Extortion in the Oval Office, Again (Hour 1)

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Extortion in the Oval Office, Again (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Mon Mar 3, 2025

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Now, live from our Lake Basota studio, here's the founding editor of Up North News at Bright Low.

Pat Kreitlow

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6 0 6 on this Monday morning, March 3rd, 2025.

It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north live from Lake Basota for more everywhere you're listening across the Civic Media radio network.

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Thank you for starting your week right here.

I've got a question for you.

Couple actually first one is when was the last time you forgot to set an alarm?

Cause I thought, you know, at my advanced age, I mean, I know memory will be an issue eventually, but I, I couldn't possibly tell you the last time that I forgot to set an alarm.

I just, I just do.

It's just the thing that you do.

apparently until last night so it's a good thing that Sherry had an alarm set as well because otherwise I might still be snoring and drooling at this point which is a little bit odd but you know it was a it was a long fun weekend stayed up a little too late watching the Oscars and thankfully I'm here bright eyed and bushy tailed maybe a couple of minutes less so but still here nevertheless here's my other question for you did you know there was a movie named Dinora

because again, watching the Oscars, I saw it win one award and then another, and another, I was like, literally I've never heard of that movie till just now.

I mean, you hear about all the contenders, you know, whether you've seen them or not, whether you've heard of them or not, but apparently I didn't hear enough about this as an Oscar contender, but apparently a lot of other people didn't either.

It was a big surprise winning Best Picture and getting a lot of attention.

Still a pretty good show overall.

you know Conan O'Brien is definitely not for everybody but you know it worked for me it was perfectly fine until I was too tired and went to bed forgetting to set an alarm along the way our forecast says that no matter how much you you wish that spring were literally around the corner what's around the corner

is a big nasty storm.

A strong system that's going to bring widespread rain, gusty winds, the potential for accumulating snow tomorrow into Wednesday.

Too early to speculate on amounts given that there's going to be a lot of rain on the front end of it, but Wednesday morning's commute could be very snowy and windy for a lot of folks.

And so be be

Tune into your radio, keep your weather apps handy and everything else to know what's going on starting later tomorrow and then into Wednesday.

At the bus stop this morning, temperatures look like this.

It's 29 here on Lake Wasota, 26 in Hayward, 28 in Amory.

Wasos at 30, Wisconsin Rapids 30 as well, La Crosse and Green Bay and Madison, all reporting 31 degrees right now, 32 in Milwaukee.

It's 33 at Radio Park and Racine, where we'll check in with Greg Bach in just a moment.

Coming up on the program this morning, we should be hearing from Dr. Kristen Lyrely as we often do on Monday mornings.

Then we will in our second hour talk to author Laura Bird.

We haven't checked in with her for a little while and the last couple of visits she has made book recommendations to us.

This time around we're going to talk about book clubs.

We need a diversion.

Lord knows we need a diversion.

given recent events.

And books and book clubs do that for a lot of folks and might be your next new favorite activity, especially after Laura talks to us about how to find the right book club or how to start a book club and how to tailor it so that it works best for you.

So stick around for that coming up at 730 this morning.

But right now at 10 past six on this 3 3 25, we bring in one

Greg Bach from Radio Park in Racine, who I asked him today's question.

He was familiar with a movie called Enora, so he's one up on me.

So one point for Bach.

Mr. Bach, watch the Oscars at all.

Good morning.

Gregory, sir.

Greg Bach

Good morning, Pat.

I'm doing well.

Thank you.

Good morning, everyone.

Thanks for asking everyone.

Um, I just, sorry, I was very, very tired.

Um, I did watch, watch the Oscars last night up until 9 32 PM.

Ooh.

Cause

Pat Kreitlow

if you were

Greg Bach

watching it on Hulu, Hulu shut it off.

So I missed best

Pat Kreitlow

actor.

I

Greg Bach

missed, I missed best actress and I missed best picture.

Pat Kreitlow

Hold on.

It was.

So, so Hulu was was carrying it live.

Same as ABC.

Greg Bach

But there's difference.

ABC was carrying it live.

If you're watching on channel 12 or whatever your ABC affiliate is, you're watching it live.

Hulu had it as a slotted piece of programming that went from 6pm until 932 and at 932, it just stopped.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

And that's how it is.

It appears in the TV guides.

was that, oh, it's a six to nine 30 thing.

And then they give it a couple of minutes in case the last beach runs long.

When was the last time the Oscars went only two minutes over?

Well, correct.

Correct answer.

Not any time that I can remember.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I was really bummed that that let go let go was never employed at all last night, even though Adrian Brody, I hear.

Yeah, he should have gotten a look.

Not gonna lie that that as a producer, as a person who makes his job.

makes his money, making sure programming goes off without a hitch and timing is huge.

When he said, cut the music, I've done this before.

I'm like, Oh, buddy, don't dare me.

Don't dare me.

That orchestra is about to get really

Pat Kreitlow

loud.

No,

Greg Bach

it's and you can make an argument that his speech was very heartfelt.

I don't disagree with that.

I thought it was very, very beautiful.

Do you want to say, but he could have written it down because there was a lot of ums, us and like he didn't, he did not prepare that speech.

And, um,

from a logistic standpoint I'm like dude you just like if you if you would have went like if you said I'd be brief and that would brief was like 15 seconds be talk for like another minute and a half

Pat Kreitlow

yeah yeah and and again just just riffing at that point yeah there were only a couple of folks that came up there with a speech that was uh not made up and not written down but actually memorized you can tell they knew what they wanted to say which

Always surprises me that doesn't happen more often because you know their Actors their job to write something down or get something and memorize it and and essentially perform it You know and you can't do that for when you're nominated for the biggest award of your life That's that's my personal thing.

I guess

Greg Bach

so No one no one I didn't see I didn't see the young lady from a Nora's speech a camera her name and I did not see the speech

for a Nora, which that guy just kept on winning and winning and winning, which was amazing to watch.

But, uh, Zoe Saldana speech was amazing.

It was on time.

It was heartfelt.

It was emotional.

Pat Kreitlow

It was

Greg Bach

the best speech of the night.

Period.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, it was.

And it featured that one part that is always awkward for everybody, the moments of ugly crying.

Yes.

You know, when the moment really hits her, I remember Halle Berry kind of had the same thing.

Yep.

And you just, on the one hand, it's a genuine moment, but you also feel bad because you're going to look back at it and go, ooh, you know, a little bit of cringy, but it's because the feeling was so deep that she had.

uh, for somebody who's been in like all of the, the biggest money making movies ever and now to be recognized with an Oscar was a pretty cool deal for her.

So yeah, good for her.

And like I said, Conan, not for everybody.

He's off for me,

Greg Bach

baby.

I loved every minute of it.

Pat Kreitlow

Uh, apart from his gratuitous opening number about not wasting time.

Yeah.

Cause it's like, okay, I see what you're doing there, Conan.

Uh, but I, I did love the, the beginning with, uh, with the stars from Wicked.

Um, I liked, I, I, I guess I just liked a lot of it.

Um, not, not that it's going to win any awards necessarily, but you know, for a little Sunday night diversion, it totally worked fine by me.

Greg Bach

I know people who won Emmys for their work on the Academy Awards.

So who knows who I like the fact that the winning was spread out.

No one, I don't, I don't believe anybody was, uh, not Sean, but, um,

Snubbed snubbed.

I think every movie that was like majorly.

They all won awards So wasn't like oh wicked didn't win anything.

Oh my god, like everybody got some awards

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, including Kieran Culkin who maybe gave us the most awkward speech insane Well, you promised me a third kid if I won an award and a fourth if I got an Oscar To which you could just

feel like all the wives out there going, no, don't you ever do that to me ever.

But also don't promise your husband you'll have more kids if you win an Oscar because he might actually call you on a national TV about that.

Greg Bach

He's the kind of person who will do that 100% for the joke.

Even if it's just a joke, he will do it for the joke.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, no doubt there.

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Christian Yelich made his first spring training start on Saturday, making three at bats as a designated hitter, continuing his comeback from back surgery last August.

He had two strikeouts and an RBI ground out, but said he felt good, so that's a nice development.

When you consider Mr. Bach that the regular season home opener is four weeks from today.

That's, that feels so good.

It also means that March Madness isn't far off and the basketball playoffs in the NBA.

Yana said 29 points.

Damien Lillard 28 as the Bucks beat the Dallas Mavericks on Saturday.

The two teams will meet again on Wednesday in Milwaukee, but first the Bucks have a game Tuesday in Atlanta.

The 11th ranked Badger men's basketball team fell at eighth ranked Michigan State yesterday, 71-62.

There are now two games left before the Big Ten tournament.

The Badgers will play Wednesday night at Minnesota.

You'll be able to hear that game on several civic media stations and on the Civic Media app starting at seven o'clock Tuesday, or Wednesday rather.

And then Saturday they'll host Penn State before that ends the regular season and then the conference tournament begins.

The 21st ranked Marquette Men beat Georgetown on Saturday.

Their last two games are at Yukon Wednesday and hosting St.

John's on Saturday to get set for the Big East.

conference tournament and the Badger women's hockey team beat up on Bemidji State over the weekend, continuing their conference tournament this Friday in Duluth.

More after this on Up North News Radio on the Civic Media Radio Network.

You're about to hear Cab Calloway with his band from a 1943 movie The movies from 1943 will tell you why cab Calloway is in today's history lesson coming up in about a half hour But I want to do especially bring up this tune jump and jive from that movie stormy weather from 1943

If you've never seen this come across your social media feed, it is probably the best dance number in all of Hollywood.

You can just give the Oscar to that one right now for best dance routine ever by a couple of guys called the Nicholas Brothers.

And their dance routine all throughout the restaurant where the band is playing is just a sight to behold.

So just a little something to pass along here.

I was just telling you before the break about the Badger Women Hockey Team.

Continuing in their conference tournament later this week in Duluth, when I said they beat up on Bemidji State, let me go a step further.

The scores were three nothing and 11 nothing, including eight goals in the first period.

So the Badger women continue to prove why they are the number one team in the country.

The Badger men's hockey team is in the Big Ten tournament.

The quarterfinals will be at Ohio State on Friday and Saturday evenings.

and then again Sunday if needed for a best of three series.

So we wish all the best to both the Badger men's and women's hockey teams moving forward.

One of those coincidences you didn't really expect to have happen has happened to our plans for a live event about the Wisconsin Supreme Court race.

We are holding a live event on Wednesday, March 12th.

at the Overture Center in Madison, all about the Supreme Court race, three different panel discussions with all kinds of great guests talking about what the court could do about education, about reproductive health rights, about the economy and jobs.

You wanna learn more, head over to UpNorthNewsWI.com slash Supreme to learn more.

Here's where the coincidence comes into play.

It was late Friday.

When I first got the note of, hey, your, your live event is on Wednesday the 12th, right?

I said, yeah.

And they said, oh, you know, they just scheduled a Supreme Court debate for that evening.

I said, what?

Uh, but fortunately for us, uh, in a sense of good planning, again, unintentional, our event runs from five 30 until seven.

And then the debate starts at seven.

So our, our panel discussion has now become a panel discussion slash watch party where people will be able to come and hopefully monitor the debate after hearing all about what's at stake.

So again, head over to upnorthnewswi.com slash supreme to learn more about that.

Well, let's, let's take a moment and talk about what New York times columnist Brett Stevens.

called a day of American infamy.

And that, of course, would be the, how do you put it, embarrassment, the disgrace that happened in the Oval Office when the president and a surprise appearance by somebody who may not have known he was still the vice president, J.D.

Vance, both showing up in order to ambush and gang up on Volodymyr Zelensky from Ukraine.

And

berate him and badger him in front of cameras all quite intentional of course to you know do what only Putin puppets could do I mean this was expressly doing the bidding of Vladimir Putin was to make it look like Ukraine no longer had a full ally in the United States and

I mentioned Brett Stevens column for this reason.

It was it was the one thing I passed along on social media about it because I never thought I'd have anything good to say about Brett Stevens.

He's he's the New York Times conservative columnist.

I much like I would have said about Liz Chady back in the day disagree with about 95 percent of what comes out of their mouths.

And yet we have found these places where there is basic agreement, you know, on things like global security.

democracy, standing up to dictators and things like that.

And Brett Stevens begins his column by reminding us about a meeting in August of 1941 between Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, where they drew up the Atlantic Charter, a joint declaration about the world's leading democratic powers and the common principles they share for a post-war world.

talking all about no aggrandizement territorial or other sovereign rights and self-government restored to those who have been forcibly deprived of them access on equal terms to the trade and raw materials of the world that are needed for economic prosperity and then Brett Stevens goes on to say just just imagine what would happen if

the the powers of Europe had come to Franklin Roosevelt and Roosevelt said well actually I'm I'm I'm thinking you should just be nicer to Hitler and by the way sign this deal that lets me have a lot of your mineral rights and Can you do that, please and if you don't I will badger you and and Hector you in front of the

you know, the newsreel cameras.

That's where we're at in this country right now.

And for those folks who would say, well, this was a comeuppance for Ukraine, and they were, you know, assuming too much from us.

Again, put yourself in their shoes.

They had every reason to assume that when we say we stand for peace and security in Europe, that we mean it.

with very limited exception of a couple of extreme goofballs in Congress.

There were no voices in United States leadership indicating any hesitancy whatsoever that you have to stop what Russia's doing in Ukraine because otherwise it's gonna look at Poland, it's gonna look at the Baltic States and next thing you know, we're gonna have a full-fledged war in Europe again.

And the only way to stop that is to stop Russia in Ukraine and not allow them to be rewarded for their aggression, for their war, for their attempts at Ukrainian genocide.

All until Donald Trump came along who has always had nothing but wonderful glowing things to say about Vladimir Putin.

And so now we face an instance here where

Again, there's no right way to describe the embarrassment.

And there are a handful of low points in American history.

You know, Plessy versus Ferguson comes to mind, the Dred Scott decision comes to mind.

But this may be one of the lowest.

And it's one that the United States is going to have to work very hard to overcome if we're going to have global security and a secure standing.

Today is a 3-3-25, so we thought we'd bring a lot.

Three is a magic number.

Plus, it's got that phrase, a man and a woman had a little baby.

And Kristen Liarley delivered that little baby, and she joins us now.

Chief morale officer of Up North News Radio, how you doing?

I'm good.

Kristin Lyerly

I love a little schoolhouse rock in the morning.

Pat Kreitlow

Absolutely.

So you are back.

I can't keep your work straight.

But you were up north for quite a while.

But you're there.

You're back home.

It's not a green screen.

Your boys remembered you.

Yeah, I got home

Kristin Lyerly

last night.

I got a long conversation about the different ways that they wrestled and beat each other up.

I learned a lot of new words.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh dear.

I can't

Kristin Lyerly

say them on the air.

At

Pat Kreitlow

least I probably

Kristin Lyerly

shouldn't.

Pat Kreitlow

Nope.

Nope.

We were visiting Sherry's parents over the weekend and at one point Sherry was telling a story and and she she let a word drop that I don't normally hear her say around her parents and I was just like then again we are approaching you know our six decade of life.

I guess if you can't say bad words in front of your parents at some point then you never can.

Kristin Lyerly

Yeah, I learned something new every day from them because they have a whole other Vocabulary, yes, you know like they're the Gen Z people and they remind me that their gen is a Z and my gen is an X and There is there is a place for us to be able to communicate with each other and they're always so funny when they're teaching me new words

Pat Kreitlow

Oh gosh, the the new words thing is one of my favorite things on on social media now on like tiktok or Instagram reels is when they when people have their parents,

Greg Bach

they have

Pat Kreitlow

their parents say something in the current lingo, while they take a drink of water the kids

Greg Bach

and they

Pat Kreitlow

try to hold it in can't they start laughing much the same way if Greg Bach were to take a drink of water as I were to start talking about some of the the names of no you can't do

Greg Bach

it

Pat Kreitlow

on the board if I say 50 cent you can't

do that.

Well, also,

Greg Bach

Pat, you're not that much older than me.

Like, it's not like, like, like my, like, she's certainly got a lot of Riz then water everywhere.

But

Kristin Lyerly

you never use the word certainly in the same sentence as Riz.

I did learn that.

Pat Kreitlow

You did.

Okay.

I'm I'm still

I'm still not anywhere near knowing what some of those things are and I I now take it as like a mission like you still want to learn everything like I want to

Greg Bach

know what that

Pat Kreitlow

means I want to know what this is and you get to a certain point we're going I'm not I'm not going to use that that those words are going to be you know laughed at by their own kids before too much longer you know you

Kristin Lyerly

know what it's like it's like the old Valley girl thing

Pat Kreitlow

back in the

Kristin Lyerly

80s yeah spoon

Greg Bach

yeah

Brody, you know

Kristin Lyerly

ready to the max,

Greg Bach

right?

There's words that we think the kids use and I was talking to my niece and nephew who are 23 and 19 respectively and They were like, yeah, that's not even words.

We use that's that's like Jen That's like they're Gen Z like that's middle schoolers who are using those words.

I'm like, oh, how does that feel to be old before?

Kristin Lyerly

Oh, I like how you turned that on

Greg Bach

them.

I was

Kristin Lyerly

gonna be about you,

Greg Bach

but then you made it about that.

Oh, you're the old one.

Okay, I'm just gonna go sit back with my Nescafe and just enjoy night out.

Kristin Lyerly

Read the paper.

Pat Kreitlow

Well, it's and that's that's why again, as somebody who actually does like to study words and figure out how they're used and everything, it's the ones that have stickiness, they have stain power.

Let's say, you know, if I still and now it's ingest, of course, but if I say when

Greg'll send me a note and I'll send back groovy.

And it'll be like,

Greg Bach

okay,

Pat Kreitlow

but you know, but you know, cool, cool is not always a thing, you know, and yet we still use that word.

So some words.

can stand the test of time.

Others, you know, not so much.

But did you watch any of the Oscars last night?

Kristin Lyerly

I didn't.

I was on a plane.

I caught a couple little clips, though.

And I have to say, I'm I'm really excited about a Nora.

I don't know if there's been any controversy.

I don't know if you guys have talked about it at all.

But I really loved that film.

I know it was very adult.

Greg Bach

And it

Kristin Lyerly

had a lot of a lot of themes that maybe some people wouldn't be comfortable with.

But I thought it was incredibly well

Greg Bach

done.

Pat can't talk about it because up until last night he

never heard of the film.

So

Pat Kreitlow

nothing, but nothing about it as as a contender or any anything.

Just like, what is this?

Greg Bach

I can't.

I can't.

I think it was his first his first speech.

Sean, I'm trying to look up his last name because, you know, he won four Academy.

Yeah, four Academy Awards last night.

Him alone.

He in his first speech, I believe, thanked.

sex workers and the work they did and how like they allowed him to be part of the process and into their world and then he told us beautiful speech on this third Academy Award about the importance of seeing movies in the theaters and I always feel like since the pandemic Hollywood has been kind of like low-key bullying us back in the movie theaters even though we don't really want to because And it's their fault

Because they're the ones who say, oh, on streaming today, like a week after it comes out in the theater.

So why would I bother going to the theater if it's going to be I can watch on my couch?

Pat Kreitlow

I did, I did like the Conan skit about that,

Greg Bach

about

Pat Kreitlow

how we've now built something called a building for movies.

Cinema

Greg Bach

stream.

Pat Kreitlow

Cinema stream.

We've put 800 cell phones.

We've glued them together.

So you can see it on one big cell phone screen.

How do I hold it though?

You

Greg Bach

don't.

You just

Pat Kreitlow

sit and enjoy it.

The building holds it.

Kristin Lyerly

Yeah.

But where most towns like where we live, Anora was not.

on the big screen in

Pat Kreitlow

Green

Kristin Lyerly

Bay.

Pat Kreitlow

And

Kristin Lyerly

his fourth speech was about the importance of independent media.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

You know, Conclave was one that Sherry and I had actually wanted to see.

We saw some of the ads for it and it came to Chippewa Falls for one or two weekends

Greg Bach

and that

Pat Kreitlow

was it.

And so we finally saw it streaming like, you know, two months later or something like that.

which I, I had a sense was going to win more awards, even though I didn't think it was, you know, it, I wouldn't have called it a great movie, but there was, there was a lot of, you know, buzz, not Riz, right?

Buzz.

It'd

Greg Bach

be Buzz, Pat.

Okay.

A lot of buzz about the actors can have Riz.

The movies have buzz.

Sure.

Kristin Lyerly

Greg's an expert.

Greg Bach

I know.

Kristin Lyerly

Conglaive did have that like, I will win an Oscar feel.

So did the brutalist.

Both of them felt like Oscar movies.

Pat Kreitlow

What do we, what do we think of Adrian Brody winning two best actor Oscars for basically portraying in the same role?

Holocaust survivor.

Greg Bach

He kind of mentioned it honestly in his speech.

He mentioned the fact that like what his, the circumstances where I felt and that he was very thankful for being, I mean, you know, I don't, I don't think it's because of.

It can't just be because of the movie or the topic or even it's the confluence of all the things coming together to create the performance that he gives.

And it just happened to be that this was about someone who survived Nazi Germany.

The

Kristin Lyerly

other one was more about him being a Holocaust survivor.

This one was more about what happened after that.

It wasn't exactly the same role by a long shot.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, I totally get that.

But it would be like, you know, Bob Denver doing a show where he's once again stranded on a desert island.

But this time he's not called Gilligan.

He's he's called Gilligan, something like that.

No, not the same.

Okay.

The comments sections are busy today with

Greg Bach

what did we say now to upset them?

Pat Kreitlow

A lot of Putin apologists are back here telling us things like Trump is pro-peace, Democrats are pro-war.

We've got a reminder about impeachment because what Trump did in the Oval Office on Friday really isn't that much different than what he did in his first term, which was commit extortion in the Oval Office.

To

Greg Bach

the same guy.

Pat Kreitlow

to the same guy going, I want you to do me a little favorite, nice little country you got there.

It'd be a shame if something happened to it.

And I can control whether your country gets a steamrolled or not by my buddy Vlad.

And Zelensky too much to his credit.

I mean, he just sat there and watched them make jackasses of themselves.

Greg Bach

I mean, so disrespectful.

Yeah, so, so disrespectful to a sitting president.

I mean, and that defies.

It

Kristin Lyerly

was Vance, you know, with all due respect, Mr. President, you're being disrespectful.

Yeah.

And like, who are you

Pat Kreitlow

and why are you?

Have you said thank you once to this president?

Have you said thank you once when he's actually said thank you time and time again?

It's J.D.

Vance and Donald Trump who have never said thank you.

to NATO for they were the, this was the only time after 9-11 that NATO invoked Article 5 and all the nations of NATO committed troops was right after 9-11 to help the United States.

So, you know, it was very, it was very apparent, you know, very naked what was being attempted there in the Oval Office.

And, you know, you could tell Zelensky, he kind of knew this was going to be

Not a great thing going in probably did not expect the full on on camera ambush that he got.

But again, this is a guy whose country is being bombed out of existence.

So he's used to these kinds of assaults and dealt with it, brushed it off his shoulder and headed back home.

And all of Europe is behind him, saying, well, the U.S.

hasn't got your back, but we do.

Greg Bach

I over the week yesterday, I was just I don't know why I was scrolling through Facebook.

But I was, I came across two of my cousins who are posting like, well, as reported by Tucker Carlson and it's this really poisonous.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Um, this real poisonous rhetoric of, of how Zalinsky is part of the same party that were the Nazis and, and he is the aggressor.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh my God.

That's

Greg Bach

so

Pat Kreitlow

three years old.

How?

Greg Bach

How can you do that?

How can you just change your mind?

We all watched it happen.

We all watched in February of 2021 when or 22 when when Putin rolled into

Ukraine, and we were all horrified.

And we're like, we can't do this.

And now all of a sudden they're like, well, Zoliński is the aggressor.

He's the one who started this all.

Pat Kreitlow

For the same reason, those, those same folks who were horrified on the evening of January 6th, then on January 7th, by about January 10th had changed their minds and had decided that somehow these were all plants, you know,

that we're invading the capital.

And it's that level of misinformation that you can knock people back on their heels with the truth.

But eventually they're going to get back up and they're going to try to start spewing misinformation again.

And so it's incumbent on all of us to just keep coming back time and time again.

Kristen, you know this, you have heard every talking point in the book about reproductive health rights and you think that you've held this argument for the 10,000th time and yet somebody else knew will come up and say something that you go, no, here's what science actually says about these things.

That sadly is just part of the human condition as we always have to, you can never just assume, well, I've told the truth enough times, I think it should stick by now, right?

Kristin Lyerly

I think for me, I say it over and over and over and over again in public, but then when I am with a patient.

in the office and we're having the conversation and it's clear that this one individual has not heard the things that I've been clearly they've been not been listening to me in public because you know not everybody hears the same stories and so we have to have that conversation on an individual basis and that

Makes it that really brings it home for me how important these grassroots conversations are how important it is to talk to your neighbors to go to the theater to Just go to the grocery store and talk about something of Substance with each other the things that really matter to you what's happening in our public schools the cost of groceries how we can support our neighbors in need

all of these things are the things that pull us together instead of this top down ugly media where they are feeding us talking points that frankly are not true in many cases and these people are it's propaganda they create their own reality but we can push back by having these conversations with each other.

Pat Kreitlow

Somewhat related to this and if I'm not giving you enough time we'll get into it more at the start of the next hour here but

There's a lot of Republican fixation on Governor Evers using a term called inseminated persons in place of mothers when talking about things like IVF.

Kristin Lyerly

This is funny.

Go

Pat Kreitlow

ahead.

You got 60 seconds.

Go for

Kristin Lyerly

it.

So in the budget, they're replacing words like husband and wife with man and woman and inseminated person.

And it's scientifically accurate.

It is the right thing to do.

Like my kids aren't running around going, inseminated person, where's my other shoe?

Nobody's trying to replace your mother with inseminated person.

They're just bringing things up to speed.

They're adding sperm banks because that's not part of the current law that in a lot

of people do get their semen that they use when they are seeking artificial reproduction.

So they're just bringing the law up to speed.

This is politics.

This is propaganda.

Trying to get you all riled up about the culture wars.

Don't buy into it.

We're better than that.

Pat Kreitlow

Please buy into it.

Please don't buy into it.

We are better than that.

And that this is, we're talking about legal terminology that is more inclusive, although the notion of your boys still running around the house going, in seven-ated person,

Kristin Lyerly

where's my shoe?

That would happen here,

Pat Kreitlow

actually.

I'm just going to say, if they've heard this, you know they're now going to do it.

Today's history lesson coming up right after this.

You're up north.

3 times 7

Greg Bach

is 21, 3 times 6 is 18, 3 times 5 is 15, 3 times 4 is 12 and 3 times...

There's

Pat Kreitlow

Cap Callaway again, this time doing Mini the Moocher.

This one is from the Blues Brothers in 1980, but he recorded it on this day in New York City in 1931.

It would become the first jazz recording to sell a million copies.

Cab Callaway passed away in 1994 at the age of 86.

And I was referencing earlier Stormy Weather and the Johnson Brothers dancing to one of his other Cab Callaway songs.

And he just reminded me as a kid when there were only three TV stations.

You know, there was no cable, there was no internet or anything.

And so...

If you were up late, like after Johnny Carson, it was nothing but these old movies.

You know, whether it was, you know, Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly or Cab Calloway or whatever.

And again, I feel like...

I don't mean to sound all old here, but we don't have that communal experience of everybody watching the same old movies, you know.

Now we're sitting here going, Anora, what's that?

No,

Greg Bach

no, no, we're not.

You are.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just me.

Just me.

Um.

By the way, that same day, 1931, when Cab Calloway recorded this, the Star-Spangled Banner was adopted by Congress as our national anthem.

Happy birthday to Jennifer Warren, a 76-year-old today born in Seattle, Washington.

This was her big solo hit from 1976.

Well-known for her duets.

Definitely that you

Greg Bach

should say that a softer Linda Ross that sound like

Pat Kreitlow

yes She she had two Grammy Awards One for her 1983 duet with Joe Cocker up where we belong and in 1987 with Bill Medley For I've had the time of my life, which we will play a little bit later on in the show Jennifer Warren 76 today

Happy birthday to ToneLoke.

This one's going to make the younger's feel older.

ToneLoke is 59 today.

Kristin Lyerly

Oh, this line reminds me so much of college.

Oh,

Greg Bach

yeah.

And here's one for the music nerds.

The sample behind it, Van Halen's Jamie's Crying.

Kristin Lyerly

Uh-huh.

I never put that together, but thank you.

Pat Kreitlow

ToneLoke born Anthony Smith in Los Angeles.

On this day in 1972, did I give you a link for coconut or no?

Okay.

On this day in 1972, Nilsen's album, Nilsen Schmilzen was certified gold and I meant to get you coconut because it's all about calling the doctor and woke her up.

You know, put the lime in the coconut.

Put the lime in the coconut.

Kristin Lyerly

I'm not the one who needs to be woken up, buddy.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, true.

Shots fired at a guy that forget to set in his alarm this morning.

Let's move right on to Metallica releasing their third studio album this day in 1986, the title track from Master of Puppets.

Greg Bach

Would you like to spend the rest of the show talking about this album?

Because I can.

Pat Kreitlow

I was just about to say.

And here's Greg Bach with some other fun fact about Master of Puppets.

Recorded in 1985

Greg Bach

to 1986 in Sweet Silent Studios over in Europe by Fleming Rasmussen.

This was the last album in the future.

Cliff Burton as their bass player as he would die later that year in a bus accident in Lundi, Sweden.

Lundi.

I can go on.

Pat Kreitlow

That's OK.

That was good.

We've got the dead bass player.

We're ready to move on.

Happy 28th birthday to singer Camila Cabello who was born 28 years ago in in where Camila?

Where?

Ah yes, thank you.

On this day in 2017, the Nintendo Switch was released.

Kristin Lyerly

Oh my gosh.

Pat Kreitlow

Is that a thing for your boys?

Kristin Lyerly

It's a huge thing.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

I've never heard you so dead pan about something.

It's a huge thing.

Kristin Lyerly

Yeah, my switch.

Pat Kreitlow

How many times did you threaten to or take away the switch from the boys for not doing their homework or cleaning their room or something?

Kristin Lyerly

No, I'm more of a like, no, I really haven't done that.

They just they do the right thing when we have a conversation.

Let me put it that

Greg Bach

way.

Back in my

Pat Kreitlow

day,

Greg Bach

a switch was a totally different thing.

Pat Kreitlow

I was going to say, I was going to take me to the switch, and yeah, you're right there with me, buddy.

Back in my

Greg Bach

day, they didn't take it away.

They made me pick one.

Pat Kreitlow

Yep.

Let's see.

We've got, first, a new month, a new week, so we've got all kinds of things on the calendar today.

Let's start with the day.

Today is talking third person's day, Pat said.

That's weird.

Yeah, I know.

This is National If Pets Had Thumbs Day.

Also weird.

That's also weird.

I know because we only have so much room for stuff on social media now with our pets doing crazy things.

Kristin Lyerly

Some cats have thumbs.

Pat Kreitlow

Today is National World Wildlife Day.

This is Caregiver Appreciation Day.

Oh,

Kristin Lyerly

that's a good one.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, it is.

We

Kristin Lyerly

appreciate you caregivers.

Pat Kreitlow

We really do.

Yeah.

Uh, this is national 33 flavors day.

Must be a Baskin Robbins thing.

Uh, it is Canadian bacon day.

It is Irish whiskey day.

I could put all those together with Baskin Robbins, Canadian bacon, Irish whiskey.

Uh, I'd also have to note that this is a Mold wine day, Moscow mule day, national ear care day.

Just

Greg Bach

get wasted

Pat Kreitlow

month.

Yep, I know.

This is Women's History Month, as we mentioned earlier, and International Women's Week.

And with it being a new month here, this is Brain Injury Awareness Month, MS Awareness Month, Reading Month, and Frozen Foods Month, which I suppose could be everything.

I don't know if it's just about...

vegetables or what, but we're counting pizza, right?

Because, I mean, if it weren't for frozen pizza, I wouldn't eat, you know, two, three days out of the week.

It's a food.

It is a

Greg Bach

food.

Kristin Lyerly

Aren't we like the state that consumes the most frozen pizza?

Pat Kreitlow

Probably.

I wouldn't surprise me.

And you know why?

Because Wisconsin makes more pizza cheese than anyplace else, I believe in the world.

And it's the best.

Kristin Lyerly

You know, Jack from Jack's Pizza.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

Kristin Lyerly

Used to work with my dad in Kakana.

It's true.

Pat Kreitlow

Wow.

OK.

So much trivia today.

I have nothing for that.

So much of a trivial, which is what we do best here.

Author Laura Bird helps us find or create the right book club in the second hour of Up North News Radio.

Still ahead here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Live from Lake Wissota, I'm Pat Krightlo.