The 4 day work week is coming! We mean it! (Hour 2)

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And the best listeners in radio.

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Hope you're having a good one out there.

We're going to have some fun this hour.

We're going to kick things off with some entertainment news,

get into some local news, and what could be new in your email box tomorrow.

We will get into that.

I got a great one that Melissa sent over from gizmodo.com.

You can go ahead and find the article yourself involving four day work weeks.

A new study that was there on them.

Love it.

And what is a profession that was once highly respected but now not as much.

We will dive into that and see.

Radio.

No, no.

Yeah.

Top of the list.

Both of those right there.

But we begin where we, I believe we have to or at least I have to,

with the passing of a legend.

The King of Hard Rock.

The King of Heavy Metal has passed.

Ozzy Osborne passed away over the weekend.

Yesterday with his loved ones all by him.

He was 76 years old.

There's no word on the cause of death.

But the official statement quote,

it is with more sadness than mere words can convey that we have to report

that our beloved Ozzy Osborne has passed away this morning.

Quote, he was with his family and surrounded by love.

We ask everyone to respect our family and privacy at this time.

Ozzy's biography is pretty well known by now.

Got a start in black Sabbath.

Got fired in 79.

Launched a massive solo career that went on to the day up until about a week ago.

You know, was continuing.

Then in the early 2000s he reinvented himself, made his family just as famous

with the MTV reality show the Osborne's.

Anybody that loves reality TV, you can thank Ozzy.

I don't believe that reality TV would be where it is today without the Osborne.

That's a, that is a great point.

I remember when they announced it and I thought,

there's no way that'll work.

Yeah.

Jokes on me.

Yes, they showed you.

They did.

Along the way he has had quite a few different in its situations.

Throughout his lifetime in his career, a lot of controversies.

That, you know, every pretty much anybody in human history has had.

Not, not the instances he had because nobody had the instances he had.

To be fair, right?

But as far as having, you know, being a very mixed back.

Sure.

You know, of a human being.

He sold over 100 million records and he's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice.

He was inducted as a member of Sabbath and of course the solo career.

Ozzie's health took a turn for the worst back in 03 following ATV accident that he never really recovered from.

And he's been battling Parkinson's disease, which he was diagnosed with over a last fall.

In 2023 interview, he said his life had been, quote,

five years of absolute hell in the last five years.

That's rough.

And, and yet just two and a half weeks ago, he was able to perform one last time at back

to the beginning show in Birmingham, which we covered very much.

They raised over 190 million dollars for charity and it all went to charity.

It's an amazing number.

My gosh.

Ozzie is survived by his backbone in Sharon.

And of course, his children son.

There are some others to out there, the other children that he might have as well.

And then there was Amy, a daughter of Ozzie and Sharon who opted not to be in the show,

but she is also, of course, obviously.

Tony Ayomi, one of the greatest guitar players of all time,

original member of Black Sabbath, said, quote,

there won't ever be another like him.

Gieser Butler, bassist for Black Sabbath.

So glad we got to do it one last time.

Bill Ward, forever in our hearts.

I thought Robert Plant had something really beautiful that he said.

And touched more on Ozzie's impact on rock and roll,

and as well as his not being in pain anymore.

Yes.

I know of Black Sabbath and of Ozzie because of my dad.

And it was one of the first connections I had with my dad.

It was talking about them.

It was also one of the first impressions of me.

Oh, I got a cool dad.

I get that for life.

One of the things about having a cool dad means it's more like you have an older brother.

And that can have some pluses and minuses.

But it's something that brought us closer together.

And it's something that up until last week when we were sharing,

I was sharing footage with him of it and everything.

It was the first band that he saw alive, and I got to see life.

I spent a good portion of yesterday listening to my dad talk about the three times

he saw Black Sabbath and everything.

And they had to move them to the Rosemont because there was too many people.

They could have said it.

The difference that that band made.

There are genre changes all the time.

There are bands that are game changers all the time.

I don't know that there were many bigger game changers when Black Sabbath hit the market

at the time that they did where all you had on the radio was, you know,

a hippie music and stuff.

And not trying to make light of that or anything.

It was just a complete different sound.

Yeah.

And I say that as pop music, disco music, all the music had that influence on it.

It was happier.

And Black Sabbath were coming from an area, a very downtrodden part of England

where they were like, hey, Birmingham, right?

Yeah.

Not everything's sunshine and roses.

We've got to represent another side of this.

Asi was also a very, very, very, very dedicated to his faith, very dedicated to his faith,

very much to a point where he didn't make it about his life and his career about his faith,

about what he believed, about believing in God or any of these things.

It was a very complicated human being.

But also one of the most talented human beings to ever take a stage.

All of this gets lost in the shuffle.

I've seen the man live.

I've seen him twice and I saw him way past his prime.

I have never seen an MC like that.

I have never seen somebody that could connect with people like he did.

That could seem so genuine and charming on stage without really doing much.

You know, at the age that I saw him and everything.

Right.

Showman.

There is nobody that can take that.

There's a lot of questions about who's the king of rock and roll.

And there's a lot of great debate about it.

And the one of the fun things about it is there's no perfect answer.

No.

And a few people are wrong when they say, you know, any of the names that they do.

I will die on the hill of.

There is only one king of heavy metal.

There is only one king of hard rock.

And it will always be Ozzy Osborne.

And any name you want to throw at me, I will laugh at you.

And I will just mention one thing about Ozzy Osborne.

Just one thing.

Let alone the entire library that he has.

As I said to my dad last night, he's playing with Randy now.

And yeah, that's pretty cool.

Randy Rhodes, yeah.

So I don't know.

I don't know if you guys get anything to say.

I don't know.

I took a lot of time there.

And I apologize.

I did not realize I was doing that.

Sorry.

I don't have a bunch of history with Ozzy, because that was just not my music.

Of course, I knew who he was.

He heard his songs on the radio and everything.

So I appreciated him as a musician, of course.

But the thing that gets me the most on this one is just, I'm happy that like Robert Plant said,

he is no longer in pain.

Yeah.

He's at peace now.

And to me, that's the best thing for him.

It's odd when I have no connections to him, obviously personally or anything like that.

But my family has been through a lot of loss in the past month, which has had my mom and dad doing a lot of inner thinking,

a lot of working and thinking about death and thinking about losing people.

And a lot of that.

And so when you have somebody that's been a part of your life, your whole life, that has been a celebrity that's not necessarily in your house or anything.

But it's interesting, the questions, the conversations you have about mortality, about our time on this planet, and having those.

And so much of that does not have to be negative or sad or anything like that.

Part of life.

That's right.

And I think that there's something interesting where, as much entertainment as much as he gave, I appreciate that he won more time,

gave my father and I a great moment together and a great time there together.

As you share artists like this, you never know the impact it's going to have when they pass away or something like that.

You don't know what emotions it's going to bring out.

But usually it's because there's some kind of fan, there's some kind of connection there, like you're talking about with your family.

And that's why it makes it, maybe there's a little more meaning to it.

One of the most important things I think an artist and a creative can do is the kind of as we look at it

in sports, Seth, the coaching tree, the people that you help spin off, the people that got a career because of you

or you helped build up or something like that.

You know, the King of Pop, Michael Jackson, zero.

There's nobody on that list.

Michael never helped anybody get over or anything.

And even when he tried, he still took the song over and everything and it was all about him.

And that's not it's shot at Michael.

That's what made Michael Michael.

But when I look at somebody like Ozzy Osborne who it's an endless list of people that he helped give a break and give a shot to

or anything like that.

A lot of people in a lot of different genres too, like the basis from Alice and Chains.

He was more of a blues guy and stuff and Ozzy, you know, used it more of that way and everything.

Interesting.

It's a legacy that won't end.

No, that's for sure.

The 29th season of the voice will premiere in February of 2026 and they're doing something new this time.

There are other coaches Adam Levine, John Legend, Kelly Clarkson.

And if you're wondering what's new about it, well, all three of them are previous winners.

And this will be the first season where all three coaches have won the show before.

I have no idea what I'm saying.

I thought in order to win that show, you had to be a, you were in a star.

I thought, I thought that you, you got on the show because they didn't know.

I don't understand that either.

That's weird.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

And I don't understand these shows.

Sorry, yeah, I don't get it.

I don't understand it.

That's what I do.

I like watching the clips from it.

I wouldn't actually watch it live or you know, try and go out of my way.

But when I come across them and there's some, you know, I do enjoy catching clips of it.

Not the judges' comments, just the performance.

Yeah, right, right, right, right.

And did we, James, and we speak to someone who was on the voice recently?

That's sweet death.

Mr. Kenny P.

That's right.

Yeah.

He had a good run on that show.

Yeah.

Kenny enjoyed his time on the show.

Yeah, he did.

He said he really enjoyed it.

Yeah.

You can catch that interview, everybody at WFHR.com.

That's right.

You should check that interview out.

Kenny's awesome, by the way.

He's great.

Great interview.

Yeah.

What podcast is it on?

Director's Playhouse, of course.

Hey, hey.

Yeah.

Thank you, but listen.

You got to listen to the show.

Yeah, did you listen to the show?

I love so much.

I'm here for you guys.

Yeah.

Thank you.

I am the worst promoter of James Ever.

Like, I am so bad at this, so bad at it.

I just got done.

I only bring it up because my agent just tore me through the ringer about this.

And how bad I am at promoting.

Come on, man.

Everything.

Yeah.

I thought this would be a fun one for us to get into.

And that was before the passing of Ozzy.

I only find it even better now talking about, you know, Ozzy Osborne's lifetime.

And I didn't even mention his cameos as an actor.

Yeah.

Whether it's singing with Miss Piggy, which is legend, right?

It is legend.

Fantastic.

Or one of the greatest cameos ever, his cameo and little Nikki showing up.

It used this.

Oh, it's so good.

It's so good.

Yeah.

So Ozzy acted a little bit too and everything.

And obviously known as a singer mostly.

But what about the reverse?

Actors who tried music first.

Okay.

I think most people would be surprised to learn so many of the people that we love in a certain genre.

Like, I think a good example is George Carlin.

George Carlin really, quoting Kevin Smith here, fell into being the greatest, if not one of the greatest comedians of all time.

He wanted to be an actor.

He studied that acting.

He was a Thespian.

He just never got the chance.

Yeah.

He did get to act here and there.

Yeah.

You see him in movies, of course, here and there.

Yeah.

I don't know if Tom is to tank or train or whatever.

They gave him a chance to do Shakespeare.

I don't know if they really got a chance.

But he did a fine job.

He did.

He read those stories well.

I will give him credit for that.

It's very good at it.

We've talked about this before.

Johnny Depp, Kiana Reeves, our train musicians, and really wanted to be musicians.

They're in bands now.

Yeah.

Still playing.

Still playing stuff.

And then there's the great, the wonderful Maya Rudolph.

Does anybody remember the rentals?

They were the side project of Weezer Basis Met Sharp.

They had a hit in the 90s with Friends of P.

I don't remember that.

I'm going to have to listen to that one.

Maya was a singer for them.

She went on tour with them for six months.

And they promoted the second album.

Opening acts, opening for acts like Blur and a Lannis Moore set.

Wow.

I'm bad.

Maya is also the daughter of singer mini-ripperton.

That would explain that.

Yes.

Mini-ripperton.

Fantastic singer.

Yes.

Absolutely.

There's other good ones on this list.

But I don't believe anybody will be more shocked than this one if you didn't already know it.

Chevy Chase.

Now you're a staple.

You might be shocked at first.

But then as soon as you realize it sits in, you're like, oh yeah, of course.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, Chevy Chase.

While attending Bard College in the late 60s, he played drums in a band called The Leathered

Canary.

The Leather Canary.

That's good band name.

Of course.

He'd be a drummer.

With Donald Fagan and Walter Becker from Steely Dan.

Whoa.

It's the only reason I know this.

It's the reason.

Yeah.

That would be the reason he didn't make it either.

Yeah.

They're like, sorry.

You suck.

You get out of here.

Unless you were literally a perfect musician.

You were never going to survive for all of them.

With those guys.

No, no, no, no.

Brie Larson.

Now this one may be a little more understanding.

A little more well known too, I think.

Yeah.

She released her debut album, Finally Out of PE, at the age of 16.

Unfortunately, only sold like 4,000 copies.

And it didn't do very good.

But she has been able to spin her singing into a lot of roles.

Yeah.

Probably most famously Scott Pilgrim.

Yeah.

Yeah, she did some singing in that.

Yeah.

And a couple other movies too, yeah.

But she's very good.

Yeah.

Miss Marvel.

That's right.

The Marvel.

She's singing that too.

Yeah.

She's good.

A big, big, big fan of Brie Larson.

And a wonderful character actor, Steven Tobolowski, is probably best known for playing the insurance

agent Ned Rynerson in Groundhog Day.

You've seen him a million times in a million movies, bald glasses.

Yeah.

He's a character actor, yeah.

But one of the greater actors you've ever seen, like incredible.

Because everything I was saying earlier about Daniel Radcliffe and tight casting and all

of that.

He's a guy that's been in a hundred movies and you would recognize him as soon as you

saw him.

And yet he's been different in every one of those roles.

And you never know his name, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What is his name again?

Steven Tobolowski.

Okay.

Yeah.

Good.

Groundhog Day and you'll fight his name will pop up pretty quick.

In high school, he was in, quote, a terrible folk rock band called Cast of Thousands.

Again, good band name.

But his quote, his quote.

Yeah, right.

In a great band name.

That is a great band name.

Yeah.

When they were picked to record two songs for a compilation album, one of Steven's band

members recruited a neighbor to add some guitar to it.

Steve Rayvon.

Oh.

Hello.

Yeah.

Wow.

And then he played and they're like, we're not going to make it into this business.

Yeah.

Sorry.

We're not good enough.

I love the stories of people like it happens a lot in athletics and everything.

But like you're the biggest athlete in your school, the most talented person in your school

or whatever.

You're being around other people like, oh, they're really good too.

Yeah.

I looked forward to that.

I wanted that.

I hear from some that that just tells them right away, you know, okay, I'm not good enough.

No.

Big fish in the little pond.

Yeah, exactly.

Big pond.

Yeah.

I think I'm going to be a vet.

I think you're going to be a vet.

Any openings at pharmacy school here.

Let's check it out.

And then finally, although there is a lot more to this, you can check out more of actors

with musical roots in that at Buzzfeed.com.

They've got a great article about famous actors who had totally wild and unexpected music

careers.

Ricky Gervais.

He was in a pop duo called a Siona Dancing.

They released two singles in 83, both of them failed.

There is a video for bitter heart that you have to watch.

And if I was ever like, I don't mind Ricky Gervais.

Right.

I always know what all the pomp and circumstances with him sometimes, but at the same time, I

also get it.

I love his laugh.

I admire a lot of his comedy, even when I don't laugh at it.

I admire a lot of it.

If he, he's also an insult comic, he's one of those guys who didn't sell a lot of people.

I would, I would be throwing this video in his face any time he said anything to me.

All I would say is bitter heart, bitter heart, like right back out, bitter heart has nothing

to do with the conversation.

And even if I had said it five times beforehand, I would bitter heart because you know, I mean,

just seeing a couple of clips here that you get on your computer dance.

It's so 80's.

It is so pretentious.

Oh my God.

For a guy who makes fun of pretentious people, it's like, no, dude, you can't get more

pretentious than this video.

How has nobody brought this up to him?

How he pays them, I don't know.

That's hilarious.

On this whole list, that is easily the funniest one.

That's my favorite.

That's great.

It is so 80's.

God, you got to watch that, whatever.

You got to check that out.

We will take a quick time out.

We come back.

I want to talk about this article Melissa sent over along with something Melissa is working

on.

All right.

I got all that coming up for you.

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I could have put that in there.

It's a burn and free heat.

Oh no.

The heat is.

Oh.

I mean, it's in my head.

Any other bumper I couldn't play.

I had to.

I'm so sorry, everybody.

I want to apologize to the masses.

Oh, man.

I couldn't help myself and I couldn't get it out of my head.

So I had to do it.

Welcome back to the show, everybody.

Thank you so much for putting up with me.

Melissa, thank you for something in here.

Yes, thank you for sticking.

Those of you die hard listeners out there, we appreciate sticking around.

I just heard a lot of eye rolling going on.

Oh, sure.

It's a story of my life, man.

We do want to send a shout out to our colleague Laura out there.

Laura mentioned that the Maya Rudolph's Prince Coverband Princess,

I apologize, I had forgotten about that.

What?

Yeah.

Really?

Oh, it's so good.

Oh, my God.

I want to check that out now.

It's really good.

There was one.

Oh, that's awesome.

A little bit later, after our news and sports and entertainment break,

oh, we've got what profession was once highly respected?

Not so much anymore.

We will get into that.

Okay, one of the touch on this article that Melissa sent over from Gismoto.

I encourage you to check this one out, everybody can go to gismoto.com, and you'll be looking

for new study bolsters, public health case for a four day work week.

All right.

Workers at over 100 companies experience greater job satisfaction has let better once they

switch to a shorter work week and it's work schedule.

For many of us, Monday is the start of yet another dreary week, but new trial research

out might highlight a healthier approach to performing our jobs, a permanent four day

work week.

Scientists at Boston College led the study, published Monday in natural human nature

human behavior.

For six months, researchers tracked the outcomes of nearly 3,000 workers at 141 businesses

after they switched to a four day work week with no pay reduction.

They also compared them to similar workers at jobs that stuck to a typical schedule.

Ultimately, they found that four day workers reported greater job satisfaction and experienced

less burnout than they did before the switch.

As well, when compared to people working a five day week, these improvements were especially

apparent in people who reduced their work time by eight or more hours.

Okay.

And there's so much more to this study, but I'm not going to read it to you.

I want you guys to find it out yourself.

Yes, big article.

Right.

And dive into it.

Is there anything that you want to make sure that we touch on from this?

Well, I just think again, it proves, look at the number of companies that they did this

study with and the amount of individuals.

And they found that, you know, people are happier.

People are more productive.

I mean, they're proving it over and over and over.

I just, I don't know, I don't know if it's safe to place bets on if it'll happen or

when it'll happen, but I think it should.

I'm an advocate.

Yeah.

Oh, absolutely.

I'm 100%.

I would say, I would caution on viewing it in the next three years or so because, you know,

the way people are a lot of people are feeling about studies and science right now, not so

great, right?

Well, it also, you know, like the average people being, you know, a while.

A lot of companies already consider 32 hours a week full time.

Yeah.

That's true.

That's out there already.

So, I mean, it's the, to me, it's like the next logical step.

We are seeing, you know, this is not the first study.

We've already covered many on this show over the last two years or however long it's been.

It seems like it makes total sense to do something like this.

If you want people to work more, be more productive, you know, less burnout.

These are all good things, right?

But for people specifically, a better, you know, work family balance, which is something

you hear a lot about now, too.

So, I mean, it sounds like the wave of the future, you know, when that future is, I don't

know, but, you know, I think it will be.

I mean, we've been talking about it for how many years now?

Yeah.

Yeah.

We've been doing this show together, going, we're getting close to four and I would say

the whole time this has been one of the more consistent thing and there are two main

findings in this study.

First, we find that, and this is a quote from the article, first, we find that the four

day work week improves workers well-being.

This conclusion comes from comparing changes in four well-being indicators between trial

companies and control companies.

The control companies were those that initially expressed interest in participating, but ultimately

did not, for various reasons.

They found that employees in the trial companies experienced significant reductions in burnout

along with notable improvements in job satisfaction, mental health, and physical health.

And last part there, I wanted to make sure to touch on because I don't think about the

physical part of this very much, sitting at a desk all day or at a factory, you know,

doing the same thing over and over again, all day or something like that, going down to

even our construction workers or our truck drivers out there or any of those jobs.

The second major finding is about what explains these improvements.

They examined various work experiences and health behaviors.

They found that three factors played particular significant roles, workability, sleep problems

and fatigue.

In other words, after moving to a four day work week, workers saw themselves as more capable

and they experienced fewer sleep problems and lower levels of fatigue, all of which contributed

to improved well-being.

That makes sense.

Oh, wow.

Does that make sense?

What are we in the game for here?

Is it to see who's got the most toys at the end or to see who's got a good life?

If people that are in control and in power and et cetera, what is their approach?

It's a great question.

It's a divide and it's something that, you know, well, I personally, as a studia

of history, I believe that everything comes in flows and it is fluid.

Life is fluid, time is fluid, all of these things.

I think if you look at time and you look at history, there is a pull and a push every

time.

We're going to go heavy in one direction or we're going to go heavy in another direction.

And I think that we're going to see these things.

We're a young country.

We forget this all the time.

We are a young country.

And just with anything young, there are growing pains.

And I think that we need to get this country off the ground running.

We need to get moving.

So the idea of working our tails off and work, work, work made sense at a certain point.

We had to get America up and running.

We had to show the world what we were, what we are and this we're here to stay.

We've done that.

We're not going nowhere.

This is set.

Now, I know that there is a lot of push.

I know that there's a lot of fear out there and I'm not making light of any of those things.

I empathize and feel some of it myself.

Again, as a studia of history, the realist in my brain, looking at facts, looking at

true science and true history.

I believe that things have been flow and this will too.

And I think that with that, you're going to see an ebb and flow with the work ethic and

the way that we work.

Now, you don't have to change your work ethic just because your hours change.

You don't have to be any less of a hard worker or giving everything you have when you're

on the clock, when you're working.

What needs to be worked on is, you know, the all idea of, hey, this football player wants

to go out there and play, but he's too injured to play.

So what does the coach do?

Don't let him play.

That's what we need to have happen here.

Right.

Exactly.

As Americans, we're raised to work our tails off into the ground we're raised to.

We need more people to be able to be like, hey, that's not a good life.

It's not smart.

It's not a great way to do it.

You don't get to take it with you.

That's right.

And what is one of the oldest things you had?

How many people have heard somebody who is rich and like got more money than to know

what to do with, and they're happy, and they're happy.

Do you look at them and you think, oh, there's a happy person.

When have you ever seen any of these people really smiling or really happy?

I mean, genuine.

Like a real smile.

I'm not talking about ones that they put on for the camera or anything like that.

You never see it.

They're always angry.

They're always grumpy.

That's not living.

That's not actual life.

That's not what they're supposed to be all about.

It makes sense to me that going to a four day work week.

And I would put my work ethic up against anybody's, anybody, I challenge anybody on that

one.

I would like to do, here's something, how about a little more radical change, all right?

We do the four day work week, but we have to do because of the way it's structured, we

need to restructure.

Let's do away with the idea of the weekend, okay?

There's no weekend anymore.

It's just days off, okay?

So you get your schedule set by, each person has their four days, but you rotate it to

a point where every day is covered, but you still have plenty of people working, but they're

only doing the four days, 32 hours or whatever it is, that kind of thing.

We just get rid of the idea of weekends.

We just have days.

How about that?

Anyone with me?

That's pretty radical.

Yeah, actually, if I had my brothers, we would rework the entire calendar.

Because this 31 day thing, just ridiculous, we need a nice uniform way of doing it, and

there's ways to do it, so, yep, but that's just my radical change, though, I mean, it's

hard for people to change.

It is true, it is true.

And that would be a pretty massive one.

It would be, but you know, we can dream, yeah, we have done it in the past, so it's not

impossible.

That is correct.

I think that wearing a seatbelt seemed ridiculous, and nobody was going to do it.

There was a point where recycling seemed ridiculous, and nobody was going to do it.

That was exact.

There was a point where having children work in factories where they lost fingers was

commonplace.

Was common, yeah.

Exactly.

You got it.

Having a four day work week feels like, to me, a win-win in many ways, not only for the

workers, but future workers getting more people into the workforce and that.

And for businesses.

And for businesses.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Having workers that appreciate their job, right?

They're more productive.

Yeah.

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When we come back, we'll talk a little newsletter, we'll talk about these jobs, and we don't respect

as much we use to, and some more fun stuff we got lined up for you on the morning show.

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That beat brings me right back to the early 80s.

Oh boy.

So, instantly, instantly, I'm running around in a pair of Adidas that didn't fit me.

Yeah.

Fun, fun memories.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm probably in a Duke's a hazard shirt or something like that, or something like TV show

or something.

That would be funny.

There was a time when one of the hottest jobs in tech was becoming a manager at Circuit

City.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

That's going back.

That's it there for say, a radio shack.

Radio shack.

Radio shack.

Yeah.

Popular around here and everything.

Yeah.

That was the 80s place with radio shack.

Those were high sought after jobs, in part because you kind of had a, almost a walk into

the tech world.

Yeah.

And a lot of the learn stuff.

Yeah, right.

A lot of those things.

Well, people online are talking about professions that were once highly respected or highly

sought after that now they don't have the nicest words.

I'm just going to say aren't as respected or anything, but maybe they should be.

Maybe we just need to take a look at them again.

That's just my addition, but I think they might see where I'm going with this.

In some cases, it's highly regarded still like careers in education, but others there's

just been a decline.

So here they are and they're not in any particular order.

Retail.

Primary for wage reasons.

But now, this is where the respect should have always been there and should still be there.

We just haven't done a great job of doing this.

Right.

Right.

Absolutely.

And we've got one of the more thankless jobs there is is retail and we need it.

We need retail workers.

We do.

Yes.

The essential.

Yeah.

And go ahead and work out, go through do nothing your whole day or whole running errands

and everything.

Go through nothing but self checkouts and tell me we don't need retail people.

Right.

Have somebody help you with a problem and that a computer can't do and tell me we don't

need retail.

We have the shelves.

Are they stocked?

Very important.

That worker that working at either the gas station or wherever you know you might be thinking

of and everything that knows your order already or that knows you and says hi or something

like that.

Tell me that person doesn't deserve better than minimum wage.

Absolutely.

Like this is a I think I'm going to have a very different take on this article.

Oh, we'll see.

Bank teller.

That's an interesting one.

Someone said it used to be a foot in the door to the finance industry.

Now it's just essentially kind of one of those jobs that you don't see a lot of people

doing.

But apparently there's a lot of 20 year olds that get started in that industry that way.

I have to say someone who was in that industry and started as a teller good what 10 years

ago or so whenever it was good 10, 15 years ago.

Honestly, there was still chance for promotion there.

I have to say.

I mean, there were a couple of opportunities I didn't take because I knew I was going

to be moving or something like that, but I was offered, you know, hey, if you want to

become a loan officer, you know, well, we'll mentor you and that kind of thing.

And I started out as basically a teller.

So I don't know how it is anymore.

I haven't seen recently with, you know, so much more online banking and stuff.

That's really has changed a lot of it because the tellers, you know, don't have as much,

you know, a contact with people as they used to.

There's still some, obviously, but not nearly as much as it used to be.

And I think for people who are ambitious, you know, that take those jobs that there is

still chance for.

Absolutely.

Especially if you let it be known, that's what you're interested in, yeah.

These next two are a little bit of a matter of the times, but taxi driver, wedding photographers.

Those are a little bit of where now they're still really, I think when you meet people

good in the industry, very respected, yeah, very necessary for sure.

But we don't with Uber and Lyft or with everybody having a, you know, a movie studio on their

phone now.

You have a lot of people being able to do their own wedding photography and stuff.

I think we're seeing a theme here right now.

And even going back to retail because there's so much shopping online now that these are

all jobs that because we're doing stuff because of technology, we're doing them a little differently

now.

And maybe that's why we're listing them on this list, right?

Astrologer.

And now Royals used to consult with astrologers that written in the star a lot of those things

that used to be a very respected job.

Like we're talking way back, but yeah, in the 1980s, when our president did that, but,

you know, yes, that's right, that's right.

These next two journalists and politicians.

Now this is something that has been done somewhat self, self, you know, made.

Self-inflicted.

Self-inflicted, thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

It's self-inflicted by them, but it's also something that we've been a part of.

Now looking at politicians, there needs to be accountability.

We need to be able to hold them to a higher regard than we do most people.

That's what you get for being in the job.

You don't like it.

You don't have to do it.

Nobody's ever been forced to be a politician.

That's right.

There are plenty of other ways to make a living, but if you want to do that job, you have

to understand that going into it.

Certain things come with it.

Right.

It's time we have to remember and realize that when we're sitting there watching the

evening news and we're yelling and yelling and yelling at every single politician and

talking trash about every single politician, there are young kids listening to that.

There are other people around hearing that.

And what's the likelihood they're going to grow up and want to do that job?

And I'm talking about our generation.

Let alone this has been happening for generation after generation after.

So is it any surprise nowadays, the average person that goes into politics is what it is.

Right.

I mean, you're absolutely right in that.

This is something that is, if it's a job that's not respected, well, then people who, you

know, you don't respect going into the job, right?

It's one of those, you get what you put in, you get what you put in, this is everything

in life.

Everything is you get what you put in and we have made this ourselves as a society.

Right.

If you're going to have voted in the loser politician, well, you're going to get loser

politicians, you know, basically that's what's going to happen.

There needs to be a balance there of being able to hold these politicians accountable while

also treating them like human beings.

Now I will say that that does go off the window when they start treating us not like human

beings.

Of course.

There is a push and a pull, but that's one human to another.

I don't care about your title.

That doesn't change you from being any different than me.

That's right.

You're no different than me.

You are just as American or just as human as I am.

It's a nice title.

Respect the title, not always the person, but it doesn't give you more.

You're not a king.

You don't get to get away with stuff that others don't and accountability goes both ways.

If I want them to be accountable, I have to be accountable as well and I will only speak

for myself that, you know, I'm as guilty of this as others in many ways and I've worked

very hard to change that.

And working for an airline, you used to be a very classy admirable job.

And that's kind of, you know, not this is trickled down from the way the airlines are

treating people.

Unfortunately, the front line people are the ones that are getting the bulk of the anger

and the negativity exactly.

And they should be the ones getting it.

You are absolutely right.

A male carrier or a male carrier, sorry, yeah, anything more essential, seriously still,

I don't care what anyone says, look at all the online ordering we do.

Are we going to get our stuff?

I mean, seriously.

Well, and the importance of, you know, people who live in rural areas that don't, they don't

get service from other, like UPS and FedEx and Amazon, they don't deliver out to all these

addresses.

USPS does.

Yep.

Especially when Amazon dumps all their packages on the post office and says, here you go.

Yep, we need to not forget that that that's an important vital service.

Absolutely.

A lot of our seniors that require, you know, that their medicines get delivered that way.

That's right.

Truck drivers.

Mm-hmm.

Again, how do our goods and services get to us?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, boy, you know, talking about, you know, jobs that have gotten to the point where,

I mean, they're desperate for people.

Look at every truck that goes by on the freeway and they're like, we're hiring.

We're hiring.

We offer this.

We offer this.

We offer all these things.

Every single one almost, it's, it's like, wow, I mean, well, I mean, it is a driving billboard.

Why wouldn't you advertise it, but still, I mean, it's, I never, I don't remember seeing

it as much as you do back in the day when it was considered, you know, whatever it was,

you know, considered.

It's not the same now.

Yeah.

My papa used to talk about it.

He was leaving the industry.

How, there was this, they didn't want to let them go because they were there, even then

this is like really late 70s, early 80s or something, but they were desperate for

workers.

Yeah.

Wow.

I've been dealing with it since then, really.

Shout out to all of our mayor carlers, our truck drivers and every other industry that we

mentioned here.

Yes.

Just one more to throw out there.

Radio DJs.

Haha.

Very self-serving.

But yes.

Would they ever respect it?

It's a good question.

It's a good question.

A few of them.

Yeah.

There's a very small list.

Paul Harvey, maybe I don't know.

Yeah.

The one.

Yeah.

There's a couple of.

They're Larry King when he was doing it.

They're Larry King.

Maybe they're.

I say this in joking, but I also will say that go ahead and go through your dial and catch

how many actual people are live on the air anymore.

Yeah.

They're fair.

90-some percent of your radio is done by voice tracking or people from not even in the

area that you're listening to them.

Right.

Local radio is on a vine and we here at Civic Media are looking to keep that alive throughout

our whole market, throughout our whole state, and then some.

Yes.

And we here at WFHR and WIRI are at the...

I think at the forefront of that and as stations that are older and established that have

a team that can get the job done, I think we are a good example of this.

I agree.

Not only that radio is important, but radio is relevant and we'll be going forward.

It will always be relevant in some way in shape or form.

I agree.

And the reason that we have that here is because of our listeners.

Thank you, Melissa.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you.

Got to throw that out there.

Yeah.

Please, please, don't stop with things.

I don't have a very big skill set.

I need to be able to do this.

Please let radio still be relevant.

Oh, it was very self-serving.

I thought not.

It's incredible.

That's whole article.

This whole day was about...

No.

We'll be back when we wrap up this show coming up.

WFHR.

Welcome back, everybody.

You say good-bye, and I say hello.

Morning show at WFHR.

Melissa said that James is going to take it to the top of the hour.

I get you ready for other great civic media programming.

I want to touch on our schedule, some good stories of the day,

and want to remind everybody that at noon tomorrow,

you can have a new edition of the WFHR newsletter.

Melissa, how's that going?

Oh, it's going great.

I've got a couple of great interviews that I did

that I'm working on articles for.

I got to go visit a cranberry marsh.

Nice.

Ooh, fun.

I love cranberry.

Yeah, for the end of the week.

And I got so many great pictures.

I can't wait to put this article together.

Nice.

Get those in there.

Glacier cranberries.

I'm not saying it right.

Wait, hold on.

I got it right here.

I got it right here.

It's just going to be.

She's got it.

I got it.

Give me a minute.

Nicely done.

Glacial Lake Cranberries.

There you go.

I want to say the name right.

They make a really awesome product.

And with their honestly cranberries,

it's cranberries with nothing else.

Wow.

It's not raisins.

It's dried cranberries.

Just dried cranberries.

Yeah.

And I've never had cranberries like this before.

You guys, they're light.

Nice.

It's like a feather in your hand.

Wow.

I'm a little jealous.

I haven't been on a marsh in a long time.

There's nothing like being on a cranberry marsh.

I love these.

They're so pretty out there.

I got a picture of swans with their six babies.

Wow.

So cool.

Very cool.

Very cool.

I can't wait.

So I'm working on that.

And I'm working on a couple other articles.

And of course, you know, Michael Colmer's working on our sports

article for us.

And yeah, we'll have a bunch of great, great local Wisconsin-based

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Oh, nice.

She's getting out to it.

Now, she can fix it.

Yeah.

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We've got a new edition of the Rapids Report lined up for you today.

Be listening for that sometime in the afternoon.

We'll have it streaming for you at WFHR.com.

And part one, we're going to hang out with Lance Plummer,

while Coddy Board Chairman.

We'll also have our friends and Wisconsin Rapids Community Media

and look forward to that.

Nice.

And part two, our good friend Ann from the ODC will be with us.

We'll see who else will be joining us as well from the ODC.

We usually have a great group of people who love hanging out

with the ODC.

Great stuff on the radio dial tonight.

Sports-wise, join us from four to five on W1055, WIRI.

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Sports director, Michael Koma, will be joining us today.

We'll have Seth on Friday.

We'll be talking, certainly baseball.

We'll be talking to some of the football schedule coming out

and some of the things coming out from the NFL and all that.

And all kinds of high school sports stuff, too.

We kind of got our tentative broadcast schedule for IRI, too.

That Mike puts together.

And it's going to, oh, man, I'm so excited.

I'm so excited.

I'm going to see if I can talk Mike into maybe teasing

and previewing a little while.

Let's see.

I think you can do it.

You may want to try this.

Have that for you.

And of course, well, I've wrapped our baseball for you tonight.

On the dial 620, rafters are in Fondou Lac still.

I got to catch some of the game yesterday.

I need somebody to answer something for me.

OK.

The Fondou Lac batters all seem to come up

to the theme song from Green Acres.

This confused me.

And it was very distracting to me.

And I need to know the answer to why that, but did they get a deal on it?

It's the weirdest walk-up music I've ever heard of my life.

I don't understand what's going on.

Green Acres is the place for me.

I've had this weird...

Oh, man, that is so life-farming.

I've had since then, I've had in my head

either Aussie Osborne songs or Green Acres theme,

like just a running earworm.

That's a weird combination.

You're telling me.

No wonder you're having Mirage hallucinations.

Yeah, I don't know that.

Be sure to check us and catch our rafter baseball all season long season.

Getting close to wrapping up, everybody.

Get those games.

Seth, we know Wednesday means something else around here, too.

Yes.

But before we get to that, I want to remind everyone

you got about an hour left of the Wood County Veterans Expo

over at the Crossview Church at 1,000 Eastern Riverview Expressway.

Number one, 20 joined the Toma VA Medical Center

and the Wood County Veterans Service Office

as they offer all kinds of interesting information

on benefits for veterans and for their families

and for current serving people.

I mean, there's the list of people there

is really too long to get into.

But we do encourage you to get over there

in that last hour as they wrap things up over there, everyone.

If you're a veteran or a veteran family member,

we do encourage you to do that

because there's a lot of great information

they're going to be offering.

And then later tonight, it is Wednesday.

That means it's time for bingo.

Bingo.

It's bingo.

Yes, three stuages.

Torx open at five.

That was completely unrehearsed, by the way.

I don't feel like that.

Torx open at five, bingo starts at 6.30.

Of course, go ahead and over to the Elk Slodge number 6.93,

4.30 West Jackson Street.

Have some fun with bingo.

Support them for all the support they do.

I do remember, I want to do a quick shout out to them.

I was with my family last night, we were at sweeps,

doing volunteering there.

And the whole infant center is provided by the Elk Slodge.

I don't know if people know that.

So like all of the diapers and the wipes and all that stuff,

they are the ones that provide all of that.

So let's just one of the things you're supporting