Transcript — Rockonsin’s Dennis Graham talks 2026 Highschool Garage Band Competition

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On the wire, run lights into my head. There's a house, there's a fire. It's the dance and took a great few days.

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Sorry.

We've got a lot of interesting stuff coming up, I'd say tonight or just in the future.

There is a lot of stuff coming up here tonight tonight.

Stripe, he is owner of Ultimate Arts Tattoo.

We're going to hear about them.

You know, they started in the late 80s, they've been doing tattoos.

Really?

And they just moved into a new location, so we'll hear all about that.

And maybe about some non-ferry animals.

We'll have to see what's going on.

Melissa Cain, she is contact modality expo's founder and creator.

And we're going to have her on the phone tonight.

She's going to be calling in from Warsaw.

And tonight, live from the Mad City is Barbie Lane.

Of course, that features a dentist's face.

I'm surprised he didn't hit his head on the doorframe.

It is the tallest microphone we've ever set up.

Yeah.

But he brings in this brand new band, right?

Michael Haftner, Magic Seven, Muzzy Luchton.

You might know him from Richard Stanich.

He used to be with leading zeros.

And Michael Sunder, powder monkey, sketch, driver 13 and more.

This is like kind of a local all-star band you might say.

Live from the Mad City, we have a lot of stuff coming up in the future.

I just wanted to let people know that April 4th, for some reason,

we don't have a band schedule there.

So if you think your band has the mustard to come in here on Maxing Radio

and play on the live on the radio.

Do it. I dare you.

Music, it's civic media. US send us an email.

The 11th of April, candy cigarettes coming in here.

That's going to be a rock and show.

The 18th of April is the middle.

They're from out in North Milwaukee and play machine.

We're going to be playing some of them tonight.

They'll be here on April 25th and a new band.

We're going to have them me second.

So there's a great schedule coming up live from the Mad City.

We do it every Saturday night, eight to nine p.m.

My band right here in the studio.

Let's see where we're going to go from here.

You know, I couldn't believe I thought we might get snowing out tonight.

Earlier in the week, I was thinking there might be like 80 inches of snow

or something.

Yeah, two feet.

Right.

The prediction said one to 24 inches and I was okay.

Which one is it?

One or 24?

And we're here tonight.

No snow on Steve Street.

People are walking around.

There was just a little bit of a sprinkle earlier.

But now that's stopped, hopefully.

Well, let's keep in moving on with brand new music.

Kirstie Carl's sheet is from Jamesville, Madison area.

The band Thirsty Jones.

Of course, she moved to Nashville.

But she's still making new music all the time.

This is a brand new song.

Kirstie Carl's.

This is you got that loving.

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I'm always been fine on my own.

And a penny woman and happy alone.

With no problems, sleeping at night.

And a speech burning with no worries inside.

And I had a pretty good lay of the land.

By taking manners into my own hands.

Never knew I wasn't more than I already had.

Then you came along with one I need so bad.

Yeah, I want it.

Yeah, I need it.

You're gonna help it.

Cause you got that loving and needs so bad.

Yeah, you got that loving and needs so bad.

In this crazy life you caught my eye.

I can't see who has my right or die.

Never needed more than what I already had.

But you got that loving and needs so bad.

Yeah, I want it.

Yeah, I need it.

You're gonna help it.

Cause you got that loving and needs so bad.

Yeah, you got that loving and needs so bad.

Yeah, I want it.

Yeah, I need it.

You're gonna help it.

Yeah, you got that loving and needs so bad.

Yeah.

Why do I have to learn a hard way?

Always the hard way.

Why do I always have to learn a hard way?

Why do I keep on making the same mistakes?

Even though I know it's true, I'll always be with you.

There's nothing more to say.

Why do I always have to learn a hard way?

Why do I always have to raise the stakes?

I try to argue with you, even things I know are true.

I have to learn a hard way.

Why do I push you so far away?

Then you should all stay.

Build your walls up so high, then one while you pass me by,

I have to learn a hard way.

Why do I always have to learn a hard way?

And come on from the bar to lay.

Then come back and make a scene.

You're pretty in me.

Then one girl in my way.

And one girl in my way.

Why do I have to learn a hard way?

Always the hard way.

I keep on making the same mistakes.

Then come back.

Yeah, God's outlaw, that is the hard way.

And that is brand new from their album, Tales from the Hardway.

I think we premiered that last week, maybe.

And March 21st, God's outlaw is going to be right here.

You guessed it live from the Mad City on Maxing Radio.

That should be it.

That should be a change.

If you don't really get too many country bands in here.

Yeah, and you know, he's bringing the stand up.

I have a stand up basin here.

We'll have slide guitar.

And of course, big Brian Smith singing those low and vocals.

That's going to be really fun.

The 24th of March, they're going to be at Shake Hall in Milwaukee

with Struggle Jennings and the 28th of March Main Street music

in Brooklyn, Wisconsin with Mason Meyer band.

And they'll be releasing that brand new CD.

That'll be a lot of fun.

Great artwork on that too.

And lots of little stories and Easter eggs all over in the artwork.

So you got to get it.

Pick it up and see if you can find them all.

Let's see.

We have, you know, lots of great stuff coming on.

Stripe is right here from Ultimate Arts.

See, he's just around the corner.

And then tonight we'll be talking with Melissa Cain.

You know, she's from the.

Contact modalities.

Expo.

Contact modalities.

Expo.

You know, I'm going to ask her exactly,

what are contact modalities?

I got to know.

Yeah, me too.

That's.

I got a lot of questions.

Yeah, I have almost too many questions.

Like, how can I do the God helmet?

That would be fun, I think.

The what?

Yeah, it's a helmet they're supposed to put on and supposed to give you

a spiritual experience.

Oh, really?

I think so, yes.

I thought that was like, I, a Husker or something.

Close enough.

Oh, well, we still have a planing to come here on.

I think it's a lot of fun.

Oh, well, we still have a planing to come here on.

Sure.

But play machine, that is another band that is going to be right here

on Mexican radio live from the Mad City.

And we didn't get it right last time.

A Joey B. Banks.

And who?

Joey B. Banks and the clutch studios.

I'm horrible.

And why did you have this name another week?

Well, it doesn't matter because you know who they are.

They are play machine.

And Joey B. Banks is on drums.

And how do we pronounce this song name?

Gene.

Me's on Sen.

This is play machine.

You're listening to brand new play machine right here on Mexican radio.

We are local music.

You think I'm playing?

I've got you in every move.

It's satisfying to know that you're going to lose.

I'm still alive.

You're a big piece of us.

I'm still alive.

You're a big piece of us.

So you'll always have never gone mad.

You're a big piece of us.

I'm looking at you.

I'm looking through you.

You're so dumb clever to get through this one next play.

It's automatic.

Too end it in the other way.

I'm still alive.

You're a big piece of us.

I'm your little son of a friend.

You're a clever one.

I'm looking through you.

You're a clever one.

I'm looking through you.

You're a big piece of us.

I'm looking through you.

You're a big piece of us.

I'm looking through you.

You're a big piece of us.

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Everybody, my name is Rocker.

I'm here with Jane in the control room.

That's right.

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There's a lot of stuff happening out there.

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In Madison, the art of tattooing has a long and vibrant history.

And few studios have contributed to that culture as consistently as Ultimate Arts tattoo.

Founded in 1988, the shop is known for original artwork, award-winning artists,

and a reputation that attracts clients from across the country, even internationally.

It's Madison's best place in town to get poked.

And tonight, founder and award-winning tattoo artist Stryte joins us in the studio.

Stryte, welcome to Max Inc. Radio.

Hello, hello, how are you?

Good man, good to see you here again.

So I got to throw one correction for him, not actually the founder.

You're not the founder?

I believe I'm the third owner.

You're the third owner.

Yeah, the studio started back in like 1998 or 1999.

I was still in high school back then.

I didn't get into Ultimate Arts until 94 is number one.

Oh, wow.

And then I worked up to the manager and then I worked up to buy in the place.

I'm sick of this.

Wow, that's pretty cool though.

I mean, honestly, I didn't know all that much history.

I found on the internet that it started in 1988.

Yes, that was a husband or wife were running it at one time.

And then it just kind of bounced up to me.

Wow, where was that location?

I think the first location was right by East High School, very short time.

And then after that, it was on Antwood Avenue.

Oh, I can't remember the name of the bar that's there right now.

But I think it's the harmony.

Oh, really?

Oh, yeah.

So I could half of the harmony is where the original main Ultimate Arts was for a few years.

I actually remember that now.

I didn't realize that that was in Ultimate Arts.

Yeah.

Well, you know, at your home, your fur baby doesn't have any fur.

Oh, I got one of them.

Oh, you do.

But I know that you have one that is just skinned, right?

Yeah, I got a scale.

You were doing some research.

Yeah, I got a black and white Argentine Tagu, which oddly doesn't have scales.

Really?

It feels like leather with native beads on it.

And it's black?

It's black and white, it's main color.

But then as the orange sheds, it kind of changed their gorgeous.

And she's about, you know, almost four feet long.

Wow.

She's a good patch.

They call them the puppies of lizards.

They'll sit on your lap.

They'll hang out.

It just wanders the house from time to time.

And it's got big enclosure that it hangs out at.

But it's a pretty fun.

How big is your enclosure?

About the size of two refrigerators.

Wow.

It's pretty big.

Oh, my goodness.

What is that kind of a thing to eat?

Oh, rodents too.

It's favorite eggs.

It likes a medium to soft boiled egg.

It makes it very heavy.

It's fruity.

Yes.

Straight before we get to Ultimate Arts again, tell us a bit of your backstory.

How did you get started as a tattoo artist?

Oh, a tattooing story was a little funny.

I was a chef.

I went to cooking school and art school at the same time.

Okay.

And my goal was I wanted to do food art.

I wanted to do ice sculptures, wedding cakes.

I wanted to do a photograph that we're in gourmet magazine or in advertising.

So I wanted to prep those gorgeous plates and do these neat things.

Unfortunately, I was back in the early 90s.

I really couldn't find a job doing it.

So this tattoo thing came up and I wasn't really big into tattoos.

But I saw where something was happening.

I looked at this tattoo magazine and I was like, oh, this is like real art.

There's these people, especially down in the Chicago area,

that were doing these really nice actual more like paintings than they weren't tattoos.

The days of the old traditional sailor theory were going to die.

And they were like painters at wonderful graphic artists doing great work.

And I'm like, oh, I could be in the beginning of this.

And so with the limited art school experience that I had,

and I charged into it head first,

and I got to ride this wave of artwork blowing up.

Wow.

And it was really cool.

I can't complain about that projection.

Now, what was your parents role in kind of your artistic and your food?

Were they supportive of being an artist?

Slightly.

Both of them when it came to tattooing, they were like, find a real job.

They weren't that into it.

But my dad owned an advertising art studio.

So they did the pre-press preparation for stuff.

So I grew up sitting on light tables and using razor blades to cut colors out

and playing with CMYK combinations and doing color separation.

So all these techniques.

Yeah.

And yeah, pre-press.

There was no scanners.

No digital.

Yeah.

So they did all that stuff by hand.

And I sat there with all these people.

It had graphic arts degrees doing this tedious and not in this stuff.

So I knew I didn't want to be in that part of the artwork.

So that definitely taught me that much.

Well, were you artistic as a kid then?

Yeah, I drew most of my life.

It was just kind of always the thing.

I was the doodler in class that got yelled at all the time.

But my comprehension while doodling was better than if I wasn't.

So they let me.

Oh, that's funny.

That's true.

And you're in a motorcycle.

Are these?

Oh, yeah.

I used to.

No, I got.

I got a BMW.

I am boozy.

Oh, it's pretty cool.

Yeah.

I got off the Harley thing.

Probably five years ago or so.

I just got psychofixing it.

And it was a pain in the button.

I didn't like the world that surrounded it.

And I got a very fast, very large BMW.

For a whole lot less than it would have hardly.

Well, that's very cool.

Well, now tell us about ultimate art statue.

And where are you at?

And you've got a new location.

And tell us about, you know, why you moved.

Well, start the story.

I'll go back to 2000.

That's about when I bought out the former owner.

And I wound up almost immediately being evicted from the place we were at.

Weird circumstances.

Goofy.

So I found this new place, which is the one you've been to,

which is that little place over.

Yeah.

And we moved in there.

We're about 24 years.

We were rocking along a really tiny and a horrible parking lot.

Today's full size pickup trucks couldn't fit in there.

It was kind of bad.

But we'd, you know, rocked along pretty good.

You know, lots of artists, lots of people.

And then we ran the big toy drive every year.

Tats for tots.

We're bringing 1,000 people in one shot, like just in a matter of,

you know, four hours we could have almost 1,500 people roll through that.

Wow.

And we did a lot of crazy stuff.

But then city of Madison's, why is wisdom decided they prefer apartment complexes over in that area.

And so they pushed for that.

I got a year.

They gave me years.

Notice that here's what we're doing.

Yep.

And I went past it on the way here.

It's gone.

Yeah.

It's demolished.

And so I went out about a six month search.

Absolutely.

But great to us.

And we found this good building took forever for the city to let us move in there.

Hmm.

I think we're going to move in in July.

But then it took all the way till November to actually finally get the cities.

Okay.

Oh, bureaucracy is not fun.

Well, where is the new location?

And we are now on 2017 South Staten Road, which is right by farm and fleet.

It's across the street and a little bit towards the north from there.

Sure.

It's really neat.

It's about double the size, huge parking lot pickup trucks can actually park there.

Yeah.

Which is what everyone's complaint was.

So we got you covered.

And we ran the first toy drive out there this year.

And it was, oh, it's great.

Because we have over a hundred parking stalls.

Wow.

Yeah.

And so we brought so many people through so fast.

And you know, we're running over a thousand people through in those few hours.

And it was.

It's pretty spectacular.

That was the three weeks after we opened.

How many artists do you have doing tattoos in your current location?

So right now I have.

There's four of us here full time.

One guy who's just working his way in.

And I have an apprentice too.

And then we have an assistant that works there.

And I've been interviewing people.

It would probably get him.

It might have up to about seven over the next couple of few.

Wow.

It's been growing and it's busy.

And we're doing really cool stuff in this large space.

It's really well lit.

And it's bright and fun.

And we're having a good time.

Now you just mentioned twice for tots and ultimate arts has always been involved with community events over the years.

You know, talk about some of your successes and your belief in community engagement.

Absolutely.

One of the most important things I think any individual business can do.

If you don't give back, you're taking money out of your community.

And if you don't put it back in, you're not a good person.

You're not a good business.

So, you know, I guess some people do tie things of 10%.

I'm going to do more than that.

And I'm going to make sure that people, I buy jackets for homeless.

We do, I'll just regular give-outs for that.

I've collected a lot of money for cancers.

Individuals with cancer.

Individuals with just about any problem.

We did a mental health awareness fundraiser.

We helped with a couple of weeks ago.

We helped out by donating to a guy who's bringing his daughter home from India.

And just needed the funds to get him back.

So, it says many things we possibly can to keep giving back to the community.

Some of them will be our clients that we're helping.

Some of them are just generically who needs help.

We're going to be there for it.

Wow.

And if kids that are local need toys, man, I like toys.

I like them a lot.

You've seen my garage.

Oh, yes, yes.

But if you don't, I just say shame on you for putting it all at your own pocket

and helping your community grow.

Wow.

That's incredible.

I really love that.

How can we keep up with ultimate nerds online?

We're like literally everywhere.

We got ultimate arts tattoo.com.

We got a TikTok page.

The Instagram page, Facebook page, Twitter page, or X or whatever you call it.

There's a social media page.

We're probably on there.

I think the only thing I don't have would be a Pinterest page.

That's because I lost my login.

Otherwise, I'd be everywhere.

Nice.

Is there anything we missed about Ultramanards?

Got any specials or anything coming up or anything you want to announce?

I don't know.

We never do specials.

But we have thought of them.

We just never get a drone to it.

It's a we thought about it special.

Head into the new location.

Yeah.

Then we get so busy.

You know, it's fun.

I love being busy.

Well, that's awesome.

I can't wait to go over to the new shop and park my big pickup truck in your brand new lot

and bring some Star Wars toys.

Yes.

You know I like that.

Thank you so much for coming down to the studio to chat with us tonight.

I'm Maxing Gradio.

We really appreciate it.

Hey, love you guys.

I listen every week.

And I love Madison music.

Well, let's get to some Madison music right now.

Taylor Sherrick.

He plays with the Fufu dolls.

And I'm looking.

Do we have what he's playing in a place?

Oh, we don't have any.

He's playing in a place.

But you know, we just had him in last week.

And you can get the podcast at civicmedia.us.

Just search Maxing Gradio there.

And let's listen to it right now.

This is brand new Taylor Sherrick.

The flame you're listening to Maxing Gradio.

We are local music.

Music.

Reason in the dead of winter.

My heart was feeling cold outside.

Feeling stuck in trapped inside my mind.

Will I ever get to see the light?

Then when I saw the flame was finally there.

I couldn't help but start running towards you.

So listen closely to these words I say.

It's coming from my heart and it's the truth.

The fire's rising in.

I've got it.

I don't think we should let the flame die out.

Because when I look inside your eyes I feel like I can be myself.

And that's enough.

When I see you looking back at me.

Much better than it I'm beginning to miss.

When I see you walking in the room.

You turn my eyes on great hill.

The fire's rising in.

I've got it.

I don't think we should let the flame die out.

Because when I look inside your eyes I feel like I can be myself.

And that's enough.

So tell me baby will you give me all your heart?

It's swim out to the distance.

Because I will give the distance for your baby.

Would you go for me?

Come on baby, let's take my hand and jump into a light with me.

Just dance inside the flames of love you can see what I say.

And when I see you rise.

The fire's rising in.

I've got it.

I don't think we should let the flame die out.

And when I look inside your eyes I feel like I can be myself.

And that's enough.

Just laugh.

And that's enough.

So tell me baby will you give me all your heart?

It's swim out to the distance.

Because I will give the distance for your baby.

Would you go for me?

Yeah.

Just laugh.

I don't think we should let the flame die out.

Because tell me baby will you give me all your heart?

It's swim out to the distance.

And when I look inside your eyes I feel like I can be myself.

And that's enough.

So tell me baby will you give me all your heart?

Yeah.

Just laugh.

And that's enough.

So tell me baby will you give me all your heart?

Yeah.

To believe in a dream is a one thing.

And to live in a dream is another.

But to live on a dream is something scary what to do.

Once in a lifetime true I remember you and it's hard.

It's time and another love into vision.

Yeah.

Hardest time in a country that it never sleeps.

And I want it and I need it.

We're done to see me.

Culture is the most important and I want it.

And I need it.

We're done to see me.

Hardest time in a country that it never sleeps.

It's time and another love into vision.

Yeah.

Magic 7 that excuse me.

Magic 7, that is a throwback to harvest time, which was happening around 1999.

I think they came out that was on, that was live survival.

A live from the Mad City music show as Soup нравится and that was back in WIBA in the

day.

She used to record a band similar to what we do here for Live in the Mad City and do great

interviews.

And that one was, of course, Magic 7 members of last crack and but with a different drummer.

This drummer here was Mike Haifner on drums and Mike Haifner is playing tonight.

He's going to be back so soon.

I think they're all getting Ian's pizza right now.

That's right.

And he plays with Barbie Lane currently.

So I thought we'd play that throwback to Magic 7 harvest time.

And we also have some great stuff still coming up tonight.

Thank you Stripe, owner of Ultimate Arts Tattoo.

He was great.

What a fun guy.

I love hanging with him.

He's so funny.

He's been around for so long.

I love his community spirit.

He really got to love that Melissa Kane.

She is contact modality, expose founder and creator and we're going to be talking to her

about the second one that's coming up in Deleven pretty soon may first through third.

And the earthlings are playing that.

They're from Madison.

They're a local band.

We play them.

Very strange music.

I dig it though.

It's a little strange isn't it?

It's perfect for the modalities.

Yeah.

I bet you they're talking to aliens that they have to be like there's no way it can sound

like that otherwise.

I think they have a song about talking to aliens.

It's called area 51.

We'll have to pull it out sometime.

Oh yeah.

It's very strange.

Yeah.

They love and hope.

They are a job bookie from Nadie Nation and his drummer there.

Great guys.

They're going to be up here.

The guitar players coming here from Arizona.

They're going to be here.

So we're going to have in the studio for an interview and they have some brand new music

out.

It's a brand new band.

And they'll be here April 11th on max ink radio right now.

Let's check it out.

This is peace love.

Hope smelling salts.

If you're listening to max ink radio, we are local music.

We got to wake up world, it's time to see a better life to live for all of you and

me.

I'm talking to the mystus, I'm talking to the sisters, I'm talking to those that might

not know and might have missed us, we got to wake up world, you got to feel it, I'm

feeling, you got to wake up world, you got to do it, I'm doing, you got to wake up world,

I want people singing, you got to wake up world, I want to say it now, say it now, I don't

know.

Come on.

Stay there.

Get up, get up, get up, yeah.

Get up, get up, get up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So did you think you'd live forever?

Like the blue off in the sky?

Did you think you'd find a treasure?

And you'd never have to die?

And so would you live forever?

And you'd never have to try?

And would if life didn't matter?

Like the tear drops in your eye?

Baby, now I don't know, but I've been told.

Life gets hard, and life gets old.

Well, I don't know, but I've been told.

You got no life, and you got no soul.

So did you think love lasted forever?

Like the moonlit summer nights?

In the back of my Camaro?

The strings came down real nice?

And so would you live forever?

And you'd never have to cry?

And would if life didn't matter?

Like the tear drops in your eyes?

Baby, now I don't know, but I've been told.

Life gets hard, and life gets old.

Well, I don't know, but I've been told.

You got no love, and you got no soul.

You got no soul.

Baby, now I don't know, but I've been told.

Life gets hard, and love gets old.

Well, I don't know, but I've been told.

You got no life, and you got no soul.

You got no soul.

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Drift down in summer days.

And sunset rays of light.

Then overnight you find.

You fell behind while you were sleeping.

Everything is everyone.

Is everywhere for all time.

Everything is everyone.

Is everywhere.

And all of my misery is self-inflicted.

I am the victim of no crime.

Just badly timed precision.

Each decision spends a universe where everything is everyone.

Is everywhere for all time.

Everything is everyone.

Is everywhere.

Behind the door you find another door.

You open up the door to find another door.

You open up the door to find that everything is everyone.

Is everywhere for all time.

Everything is everyone.

Is everywhere.

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The trouble with trouble is a trouble with you.

One too many still one too few.

It's a bigger world you gotta have it all.

And you fall, you fall.

The trouble with you is a trouble with me.

You gotta run into all the trouble we see.

You can't break this streak of luck.

Wired to solve the struck bad blood.

Running through our veins so alive.

In a midnight drive and rain.

Push it down and push it down.

But it keeps on rising up.

Bad blood.

You will trouble from the ready set.

And I'm still ain't free in your trouble yet.

Pretty lies are pretty face.

Pretty easy, far from grace.

And down we tumble into the flame.

Damn, there's a devil that no one needs.

Now we're putting out a fire with the blood.

Bad blood.

Running through our veins so alive.

In a midnight drive and rain.

Push it down and push it down.

But it keeps on rising up.

Bad blood.

Yeah, that is too trick pony and guess what, Jane?

What?

That is brand new.

No way.

Brand new music just sent into us.

That tune we just heard.

Bad blood.

And before that, everything is everyone.

And that's from their new EP entitled September.

And they're coming up.

And remember we had Dana Perry in here last week.

We were talking to her about her CD release party.

Yeah.

Well, true trick pony is the other part of that dual EP release show.

Oh.

It's happening March 20th at the seminal tap.

That's out.

Yeah, that's by Fitchbury.

I know where that is.

The seminal highway.

Pretty much.

That's a couple of minutes from where I live.

Oh, nice.

Well, you know, that's a great place.

New.

It used to be Funk's pub, right?

Uh-huh.

They changed around in there a little bit.

And I hear they have some great stuff.

Like, I heard about their pretzels already.

Really?

And I've heard about their fresh fry.

So I'm really pining to go in there and get something to eat.

When I was training to be a trivia host, I trained twice at the seminal tap.

Oh, really?

I love that they have two rooms.

I actually trained in both one more like a stage and one more like a bar.

Well, that's right.

Because when it was Funk's pub, you know, Funk Jeff Funk, he's a musician, bass player,

plays, and many bands.

And, you know, when he owned the bar, he wanted to open that other side

as a live music venue.

And, and you know what is really unfortunately about it?

What?

How about that?

Is that he literally had his first show like right before lockdown.

And yeah.

And you know what?

He wasn't open long enough to, um, if you remember the subsidies that they were

getting for, for venues and stuff during lockdown.

You had to be around for more than a year.

And he had just opened.

So it really kind of hurt the club.

Too close.

That's why you have that other music room there.

Uh-huh.

And so that again, dual EP release show happening March 20th with two trick pony and Dana Perry

and also Kelly Hepper and Mo onions will be playing that show too.

So that is Daniel.

My name is rocker.

He was Jane interested in Maxing radio.

We still have a lot of stuff to come.

Uh, stripe owner, vault, my large tattoo was in here a little while ago.

Thanks for coming down.

We still have Melissa Kane.

She is the founder and creator of contact modality expo that's happening down in

Delavan May 1 through 3rd.

We're going to ask her a bunch of questions.

Find out what's going on down there.

Yeah.

Breaking to area 51.

I wonder if she's ever been to area 51.

No, we'll have to ask.

That's one more thing on our, uh, uh, barbie lane.

They are live from the man city tonight.

They're all set up.

We have, I think we have the biggest drum set that we've ever had in here.

It's so loud.

Oh my goodness.

The comics are going to be yelling.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, when I, when I walked in here, it says boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Yeah, that's going on in there.

That's going to be awesome.

So we have the full band.

Of course, that's a Demtas Faye.

guitars singing.

Uh, Michael Haifner on drums.

Richard Stanick from leading zeros on, on bait on guitar.

Well, what am I saying?

And Michael somewhere on bass.

And he was from powder monkey sketch and driver 13.

So just that's a great, uh, bands that they come from.

And they'll be playing right here live from the man city at 8 p.m.

So make sure to stay tuned.

A future live from the man cities are coming up.

Candy cigarette on the 11th of April.

The 18th is the middle from on in Milwaukee.

April 25th play machine.

And, uh, found out Brian Liston.

That is who plays, um, with joy be being thanks to chat out there.

He, he messaged in from Linda in the zeros.

But right now, let's get on to some Dana Perry.

She'll be playing, of course, at this show coming up at the seminal tap March 20th.

Right now, let's listen to her new song.

And it is called Wisco Winter, which is coming again.

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We are local music.

Wisco Winter, she's a bitter cold witch.

She went through two pairs of gloves and my denim skirt.

She bites me with her jagged teeth and icy stare.

Freezing my jeans and stinging all that's bare.

She came home for the day, then fiercely frigid at night.

Weaponizing snow and hiding all the eyes.

Received by the light, she paved its lick and black.

Coming on your feet, she'll leave you breathless on your back.

The frost grows wild here and over Wisconsin.

Latching on to my actions and creeping up your nose.

Yeah, winter is bitch, here it all Wisconsin.

She'll wrap me in her cold embrace.

Ain't never gonna let people.

West coast tidal waves and earthquakes too.

East coast, hurricane's folks bustle and throne.

The southern heat will burn you up.

They got big ass plugs that stain.

Keep your desert and mountain driving.

Don't want none of them things.

I'll take a midwestern skyline with trees for days and days.

Beauty and the changing leaves and the texture of autumn's haze.

We know how the savor spring ends, soak up some sun.

Staying hearty to hunt her down for when that's five months long.

The frost grows wild here and over Wisconsin.

Latching on to my actions and creeping up your nose.

Yeah, winter is bitch, here it all Wisconsin.

She'll wrap me in her cold embrace.

Ain't never gonna let people.

Yeah, winter is bitch, here it all Wisconsin.

She'll wrap me in her cold embrace.

Ain't never gonna let people.

Falling from the market for our time.

Spent on sex and death and suicide.

Life will re-invail to know a day.

Yesterday forgotten any weight.

The sun's still small boys alive inside.

Fifty finish long and leaves the void.

Sacrifice is given.

All right, all right, all right.

As she's in her trail across the void.

Dig into submission.

All right, all right, all right.

To take the wind is going to get away.

Some strong boys will still remain.

To take his fate forever awaits.

Won't you free more than I see never hate.

To take the wind is going to take it away.

Some strong boys will still remain.

To take his fate forever awaits.

Won't you free more than I see never hate.

To take me some more giving me some more giving now.

Grab your soul and watch the crowd.

Oh give me some more giving me some more giving now.

Grab your soul and watch the crowd.

Oh God, deep-fainted heaven's town.

Heaven of the same forever one.

Climb us and we call sin.

We can't come beneath the skin.

Won't you ever lonely occupy?

Free ghost holding hands until we die.

Just to play our forces, trade roles.

All right, all right, then we call.

To take the winners, gonna take it away.

So strong force will steal the name.

To take his fate forever awaits.

Won't you free more than I see never hate.

To take the winners, gonna take it away.

So strong force will steal the name.

To take his fate forever awaits.

Won't you free more?

Last crack, that is three ghosts.

And that was from there, the uprising CD that came on in 2019.

And I thought building up to the contact modalities,

maybe we'll play some ghost songs.

He says ghost in the name, right?

We could have also played some, what's their name?

Sunspot, there's an alien song.

Ghost particles.

I was looking at a bunch of stuff.

But we're gonna be rocking here in pretty soon live.

So I thought I'd put on some more rockin' music

because I love it so much.

And I just wanted to make sure that you guys knew

to send in your music.

MP3 format to music at civicmedia.us.

And so that we can consider it for on-air playback,

just like a lot of the songs you've heard tonight,

or maybe even interview you,

or you could play here live from the Mad City.

That's music at civicmedia.us to get a hold of us.

Make sure to go to civicmedia.us to check out our podcast page.

Search Maxink and all of our podcasts are up there.

You can check out the interviews, all kinds of good stuff.

You can stream from there.

If it's one thing we love more than local music,

it's new local music.

Oh, I know.

I mean, that's where it's all about.

Or maybe even your old dead band.

Right?

We love that music too.

You know, that's where it lives,

right here on Maxink Radio.

Still to come tonight.

Melissa came from Contact Modalities Expo.

We'll be talking to her.

And of course, live from the Mad City with Barbie Lane.

Yeah, there have been chillin' for a little bit.

They're chillin', they're chillin' over on the couch right now.

Let's talk about a Milwaukee band.

You know, these guys have been around for,

I want to say almost 20 years.

They're from Milwaukee.

I can't believe 2005 is 20 years to come on.

Maybe they've been around longer than 25, 20 years then.

Yeah, we can't keep our time straight, you know.

Thanks for reminding me, Jane.

It's hard for me to conceptualize even myself.

My beard just got whiter.

Carbellion, great band from Milwaukee, like I said.

And let's listen to one of their songs.

It's called Listen For Ghosts.

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Welcome back to Max Inc. Radio.

My name is rocker here with Jane in the control room.

Keep in the show running since 2025.

That's right.

Our next guest is no stranger to extraterrestrials, telepathy and harmonic ascension.

Melissa Cain is the founder and creator of Contact Modalities Expo.

An event that's happening may first through May 3rd at the Lake Lawn Resort in Delavan,

Wisconsin.

Thank you, Jane.

And this year's event celebrates the power of music, sound, and vibration in features live music

from Madison's own, the earthlings.

And on the phone with us is Contact Modalities Expo founder Melissa Cain.

Melissa, welcome to Max Inc. Radio.

Thanks so much.

I'm so excited to be here.

Now, Melissa, you know, full disclosure.

We have to know before we do the interview.

Are you telepathic?

Yes, and yes, well.

You knew I was going to ask that question.

We all are.

We just don't know it yet.

We have to remember.

Wow.

Well, hang on.

Tell us a little bit about Melissa Cain.

I mean, what is your backstory?

You were in radio at one point, right?

I was.

Yeah, I was actually in radio.

Not on the air, but I was in radio advertising for key years in Chicago.

So that was like my main career.

My backstory is basically I'm born and raised in the Southwest suburbs of Chicago.

Very normal life.

Went to college in Chicago at the Poly University.

I had 20 years in radio advertising.

I was, you know, living the dream.

No profound experiences in my life except when I got older.

But I did hear stories growing up.

My grandparents lived half the year in Arizona.

So they would drive down to Chicago from Chicago to Arizona every year.

And they'd come back and tell me stories of, you know, they'd be driving down the highway.

Be 12 noon.

They'd be in the middle of the desert somewhere.

And they'd see a cigar shaped cylinder about 100 feet over their car.

Just cruising along for an hour with them.

They were really maddening about it.

But really, that's the only thing that, you know, it kind of peaked my interest growing up.

But not really, you know, not no big deal.

How close were they to Area 51 at that point?

They lived in Kingman.

So I don't, is that close?

I don't know.

I wouldn't know.

But I'm imagining it.

I don't know.

I'm like Area 51, you know, cigar shaped things flying around.

Exactly.

So anyway.

Yes.

Oh, go ahead.

No, I'm waiting here more.

Oh, okay.

So, you know, as I, like I said, I was in radio advertising.

Haven't fun.

I was living in downtown Chicago.

Never thought of a thing about UFOs.

Never really thought about any of this kind of stuff at all.

Got married, moved out to the suburbs.

And one to head kids.

One day my husband and I and my three children, they were all really little at the time.

In 2016, it was September.

We were literally just watching cable advertising or Kate Nakia advertising.

Cable, television.

And one of those documentaries popped up.

You know, those history channel or science channel.

Yeah.

Every channel type documentaries.

And it was like either NASA footage or some kind of space station footage.

Something.

And I told my husband, I'm like, just stop.

I wanted to show my son who was like nine.

I'm like, look, there's these things called UFOs out there.

And usually my husband, John, who used to be a raging skeptic.

You know, like, forget it.

We're not going to waste our time watching this.

Right.

We're watching it.

And something clicked.

I have no idea what it was.

I went back into my den.

I left the family.

I'm like, oh, my goodness.

What is going on in the UFO world these days?

I have no idea.

I've been out of touch for, you know, 35 years.

Started searching, searching, searching.

You know, social media, the internet.

And all of a sudden, all of this information about a Dr. Stephen Greer kept popping up.

And long story short, he had this movie called Serious.

And I watched it right there on the spot, like in my den, from my phone.

And I saw in that movie that he was teaching people how to make contact with extra terrestrials.

And then he was filming all of these amazing lights in the sky and these space traps zooming by.

And I could not believe my eyes.

I was like, oh, my God, what I wouldn't do to start to make that happen.

So from that moment forward in 2016 till today, all I've done is, you know, live, breathe, consume, read about, movies, everything about extra terrestrial contact.

And now it's kind of spread out to a bunch of different stuff.

Now what is a contact modality?

A contact modality is any, it's a method or an experience that people have that purses the veil and allows you to peer to the other side to see what our true reality is.

So for example, there's hundreds of them.

UFOs is one of those experiences, near death experiences, telepathy, psychedelics can have that kind of experience on you.

Plant medicines like ayahuasca, mediumship ghosts, seeing a cryptid like a bigfoot or something like that.

Even breast work absolutely is a contact modality.

Meditation, the list goes on and on and on.

But what they are, are there ways in which people, when you, the man who coined the term contact modalities is a man by a name of Ray Hernandez.

And he realized his theory is all of these things have been studied separately for decades.

What he is proposing and what modern science is now understanding is that all of those things that I had just mentioned are all the same under the umbrella of consciousness.

They're all just wearing different hats.

So a contact modality is something that most of people who have these kind of experiences, they'll communicate with some sort of nonhuman intelligence.

And that could be, you know, whatever they think, it could be an ET, some people call it God, some people call it their higher self, or some sort, you know, Jesus, you know, who knows.

But there's some kind of intelligence there.

And the other thing that's common about these modalities is people lose sense of space or time.

Either they miss time, like they lose time, or they're taken out of their bodies, they feel like they have been in some way.

And then the other thing that happens, and this all of this happened to me as well, is that they come back with a completely different view on not only the world we live in, but on why they're here.

They all of a sudden have meaning and oftentimes they'll be on a mission to spread this knowledge to the world because they've learned a lot of incredible wisdom and things that they didn't already know.

Now tell us the wrong answer for what a contact reality is.

But tell us about the contact modality expo, and one inspired you to create, well, we know what inspired you to create it now.

Just tell us about the expo and the theme is harmonic ascension.

Yes, yes. So the expo started last year was our first year in May of 2025.

And these types of events, similar events have been going on on the West Coast for decades.

You know, West Coast, California, very woo, woo, right?

So they've been going on forever.

So throughout my research over the past 10 years, I'm like, oh my gosh, I have a little kid.

I can't, you know, I run a business. I can't, you know, just be jetting off to California every time I want to connect with these, you know, paradigm shifting researchers in the field of consciousness.

So I started hosting little retreats at a resort that I own up in the Northwoods in the Monaco area, just very small, you know, 20, 30 people at a time.

And we've done it for eight years now, and people have left those retreats completely changed.

And what we would do is teach these contact modalities at the retreats.

Last year, I basically received a download that said, okay, bring it to the big stage. And that's what we did.

So we're doing it again this May for the second year in a row.

And what people can expect at the expo are very experiential sessions.

So, you know, you always know that you learn by doing, right? You learn by best when you actually experience something.

You could read about something all day long, and it doesn't sink in.

But once you experience something amazing, that's when it really hits home.

So what we do is not only do we have a lot of lectures happening by all of these, like Chris Bledso, who actually summons UFOs and they come and show up.

We're doing sky watch all of them.

Wow.

Yes, I'm telling you, I'm not going to promise, but I can kind of promise that you will see something.

Oh boy.

Yeah, I know.

So we have these real great sessions.

But as far as harmonic ascension goes, sound and frequency and music have very therapeutic and healing effects on people in many different ways.

So we have the earthlings playing on Saturday night, who are huge fans of what we do.

I actually met them last year at our event.

They were just ticket holders.

Yeah, Elliott came up to me.

He's like, hello.

No, I'm Elliott.

Exactly.

So we talked afterwards.

I'm like, oh my God.

I mean, when he was telling me that he is interested in what we do, I could not believe it.

He's like immersed.

So all their songs, everything has to do with the subject matter.

Yeah.

All of it.

I couldn't believe it.

That's true.

Yeah, absolutely.

So they are there to just really raise our vibration because there's nothing more therapeutic and healing than really just connecting with one another and just having a good old fashioned time.

I mean, how about it, rocker?

That's true.

It's a live music.

It's where it's at.

It shows from the 80s.

That's perfect.

Well, you know, now I bet you what a lot of our listeners are wondering, is there any way to get a discount off the ticket price?

Absolutely.

You go to our website, which is contactmodalitiesxpo.com.

It'll have all the information that you need there as far as what's happening, the daily schedule, and how you can participate.

If you use the promo code maxink at checkout, you'll get a 10% discount off any of the entry tickets.

Wow.

M-A-X-I-N-K, use that code.

Wow, that's pretty cool for 10% off.

Yep, exactly, exactly.

And there's single day tickets, weekend tickets, and three day passes, and then all kinds of other goodies.

Now, give us the details of the event again and your website so we can go and reserve our tickets.

Okay, sure.

It's contactmodalitiesxpo.

It's at Lake Lawn Resort in Delavan, Wisconsin, and you can get tickets and all the information if you go to contactmodalitiesxpo.com.

It's May 1st through 3rd.

That's a Friday through Sunday, and we have stuff going on all day, each and every day.

So if you check out what's going on, see what floats your boat, you know, and pick the day that works for you or days that work for you.

That's right, and go hang out with the earthlings and catch their set on Saturday night.

That is so fun.

Melissa, thank you so much for coming on the radio tonight and chatting with us about contactmodalities.

We really appreciate it.

Thank you guys so much.

We'll talk soon.

Yeah, we'll get you on one more time before the event and see you and get some updates.

Awesome.

All right.

Thank you so much.

You know what we're going to listen to now?

Let's hear a little bit of earthlings.

The earthlings have a brand new song out right now.

And they just sent it into us.

It's called Carriot.

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We are local music.

All right.

It's a heart of you.

Don't wait for me if this isn't real.

It's so easy being with you.

The schoolboy and me never leaves.

And it's treating me so well.

This far guy thought I must be someone else.

Cause I saw what you saw.

And it's so beautiful.

Too hard to bear.

And I'm okay, you say.

Too a day may never be again.

Let's make the most of it.

And the hell with everything else.

Cause I saw what you saw.

And it's so beautiful.

Too hard to burn.

Too hard to burn

Too hard to burn.

And I thought I saw something else.

When I was holding onto you, is it real?

Do you see it?

Is it real?

Do you see it?

Too hard to burn.

Let me tell you about some things that are coming up, right?

Let's talk about that.

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We can get you right here in the studio.

That's right.

The 11th of April can be cigarette.

The 18th is the middle play machine.

They discovered over at the Battle of the Bands a couple weeks ago at the Burrow.

While I wasn't here, we had Rob Roberts doing the show while I was off judging bands at the Battle of the Bands.

So that was pretty fun.

Don't really good band Indy Pop.

I think they almost won. They're pretty close.

They're in the finals.

Let's see what else is coming up.

We still have Barbie Lane live from the Mad City.

That's where the Demtess Faye, Michael Haifner on drums, Richard Stanick on guitar and Michael Summer on bass.

They're going to be jamming out in just a minute.

But before that, I'm going to talk about this little little band called Iron Plow.

Self promo.

Hey, does anybody know who the drummer and Iron Plow is?

That's me.

Well, you know what?

I just want to tell everybody that we're going to be playing Broadfest.

And Broadfest is coming up Friday, May 22nd at 3pm.

We're going to be on the main stage.

I'm really psyched to do it.

Deserved, deserved.

Last time we were there, we got rained out, so we never got to play.

So this is our chance.

And right now, let's check a song out from Iron Plow.

This is Divine Weep Faye.

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Here I can see the season.

Yeah.

I'm a darkness, calmening up.

We dead of night.

One day you're moaning, it'll be all right.

All right.

My mind goes back to where we were young.

And I feel so proud.

Spread our wings and feel the night away.

We fight.

We fight to find.

I don't think you even know that's right.

Look around.

I see the clouds beating again to roll.

We'll go on forevermore.

Yeah.

My mind goes back to where we were young.

And I feel so proud.

Spread our wings and feel the night away.

We fight.

We fight to find.

Ooh.

Break the ice of Nilvo wanted this to end.

You and I are friends.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

My mind goes back to where we were young.

And I feel so proud.

I'm going to sleep and dream of easy skies when the sun goes down.

I'm awake, I'm breathing, I'm doing so high.

Spread our wings and feel the night away.

We fight.

We fight to find.

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You found Wisconsin's local music authority. This is Magsync Radio. We are local music.

All right, welcome back everybody. You are listening to Magsync Radio. Here we are.

High above state street in our studio, right at the corner of state and West Dayton.

And we have a live bands here every Saturday night, eight to nine p.m.

And tonight we have a dumb test phase Barbie Lane.

And Madison has always been a place where collaboration of local music seems to seem commonplace, a breeding ground for creativity and original music.

And a new collaboration is underway between members of black poets society, magic seven, the leading zeros just to mention a few.

And Barbie Lane is here in the studio with us tonight to talk about their new band and perform live from the man city, singer and guitarist, a dumb test phase drummer, Michael Haftner, guitarist, Richard Stanik, and bassist, Michael Summer, welcome to Magsync Radio.

Yo, yo. Hey, guys, we'll make sure those mics work right get up there.

Just we get everybody in here.

Oh, everything is working fine. Hey, I'm guessing your rehearsal studio is on Barbie Lane.

Is that on? Are you guys north side band? Yes, is Barbie Lane? Did I get it correct?

Absolutely. Make sure to talk right into those microphones, right? Get really close. We like to get close and personal at your north side band, you know,

and Magsync Radio where, you know, a bunch of foodies here. Where do you go to eat on the north side?

Where do you order out food when you guys are jamming?

Man, there's nothing on the north side. It's kind of a drag, honestly.

Nothing on the north side. You crazy? You got a ton of restaurants?

Yeah, okay.

I stop at the cold beef butter barbecue. He's butter barbecue. There you go.

If they weren't so expensive, I'd be getting from them all the time.

Yeah, they are impressive. Hey, we got a culverse.

Yep, culverse. That's always like last ditch up, you know, it's always culverse for sure.

Yeah, I shop at the co-op. The co-op. Oh, that's great.

Before we get to find out about how Barbie Lane came together as a band, we need to find out more about the pieces of this collaboration puzzle.

Adam, let's get your back. Sorry. I mean, how did you get started playing music?

I grew up in a very musical family.

My uncles inspired me. They were dancers and performers at a young age.

And I was influenced by hip hop. So I started rapping first.

So I spent the first 27 years of my life being an MC, rhyming,

living in Seattle, had a hip hop jazz group out there for a while.

Then I came back to Madison because Seattle introduced the guitar to me hanging out with all those rockers out there.

And so that's when I picked up the guitar and I came back here and did the soul rap movement for a few years.

And landed in New York City for 15 years and got into more rock from my man, John Coda out in Brooklyn.

You went out there for Black Poets Society?

No, Black Poets Society was like right after high school.

Oh, I see.

It started in high school.

And that's when we did all the, we got the exposure with all the open coming.

That's when hip hop was at like the biggest bubble, right?

So it was like, we got to play with the day lost souls and the Red Man Method Man's and everybody when they were coming up.

So I got to meet all those great musicians at a time when hip hop was very, you know, special and

silly special, but it's, I feel like it's an era, not necessarily a genre.

But I, you know, but yeah, that's what I did.

And your uncle, he's the bass player in your band, right?

We had them test fade band.

Yeah, my uncle the core.

And he's also the co-founder of the Black Poets Society.

So, you know, we grew up doing hip hop together or being hip hop cultured people, you know, we made shirts together.

We danced together.

We wrapped together and his older brothers were big influences on that.

They brought in the music.

My grandmother was a great seamstress.

So she would always like, make our clothes for us.

And we, you know, there was always something my mom did it.

And like, so wow, you know, family affair.

Well, you know, the Jackson's were the thing, you know, and, you know, in black culture, that was a big deal.

So like, you know, Michael Jackson was like the first artist to, well, the second artist on MTV.

So that's when you really get to see, you know, the big exposure of the music.

But then once hip hop started, I got seducted into the rapid.

That was my jam.

I was like, oh, man, these guys are, wow, look at these lyrics.

I've done my lyrics down a little bit now, but back in the day was about verses.

You know, that's all I did.

Wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap through my sleep.

Wrap in the morning, wrap at night.

I used to walk around as a kid with a boom box on my shoulder.

Go to the pool.

You know, I was, I was just really.

What was on your boom box back then?

I was like, okay, man.

No, man.

Oh, cool.

J's my guy.

Ruck.

I'm GMC.

Oh, cool.

J.

You got a, I didn't realize those heavy rock wrists were getting in me.

You know, they were getting in there.

And I didn't know what it was.

You know, but like, they were in there.

If you think like, oh, cool.

J is hard.

It's, you know, those, those stabs.

Oh, yeah.

You know, rock the bells and.

And I'm the king of rock that is non-hias like a MC.

Don't don't.

You know, like a little improv.

Well, let's get to some live music from the man city with Barbie Lane presented by the Aaron Webberg group.

The first song that you have for us tonight is called The City.

Tell us about this song before you play.

Well, this.

It's funny.

When we came together, they kind of had some names for some songs and I came with the lyrics and.

I felt like the New York City vibe.

So we kind of just kind of took it and ran with it and really just kind of leaned into like.

Making it the story of what it means to show up to a new place.

And, and want to be accepted, but still have to earn your way.

It's.

It's a fun song.

It's kind of like a journey.

Cool.

It's a journey.

Let's hear it.

This is Barbie Lane, the city you're listening to.

Maxing radio.

We are local music.

Come on.

I said, where are you running from?

And where are you running from?

I'm kind of walking.

So what's it going to do?

What's it going to do?

And where are you hiding from?

I'm kind of walking.

So what's it going to do?

What's it going to do?

I'm kind of walking.

So what's it going to do?

What's it going to do?

I'm kind of walking.

So what's it going to do?

What's it going to do?

I'm kind of walking.

What's it going to do?

Oh yeah

Right now

What's it going to do?

Oh yeah

This is a time

Right now

It's not real till you bust a string

Right now

you found Wisconsin's local music authority. This is magsync radio. We are local music.

Madison has always been a place where collaboration of local music seems commonplace.

A breeding ground for creativity in original music and a new collaboration is underway

between members of Black Poets Society, Magic 7, the leading zeros just to mention a few.

And Barbie Lane is here in the studio with us tonight to talk about their new band and perform

live from the man city, singer and guitarist Edem Tess Faye, drummer Michael Haftner,

guitarist Richard Stannick, and bassist Michael Sommar welcomed the magsync radio.

Hey guys, we'll make sure those mics work right? Get up there.

Test test. We get everybody in here. Oh, everything is working fine. I'm guessing your rehearsal

studio is on Barbie Lane. Are you guys north side, man? Yes, north side. Before we get to find

out of how Barbie Lane came together as a band, we need to find out more about the pieces of

this collaboration puzzle. Edem, let's get your back, sorry. I mean, how did you get started

playing music? I grew up in a very musical family. My uncles inspired me. They were dancers and

performers at a young age and I was influenced by hip hop. So I started rapping first. So I spent the

27 years of my life being an MC, rhyming, lived in Seattle, had a hip hop jazz group out there for a

while. Then I came back to Madison because Seattle introduced the guitar to me hanging out with

all those rockers out there. And so that's when I picked up the guitar and I came back here and

did the solo rap movement for a few years and landed in New York City for 15 years and got into

more rock from my man, John Coda, out in Brooklyn. You went out there for Black Poets Society? No,

Black Poets Society was like right after high school. Oh, I see. It started in high school and

that's when we did all the, we got the exposure with all the up and coming. That's when hip hop was

at like the biggest bubble, right? Yeah. So it was like, we got to play with the day lost souls

and the red man method man's and everybody when they were coming up. So I got to meet all those

great musicians at a time when hip hop was very, you know, special and it's still a special, but it's

I feel like it's an era not necessarily a genre. But I, you know, but yeah, that's what I did.

And your uncle, he's the bass player in your band, right? Yes, the Dem Test Fade Band. Yeah, my uncle

the core. And he's also the co-founder of the Black Poets Society. So, you know, we grew up doing

hip hop together or being hip hop cultured people, you know, we made shirts together. We dance

together. We wrap together and his older brothers were big influences on that. They brought in the

music. My grandmother was a great seamstress. So she would, I was like, my car clothes for us and

we, you know, there was always something my mom did it and like, so wow, you know, family affair.

Well, you know, the Jackson's were the thing, you know, and, you know, in black culture that was

a big deal. So like, you know, Michael Jackson was like the first artist to, well, the second artist

on MTV. So that's when you really get to see, you know, the big exposure of the music. But then

once hip hop started, I got seducted into the rapping. That was my jam. I was like, oh, man,

these guys are, wow, look at these lyrics. I've done my lyrics down a little bit now, but

back in the day, it was about verses, you know, that's all I did. Wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap through my

sleep, wrap in the morning, wrap at night. I used to walk around as a kid with a boom box on

my shoulder, go to the pool. You know, I was, I was just, what was on your boom box back then?

Show cool J, man. No, man. Oh, cool J's my guy. I run GMC. Oh, cool J. You got a, I didn't

realize those heavy rock wrists were getting in me. You know, they were getting in there and I didn't

know what it was, you know, but like they were in there. If you think like, oh, oh, cool J is hard,

you know, those, those stabs. Oh, yeah. You know, rock the bells and, and I'm the king of rock that

is non-haya. It's like a MC. Don't, don't, don't, you know, like a little improv. Well, let's get to

some live music from the man city with Barbie Lane presented by the Aaron Weber group, the first

song that you have for us tonight is called The City. Tell us about this song before you play.

Uh, well, this, it's funny. Um, when we came together, they kind of had some names for some

songs and I came with the lyrics and I felt like the New York City vibe. So we kind of just kind of

ticking ran with it and, and really just kind of leaned into like making it the story of what it

means to show up to a new place and, and want to be accepted, but still have to earn your

way. It's, um, it's just a fun song. It's just kind of like a journey.

Cool. It's a journey. Let's hear it. This is Barbie Lane, the city you're listening to

Maxing Radio. We are local music.

Now I'm down on my shirt.

What's it going to do?

And when are you hiding from

and when are you hiding from

I'm telling the world you know

Now I'm telling the world you know

So what's it going to do?

What's it going to do?

No, I'm rap sick.

No, I'm a wrecked stick.

I'm going to break this down to the bottom of the pits.

It's really normal to come in.

Embrace your front line.

Back is one of, so, some of these,

one of, like,

when you went,

see some mini clips of how to manage the chips.

Plus the damage from the package.

I've been namewise since my first 10 minutes on the planet.

Rethical.

It's a capability to understand it.

Lost wasn't the heck as strong as a charismatic.

Two hopes and look back with you and I got you.

Cause it's a big, perfect place to play out of this.

I'm going to be never taken for granted

because I'm gross life.

But I'm never a melody once.

My soul is gone.

So this bullshit made it like brown.

You know what?

Put your heart up in my foot.

Like it's been worse.

Leave me the balance.

What I should do now?

We kept it going, shall we?

So what's it going to do?

What's it going to do?

You want to wear a gun?

Are you running from?

And where?

I got it wrong.

I'm down the washroom.

No.

Down down the washroom.

So what's it going to do?

What's it going to do?

Why are we laying this city?

Wow that was really going to add this, funky.

That was good stuff, man.

First time I've ever heard it.

Jam Hamming served 15 years in New York City pursuing a career in music.

What can you tell us about the experience from jumping to like Madison's music scene

to the Big Apple's music scene?

What was the change like?

Wow, it was a long journey but it was a lot of technology changes at that time

and I got there, there wasn't smartphones.

So you have to be on the street but the music is just pouring out everywhere.

You go from the subway to hearing music to seeing musicians on the street to

trying to get in the clubs and walking around and networking and meeting people.

And there was actually specific scenes like you could go to this club

and you know there'd be rock music that night or you can go this club

and you know there'd be jazz music that night or what so have.

It's just such a monster to navigate.

You got to be very clear on what you want to do.

I can imagine.

Be scary coming from.

I mean we're pretty close in here in Madison.

Well yeah, but you can't be intimidated by it.

They're just people.

There's a lot of shitty bands in New York too.

Just like there's shitty bands everywhere.

Scoop, sorry.

Well I know.

Let's meet guitarist Rich Stanick.

Rich, how do you get started playing music?

What's your back story?

Nice to see you again rocker.

Back story, that's not that exciting.

So I was a fine young Catholic boy and then you know doing my thing.

And then all of a sudden A.C.D.'s who came up my brother bought an album.

If you're going to point a point on that, is this cool enough?

Yeah.

Then that would probably be a point of time and musical desire.

What was your parents role in your musical?

I'm bringing.

Force piano lessons.

You know that's interesting because I was going to bring up your son.

He went to MCDS over there with my son.

One of the things that they do is force you to take piano first.

They do up until like fifth grade.

They do.

So how did you feel about, you know, now how do you feel about force piano lessons?

I think that your parents gave you.

Yep, yep. Good question.

I can answer that.

So what I mean by that is force piano lessons is they forced us to stop playing music.

That wasn't that fun.

So in his case, he got to do music that was fun.

And great teachers and putting the fun into it versus just, you know, the sort of the um,

drudgery of it, you know.

So they did a great job at MCDS.

I take my head off to him and put the plug out the John Shipper, right?

Yeah, John Shipper really.

You know, Mr. Shipper, right?

You're all.

Well, now you know one thing you are is a father, right?

Yes. I brought up your son, Tyranny.

Thank you. And he's a drummer.

Yes. And he's out there doing stuff. Tell us about Tyranny.

He's in Nashville.

And he's doing good to start.

He graduated from Belmont College, which is a music school.

Great drummers and some great influences.

And of course, he was, you know, he hung around the music scene that I was when I was in bands.

As a kid, we picked up a lot so over the first drum sets.

And to him, this is kind of the funny story.

So we were on some of the musicians.

He was so used to going places with the drum sets.

That when he got to a place, he's like, where's the drum set?

Just like a house would have a TV.

He's like, where's the drum set?

You know, like there must be one.

Yeah, there must be a drum set here somewhere, right?

In fact, let me give you props because I think the first drum set he played was that little one.

That was your sons.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, that one.

That one, seriously.

Yep, that's a great one.

Because we always encourage him beating off things with spatulas.

Right.

And, you know, percussion instruments.

But like an organized drum set, I think was actually your sons.

Was the first one that he actually played?

Well, that's funny. Yeah, that little mini drum set.

Well, it's, you know, I mean, all the musicians that I talked to you,

I'd say a large percent of them always credit their parents.

Yeah.

With some kind of start, some kind of support, some kind of, you know,

impetus into the music.

So we love to hear that.

And I'm glad that your son is out there playing and finding some success as well.

Thank you.

Well, let's get back to live music from the man city with Barbie Lane presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song you have for us tonight is called Good Excuse.

Uh, Adam, is there ever a good excuse?

Yeah, there's a good excuse to do nothing.

Like, you know, we live in a music.

That's what this song is about.

We live in a world where, you know, production is very highly rewarded.

And this song is about making time to just enjoy your life and just be in the moment

with the people you love.

That is a good excuse.

Well, let's listen to it right now.

This is Barbie Lane, line from the man city on Magsync Radio.

Mm hmm.

I got a skis for nothing to stay home.

I got a skis for nothing till they close.

We don't need a reason.

We're just taking time.

We got a skis for nothing till we're alive.

I got a skis for nothing to take it slow.

We don't need a reason.

We're just taking time.

We got a skis for nothing till we're alive.

And I love you baby, and I'm part of life.

I got a skis for nothing.

Take it slow.

We don't need a reason.

I know where to go.

We don't need a reason.

We're just taking time.

I got a skis for nothing till we're alive.

And I love you baby, and I'm part of life.

Been for making life until the morning light.

With all this fast pace, everything you kind of feel like a race.

But this is time for us to pull back just to watch the world together.

This is just for you and me baby.

Me and you come.

And I love you baby, I'm upon a line.

And I'm making love to the morning light.

And I love you baby, I'm upon a line.

Well, it's not me.

It's rich brought us together actually.

Well, we're going to we're going to find all about that for sure.

But thank you. They're great guys.

Adam, Barby Lane is coming up with new original songs.

Are these songs you bring to the band or do these songs originate in the rehearsal studio?

It's a combination of the two.

Like the what you've heard is the stuff that we've worked on together.

Rich came up with most of the original hooks.

Well, core progressions and they worked together and then they brought me in.

And I added the guitar riffs and the vocals.

So it's kind of been a collaborative thing.

And it's been great. We've had a lot of fun.

We like click right from the beginning.

First time I came down and played with them.

It was like, oh, wow, this is cool.

You know, I'm playing with guys that are combined with immediately.

It's like frictionless for me personally.

I don't know if they do the same way.

Well, let's get back to live music from the man city with Barby Lane presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song you have for us tonight is called Loose Control.

Is this a song about Perastrica?

Trust me, but verify.

No, it's just a song about someone who likes to let it go and get into their vibe.

You know, I'm, I love dancers and people who express themselves really well.

And this is our, I think this is the first song that we actually wrote together as a group.

Where we all were like contributing to like the inception of it.

You know, before people would bring in different links.

But this is the one where we were like, okay, this is a, this is our one of our, one of our identities.

Nice. A true collaboration.

Well, let's check it out. This is Loose Control.

You're listening to Barby Lane live from the man city on Maxing Radio.

Come on.

Is that finally out?

Are you going to see?

What does that even mean?

Because I was so sweet.

This I feel her baby.

This I feel your toes.

And when you're moving out.

You're touching my toes.

If they knew, they wouldn't stop the show.

I'm your fool.

And I'm all I can show.

You're amazing.

You're with your parents.

And when you're moving out.

You're right in my world.

It's your energy.

It's under your toes.

And when you're doing your thing.

It's just my soul.

I'm your fool.

And I'm all I can show.

I'm your fool.

And I'm all I can show.

Dance with me now.

Come on.

Dance with me now.

Wow.

Barbie Lane, that is loose control.

Hey, we'll be right back after this break with Barbie Lane,

live from the Mad City on Maxing Radio.

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All right, everybody.

Here we are back to live from the Mad City on Maxing Radio.

This is Rocker.

And I'm here with Jane in the control room.

And we are here with Barbie Lane.

And what an incredible band.

Well, right now, you know what we're going to do.

We're going to we're going to meet Mike and Mike.

The mics are born one day apart and have been bestie since childhood.

Let's start with bassist Michael Summer.

I think you might be the metalhead of the group playing with bands like driver 13

sketch and powder monkey.

Mike, how did you get your start playing music?

My parents were very musical.

Mother was an organist in the church and sang.

My dad was in several college bands played guitar, sang and played harmonica.

Drums was just a natural thing for me.

I had a staircase that sounded like Neil Perts Towns.

They finally decided to get me a drum kit to keep me from falling down and breaking my neck.

And then I joined drum corps, Madison Scouts for four years.

And then I met Michael in high school.

I kind of transitioned from the drums to the bass guitar to cover for a bass player they had

that was sort of not showing up all the time.

And yeah, I developed a love for the bass guitar then.

Oh, man, you know, there's nothing better than a bass player that used to be a drummer, right?

They, you know, as a drummer, that's a dream because they always get your pocket.

They're right in tune with your bass and snare.

That's what makes it, I think.

You know, talk about, you know, as iconic as other band members of Led Zeppelinware,

bassist John Paul Jones, he was epic.

What made him such a unique bass player from your perspective and briefly?

I think he was the master at bridging percussion with rhythm and melody.

Those things all came together.

He hooked up with Bonham incredibly well, but developed these beautiful bass lines that really drove the songs.

And now let's give the drummer some.

Michael Haver, Mike, you've been in huge bands like Magic Seven, Muzzy Luckton.

How did you get your start playing drums and what's your backstory?

Oh, man, you know what?

I started out probably like nine years old.

I want to play Ace Freely.

I want to play guitar, man, I love kids.

I love kids, you know, and I want to play guitar.

And unfortunately, nobody in my family knew how to do that.

It's very supportive parents, anything I got into.

And I just remember like going to a garage sale with my dad.

Yeah, it was probably ten and convinced him to buy this $75 gold metal flake sparkly disgusting drum kit, you know.

I told him I would know how to play it, you know.

And yeah, and that was about it, you know.

And then I just started really listening to music and I could understand the drums far more in the guitar.

And then Rush, you know, Rush comes along and changes my world and primus and bands like that.

Or, you know, drummers like those guys kind of, you know, maybe what I am here today, I guess really.

And, you know, what I was going to say since you guys are besties, right?

And now you're bass player and drummer, how does that affect your rhythm team?

Man.

I think it really makes it effortless.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I mean, we've been, I mean, yeah, we've been best friends since we were 14.

And in and out of bands, always together.

But I think collectively, we've probably played at least 25 years together.

Wow.

Yeah, so it's just like a symbiotic relationship.

Like the back of your hand.

Exactly.

Well, that's pretty cool.

Well, let's get back to some live music from the Mad City with Barbie Lane presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song that you have for us tonight is your brand new single.

And it's called Meet You There.

Tell us about your newest release.

This is the first song that we wrote together as a collective.

It's about taking the journey together with people you care about and asking yourself the question if you're willing to go on the journey.

And it's pretty simple song, but it's about love.

It's about traveling the road.

You know, Barbie Lane is about getting in your lane and traveling the road.

Sweet.

Well, let's check it out.

This is Meet You There.

We're listening to Barbie Lane live from the Mad City on Maxing Radio.

Oh, yeah.

If you swim across the ocean, what I even care.

If you climb behind this mountain, what I even dare to meet you there.

Looking open heart and a smiling face and a warm embrace.

What I meet you there, what I meet you there.

This is a moment we've been living for.

This is the time in my mind right now.

Oh, yeah.

This is a moment we've been living for.

This is the time in my mind.

This is a moment we've been living for.

This is the time in my mind right now.

Right now.

Well, it's not real till you bust a string.

Wow, that was great.

We meet you there.

We're going to get a backup guitar here quick.

And maybe we can get a standing here to tell us, you know, we've met you the band.

Now, we know who you guys are.

But let's talk about the Barbie Lane origin story.

How did you guys come together to collaborate as Barbie Lane?

Rich Stanley.

Well, you're going to have to tell us because he's off getting another guitar.

Well, Mike has a good story too.

Like they were there before I was there.

One that Mike could probably tell you before I could like, you know, I'm running around.

You're the lead coming in the band, huh?

Well, okay.

This is my side of the story.

Yeah.

So Rich, I've known Rich for a little while.

And he would come around and I know him through a buddy of ours, Jim.

And he was like, hey, man, you know, you should come hang out with me in the mics.

You know, they're an amazing rhythm section.

They're great guys or whatnot.

And I was like, yeah, man, whatever, man.

Just being kind of passive because I was getting my hands full and other projects that I was doing at the time.

And then one day I was like, sure.

But let's do it.

He was, you know, he was real cool.

He was always being nice and just a genuine cool cab with me.

And I was like, sure, I'll open my mind to something different.

Because you just, you know, like when you're in your own little vacuum is what I would call.

I can get myself into it as a, you know, just my own journeys.

And that's my version of it.

And then I show up and meet you there happen.

Nice.

You know, that was the first thing we ever played together.

And so that's why we thought that was appropriate for us to release it as a single.

Because it was our first combination of unity as a team.

And now where did you record the, the single that we just heard is, is released now.

Where did you record these?

Do you remember the name of the studio?

The Scottish.

Well, the front of ours, the front of mine, Scott Liesman, Lee Liesman.

As I said, at Liesman, he recorded my, my last EP.

You know, we were trying to figure out a place we wanted to record.

And I was like, Scott, Scott will do us well.

And he came in for us.

And, you know, we tracked in like two days, man.

We were just totally in a vibe.

And we just knocked it out.

We knocked out like 10 songs or something like that.

Well, I can't wait to hear more.

Let's get back to live music from the man city with Barbie Lane presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song that you're having for us tonight is called The After.

Boy, that sounds spooky.

Tell us about this song quickly before you play.

Well, okay, I'm going to take a crack at this.

The After.

It's gone in a couple of different directions.

And it's still evolving.

And I think it's really what's kind of really exciting about the thing.

We had this rhythm, basic rhythm going myself and the mics.

And then a dem came in and put a nice rhythm track.

And with the clicking you're hearing, and as we're doing a good time.

And we got an evolving story, which is really awesome.

So we're getting the storytelling and the songs going.

And it's not rough draft.

I wouldn't say that.

I think it's pretty much close to finish.

But I'll let the listener decide what it's about.

It would be in your lane.

It would be in a Barbie Lane.

It was standing in the lane.

You know, and let's check it out.

This is called The After.

You're listening to Barbie Lane.

Lying from the man city.

Maxing radio.

Out of my way.

All in my lane.

Lying in my style.

All in my lane.

You're all in my head.

You're all in my mind.

I have to get away from you.

And wasting my time.

I just have to do the move.

Well, like I do.

I just don't know what to say.

But you're falling my way.

And you're blocking my lane.

You're all in my home.

Drinking my wine.

I'm here with my wife.

And wasting my time.

You kicked my dog.

And as in my shoe.

I might have to show you the back door.

I'm ready to move.

I just don't know what to do.

But life after you.

The only thing that I will say.

That you're blocking my way.

And you're falling my lane.

I just have to do.

But life after you.

The only thing I have to say.

You're falling my way.

And you're blocking my lane.

Well, you think you're really doing it here?

Leave this alone.

You know the problem that's with me, huh?

I got the motherfucker in my car.

I'm sorry about that.

I just can't help myself.

Sometimes I just want to just bust it down.

If it's take I will wrap it.

Well, you want to say it.

You want to do it no more.

I'm gonna say that one more time.

I'm gonna let you know what it's for.

But we came up.

And block it up.

And then take it.

I was gonna let you go.

Just make it shout.

Just make it go alive.

Ah.

Oh.

All in the room.

The touch in my knees.

Lost my way.

So I'm breadin' me.

I just want to do the room.

Well, like I knew.

I'm falling pain.

I can say that you're falling my way.

And you're blocking my lane.

I just don't know what to do.

I'm like I'm losing you.

I'm taking a win.

Let's go for a ride.

By the way, I can't get you on that bar.

Yeah.

Barbie Lane right here online from the Mad City.

You can catch Barbie Lane Saturday, May 30th at the Marley Union.

On campus, Marley Union is such a great place to play.

And we can keep up with the band.

BarbieLane.com.

That's B-A-R-B-Y.

Lane.com.

A damn rich Mike and Mike.

Thank you so much for coming down to play for us tonight.

I'm Max Inc. Radio.

We really appreciate it.

And you know, we only have a few minutes left.

So we got one more song and it's called free wheeling.

All I have to say is free is when you don't have to pay for nothing or do nothing.

We want to be free.

Just hit it and play that song and we'll play it right out.

All right.

Thanks, guys.

Hey, I'm free with running away from the days of life and I'm chillin'

Livein' in the face of that angel, right?

Yo, ba, ba.

I know it's goin' up in your trouble.

You need it at no good.

Then I got told I was makin' a fly.

I hope you forgot.

I'm pretty sure I'm too low.

Cause if you just start makin' me seein' a fight for life.

But I think it's time to go.

Cause I'm anyway livin'

I know it's time to go.

I'm free with running away from the days of life and I'm chillin'

Livein' in the face of that angel, right?

Yo, ba, ba.

I'm free with running away from the days of life and I'm chillin'

Livein' in the face of that angel, right?

Yo, ba, ba, ba.

Drop a new map of giving you out all your fears.

And then amazing, and then there's an interesting soul that's lookin'

Up high, my heart's a God, I'm fresh, oh there's a known

Is it just long making us feelin' at his pipe and heart?

But I'm free, can't stop and yo, I'm free with it.

I'm free with running away from the days of life and I'm chillin'

Livein' in the face of that angel, right?

I'm free with running away from the days of life and I'm chillin'

You're free with running away from the days of life and I'm chillin'

Livein' in the face of that angel, right?

Yo, ba, ba, ba, ba.

I'm free with running away from the days of life and I'm chillin'

Livein' in the face of that angel, right?

Yo, ba, ba, ba.

All right, Barbie Lane, right here.

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Our next guest is no stranger to extraterrestrials telepathy and harmonic ascension.

Melissa Cain is the founder and creator of Contact Modalities Expo,

an event that's happening May 1st through May 3rd at the Lake Lawn Resort in Delavan,

Wisconsin. Thank you, Jane. And this year's event celebrates the power of music, sound,

and vibration in features live music from Madison's own, the Earthlings.

And on the phone with us is Contact Modalities Expo Founder Melissa Cain.

Melissa, welcome to Maxine Credio.

Woo-hoo. Thanks so much. I'm so excited to be here.

Now, Melissa, you know, full disclosure, we have to know before we do the interview.

Are you telepathic?

Yes, and yes, well, you knew I was going to ask that question.

Yes.

We all are. We just don't know it yet. We have to remember.

Wow. Well, you know, tell us a little bit about Melissa Cain. I mean,

what is your backstory? You were in radio at one point, right?

I was. Yeah, I was actually in radio, not on the air, but I was in radio advertising for

three years in Chicago. So that was like my main career. My backstory is basically,

I'm born and raised in the Southwest suburbs of Chicago. Very normal life.

Went to college in Chicago at the Poly University. I had 20 years in radio advertising. I was,

you know, living the dream. No profound experiences in my life except when I get older.

But I did hear stories growing up. My grandparents lived half the year in Arizona.

So they would drive down to Chicago from Chicago to Arizona every year.

And they'd come back and tell me stories of, you know, they'd be driving down the highway,

be 12 noon, they'd be in the middle of the desert somewhere. And they'd see a cigar-shaped

cylinder about a hundred feet over their car just cruising along for an hour with them.

They were really maddening about it. But really, that's the only thing that, you know,

it kind of piqued my interest growing up. But not really, you know, not no big deal.

How close were they to Area 51 at that point?

They lived in Kingman. So I don't, is that close?

I don't know. I wouldn't know. But I'm imagining. I don't know. I'm like Area 51, you know,

cigar-shaped things flying around. Exactly. Exactly.

So anyway, oh, go ahead. No, I'm waiting here more.

Oh, okay. So, you know, as I, like I said, I was in radio advertising, having fun,

I was living in downtown Chicago, never thought a thing about UFOs, never really thought about

any of this kind of stuff at all. Got married, moved out to the suburbs, and one to head kids,

one day my husband and I and my three children, they were all really little at the time. In 2016,

it was September. We were literally just watching cable advertising, or Kate Nakia advertising,

cable, television. And one of those documentaries popped up, you know, those history channel,

or science channels, every channel, side documentaries. And it was like either NASA footage,

or some kind of space station footage, something. And I told my husband, I'm like, just stop. I wanted

to show my son who was like nine. I'm like, look, there's these things called UFOs out there.

And usually my husband, John, who used to be a raging skeptic would be, you know, like,

forget it. We're not going to waste our time watching this. So we're watching it. And something clicked.

I have no idea what it was. I went back into my den. I left the family. I'm like, oh my goodness.

What is going on in the UFO world these days? I have no idea. I've been out of touch for,

you know, 35 years, started searching, searching, searching, you know, social media, the internet.

And all of a sudden, all of this information about a Dr. Stephen Greer kept popping up.

And long story short, he had this movie called Serious. And I watched it right there on the spot,

like in my den, from my phone. And I saw in that movie that he was teaching people how to make

contact with extraterrestrials. And then he was filming all of these amazing lights in the sky

and these spacecraft zooming by. And I could not believe my eyes. I was like, oh my god, what I

wouldn't do to start to make that happen. So from that moment forward in 2016 till today,

all I've done is, you know, live, breathe, consume, read about movies, everything about extraterrestrial

contact. And now it's kind of spread out to a bunch of different stuff. Now what is a contact

modality? A contact modality is any, it's a method or an experience that people have that

pierces the veil and allows you to peer to the other side to see what our true reality is.

So for example, there's hundreds of them. UFOs is one of those experiences, near death experiences,

telepathy, psychedelics can have that kind of experience on you. Plant medicines like ayahuasca,

mediumship ghosts, seeing a cryptid like a bigfoot or something like that. Even breastwork

absolutely is a contact modality, meditation. The list goes on and on and on. But what they are,

are there ways in which people, when you, the man who coined the term contact modalities is a man

by a name of Ray Hernandez. And he realized his theory is all of these things have been studied

separately for decades. What he is proposing and what modern science is now understanding is that

all of those things that I had just mentioned are all the same. Under the umbrella of consciousness,

they're all just wearing different hats. So a contact modality is something that most of people

who have these kind of experiences, they'll communicate with some sort of nonhuman intelligence.

And that could be, you know, whatever they think, it could be an ET, some people call it God,

some people call it their higher self or some sort, you know, Jesus, you know, who knows.

But there's some kind of intelligence there. And then the other thing that's common about

these modalities is people lose sense of space or time. Either they miss time, like they lose time,

or they're taken out of their bodies, they feel like they have been in some way. And then the

other thing that happens, and this all of this happened to me as well, is that they come back with

a completely different view on not only the world we live in, but on why they're here. They all

of a sudden have meaning and oftentimes they'll be on a mission to spread this knowledge to the world

because they've learned a lot of incredible wisdom and things that they didn't already know.

Now, tell us a long answer for what a contact modality is.

Tell us about the contact modality expo. And one inspired you to create, well, we know what

inspired you to create it now. Just tell us about the expo and the theme is harmonic ascension.

Yes, yes. So the expo started last year with our first year in May of 2025. And these types of

events, similar events have been going on on the West Coast for decades. You know, West Coast,

California, very woo-woo, right? So they've been going on forever. So I dropped my research over

the past 10 years. I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, I have a little kid. I can't, you know, I run a

business. I can't, you know, just be jetting off to California every time I want to connect with

these, you know, paradigm shifting researchers in the field of consciousness. So I started hosting

little retreats at a resort that I own up in the Northwoods in the Monaco area, just very small,

you know, 20, 30 people at a time. And we've done it for eight years now. And people have left

those retreats completely changed. And what we would do is teach these contact modalities

at the retreats. So last year, I basically received a download that said, okay, bring it to the big

stage. And that's what we did. So we're doing it again at this May for the second year in row.

And what people can expect at the Expo are very experiential sessions. So, you know,

you always know that you learn by doing, right? You learn by best when you actually experience

something. You could read about something all day long and it doesn't sink in. But once you

experience something amazing, that's when it really hits home. So what we do is not only do we

have a lot of lectures happening by all of these, like Chris Bledso, who actually summons UFOs and

they come and show up. We're doing Taiwan to all of them. Yes, I'm telling you, I'm not going

to promise, but I can kind of promise that you will see something. Racker, you come.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. So we have these real great sessions. But as far as harmonic ascension

goes, sound and frequency and music have very therapeutic and healing effects on people in many

different ways. So we have the earthlings playing on Saturday night who are huge fans of what we do.

I actually met them last year at our event. They were just ticket holders. Yeah, Elliott came up

and he's like, hello. No, I'm Elliott. Yeah, exactly. So we talked afterwards. I'm like, oh my God.

I mean, when he was telling me that he is interested in what we do, I could not believe it.

He's like immersed. All their songs, everything has to do with the subject matter.

All of that, I couldn't believe it. That's true. Yeah, absolutely. So they are there to just really

raise our vibration because there's nothing more therapeutic and healing than really just

connecting with one another and just having a good old fashioned time. I mean, how about it, Racker?

That's true. Look in the day, live music. It's where it's at. It shows from the 80s.

That's perfect. Well, you know, now I bet you what a lot of our listeners are wondering,

is there any way to get a discount off the ticket price? Absolutely. So you go to our website,

which is contactmodalitiesxpo.com. It'll have all the information that you need there as far as

what's happening, the daily schedule, and how you can participate. If you use the promo code max

ink at checkout, you'll get a 10% discount off any of the entry tickets. Wow.

M-A-X-I-N-K, you use that code. Wow, that's pretty cool for 10% off.

Yep, exactly. Exactly. And there's single day tickets, weekend tickets, and three day passes,

and then all kinds of other goodies. Now, give us the details of the event again

and your website so we can go and reserve our tickets. Okay, sure. It's contactmodalitiesxpo.xpo.

It's at Lake Lawn Resort in Delivan, Wisconsin, and you can get tickets and all the information if

you go to contactmodalitiesxpo.com. It's May 1st through 3rd, that's a Friday through Sunday,

and we have stuff going on all day, each and every day. So if you check out what's going on,

see what floats your boat, and pick the day that works for you or days that work for you.

That's right, and go hang out with the earthlings and catch their set on Saturday night. That is so

fun. Melissa, thank you so much for coming on the radio tonight and chatting with us about

contactmodalities. We really appreciate it. Thank you guys so much. We'll talk soon.

Yeah, we'll get you on one more time before the event and see and get some updates.

Awesome. All right, thank you so much. You know what we're going to listen to now?

Let's hear a little bit of earthlings. The earthlings have a brand new song out right now,

and they're just sending it into us. It's called Carriot. You're listening to Maxing Gradio. We are local

music.

You found Wisconsin's local music authority. This is MagSync Radio. We are local music.

In Madison, the art of tattooing has a long and vibrant history and few studios have contributed

to that culture as consistently as Ultimate Arts tattoo. Founded in 1988, the shop is known for

original artwork on world-winning artists and a reputation that attracts clients from across

the country, even internationally. It's Madison's best place in town to get poked,

and tonight, founder and an award-winning tattoo artist, Stripe, joins us in the studio.

Stripe, welcome to MagSync Radio. Hello, hello, how are you?

Good, man. Good to see you here again. So I got to throw one correction for you. I'm not actually

the founder. You're not the founder? I believe I'm the third owner. You're the third owner.

Yeah, the studio started back in like 1998 or 1999. I was still in high school back then.

I didn't get into Ultimate Arts until 1994. Oh, wow. And then I worked up to the manager,

and then I worked up to buy in the place I'm sick of this. Wow, that's pretty cool though.

I mean, honestly, I didn't know all that much history. I found on the internet that it started

in 1988. Yes, that was a husband or wife were running it at one time, and then it just kind of

bounced up to me. Wow, where was that location? I think the first location was right by East High School,

very short time. And then after that, it was on Antwood Avenue. Oh, I can't remember the name of

the bar that's there right now, but I think it's the harmony. Oh, yeah. So I could have for the

harmony is where the original main Ultimate Arts was for a few years. But I actually remember that

now. I didn't realize that that was in Ultimate Arts. Yeah. Well, you know, at your home,

your fur baby doesn't have any fur. Oh, I got one of them. Oh, you do. But I know that you have one

that is just skinned, right? Yeah, I got a, you were doing some research. Yeah, I got a

black and white Argentine Tagu, which oddly doesn't have scales. Really? It feels like leather

with native beads on it. And it's black. It's black and whites. It's main color. But then as the

the orchids, it kind of changed their gorgeous. And she's about, you know, almost four feet long.

Wow. She's a good patch. They call them the puppies of lizards. You'll sit on your lap. It'll

hang out. It just wanders the house from time to time. And it's got big enclosure that it hangs

out there. But it's a, it's a pretty fun. How big is your enclosure? About the size of two

refrigerators. Wow. It's pretty big. Oh, my goodness. What is that kind of a thing to eat?

rodents. It's favorite eggs. It likes a medium to soft boiled egg. It makes it very fruity.

Straight before you get to Ultimate Arts again. Tell us a bit of your backstory. I mean,

how did you get started as a tattoo artist? Oh, a tattooing story was a little funny. I was a chef.

I went to cooking school and art school at the same time. Okay. And my goal was I wanted to do

food art. I wanted to do ice sculptures, wedding cakes. I wanted to do a, like photographs that

were in gourmet magazine or in advertising. So I wanted to prep those gorgeous plates and do

these neat things. Unfortunately, I was back in the early 90s. I really couldn't find a job

doing it. So the tattoo thing came up. But I wasn't really big into tattoos. But I saw where

something was happening. I looked at this tattoo magazine and I was like, oh, this is like real art.

There's these people, especially down in the Chicago area that were doing these really nice

actual more like paintings than they weren't yet to is that the days of the old traditional

sailor theory were going to die. And they were like painters. It's wonderful graphic artists doing

great work. And I'm like, oh, I could be in the beginning of this. And so wow. With the

limited art school experience that I had and I charged into it head first. And I got to ride

this wave of artwork blowing up. Wow. And it was really cool. I can't complain about that

projection. But now, what was your, what was your parents role in kind of your artistic and your

food? Were they supportive of you being artists? Slightly. Also, then when it came to tattooing,

they were like, find a real job. They weren't dead into it. But my dad owned an advertising

art studio. So they did the pre-press preparation for stuff. So I grew up sitting on light tables

and using razor blades to cut colors out and playing with CMYK combinations and doing color

separation. And yeah, pre-press. There was no scanners. So they did all that stuff by hand.

And I sat there with all these people. It had graphic arts degrees doing this tedious

and not in this stuff. So I knew I didn't want to be in that part of the artwork. So that

definitely taught me that much. What were you artistic as a kid then? Yeah, I drew most of my life.

There's just kind of always the thing. I was the doodler in class that got yelled at all the time.

What my comprehension while doodling was better than if I wasn't. So they let me.

Oh, that's funny. That's true. And you're in the motorcycles. Are these?

Oh, yeah. I used to. No, I got I got a BMW. I'm boozy. Oh, it's pretty cool.

Yeah, I got off the Harley thing probably five years ago or so. I just got sick of fixing it.

And it was a pain in the butt. And I didn't like the world that surrounded it. And I got a very fast,

very large BMW. For a whole lot less than it would have hardly. Well, that's very cool.

Well, now tell us about Ultimate Art statue. And where you were at. And you've got a new location.

And tell us about, you know, why you moved. Well, start the story. I'll go back to

2000. That's about when I bought out the former owner. And I wound up almost immediately

being evicted from the place we're at. Weird circumstances. Goofy. So I found this new place,

which is the one you've been to, which is that little place over at. Yeah. And we moved in there.

We're doing about 24 years. We were rocking along. It's really tiny in a horrible parking lot.

Today's full size pickup trucks couldn't fit in there. It was kind of bad. But we'd, you know,

rocked along pretty good. You know, lots of artists, lots of people. And then we ran the big toy drive

every year. Tats for Tots. We're bringing a thousand people in one shot, like just in a matter of,

you know, four hours we could have almost 1,500 people roll through that. Wow. And we did a lot

of crazy stuff. But then city of Madison's, why is wisdom decided they prefer apartment complexes

over in that area. And so they pushed for that. And I got a year. They gave me years. Notice

that here, this is what we're doing. Yep. And I went past it on the way here. It's gone. Yeah,

yeah. Yeah. You know, it's demolished. And so I went out about a six month search. Then I found

this great landlord that I absolutely, but great to us. And we found this good building.

Took forever for the city to let us move in there. I think we're going to move in in July. But then

it took all the way till November to actually finally get the city's okay. Oh, bureaucracy is not

fun. Where is the new location? And we are now on 2017 South Stoughton Road, which is right by

farm and fleet. It's across the street a little bit towards the north from there. Sure. Yeah,

it's really neat. It's about double the size. Huge parking lot pickup trucks can actually park

there now. Yeah. Which is what everyone's complaint was. So we got you covered. And we ran

the first toy drive out there this year. And it was great because we have over 100 parking stalls.

Wow. Yeah. And so many people through so fast. And we're running over a thousand people

through in those few hours. And it was pretty spectacular. That was the three weeks after we opened.

How many artists do you have doing tattoos in your current location? So right now,

there's four of us here full time. One guy who's just working his way in and I have an apprentice

to. And then we have a assistant that works there. And I've been interviewing people.

It would probably get in them. Might have up to about seven over the next couple of few.

Wow. That's it's been growing and it's getting busy. And we're doing really cool stuff in this

large space that's really well lit and it's bright and fun. And we're having a good time.

Now you just mentioned twice for tats. And Ultimate Arts has always been involved with community

events over the years. Yeah. You know, talk about some of your successes and your belief in

community engagement. Absolutely. One of the most important things I think any individual

business can do. If you don't give back, you're taking money out of your community. And if you

don't put it back in, you're not a good person. You're not a good business. So, you know,

I guess some people do tie things of 10%. I'm going to do more than that. I'm going to make sure

the people I buy jackets for homeless. We do just regular give-outs for that. I've collected

a lot of money for cancers. Individuals with cancer. Individuals with just about any problem. We

did a mental health awareness fundraiser. We helped with a couple weeks ago. We helped out by

donating to a guy who's bringing his daughter home from India and just needed the funds to get

them back. And so it says many things we possibly can to keep giving back to the community. Some

of them will be our clients that we're helping. Some of them are just generically who needs help.

We're going to be there for it. Wow. And if kids that are local need toys, man, I like toys.

I like them a lot. You've seen my garage. Oh, yes. Yes. But if you don't, I just say shame on you

for putting it all at your own pocket and not helping your community grow. Wow. That's incredible.

I really love that. How can we keep up with Ultimate Nerds Online? We are literally everywhere.

We got UltimateArtsTN2.com. We got a TikTok page. Instagram page, Facebook page, Twitter page,

or X or whatever you call it. There's a social media page. We're probably on there. I think the

only thing I don't have would be a Pinterest page. That's because I lost my login. Otherwise,

I'd be everywhere. Nice. Is there anything we missed about Ultimate Nerds? Got any specials

or anything coming up or anything you want to announce events? I don't know. We never do specials.

But we have thought of them. We just never get a drone to it. It's a we thought about it special.

Head into the new location. Yeah. Then we get so busy. It's fun. I love being busy.

Well, that's awesome. I can't wait to go over to the new shop and park my big pickup truck

in your brand new lot and bring some Star Wars toys. Yes. You know I'm like that.

Strike, thank you so much for coming down to the studio to chat with us tonight. I'm Max

Ingridio. We really appreciate it. Hey, love you guys. I listen every week and I love Madison

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