show for a couple months, actually.

It's a long recovery time.

But he wrote me this great email.

He said they were shooting the fugitive for a couple weeks.

They were all in a motel on a reservation that was shut down for winter He said we were shooting the iconic train film scene.

This is in the film in order They were rewriting the final two-thirds of the film and we shot three major stunts and aftermath including introducing Tommy Lee Jones character and his team We were shooting nights and trying to sleep during the day until the FBI decided to arrest David Koresh and rescue those in the Branch Davidian compound

So he says a bunch of us were watching TV all day and heading to the set at night on a bus.

He said it took two attempts to roll a bus down onto the tracks where the train would hit it and have it set on the tracks.

The scene inside the bus as the train rolled up to us, the big stunt with 16 cameras running, the aftermath.

He says he shot with Tommy Lee Jones where Tommy Lee Jones turns to the guard played by Richard and says, would you like to change your BS story?

It's just a great line because Richard was using bravado and saying that he's kind of the one that was, you know, the victim there.

He says he was wrapped and they chased Dr. Kimball until he left from the water pipe.

Remember that big scene Conrad when he jumps off?

Have you ever seen the movie?

I've never seen it.

Oh my God, it's good.

He said there was death on the set and then he was already on another film and they had to I think he's saying they had to reshoot that but 16 cameras they had one shot and most of you who have seen the fugitive They had one shot to get this stunt.

It was a train that was gonna crash into a bus The train had to go exactly 35 miles an hour to get the shot right if they had engineers

architects, insurance people, stunt people, everybody there because they had one shot at it.

Despite being so meticulous, director Andrew Davis still made a mistake and the train was going 42 miles an hour, seven miles an hour faster than the train was supposed to go before it hit the bus.

But luckily, movie magic happened and they got their shot.

And that is one of the most famous stunt scenes ever.

It's such a great stunt.

And Richard really was one of the guards in it.

So we'll have Richard.

When he heals up, I would love to have him on to tell the story about the email he sent me regarding that train scene in the fugitive.

Great stuff.

And get well soon, Richard.

A very good friend of ours here at Nightlight.

What else was I going to... Drake from Green Bay says he's in the night duo.

He says nose waxing is a thing.

It's all over YouTube.

All right, I'm not going to YouTube.

I'm not going to trust anyone on YouTube.

He says, pro tip, wear your glasses while you search for those nose hair, or you could miss them.

See, this is a thing, Conrad.

This is what you have to look forward to when you get older.

See, you can't remember, Kristen Lyley said, you can't trust those TikTok health trends, and that could go for nose trimming too.

I know.

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And like I said, my wife does it.

Listen to this guy on TikTok.

I'm like, oh, that's really interesting.

Who is that?

I don't know.

I have no idea.

He's just a guy running his trap.

TikTok.

715 says, you guys are cracking me up.

Colonoscopy is the worst.

I also, or the worst, I also despise shaving my legs.

25 years ago, I would have assumed that was a woman.

I have no idea now.

A lot of dudes shave their legs.

Did you know that, Conrad?

I didn't.

I have never shaved my legs.

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I haven't either.

I mean, it waxed my chest.

Yeah, good for you.

Paula from the 920 says, I don't like needles, so I don't enjoy having blood drawn for labs.

Oh,

that's a good one too.

Yeah, I can't.

I can't do it either.

Pete Schwaba

They were rolling in.

This is a great question.

All right.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

Great.

When you guys participate, 855-752-1589.

When we come back, one of my favorite actors will be joining us here on Night Light to talk about his role in the new season of 1923.

Jamie McShane joins us after the news and all kinds of fun will ensue.

Rob Thomas is here at 720, Madison-based film critic talking about the Oscars.

It's a really fun night and I'm glad you're here.

This is Pete Schwabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio Network.

All right.

Welcome back.

Great to have you with me on this Wednesday night edition of Nightlight as we broadcast statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay on a balmy, another balmy day.

We are so lucky.

It is my pleasure, ladies and gentlemen,

My next guest is an unbelievably talented actor.

You can catch his work on the show Wednesday on Netflix or the new season of 1923, which just dropped the other day.

It's my pleasure to welcome actor Jamie McShane.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, Pete.

How you doing?

God, I love that hat.

I can't pull that look

off.

You're not bold enough, kid.

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Maybe that's it.

I always thought it was the way my hair looked like.

I'll try those on when I go into the store and someone will just look at me, whoever I'm with, one of my kids, and just shake their head.

It's like, okay, thanks.

It looks good, though, man.

How are you?

Thank you.

I'm good.

Thank you.

How you doing?

Doing

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great.

Where are you right now?

Are you sitting outside in your yard?

I am.

It's a balmy, like 85 degrees out here.

God.

Yeah, got hot today.

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What part of LA are you in these days?

Burbank.

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Oh yeah, that's right, I knew that.

Yeah, I love it there, right here.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, that's a great, well good for you.

I'm glad you can sit outside and enjoy the weather and I have to

wear long underwear.

I'm sorry you can't.

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I'm sorry you have to wear long underwear into May.

Hey, so you're on Wednesday on Netflix.

I have to ask you, when you're on a Netflix show, do they give you a discount on Netflix, which is like so expensive now?

No, they double charge me.

No, I don't I don't get any discounts.

I get some nice gifts occasionally, but yeah Netflix has been very good to me.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, they've gotten Yeah, you're out there, buddy All right, so I think the last time we talked you were in Ireland and You said you were part of a show that you thought was maybe the best show you've ever been a part of or one of the most inspiring things you've worked on

Can

you

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give us any more details yet?

Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

So I was in Philadelphia for six months last year and we were filming a new show for HBO.

It'll be out in September and it's called Task, like a task force.

Okay.

And Mark Ruffalo is the lead.

He's got an amazing cast, Tom Pelfrey, Sam Keely, Allison Oliver.

There's another girl.

I'll think of it.

It was just, the writing was so good, the acting was so good, everyone was so nice.

Have you ever seen Mayor of Easttown with Kate Winslet?

Oh

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yeah, I love that show.

So Brad Inglesby, who created that show, and he wrote every episode of it, this is his next show.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, I love that.

So he writes every episode, he's that unset all the time, and he's probably one of the nicest humans I've ever met.

Pete Schwaba

That is so great.

And I loved Mayor of Easttown.

I thought it just like, it's one of those shows that you just kept watching and it just kept getting better episode by episode.

There was something and then you couldn't turn it off.

And it was, it was just so great.

I want to tell you, and I mentioned this to you and our Texas change a few days ago, but I had the actor Glenn Moore shower was on the show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

About a week ago.

And I mentioned your name because you guys have the same credits.

in some cases, but you know how that works.

You don't know if you're on the set the same day.

I didn't know

if your

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paths had crossed.

And he said, yes.

He goes, I know Jamie.

And he said, and before I really knew him, he was in a film.

I think it was Hostage.

You played a character called Joe Mack.

And he said he is one of the best actors I've ever seen.

And I'm basing that on one scene, Jamie.

And it wasn't from that movie, Hostage.

That's very sweet.

That's very sweet.

It was.

It was the opening of the film.

It's a phone conversation between Bruce Willis and I. Bruce is a SWAT negotiator, and I'm holding my wife and kid hostage at gunpoint.

Thank bastard.

Thank you.

It was like, it was a big, big break for me.

It was like, you know, seven pages of script or whatever, you know, six minutes, seven minutes seen.

Unfortunately,

You only see my face for like five seconds.

I thought they were going to edit it back and forth, back and forth between Bruce and I. And it was just always on Bruce and the SWAT team.

And then for a little pop, you saw me, but Glenn got to be there for the filming of it.

And that was very nice of him to say.

Pete Schwaba

It was very nice of him to say, and I would relay your message, except he and I had a huge falling out right after he told me about that.

So I'm never going to talk about it.

It's funny you say that because I think I met you.

We used to take our kids to the same park, and that's where we met and became friends.

And I remember you telling me, I think you had just shot that, or it was like 2006, maybe when we met or something, and you had just done that scene, and you were talking about how cool it was.

Yeah, I filmed it, Morrow was pregnant with Luke, Luke's 20, so yeah, I guess it was around 2004 we filmed it, I guess.

It probably came out around, yeah, something like that.

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That's

so

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great.

All right, so speaking of all of your amazing credits, buddy, let's talk

about

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1923.

I feel like I like half the Taylor Sheridan shows and the rest of them, I'm kind of like, eh.

But 1883, 1923, I think are brilliant shows.

I love them.

especially 1923.

And you were in season one as well.

I think you did three or four episodes and now you

have... I think I was in two, for some reason I'm credited for three and maybe it was three, but yeah, it was towards the end of the first season.

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Yeah, and you play Marshall Kent or Sheriff Kent?

Marshall, US Marshall, yeah.

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All right, so I watched part of the first episode that's just dropped a couple of days ago from season two and you just blow a guy away and I love that.

So what, tell us about, tell us about 1923.

What's that set like?

What is that experience like?

And do you love that role?

I do.

I love the role.

I'd met Taylor a million years ago in Sons of Anarchy when he was an actor before he got into writing.

I haven't seen him.

He hasn't been on the sets I've been on.

The first season of 23, we shot, the storyline was up in Montana.

So we shot up in Montana.

And then winter came on and it got so cold, we couldn't film.

So we had to pick up a little bit in California, just about an hour and a half north of L.A.

Oh, nice.

To look like Montana.

And then season two, we filmed, at least the stuff I was in, our storyline was all in Texas because our characters are hunting down these couple people down in Texas and Oklahoma territory.

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Okay, and you kind of you kind of told me that you have a I don't know how you describe it a meaty part or you play a sweetheart or something which I took

I

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Don't know

what you can

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say about it.

I don't want you do any spoilers

No, no, no, no, I mean people have seen the first season.

I'm I'm a US Marshall who's pretty ruthless towards the the Native Americans and he's

trying to track down this Native American girl who killed some nuns and priests.

Yeah, she escaped from this school that she was at and the school treated, it was a Catholic school, they treated the natives horrendously.

So this girl reacted and has escaped.

So I'm essentially hunting her down.

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That's great.

So he's not, that's interesting.

That was one of my questions.

Like Taylor Sheridan is so prolific.

I mean,

the

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guy signed like a 12 show deal and he seems like he's got 20 shows on the air somehow.

And every time I watch one of his shows, he's credited as the writer.

I'm like, I don't know how this guy does that.

You know, that's really incredible.

But how, what interaction have you had with him and what's his style if you can comment on that?

I haven't had interaction with him directly since that Sons of Anarchy.

So my interaction with him is I read his script and get to do it.

And I hear about him through the director and the first AD and stuff like that.

But he's been very good to me.

I'm very appreciative.

That's excellent.

Pete Schwaba

Well, you're a benefit to him as well, my friend.

Jamie McShane is my guest.

He is an actor whose credits include Wednesday on Netflix, 1923, Sons of Anarchy, Bloodline.

He's got a great resume.

What else do you have coming up that we can look for you in?

Those three, 23.

Oh yeah, I did Bosch Legacy too last year.

The first episode of Bosch Legacy this coming season in March.

Okay.

1923, I did like six episodes.

I'm in Wednesday again, a little bit here and there.

Season two, we filmed that in Ireland.

Okay.

And then task, I'm in six out of the seven episodes.

Wow, nice.

So,

Pete Schwaba

did you

say... Oh yeah, I just, I just want to...

I got a really cool, like, giant belt buckle with my name on it.

I won Best Actor for a Short at the Tucson Film

Pete Schwaba

Festival.

Whoa!

Wait, and that was a gift?

A huge belt

buckle?

Yeah.

It's so funny.

It's, like, so Western.

And then I have a little... Well, no, I have a pretty good supporting role in a movie called Atropia.

It was this little independent film, and it won Sundance.

Wow.

It won the grand jury prize at Sundance a month ago, or a couple weeks ago.

Pete Schwaba

You play seagull in that?

Sigal?

Yeah, I play, uh, yeah, Sigal.

Uh, I play like a, uh, uh, Army Commitmenter, kind of like Arlie Ermey and, uh, you know, it was a platoon.

Oh, okay.

You know, kind of that, or Full Metal Jacket, I think it was.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Full Metal Jacket.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That kind of drill.

Congratulations.

Thank you, Drill Sergeant.

Pete Schwaba

That's fantastic.

What kind of roles

Pete Schwaba

do you like to play the most?

Do you have like, you're sometimes you're a good guy, sometimes you're a bad guy.

What gets you excited when you see a script?

I don't care.

I mean, my favorite role, so for Bloodline, I was one of my favorites, and that was such a great layered character.

But this, what I did on Task, they, it was such a fun role, because I'm kind of the head of this biker.

Club this motorcycle club.

I'm kind of with the mother chapter so I come down to looking on the local chapters and It was so fun to play because they really let me Do how I saw the character and then you know the tweaking with the direction and the writing was just the writing was so good Like bloodline.

It just gave me and and Taylor and everything just gave me so much to play with

Pete Schwaba

How do you, okay, so as an actor, you just said you got a lot of freedom to play the character how you want.

Is that, do you like that or do you like parameters sometimes given to you by a director?

Is it easy to play when you have limits or when you can just kind of add your own stuff to the character?

It's both.

I mean, if they like on Cask, Bloodline, even 23, the character to me is already in the script and then what can I do?

to bring it to life and find the layers and the humanity and you know whatever and I get to I've been fortunate enough to get to bring that sort of stuff to life and then have directors tweak me and the writer and that I love I love you know there's a great scene in task I'm not going to give it away but the director wanted this other actor and I to be closer physically

then we were when we rehearsed it, and it just changed the whole dynamic of the scene as to how it ended up.

Pete Schwaba

Nice.

So, do you ever get advice from a director or a writer, producer, whatever, where you're kind of like, oh, I don't know about this, and it wasn't good?

And what happens when that happens?

Like, do you feel secure enough?

You work all the time, you're a respected actor.

Do you feel okay speaking up in those situations?

I've had times

Yeah, where I've spoken up and said wait, I don't know if this quite feels right and then the director was totally right.

They're like try it.

Oh, yeah, that's great So I haven't had too many that I can remember that the direction was wonky or anything That doesn't stand out to me.

No.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that's good All right, you also James you mentioned you're in one episode of Bosch legacy.

Mm-hmm

Coming up which is the final season and that's one of my favorite shows.

I love cop shows and I like LA cop shows and that to me is like just a phenomenal show Love everything about it.

You've had you've been on that show before you played Frank.

What was your character's name

Francis Sheehan?

That was a great role.

I'm still I'm still detective Sheehan.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, right cuz you that's right.

Okay, so

Alright now it's coming back to you remember what happened to your character.

So that's nice that they can bring you back I know Scott Clay says had a nice run our friend a

fellow yeah friend of yours

Pete Schwaba

too So I was hoping to have him back on for Bosch legacy because something he told me last time he's on the show.

He goes I cannot believe

that I keep managing to get in every season.

Like, what a

great thing

Pete Schwaba

is an actor, right?

Yeah, and he's great in it.

He's really good,

Pete Schwaba

yeah.

My guest is Jamie McShane.

We'll have a couple more minutes with Jamie when we come back after this very short break.

We're talking acting.

We're talking 1923.

His new show, Task, which drops in September, he says, is one of the coolest things he's ever worked on.

So look for that as well.

We're coming right back on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Hey, this is John Legend, and you're listening to Night Light with T. Schwabba.

Pete Schwaba

We're back.

Talking with actor Jamie McShane, you can catch him on the new season of 1923.

He plays Marshall Kent.

Great role, and he's in bloodline.

Check him out in that.

The show Wednesday on Netflix and an upcoming show that is called Task.

And did you say that was HBO, James?

Yes,

it's

Pete Schwaba

HBO.

I was looking at your IMDb page.

I haven't looked at it in a while, but I love that you still do short films.

which tells

me

Pete Schwaba

that you as an actor, it's all about, it's all about the role, right?

Or maybe you're doing a friend a favor, or maybe you just really love the role, but I think it's great that you don't limit yourself to, to big money.

Yeah.

Thank you.

I wish I were getting a lot bigger money, but I'm paying the bills.

No, I love doing, you know, some, I've had like a kid asked to do a short, a short film or whatever.

I'm like, yeah, let me see the script.

And as long as I can do it,

Time-wise and all that's fine.

I have a neighbor down the street who I've done a couple films for One was called unspoken a short film that won a bunch of awards.

It was Michael Beach and I And another girl Jean-Té That was a really cool little film Yeah, he just asked me if I would do it.

I read the script.

I said, yeah, I called Michael Beach is an amazing actor.

He said yeah, I'll do it and then he got

This other actress to play and the three of us shot it and right here in in north Hollywood

Pete Schwaba

That's so funny and I know that you're willing to do these films because years ago, and I think we talked about this last time We shot

a little disco principal baby

Pete Schwaba

disco principal at our kids school and I was Quote directing it end quote and you were the main character and that was

Even that was a lot of fun, you know what I mean?

That

was fun.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, and Scott Klase was in it.

We had all these fun, Wayne York, all these great character actors

and actors.

Curtis was in it.

You remember Curtis Wilma?

Pete Schwaba

Of course, love Curtis.

I was just, Heather and I were just hanging out with him the other night.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, no kidding.

Yeah, he played the man with the yellow hat.

Pete Schwaba

Wait, no, that was in the first one, the Mother Goose movie we did.

Oh, okay.

I thought it was in the same one.

Pete Schwaba

He was really funny.

He's such a good guy.

That's

Pete Schwaba

so great.

Is there a specific role that you would do anything to play?

A character, maybe a famous character, or a type of role that you haven't played yet that you would love to do?

I love period pieces.

If I could, I would love to play Gene Hackman's son.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, wow.

I mean, that has been my dream.

Unfortunately, Gene doesn't act anymore.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

But I would absolutely love that.

I would love to work for Steven Spielberg, you know, and a bunch of other people.

I can't say a specific role.

Well, we did meet Harrison Ford the other night, speaking of specific roles.

Oh, nice.

We met him at the 1923 premiere and talk about an American actor who's had some of the most amazing roles ever.

Yeah.

And he's such a sweet guy.

He was so kind.

Pete Schwaba

He's one of those actors that just like, and I put Tom Cruise in that category.

Well, there's a lot of them.

They just choose really smart scripts and they're smart guys.

And that's why they've had, in my opinion, at least, for what it's worth, the longevity they've had, because they pick good projects, right?

I mean, he's

Pete Schwaba

definitely at the top of that list.

And is he, are those guys like Gene Hackman, Harrison Ford,

Um, just guys you'd want to work with, James, or who are your influences?

Like when you decided, I think I can do this.

Who did you want to emulate?

Hackman was a huge influence when I was growing up.

Also, Alan Alda specifically in Nash.

Pete Schwaba

No kidding.

Yeah, because everyone, he just stood out.

Like his subtleties just stood out.

I met him once at like the airport and I said hello and he was, he was sweet.

But yeah, I would say.

Yeah, those those are the main two.

I mean, I've had, you know, effects, Steve McQueen, Clint a bit, Spencer Tracy going way back.

Nice.

Yeah, some of those guys.

Pete Schwaba

You could put you in pretty good company.

Have

there been.

And you know who else recently?

Yeah.

We just watched a movie called The Dead Don't Hurt, which is a weird title.

It's a Western.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

The dead don't hurt.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

It's written, directed and starred.

by Viggo Mortensen.

And I think he is so incredible.

He is such a talent.

I would love to work with him.

Pete Schwaba

He's great.

I actually just rewatched the history of violence about two months ago.

And the first time I saw it, it blew me away.

And there was that moment where you kind of think you know where it's going, but he like transitions through that film into this badass.

Yeah,

he's a

Pete Schwaba

great actor.

And a name you don't hear a lot when you talk about these great actors, very underrated.

Dude, this is so fun.

I wish you luck on 1923.

Thank you so much.

Where you're sitting right now reminds me of when we used to drink whiskey in our yards and just sit out there at night.

Some of the best times I had living in LA.

So I

miss you, buddy.

Pete Schwaba

And this is great

to

Pete Schwaba

have you on the show.

Continued success, my friend.

But thank you so much for having me.

It's such an honor.

And I miss you.

And I'll talk to you around sometime.

Pete Schwaba

I appreciate it.

All right, have

a good night, buddy.

Thanks, everyone.

Bye-bye.

Pete Schwaba

You got it.

That's Jamie McShane, folks.

Check him out in 1923.

Consistently, when I would introduce friends I meet that weren't comedians, because when I lived in LA, I mostly hung out with my comedian friends.

And they all met Jamie, and they would go, oh my god, I know that guy.

He's awesome.

He's a really good actor.

If you get a chance to check out his work.

Definitely do it because he's phenomenal.

I was going to ask him what he's watching on TV, but he's basically in everything.

So I don't think he could have given me a good answer there.

But Rob Thomas coming up at 720.

We're going to read your texts when we come back after the news and our question tonight.

Oh, folks, it's a good one.

We've had some great answers so far.

What aspect of bodily maintenance do you wish you didn't have to do?

I say cut my nose hair.

Conrad says wear deodorant.

Some people are saying manscaping colonoscopy the list goes on and on Be part of the show and answer our question folks.

I will read it on the radio Rob Thomas coming up at 720 We'll be right back with nightlight with peach wabba on the civic media radio network

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