Midwest Struggle Country artist Robbie Sender is Live from the Madcity on Max Ink Radio

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Here in the studio, Milwaukee singer and songwriter,

Robbie Sender is no stranger to heartbreak, which might be a prerequisite for playing in a

genre called Midwest Struggle Country. And after the passing of his father at a young age,

Robbie wrote songs and started bands at 14. But after a cocaine addiction,

ruined relationships with friends, partners and bandmates,

Robbie Sender is celebrating sobriety and embracing music.

Robbie Sender, you are live from the mad city. Welcome to magsync radio.

Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Wow. You know, do you come to Madison often?

Uh, not very often. I used to back in the day when my, uh,

I had friends going to school here and all that. So yeah, um, no, I don't,

I don't frequent Madison all too often. I though one of my bands, the, uh, old bands,

the fly by nights, we played. There's like an old church somewhere like around here.

Yeah, there's a few that has been like converted into like a living space slash, um,

uh, like venue. Oh, man, I wish I remembered the names.

I sure would. That would be. But yeah, so, uh, I've had some good times here.

Nice. Oh, Robbie, tell us how you got started in music. Uh, who is Robbie Sender?

Oh, boy. Um, so I started playing. I was probably about,

oh, about 13 years old or so. I got a guitar. I started, um,

I was lucky enough to be at a middle school where in seventh grade, you learned a little bit of

guitar and piano. Yeah. Uh, well, I grew up in a town called grafting north of Milwaukee. Yeah. So, um,

yeah, I started playing the guitar in that class and kind of fell in love with it.

I actually accidentally broke one once, like set it on a counter and it slid off and shattered.

And then, yeah, so, uh, I thought maybe like P. Townsend style. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I wasn't.

Although I did, uh, I remember once, so then in eighth, you know, I kept playing, uh,

and obviously I'm in a music class with other people who aren't playing. I got in a little trouble

for, uh, writing tablature for people who were like, cause, you know, we're supposed to read the

music and all that. And I'm like, you're good, you know, just, just play it this way and it,

you know, it helps people play it, but it's a music class, I guess. Yeah. Oh, that's funny.

What was your, uh, parents role in your musical upbringing? Um, well, my dad played, I guess,

in a band, um, when he was like, you know, 18 or 20 or whatever, um, but, uh, you know, I never had

the pleasure of hearing any of that, but he was always singing around the house and, um,

playing music and stuff like that. And, um, yeah, you know, and mom would sing low the buys and,

you know, but everybody in the family could at least carry a tune. But, uh, I did, I was,

there was no like, uh, musical background, I guess, in the, uh, in the immediate family.

Oh, we're always curious. What, what did you, what did you grow up listening to?

Oh, man. Um, well, my mom's favorites were Elvis, uh, and Beatles, my dad had an eclectic taste.

He liked everything from Patsy Klein to the monkeys to, uh, black Sabbath. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He had,

he had, uh, uh, do you play other instruments besides guitars? Yeah. So I played drums in a band

called Natalie Sue in the Steve walkie. We'll hear about that later on. Play the drums. You know,

I fiddle around on strings. I can, I can create the illusion of being able to play a piano.

I like that. Oh, that's funny. Um, what were some of your, some of your early bands that we might

know? Oh, well, uh, I doubt you would know. We may not know. The, the first band I was, uh,

ever in, uh, we were, um, we were basically just covering Blink 182 songs at like, uh,

middle school dances. Um, and then we, I started a band with some of those guys called searching for

signal. And we were like a pop punk band. Uh, funny story about them. Actually, we once,

so I, I, I got an email from the Milwaukee wave. And they wanted us to play at half time.

And this was like in 2006 or seven. Yeah. So it was like right when like pop punk was kind of

exploding, you know, and that's the soccer team, right? Yeah. Yeah. The Milwaukee wave. Yeah. Yeah.

The, the soccer team in Milwaukee. And they, uh, they sent us this email to play. And we had like

no following. We had like four crappy songs on my space. And they, my space, they hit us up.

And I was like, that's a scam. And then like, and then like time went on. And I, so I just ignored it.

And then time went on. And I like went back and like, it just occurred to me to like look at it

again. And I like looked at the, the email domain and everything. And the wave definitely tried to

have us play half time. And I just assumed it was a scam. Oh, no. So that was probably my big break.

And I missed it. Oh, boy. Um, you're currently a solo act. Uh, any band coming up in the future?

I'm hoping to. So, uh, there's a couple guys around the city that I've been jamming with here and

there. Um, but it's hard to put together, you know, because like everybody's busy, you know,

like, of course, you know, and if, uh, yeah, yeah. And like, you know, and they're also in six

other bands already. So it's, it's been hard to like actually put together a band. I've had a couple,

you know, shows that I've done with some accompaniment on pedal steel or harmonica. Um,

I got a guy I've been jamming the fiddle with lately. Um, but yeah, if anybody's listening in

Milwaukee and wants to join a band. I mean, Robbie sender. Well, let's, uh, let's check out your

goods, right? All right. Let's get to some live music from the man city with Robbie sender

presented by the Aaron Weber group. And a minute we're going to talk about addiction. But before we

do, you're going to play us a song called juice. Uh, what does this song mean to you? Oh,

what's it mean to me? Um, I mean, it was kind of at a, it was occurring at like a, I guess a pivotal

point, you know, for me, I was obviously as you alluded to in the introduction. Uh, I used to

have a bit of a cocaine problem. Uh, as in I would do it all day every day. And, um, so I was

trying to get clean. I wasn't really. And, um, I, uh, I was in therapy and I had kind of a nice

session like where I just felt like, you know, I don't even recall what it was or anything, but

something came off my chest and I sat down and, uh, started playing my guitar and immediately

the first verse of this song came to me. And then when I hit the, the, the, the, I ended it and

I was just like, holy crap. Like, I got something more there. So, um, yeah, it was kind of a song I wrote

while, uh, getting on the tail end of spinning out. So, all right. Well, let's hear it. This is juice.

And you're listening to Robbie Sender, magazine, radio. We are local music.

I never went looking for trouble. Trouble took a shine to me. Didn't think that I was a problem

till I was around. No one agreed. I guess that I've been high for way too long to be good company.

And that ragtime life done wrong me dry. At least I got my squeeze to give me the juice.

Give me them good time blues. Give me a boost. That burning cold I'm clinging to. Ain't it the truth?

We ain't got nothing left to lose. What do we do? Give me the juice.

Long before I was a schoolboy, my mama had to say it's me son.

You can't have no more but at your bound to lose your teeth. But I'd bit my own and take my own

assumed authority. Map of tides gone far too wide and I aim to give my feed. So, give me the juice.

Give me them good time blues. Give me a boost. Anything that I can use. Ain't it the truth?

We ain't got nothing left to lose. What do we do? Give me the juice.

Now but often, then I can chew some time. Once I chalk it down, I finally feel alive.

You make a mess you can't clean up. The ones you love have had enough. Oh no, you're so hungry all the time.

Now Danny, go and turn to the needle. Suppose that I could see you peep. Take a little dip in the ocean, find some respite from what's real.

To set themselves on that lonesome ship and send it all away. Band and ship boys he's gone down wasn't nothing we could say.

The game of the juice. Game of them good time blues. Game of boost. Now he's drowning in his youth. Ain't it the truth?

We ain't got nothing left to lose. What do we do? Give me the juice.

Wow. That is Robbie Sender all the way out here from Milwaukee here live from the Mad City on Maxing

Radio. Okay, man, you know, the elephants out of the bag tell us the cocaine addiction. I mean, how old were you in this when this came on?

Honestly, it wasn't all that long ago. So I was I was about like 30 when I maybe 29. I don't know somewhere around there.

When I, you know, got started with it. And it was just kind of a, you know, fun casual thing. I was actually I was

spent a lot of time with somebody that somebody who actually I'll be singing about it later, but somebody very important to me who we started doing it kind of together.

And then we, you know, ended up in a relationship for a long time. And obviously we was just fueling all of that kind of just back and forth trouble.

And then, and so at first it was just casual. And then, you know, one thing leads to another and you find yourself, you know, Friday night turns

the Thursday night turns into Wednesday afternoon, you know, is like, so I, so I struggled with that for, you know, probably four years or so.

And then one day I was, it was like 10 a.m. and I had been up for two days or something like that. And just, you know, I would do a line and just feel nothing.

And then feel terrible in like five minutes and then need another one. And it was just like this. And I finally called a buddy of mine and who had been in recovery for some time.

And I was like, dude, I can't do this anymore. Wow. So, wow, that's crazy. And now, how long have you been sober?

Well, what did I say the other day when we massage 550? So like, 51 or a couple of years now?

Well, yeah, like a year and change now, April 7th. I think, yeah.

How does it feel that, you know, us and, you know, it's probably this thing you're, you're almost like hiding. But, you know, now it's all the open and you're talking about on the radio.

Yeah. How do you feel about that? I mean, honestly, it's a, it's a little uncomfortable. But it's also like, whatever, dude, it's, you know, that's my life. That's what I, the decisions I made, let me hear.

There might be, you know, other people who find themselves in that situation and they're wondering, you know, how do you break out or have the courage?

You know, honestly, even if you're like, not ready to stop, you know, like, just like be honest with the people that you feel like you can be honest with, you know, maybe it's other people that you use with, maybe it's people that don't judge you about using, like, just be like, be open with them about how you are with it.

You know, like, even if you're not, like, feeling like I want to quit, but it's like, it occurs to you one day. It's like, oh, shit, I've been doing this four days in a row. Like, oh, I'm sorry.

I'm not supposed to curse. Oh, shoot, you know, don't, don't be afraid to be honest with those people. And then, and honestly, when it, when you make the choice to do it, you got to hold yourself accountable with by telling other people, because that's like, I try to do it like by myself. It's like, I don't want, you know, mom to find out about this kind of thing.

But yeah, there's, it's no good. You won't, I mean, maybe you will, but I didn't.

Is, is music playing music a healing factor for you?

I mean, more, I like it, it doesn't consciously occur to me that way, but now that you ask it, I said, yeah, I guess so.

Because like, I mean, even, you know, when I was using, even then, like, I was writing about, you know, I wrote juice when I was still doing it.

You know, but like, I could identify a problem or a thing. So like, yes. Yeah. And I've got, you know, I've written some tunes since then that sort of, you know, touch on that.

Well, let's get back to live music from the man city with Robbie sender presented by the Aaron Weber group. The next song you have for us tonight, it is called 10 feet tall.

Is this just another silly love song?

Kind of, yeah. Yeah. I knew it. It's a, it's a feel good one. Yeah. I don't have a lot of those. So I figured I'd bring you a couple.

Let's hear Robbie sender 10 feet tall. You're listening to live from the man city on Maxing Radio.

I ain't never been a big man. So I left the fight into the rest. Suppose I prefer to keep talking. For silver tongue I'm blessed.

But it seems a lit I got in tall some, some brand new swagger him I still. The boy's been asking's all I tell him.

As boy as you ain't seen nothing yet. Yeah, I found lightning in a bottle. And thunder follows everywhere I go.

She got me running around on rooftops got me bouncing off the walls. I only stand a five foot eight. But today I'm 10 feet tall.

We have a raging lake of fire. Suppose cold are on my bones. Might have thought that I's a liar.

Till you seen it for your own. Just as you walk into the bar room. Come up and take me by the hand.

Now I'm a flash the boys are smile. When we run off and bugger with the band. Yeah, I found lightning in the bottle.

Thunder follows everywhere she goes. She got me running around on rooftops got me bouncing off the walls.

I only stand a five foot eight. But today I'm 10 feet tall. The red my head's been growing. I'm bound to float away.

Darling, draw your hero. Strike me down to stay with your lightning in the bottle.

Thunder follows everywhere you go. You got me running around on rooftops got me bouncing off the walls.

I only stand a five foot eight. But today I'm 10 feet tall. I only stand a five foot eight. But today I'm 10 feet tall.

Today I'm 10 feet tall. That is Robbie sender all the way here from Milwaukee coming in here to the mad city for us. That's really good.

You know, some of this stuff it has a little like Jim Krochi answers to it like a real storyteller type way.

Yeah, I, that's something I kind of have, I guess, become more consciously aware of as I, you know, mature as a songwriter like, you know, in the beginning, it's all just like kind of very literal like, you know, like, stupid kind of.

You know, and then, and then you kind of get pretentious and you start like being poetic and ambiguous. And then, and like, but then you realize you're just writing about nothing, you know, and everything comes back to Jim Krochi and Bob Dylan.

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I've been trying to get it a little more dialed in.

Robbie, you are a Midwest struggle country artist. What does that mean to you?

I mean, it's a genre I invented as far as I know.

Yeah, you know, it's like, I didn't feel comfortable calling myself country outright, you know, like, even like, like, yeah, it's not.

And folk music is so broad. And like, you know, it's, it's somewhere in that, it's somewhere between folk and country, I feel like, but I don't feel like.

It's a fun tree. There you go, dude. There you go.

That's your Jane. That's beautiful.

Oh, another genre right here on Maxing Radio.

You've been writing your own music since you were 14. You know, what's your style?

Lyrics first, riff concept. What comes first?

So, um, usually I'll get like, uh, a, some lyrics with a melody is kind of like how it typically works.

You know, occasionally I'll like, like, work from a phrase, but like, so for that last song.

Um, it actually, it kind of has a totally different genesis, which is kind of funny. I, um, so my bandmate Natalie, um, in my other project.

She is, uh, she, like, her and I just have this great chemistry and, uh, you know, like my, my musical sort of career, if you will, is, um, really, you know, she's expanded my community quite a bit.

And, um, and she's just a bit of a force of nature herself. So I, uh, that, uh, lightning in a bottle line. I was like, thinking, like, I was thinking about her.

Or like, I might have even said, like, lightning in a bottle. And then like, you know, then that came, uh, with the thunder follows everywhere she goes.

And then, so I was originally, I was like, right, I was going to like tell this story about her in her life. And then I just kind of wasn't going anywhere.

And then I was like, well, that's a good line. So I can use that for something. And then one day, I was, uh, it was, I woke up from sleeping with the second half of the chorus in my mind.

And I was like, I think those go together, but I don't know why yet. And they did. So.

Well, let's get back to live music in the man city with Robbie center presented by the Aaron Weber group. The next song you have for us tonight. It's called after midnight. Sounds like the party's in the kitchen.

Or is just a JJ Kale fan.

Yeah. Yeah. Party in the kitchen is one way to put it, brother.

Yeah.

Is, um, this one is going to use the, you know, I'm going to speak to my addiction somewhat here. And I'm going to use the word cocaine explicitly. That's okay. Right?

That's okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. Let's hear it. Just want to make sure after midnight. Cool. Maxing radio live from the man city with Robbie center.

I don't know cocaine after midnight.

Nothing good can happen after three. But it keeps my train going and it keeps my whistle blow and I suppose that I could spare a wink of sleep.

I don't know cocaine after midnight.

Unless I got some party in to do. I'm at a fact my boys and town this weekend we're going to dive into the deep end should be up for hair about Tuesday afternoon.

We get down. We go hard. We'll ride the wheels right off the car. Lord only knows how I scape with half my wits lonely scars after midnight out here in the dark.

I don't know cocaine after midnight.

At least that's what I tell my baby girl. And I tell her not to worry keep the truth. They don't worry.

I run myself a spot near underworld. I get down and I go hard. I ride the wheels till they come off the car. Lord only knows how I scape with half my wits lonely scars after midnight out here in the dark.

I kept on doing cocaine after midnight. Now my heart is hollow. I agree. I get angry. I get jealous. Insecure and overzealous. I think I'll just go back to smoking weed.

Awesome. Robbie sender right here live from the mad city. Max in radio. We will be right back.

You found Wisconsin's local music authority. This is Max in radio. We are local music. Yeah, Max in radio. Welcome back. I'm rocker here with Gene.

And you are listening to live from the mad city. Max in radio presented by the Aaron Weber group. We're here with Robbie sender came all the way from Milwaukee. And while Robbie, I have to tell you your songs.

It sounds great. You'd stories, the vocals, your voice. We're really impressed. Thank you. Well, let's give the drummer some. We the drummers you tell us about playing drums in in the band Natalie Sue and the steed.

Oh man, it's awesome. Yeah, we're kind of a big band. We're six piece.

We're kind of a, you know, a y'all alternative as they say these days. Okay.

Operation original cover. Yeah. Yeah. All original. I mean, we got a couple of covers in there. Yeah. You're out of Milwaukee, right? Yes. Yes. We have a few covers. Yeah. We have. I mean, and we don't have many. You know, we, we keep it. You know, we, we like to kind of keep it real with what we're trying to do with our stuff. We like to do. Yeah. We just added a Charlie Crockett cover to the set list.

And then we do another cover of a guy from from Milwaukee called old bump. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's great. What's that music is Natalie Sue in the steed? Like I said, kind of in that y'all alternative. Somebody described it as kind of a gothic country.

Gothic, which I thought was cool. Yeah, just kind of because it's like moody and like very lyrical.

But yeah. Upcoming shows, music, web info. So I basically just wrapped up like my my summer season. I don't have anything on the books. I'm going to be recording.

I mean, for Natalie. Yeah. With them, we were playing October 22nd at Cactus Club in Milwaukee. Yep. Yep. And then on November 7th at Linemann's River West Inn.

Oh, fun place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Both like awesome venues. Great sound guys over there. What's the website for Natalie Sue?

You can find us on Instagram is your best bet. And then you can find us on Spotify as well. Natalie Sue in the steed. Just type that in without spaces on Instagram. You'll find us.

Any other bands that you maybe play like bass are courting with that we should know about? Not currently. Not currently. That did some bass here and there.

We asked if you had any funny stories to tell. And your answer was hitchhiking with corpse. You know that hitchhiking can be dangerous, right?

Yeah, that's what they say. So I'll try to be brief, but it's a great story. So no, no, we got time. Okay. We had a little time. So I was.

Right. You got it. I was hitchhiking when I was like, I don't know of 25 or something like that. I was on my way up to Montana.

And actually, this was on my way back from Montana. I got picked up. There are a couple guys in the car.

And you know, that's kind of cardinal rule number one of hitchhiking is you don't get in the car outnumbered, right? And I was like, you know, they passed the initial vibe check.

And then so we're driving along and they're like, do you smoke? I was like, yeah, you know, so they start packing bowl after bowl of weed.

And it's helped their dynamic is hilarious because the driver like won't stop talking like lights in the sky out in the desert, like kind of like conspiracy collects and stuff.

You know, like he just keeps going and going. And then his buddy is like silent Bob and just once a while just here.

And so, so like we're, you know, we're kind of stony baloney now at this point. And we get to, you know, and I was under the presupposition.

We're going to whatever the next city was kind of, you know, the next major place where I felt like I'd be able to get a ride.

We get off at this exit in the middle of nowhere on like reservation land where it's like a gas station and a casino.

And when I say a casino, I don't mean like pato or something like that. I mean like a shed with some slot machines inside of it.

And the only people there are stopping for gas are either locals or like families like from Mount Worshmore. And they want nothing to do with a hitchhiker.

And so they get off at this exit. And I was like, wait, I thought we were going to blah, blah, blah city. And they're like, no, no, I said we were going toward that city.

And so now I'm stranded high as heck in the middle of nowhere trying to get a ride. And I'm sitting there for a while like wondering what the heck I'm going to do.

And this guy pulls up in a mini van. And he's like, you need ride. I was like, yes, please. And he's like, yeah, just throw your bag in the back.

I'm going to run inside and grab stuff. So I open the trunk of his car. I toss my bag in there. I see he's like carrying some cargo, you know, about six feet long, you know.

And then we're driving along for a little while. And he's like, yeah, the boss doesn't like when I have passengers. I was like, why is that? He's like, because that's a body in the back.

Wow. And I'm like, what dude? And so he explains me that he's transporting it from one reservation to another reservation for like tribal burial.

Yeah. Supposedly anyway. Right. And then but like, well, I don't know anything about this. You know, and yeah. So we hide. Yeah. So I was.

It's like you had a corpse. Yeah, that was it's a real thing. Wow. That's crazy. Well, let's get back to live music from the man city with Robbie sender presented by the Aaron Weber group. The next song you have for us tonight is called Other Side of Blue. Is this a song about reconnecting with the past.

Yeah, yeah. So this, the gal I mentioned earlier, we both got clean and we reconnected and it was, it was just nice to see her, you know, on the other side of it. And this song is kind of about that day.

It's kind of like I like this song a lot because it it's cool. Well, yeah, my own stuff's cool. I really like this one because it tells like a specific story that like only I know kind of what it means. But then it's also, you know, like,

a liturative too. So it's like, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm singing a song for myself. And I'm also singing a song for everybody else. And I kind of like that. Well, let's hear it. It's other side of blue. This is Robbie sender. You're listening to live from the mad city on maxing radio.

Sit train dreams and black caffeine. It gets us through the worst.

Never thought I'd see the day where we would cease to hurt. Now we're finding ways to navigate these lives we're living through.

Boldly breaking down the walls on the other side of blue, the other side of blue.

I came upon the quarry wound up digging up some dirt till the back end when I was slipping. So I slipped it in reverse.

Could across the field to find ourselves upon the roof, laughing about them lives we led on the other side of blue, the other side of blue.

We always knew what we were doing, how we love to play pretend. Go out seeking our salvation in the nights that just won't end.

And finally saying that what we knew wasn't some we could use.

It's mighty fine to say it. It's good to see you on the other side of blue.

Now I dream you in the evening because I can't see you in the days.

By then the cravings we'd been fiendin' for had wasted a safe way.

So to love you from a distance I suppose you're gonna have to do.

I hope that you ain't alone on the other side of blue, the other side of blue.

We always knew what we were doing, how we love to play pretend when I'd seek in our salvation in the nights that just won't end.

And finally saying that what we knew wasn't some we could use.

It's mighty fine to say it. It's good to see you on the other side of blue.

The other side of blue, Robbie Sender, that was pretty cool. That was a great song.

Hey, thanks man.

For someone like me who doesn't get out to Milwaukee as much as I'd like to, what is the outlaw country seen like out in the Peru city?

Outlaw country. That's an interesting question because it's like, first of all it's sort of, it's brazen to call yourself outlaw country in a certain way.

So it's like, but I mean, I don't know in my, I don't know, I certainly, I don't, I don't feel safe or authentic in calling myself an outlaw country artist per se.

But it wasn't one thing that's interesting about that is like there's this overlap between that and like the punk community, especially in Northwest.

Like I've been, I've been pretty embraced by by like punk or like like like a folk punk type.

Sure. Yeah.

And all that kind of thing.

So like there's, there's a lot of like country action going on. If it's outlaw country or not, I'm not sure.

But yeah, there's like a lot of good bands out there.

We've had gods outlaw out here. Oh, yeah. And you heard those guys.

I don't think I have actually got to see gods outlaw. They're a great Milwaukee band.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's, they're all like the, especially like the people that I've kind of connected with lately.

Well, dead dead swans for one, he's kind of in like that folk.

I think that he calls it trucker email, which I love.

We're hearing all the new genres tonight on Mexican radio. Yeah. What the heck?

Valley Jacobs, my buddy. One of my best friends in the whole world, Peter hair.

He's not really a country more indie folk, but I wanted to show him how quick.

And then Derek Pritzel, dandy frailing, Katie catchover, Valley Fox.

I don't know if I can say the B word Creek, is the name of that other band Max Neeman, there's there's so many good, Wow, artists and Milwaukee.

What do you, what do folk artists out here in Madison? What should they be doing to get shows out in Milwaukee?

Oh, well, hit me up. Yeah, I mean, honestly, that's, that's one thing to about the music community is like, you know, knowing people is everything.

So, um, but like seriously, feel free to, if you are in, you know, folk artists, country artists, whatever.

Um, or honestly, whatever you do, you know, feel free to hit me up on Instagram at Robbie Sender.

And, uh, if I don't know somebody, I can probably connect you with somebody, but I'd love to put together stuff.

And, you know, maybe we can, you know, I can come out here, whatever, but, um,

Well, I always find there's a little bit of a disconnect sometimes between artists playing in Milwaukee and Madison.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's really, um, it's not easy. It's tough. Yeah. You just got to like, it, it's really just like, you know, building the, you know, relationships with people and, you know, you play a gig once and you have a good time with somebody.

And it's like, hey, dude, let's do this again. Cross open shows. Yeah.

Robbie, many of the songs you're playing tonight are not out yet, but you have plans to record this winner.

Um, will that include any of the songs that we're hearing tonight? Yeah, actually probably, I would say at least most of them.

Um, yeah, I want to, uh, I want to record over the winter. I always get stuck at like the, um, the production part, you know, because I write, I write these songs by myself.

And, you know, I, and they don't feel like I, you know, I'm happy to play them alone and all that, but like, when I'm recording them, I feel like I want to embellish them, but I don't have like a vision of what they ought to be.

So they need to produce it. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, you just met Paul Souther here in a few minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I'll probably give him a shout. Um, I mean, yeah.

So, so just having, it's like literally I would love the ability to just like take me and my voice, give it to somebody and just be like, turn this into whatever you feel like is right.

Wow. Well, we're recording tonight, you know, all right. There you go.

A very trusting person.

Uh, well, let's get back to live music from the Mad City with Robbie sender presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song that you have for us tonight, it's called small town love. You know that Madison is the biggest small town.

That's right. That's what they say. What's this song about?

Uh, this is a song that loves song about a, it's kind of based on a true story about a guy who meets a girl from a, from New York and falls for.

And then, uh, you know, he, you know, he's basically like, oh, I love this girl. I'm going to, like, I'm going to move to New York and, uh, and about kind of how that unfolds.

All right. Let's hear it. Small town love. This is Robbie sender on live from the Mad City on Maxing Radio.

She was running from a lover in the town she left behind, paying rent out in the city.

Hiding out behind the pines is it happens I was passing through that little town that day when that city girl she rocked my world and hopped aboard a plane.

What did I do? What did I do? I ain't never liked the city but New York going to have to do. What did I do? What did I do?

For that small town love to call me passing through. So I packed myself a suitcase through my Martin in the truck, grabbed my dog and a pack of cigarettes and my movies me look.

I'm heading for the cold since time I see myself the world. Now he's bound on the interstate going to see about a girl. What did I do? What did I do?

My friends are called me crazy and I'm thinking that it's true. What did I do? What did I do? For that small town love to call me passing through.

And I've very soon ran out of money. So now I'm sangin' on the street. At least I got to see my honey.

Before she told me, I was a creep. What did I do? What did I do? I drove clear across the country without clearing it with you. What did I do? What did I do?

For that small town love to call me passing through. I guess that small town love was only passing through.

Yeah, small town love. Robbie sender right here, live from the mad city. Wow, really incredible.

Thank you. Tell me about motorcycle trip to Mexico.

Oh man, yeah, that was awesome. That was like what, 2016 or something like that. Yeah, I had an old bike that I fixed up with the help of a couple of friends.

And I, yeah, I took it, actually, so I drove it north first from Milwaukee to my buddy's bachelor party.

And then from up there, you know, I went down to Dallas. I got stranded in Dallas for a while because my bike broke down and I couldn't figure out what was going on.

Dude, if I have time, I'd love to tell you this guy Brent Femister knows everything there's to know about motorcycles and Dallas.

And I couldn't find anybody to work on my bike every shop is booked out the like weeks, the months because it's always riding season.

And somebody gave me this dude's number and was like, he might be able to help you. And I call him. He's like, no, I can't help you, but we're chatting.

And I tell him what I'm riding, like it was, I don't know, 79 KZ 650, I think. And he's like, you're digging that to Mexico.

And I was like, yes, sir, he's like, does it run? No, can you tow it? Yes, sir. So I'd spent like a week at his shop, like living in his shop while we fixed up my bike.

And then yeah, and then I, so I was, you know, now I was kind of hurrying through Mexico because I was trying to get down to Wohaka for the day of the dead festival.

So I went down there, met, met this beautiful Italian woman spend some time with her, said, extended my trip by about three weeks, staying out with her.

And, but yeah, so yeah, I made it all the way down there. And then I left. So I was going to, I left my bike with a guy down there that I had made friends with and he let me park it in his yard. And I was like, I'll be back.

And then like a year goes by. And of course, you know, because I've fallen in love with this Italian girl was like, I'm going to, I'm going to move the Mexico.

And she, so he messaged me and was like, are you picking up your bike? I was like, dude, I can't. So I sent him the title.

Oh, man. Well, at least it ended up in good hands. You know, thanks for coming out so much.

Yeah, of course, thank you for having me rock your game.

Performing the studio. We really appreciate it. And you're going to play a song called My Friend.

Yes, sir.

And how important are your friends?

Oh, my God, dude, they're everything. I mean, yeah, I have, I've been really, really blessed in my life to have a ton of, you know, I have a group chat with like 16 dudes and we all went to high school together.

You know, and like we've been friends for a long time.

And then I got, you know, this amazing music community in Milwaukee with my band. And like, I love those guys so much.

And yeah, I mean, and you know, they've been there for me in hard times. And I've been, you know, I, I, yeah, I cannot understand.

I cannot overstate how important my friends are to me.

Well, we have one more time. We have a time for one more song. And this one's called My Friend.

I think it speaks for itself, but why don't you go ahead and play it for us.

Give what you got till it's gone.

Do what feels right till it's wrong. If you ain't sure what you're doing it for, then it's probably time to move on.

It is what it is till it ain't. Do what you can till you can't.

When it comes time to leave it behind you be sure that you don't hesitate.

Years to the nights that we'll never remember. Years to our stories don't know how they'll end.

Like we'd live forever, I'll never say never. I'm sure glad to call you My Friend.

If you learn to take someone's advice then you better make sure that they're right.

If they say that they know then they probably don't. Your best judgment will have to suffice.

If you're spending your life trying to be anything other than free, you don't know what you're doing.

There's trouble brewing, you best keep some distance from me.

But all you know is what you know trying to give. Here you go hope to see what there is to be seen.

One day life knocks you down, puts you down on the ground ain't no telling how that's gonna be.

But I tell you something that I have found lightens the load of this life.

They're the people that you're standing beside.

Years to the places we don't know we're going. Years to the people we are in the end.

I'm certain nothing but I tell you something. I'm sure glad to call you My Friend.

Yes I am.

Thank you so much for coming in tonight.

My Instagram Robbie sender Robbie dot sender my Spotify where you can hear that last song I just played.

And then because I like post all my my show dates are always on my Spotify and then I'll you know post flyers and whatever on my Instagram as well.

I do have a Facebook page you know if you want to connect with me there feel free.

That's Robbie R O B B I E. Yes R O B B I E sender like return to.

Do you have some connection to send out a lot of email or mail or how do you send her comfort.

So my real name is Schreiner but people always inevitably mispronounced this Schneider.

So I was like I got to change it and then I was like you know I was when I branded this project I was also doing blow all the time and I was like send it and I was like oh yeah Robbie sender.

Yeah cuz I send it man it was dude so cocaine will make you so in love with yourself it's gross dude stay away from that shop local eat local listen local this is maxing radio we are local music.