Bob Belcher is an Incredible Dad (Hour 2)

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I'm still, I got to say, I'm starting to think that

might change this to everyday people.

Might be changing it.

Might be changing it, everybody.

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Let's get into, oh, we're going to get in some fun stuff this hour.

Coming up, we are going to tackle the very difficult topic of tickling.

We will tackle tickling.

Tackle tickling?

We are doing that.

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Sort of.

We should actually get our HR department involved.

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It's going to be fun.

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A beer company made a dart for workbench hybrid.

We shall discuss all that coming up.

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Right, right.

We got that coming up.

We're also going to get into our newsletter and talk about bluegrass

at the lake.

We have fun stuff coming up.

But right now, I have been dying to talk to somebody about this for about three or

four days now.

And you waited?

I couldn't help myself.

I wanted to do it in real time.

I wanted to do it on the air.

Very nice.

Young guns three.

Plot details.

Timeline cast members are starting to be revealed.

And it is all coming from the director of it.

And really, the guy who has created the third project.

Emilio Esteves.

Really?

Emilio, who, of course, famously played.

Billy, the kid in the Young Guns movie.

Has been working on this.

Has been something that has been going on behind these scenes for probably ten years.

And I think that this is something I know I've talked about this.

I don't know how much I've talked about it with you guys.

As far as, well, what's been, what is Emilio Esteves been up to?

And this is one of the projects he's been doing.

He's been working really hard on this.

Now, there was, there's been some funding issues here and there and everything.

But the reason I bring it up is because this has gotten picked up now.

It has, it has gotten momentum.

There is a, it sounds like there is a script in place.

Lou Diamond Phillips and some other actors have already committed to being in it if need be.

Okay.

They've said they want to be in it.

Certainly.

I don't know if they're going to be.

We do know that Billy, the kid will be in it and that Emilio will play him again.

And that he will be directing it.

Okay.

Wow.

In an interview with Josh Horowitz, happy said confused.

Esteves revealed that he has been going through a potential casting list for Young Guns 3,

which he got the night before I arrived here.

Oh, very fresh.

He said, quote, I'm going to start going through those and start putting together who I think are candidates.

He confirmed that Phillips and Christian Slater will both return.

Oh, Christian.

Slater, of course, famously played the young, another young, I can't remember the character's name,

but he was really a book with Bill or something like that he was.

It was a great role.

Six reasons why the West was wild.

Tagling for Young Guns 2.

I'll make it famous.

It's one of, I just, I don't care if those movies were good or bad or everybody says about them.

I love those movies.

I love them.

I still watch them.

I still watch them.

I don't think I've seen them.

I mean, I've heard obviously the title, but.

It's weird to say this because our generation's outsiders is really the outsiders.

But Young Guns 3 was a little bit older version of that, where it's not just the main guys that you think of on the poster and everything.

You got a bunch of great actors just playing small roles throughout that whole entire series.

Yeah, it's interesting.

Both movies.

The second one ended really weird.

For movies that you needed to really use some imagination for,

Boy, did that second one end?

You really have to work hard on the imagination.

Probably why there wasn't a 3 until now.

And to work out the.

Is it for Southern coming back?

I hope so.

Now, I'll say that in part Seth, I think part of the reason that I can make an argument for a third one is because of the ending of the second one.

Oh, there you go.

Wrap up some loose ends there.

And I will just say that, and I've said this many times, I will continue to say if you are marketing or sales executive right now,

all you need to do is nostalgia.

You start with nostalgia and whatever you're doing is going to do well.

That is just where we have gone.

And this happens more often than not usually.

But it's being more noticed now because it's our age range that they're pandering to.

Right.

And this is the first time our age has been pandered to really.

So it's noteworthy for that.

And a lot of people in our age range that are in media and talking about these things.

And so, of course, they're going to be pandering to it a little bit more.

And I've said this earlier, and it's the only time I'll ever say this in my life, pandered to me.

Please, please pandered to me.

Wait, let's go.

I don't want just young guns three.

I want young guns three and four.

I want two of these.

Yes, please keep it coming.

I can't get enough.

Oh, boy.

Nothing, you know.

They say that they say that, you know, there's not a lot of advantages of getting older or whatever.

I have found one.

Yes.

I have found one.

This is something I've been joy about being in my 40s as being pandered to.

I bought more of it.

I'm excited about this.

I don't know.

We'll see what happens.

And there is still movement still happening here and everything.

So we'll see what happens, what goes with it and such.

I'll add it to my movie list.

Tony, how long is your movie list?

Well, I mean.

I'm as long as my book list.

I had to add Ferris Beeler's day off this morning.

Yes, Greg.

I will try to add it to a movie list somewhere sometime at some point.

I know.

You know what?

I'm going to say this.

So you don't have to do that.

Everyone who talks about, you know, there's a lot of movies from the 80s that I have not seen.

And that I didn't see at the time, just for whatever reason.

And I tell people that and they're like, oh, you got to see.

I say, no, I don't.

Because I have seen some of the movies from the 1980s.

And I'm like, no, no, no, too much questionable stuff there.

I don't, I don't need to see that.

I can just pass on that.

It's kind of sad to think I think you could make an argument.

There's no more like generation of movies that you can't go back to that have aged more poorly than the 80s.

I think you're right.

I don't know Westerns.

Sure, sure.

I could also be another 50, 60, 70s.

There's going to be arguments made telling you as a collective.

Like the big movies that, you know, people.

Oh, revenge of the nerds.

Everybody remembers that movie.

No, you shouldn't.

You know, oh, dear God.

No, movie.

Oh, yeah.

Like that movie may be a loan might be, you know, cancel the whole darn generation.

They're very much other time, you know, and it seems like the 80s a little bit more so.

I don't know, because you can go back.

And yeah, if you go like to the 70s, right, you'll see, you know, the fashions will be the very 70s and all that kind of stuff.

They seem to be tackling more interesting issues in the 70s than they did in the 80s.

In the 80s, in the 60s and 70s, the chances they were taking were about pushing the film into different directions and everything.

In the 80s, the chances were that they were taking were we ran out of ideas.

I'll give you my money.

And the thing about the 80s that are different to me, and you can make this argument for any generation, I won't fight you.

But to me, especially in the 80s, we knew better.

We knew better.

There's none of this.

Well, it was a different time.

No, we knew better in the 80s, man.

Yeah, but that's happening again.

Absolutely.

I was saying that it's not more prevalent.

I agree with that.

And I would say that that's a cyclical thing.

Yeah.

Because in the 60s and the 70s, they were going, no, these things are not okay.

And women shouldn't be treated like this.

And they should be able to vote, and we should be able to treat that with all people with respect.

And then in the 80s, it was a boomerang of, oh, well, now we did that.

We got to go back to the other way.

Well, and I think it has a lot to do with the political climate too.

I agree.

Very much.

Yeah, if you look at what movies are being made at a specific time, and you see, well, who's in power at the time,

then it's, oh, yeah, there seems to be a little bit of a connection there.

Yeah.

And then I think it's happened again, where we had a little bit more enlightenment and a little more steps forward in the late 90s and early 2000s.

And now we're back into that boomerang again.

It's similar thing is going on with a lot of the stuff in the entertainment industry, especially in movies.

I think a good example of this is the current Snow White movie.

And then wanting to, you know, update that and try to not just modernize it,

but make it so that little girls of any different color, of any different creating hair color and hairstyle could look at Snow White and they imagine themselves.

There's not a lot of that that could happen.

My little sister grew up when that one Disney princess did she look at and think she could be that princess.

There wasn't a single one.

Hopefully it's different now.

At the same time, you're seeing that these movies are not doing well.

And money rules all.

Exactly.

No amount of woetness or canceling or any of this kind of words or word of the day stuff is going to change that part of it.

And that is one of the things that I do worry about.

Because representation matters.

Everybody to see your movies.

The other caveat to that though is the fact that there are so many movies being made now that are not being made in Hollywood.

That are being made like we could make a movie guys with our phones.

That's right.

And put it out there.

And if it was a hit, you know, I mean, so Hollywood's got to step up.

I got a great script for us.

Awesome.

We all play bank robbers.

This sounds original.

And we pull off one of the biggest highs in American history.

But as we're getting to our safe house, we hear on the radio.

Because this is how old the script is.

The bank robbers got away and half of the money is counterfeit.

And don't know which half is which.

Oh, okay.

All right.

So now that we turn on each other, because we split it.

Not to spoil it, but no, that didn't happen.

Okay.

So can we set up with Sheriff Becker, which bank we're going to replace?

Probably good idea.

Probably good idea.

Talk with him first.

We should just go in and do it.

That would, that would be bad.

We're just filming a movie guys.

I don't know.

Sure you are.

I would cash on.

This is either a great idea or a horrible one.

I cannot tell.

I might, I'm too biased, I think on it.

There is a kiss biopic being put into place and being worked on right now.

I'm not shocking to anybody.

The only shocking thing is they didn't do this sooner.

But they have cast Paul Stanley.

And it's Nick Jonas.

Oh.

Nick Jonas, the first famous from the Jonas Brothers and everything.

Yeah.

Has since getting away from the Disney stuff, the Jonas Brothers have certainly done a much more.

I wouldn't say adult stuff, but they've done things before.

Or mature stuff.

Yeah.

Audience.

Yeah.

I think you can make an argument and granted everybody, I know nothing about the Jonas Brothers

or Disney even really that much.

Disney Channel shows.

Right.

And Disney stars and stuff I should say.

I know Disney, but not that.

But I will say that they seem to have just kind of followed their fans.

Their fans have gotten older and they've gotten older and it's just kind of,

they seem to go on with that.

I know that they've necessarily pushed boundaries or done.

I want to be hesitant how I say that because I look at somebody like Brittany Spears or

some other Disney stars that really went in a completely different direction.

Miley Cyrus and some of that.

Sure.

I don't know that they've gone that route.

But they've definitely aged with their audience and they do a lot of self-deprecating stuff.

And obviously they're talented.

They can say for sure.

Yeah.

Nick Jonas doesn't look that different from Paul Stanley.

So there is that too.

There's a resemblance.

Yeah.

I would have liked to have seen them cast a Jewish man.

I would like to a little bit more of that.

In this day and age, nobody blinks an eye if somebody is playing a Jew that isn't Jewish.

It happens literally in almost every movie.

It is more uncommon to see an actual Jewish person playing a Jewish person in film than anything.

It's honestly gotten to a point where I don't even bother talking about it anymore because nobody cares.

If you were casting somebody to play an African American and they were not African American, people would lose their minds.

Emma Stone is still dealing with stuff because she played a person that had a bit of Hawaiian culture in them or something.

And she didn't have enough look for the character.

But I can cast a blonde blue-haired guy as a Jew and nobody is going to blink an eye.

I'm sorry.

I'm the only person on this hill and I'll stop.

But I had this microphone in front of me and I cannot help myself.

It's insulting.

And nobody gives a damn.

So that's also just as insulting to me.

But Paul Stanley and Nick Jonas seems like a pretty good fit.

I am much more curious about where they're casting Gene Simmons.

I can't imagine who you're going to get to play Gene Simmons.

God.

Did they need a fake tongue?

How do they get that pre-hensal tongue out there?

I'll tell you this, I'll be shocked if Gene Simmons is okay with whoever they can.

Oh no, he won't be.

They could cast Gene himself.

And I don't think they'd be happy with it.

Because he's a jerk.

And I'm a kiss guy.

I like this.

I'm a fan of the band and everything.

I like the idea of them doing a biopic.

I like where this is going.

I'm just very nervous about the casting.

You may not have a fan base more ready to pounce on this movie than that fan base.

And here's something else.

When you're making these movies that are biopics on the artist or that,

why not look more into the fan base?

Why not lean more in sense?

Isn't this one you're making the movie for?

Right.

I can't understand.

I'm not saying that you go to every single Kiss Army member and ask them their opinion.

But why not surveys to the Kiss Army website or different things like that?

It's an input.

Imagine you're hoping this is going to sell.

And I think the biggest problem, the biggest one of the biggest mistakes that these production companies make is,

oh, well, we've got that audience.

Let's get the other parts of the audience.

We already got the Kiss fans.

They're going to come to this movie.

No, they may not.

They may not, man.

You know, especially you're going to cast somebody.

Again, Nick Jonas could maybe be the perfect person to play Paul Stanley.

But if you're not asking, because that's what it is.

We see this in sports all the time.

Oh, we're going to make a head coaching decision.

Let's go talk to the star player.

Now, the star player shouldn't be necessarily making the yes or no on this.

But getting their feedback, what is it hurt?

What is it hurt?

It doesn't hurt anything.

It doesn't mean you have to take it.

But then they feel invested.

Yes, yes.

I have that perfect solution to this.

They should base it on the comic book from Marvel in the late 70s.

Oh, well.

And that was crazy and insane.

It's totally Kiss, though.

That's the thing.

Yeah.

It totally represents Kiss.

Do that.

We have got here a list of the best TV dads of all time.

Time, time, time.

They are in alphabetical order.

Oh, good.

I first knew that first.

So it's not in any particular order.

But I do want audience participation on this one.

I want to know who your favorite TV dad is of all time.

There's a lot of great ones.

But I think mine is right at the top.

And it just alphabetically works out that way.

Mr. Albany premiered with children.

I love Al.

Is he a cautionary tale?

Yes.

Of a father.

Definitely.

Don't be like him.

Definitely.

But I got it.

I love it.

Let's tell.

He's very funny.

And I love that these just happen to go this way in alphabetical order.

You go from Al Bundy to Andy Taylor from the Andy Griffith show.

You could not have more to offer it.

Or different.

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

Great whistler.

Great dad.

Nice, nice.

Great dad.

Archie Bunker from all in the family.

Ajay.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

Bob Belcher from Bob's Burgers.

Fantastic dad.

Fantastic dad.

Really good dad.

That's awesome.

I love Homer.

You guys know I feel about that.

He's way better than Hover.

No way.

Way better.

Karl Winslow from Family Matters.

That's a good one.

Oh, that was good.

I like him.

I don't know any of these dads yet.

See, you're hopefully we're going to get this.

You missed out, Melissa.

You missed out.

Dan Conner from Roseanne.

Oh, good.

It's good.

I love John Conner.

Yep.

And a great dad.

Danny Tanner from Full House.

Yeah.

Him, like I did see that.

I did see Full House a little bit.

Okay.

But I was far more interested in Marikate Ashley Olson.

Oh, okay.

Well, that's fair.

That's fair.

Fred Sanford from Sanford.

That's an interesting one.

That's an interesting one.

You know, for the most part, sure.

But also, I don't know.

Oh, boy.

This list is interesting.

God, I wish I could do an impersonation of him.

Herman Munster from the Munsters.

Yeah.

It might be a literal monster.

Yeah.

But also one of the better dads on this list.

And actually, he's probably of the ones you've listed.

He's probably one of the best at actually being a father.

Yes.

Yes.

Homer Simpson from The Simpsons.

Of course.

Now, yes.

I've definitely got his issues in everything.

But boy, does he have his kids back?

Like he really does.

And I wanted to say that about Elbundi because Elbundi, obviously,

a very bad dad and all those things and did a whole, you know,

some pretty very questionable if they're wrong things with his kids.

But anytime one of his kids was in trouble,

anytime somebody like a bully or anybody that's not like that happened,

Al was the first one there.

And they always had that in the story.

They could make fun of each other.

Nobody could rip on each other like they could.

But as soon as somebody from the outside started ripping on one of their family members

or something, like a pack of holes around each other and everything.

I love that about that.

It's the relationship between me and my older brother.

Howard Cunningham from Happy Days.

Oh.

I never saw him.

I'm a Bosley man.

I do know Tom Bosley play.

Tom Bosley play.

Yeah, he was, that is, that is a good one because he was fantastic.

Jason Sever from Growing Pains.

Mike Brady from The Brady Bunch.

Was he even really in the show much?

What?

Who?

Mike Brady.

Probably not because I know that Robert Reed hated it.

Yeah.

He hated playing that character.

He hated it.

You could tell.

Yeah, you could tell.

It's probably why you didn't see him very much.

Phil Dumpi from Modern Family.

Phillip Banks from The Fresh Prince of El Air.

Oh.

Oh, right.

Traditional father.

Red Foreman from That 70s Show.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

Boy, I have to say, that show was, you know, it was fine.

It was everything.

But they hit the Midwestern father.

Yes.

Perfectly.

And he played it.

He played it.

Absolutely perfectly.

Perfect.

Yes.

That is one I can say.

I have seen a lot of.

It's funny.

Whenever I think about that show now, I barely think about the kids on that show.

Right.

It's those two.

The parents, the parents, they were funny.

Yeah.

They were the best.

They stole that whole attire show.

Let's see.

Tim Taylor from Home in Pervent.

When he's looking over the fence and having the conversation with Wilson.

With Wilson.

Yeah.

Tony Misselli from Who's the Boss?

And Ward Cleaver from Leave It to Beaver.

Another person who hated the role he was playing.

Really?

Yes.

I'm blanking on his name right now.

The actor that played him.

But yeah, he hated that.

Hugh Beaumont.

Hugh Beaumont.

He hated playing that.

Yes.

And of course, do you guys have any honorable mentions?

I have just a comment on this.

Interestingly enough.

Okay.

I'm thinking back to when we did the mother's day when we did the same thing.

Right.

Best TV moms.

The criteria for these two are very, very different.

Yes.

Yes.

Because all the moms that we talked about were like traditional moms stuff.

You know, caring, the care group.

You know, pulling the family out of the wacky situations.

You know, that they would get themselves into.

And on this list, the fathers tend to be the comic relief.

Right.

They tend to, so a lot of them aren't really good dads traditionally in the traditional sense of being good fathers.

Right.

But they're the funny ones.

Right.

Which is the more, it seems to be more of the criteria that they were funny than they were,

because the moms were not considered funny.

They were like the rock that held the family together.

Really, the model that Ozzy and Harriet did.

Really?

In a lot of ways, boy, they haven't changed much since then.

You're absolutely right.

The bumbling father and the wife who's got it all, the mother who's got it all together, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't see.

I'm not seeing one to rival any of those.

We will take a quick break.

We'll come back and have some more fun on the morning show.

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That's no problem.

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They got their 50-50 drawing.

That'll be happening.

Be sure to check that out.

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Yeah.

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That one's free and open to the public.

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Hi.

Seth, there's pie.

And of course the music.

There is going to be some amazing musicians down there are going to be performing.

We've gotten to talk to some of them around him.

We've had a lot of fun with that.

Yes.

All of this going on.

And it's such an amazing cause.

It's such a great group of people and a great organization among many organizations.

Many things that they're doing for this.

Yeah.

They're donating to, I want to say it's the crisis team this year.

Yes, the CISM for Wood County.

Yes.

Which is a CISM.

CISM.

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We talked to Carolyn yesterday, of course, on the Sunrise Show.

And she mentioned that that is actually expanding to Portage County.

Oh, good.

So they're the whole coverage area.

And that's one of the reasons they've been supporting in the last couple of years.

So they can be able to do that.

Which I think it's just fantastic.

Oh, it's really important.

It is.

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That's right.

They've done some great work with them over the years.

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They're helping out our South or County main society as well.

And shout out to Denise and the gang over there.

They'll be joining us tomorrow for a pet of the week.

Yeah.

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Socrates wondered about this topic 2,000 years ago.

And Charles Darwin racked his brain about it.

What is a tickle?

And why are we so sensitive to it?

We do not shy away from the heavy topics around here at WFHR.

We will face them with you as a family, as a team, as a community.

Let's talk about this.

Why can't you tickle yourself?

And how come some people aren't ticklish at all?

While others seem to look the wind hits them.

Right.

And they immediately feel ticklish.

Neuroscientist, Constantine Kilantin.

What a name.

Wow.

Believes we should tackle tickling research more seriously.

And she's working with colleagues in a new tickle lab

at RAB home university to get some answers.

A tickle lab.

Tickle lab.

I hope they serve pickles there in the tickle lab.

Got it right.

It's a complex interplay of motor, social and neurological development

and evolutionary aspects, says Killian, who says the subject is, quote, under researched.

If we know how tickling works at the brain level,

it could provide a lot of insight into other topics in neuroscience.

That's true.

Tickling can strengthen the bond between parents and children, for instance.

But how does the brain process ticklish stimuli

and what is the relationship of the development of a nervous system?

By investigating this, you can learn more about brain development in children.

Interesting.

Very interesting.

Wow.

Here's another part I don't know if it's common knowledge.

We know that apes such as bonobos and gorillas respond to ticklish touches

and even rats have been observed to being so.

So we're not even the only species that it gets ticklish.

How about that?

From an evolutionary perspective, what is the purpose of tickling?

What do we get out of this?

The fact that you cannot tickle yourself is also interesting from a scientific point of view.

Quote, because we know when we are going to tickle ourselves,

the brain can't switch off the tickling reflex in advance.

But we don't know what exactly happens in our brain when we are tickled.

So we have one piece of this puzzle.

We don't really have a whole lot else to it.

Exactly.

Quillantine urges that these questions have not yet been answered

because it has not been clearly defined what tickling actually is within the scientific community.

There is a difference between when you tickle someone hard on your armpits

and tickling someone's back or feet, lightly with a feather.

The first sensation is understudied while we know much more about the second feather like stimulation.

So they created a chair with a plate that contains two holes in it.

Study participants will place their feet through the holes where a mechanical stick will tickle their souls.

The way every tickle experiment is the same.

That way every tickle experiment is the same.

Oh wow.

Yeah, there's nothing more reassuring than just stick your feet in this hole.

You know, nothing bad's going to happen.

I wonder how much that plays into things too.

It's like a logical effect of, yeah, not knowing when you're going to get touched or like that would totally freak some people out.

Yeah, for sure.

The neuroscientist record exactly what happens in the brain and almost immediately checks all other physical reactions

such as heart rate, sweating, breathing or laughter and screaming reactions.

Wow.

Quote by incorporating this method of tickling into a proper experiment, we can have tickling researched seriously.

The university media released.

We can only be able to truly understand tickling but also our brains because this is really what this is about.

It's figuring out the brain more.

Exactly.

Exactly.

But why is it only the feet?

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

Is there the most ticklish maybe?

For some people.

For some people, yeah.

I read two different articles on this and I didn't see anything about that.

Why the feet?

That's a good question though.

It seems like children are more ticklish than adults but maybe it's just that the real world conditioning has tampered down the childish

birth through the years could be.

Maybe the experiments in the lab will spur people to be more inclined to tickle their loved ones or tickle their own funnyboat.

My mom has three sisters and for a very long time they were as thick as thieves.

They were at odd chemistry in a way of reading each other.

And I know this because for two Christmases on the row, they thought it would be hilarious when they got bored and had a little bit of wine.

Each one of them grabbed a limb while one of them would tickle me.

Wow.

I still...

I don't know if I'm ticklish anymore because they did this so much that I actually don't think I'm that ticklish anymore.

I'm sure some parts of me, but I numb to it almost.

And I guarantee you, somewhere my mother is laughing her tail off right now.

Remembering that you said you had some blessing.

Well, you know, I got tickled so much as a kid that I, from my older brother and probably, you know, other family members, but I learned how to turn it off so that I could stop being ticklish so that they would stop tormenting me.

Right.

Because I was like, you know, I don't know, tickling is a, it can be fun.

Obviously there are, but when you take it too far, it can also be torture.

Yeah.

And it can be a weapon against people in a way or children, I guess, is a better way of looking at it.

Kid on Kid Cry.

I mean, there's something that we do all the time as kids and we're going to threaten to tickle each other.

But it can also be fun, you know, like I have a fun relationship with, with Quinn, who is Laura's youngest daughter and she loves being tickled.

But, you know, I never do it where it hurts.

Right.

That's the difference because that was something that happened to me as a child and I'm like, it's not fun then.

Well, it becomes invasive.

Yes.

After a certain point and there's always a point where it stops being...

Yes, when you're overstimulating.

Exactly, exactly.

And I'm sure it's different for many different people, you know, we're all at a different levels on this kind of thing.

But yeah, there really is to the point where it does become a problem that just should know.

You need to stop.

It's interesting that I literally, like I felt like it was a superpower when I was a kid.

Like I can turn it off.

You can tickle me and I won't react unless you're like hurting me.

And then that's not tickling anymore.

But it is something later in life.

Like I would have liked to have had that with my partner.

You know, like it would have been a fun...

Well, an example of...

Shruff house.

In example, yeah.

That was a hard no.

With Beth when we first met and were dating, she was not ticklish.

She is very ticklish now.

To her enjoyment.

To her enjoyment.

Right, exactly.

I've heard of this happening with women specifically after childbirth.

I've only heard like three times just that's the third one.

But I've heard of this happening a couple of times.

Do you think that this is something that deserves or should be researched?

I do.

You should be putting time into it.

Yeah.

It's one of those fascinating things because it's all brain.

Yeah.

It's all brain.

This is not...

The fact that we're talking about you being able to turn it off.

Someone who's not ticklish becomes ticklish.

That means it's all here.

It's all in the head.

Yeah.

Right?

And that's a fascinating thing.

Because they're not just going to learn about tickling.

They're going to learn a bunch of stuff about the brain.

Which it's all connected.

Which we don't know.

We don't know.

You know, there's so much about the brain that we don't know.

James is trying to tickle his own feet.

Is that nothing?

See?

Do you want me to tickle your feet?

I did.

I do have clean socks on it.

I do.

No.

See?

I did it.

It did.

See?

Wow.

We just did our own experiment.

I actually thought, oh, I'm good.

He's flushing.

I didn't think that was going to get big.

I didn't think it was.

I didn't think it was.

All right.

Now everybody knows James's feet are ticklish.

It's right above the heel.

Yeah.

There you go.

Right in the arch.

I didn't feel it at first.

It was right there.

Like that.

I will say too.

I don't know.

I'm just enjoying so much of what we are in science and where we are technologically, where

we're able to even do this stuff.

That we have the amount of time and energy to be able to do this.

We're not too busy trying to hunt down food.

Exactly.

And for everything like anybody out there that thinks this is a silly subject and, well,

we shouldn't be wasting time effort and money into it.

I'm not going to fight you too hard on that.

But I will say this, you put the brain in front of you.

Okay.

We got this, this, and this figured out.

Well, the only way to figure out these other things is to figure this one thing out.

And this other thing out that connects to that stuff.

We're still mapping the brain in 2025.

Right.

And that's amazing to me.

I think that we are now starting to tackle the mountain of mental health.

You know, like to discover more about the brain to understand why we have so much struggle

with mental health in this society, in this world right now, with where we're at.

These kind of things are going to help with that.

Because guess what?

Your brain sabotages you.

A lot.

Brain does a lot of stuff.

Yeah.

That stuff that we could control if we knew how to.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I might disagree with you that on a little bit.

I don't know if we could control it.

Honestly.

I can turn off tickling.

Why can't I turn off depression?

Because you're a sum of every experience that you've ever had to this point.

And that doesn't mean that you necessarily are making free will decisions.

Not to get too heavy.

Okay.

I like it.

I like it.

You know what?

I've been reading a lot about this recently.

You can tell.

Yeah.

That's interesting though.

But the fact that my brain can go.

Okay.

You know what?

You're just going to have a really bad day today because of these unexpected things that happen

to you.

And then.

But there's got to be a way that I can overcome that.

Right?

Right.

Not necessarily.

So I'm just going to have a bad day.

I don't know.

It depends on everything that's happened to you before.

It's determined by everything that's come before it.

That's the thing.

All right.

That's dilemma.

Let's talk off there because I have words that I can't say on air.

It's an interesting one and I look forward to it.

Let me just get my popcorn.

There you go.

Watch it.

I will say other than the movies.

I don't disagree with you though, Seth.

I don't.

I'm not like straight up disagreeing with you.

But it's an interesting conversation now.

And I think it's something we should talk more about.

I agree.

It's a community as a society.

Absolutely.

But also you and I.

While there are some things uncertain about this topic and everything,

one thing I am certain of, if I went to school and became a scientist,

there are a few people in the world that will be more proud of me than my mother.

And when I went to her and I told her, I'm going to work today.

Where are you working?

Take a lab.

It's just the look on her face.

Yeah.

Go to school for eight years or something.

I studied the brain.

Go into the take a lab.

I'm going into the take a lab.

I just could imagine a look on her face.

We will take a time out and come back in the morning show.

You say yes.

I say no.

I say no.

I say stop.

I say go, go, go.

Oh no.

You say goodbye and I say hello.

It is time for us to say goodbye.

Bye everybody.

Just for today, we'll be back at it's mile from 9 to 11.

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Kim is out of town.

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I don't want to shout out to Kim, but it's always fun talking with Linda.

And Linda is bringing in Heather Sears.

Heather Sears.

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Why does that sound familiar?

Does sound kind of familiar.

Heather, for years, joined us on our morning show here to give us updates from the Wisconsin Rapid City Times.

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Yeah.

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