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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.
Good morning.
It is 6 0 6 on this Monday morning, May 5th, 2025.
It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the civic media radio network on the civic media app.
watching us on YouTube or Facebook, listening later by podcast.
We thank you for starting your day and your week right here.
I got a question for you.
There are many different signs of spring and melting snow, baseball season, the fishing opener.
What's one that is personally one of your favorite markers that spring is really back?
I got to experience a couple of mine yesterday, putting up the hammock for the first time and just kicking back there for a little while, swinging alongside the lake and switching the Jeep from the hard top over to the soft top and dropping the top and going for a ride and it's just sunny and gorgeous and that is, if that doesn't say spring, I don't know what else does.
You know what else does?
playoff hockey.
And we'll talk more about that coming up in just a bit.
But coming up on the program this morning, my goodness, so much stuff.
We're going to be evaluating some comments made over the weekend by Josh Schoeman, the first official Republican candidate in the 2026 race for governor.
We will be talking to another candidate for Congress.
Laura Benjamin is the third and most recent candidate to announce a run for Congress and the third congressional district against Derek Van Orden.
We'll talk to Up North News reporter Selena Heller, introducing us to a drag performer who is encouraged at some of the increased representation of the LGBTQ community in the Wisconsin legislature, even as the attacks wrap up from the far right section of the legislature.
On this National Great Lakes Awareness Day, we'll talk to Janine Sonoda of the Wisconsin chapter of the Sierra Club about a project designed to set a world record.
as part of their effort to demonstrate public opposition to the Enbridge Line 5 oil pipeline up north.
We'll also visit with Nick Ramos of the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign about their upcoming anniversary, 30 years of exposing money in politics and other ways the system is being rigged against regular folks.
That and so much more.
Still to come today.
And of course, along the way, you can join the show too.
855-75-CIVIC is the phone number.
855-75-248-42.
Joe and Superior on the text line.
Smelting season, or smelting season, depending on your preference.
Yes, very much an indication.
Let's see, for Alicia.
Seeing the beginnings of sunrise at 4 a.m.
and hearing the birds on my way out of the house at 3.30.
Yes, most definitely a leash.
I love taking the garbage out this morning, you know, and it was just a hint of light in the horizon there.
And just hearing the birds already going at it was was just great.
Along with the phone number, you can text your comments as Joe and Superior did text them to 855-75 Civic or
You can also use the Civic Media app or you can use Facebook or YouTube and put something in the comment section.
We may see it right there.
Temperatures around the state for the bus stop at 6 a.m.
Look like this.
It's 45 here in Chippewa Falls and in Hayward.
Amory's at 52.
Wasaw 46.
Wisconsin Rapids 45.
La Crosse is at 52.
Green Bay 48.
Madison is at 45 right now and in the Milwaukee area it is 48 degrees and at Radio Park is where we find one Greg Bach.
One hard-working weekend man who gets
So precious little time to rest and recharge the batteries, but that's what Sunday is supposed to be for.
Mr. Bach, good morning.
Is that what Sunday was used for?
No.
don't think we've
Whatever.
Okay.
But I loved seeing the photos from the, uh, was it in Madison or Milwaukee?
It wasn't Madison.
It wasn't good.
It wasn't Madison.
Yeah.
All right.
I wish it was Milwaukee Hall.
Um, Maggie Dawn.
was up here in the Chippewa Valley speaking to the Eau Claire County Democratic Party annual dinner.
I
Great to see folks there.
I loved collecting a little love for everything on civic media.
And then she says, you'll have to excuse me.
I can't stick around.
I got to get her right down to the WBA banquet.
And sure enough, there I see her on social media.
Not long after that, I'm sure breaking no speed limits.
She's getting there to get some to get a couple of awards for her show as well.
But it was a lot of driving for her, I'm sure.
But it was a good night.
It was interesting to see the awards.
It was interesting to see other stations and what they present and all those things.
But it was also wonderful to finally meet people who work with me but don't work next to me.
So it was a fun night.
But it was a fairly tame night for me.
I did not imbibe any alcohol.
was in bed by 10.15 or 10.30.
And I, because I had to be up, I had a meeting in the morning and had to get driving back to southeastern Wisconsin.
So, so yeah, it was, it was, it was a fun night, but Sunday was a lot of, but finally at six o'clock kickback, me and my dog, just watching TV.
yes.
Me.
Honestly.
Honestly, at, at 2 45.
Yeah.
Having, having still not fallen asleep.
I took the, the little.
electrodes and everything off.
It's because clearly I was in my own head and some had fully kicked in.
And after lying there for five hours, I was like, I'm not falling asleep.
Okay.
So it took that off and I'd fall asleep right away.
No, didn't fall asleep till about 4am.
Normally when I wake up to so yeah.
So yesterday was a little slow.
Yeah.
But still got to we like I said, we took the top down on the Jeep we
helped Sherry mop all the hardwood floors around the house.
And so that was a bunch of sweeping and moving furniture and things.
We had to watch some bald eagles flying above us along the Chippewa River, which
was
in
politics by and large, but let's go off board.
Let's throw out a question of the week that you, it's sports adjacent.
You don't have to know sports to have an opinion on this one.
Is it time to trade Yanis?
Yes or no?
Yeah, that's right.
See, that elicited some responses.
And you can as well.
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Because, again, I just loved Dan Shafer's reaction last week after the bucks were eliminated.
I said, Dan, let's try, nope, nope.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
very very long time and I would you know I would like to see that again and so there's a there's the Winnipeg Jets and they were playing the St.
Louis Blues game seven up in Winnipeg and when I tuned out because obviously I needed to catch up on sleep last night but St.
Louis was up to nothing and
I didn't really think anything of it.
Well, Winnipeg's probably going to get eliminated.
And sometimes the best part of my day is a little after four in the morning, sitting there with my bowl of special K and going through my phone and seeing highlights and seeing the way the caption reads.
I'm like, oh, wait a minute, I got to look at this.
And sure enough, Winnipeg with an empty net.
So an extra attacker scored with 1.6 seconds left to send the game to overtime.
double over time, uh, get, got the winning goal and advanced in the NHL playoffs and just, that's not just the crowd watching the crowd.
A hockey crowd is amazing.
Yes.
Especially when you get a goal at like, you're 1.6 seconds away from losing.
Yeah.
And you tie, but it's not just that crowd going wild.
Then they show some scene and you see this more frequently all the time, like the deer district, uh, people outside the arena.
Would you like to restart?
No, I miss hockey.
My wife and I miss hockey.
My wife got me into hockey and we were big Blackhawks fans.
And after the big Blackhawk scandal, we were kind of like, you know what?
This doesn't feel good anymore.
And so we always talk about hockey and we wish we had a team closer.
And I think maybe we'll start like, I'm going to see if she wants to just pick a new team.
There you
There was sports closer to home.
Freddie Peralta pitched six sharp innings and I was afraid it was going to go for not after losing those first two games to the Cubs.
But the Brewers finally figured out how to string together some hits and score some runs and they beat the Cubs for nothing.
Freddie struck out seven and lowered his ERA, get this to 2.18.
So the Cubs still take two out of three from the Brewers, but the Brewers stay home.
They will host the Houston Astros today tomorrow and Wednesday and then they head back on the road to Tampa and Cleveland at the end of the week But they've got baseball at American Family Field Monday Tuesday Wednesday starting at 6 0 5 tonight at WRCE in Cleveland WISS in Oshkosh WRJN and Racine Kenosha WC QM and Park Falls and WBZH and Hayward So there's where you go if you're in those areas tune in to your local civic media station
When we come back, we're going to play back some comments from the Washington County executive, who's now a Republican candidate for governor and evaluate what he had to say.
From the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thank you for making this place to spend a part of your mornings.
I'm Pac Wright Law, and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.
Hey, welcome back.
It is just about 623 on this Monday morning.
Appreciate everybody's input on everything here.
Alicia tells me the sleep test is required.
Pat, you'd have to do that.
She said she's been partial to
The Red Wings, since watching them in the Stanley Cup in 2002 and for College Hockey, stays loyal to the Michigan Tech Huskies.
So again, thanks for all the comments on social media and also through the text line.
Appreciate getting all those as well.
I'm not going to dwell a lot on national headlines today other than to call out.
I'm going to do NBC Nightly News last evening.
their their big banner headline on the screen was exclusive interview with President Trump.
Not, Trump says unconstitutional things.
You know, Trump says he doesn't know if he backs due process rights.
And all I would say again is this isn't even a Joe Biden thing or a Democratic Republican thing.
Imagine if George W. Bush during the Iraq War.
Said I don't know if I believe in due process and if he said well you have to talk to the lawyers about those things I mean the story then is President lacks a basic knowledge of American civics But again, we got an exclusive interview on meet the press so we've got to tell that it's an exclusive interview As opposed to actually paying attention to the words
That's what we do here.
We pay attention to the words.
And so here on radio, we're going to be playing the words of Josh Showman, the Washington County executive.
Now, if you were to look at the full report as done, as always, extremely well by Charles Benson over at TMJ4 in Milwaukee, you'd hear some great questions.
You'd see the chickens on his farm and the lavender and all of that.
That's fine.
That's a good personal profile.
But I'm going to play for you.
just 40 seconds it's four different answers to questions and then we're gonna talk about each one of them on the other side but here's in 40 seconds or so here are four different answers that kind of outline his outlook toward being governor where he talks about Washington County and answers questions from Charles Benson.
Well I think Wisconsin needs a new governor.
Why?
Listen, the last six years, I think, Wisconsin has found itself in a worse off position in many ways.
We've made significant investments.
Public safety, we've seen significant investments there.
Our county highways are fully funded through 2060 without raising taxes.
Mental health services, election integrity, economic development, I could go on.
And I think you need to start with the people's priorities, identifying what those are.
Over the next 18 months, that's exactly what I intend to do.
I give President Trump a lot of credit.
I'm very excited for what he is.
working towards right now, and that is completely resetting the table, getting the focus back on the trading of goods and services, and putting America first.
All right, well, let's look at these statements that he's made.
The first off, of course, is not true on its face, saying that, well, we need a new governor because the last six years, we're in a worse off position.
Wisconsin's recovery from the pandemic led the nation and the only reason Wisconsin continues to have a strong economy is having Governor Evers there to veto away the worst ideas that come out of the legislature like taxing, cutting taxes just for the very rich.
It would be not having Governor Evers there for these last six years that would have put Wisconsin in a far worse
position if we had had another term of Scott Walker or if we would have had Tim Michaels in as governor.
And now we've got a candidate who's sounding exactly like Tim Michaels and exactly like Eric Hovde.
He talks about his county, Washington County, being able to fully fund its priorities, being able to fully fund its roads and things.
And yeah, that's a pretty nice thing for an affluent suburban county to have.
And remember a big reason for that affluence whether you like the big scary city of Milwaukee or not It is the hub of this state's economic engine and you can trash talk it all day long But that's where the jobs are where your folks are going and getting a paycheck and bringing it back And that's the reason you have the funds to make sure that you can have roads and and all the nicest schools
Whereas if you heard us last week talking about Milwaukee Public Schools, four of those buildings they're using are still from the 1800s.
He talked about identifying people's priorities.
And I would like to take him at his word.
And so what would have been helpful is if he had said, we want to identify people's priorities like extending Medicaid to more families, like extending postpartum care to new moms.
like continuing to defend non gerrymandered maps, like investing in public education, like fixing the immense gap in funding special education between public schools versus private schools in the state.
So if he's going to talk about identifying people's priorities, if the very next sentence is about either taxes or regulations, you will know that Josh Oman is not a serious candidate for governor.
Because people's priorities, you ask any of them, they're not going to tell you regulations the first time.
The things that protect them as consumers or protect them as workers.
And they're not talking about whether the next marginal tax rate should be 3.6% or whatever.
They want good schools.
They want the roads being fixed.
They want broadband expanded so they've got high speed internet access everywhere.
They want affordable health care.
If you're talking taxes or regulations when you say I'm identifying people's priorities, you're not serious.
And then finally he talked about how much he supports Donald Trump's plan on tariffs and says he's resetting the table on putting America first.
Now what that says to me is somebody who obviously is trying to get the Donald Trump endorsement, curry favor, that's one way of putting it.
The way that I put it is more that he's gullible.
that there's a lot of folks out there, especially in Congress right now, who will just go along with whatever they're hearing from Donald Trump and pretending like these tariffs and this trade war is gonna work.
It's not working.
and it will not work.
And again, the sooner we get more Republicans willing to speak independently about this, the sooner we can fix the damage Trump is already doing to the economy.
We'll have more live from Chippewa Falls after the Midwest Farm Report here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I'm Pac Wright Long.
635 now.
On this Monday morning, Dr. Kristen Lierly joins us as well as she does most Mondays at this time, but you can also hear over the weekend on the new Dr. Kristen Lierly show across the Civic Media Radio Network on the app or locally on stations in Green Bay and Oshkosh.
Dr. Lierly, how was the show this weekend and how are you?
Wait five minutes.
The other seasons never last long, but I, I brought up the, uh, the hammock photo because I was trying to sneak a nap in wherever I could yesterday after.
feeling that sleep study, which apparently certain people are going to badger me until
Well, I'm actually kind of surprised we kept ours because we were coming up in a week or two here on the 30th anniversary that we bought this house.
So 30 years ago, we got this house on a lake.
I can't wait to put up my very first ever hammock.
or hammock, if you will.
And we put that thing up and it's glorious.
And then like a month later, the kids are, you know, screwing around one of the neighbor kids and my girls and they're rocking it too much.
And before I can say anything, it has flipped and Samantha has fallen off and it's clear to see that her arm is broken.
And yeah, you'd think at that point I'd go, maybe a hammock's not going to work out.
But that so far, thankfully, has still been the only significant injury.
There has been a time or two where I thought I had it tied to the trees more securely and did not.
And my tailbone, you know, got a little surprise when the rope didn't hold.
But
All right.
Good for you.
We've got a few different things in the news.
We talked about Josh Schoeman, of course, his comments, and Alicia had a reaction to that saying, well, how's he going to address the deficits in Manitowoc County, a rural, less affluent county?
And the point that we were making, Kristen, is that he's talking about Washington County and how great things are there.
Well, yeah, that's different than...
Shawnaw County or plenty of other counties where there are challenges that are exacerbated by a legislature that has very little interest in taking care of local units of government.
You know, the people that used to tell you we're the party of local control are now giving local mandates and local restrictions on revenue.
And I don't know that Washington County is really the example you want to use for what we need.
incredibly important to hear all of those individual voices.
But when you're the governor, you're the governor for the whole state.
And most of the state geographically is rural.
And you know, the big red flag for me from that interview was how supportive he was of President Trump and his tariffs, even at this stage in the game.
I haven't talked to a single person who has said 100% full speed ahead.
These tariffs are a great thing.
The more
the longer that they're on and the more conversations that I have with people, the more people are starting to understand what this means, not just for the now, but they're starting to see, you know, the comments that Trump made about Christmas and the dolls, how instead of maybe 30 dolls,
We're even starting to see that messaging trickle out from the White House that we didn't see before.
So these are, you know, at first there were no short-term impacts on us.
Now we're starting to see some of these short-term impacts, but really
the impacts are going to be long and they're going to be far reaching.
Not one of his best weeks out there from from saying I don't really know if there should be due process to again the 30 dolls comment like well maybe instead of 30 dolls they should have two which raises two questions either one is that what your family is like that that you know kids get 30 toys to open up at Christmas time or the other point is
you know, given that he does have grandchildren, like he's the first grandfather in history that wishes for your grandkids to have fewer toys at Christmas than what they had.
And then, on top of all that, he's, again, he loves the diversions.
I get that it's a sideshow, but there are a lot of Catholics out there.
Not real happy with him putting up the AI generated photo of himself as the Pope having just come back from the Pope's funeral.
Yes, and that was his site He put that on the official POTUS site and the official White House site a northeast, Wisconsin We've got a lot of Catholics.
We're one of the most Catholic regions in the entire country I posted a picture of that on my Facebook page yesterday and the comments were so telling and it's not just Catholics people who are atheists and non
Catholics were commenting about how insulting it is.
There was not a single person who thought that was a good idea.
Well, again, the tax breaks that he's willing to support are the tax breaks that benefit him or something about him or his family, his cryptocurrency, whatever the case may be.
And he'll, again, make these threats thinking that somehow it's going to bring movie production out of Canada or out of other places.
And
if just one movie, and no one takes one, if just one producer says, you know, instead of shooting in Vancouver, we're gonna shoot back in Hollywood.
He, of course, is gonna claim victory and, you know, that he saved the economy, much like his, was it his...
press person or one of his officials talked about, um, the president has already saved the lives of over 200 million Americans
And it is.
But we then, if we're talking about the Pope picture or anything, again, we're getting away from the fact that he said he would fix all these things on day one.
And yet told Kristen Walker of NBC News on Meet the Press that he was okay with a recession.
He'd be okay if things slowed down for a while.
just far enough away from South Padre Island that it's not actually a part of South Padre, but the little complex which was in pretty much Swampland before.
The people who lived there, and it's not many, but they have voted to form their own city so that they can kind of have their own local control.
But again, the folks in the Rio Grande Valley there who watched rockets explode.
Multiple times are a little concerned about the governance that the Elon Musk can play by whatever rules you want.
And if a rocket happens to fall on your house, well,
Keep it as a souvenir.
That's right, those pesky pesky regulations.
Selena Heller will be joining us and we have so much more congressional candidate Laura Benjamin is on the way, Nick Ramos from Wisconsin Democracy Campaign.
We'll talk to a guest from the Sierra Club as well.
And Jane Matinair.
Today's history lesson is next as we always do mornings up north and live here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I'm Pat Crete Long.
Adele is 37 years old today.
Michael Palin from Monty Python, 82.
Brian Williams is 66, which seems young, but for a guy that had dinner with Winston Churchill.
or whatever story Brian Williams will tell you.
On this day in 1973, Secretariat won the Kentucky Derby in a still track record at Churchill Downs 159 and two-fifths.
You'd go on to win that triple crown.
And again, that Belmont Stakes race is still one for the history books.
Over the weekend, Christopher Cross had a birthday.
One of the staples of Yacht Rock turned 64.
Oh, now I'm feeling more cheerful.
Yeah, let's see.
Uh-huh.
See how Yacht Rock does that?
Yeah.
Pete Seeger was born this day in 1919.
Happy birthday to Frankie Valley.
Still with us, he turns 91 years old today.
Oh, I love the four seasons.
Yep.
Country singer Eric Church is 48 years old today.
That voice was good for a short time and then we never heard from him again.
He's around.
Well, he's around, but I mean, in terms of
Big hit, Mike here.
Also over the weekend, we celebrated the birth of the late great James Brown born this weekend in 1933.
Hey,
As soon as you put her with George Michael and some other songs like Who's Zoom and Who, it's like, it works.
You've got talent that translates in there.
Let's see, on this day in 1886, in Milwaukee, workers marching for the right to have an eight hour work day.
were shot at by National Guardsmen in what became known as the Bayview Massacre.
On this day in 1904, Cy Young of the Boston Americans threw the first perfect game in the modern era of baseball.
Avril Lavigne had her only number one hit this week in 2007.
This was her only number one hit.
Yeah, well again, you know the charts are fickle On this day in 1862 Mexico triumphed over French troops at the Battle of Puebla and now celebrate Cinco de Mayo
which at this point is way more popular in America than it is in Mexico.
It is often confused with Mexican Independence Day, but that is actually on September 16th.
So happy Cinco de Mayo for whatever significance it might be to you.
This is National Tourism Week.
We're going to be talking about Ag Tourism tomorrow with Sheila Everhart from the Wisconsin Agricultural Tourism Association and Hans Breitenmoser.
It is Teacher Appreciation Week this week.
And today is National Meeting Planners Appreciation Day.
Hey, Meeting Planners, happy day to you if you really want to make this day happy.
Next time, plan an email instead of a meeting.
because
You didn't listen.
You don't know.
It was good advice.
I'm trying to think.
Was it good advice?
He was talking about just getting out of a relationship and whether or not it was a good idea to start dating.
And I said, were you the dumper or was your friend the dump or or the dump?
And if you're the dumpy, it's good to wait a little bit and heal and relax and find what you need to find.
And don't just jump back in.