Anora (Hour 2)

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Anora (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Feb 26, 2025

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who writes checks his mouth can't cash.

Pete Chwaba.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back.

We have a question tonight.

That's a bit controversial.

Would you agree with that Conrad?

Uh... Sure.

Well, I was asked to explain what manscaping was by Lisa.

Yes.

I think Lisa was in Madison or Middleton.

And our question tonight is... Yeah, I think we should go through the whole spiel again.

Play the clip, Conrad.

Let's hear it.

Let's talk

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about

the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Questions.

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What aspect of bodily maintenance do you wish you didn't have to do?

I said nose hair.

I find that tedious.

Conrad said he wished he didn't have to wear deodorant.

So that means basically your answer is you don't want to have to apply deodorant, which

Things are going to get a lot worse for you, buddy, as you get older.

I'm just

telling you.

You know, it's a burden, you know?

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That's right.

It slows you down that extra eight seconds.

We've had some great, and assuming most people, it's probably the private areas.

Like I said, manscaping.

Lisa wasn't sure what I was referring to, so I had to explain it.

And that's not funny either.

That can be dangerous.

Don't do it after you've had a couple of drinks, folks.

Yes.

715 says colonoscopy.

Conrad's dad says, he agrees with me, nose hair is just a pain.

And Lisa in Middleton also said, colonoscopy, it's a tie, colonoscopy and taking care of her liver, which means probably not having several cocktails maybe, I don't know.

And then Drake said, be sure you wear your glasses when you trim your nose hair or you could miss something.

And he said nose waxing is a thing.

It's all over YouTube.

I'm a little leery of YouTube and all the experts Conrad's mom says I don't like needles so I don't enjoy having blood drawn for labs Which I totally get and I'm in full agreement and then Drake was nice enough Drake from Green Bay not the Drake that Kendrick has the issue with I want to make that perfectly clear.

This is not the rapper or it could

be

And Drake could have relocated

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to Green Bay.

He could keep a place in Green Bay.

A lot of big Hollywood types do that.

You never know when you want to go to a Packer game or hit Curly's over at Lambo.

But he included, and I'll have to watch this after the show, a couple videos of people getting their nose air waxed.

That looks awful, too.

So, but let us know what you think, folks.

855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic.

What is the most tedious?

bodily maintenance chore, or one you wish you didn't have to do.

And you can include medical procedures as well.

So we'll do that.

Rob Thomas is coming up in just about 10 minutes.

We'll talk about the Oscars, which are literally right around the corner.

March 2nd, I want to hear some of Rob's predictions.

We'll talk to him about a couple of articles he wrote.

He's the city cast Madison newsletter editor, in addition to being a Madison based film critic.

Busy guy, but we'll talk to Rob as we so often do in just a few minutes.

And you saw, I want to hear what you have to say, and I want to ask Rob about this too.

The film Enora.

Yeah.

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What did you think?

I

saw

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it last night.

Okay.

I was bored.

Wait a minute.

I'm starting to put all this together.

So Kristen Lyrely was on last night.

She talked about how much sex there was in Inora, and then you go home and watch it immediately that night.

I'm not saying that's why, but it's a little suspect.

Okay, you caught me red-handed.

You caught me red-handed.

Well, steer clear of that one too.

Okay, thoughts?

Well, I didn't expect how much sex is actually in that.

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Yeah, it was quite a bit.

But...

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It's

awesome.

The beginning of it was interesting.

I did find it a little fun.

And then all of a sudden, I just went down this cliff of just me getting bored, even more bored than I was.

And it was just like her being captive.

And I was like, okay, is someone gonna do something?

And it was just like the whole movie of her pretty much just being a captive.

And I thought it was, I thought it was just boring is what I thought.

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Right.

I'll say this.

I thought, I mean,

I thought the film was, when she, towards the end, she's married to a Russian oligarch's son.

They do a very quick wedding after having sex for the whole first part of the movie.

And then, you know, the parents are against it.

The Russian parents, they come over.

The kid takes off, leaving her with kidnappers, who say, you're not going anywhere until we get the marriage annulled.

And then it drags.

It's like 30 minutes of her sitting there.

There's a couple of funny scenes where she kicks the kidnapper.

in the face.

It's listed as a comedy.

And a lot of that Sean Baker stuff is very funny.

I just, I think I watched this thinking it was supposed to be one of the best films of the year.

And it had trouble measuring up just to me personally.

But there is a scene, I'm sure you remember this where she says, I'm taking you for everything you got.

We never signed a prenup.

And I thought, okay, here we go, some drama.

She's

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got some, some backbone.

And then nothing happened with that either.

It was just like, yeah, I don't get it.

And I really wanted to like it and I didn't dislike it.

I think I would have liked it more were it not up for best picture

I I didn't I didn't really even care about what it's nominated for I just I just got bored you just

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didn't like

it and then for a movie to really grab my attention It's you know, I it did originally and I just

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right

dragged off and then I saw after that I watched the new Sonic the Hedgehog movie and That was a lot of fun.

It was it was great scenes and just

comedy with Jim Carrey and He plays egg egg egg man, okay, and then in the film he finds his grandpa which is I can't think of the name but is Jim Carrey also So he's playing two characters playing two roles.

I love which two Jim Carrey's in the movie is almost too much It was it

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was

alright.

It had me laughing the whole film when they were together

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Interestingly enough, there was even more sex in Sonic 3 than there was in Enora, which I found curious.

The hedgehogs.

Yeah, the hedgehogs cannot keep their hands off each other, or their paws or whatever they are.

I still haven't seen that.

It got good reviews, though, it did very well at the box office, so that's definitely on my list.

I would say it's definitely my favorite Sonic movie that they've made.

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Have you seen all of them?

Yep.

And I saw the Knuckles TV show as well, which that one was just...

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Huh knuckles it was

mainly about well knuckles is a hedgehog.

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Oh, I got you.

Okay,

but it was mainly about bowling

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Okay,

and yeah interesting.

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Yep I want to play a little highlight if I can from last night show because I last night on the on the nightlight I talked about how when we sit there and watch TV together at night Do we have this that we can play that you just cut together that thing with Kristen?

I will grab it.

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Okay.

So I talked about how rubbing your feet together is like self-cuddling and a lot of people do it.

You're sitting there in a room and you're all watching movie and you look over and people are rubbing their feet together and I caught myself doing it in a hotel room this past weekend.

I was watching the fugitive just kind of chilling out and I realized you don't really do that.

You don't ever just sit there and rub your shoulder.

or rub your hands together like you're washing them to relax.

It's just your feet.

Whatever that is, it must set off endorphins that help us relax or calm down.

So I mentioned this to my guest last night, Dr. Kristin Lierly, who was always fun.

And she kind of agreed with me and kind of didn't.

Let's hear that.

Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

I'm very excited.

It is my pleasure to welcome tonight.

I'm my old pal, Dr. Kristen Lyrely.

I told the entire listening audience that I rub my feet together sometime when I watch TV and I call it self-cuddling.

And it's like the only thing we do where we rub our own bodies and we relax, you know.

Is it?

Are you calling that to a gynecologist?

Pete, come

on.

Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Weeknights from six till eight.

You can't ever shock her.

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You know, not that I wasn't trying to do that, but she's always got given her profession She's always seen something worse than what you're saying or as a joke or isn't afraid to go there That's so much fun So we've got Rob Thomas coming up in a little bit.

Hey, I would love to hear what people think too I said this at the beginning of the show the tush push Conrad and I both agree that because this this happened when Brian Gudekinst said at the combine I believe it was the combine that

They should do away with the tush push that Philadelphia does with Jalen Hurts.

And I don't do remember the reason he gave like I heard it now.

I can't remember it.

I mean, a lot of people want to ban it because of the injuries that come with it.

You can very get injured.

I mean, Jason Kelsey has talked about how that play he hated because he would get hurt

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every game after it.

So maybe it's the injury standpoint, but also it's just no one can stop it.

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You know what?

Maybe Jason Kelsey needs to toughen up a little bit.

And that's fine.

If you don't want to call it for those reasons, I get that.

If there's tons of injuries or it's not safe, don't call it.

But like, I disagree with what Gudekin said.

It's like, I agree with you, what you said.

Just stop it or do it better.

Those are innovations of the game.

It's like the peanut punch.

It's like, hey, you can't knock the football out of my hand.

It's like, well, yeah, I can.

This is like what we're doing here.

So I would love to know what people think about the tush push too.

And if it should be banned as, uh, uh, good, it comes to the GM, right?

Or is he the president?

GM, what the Packers GM says, or, uh, if you think it should be allowed, I think it should be allowed.

And it's one of those things where it could force teams to do things differently.

You might draft, you know, fatter linemen or guys that can't be moved as much because of that.

But it's typically only to get a first down or a two-point conversion or a goal line, you know, it's not like it's I Don't know it's interesting and I was surprised when I heard that to be honest with you

So we also have do we have time to play the jump to conclusions?

Sure Okay, so Richard really our friend just had surgery on his mouth and cannot be on the show next week because I wanted him to talk about the fugitive the opening scene he's in So in honor of Richard recovering from his surgery we're gonna play his scene from office space and What his character Tom Smikowsky invented?

You know there are people in this world that don't have to put up with all this like that guy that invented the pet rock

You see, that's what you have to do.

You have to use your mind and come up with some really great idea like that, and you can make millions, never have to work again.

You think the pet rock was a really great idea?

Sure it was.

The guy made a million dollars.

You know, I had an idea like that once a long time ago.

Really, what was it, Tom?

Well, all right.

It was a...

jump to conclusions, Matt.

You see, it would be this Matt that you would put on the floor and would have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to.

That is the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.

Yes.

Yes, it's horrible.

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This idea.

That's so great.

Oh, Richard, really.

He's a treasure, so we wish Richard a speedy recovery after mouth surgery.

He said he'll be out of commission for a couple months, but we'll have him on as soon as we can.

Always fun to have him on Nightlight.

When we come back, one of our faves, Madison-based film critic Rob Thomas, he's also the city cast Madison newsletter editor, joins us for some fun Oscar predictions.

We'll do that next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

I'm the Civic Media Radio Network.

Monica from Mount Horrib says, I do not rub my feet together to relax, which leads to my self-care chore I'd prefer not to have to do.

Sand my crusty old man feet because I have dry skin.

Monica has old man feet?

That's interesting.

Thank you for sharing that, Monica.

I'm serious because I've shared things probably that are pretty personal on this show and I appreciate when one of the listeners is not afraid to jump in there and tell me she has crusty old man feet.

I think that's great.

I happen to have gorgeous feet, Monica.

It's not a contest.

I have a lot of other flaws though.

Thank you for the text.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome now tonight light one of our favorites here He's on quite a bit and we love talking movies and TV with Rob especially with the Oscars right around the corner He's a Madison based film critic and also edits the city cast Madison newsletter Rob Thomas joins us now on nightlight Rob.

How are you?

I'm good Pete.

How are you doing very well?

Thank you Do you

Do you have a bodily maintenance function you hate to do the most?

I have to drag you into this, Rob.

I'm sorry.

There's none that I love too much.

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That's

fair.

There's no part of my body at this age that I want to spend a lot of time on, to be honest with you.

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You get to a certain age where you don't even like to look at yourself in the mirror, and that's

so sad.

No, I mean I will say like it's been a half century battle with flossing where it's like I floss for a while and then I fall off and then I go back and then of course I go to the dentist and I lie to them that I've been flossing even though they're looking at me as I'm saying it but we all sort of agree to just say oh we're trying to do a little better so that's one I just I need to pick up the habit of.

My dentist was always like, oh, I just flossed in my car.

And I was like, well, first of all, you're a dentist.

And secondly, that's very weird.

That is really weird.

Yeah, like a stop sign.

He flosses just a little bit.

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Like how much gross stuff is on his steering wheel?

Honest to God.

And I flossy.

I'm the kind of guy like when you tell me.

It's okay not to do something.

I'll take advantage of that.

And I had a friend who is a dentist who said flossing is more important than brushing.

So I floss on average, I would say six, like Saturday nights, maybe I won't floss.

I know I'm not going to see anybody.

But other than that, I'm pretty religious about it.

However.

Good for you.

Yeah.

But they have said a couple dentists have told me it's more important than brushing.

So if I'm going to slack off on something, I'll floss and then be too tired to brush and just go into bed, which is not good either, you know.

No, right.

Oh, everyone is sharing a lot on the show tonight, and I love it.

Hey, it's great to have you on the show.

Before we jump into the Oscars, Rob, I saw your article in CityCast Madison from a couple of weeks ago.

Can you explain to everybody?

It sounds more pathetic than it is because you explain it, but it says, I got to find the headline here.

Madison has lots of options for solo dates.

This is good.

It's healthy to be able, you know, we, uh, CityCast Madison and the Madison Institute there, we had like what we call a love week, right?

Valentine's Day.

And not everybody has somebody to go out with or, and it's important to have a little self-care.

So like for like, I love going to movies by myself.

Like I almost prefer it because I don't have the pressure of worrying that the other person.

I love going with my kids, but in general, with friends or whatever, there's just the pressure of worrying that they're enjoying the movie, or I picked a bad one, or I don't want them to feel bad if I don't like the movie they picked.

It's just a whole social thing.

It was just some ideas for like, get out.

You know, I do just go out and sit at the bar and read a book and have a nice meal and a beer or, you know, go to a movie or go to a show or, you know, I think it's healthy to, to, uh, to solo date.

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I agree.

And you explain it wonderfully because you say get a massage.

It's not like you're, it's not like you're dating yourself per se, but like take

a

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medication or take a meditation class, take a nature walk, go to a bookstore, um, learn to enjoy.

Being with yourself was the gist of it.

I just thought it read kind of funny, like you're dating

yourself.

I did like the picture of this woman just sitting alone at a table.

Like anyone, anyone get it.

Who's gorgeous.

And frankly,

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if she was sitting alone at a table, she'd probably have to shoe guys away and you don't want to have to do that either, right?

Right, right, yeah.

It reminds me though, pardon me, of the old Richard Jenny joke, which I can't.

Savor beat him, but he says don't you hate it when people are always talking your friends are talking about sex or all that stuff after dates and that he goes don't be afraid chime right in with a Self-pleasuring story of your

own.

I'll say for

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lack of a better It's like I didn't know what's gonna happen that night, but I got home I

was all over

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me

You also did another article I thought was great about swag in Madison and this this was kind of cool because Everything is so expensive in Madison even the swag even if you want to buy a badger sweatshirt or whatever sure so elaborate on that a little bit, please if you

yeah, I just was thinking about it Because you know people come to Madison they want to get souvenirs or you want to send a gift to To somebody out of town when you just move here or you just want to kind of rep the city and so

I knew about the University Bookstore, obviously.

There's lots of magic here, but I was looking around to see other places that might have some interesting stuff.

It was a fun article to research.

You can get little capital rotunda snow globes and all kinds of funky t-shirts and posters.

A lot of locally made as well as

locally focused gifts and stuff.

And then these little shops all over town.

So that was, that was kind of fun to, to, to do a little shopping guide.

And of course, you know, sometimes you just want a badge or sweatshirt, but we were kind of cool little things too.

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Did you, like when you talked to these places, did they give you a free swag for?

No, they did not.

But I'll go back now that I've written it and pick up that little cow or that snow

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globe.

I encourage everybody who's listening to check out the CityCast Madison newsletter because just today, yeah, events on the 26th, you've got all this cool stuff listed, Johnny Cash birthday bash, Cork and Bottle string band.

How cool is that?

Office versus Parks and Rec trivia.

an open mic hosted by Jack Tomlinson at the Red Rooster, which I've heard is a great open mic and a really cool thing to do in Madison.

So definitely check out the CityCast Madison newsletter.

Our guest, Rob Thomas, is the editor of that.

And when we come back after the news, Rob and I are going to talk about the Oscars and make our predictions.

You're probably more informed than I have.

Have you seen all the films, Rob?

I have not.

I was going to binge this weekend and catch up.

Yeah,

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same.

Alright, we'll get into that after the news.

Rob Thomas is here.

Folks, don't go away.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome

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back.

Barbie, ladies and gentlemen, great to have you with me on this Wednesday night edition of Nightlight.

Steve from the 9-2-0 says, Pete and Conrad, isn't the tush-push play a throwback when football started back in the day?

My take is for the defense to man up and practice, analyze, to stop the forward play.

Yeah, that's kind of what I said at the top of the show, Steve.

Like, I feel like, hey, you can't run the ball forcefully right at us.

Like, that's

the whole game.

Yeah, it's, you know what the play is.

You got to practice it.

That's the only thing that can help you.

I don't like this team trying

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to advance

the ball one bit.

It gave me a break.

Well, my dad said, just like, isn't it a tush push of play from back in the day?

Yeah.

It kind of reminds me of a rugby scrum.

Right.

Red Ross.

Right.

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And believe me, it's not exciting to watch unless the game is on the line.

I don't love the play, but yeah, kind of a silly request.

Rob Thomas is with us from the city cast of Madison newsletter.

He's the editor.

He is also a Madison based film and TV critic.

He writes about entertainment.

Rob, how are you feeling about the Oscars?

It's a nutty year.

Yeah.

I don't feel like there's any real front runner.

Uh, even though a Nora has won a lot of awards and that's the one I would probably bet on.

Okay.

I kind of feel like it's one of those years where like they kind of give a little bit to everybody, you know, like this, you know, they, they spread it out, but, um, it's a weird year for sure.

Yeah.

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Yeah.

It doesn't, it doesn't feel like there'll be a sweep, but.

I have to be honest.

First of all, I'm really excited because this year more than any, I think that makes it more fun to watch when you don't know what's going to happen.

So personally, I'm excited about that.

And you could really look a lot of different ways.

I know that the Conclave won for Best Ensemble cast at the SAG Awards last weekend.

And I read some crazy statistic that over the last 30 years, the movie that won Best Ensemble at the SAG Awards,

brought home the Oscar for Best Picture in all but four years, like 26 out of 30 years.

So you might say, oh, well, Conclave has the inside track, but I'm with you.

I've heard a lot of, a lot about Enora, which, what did you think of Enora?

Oh, that's one of the ones I haven't seen.

Oh, okay.

I'm going to see it Saturday.

I think it's plenty of local theater.

So I want to catch it.

So yeah, but it's one that's one.

A lot of awards right and when the director's guild at one the producers guild just one independent spirit awards last weekend So like if you're looking at like the one that like has won the most leading up to this it's probably That one yeah, but yeah, I can see conclave too because Like like in my head like it's a Nora and the brutalists are probably the top two but both films have like

Some people love it.

Some people are kind of mad on it, but I don't know anybody who didn't really like conclave.

It seems to be the one that kind of

kind of covers all its basis.

So it could sort of like, I don't know, sneak in there somehow if the vote is split between a nor and the brutalist.

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Yeah.

But I mean, I always thought Wicked was gonna like, you know, it was the one big hit.

It would be like Barbie or Oppenheimer, but it seems like it's really kind of falling off the page.

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You don't even really hear about that at

all.

No.

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And you don't hear about Dune 2.

Most days I forget that was even nominated so I like to I don't like to think I probably Assume it has no chance and maybe we could either but I I feel like with the Nora and we could talk after you see it But I feel like people love Sean Baker

But it's not even my favorite Sean Baker film.

Like I liked Red Rock.

I love the Florida project.

It's

one of my

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all-time favorite films.

Love

Red

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Rocket.

I like Tangerine.

And I like DeNora, but I think I watched it thinking it was nominated for Best Picture.

And I didn't think it lived up to that, but you make a good point.

I mean, it's won a lot of awards.

Yeah, that's hard too.

I think when you see a movie after it's already been showered totally and then you're kind of like, well, what's the big deal here?

Exactly.

Even if it's like, you know, a good movie, right?

But yeah, so let

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me ask you this.

What did you like?

What film that you've seen?

I haven't seen The Brutalist.

I haven't seen Nickel Boys and I have not seen I'm Still Here.

I know you saw I'm Still Here because I think we discussed that last

time

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you liked it a lot.

I've heard I had Mariah Gates on

Monday, I think, she thinks Nickel Boys is the best film she's seen all year.

What have you liked the most of what you've seen, regardless of whether or not you think it'll win an Oscar?

I mean, of the 10 nominated movies, I think Dune Part 2 is the best.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, I mean, I think, and you think about those two films together, that's just an amazing achievement.

And I think if it hadn't been released in February,

fact that science fiction is probably working against it to some degree.

I think it might be more of a player because it's so it also has a lot of great performances.

I mean Timothy Chalamet is of course deservedly getting a lot of attention for a complete unknown but he's also great in tune.

His character makes an incredible

art from one movie to the next.

And there's a lot of great supporting characters, and it's just so skillfully made and interesting.

And so that's the one I would probably save the 10 that, you know, I'm definitely not thinking it's going to win, but that's the one I would point to.

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Okay.

And what about, so that's like your personal favorite.

Yeah.

Did you see Amelia Prez?

I didn't, I've not heard good things about it, but I should watch

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it.

Yeah, it's kind of all over the place.

And then the other one, did you see the substance?

I didn't know.

Okay, so those are your three and I have my three.

Yeah, yeah.

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What did

you think of Nickel Boys?

Well, that's another one I haven't seen.

I've got four I gotta see.

Well, you got some.

I hear Nickel Boys is astonishing.

Like it's just the way it's made.

And I've seen that filmmakers hit a documentary a few years ago that was similarly very experimental and daring.

I think it's called Hail County this morning.

So I'm really excited to see it.

But just hearing about it, it might be too experimental, I think, for a lot of something that the people who see it really love.

But for general Oscar voters might be a little too much.

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Interesting

because it's like shot entirely from the point of view of one of the characters almost like like a first-person movie I think so yeah, which is an interest very interesting Way to make a movie, but maybe not for everybody.

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Yeah, I gotta be honest.

I'm gonna pay I Want to say it's 30 bucks or 25 bucks.

I'm gonna pay to see it because I've heard that many good things about it

Yeah,

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and I'll figure out a way to see I'm still here and the brutalist before Sunday actually to finish the brutalist I'll probably have to start it Friday night

It'd be over in time for the Oscars.

Well, there's an intermission.

Maybe you could stretch that out to eight hours and then take a

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nap.

Do you have any favorites or anything you've heard for the best actor, best supporting actress, those categories?

Let me think.

I mean, I think that all the categories are really strong.

I think Timothy Chalamet probably has the edge for...

Excuse me for complete unknown

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right,

but I think I think people really like Refines and conclave and I did he win for Schindler's list.

I think he did right?

Yeah, that's a long time.

I mean he's in so many good movies like that that would be wouldn't surprise me and then of course Adrian Brody and the brutalist

Who won for he went for the the the pianist 20 years ago and it's a little bit of a comeback for him, which is always Always something Oscar voters like that's why I think to me more is gonna win for the best actors for the substance Yeah, yeah, but I think they're all tough get which like you said it's fun.

They're all tough categories where you can see right three or four different ways

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I can't like the in the best actor category like here's what I think

could possibly happen.

Tell me if I'm way off base in this.

I don't know 100% how the voting works.

But you've got Ralph Fiennes, Chalamet, Adrian Brody, Sebastian Stan played Trump.

Yeah.

He could get some votes just because maybe some people in Hollywood don't like Trump or whatever.

But here's my dark horse.

It's Coleman Domingo for Sing Sing.

And I haven't seen Sing Sing.

But all I heard when it came out is how amazing he is.

And he is a great actor.

Could you see a scenario where he pulls some type of upset?

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah, he is fantastic in it.

I mean, he is, he's the one, or yeah, one name actor in a group of, you know, it's set in a prison in this theater company, a prison and all these other actors are, were inmates who went through the same program.

And what's fascinating is like Coleman Divingo is so good, but you also believe him within this group of actors who aren't as well known as this.

He just sort of like,

fits in with the ensemble.

So it's really incredible for us.

I think that's entirely worthy.

And I think also like Sebastian Stan, like that say, he really had a great year between that and a different man.

And he's really kind of broke it away from the marvel.

you know, the Marvel thing in a big way.

Any of those five, I think that really could, really has a shot.

Pete Schwaba

I agree.

I think Ralph Fiennes, you know, as great of an actor as he is, and he was good and conclave.

They were all, love Stanley Tucci, Isabella Rossellini, John Lithgow.

Ray Fiennes, Ralph Fiennes, whatever you want to call him.

He, I felt like he could have done that role in his sleep.

Like he didn't, he was just like mellow and calm and he was the voice of reason and all that.

And he was really good, but.

I kind of feel the same way about that as I do Edward Norton in a complete unknown like he was good But he was just likable like I don't know.

It's it I'd be surprised if if he won I think Shala may probably is the outside favorite like you said.

Yeah, I agree.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, okay best actress Let's I'm gonna address the elephant in the room.

Okay.

All right, and it's a small room here and she's not really an elephant did me more in the substance Yeah, she was good.

I hated that movie

Wait, did you see that or not?

No,

that's what I got to see.

All right.

I'm excited slash.

Extremely nervous about seeing that movie.

It's just

Pete Schwaba

awful.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

But

she's good.

She's

Pete Schwaba

a good actor.

Yeah.

I'm not trying to denigrate like what she did or anything, but I just, I'm like, really?

Like, I don't know.

I might need Madison.

I thought was better, even though I didn't think her whatever.

I don't know.

I don't know what's happening here, Rob.

Yeah, I think like I said earlier, like the comeback narrative is a big thing.

Yeah, like that's like what Brendan Fraser went for the whale a few years ago.

That's really why he won because it's like he'd been on the ropes and then, you know, and came back.

And so, you know, she and also the fact that she's playing a role that I think

Some people kind of reflect where she is as an actress who spent 40 years in Hollywood, who feel, you know, dismissed in favor of younger actresses, you know, and the film sort of comments on that in a very disgusting way.

But she's also given, like, when she's won awards this season, she's given some pretty incredible speeches.

And I think that is also a thing to think about is, like, who's really going to

get up there, accept the Oscar and really like, really have something to say, you know, because I'm taking their agent.

So, and again, I like I.

A couple of months ago, I was there.

Oh, Cynthia Arrivo for Wicked.

She's phenomenal, but obviously that doesn't seem to be happening.

So.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I kind of was with you.

And when I'm looking at these, like Mikey Madison, Demi Moore, Fernanda Torres, I haven't seen I'm still here yet.

Karla Sophia.

She is great.

She is really great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I

Pete Schwaba

remember you saying that and Karla Sophia.

Gascon, I think I'm saying that right from Amelia Perez.

I don't think she's going to win because of the Twitter thing.

Yeah, she's gone up in flames, I think.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, well, that is such a weird movie to draw 13 nominations.

And everyone I talk to is kind of like, eh, you know, and then you got the Twitter scandal.

It's like, what more could go wrong?

You know what

I mean?

Right, right, right.

Pete Schwaba

All right, that's interesting.

And then let's do quickly, maybe we could do a short break here in just a minute, but best actress in a supporting role.

Zoe, you

know, I think even though Millie Perez has had all the backlash, I can't think Zoe.

So then I was going to win that one.

Yeah.

Because again, people, you know, I hear she is the one thing that everybody's like, oh, she's really good in this.

And people have liked her for a long time.

And, um, you know, I think I just have a feeling there, although I would love it if, um, Monica is a Barbaro.

I think she's wonderful.

She was great.

Yeah, I would love to see that as well.

Pete Schwaba

I actually loved Ariana Grande and Rick Wicked too.

I thought she was really funny and

Pete Schwaba

I could kind of go.

I haven't seen Felicity Jones and the Brutalist, but any of these other actresses I think would be great and could easily win.

All right, so Rob Thomas is here.

We'll talk about best supporting actor coming up next.

And have you seen the Gorge, Rob?

I haven't.

I don't think it's in the Oscar conversation.

No, and it

Pete Schwaba

shouldn't be.

I was just curious.

I say it's not a great movie.

It's a great Netflix movie.

And

that's a whole different.

Yeah.

I've heard it say good watch.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

It was fun.

All

Pete Schwaba

right.

Well, we'll wrap things up with Rob Thomas coming up next after this break.

So great to have you with me on Nightlight tonight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Tomorrow night at nightlight,

Pete Schwaba

our pal Rich Talarico will be here.

Rich was a writer for Key and Peel and wrote some of their most famous sketches.

The teacher, what do you call the teacher that can't pronounce the name?

Substitute teacher.

A-A-Ron.

Aaron?

Oh, is that how it's going to be?

And he wrote the sketch, too, where Obama is meeting all these dignitaries.

And when they're white, he behaves one way.

And when they're black, he's like, my brother, that is such a great...

So we'll have Rich on tomorrow night at 6.35.

He's going to make the popcorn pick of the week and we'll talk a little bit about what he is up to these days as well.

Friday night is a bar band Friday night with Terry Barr and comedian James Connolly.

Right now we have a few more minutes with our friend Rob Thomas.

We're talking about the Oscars and switching to the category of best supporting actor Rob.

We got Guy Pierce from the Brutalist, Edward Norton from a complete unknown, Jeremy Strong from The Apprentice.

Kieran Culkin who's probably the favorite for a real pain and Yuri Borisov I think I'm saying that right from an aura who was good, but What are you hearing about supporting actors or actor?

I'm sorry.

Yeah, that's a tough one.

I think I mean to me only Yuri Borisov I think is the one who maybe doesn't have a chance Okay, but I think

I think you're right.

Kieran Culkin is probably the favorite for probably both kind of drafting off a few great years on succession and then a really great performance in a real pain opposite Jesse Eisenberg.

He's a very irritating character at times, but also very...

sympathetic and and you know he's sort of his own worst enemy as well as his own like best friend and I think it's great performance so yeah you know I do like I mean you said Edward Norton was too just kind of a nice guy as Pete Seeger I think he's really really good in that and and part of the charm of it is not only that he imitates Pete Seeger so well but he plays sort of like him as like

the father figure to Bob Dylan, who Dylan kind of rejects.

Yeah.

As you see, Pete Seeger is kind of the sense of betrayal, but he sort of covers it up and sort of understands it.

It's complicated.

So, and it was such an interesting actor because like he used to be so, he was like a really difficult, intense actor and would do a lot of, and now he's like Mr. Nice Guy and like the roles he takes and sort of for the public persona.

It's really interesting.

So.

But then I also like Guy Pierce.

Guy Pierce is really good in the brutalist.

I mean, sort of as the heavy, although it's kind of a one-note role, but he's really good at it.

And then Jeremy Strong's always good, although...

Yeah, so it's an interesting category.

I think I agree with you about Kieran Culkin But I would also see Edward Norton is having a pretty strong shot as well

Pete Schwaba

You know and you're right and I said that before but he was very likable But he was very good and I I liked his character so much.

I was I can't remember why I said this recently I was mad at Dylan in the movie for not just putting the damn acoustic on and making the guy who helped you out happy

Like

it would have

Pete Schwaba

changed nothing about history, except this one event wouldn't have been talked about as much.

But you're right.

He was great.

And I like Guy Pearce so much, even though I've never seen the brutalist or haven't seen it yet.

I always cheer for that guy.

Probably because I liked him so much in LA Confidential and Momento.

I just think he's such a great actor.

Yeah, he could.

I mean, he picks really interesting roles.

Yeah.

And like, you know, he could pick more like.

I think he used to do some action movie roles very early in his career, but pretty quickly he started picking really interesting ones.

And this guy, he plays like a millionaire businessman, and he's definitely the villain of the movie, but it's also a really magnetic.

You understand why people are drawn to him at the same time, so.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

Yeah, I would not be unhappy at all if he won.

Pete Schwaba

Did you ever see a movie called The Road?

It was a Cormac McCarthy.

Oh, God, yeah.

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

with Viggo Mortensen.

Guy Pierce plays, I can't remember if he was a good guy or a bad guy in that, but I think he comes along, I think he was a good guy at the end,

but he's

Pete Schwaba

wearing an eye patch.

And he's just one of those guys who morphs into roles so well.

That was a really bleak movie, but he was great.

Right, yeah.

He was like the one sense that maybe things might be okay.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Pete Schwaba

Hey, real quick, we have about a minute left, Rob, but we were talking about, I do these classic movie picks of the week here at Civic Media every week, and this week's is The Fugitive, and I try to have Richard really on the film, or on the show tonight, but he had mouth surgery.

I just watched The Fugitive in a hotel last week, and realized he was one of the guards in that opening iconic train scene.

Um,

Pete Schwaba

and he was so good.

Do you remember that scene?

And do you

believe they

Pete Schwaba

only had to do it?

They only had one take to do that crazy scene.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

I remember the direct, somebody was asking the director, how did you shoot that scene where you rammed the train into the bus?

And he said, well, we had this bus and then we ran to training.

Um,

It was so great, I was reading.

One of my absolute favorite movies, yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, and I didn't realize, I thought it was just kind of a popcorn movie, but in doing this research for the classic movie Pick of the Week, seven Academy Award nominations for that, and Tommy Lee Jones won for Best Supporting Actor.

I remember that, yeah.

He's fantastic.

They tried to, there was a movie, U.S.

Marshals, a couple years later, where he tried to recreate.

There was actually some good,

Good stuff.

I agree nearly as good as the fugitive.

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

right.

They tried to do the fugitive without Harrison Ford.

And

it was quite as good.

Yeah, it wasn't quite the

Pete Schwaba

same.

Hey, thank you as always, buddy.

We'll keep talking and we'll figure all of this stuff out eventually.

All right.

I'm sure we're both completely right about

Pete Schwaba

that.

Yeah, exactly.

Have a great night, Rob.

Thanks so much

as always.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

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