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The Mascot Theory’s Cosmic Hit And Run: Live from the Madcity

Max Ink Radio · Sat Sep 20, 2025

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Grief doesn't knock.

It crashes.

For Eric Gellin, a mascot theory that cosmic hit and run came with his father's passing

and then his own battle for survival against a rare and potentially fatal brain condition,

those life altering experiences have inspired the mascot theory's newest album, Cosmic

Hit and Run, and it's set to be released in the beginning of October.

Here with us tonight, playing songs from their upcoming album, It's Live from the Mad

City presented by Aaron Weber Group.

It's the mascot theory.

Eric, Lori, Nick, Paul, welcome to Max Inc.

Radio.

Good evening.

How's it going, friends?

This is a thrill.

You guys, an absolute thrill to have you with us.

You know, what is the mascot theory?

Sometimes I say the mascot theory so many times.

I think, well, wait, wait, what's the theory?

I mean, is this like a rabbit hole we can go down like on YouTube, I mean, it's a pretty

small hole to go down there.

Way, way, way back.

Here is a story.

When I used to work at a place, we would do an NCAA bracket pool and a friend of mine would

always choose his based on what mascot would win in a fight and he lost every year, like

miserable.

Of course, no problem putting his money down and losing it, but we always thought it was

hilarious to watch it, but also he and I had a list going of like, oh, that's a funny

band name of a whole bunch of just random things that would come up.

And the mascot theory became one of those listed names and then when we accidentally became

a band years ago, I grabbed one of those names and that and who knew we were going to stick

with that.

It's a great name.

And now that we know the story behind it, it's even, I think, a little more fun.

I want to start a fantasy mascot league now.

That'd be kind of fun, right?

It's long as everybody else.

Everybody's got to be there.

You know?

Oh my goodness.

Okay, Eric, we're going to start with you about that.

Let's do it.

Yeah, Eric Chellen, singer, songwriter, guitarist for, now we know, the mascot theory.

What do you want to tell us about yourself and how did you get started in music?

I mean, I started listening to music.

I remember my earliest was probably like Sesame Street.

I remember like the letter B and I was like, that's a cool song and there's like beetles

that are dressed up puppet beetles or muppets maybe they were.

And I'm like, that's a cool song and not knowing there was an actual real band behind

it.

But that was probably the first one.

And they just had cool music on that.

And then, you know, of course, fast forward, my parents, as far as what inspired me to

want to do it and write and my parents were in a band.

And I just loved watching live music, you know, drums bass, you know, all that fun stuff

rock and roll.

And so I started kind of listening a little bit more.

And then the beetles anthology came out in the 90s.

And that was kind of it for me from a songwriter standpoint.

I was like, oh my word.

And watching that through my parents' eyes, because they were rewatching that for, you

know, seeing all those memories and all those amazing songs.

And I was really getting introduced to the story of the beetles from the first time.

I had known a lot of the songs just from radio stations back in the day.

But this was the first time getting the story.

So that was when I was like hooked as a songwriter and to watch this band do it.

That was it.

Wow.

What did they think when, get back here, man?

Ooh.

I think they dug that.

I liked it a lot.

That was incredible.

I'm actually really looking forward to the anthology coming back out again now.

And later this year, I think, right?

Yeah.

Now, the new album Cosmic Hit and Run is inspired by events of your father's passing.

And later a diagnosis of a rare brain condition.

Tell us about your father, David Geland.

My dad was an optometrist.

And he was an amazing bass player and then singer.

And that was one of the things I loved about that band that they had is that, and probably

why I was drawn to the Beatles as well.

I just love the harmonies.

That's always been my thing that I've really enjoyed and always wanted to replicate in

any project I ever do as harmony.

So if you want to be in the band, hopefully you can say that helps.

And I think that was a big part of it.

So listening to my dad's saying and my mom harmonized with my aunt.

And it was just a really incredible experience growing up and watching that.

And then I just kind of wanted to replicate that as much as I could.

Let me ask you quick, the name of your dad's band and where were they kind of based out

of?

A Christian rock band back in the early 80s as we were growing up.

And then eventually it sort of morphed into a worship team band at a non-denominational

church.

Middle point.

It was actually in Darlington.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Just for anybody listening, they might go, oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So they were the worship team band.

And so they would rehearse in a basement and different Wednesday nights and stuff.

And we'd be dragged along to sit and listen, which is awesome.

Did you ever get to play in a band with your dad?

Sadly, well, two times I ever played with him.

And ironically or not, ironically, it was Beatles songs.

So I had a band called Fallen Rody's back in college and kind of the tail end of that

band.

It was kind of like post-college before another band kind of started.

We had a show at the Middle Point Opera House in my hometown Middle Point.

And my dad and I just kind of started getting into like, maybe I want to play some Beatles

songs.

And dad was like, I know all of them.

And so he and I did, we did two times together where we played.

We opened that show for the Rody's that gig.

And then we also played in a bar, you know, a bar gig, the same set, all Beatles songs.

So really full circle.

Oh, special.

Yeah.

That is special.

Well, let's get to some live music from the Man City with a mascot theory presented

by the Aaron Weber group.

The first song you have for us tonight is from your new album Cosmic Hit and Run.

And it's called, as I lay here, is this about the impossible challenge of staying present

when everything hurts?

I think it's about staying, it's about learning how to actually get things done or want

to get things done.

But you can't.

You're kind of comatose.

You really want to, you know, in this case, my dad was going through a really, really

hard two years of first-of-blood infection from a kidney stone and then a pancreas

that died and then just complications for two years.

And me, and really that's what this album is about, is me watching him go through that

for two years.

And the last part of it being through COVID, which made it really, really hard to get

into the hospital and kind of be a representative for him.

So my mom and I and family were trying to get in there as much as we could to help be

an advocate for his healthcare.

But that was really what this was about, was like, you feel helpless.

Like you want to get something done.

You want things to go well, we kept thinking the next thing was going to be the thing that

would push him back and get him going again.

And they just, it just never did for two years.

And that's kind of what this album was based on was how do we, how do we deal with that?

Yeah.

Everybody can relate to these songs too.

So as you listen to, as I lay here, just really listen to the words, it's, it's really

impactful.

And I'm learning on fumes and memory, fine tune, the camera's blue, I'm just a lake

here, I can only think of you.

Only there was another way to get myself up and walk away, I'm just a lake here, I

can only think of you.

A life to me and I could find a seed to cut down my calories, I can only think of

you.

And I'm learning on fumes and memory, fine tune, the camera's blue, I'm just a lake here.

And I'm learning on fumes and memory, fine tune, the camera's blue, I'm just a lake here,

I can only think of you.

And I'm learning on fumes and memory, fine tune, the camera's blue, I'm just a lake here.

We're the place, another time, we could have been in our life.

How cool is that?

That is so cool.

The mask got there as I lay here.

And in January of this year, you started recording a new album, but Destiny had a curveball for you.

Tell us about what happens next.

You got this diagnosis.

Yeah, so we started recording this album.

We already knew that it was going to be this kind of intense subject matter just dealing with my dad.

It was a concept album that we decided to do.

And then we did some drum tracking and some bass tracking at Cory's house.

But really from November, maybe even sooner than that, I started having these really horrible headaches.

And it was dizzy, vision blurring and all kinds of stuff.

And it was like, you know, even through the rehearsals for the album, I was like, guys, I got to sit down for this rehearsal.

I got these weird headaches that are just popping up.

And so that was about it.

We started, we did the album, we did the session with the drums and bass.

And then it was about two weeks later that my doctor was like, maybe we should do an MRI.

And so we did an MRI and then a second one.

And after a bunch of other stuff, we realized I had an arteriovenous fistula in the smack dab center of my brain right in the middle.

Wow.

Which is basically like an artery in a vein that were connected.

And so blood flowing from one to the next, one's pressurized, one's not.

It could mean it could blow at any second.

And apparently I've been growing that way for eight years, ten years.

They're not really sure.

But they discovered that and then kind of got immediately booked for a surgery that would hopefully take care of that.

But it was going to be about three months.

And so the whole rest of the time.

The waiting.

Wow.

For all of you.

Yeah.

So it was really just like, and it was the directions where don't do anything.

Just like do nothing.

Yeah, so easy, right?

And fingers crossed, nothing goes wrong even when you're doing nothing.

And that was, you know, I had these horrible headaches.

They got worse and worse and worse.

And by headaches, it was also like facial pressure, my teeth hurt, my eyes hurt, the vision was bad.

It was just really bad.

But even through all of that, I was like, we're going to work on this album as much as we possibly am.

Because it really, you know, the subject matter meant so much to me with my dad.

And then I just was like, this is something for me to do on the laptop.

We decided to record the whole thing on our own in the first place.

So it was actually worked out that, okay, well, I'm sitting on a couch doing nothing.

I can do some mixing or, you know, record some guitars or whatever.

And so that's basically how we did the old album through all of that.

That's incredible.

It is, it is.

Well, let's get back to live music.

We have to hear some more of this.

Live from the Mad City with the mascot theory presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song you have for us tonight is from your new album Cosmic Hit and Run.

And it's called Got a Grip.

Is this about being in the eye of the hurricane?

No.

It's really just about like when, when everything's just going on around you,

that's just wrong and nothing's working out.

And things just seem like it's all falling apart.

You know, a lot of my songs tend to be like a little downer,

but there's always a little glimmer of hope, I think.

And I think that's what this was, especially through this whole process of this album,

making it, but also just the theme of the album, you know, dealing with my dad's death

and then kind of the grieving process.

And that was really what this was about.

It was like, there's even with all this going on,

there's still a little something that we can hang on to.

Yeah.

You know, when you mentioned that it's kind of that concept album idea,

come to their show that's coming up.

They've got several, but the one in Madison is on October 5th,

and you'll hear this from beginning to end, played live.

Yeah, and we're bringing our friend with us.

Tyler Durden's going to come down and wrap for us.

Oh, that's awesome.

And I think he's listing right now.

Hey, what's up?

Hey, Tyler!

We can't wait to see you.

I'm going to do my best to try to do his part on this one.

See how it goes.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm done.

Maybe it's the 10th of October.

Maybe it's the bloodstain in my hand.

Maybe it's the center in a breeze.

Maybe it's you.

Wow.

Yeah.

Got a grip.

That is the mascot theory right here on live from the man city, Eric.

What was different about the man that wrote the lyrics from the man that was singing them when you were recording?

I mean, the biggest thing was there was a grieving person that was that had written these lyrics.

A grieving person who's trying to heal who was, you know,

writing the songs out of the lyrics and then all the sudden a guy who was facing his own eternity

and not knowing what the future was going to be and sitting and waiting and hoping that there would be a fix and that the fix would work.

And that just put a whole new emotional spin on every single song on the album.

Wow. What has, you know, how are you feeling today?

Well, the good news is that I had a follow up MRI and they confirmed that the fix worked.

So there's no more threat for any kind of a check out early kind of thing.

Wow.

That's the good.

That's incredible.

Unfortunately, I'm still having a lot of the same issues and symptoms that I had prior to.

So there's a chance that everything that I had, even though it led to this amazing life saving thing,

it may not have even been related.

So that's kind of the weird part of all of this.

So we're doing some more medical tests and a lot more things to try to get through.

But, you know, just it's a blessing to be able to get out and play music with these fellows.

Yeah.

And do the best we can day by day, right?

Do you just put it kind of not to say out of your head, but I mean, that's kind of when you're on stage and you guys are all together.

I know what that means to you.

So are you just up there thinking, I'm going to play these beautiful songs with my friends for my friends?

I really just want to make sure I can get through the set.

So like if it's if it's something where I'm not feeling great going into it, I might not be jumping around on stage and banging my head around as much as I might normally be doing.

But I worked my way back up to until I'm getting more energetic again.

And I feel good on the days I feel good.

I feel great. And that's probably the problem is that I need to dial it down a little bit when I do feel good so that I don't feel worse when I'm not feeling great if that makes sense.

And as the mascot theory is kind of evolved, you guys have really become that show that as a fan and a friend, we want to watch you on stage.

Because you are all like active and running around and jumping around and it's a great live show.

It is so much fun to see you guys.

We have a blast and a lot of that comes from Mr. Corey swadley and his ball of energy that he is.

Well, and now he is untethered. So he goes out into the crowd.

So if you're going to a mascot, they're going to watch out.

That's right.

I find myself asking sound texts and sound engineers. Is it okay if I jump on your subwoofer?

I need a way to get off of the stage. So you just want to make sure that.

Because we're polite.

Yeah, I'm not going to jump off the stage and that's where I'm going to land.

Is that going to hold me?

You might have we trash this hotel room. Is that cool with you?

We did have it happen at a gig where I jumped off and it just so happened right when I hit the top of the speaker.

Half of the power on the stage went out.

Oh, no.

And it had nothing to do with me because the power wasn't at a completely different place.

But everybody's looking at you. I'm like, what did I just do?

Like I just broke the thing.

Yeah, it was not my fault, but boy did I feel like it for the rest of the show.

That makes for a good story at least.

Well, let's get back to live music from the Mad City with the mascot theory presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song you have for us tonight, it's from your new album Cosmic Kitten.

It's called Final Hour. I'm not going to lie. This sounds heavy.

This was really the first song for the album. It's actually what made me want to do an album like this.

It was the concept wise I had written this. It actually was around when we were in Texas for our last album and we recorded down there.

This was one of the songs in consideration.

And how do we have done it for that album? It wouldn't have been the same.

So it kind of became this song we set aside for another day.

And once Corey and I were talking about what's our next album going to be like?

This was the one that I was like, well, this is definitely to do with my dad.

It was the exact story of what kind of what happened and how one of the nights where we just thought this was it.

Every time he went into a surgery, they basically prepped us. This is probably the last one.

This is probably not going to come out of this one.

And he came out of many of them. And this one included.

In fact, it was a full year after this when he finally had passed away.

But this I remember sitting down in the hospital room and just started jotting down these lyrics.

And this was kind of the first song that I'd written out of that whole experience.

So yeah, it's it's what made the whole album kind of be what it is.

Wow. Well, let's check it out right now.

The mascot theory live.

Introduction.

Oh, boy, this is called Final Hour.

It's a beautiful song.

The mascot theory.

So you're taking an open night stroll.

Wondering blind to the unknown.

Searching for answers.

Only ghosts could ever know.

We travel in unpaid gravel road.

What you will find there, God only knows.

But deep in the darkness, we're light to guide your home.

Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Can I get some sleep tonight while these memories collide?

Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Can you make it back to me when shadows fill your eyes?

You didn't wander with time for the daily grind.

And you didn't plan the pain that's to sigh.

Surrounded by strangers while the symptoms multiply.

I tried to cope with this little box.

And in a broken house, a bunch of darks.

And in a life in the bottom of an empty city or box.

Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Can I get some sleep tonight while these memories collide?

Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Can you make it back to me when shadows fill your eyes?

You didn't plan the pain that's to sigh.

Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Can I get some sleep tonight while these memories collide?

Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Can you make it back to me when shadows fill your eyes?

You didn't plan the pain that's to sigh.

Surrounded by strangers while the symptoms multiply.

Wow, incredible.

We will be right back with mascot theory with more live from the mad city on Maxincradio.

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Indeed, we are very local and live tonight with the mascot theory.

I love this.

We are getting texts.

Let me read these to you just super quick.

Yay, mascot theory.

That was one text.

The other one is, oh my gosh, this sounds so great.

And you're going to like this one, Cory.

Along with everything else, Cory's solos are freaking.

And freaking is extended as a word.

That's the kind of enthusiasm we're looking at.

That's what I love.

We have a great audience listening to you tonight.

We appreciate the kind words.

And enjoying you.

Let me ask you about this.

Let's talk about the band, Eric.

I've said, even though you guys are just four, people playing together,

you sound so much bigger than that.

And so we've got to give the drummer some to start with playing a drum set live in our studio.

Paul Metz.

He's gotta focus on our room because he's got his kit tonight, so.

But we can see him through the glass.

Yeah, he counts him and he's looking good.

He always looks good.

I am taking pictures and video to prove all of it.

And just so you know, he's playing a 1963 Rodgers drum set.

Claro.

I'd like to have that out there, right?

I know, you can't quite hear him.

But yeah, oh my gosh, okay.

And then holding down the base.

But I always say, this is where things can really go

right.

If the base player gets off, you know, like with the drummer,

they kind of got to stick together.

Nick Fry's very suddenly lonely basis.

Yeah, buddy jokes.

Just tell us about Nick.

Nick and I are brothers from another mother.

There you go.

Nick, how long have you been playing together?

Over 20 years.

20 years.

We're over two years old.

We started.

I was going to say you guys aren't old enough.

Nick is a very patient man to hang out with.

You're coming on the base by your jokes.

Oh, well, let's get back to music from the man city

with the mascot theory presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song that you have for us tonight is from your new album

and it's called Constellation Prize.

Does this song transform grief into something cosmic?

It's actually like, so what we did is this whole album

when we decided to make it.

Side A is all kind of about grief.

Inside B is kind of like, how do you heal through all of that?

And then kind of more of a cosmic thing.

Okay, what's next?

What's next after death?

What's after tragedy?

And this song is kind of that cosmic,

it's what the name cosmic hit and run comes out of this song.

It's just kind of that step back that, you know,

one million foot view of, okay, what was all this about?

What is everything here that we're doing here?

What are we here for?

Yeah, it's just kind of like, what's this all about?

That's a great question.

Sounds deep.

All right, let's hear it.

Constellation Prize.

This is the mascot theory live from the mad city on Maxing Radio.

Looking at my eyes, you see again, it's clear.

It's so clear.

I'm glad that we're not here.

And I was not allowed in here.

It's clear.

It's so clear.

I feel and love me wrong.

And all I'm doing was,

Constellation Prize.

It's cosmic hit and run,

and time be on the come stars up in the sky.

Drop to the hole in the sun,

and we're going low on the hill.

It's clear.

It's so clear.

And then has a way over again.

I'm coming in and out of season.

It's clear.

It's so clear.

All we're looking for,

and all I'm doing was,

Constellation Prize.

It's cosmic hit and run,

and time be on the come stars up in the sky.

All we're looking for,

and all I'm doing was,

Constellation Prize.

It's cosmic hit and run,

and time be on the come stars up in the sky.

It's so clear.

The mascot theory.

Wow, Constellation Prize.

That was incredible.

I'm exhausted and I'm just talking.

Wow, it's so good.

You do double time playing in lower fifth,

and you're here tonight.

Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Well, how'd you get started playing?

I can see it's real sturdy.

Where am I going to see it?

I'm from Madison, Wisconsin, born and raised.

My family is from here,

and so I live just north of Madison,

and I feel really lucky to have this opportunity

to play music with all these wonderful people

and to be in places like this that celebrate local music

but original local music.

We appreciate how you guys take care of that for us

and allow us this opportunity to

celebrate what we do.

Paul Metz and I have been playing together for,

like, 15 plus years now.

So we've been in the lower fifth for a long time,

and at the same time he was playing with mascot theories.

So when the opportunity came up about,

I want to say four years ago,

Eric and I sat down and he's like,

you know what, might be time.

You should come in audition.

You guys all have been auditioned.

You show up and it's yours.

We just knew it.

You'd have to show up without hands.

You're a live job.

You're a job.

Yeah.

So we've known each other for a long time,

and a lot of it was through our dear brother Luke Jorgensen.

You know, he had recorded, I think,

our first album.

Our first album, and he was the leader of the lower fifth,

and so he was kind of a glue of sorts to a lot of this.

But there's a brotherhood that's grown from this music scene,

and we're just happy to be a part of this

greater Madison music scene that is just so amazing.

It really is.

Yeah.

We're just so thrilled to have all of you,

the whole band.

We all fit.

I can't believe we're all standing on this desk together.

It's the tiny desk.

It's the tiny desk concert.

I sleep in a drawer.

That's got theory.

That's got theory has a pair of record release parties coming up.

Cosmic hit and run.

Terry, up in your neck of the woods in Appleton.

Yes.

Friday, October 3rd at Gibson Music Hall.

Atwood Music Hall here in Madison on Sunday, October 5th.

I get to ask questions that evening.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

You're up on stage.

I don't know what.

Yeah.

So this is a different kind of show.

This isn't like just a normal performance.

No, we wanted it to be something different.

This album was such a different kind of album for us and different kind of process.

But we're so super proud of it.

But we're like, I think we want people to like sit down at this show and like just kind of like take it in.

And we're going to perform the whole thing in its entirety.

We've got a big part of this album was kind of the connectors between everything.

And we just wanted to make sure we played that in a live setting that just kind of fit what it was.

So that's what we're going to do.

And then we're going to have an interview right before that.

So we have a chance to kind of talk about the album a little bit before we play it.

Give a little prep.

Wow.

It's going to be amazing.

I cannot encourage people listening enough to come to these shows.

Either one or both, because it is, it's going to be different.

And having them play the entire album from beginning to end.

Wow.

And we've got some guest artists that are going to come up.

We've kind of been able to take all the the phone sounds and the the soundscapes that we wrote for all the in-betweens.

And we're going to be able to recreate it all live.

Yeah.

And Miles Neal said is opening the show.

It's going to be there.

And yeah, it's pretty awesome.

Is he like solo?

Where's that with his band?

He's doing solo acoustic.

Yeah.

He's going to do a rare solo set.

And it's going to be amazing.

I've never even heard it before.

Haha.

This sounds like a great show and Terry, I'm stage interview.

I am.

This is just crazy.

It could be if they're allowing me on stage with that.

It'll be a party indeed.

Oh my goodness.

Well, let's get back to live music from the man city with the mascot theory presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song you have for us tonight.

It's called Still Here.

And is this song about the stubborn will to keep it going?

This is the last song on the album.

And it was the hardest one for me to record my lyrics for.

And I actually changed them a little bit because going through all the stuff I was going through in the recording process.

It was like, oh, this is this is a little different now.

Wow.

And I had to think about the lyrics are very specifically.

I'm still here.

I'm still breathing.

And it just it took me a lot of tries to get that thing recorded after try after try after try and just like not being happy with it and not trusting my ears and also just like being able to get through it.

And so this was the last thing that I have recorded for the entire album.

And so last track.

Wow.

Yeah, I changed the words again.

Just kind of kept meaning meeting something different to him or something more.

And I'm like, all right, man, just keep going.

Keep going.

Just let us know when you're done.

And it keeps you on your toes too.

Yeah, definitely.

Well, let's check it out.

It's still here.

This is the mascot theory.

Songs from their new album Cosmic Hit and Run.

You're listening to Live From the Mad City on Maxing Radio.

And maybe it's not gonna do it.

Searching for clues, man.

We've been in the past the heart of something.

Go down on the cheeky cow.

And that's all for this thing.

Can you come and drop in the changer, turn into a play?

Turn only, we're not close to stop singing, for the song,

we're more than known, to the new end right is it.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

We've been here before, from the red to the black,

to bring the last, we've been here before.

And we broke through the cracks, to the break and then back.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Absolutely amazing.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun.

And I'm still here.

I'm still breathing.

And every year I's in sun,

I can get through the seasons.

And I'm still here.

I'm still breathing.

And I've got time to keep this life a little more meaningful.

I'm still here.

I'm still breathing.

And every year I's in sun,

I can get through the seasons.

I'm still here.

I'm still breathing.

And every year I'm still here.

I'm still here.

I'm still there.

I'm still breathing.

And every year I should breathe,

because I can give this time a little more meaning.

But we're still here.

Oh my goodness, yes!

That is the mascot theory and their songs still here.

Some of these songs are being played live here to be heard for the first time.

Because these albums and CDs aren't even out yet.

That's right, that's quite a preview.

We just have like the first copy sitting on your desk right now.

I saw that earlier.

Yes, one more.

Exciting.

Thank you.

Thank you for having us.

I'm glad to be here.

Eric, one last question before we go to the final song.

You believe in the healing power of music at the time.

Yeah, I mean, this album got me through.

So I think if there's anything to be taken away from it,

yeah, it helped me heal.

At least from a mental standpoint and give me something to do

and get my mind off of things at the time.

So yeah, absolutely.

Beautiful.

You have so much great music before this album.

Would you mind playing out to the end of the show?

Sure.

The last song from your previous album,

Sign of Life,

and it's called End of the Line.

And we're just going to have them take us right out to the top of the hour.

And on behalf of Jane and myself and rocker, thank you guys.

All right, good night.

Take it away.

We'll see you next week.

I'll see you next week.

We're just bound to be the few kinds of new horizons.