Just Another Panic Monday (Hour 1)

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Just Another Panic Monday (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Mon Apr 7, 2025

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Host

I'm hearing the board fine through the stream here, although I think there's some delay.

And so this is my chance to say, hey, there Wisconsin, good morning, and welcome to a new show.

On a Monday morning, 6.06, thanks for coming here from the Boston Civic Media radio network.

Right now we're trying to reestablish our connection here between where I am and where Greg Bach is back at radio at the radio ranch.

And maybe Greg wants to pop me up through the telephone.

And we can talk that way at least.

Okay, I just want you to say on Facebook is a touch of an echo.

And that could be because I've also got the phone line open just increase Greg wants to talk on the phone here.

So

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Talk.

Host

our second hour about the Chippewa Valley Healthcare Cooperative.

This is a group that is, oh, wait a minute.

Trying to figure out where my echo is coming from here.

Oh, it's coming from the phone.

I'm gonna hang up the phone there.

Great.

You're gonna have to let me know if I need to pop back up on the phone or not.

And there you are.

Okay.

All right.

Chippewa Valley Healthcare Cooperative is what I was saying here.

We've got two guests from there.

You'll recall that a year ago.

The Chippewa Valley lost not one, but two hospitals after an out of state company.

Just abruptly closed down Sacred Heart in Eau Claire in St.

Joe's in Chippewa Falls.

And ever since that time, the Chippewa Valley has, I mean, there are other hospitals there, but it disrupted a whole lot of patients.

It left a whole lot of people without work.

And it taught us something about the

you know, the volatility of America's healthcare system.

And so is there a room again in this world of corporate medicine for independent nonprofit community hospitals?

You know, the way they started back in the day.

We'll talk to our guests about that, about a hospital that they're hoping to construct in Lake Halley, which is between Eau Claire and Chippewa Falls.

And in the meantime, they may be using St.

Joseph's Hospital, which had been abandoned again a year ago, as temporary quarters.

The interesting thing is there's a lesson we can glean from this.

And that is not everything is supposed to be run

like a business, like a for-profit business.

Certainly we've learned that about health care now.

It's profit-driven health care at the corporate level that has decimated the availability of care and certainly the quality of care in certain areas.

So it goes for business and government.

So many times we hear government should be run like a business.

No, it shouldn't.

And that that really is today's civics lesson that we're going to get into in just a moment as we watch the markets crater yet again this morning and talk about, you know, the difference between running government and running business.

I would be remiss if I didn't start by talking about the demonstrations that were held over the weekend.

on saturday uh i was traveling uh out of state for the weekend as you can tell by our little technical snafus here but the the photos the posts the videos um i mean just thousands and then millions of people when you when you add it all up and people say well what does it mean what what what did it actually accomplish

The same thing that the Cory Booker speech did in the Senate, you know, days earlier, where again, people want to be dismissive of it and shouldn't be because just turning over, you know, just sitting down, just, you know, rolling over and saying, well, you know, what can you do is exactly what people want when they just want to roll over and do whatever they want to a minority.

a minority of any kind.

And it's when that minority of people says, no, no, no, this isn't typical.

This will not stand.

We will oppose this is at least the first sign of restoring some order to the world.

And that's what people did over the weekend.

They said, we need order restored.

We don't need a lack of due process.

We don't need interference in our elections.

And we don't need our 401ks to be tanking unnecessarily.

Let's say it again for everybody in the back.

we have had in this country the greatest recovery of any developed nation after the pandemic had ended.

And now it's been ruined.

It's been ruined by somebody who wanted to run government like a business.

I'll get to that part in a moment, but I just before I leave the demonstrations, just again, want to talk about how positive it was.

You know, if necessity is the mother of invention, then perhaps it's

Political opposition is the mother of creativity at least in sign making and there were so many I didn't even try to compile a list I'm sure many of you have seen many of the signs out there So I would just say if you haven't go on to social media or new sites and just look at how people are look They're rightly upset about what's happening But it didn't get in the way of their creativity to express themselves and so God bless them for for doing that

Before I go any further, because we got started on a bit of a rough note, let me take care of some of the other housekeeping matters here.

Of course, you can get our Up North News Daily newsletter, head over to our website, upnorthnewswi.com and sign up for it.

Today is National Beer Day.

Yes, there's a National Beer Day, and it is meant to commemorate what happened 92 years ago today, and that was the end of prohibition.

And now Wisconsin, of course, has always been

big on beer.

There are more than 200 breweries, many of them renowned around the country and some around the world.

And some of them have been awarded quite handsomely over the years for their brews and Christina Laurie put together stories, including a link in our newsletter to learn about which Wisconsin breweries have been among the most rewarded or the most awarded, I guess I should say.

Also,

I am not a viewer of the White Lotus, but I understand the season finale was last night, if I'm reading correctly.

And in the newsletter, we talk about Carrie Coon.

She is the actress who played Laurie on the show, one of the leading characters, and she is a University of Wisconsin graduate and had a long accomplished resume before coming to the White Lotus series.

And so again, you can read more about her over at our newsletter up North News W I dot com.

We also had our weekend newsletter where again I had to do a little bit scrambling at the last minute to add some photos that Selena Heller took from around the Eau Claire area where there were at least 1500 people there and let me see I believe Alicia talked about 2500 people in Appleton is what she's saying and it's it's not even that it's I mean 2500 in Appleton is cool

couple thousand in Milwaukee, a few thousand in Madison, but it was all the other little, you know, little places by comparison that still got healthy crowds, including Chippewa Falls and Mineral Point, and they lined the streets up in Rice Lake and, you know,

Wherever you looked in pretty much every county it seemed, there were people that had formed some kind of a protest and wanted to speak out about it.

So again, thanks for the comment on that.

We did mention it in our weekend newsletter.

And we also have our question of the week.

The question of the week deals with tax relief.

And we said, okay, again, back to that $4 billion state surplus that we haven't talked about much because of, you know, other matters at the national level, but there's still a state budget to be written.

And if you're going to include tax relief in it, what should that tax relief look like?

And I mean, there's so many ways to do it.

So we listed just a few specific options like, do you gear it toward income tax cuts at the higher income brackets?

Because as the saying goes, the higher incomes pay higher taxes.

Other people look at the percentage of their income that goes in taxes and say, they would choose the option of cut taxes at the middle income tax brackets.

there's an option in there as well for, actually put it toward the sales tax, either reduce the sales tax or exempt more items from it.

And what was the other option that we gave?

Oh, more targeted tax breaks.

So along with your overall tax rate, you would stop taxing certain forms of income or the first so many dollars of income before taxes kick in.

Now, we have already received a fair share of answers that said, none of the above, if we've got a surplus, let's reinvest it in key services.

That point is very well taken.

However, of the options that are listed there, what is it that you would want us to do if we were all the imaginary legislature here?

So again, that's another weekend newsletter that you can get by heading over to UpNorthNewsWI.com.

and clicking subscribe up in the top banner.

All right, let's take a look at the sports real quick.

And then we're going to get back into the news and the markets plunging and everything else.

But it was a busy weekend in sports.

Jackson Churio homered twice and matched a career high with five RBIs as the Milwaukee Brewers beat the Cincinnati Red Sunday eight to two.

That wraps up a four game series with Cincinnati and a seven game homestand.

So today is their first day off in nine days.

They're heading west for another nine game stretch, three in Colorado, three games in Arizona before coming home next week.

But we've got to start somewhere.

So let's start with that series in Colorado that will

get set tomorrow, 7 40 in Colorado.

So the broadcast will begin at 705 tomorrow evening on civic media stations in Richland Center, Oshkosh, Racine, Mark Falls and Hayward.

The Milwaukee Bucks are on a four game winning streak here after beating the New Orleans Pelicans 111 to 107 last night.

This is the last week of the regular season in the NBA.

Next Sunday is the final day of the regular season.

The Bucks are already assured of a playoff spot, so we won't have to deal with any of that nonsense about play in games.

We'll tell you more about that next week.

The Bucks are home tomorrow versus the Timberwolves.

They're home Thursday against New Orleans.

They're at Detroit on Friday, and then they ramp up the regular season next Sunday at home against Detroit.

And in hockey news, Alex Ovechkin played the role of Henry Aaron, breaking a record that nobody thought was going to be broken.

That would be Wayne Gretzky playing the role of Babe Ruth.

In this case, it was Gretzky's 894 goals.

Alex Ovechkin got goal number 895.

And he did it in basically the same number of games.

as Gretzky.

Now Gretzky is still far and away the better overall player, number of assists and other things that he did, but don't take anything away from the great eight, Alex Ovechkin, for what he was able to accomplish.

All right, we'll get to some of the day's news after this, wherever you're listening across Wisconsin or out of state, when you're here, you're up north, we'll be right back.

Pat (host)

Yes, the title of this hour is Panic Monday, and I was not the one to coin it, but it's it's gonna work because it's looking like a bit of a Panic Monday out there on Wall Street.

First, now that we've got all the little technical glitches out, let's give a formal welcome to Greg Bach out there in Radio Park.

Mr. Bach, good morning.

How are you?

Greg Bach (contributor)

Much better.

Pat (host)

Yes, yes.

Here's the thing.

I can now back up a step and tell folks now I'm not at our Lake Wasota studio as they like to say.

And there was this pesky election back on April 1.

But for one of my daughters and their kids, their spring break was last month.

And I couldn't go.

I couldn't go see the grandkids because you don't want to be out of state with an election pending.

And you know, what if there's breaking news and everything?

And so we set up a visit for after the election.

And things were going to go really smoothly because I've broadcast from both daughters, respective cities in the past.

I set up everything here and I hit the right buttons and it comes out over there.

And if I said nothing, nobody would be any of the wiser.

Unless we get a glitch here and there.

these things happen.

So here, that's where, so that's why you see, if you're watching on Facebook or YouTube, you see different circumstances from this lovely VRBO, where I'm going to be for this week.

And again, great to see the grandsons, but it's great.

First thing Monday to see Greg Bach.

How we doing?

Greg Bach (contributor)

I am doing great.

It's great to see your face, my friend.

Big shout out to, I know, I know we shouldn't be like talking about how the sausage just made and everything.

Pat (host)

Oh, no, no, no.

I'm, I'm all about that.

Shout out

Greg Bach (contributor)

to Luke Mathers as always.

Whenever there's a glitch or something, he's always there and be like, all right.

I always hear him on the speaker and he's like so calm.

Pat (host)

And there's like, okay.

Cause he

Greg Bach (contributor)

knows, cause he knows the fixes while like Greg here is like trying to set his hair on fire, being like, why can't we get anything to work?

So big shout out to the very handsome, very capable Luke Mathers for that.

Pat (host)

Very capable.

Greg Bach (contributor)

Um, so you're okay.

So I was going to say like the, the, the, if you please watch the live stream where Pat is, is lovely.

It

Pat (host)

is lovely.

Here's the thing.

It didn't look lovely when I, when I pulled up to this VRBO, it's in a part of a city out here in the mountain west that clearly was.

was a was a was a city, a small city back in the day.

It's along a rail line, a rail line that isn't used much anymore.

And you come up, you come upon this old building that was probably part of like a you know, quote unquote, downtown at one

Greg Bach (contributor)

point.

Yeah.

Pat (host)

And it's got the the year that it was built, which is over 100 years ago, on top of the building.

And from the outside, you're like, Oh, no.

Oh, what have I done?

What have I done?

And I don't know what this was, if it was a granary, or a warehouse, or what?

But they gutted the inside.

And if you've been to any warehouse district, you know, in Milwaukee, like Walker's Point or Minneapolis, you know that some of these places, when they really put themselves into it, they exposed the original brick facade.

But then they put in some more modern touches and turned them into units.

I mean, this is gorgeous here.

Greg Bach (contributor)

It looks beautiful.

And I'm very curious.

I'm very curious about your experience with I call it verbal.

I don't know if it's VRBO, but

Pat (host)

either.

Yeah.

Greg Bach (contributor)

But yeah, I mean, it looks beautiful.

And we, yeah, in Milwaukee, there are a ton of those places where you're like, Oh, this is a building where I will be murdered.

And then you walk in, you're like, Oh, this is a place where I can buy essential oils.

Pat (host)

Yes, that's exactly.

And be murdered.

You never

Greg Bach (contributor)

know.

Pat (host)

You never

Greg Bach (contributor)

know.

But yeah, I mean, it looks, it looks, it looks gorgeous.

And, and I, and I ask because

You know, it's, it's still about two and a half years away, but Bridget has been asking me a lot about what do I want to do for my 50th birthday?

And I really would love to go to the mountains.

I'd like to get away and I want to

Pat (host)

like get a

Greg Bach (contributor)

really nice place for a weekend and just relax.

And I see that and I was like, God, okay.

Pat (host)

Well, and one of the reasons you see this growth even out, out here is, I mean, we're, we're

about 100 miles away from West Yellowstone.

Okay.

And yet the demand has always been such for places to stay by people who come to Yellowstone that they'll get a VRBO 100 miles away.

And then they'll drive in and they'll go all around the park and everything.

And they'll do that for a couple days or a week or whatever.

So yeah, there's still a very brisk market shall we say.

She has no beautiful bookshelves in the back though.

True.

But it like I said, we'll

We'll take the rest there.

Tony agrees that we're going to need a tour.

We're going to need a tour TikTok.

Oh, yeah.

Put up photos of the inside and the outside because yes, when you see the outside at first, that's exactly what you think.

This is where I'm murdered.

It turns out it's actually quite, quite lovely.

Let's see.

It's Monday.

So I think we'll be seeing Dr. Kristen Lyrely in just a sec.

And here's the thing.

I was getting all set to talk about Bob Dylan doing a concert in Eau Claire.

was it Thursday or Friday or Saturday?

I don't know.

I haven't seen posts that he he helped break in the new son of tag center in Eau Claire with a concert.

We'll need to see Dr. Lirely with a post that she'd seen Bob Dylan in concert over the weekend as well.

But I'm not sure where if if it was Green Bay or where it was, we're gonna ask her

Greg Bach (contributor)

whatever

Pat (host)

it was.

I'm sure

Greg Bach (contributor)

she stood on stage and sang a song with him and

Pat (host)

said,

Greg Bach (contributor)

Hey, Bob Dylan, I wrote this in 1974.

I hope you like it.

Like, every time Dr. And I you know how I like

I bow at Dr. Lyle for everything, but it's always, every time we talk about her, she's like, oh, I invented the spokes that go on bicycle.

We're like, of course you have.

I

Pat (host)

know.

Well, and of course they couldn't, they did not allow cameras and phones to be taken into the concert venues.

And so instead of a photo of Bob Dylan, it's her sitting at Bob Dylan's piano at his home up in Hibbing.

where she works from time to time.

Because of course she did.

Of course she played Bob Dylan's childhood piano.

It's just so good.

Let me grab a minute here just to talk a bit about news and we'll do more of it with Dr. Lierley as well.

But here's the thing.

Overnight futures trading and now trading in Asia and then Europe show that Wall Street is poised to fall another 5% right out of the gates this morning when markets opened in about two hours.

See, Donald Trump has this fantasy that every nation on earth, friend or foe, is going to rush to make individual deals with him to save their country's export markets.

That was never going to happen in such a short time frame when you say, nope, we're going to do this with everybody rather than one deal at a time.

He could have picked some low hanging fruit, maybe a new trade deal with Vietnam or the Philippines.

No, because he believes that government is such that you have to run it like a business.

And sometimes you have to break things in order to fix them.

Not only is government not intended to run that way, business isn't intended to run that way, or you break things down entirely.

That's not running the business.

That's being a vulture so that you can break apart something and squeeze more money out of it.

Government was never designed to be operated like a business, period.

End of sentence.

There are two distinctly different things in this we're going to talk about in an hour.

Healthcare was never meant to be run like a for-profit corporate business.

Everybody needs to do a better job of staying in their lane.

But by Donald Trump weaving in and out of lanes, it's causing crashes and calamity all over the place.

That's the title of this hour show, Panic Monday.

Back with more right after this.

We're up north.

You know the words

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said and ape said This would be mr. Zimmerman talking about growing up not far from this particular road here

Did Bob Dylan happen to play that last night in Green Bay, Dr. Kristen Leighly?

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

He did not.

Pat (host)

I didn't think so.

I heard from the Saturday review in Eau Claire that there were very few classics played.

It was more often new album stuff, but I knew he was coming to Eau Claire for the new Sonnetag Center.

I see now that he was in Mankato Friday and then Green Bay last night, but didn't know that till I saw a post of you that you had gone to see him.

How was it?

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

It was

Fantastic.

It was quiet, very pared down, very bluesy.

Yes.

And the set was like a curtain and then a couple of those old fashioned studio lights and everybody was dressed kind of like the Beatles.

Nice.

So like the whole vibe was just very chill.

Unknown commentator

How big was this band?

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

Ah, two guitarists, a bass player, stand up bass player, drummer.

And then he was on piano the whole time.

Unknown commentator

Whoa.

Nice.

He didn't even

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

grab a guitar.

little bit of harmonica but mostly piano and even when he sang songs that you know like it ain't me babe it was it took a few bars to get into it before you realized that that was what it was because the arrangement was so different.

Pat (host)

Yes.

Yeah which you know again you gotta hand it to to singers and bands uh you know they they they've played these things

thousands of times.

You know, I and I've said before that, you know, a painter, when they go someplace doesn't have to repaint the same painting.

And author doesn't sit down and write the same book.

But a singer in a band that do the same thing over and over again.

And so you're sometimes going to hear that that different arrangement.

But still, everybody's not everybody I did I took

I took a screenshot from the Eau Claire performance, some Facebook comments, and it was just perfect to capture a screenshot of one comment going, Yeah, it really wasn't a big, you know, big thing.

I wouldn't have gone again.

He kind of mumbled through the whole thing.

I didn't really understand.

And there were no classics.

And then the very next comment, it was the greatest show I have ever been to.

And on and on it goes, I'm

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

like,

Pat (host)

What?

Bob

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

Dylan mumbled?

Pat (host)

What?

Yeah, right.

The the

I love the first verse there of Highway 61 Revisited.

But as I was playing it this morning, I realized it was the last verse that really fits into a transition into the news here.

And it goes like this.

Now the Rovan Gambler, that might be Donald Trump here, now the Rovan Gambler was easily bored.

He was trying to create the next World War.

He found a promoter.

Musk who nearly fell off the floor.

He said, I never engaged in this kind of thing before.

But yes, I think it can be very easily done.

We'll just put some bleachers out in the sun and have it on Highway 61.

And that's what we've got as a promoter who loves putting up the bleachers, loves having the rallies, loves talking big.

But all the all this gambler, this businessman gambler is doing is, you know, currently triggering the next World Trade War.

Thankfully,

Dr. Lirely and a few million close personal friends were busy on Saturday making sure that people knew we're watching and that this is this is not really the direction we think we should be going in.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

Well, was it Shakespeare who said there's nothing new under the Sun?

I mean, that's all Bob Dylan's lyrics.

He's a Nobel Prize winning artist for literature because of what he said and a lot of it is just dragging it up from the Romans and stories that we've heard in the past history constantly repeats itself and that's exactly what we're seeing with Donald Trump and the stock market He projected this we knew he was serious about these tariffs.

He's been serious about tariffs since the 80s.

He's on record

on numerous occasions talking about exactly what he's doing right now.

And we know, anybody who's watched Ferris Bueller's Day Off knows that tariffs don't work.

So none of this is a surprise, right?

Pat (host)

It's true.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

It's

Pat (host)

what the teacher was lecturing about was the tariffs.

Anyone?

Anyone?

There's been all these other instances in pop culture where they use the smooth, holly tariff act to show that they don't work.

They don't work.

Yeah.

But getting back to the demonstrations, you know, again, yeah, of course, you're gonna see thousands and thousands of people in Madison and Milwaukee, but it was all the other places around the state where I'm looking at Facebook posts from all over and

so encouraged that people didn't say, eh, I'm just going to stay home.

What are you going to do?

People wanted to show strength in numbers.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

They did.

And what we hear from the mega folks is that these were just paid protesters, George Soros, all of the buzzwords.

But I can tell you, we had almost 2,000 people in Green Bay, and they were my friends and neighbors.

They were people

Pat (host)

I killed in the community.

Everybody's paid.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

Everybody's uncomfortable.

And people were standing on one of the bridges in Green Bay, and as cars were going by, it was this constant, beautiful, melodic,

Because people just wanted to be part of it in whatever way they could be.

So people are engaged.

They're standing up.

They're using their voices.

They're being peaceful.

And I really appreciate that.

And we're hearing it from so many unlikely places, like Ben Shapiro making a video talking

Unknown commentator

about

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

how he doesn't support this.

Wow.

Pat (host)

Yeah.

I

Unknown commentator

saw a tweet that said, old George Soros must be broke after paying out all those checks for the protesters.

Pat (host)

That would do it.

That would do it.

It was, it was, you want to wave high really quick?

Uh, the 11 year old is away.

He said, he said he was just going to float in and out of the picture.

And that's exactly what he

Unknown commentator

did.

And it's, wait, wait, you're, so it's almost not even six o'clock and he's just like, Hey, what's up?

I'm like too much energy, kid.

Pat (host)

Lots of energy.

Yeah.

I

Unknown commentator

mean, that was, that was the thing too, is like, is, is really starting to see little bits of the cracks form.

on this whole thing and people trying really hard still to defend Trump and these moves like you guys don't understand.

He's playing 4D chess.

I'm like, I don't think he's

Pat (host)

he's not that's the whole point is that there isn't a plan much like repeal and replace.

There isn't a replacement.

It was simply break things.

Remember, the guy has talked about that he wants to go back to the tariffs that William McKinley tried that Herbert Hoover tried and in both cases.

It led to recession, depression, Republicans losing tons of seats.

You know, your Congressman out there, Tony Weed, I would think maybe this might be the time to show a little daylight and show up at any of these sessions.

I do recall seeing some video of you with an empty chair there the other

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

day.

Well, first of all, might I mention that Thursday night after the first terrible day on the stock market, Tony Weeds on national ABC TV talking about how these are great and there will be short-term pain, but long-term gain.

And we just need to support President Trump, which is his trope.

That's really all he says.

Yeah, we've got an empty chair.

Well, hopefully he'll show up.

I mean, there's been an invitation issued, so we'll see.

But Friday night, we have invited Representative Weed to come to Depears Community Center at 6 p.m.

It's right down the road from his house.

We know he's home because they're not working.

So we would love to have Congressman Weed there so that the people can let him know what's going on in their lives and what they're concerned about.

Pat (host)

The funny thing is that the closest that we've seen to any separation from Trump, it didn't really count even.

It was Ron Johnson saying, oh, I'm concerned about these tariffs.

I'm concerned, which is, of course, these are empty words.

And but even those, you know,

Unknown commentator

that whole interview though, if you listen to that whole interview on on PBS, it's, there are moments you're like, I don't understand what he's talking about.

Like he's

Pat (host)

not,

Unknown commentator

he's not not answering the question.

He's doing something else.

And it's very unnerving to listen to him speak to a PBS reporter who are some of the most thorough because they're like, I don't care what side you're on, I need answers right now.

Pat (host)

Yeah,

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

space betrayed him.

You could see it in his

Pat (host)

eyes.

Oh, yeah.

Cassandra on YouTube.

Where is my check?

She says about the paid protesters.

The energy in Appleton was incredible.

A couple of Trumpers drove past saw a few middle fingers, but overall it was tons of honking and incredible vibes.

Alicia puts in Cassandra.

It was awesome.

The energy was electric and Cassandra responds with Tony put out his weed wire email, and it was gross how much he was groveling.

Unknown commentator

I hate

that work.

Pat (host)

I think get that we have to have a let's have an interpretive reading of that on air.

Do you think you can get that first, Kristen?

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

I've got it.

Pat (host)

I'll forward me a copy.

Maybe tomorrow I'll do an interpretive reading of the whole thing.

Welcome to the weed wire.

There there were there's a couple of other things I did want to get to with you, not just the the demonstrations.

I don't have time for it right now, and I might not do it till tomorrow, but there's did you hear the the did you hear President Obama talking about if I had done even one of these things?

You know what what people would be like

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

when he started out with that and

Pat (host)

the

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

crowd laughed and they were like, you know, this is funny And he was like, no, I'm serious.

Pat (host)

Yeah,

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

you could have heard a pin drop

Pat (host)

Yeah.

And the only reason I'm not playing it now and getting it is I do want to get to one other thing that is for a doctor to talk about.

And it's serious and it's sad.

But you're the best person I can think of to talk about the fact that in Texas, a second child now has died of measles, has died of measles.

And

Again, the people that want to play politics, this isn't something that's driven by, you know, you know, something faith-based or something like that.

These are the people are hearing contemporary messages, meaning COVID onward from usually somebody who is, I would add, not a scientist, not a doctor, they're acting on it.

And people are getting hurt, Kristen, and this absolutely breaks my heart because

I know, I mean, I don't know, no, but I know there's going to be a third child going through this.

And I just, I have to turn to a doctor to say, what can we possibly say to parents like that to say, trust the vaccinations or this could be what happens next.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

Please get your children vaccinated now.

Wisconsin is the second least vaccinated state when it comes to measles.

We are

in danger here in Wisconsin.

And this is just a clarion call from Texas, like take care of yourself.

So if you are not vaccinated, if you're not fully vaccinated and you can check your vaccination status by going to the Wisconsin Immunization Registry, just Google it.

You have to put in a little information, but it'll all be there for you.

Check your vaccination status.

If you are not fully vaccinated, please do get vaccinated.

Measles is incredibly contagious.

It is not isolated to Texas.

We know that there are cases in Minnesota and I believe in Illinois as well as at least 10 other states.

Measles is coming and we'll get sick.

Adults will get sick, but children will die.

Pat (host)

And that's the thing is that, again, the perspective of saying, well, if the adults get sick, they must not work.

And, you know, people still got COVID.

You're not listening.

You're not listening to the full extent of things, which takes me to some of the trolls, which I'm not going to name, but I'm going to mention a couple so that we can, again, knock down some of these points.

So one person said, the demonstrators, they were lunatics.

Normal people don't do this on a Saturday, to which your second half is correct.

Normal people don't do this on a Saturday because normal people don't normally feel the need to do it.

The fact that so many normal people were out there should tell you something.

From another one, remember when your leader, the almighty Joseph Biden, claimed that inflation was transitory?

Four years isn't transitory.

Again, you're not right.

The inflation was transitory.

It was coming down.

We were actually about to achieve the soft landing.

you know, the perfect 10 for coming out of a recession.

And, you know, now, now it's broke.

But that leads us to one final comment saying, I will enjoy watching these folks when the tariffs work.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

Me too.

Pat (host)

Yeah, me too.

To what extent?

Are you planning on them working?

And here's the thing, again, on the campaign trail,

None of this was mentioned.

I always talk about this with Scott Walker in Act 10.

He never said during his campaign he was going to do what he did.

Same thing here.

If you go back, look at the tape.

Look at the tape.

Look at the tape.

As Donald Trump's saying, prices are going to come down on day one.

Everything's going to be fixed on day one.

He did say we were treated unfairly.

He did not say that we were going to see the stock market sink to levels that are about to head into bear market territory.

That's officially breaking the market.

Heck of a job there, Brownie.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly (guest)

You know, listening to these comments though just makes me feel like, okay, friends, I get it.

You're on that side and other people are on the other side, but this isn't a Packers Bears game.

This is hurting every single one of us and it's going to hurt you too if it hasn't already.

So stop with the Biden did this and the finger pointing and the haha you lost.

It's not that it's.

We've got to do better for all of us and for each other.

We're all on the same team here.

Unknown commentator

But they honestly, I honestly just feel like they don't care.

They, the being right and forgive the, forgive the word, being right trumps us as a country succeeding.

Pat (host)

Yes.

And for folks that are like, well, I'm not feeling anything yet.

You will.

Yeah, you will or you're or you're in denial about the prices that you're seeing and you're about to be about the things that are and are not available.

And, you know, again, you can make the arguments all day long, but the numbers don't lie that whether it's the price tags, the market numbers, or the number of people in the streets, today's history lesson is next, you're up north.

Oh, Pat, is this where you again say Bonnie Raitt's Nick of Time was one of the best albums and everybody should just listen to it front to back?

Yes.

Yes, I am.

So Bonnie Raitt went to number one on the album charts this day in 1990.

I

Kristen

do nothing to disparage this album, Miss Raitt.

But every time this song starts, I'm like, is Doogie Howser on?

Because this sounds like the theme song to Doogie Howser.

Did that connect those dots?

It's the same keyboard sound.

Pat (host)

Really?

Yes.

Okay.

Now I gotta go look that

Kristen

up.

Yeah, now we're going to.

You're welcome.

You're welcome, everyone.

Greg

You

Kristen

are kind of

Greg

the doogie-houser of radio.

Kristen

I'm 47, I peaked a long time ago.

Greg

Not you, Pat.

Oh, got you.

SPEAKER_??

Right.

Pat (host)

Okay.

No, no, no.

If, uh, no, if anybody's in the eternal youth window, it would be, uh, it's Lena Heller who joins us.

Still

Lena Heller

still has

Pat (host)

that youthful look when she first showed up at our newsroom at Channel 13, uh, and was.

you know, throwing things around going to what I don't where am I going?

What am I doing?

What?

And she did the same thing on Friday about stories.

Love that about her.

Lena Heller

It's still the same.

It's still the same.

Pat (host)

Like, wait, wait, wait, I've got questions.

I've got questions.

Lena Heller

And here

Pat (host)

she is.

But

Lena Heller

she still asked

Pat (host)

the questions, still tells the stories and has some stories for us coming up a little bit later on, including going to the the big demonstration in Eau Claire over the weekend.

So we'll talk about to Selena about that in a minute.

First off, on this day in 1999, Shania Twain's third album,

on over was, uh, it got a special certification because it had so many singles.

Oh, like this one for the ladies here.

Lena Heller

Let's go.

Kristen

Let's go girls.

Pat (host)

Uh, it was certified diamond on this day in 1999, making her the first female artist to have two diamond albums in a row.

What's a diamond album?

10 million albums sold.

That's not, that's not bad.

Wow.

Let's see.

We've got Billy Holiday, the famous jazz singer born this day in 1950.

1915, I'm sorry.

Francis Ford Coppola was born 86 years ago today.

Yeah.

Wow.

Kristen

Should you do the math is awesome.

Pat (host)

I know.

It's funny when I see it.

I go, wait, I did I did the math on all of them except this one.

I miss this one.

Acclaimed singer-songwriter John Prine died this day in 2020 at the age of 73 after contracting COVID.

More birthdays include John Oates.

Who?

John Oates, you know?

Oh, cat.

Balloon Oates.

I

Kristen

wish they weren't fighting.

That's a deep cut.

Pat (host)

Yes, it is.

Well, when you look up, you know, which songs did Oates sing lead on?

It's a very short list.

It's this one and one we're going to play in the next hour when they did the remake of the Righteous Brothers.

Lena Heller

That was

Pat (host)

it.

Jackie Chan is 71 today.

Russell Crowe is 61 today.

Could we possibly go a week without Yacht Rock?

No.

Lena Heller

No.

Pat (host)

This week in 1979, the top of the album chart was the Doobie Brothers minute by minute.

Kristen

Sorry.

There we go.

Pat (host)

Oh Yeah,

Kristen

come on now come on now

Pat (host)

shake it off Greg listen to the man listen to the man saying All right on this day 1943 the NFL made helmets mandatory

Greg

Happy

Pat (host)

birthday to the World Health Organization created by the United Nations this day in 1948

Wish it was a happier birthday for you guys before somebody took a hammer to you.

But what can you do?

Katanji Brown Jackson was confirmed as the first female Black Justice on Supreme Court this day three years ago.

On the national calendar today, this is Explore Your Career Options Week.

Well,

Kristen

it's been good.

I'm going to get out of here now.

Pat (host)

Yep.

This is National Library Week.

I already mentioned this is National Beer Day, celebrating the repeal of prohibition.

Every day is

Greg

National Beer Day in Wisconsin.

Pat (host)

I know.

We're enjoying your purries here.

Kristen

It's in our daily newsletter.

Pat (host)

Go check it out.

This is National Coffee Cake Day, which, you know, coffee cakes, to me, it's got to be.

It's got to be good.

There's too many coffee cakes out there that are dry, you know

Lena Heller

My

Pat (host)

coffee

Kristen

cakes are to be terrible.

I have to hate it

Pat (host)

and this is a metric system day Hang on.

I'm being paged by a grandson.

What Easton come up for what's that?

Okay, I'm hearing about the good coffee cake here in Idaho We're gonna look into that later.

I really should have got him a microphone and a headset That was that was a fail on my part So I was gonna say metric system day and I don't know why if there's a particular hook on this but when I look at you know

places where the US is kind of shall we say gone alone out in the world, not always for better.

The metric system should have been our first tip off like, we're a unique kind of people here, you know, we would rather live out that Nate Bargazzi sketch about, you know, standards and weights and 2000 pound pounds will be called a ton.

What about 3000 pounds?

There's no name for that.

You know, 1,000 pounds or

Greg

whatever.

You must have been like in high school when they tried to implement the metric system.

Pat (host)

I think I was

Greg

in like sixth grade and

Pat (host)

there was so

Greg

much pushback.

Pat (host)

And I just, and I'm, as a kid, I'm like, what are you, what are you pushing back on?

This is easier.

This is easier.

Are you so locked into force of habit that you can't learn something new?

Yes.

Yes, came in

Greg

response.

Simply

Pat (host)

don't

Kristen

take away my freedoms.

Pat (host)

All right.

Okay, my freedom to be more complex and

Kristen

not

Pat (host)

live as long and not have as good educational outcome and on and on.

So Lena, very quickly, what are we going to hear after after the news break here?

Lena Heller

Oh, all sorts of things.

Well, a few things from the rally on Saturday, similar to what happened all across the country.

So we will hear from a couple of the speakers at the rally in Eau Claire.

Pat (host)

Kristen, can you hang around?

Lena Heller

Yeah, I'd love to.

Pat (host)

All right, good.

So we've got that and also a couple of folks from the Chippewa Valley Health Cooperative talking about creating a new hospital from scratch in Western Wisconsin.

Is it now the age of the Independent Community Hospital nonprofit once again?

That's all ahead on Up North News Radio on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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