Once you get past the outlandish rhetoric, the political stunts, and the real impact of the Trump administration’s mass firings of essential workers, you can finally ask yourself what’s at the heart of it all—what’s the real reason for all of this chaos? The answer is remarkably simple, as we discuss with Courier Newsroom political correspondent Keya Vakil.

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