Katie Scullin is Live from the Madcity on Max Ink Radio

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Katie Scullin is Live from the Madcity on Max Ink Radio

Max Ink Radio · Sat Jan 10, 2026

shop local eat local listen local this is maxing radio we are local music welcome back to maxing

radio everybody i am rocker here with Jane hello we are live from the man city part one in 2009

a young singer was breaking into the Madison music scene after winning the emerging artist

series for summer fest with her band rivalry five years later she would win the project m competition

and now a winner of multiple Madison area music association awards caddy scullin is set to

release her newest song antidote along with a video this week tonight caddy scullin is in the studio

along with dame demonia on guitar to perform and chat with us about everything caddy scullin

caddy welcome back to maxing radio thank you thank you so much for having me it's so good to be here

well you know i'm not kidding welcome back because this is i think your fifth live appearance on

maxing radio and you have been at all three of our studios going back to 2019 even when it was called

the devil's layer oh yeah back in the day yeah we've been been here a few times it's super fun

oh well welcome back again caddy you started out in music very young joining rivalry at a young age

talk about how you got started in music and leading into joining your first band

well my brother and i started writing music together back in college i think it was

maybe two thousand six and my dad was like you guys you got to call yourself sibling rivalry because

we were this kind of dynamic duo he was super great at guitar and i was singing and we were collaborating

and uh we ended up forming a band later on after my parents had a uh anniversary party they hired a

band and that band invited us to come out to the barn uh Tim Schmidt and glassy d on bass and we

formed rivalry wow that that's pretty cool formed in a barn i love that how did you start

playing guitar so you started singing first yeah and then picked up guitar later on yeah i've always

been uh involved in music ever since i was a kid my my brother got a guitar i think when he was

11 and just watching him kind of thrive in it was really inspiring to me and so he started

teaching me everything that he knew and yeah the rest is history now what's what's your parents

role what role did they play in your musical upbringing well they bought us a uh haunted piano

haunted piano it was a haunted piano that's what they said and i don't know if that was true or not

or if it was just a way to get us curious about the piano but they they always brought us to like

shows we went and saw Kenny G and um we saw the Phantom of the Opera and different Broadway musicals

so it's always been you know something that we loved as a family and just being musical

oh what's your brother doing these days is he still playing he he's an IT guy he's an IT guy

he's an IT guy yeah he still plays though he uh he's in a band called ultra boy picnic okay they

recover band uh more less than uh the Fort Ackinson area but they're awesome Katie left rivalry

to pursue your music career as an individual artist what challenges did you face striking out on

um i think i just kind of decided that you know i wanted to i wanted to go a different direction

i wanted to write music and um more or less like just expand a bit and so i you know i did rivalry for

a while and my brother and i kind of decided that you know he was getting married and wanted to start

a family and um and i also was having my son Mason and so just decided you know i'm gonna go solo

for now and see what i can do i did starpersons which is like a hip-hop group and i've done you know

various uh projects you know singing backup vocals for different bands and whatnot but you know

being a songwriter has Katie Scullin was kind of just the direction i took and i stuck with it so

well how did you overcome obstacles like booking self-management you know what has been your biggest

success my biggest success oh being a mom i think that's my biggest success um but yeah i mean

it's challenging for sure being an independent artist figuring out you know the music business and

booking and management and self-promotion and all of those things there's a lot a lot that

goes into it you know you gotta figure out the the website and the marketing and and then the song

writing and and all of that so let's get to live music from the man city with Katie Scullin and

Dane D'Amanya presented by the Aaron Weber group Katie the first song that you have for us tonight

it's called Whitney and it's from your past catalog tell us about Whitney before you play

so Whitney it was a song that i wrote when i decided i was gonna pursue music more seriously um

i was playing piano in my living room and i had this little keyboard that my dad had bought for me

for Christmas and hit the like pre-recorded drum beats that those old you know Yamaha's would have

and it was like it was super cheesy but it like reminded me of a pop song by like Whitney Houston

or something and so um i just decided to call it Whitney and then i never changed the title because

i i thought about how music has helped me in various scenarios through life where i feel like a song

just speaks to my soul and it helps me through you know different difficult situations and so

i wanted to keep the song called Whitney you know maybe there's a Whitney out there who was like oh my

god this is my song um yeah and just a note to Whitney Houston because she's freaking awesome so

awesome well let's check it out this song is called Whitney you're listening to live from the man city

with Katie's going

my heart just wants to fly feel the wind penny my wings

elevated breathe it in looking down on all that's been

holding me there for so long tied like laces through the holes in my shoes come away

carrying me to a bed play a a a a a a a it took a while to find that door

just step outside and feel the sun shining down will heaven knows that i tried and i tried

and i tried somehow yeah yeah yeah

hold your head up high

don't give a try

in

i never wanted you to see peace on me fall down to my knees so far below with those dark

faces taking the best of me it feels my heart it feels my soul you stood by me

feel my wind in roads and my love we will take an aeroplane do i play a a a

hold your head up high

oh

don't give up trying

hold your head up high

oh

spread your wings and fly

oh

hold your head up high

oh

spread your wings and fly

fly

hold your head up high

spread your wings and fly

fly

fly

you

awesome Katie Scullin live from the mad city on maxing radio that was Whitney

oh that's an awesome moment to Whitney thank you i love it uh i have been watching the

Taylor Swift documentary series end of an era and i am impressed by her drive to control

music and art at every level and Katie you've also taken control of your music and art and

become a band leader in your own right talk about that role and the bond that you create with

your band to bring your vision and music to the stage well i appreciate the uh comparison i

you know Taylor Swift is she's phenomenal and like we were talking earlier she really takes care

of her crew and and she's had a tough journey herself you know trying to take back control and

and i think i struggled with that myself just kind of knowing you know the industry and how things

have played out in the past for other artists who maybe weren't as fortunate um

being able to get back their catalog of music and and things that they worked so hard for and

that really are a piece of their heart and their soul um so you know that's definitely been a part

of my journey as well and i i love what i do and i'm by no means at a Taylor Swift level i look

up to you know the things that she's done it's it's phenomenal and i think it's just great to

you know hear the stories about she takes care of her crew and and all of that and i you know i

try my best it's uh you know we're in a small community here in Madison but there's a lot of

opportunity at the same time and yeah well you've you've got a great band tell us about the people

in your band i do have a phenomenal band well first we've got Dane over here well we'll be talking

in a in a moment but uh tell me about your the live band that you play with right now

yeah so while it's been my brother primarily for the longest time and he plays with me from time

to time as you know as his schedule allows uh Jacob bears been my base player for many many years

Scott chase on um and i've also on drums on drums yep yep he's he's a phenomenal drummer yes um

and i've just recently started playing with ivy McLaughlin on keys and uh mic sissario has been

playing percussion so yeah i have a i'm lucky i really am i'm blessed with great artists how do

you balance your music career in being a mom you know i i have no idea i don't really sleep um

no and i have a full-time job too i work in media as well on doing a video production but

i over the last i don't know five years or so i've i've decided to dedicate one night a week

to music to continue my craft i'm you know first and foremost i'm a mom and then i've got my job where

i'm you know doing video production and whatnot but i have had to you know carve out time to

continue to do music and perform as often as possible and try to play out as much as i can too so

yeah it's a balance it's a balancing act well tell us about your son i mean is he interested in

music because you know the first time we met him right was right here on the radio yeah yeah he

he's so sweet he's uh he plays saxophone right now he's playing saxophone in the

okay in the band yeah i was a sax player too you all that's off seven years i love it and i

i see secretly hope that he you know steps up on stage and plays careless whisper with us

that's on point um yeah no he's great he and he just picked up the guitar i you know he took

drum lessons and he's taking guitar lessons a little bit and those kind of went away but he just

recently picked up the guitar um which made me super happy so but i think saxophone he's he's

pretty good at it so wow and how did he get into saxophone was that something there's a school

yeah or did he just kind of pick that up yeah that was his choice in band he wanted to try saxophone

so yeah it is a kind of an easy instrument to pick up in place is it i understand yeah i do yeah oh boy

that what that one seemed really hard to me yeah i would pick something easier like drums right

there you go i did trumpet you only have three buttons on the trumpet so how hard can that be only

three exactly but you have five fingers it just doesn't make sense uh well let's get back to

live music from the man city with Katie Scullin presented by the Aaron Weber group the next song

that you have for us tonight it's called endless summer and the older you get the shorter the summer

is tell us about endless summer um well this is a great tie-in to my son so we took a vacation

i don't know maybe three summers ago um in the north woods of Wisconsin and um it was just pretty

it was pretty magical seeing all of my nieces and nephews playing in the water and having so

much fun and it just kind of brought me back to my childhood of being on vacation and just sort of

that that freedom um so we ended up putting together this treasure hunt for the kids um and they

ended up finding this map in the mailbox and you know there was a missing piece on the map and they

had to go through all these different obstacles to to find the the pieces to you know find the buried

treasure and they ended up having to like uh cross the water to an island um cross the lake to an

island my dad my dad dreamed this whole thing up but it was and it's all videotaped i have a

documentary but it was like pure chaos in the in the moment right because they were all super excited

they had no idea what was going on um they ended up having like slay a dragon and then they ended

up getting the treasure and you know like they're they're all excited to get like these you know

this jewelry and whatnot that was in the buried treasure and for me the like the true treasure of

it was just seen the excitement and the smile on their faces and so I I really wanted to capture

that essence in a song um so this is endless summer all right let's check it out endless summer

Katie's going live from the mad city on maxing radio

oh

holding my breath hey the water i'm diving in open my eyes yellow rays of light flip till my head

is a cloud floating above me soaring dragon flies ooh this endless summer i keep diving

in treasures of gold under towering trees call it a masterpiece captured in photographic

memories i keep diving in wish i could fly but i loved to swim only a moment wrapped in the arms

of my love i can dive in this endless summer dive in come out from under dive in this endless

summer dive in

sunsets that magnify skies on the water line drinking it up till we're feeling high

laughter that echoes the burning of embers are sparkling like five flies ooh this endless summer

i keep diving in treasures of gold a far away kind call it a masterpiece captured in all of the magic

of sunrise i keep diving in wish i could fly but i loved to swim only a moment wrapped in the arms

of my love i can dive in this endless summer dive in come out from under dive in this endless

summer dive in

wow awesome endless summer dive brings me back to childhood thank you

you're listening to live from the mad city right here with Katie scullin i'm rocker here with

Jane Katie tonight you have brought dane to mania on guitar and he plays on your new album give

the guitar is some tell us about dane dane is awesome he's waiting for you have been a rock in my

life now dane is so wonderful i would say i think you are one of the best guitar players in

Madison and just love love having you here you've added so much to my songwriting and performance

it's we we have a lot of fun together so all dane you are a veteran of the Madison music scene here

tell us about your backstory mean how did you get started playing music oh man um so since i was a

kid i remember there's probably pictures of me when i was like four years old holding a guitar that

was bigger than me you could see like my head and my feet coming out of the side of it uh my dad

was a musician so we would have band practices at our house or i would go with them to the drummer's

house or whatever and i was at every gig every show every practice and i loved it i just wanted to

be in the middle of it um and so he had been through in different bands and i was 14 years old and

he came home one day he's just like hey you want to be our lead guitar player and i said i have it

like i said before i thought he was kidding and uh he wasn't so wow yeah so i started playing

the clubs at 14 with my dad all the all members of his band and it just sort of

when i'm from there i moved to Madison in 99 uh i started my first band here as a rock band

back in the day and played with many musicians what band was that uh it's called 20 well actually the

first band i started was called luster luster yeah and then it went uh 20 reasons taken we were

rock band oh sure yeah and then uh just a bunch of other bands i went through and then

um a few years back i went on tour uh with a guy named Derek Jones we threw the United States

played all it everywhere um but i also have two kids and it was getting kind of hard they were coming

up with me and uh logistically was rock every and well they were and they loved it they loved it

but like at the same time uh the the whole band was from um southern indiana so for me to get down

there oh boy yeah i had to get there anywhere south i had to get down there and then anywhere north

they would come up here and get me and hit the road um so we got to do a lot of cool stuff it was

it was a blast um but it got to be a lot so how'd you run into Katie oh man uh well we we go

way back uh family friends uh we've known each other for a long time uh we've been playing together

for what nine nine years something like that uh like 2016 or 2017 uh she needed a guitar player for

brought fast and gave me what a month oh my god but i was so impressed like he he took my entire

catalog and you learned it note for note within a month yeah yeah which you probably didn't even spend

you know he's just that good did you have perfect pitch or something i don't know but i just

that good now i just grew up that's how i learned music i remember my dad shot me in a room one day

he's like here it was Georgia satellites um keep your hands yourself yeah he was learning this song

he came back in 15 minutes and he goes how you're doing i had the whole song down and i just learned

by ear from then on i tried to read music and i just yeah for me and so yeah i just yeah i just

listened to it and try to learn it very cool well let's get back to live music from the mad city with

Katie Scullin presented by the Aaron Weber group the next song that you have for us tonight it's

called enough and uh it has not been released tell us about your new song oh what do i say about

this one oh you can't say enough oh man you know this is uh kind of this this song happened i think

it was tail end of covid maybe it was during covid and i was pretty uh i don't know sad about

seeing like the the true condition of the human heart through social media and just the fighting

and and whatnot and i was going through some things in my own world in my own life and i felt like

i was i was frustrated that like doing the right thing didn't seem to be enough and um i was

struggling with that because we're taught to you know lead by example and you know pray for your

enemies and and pray for the people that persecute you and and all of that and so this was kind of

kind of a prayer in itself um just wondering where god was and then also being like well you know

i guess i don't blame him if he left because we're all being really crappy to each other at the same time

so this is just kind of a prayer like hey you know i'm here i'm trying you know come back help me i

need you so uh this is enough all right well let's check it out this is enough you're listening to

maxing radio live from the mad city with katie scullin

um

sometimes i wonder where you are are you in some other galaxy you've wondered far beyond the stars

gave what you could be no one here to see the two of this growing tired of this world

and all i'm saying is it's so vile i fake this smile

the miles i've traveled days that have gone by is it nothing worth it here this time

um

i wonder do they care to know what's further out there than the i can see lost amidst a one man show

isolation is the enemy i'm calling desperate to connect and all i'm saying is i've been trying

to feel fine if i keep searching for you love would i ever feel like i him enough in it i

reach over in a bird with this much speed enough

um

sometimes i have to close my eyes and imagine things i wish i could see and feel you there by my side

lived in a way every last casual teen if i cried out loud hard enough i'm just waiting

which you might swing it on by if i keep searching for you love would i ever feel like i him enough in it i sing

from the depths of my lungs with this much speed enough

um

Katie Scullin live from the mad city on maxing radio will be right back after this

you found Wisconsin's local music authority this is maxing radio we are local music

welcome back to maxing radio my name is rocker here with jane we are live from the mad city

with katie scullin katie you work teaching and producing as well as music and video production tell

us of your life outside of being a mom and music well uh yes i do a lot in the video production world

now which has been super fun um producing and working on a lot of different 30 second commercial

15 second commercials uh working in tourism with discover Wisconsin uh visit lake janeva a lot of

different things so that's been super fun just kind of like you know get into that side of

of production as well as um producing music as well and yet i teach one night a week i teach uh

guitar songwriting and i've been doing a little bit of artist development with some of my students

which is super rewarding to like help them you know like people helped me when i was just getting

started in music so yeah so that's great you're a mentor to a few younger musicians then

yeah yeah i'm trying yeah your eggs are in all the baskets great job thank you

katie you have new songs and videos coming out tell us about recording and producing

for your own album yeah so um this next project that i've been working on i've been recording in

my hometown at lunar lava audio which has been really really fun it's um you know being being

home and close to mom and dad i i over the summer was going there i'm Tuesday nights like we had talked

about earlier um i one night a week and um it's it's been fun i go to the studio i record and then

i go see mom and dad and have dinner and head on home so and i am uh i'm putting a music video out

as well too so i've got a new song coming out um we're doing a premiere party on january

talking about that in just a minute yeah so tell us about the new album that you're producing

it itself produced you said yes lunar lava yep is it going to be coming on on vinyl oh i wish i don't

know yet so i've been you know as an independent artist um putting songs out as often as i possibly

can yeah um so it's been more single song releases and i hope you know as as the songs come out

then once i have my catalog i can put out a full-length album with all of those single songs

and if i can do vinyl i absolutely want to do vinyl i want to go back old school you know i love

that you we can stream music all over the world but there's also some downfalls to streaming and

there's yeah which we're all figuring out the hard way um yeah vinyl is in again that i'm uh

surprised that's what i've heard i need to get myself a record player oh yes and you need to get

some vinyl because uh i want to play it on vinyl right yeah uh is this a new album is is self-produced

are you are you working with a producer yep um so i'm producing it and working with uh

Jeff Peterson uh yeah lunar lava so yeah well let's get back to live music from the man city with

Katie Scullin presented by the Aaron Weber group the next song you have for us tonight is another

premiere song yet to be released and it's called parade is this song a noun or a verb

that's a good question forget how this song goes yeah there it is okay

five years since you left it all what you waiting on what you waiting on ten years since you trip

back there you were hanging on barely hanging on speak out the unfolding of what you

waiting on what you waiting on now tell me what you're gonna do no one ever day is gone day is gone

yeah it's gone

oh

dance around this town as it comes pouring down raining on my parade

fade in the yesterday find my foot in again growing a thicker skin

rain down on my parade fade in the yesterday

oh

sometimes they don't care to see any true friends

few between deep down it's a shot in the dark all the time it takes behind the scenes

one day you could wake up knowing it's all about to give it's overflowing

where were you heading along to answer out this town as it comes pouring down raining on my parade

fade in the yesterday find my foot in again growing a thicker skin

rain down on my parade fade in the yesterday

dance around this town as it comes pouring down raining on my parade fade in the yesterday find my

foot in again growing a thicker skin rain down on my parade fade in the yesterday

parade

parade Katie Scullin live from the mad city on maxing radio killer guitar solo on that yeah wow

that was really good I like this stuff uh you know let's talk about Copa uh it stands for

community organizers promoting the arts and before we talk about your listening party that

you're hosting there what is Copa Copa community organization promoting the arts you know

it is the visionary behind it is Dale sticker he has toured with Elton John for the last I think

32 34 years yes piano man right yes that is as his piano attack um and he he's just been you

know such a blessing in in my life and in so many other people's lives just promoting the

arts and and giving artists a like resource to develop and craft their music and that's what

Copa is all about it is a space for creative people not even just musicians people that are

interested in lighting and uh audio and dance and performance art there's uh there's uh people

that are just you know making making art in all forms uh whether it's painting or clay or or

whatever so it's it's a space and um it's it's wonderful I'm I feel very honored and blessed to

to make music and make art and and be able to utilize that space uh Katie do you know uh Lola

like I'm pretty sure she was a show girl at the Copa Lola yeah I didn't mean her there but yeah

maybe maybe she's there on Wednesday night well now they have uh they have open jams there

yes they do I know they have an open jam there and I know that uh Dale sticker's main mission is to

actually build a campus over there yes now we're talking that's index road which is just south of

the belt line off of fish atry yep yep and he plans to have just a giant facility there for

for everything that you said but brand new he really wants to bring it in there yep and so it's

great you could go out to to your advantage Copa and kind of check it out if you want to get more

information on Copa go to copa madison.org uh what made you choose Copa for the venue for your

listening party um well I think just in getting to know Dale over the years and and seeing his

mission and and how he's been you know just so supportive like I don't know he's been a wonderful

mentor to me throughout my my journey um and it's very you know it's underground at this point

right like they're still trying to raise the funds and we don't even know what it is right yeah nobody

knows that it's there I mean except for the musicians now are like oh there's an industry night

oh there's jazz night oh there's there's a cinema showcase like there's just so many things

that are happening there um and it feels it feels great to just like be able to be in community

with each other because that's really what it takes it's an ecosystem right as an artist we

need producers and we need lighting tax and and videographers and um directors and screenwriters

they need musicians for their films and all of that so creating this ecosystem is just like

that makes sense you know it does well let's get back to live music from the man city with

Katie Scullin presented by the Aaron Weber group the next song that you have for us tonight

is called unfailing tell us about this song oh goodness you know sometimes i'm like what do i say

do i keep it vague um i think unfailing was just kind of realizing that my life was being turned

in a different direction and um i wasn't in control right like i we it's up to the universe

it's up to god and sometimes we want things to happen the way that we want them to and that

doesn't always happen in you you go through this refining process in life um and so you know

this is this is unfailing and and that's all i got for all right well let's hear it unfailing

Katie Scullin live from the mad city on maxing radio

did you know that a heart made of gold isn't failing

someone like you could melt me down it's true love the light i'm chasing

and this fire is burning deep in me and got me wishing it was you me but you live in another town

and i'm happy we're going for now

did you know that i love the open road i am seeing

who

and the wind to my seals to sing the songs i am playing

who

and i know

they wouldn't for me

and i prayed the god would turn the key

but you live in another town

i'm glad we're going for now

and

is this the island beneath the setting sun i was seeing

is it trust it feels my lungs with the rain breathing

and i know i know that you are meant for me and i prayed the god would turn the key

would you live in another town

i'm glad we're going for now

you

Thank you. Wow. Unfailing. That's a pretty incredible song. We're here live from the

Mad City on Maxing Radio. I'm rocker here with Jane and Katie Sculling, Katie Coping.

Being a musician is full of problems. How do I get to the gig on time? Did I bring the

cartooner getting porn on during a summer show? How do you cope? How do you cope? How do you cope?

You know, you just get through it. There's been a lot of getting this laughing over there.

There's been a lot of gigs where I've like gotten four hours away and been like,

okay, I don't even have a cable or I don't have a microphone or I don't have the main component

to my PA system. Like there's so many things to remember. Or you don't dress correctly, right?

You think that it's going to be warmer and it's freezing cold or vice versa.

I'm still wearing my clogs. Yeah, you're sweating your butt off and all of that. Or you

know, you get rained out. That can be a hard thing, especially as an independent artist.

Yeah, you just, you live and you learn not to put all your eggs in one basket. You get a little

bit more strategic as you go. So remain calm. Yes, remain calm. Well, you know, I saw that first hand

Katie, your band played for us just up the street here on State Street for a make music Madison.

And boy, it rained that day, didn't it? It rained. It rained on part of your set, but I was just

amazed. It didn't faze you at all. And your band just like when just kept on going. We wanted to

play so bad. We covered everything in tarps. And you know, people were having fun though. At least

it was summer and somewhat warm. But yeah, we made it through. Wow. That was, it was a lot of fun.

January 16th, you are hosting your music video premiere party at Copa. And there's a lot going on.

Tell us about the party and the premiere of your new video. Yeah. So I have a new song coming out

called antidote. And I've been working on the song for a long time. I just looked back in my

voice, my nose. And I started writing it in 2021 on my bedroom floor. And it just like,

you're writing the lyrics on the floor. Yeah. I don't know. I was probably crying.

No. And it just kept coming back to me. And I started doing some like pre-production in my

my bedroom studio. And I recorded a version of it up north. That was this sort of like slow,

slow, I don't know, moody version of it. And then I finally decided in the last year, year and

a half that I wanted to produce it with a band. And Dean is on it. And Jeff Peterson,

who's been helping me produce it as well, is playing drums. And we've got Dan Mcdonald on

the bass and who else. I think my brother did some swells on it. So yeah. And then just as the song

was getting finished, I got a message in my DMs from a good friend of mine who's done two music

videos. Bob Tronson, he owns Clouds North films here in Madison. And he's like, hey, you know,

do you have anything ready to go? And I'm like, I just so happened to have gotten the latest mix

on this song. Let's do it. So we filmed a music video in November. And I'm really excited about it.

And I was like, you know what? Like there's so many people involved in bringing a song to life

that I just really want to celebrate all of the people that helped me get there. And so

they're on a party. And we're going to have a premiere. And I even hear you might be able to get

dinner. And there are. Yeah. So we are going to leave it open until Tuesday evening. If you want

a dinner plate option, we are going to cater in forage kitchen and have some other great options as

well. So get your tickets now. Cocktail cocktail attire. Yes. It is cocktail. I say we're going

all out. It's going to be fun. Wow. That sounds like a lot of them. Dean just got the memo. He's

a wife. He doesn't have dress up. He says, he's like, wait, I didn't hear that.

Yeah. I mean, why not? That's fun. Where do we get tickets? You can either go to katieschooling.com.

You can go to the Copa website. My Facebook. I've got a bunch of posts and that's copa madison.org.

Correct. Okay. That's it. This is on buddy. How can we keep up with your live music schedule new

song releases and everything? Well, you can check out my website katieschooling.com. I also have a

Patreon, which has been such a wonderful platform for me to be able to sustain as an independent

music artist. You can either join for free or you can get even more exclusive behind the scenes

access by becoming a patron at five ten or twenty five dollars. Yeah. I've got all my shows listed

on my website and yeah, if you want to see behind the scenes, how I do it all, check out my Patreon.

Very cool. Katie, thank you so much for coming down to the studio tonight and playing for us and

talking to us. We really appreciate it. Well, thank you for having me. You guys have been so supportive

over the years. I'm blessed to be here. So thank you. You have one more song for us tonight.

And it's the premiere of the new song you were just talking about antidote. It features

Dane here on guitar. What is the poisonous cause for the antidote? Well, I knew I was going to

be asked that question. I think the song is generally about navigating unclear situations in life.

We sometimes get clouded in relationships that we're in and we kind of lose sight of who we are

as individuals and like our sole purpose in life. And so the antidote for me was navigating

that being able to put words to different scenarios and things that I was going through and

being able to sort of take back my sense of self and autonomy, which we all deserve. And so I think

art is the antidote to people's pain. And I think knowledge is also the antidote to people's fear.

But it's definitely up for interpretation. All right. Well, let's check it out. This is antidote

Katie's going live from the Man City at Maxing Radio.

No longer need to hide away.

I came here to finish what I made.

Or that shit driving me crazy.

Ya come in clear no longer.

Hey.

I'm under the waste that you project.

Eyes to the mirror again, say what I will, and you deflect.

Is the sky blue as it rains?

You really do set the expectations.

And I've got to sing my proclamation.

I finally an adult.

I've run in circles.

I was walking a tight rope to find a high road.

Who is it?

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Every step I take, every truth, I reclaim one foot and eight times, taking back what's mine.

My light.

So someone told you who I am, they put that idea in your head.

Now you can live with this instead, even no idea just where I've been.

I found the antidote of running in circles.

I was walking a tight rope to find a high road.

Who is it?

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Hey say.

Wow.

And it's beautiful.

Thank you.

Katie's going live from the Mad City on Maxing Radio.

Send thanks so much, Katie.

We are going to be right back with the Sean Michael

Dargen Trio for a double dip from live from the Mad City.

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