Cancer Sucks and Cathy Couture is Amazing in the Lair

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Jimmy, we have a special layer tonight.

Not cancer socks.

There's no other way to say it.

And Kathy Coteur knows this all too well,

which is why her new album Amazing is a testament to her spirit

and belief that music is her healing energy and life's legacy.

Here to tell us the amazing story is Kathy Coteur.

Kathy, welcome to Max Inc. Radio.

Hey, thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

We are thrilled to have you here Kathy.

Um, Jimmy Kay?

Yes.

There's something about dogs that she might want to talk about.

And I know how much you love your doggy.

Yes, Daddy is the queen of the house.

Yes, she is.

Yes, now Kathy, you got a dog.

And how is your training progressing?

Well, the dog's great.

I have some problems.

Oh, the training is for you.

Yeah, it's funny.

I went to a trainer.

I got a free consult.

Highly recommended gentleman.

And halfway through the consult, I realized I'm the problem.

Why are you the problem?

Well, I was rewarding the behaviors that I didn't want to see continue.

Oh, yeah, we do that.

Yeah.

And I was like, oh, it's okay, baby.

It's okay.

You're going to be fine.

You're like, oh, I'm getting attention.

I need to be more anxious.

So once I started ignoring that, I ended up with a really, really awesome dog.

Oh, my gosh.

The other training issues I've been having are forgetting delectable treats on the counter.

You know, it's very common that people reinforce the bad behavior in dogs.

I'm not a dog trainer, but I just ate a holiday in months.

And I've walked a couple of dogs.

So, but rewarding that good behavior that you want, that's the best part.

And it's so rewarding when your dog does what they want you want them to do

and have the behavior that you envision for them.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Farman Fleet lets you take your dog in with you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I was nervous because I had to get a garbage disposal replacement.

And I knew I was going to need a cart because they're heavy.

And so I had the dog in the cart and I thought, oh, this is going to go either really well

or I'm dying in flames.

And he just walked.

Just, it was perfect.

Oh, my gosh.

I know.

Okay.

It's all as well.

Oh, he's a mix.

Great pair of knees and lab.

I got him from the pound.

Oh, cool.

He's 60 pounds.

Oh, cool.

Thank you for adopting.

I love it.

Okay.

So I, the story, 2022, Kathy, you go to ladies rock camp.

And anyone who has been to ladies rock camp, it's, it's like candy.

You want to keep going back.

It is such a great time.

You sang in public for the first time since you were 14 years old.

So let's go back to the beginning.

Who is Kathy Couture and what's your back story?

Oh, my gosh.

How far do you want me to go back?

I like back, you know, from zero to 14.

You liked music, obviously.

I did.

Well, I grew up in a musical family.

Oh, good.

I played classical piano.

It was not uncommon to hear rock mine enough after dinner in the coming from the living room.

My mom was drummer in high school.

Played piano, saying, church choir.

My brother pretty much spent his adolescence plugged into the eight track.

And most of the guitar to Errol Smith toys in the attic.

I love that it was an eight track.

I'm old.

What can they say?

Oh, that's fine.

You're no older than any of us in here.

I think eight track is coming back.

It's, you know, it's time is coming.

It's circling around.

It is.

But, you know, I would sing after dinner with one of my parents.

They, you know, pull open the readers, digest, songbook and play a song.

And say, come on and sing this.

And so I would do that.

But my role in the family was not the singer.

I was the artist.

Oh, it is.

So I drew, I painted, I made dolls.

Oh, great.

So you stopped singing then.

Basically.

Well, it was interesting.

My mom and I, Vatican II came in.

I grew up Catholic.

And they opened the door for guitar masses.

And so my mom and I would do guitar masses.

And that was, I joke and say, we did the yellow loos in the amends.

Yeah.

But it was pretty cool.

It was a fun experience.

We'd be up there.

It gave us something to do together.

And, um, and then when I was 14,

just stuff happened that made me withdraw.

Yeah.

And I want to be in the public.

And I want to really be in a social circle anymore.

And anything musical just sort of fell away.

Yeah.

I've heard this kind of story before from people.

Yeah.

But somehow it circles back around.

Because here comes ladies rock can.

Yeah.

So what inspired you to do that?

You got back on stage.

And to sing again.

That was such a gift.

In 2018, I met a new friend.

And there were a lot of campfires and singing around the campfire.

And I was very comfortable with that.

And it was a lot of fun.

And his daughter was in girls' rock.

And so I went to a girls' rock showcase.

And it was like, oh my god.

And then I went to a ladies' rock showcase.

And one of the guys in the audience was sitting by himself.

And I went, hey, how you doing?

And he was like, yeah, my wife.

I watched a guitar before Friday.

So I kind of kept my eye on him.

And when he perked up, I looked.

And there was his wife up on stage.

I'm like, oh my god, this is magic.

This is just magic.

It's so empowering.

It's so powerful.

So when I had a chance, I signed up.

And I went, I'm so glad you did.

Oh, me too.

Hi.

What was the best part of ladies' rock camp, you think?

I was the support.

Was the camaraderie.

It was the collaboration on writing a song together.

And taking, you know, taking nothing.

And then all of a sudden, you have something three days later.

And you're performing in front of people.

It was so powerful.

And then I had kind of on a dare decided to do a side project.

I had heard at a James at last on the radio.

And I thought, oh god, I love that song.

And the person I was with having coffee said, oh, that's in your range.

And I'm like, what the heck do you know?

I was in my ring.

And we sang around campfires.

Again, I don't even know my range.

And I listened to it a couple times.

And then I practiced it with none other than Sean Del Marx.

Oh, yeah.

And she was like, oh my god, I love how you played with the melody.

And I was going to let her go with that.

But I had to be honest and say, no, I don't know the melody.

I was kind of riffing off of what you were playing.

And so then she made me rehearse it five more times.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

I was, you know, that's funny because I know that you worked with Beth Kelly.

And I was going to say, Paul, isn't she like a Marine drill sergeant

who has working with her?

She's the director.

No, no, no.

She's the musical director at Ladies Rock and Girls Rock.

And you'd think.

You'd think she'd be a drill sergeant.

But she is not.

She is the, she's got a really good velvet glove.

She's just the, the caring, the nurturing, the support that you can do it.

It just, it just doesn't stop.

It's really powerful.

Oh, she really is.

And does a perfect person to lead women's, or Ladies Rock and Girls Rock can't

because of the confidence that Beth Culey.

Big dude.

It's just, it's amazing.

Yeah.

And I love that.

So now we found out Shawnee is the drill sergeant.

Yeah.

Now we, now we know next time we're talking to Jen, but Jen chocolate and bottle rock.

Yes.

We know who the bottle rock is.

Who's the drill sergeant?

We should, are we renaming Jen chocolate and bottle rock as to the drill sergeant?

That drill sergeant's chocolate and bottle rockets.

Oh my God.

Sean Dell, I'm banging lunch.

Oh, sorry.

I'm so sorry.

That's okay.

They know who we are.

Yeah, they do.

They know how we are.

What, what was your Ladies Rock campaign name?

Well, the one, I've gone five times.

Oh, you've gone five times.

I've gone five times because it is just so addictive and so powerful and so amazing.

And the one band name I remember was earwax.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Um, there was, we had a tagline.

It was earwax, unpleasant, but necessary.

I think I want to go to Ladies Rock Camp with you.

Wow.

Great tagline.

Well, let's get to some music in the lair with Kathy Cotura presented by the Aaron Weber group.

Uh, shortly after joining Ladies Rock Camp, you were diagnosed with stage four cancer.

And the first song that you have for us tonight, it's, it's, uh, your cancer story.

It's called Cancer Sucks.

Let's listen before we start.

The first time you took my chance for immortality.

The second time I lost my hope and energy.

This third time you're trying to take my future from me.

Cancer sucks.

I could be sad.

I could be scared.

But I just get mad.

Cause I'm a fighter.

I could hide.

Head in the sand.

But I get back up.

Cause I'm a fighter.

Bad luck, bad choices mean I have to dance again.

I can't be sad.

I could be scared.

But I just get mad.

Cause I'm a fighter.

I could hide.

Head in the sand.

I could be scared.

But I just get mad.

Cause I'm a fighter.

Head in the sand.

But I get back up.

Cause I'm a fighter.

Changing perspective.

Still fighting the fight.

Finding clarity too.

See what is right.

What's really important to see the gifts in this life.

Faced with choices.

What to do with the time.

What really matters.

What to leave behind.

Who stands with me.

Who steps aside.

Cancer sucks.

But I'm still fighting.

We are local music,

and cancer sucks.

That's a song that's full of emotions.

For anybody who has anything to do with cancer.

Tell us about your story and the story in this song.

I think the first three lines say a lot.

This is my third cancer diagnosis.

I was in the early 90s,

and I had to have a hysterectomy,

but it was fixable by surgery.

I didn't have to have chemo radiation,

but I lost the ability to have more children.

The second time was in 2016 with breast cancer,

and that was exhausting.

That chemotherapy regimen was really hard.

It knocked the stuffing out of me,

and my father was dying at the same time.

It was just a very difficult time.

And then this diagnosis in 22

was I asked the doctors if it was fixable,

and they said no,

and that was devastating.

But it's treatable,

which we had to define with that meant.

We're going for longevity and quality of life,

as opposed to a cure.

I got to retire early.

That's a plus.

I've heard we've had family members,

and the biggest thing is keeping the family member positive,

and obviously living life and stuff.

There's going to be downtime.

How do you keep yourself positive going through this?

I suspect it's all revolves around the music here.

A lot of it has to do with the music,

but there's also a quote that I ran across

that just said it all for me,

and I wish I could remember who said it.

Fear cannot coexist with gratitude, humor, and curiosity.

And so I use a lot of humor,

not always appropriately,

but I use a lot of humor.

I focus a lot on what I can be grateful for,

and I am trying very hard to be curious.

I am legitimately curious

about what this process is going to be like

and what lies beyond.

And it says here that when you're singing or playing music,

your body doesn't hurt.

That's amazing.

It was such a gift.

I noticed it early on,

because early on,

I was quite a bit of pain,

and when I was drumming,

because I love drumming,

I didn't hurt.

And when I was singing, I didn't hurt.

So I organized a group of friends

to come over on Tuesday night

and do jam sessions at my house,

because when they were there, I didn't hurt.

And it was a good thing.

I'm glad I did it.

Yeah, yeah.

I think that's true.

You know, I play drums,

and sometimes, you know,

even just when you have aches and pains,

I think you start playing drums,

and you're into the song,

and you forget all about your aches and pains.

Yeah, there's something neurologically

about that cross-body movement.

Yeah.

When you're hitting the high tap

with the right and the snare with the left.

Right.

There's good stuff that happens in your body.

The joy receptors are turning off the pain receptors.

It's sad.

It's a whole looping.

It's pretty cool.

If you want to call or be part of the conversation,

ask a question for Kathy.

You could do that.

844-967-2789.

Call or text us right from the Civic Media app.

Well, let's get back to some music in the layer

with Kathy Couture presented by the Aaron Weber group.

Now, we're actually listening to songs from your album.

And the next song that you have for us tonight

is called Time to Fly.

What's going through your mind

when you're writing this song?

Thanks for asking.

Actually, Cancer Sucks and Time to Fly

are from my first album, Transitions.

Oh.

The rest of the songs are from my second album I'm using.

I was tricky with you guys.

See, here comes the humor.

It's good.

Time to fly was I was thinking, you know,

kind of getting a little model and thinking about my life

and just kind of what it was like.

And so when I started writing the song,

it was really about being happy with who I am right now.

And kind of the verses are kind of talking about

the journey to get to that spot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not sure where I'm going.

Didn't like where I'd been.

But right in this moment, I like who I am.

I used to smoke and drink and sweat.

I used to run around looking for that perfect life

that never could be found.

Not sure where I'm going.

Didn't like where I'd been.

But right in this moment, I like who I am.

I made a lot of changes, lost a lot of friends.

I've done my time inside, the prison in my head.

And now it's time to fly, reaching for the sky,

grabbing at the stars, pushing myself hard,

not afraid to dream.

Excepting what is real, changing what I can,

loving what I have, and grateful for what's been.

Not sure where I'm going.

Didn't like where I'd been.

But right in this moment, I like who I am.

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I like that song.

Time to fly, Kathy.

It's a very uplifting song.

Well, thank you.

You're welcome.

I like the song structure.

I guess I like the chorus.

It hits in the right way.

It does.

Wow.

It's so odd how music can bring different people together.

Beth Killy, as we've been talking a little bit about her,

she started to work with you to record what we've been listening to

from your first album.

And I recall hearing that you intended this to be a legacy album

to give to your son.

And then obviously he could listen to it, listen to you whenever he wanted.

Why did you decide you wanted to do that?

That's such an interesting question.

And there's a couple different answers.

One, I wanted to leave something behind.

I wanted to leave a legacy.

Two, I didn't want to be forgotten.

And I wanted in some way for the music to give him comfort

after I passed.

Oh, wow.

Now I'm going to cry.

I'm assuming he's heard all of your music.

Oh, yeah.

And so what does he say?

Oh, no.

And does he have a CD player?

You know, he collects old cars and I'm not sure he does.

He says things that are hard for me to repeat

because I'm kind of like, dude, come on.

Yeah.

He says, wow, I can't believe my mom's part of the music scene.

That's so great.

You're amazing.

You just decided to do this.

How did this happen?

You know, I listened to you sing in the car all these years

and I never knew you had it in you.

I'm like, dude.

Yeah.

Obviously it has been there.

You're just my mom.

And now you're doing these things.

And I'm like, wow.

And your CD is out and about now.

So how did that feel?

And then obviously you've done a CD release show.

Well, that was the part I thought, OK, I'm going to, you know,

with Beth and is, Beth encouraging me.

You know, we did the recording and had great people to work with.

Michael Mood did the keyboards on time to fly.

He was just amazing.

And we did that.

And I'm like, OK, good.

I got this CD, you know, I'm done.

And then they said, oh, no, you need to have a CD release party.

There's always a follow up.

I was like, what?

I have to do what?

We have to blew this in public.

And so we did that at the Red Rooster.

They were incredibly great about it.

And meanwhile, I kept writing songs.

And Beth said, I think we're going to have to do another one.

Yes.

Who else played on your first CD?

On the first CD, it was Beth Killy on guitar.

Dan Kennedy on bass.

Jenna Jonas on drums.

I mean, my god, the dream team.

Yes.

Michael Mood on keys on time to fly.

And then Bob Manor contributed to keys.

And the last.

After August.

Yeah.

And the last song of the album, which was a song to my son,

which I don't perform in public, because I can't get through it.

So he did the keys for that.

That's awesome.

So you performed at Ladies Rock Camp on stage, of course.

But then you did your first CD release party at the Red Rooster on stage,

performing your own music that you wrote.

Yep.

That had to been a very special moment for you.

I was a wee bit stressed.

Yeah.

But a wee bit.

It went well, right?

It did.

It was phenomenal.

I learned through this process that I didn't think I would,

but I really like performing.

There's something about being on the stage, having the mic in my hand,

and singing, and that connection with my bandmates, and with the audience.

That is just the adrenaline, the dopamine.

Yeah.

It's like healing energy.

Yeah.

Absolutely healing energy that synergy is so positive.

And nothing hurts.

Yeah.

And nothing hurts when I'm doing that.

It's just phenomenal.

Even singing.

Even singing.

Wow.

So there's hope for other musicians besides drummers.

I think so.

Well, let's get back to live music in the layer with Cathy Cotura,

presented by the Aaron Weber group.

The next song we're going to listen to tonight is a question.

Oh.

And it's called What Feels Your Soul?

My answer, squirrels, squirrels distracting me.

You have that look.

I'm a drummer.

Oh, god.

It just explains it.

Oh, my.

What's this song about?

This one was just about how we let ourselves get distracted by a lot of things,

material things, expectations, all of that.

And the root question is really what is enough enough and what feels our soul?

Beautiful.

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Live isn't always fair and we get what we got.

But what if you had all you needed?

Had everything you'd ever want?

Would it make you happy?

Would it fill your soul or not?

You've got to be thin to be pretty and rich to be smart.

Doesn't matter if you write, make music or make art.

Conformity isn't happiness that lives in your heart.

But what if you had all you needed?

Had everything you'd ever want?

Would it make you happy?

Would it fill your soul or not?

People get rich off of how bad you feel.

Training your time for things that aren't real.

Running from life afraid to look at.

What matters is the love you live in the end.

What if you had all you needed?

What if you had all you needed?

Had everything you'd ever want?

Would it make you happy?

Would it fill your soul or not?

Would it fill your soul or not?

What if you had all you needed?

What if you had all you needed?

It's that synergy growth thing.

You found Wisconsin's local music authority.

We're going to talk about some quotes.

Perseverance and confidence in your own abilities is all you will ever need.

That's one of my quotes.

What's on your Facebook?

I don't want to talk about Facebook right now.

It will not let me change my last name back to what it actually is.

I already shared one of my favorite quotes.

The end of commitment the universe conspires to help you.

I've noticed that to be true.

When I'm all in on something it all just kind of flows.

I have to look mine up but mine is very much about the universe as well.

I have a plan to take your life and make it a great story.

Who said that?

The universe.

Wow.

What does it record that?

Sometimes you just got to go with it right?

Trust in what is there.

I don't know if I have it.

I don't think I have one of the quotes on my Facebook page where you're supposed to.

Do you have a quote you like though or something that sticks out?

Pretty belly rubs.

Pretty belly rubs are better than paying for belly rubs.

There you go.

You can pay for belly rubs?

Yeah.

Wow.

It's an option.

It's a check.

You just check it off.

And then you pay instead of getting it for free.

It's Jimmy Kay's business.

Yeah.

So Kathy didn't know.

You can radio people.

It's not people.

It's Pat's.

She was thinking of you.

Yeah.

I have to have a tail and be able to look places that you can when you're a human.

I think we should walk away from this.

My other favorite quote is rhetoric and traps the ignorant in the pleasure of the moment.

You are D.

I was a philosophy student.

I didn't know that.

I feel attacked.

Wow.

Okay.

I love this conversation.

All right, Kathy.

I'm going to ask you now.

We're going to move ahead.

February 2023.

Well, no.

It was a 22.

You got your diagnosis.

But by January of 24, so earlier this year, you were working on the other album, right?

Well, actually, I got the diagnosis in January of 23.

Okay.

And I get really, it motivates you.

So by summer of 23, I was talking with Beth and we were recording.

And the first album was released January of 24.

Oh, wow.

And that was transitions.

I'm sorry, rocker.

Yeah.

And then the second album was released in July of this year.

That's really fast.

It is.

Yeah.

But we were all kind of like on a roll.

On a roll.

Do we have, you know, what's the prognosis?

And, you know, the terminal diagnosis does two things.

One, it can be, I chose to take it as something that would really motivate me.

And it also creates a little pressure to, you know, what's on your bucket list?

What do you really want to get done?

Because if my quote used to be, if not now, when, now it's like, well, it better be now.

Because I'm not sure I have a one in me.

Well, and this is interesting because you called that one transitions.

That was your first one.

You called it transitions for a reason because of where you were at that time with your diagnosis.

Right.

But then the second album becomes amazing.

Yeah.

And what happened then?

Well, it started when I went on vacation to Florida.

And that was just, it was just so much fun.

Yeah.

It was really good vacation.

I stayed with friends and I just had a really good time.

And I wrote a song about it called vacation.

Oh, the song is terrific.

And then I got thinking about stuff.

And I thought, you know, I got to put a positive spin on these things.

You can't just keep writing about cancer and life's questions and all of that.

And I thought, what is one thing that we just don't hear enough?

And that's, that we're amazing.

And it was a tour conversation with my son on the phone.

And he's like, no, mom, you're amazing.

You have to, you have, you are amazing.

You have to say it.

And I'm like, no, I don't have to say it.

So you tell me one of the things that makes me amazing is my humility.

If I say I'm amazing, I'm not humble anymore.

So this is a catch-22.

So I have to have two hours.

I said, okay, fine.

I'm amazing.

Goodbye.

I love you.

I'll hang up the phone.

But I put the word amazing on my song list, song ideal list.

And I woke up one morning and it was like, we're all amazing.

Just going through life and putting one foot in front of the other.

We all have histories.

We all have past.

We're all amazing.

So I wrote that song and then it just, it just seemed appropriate to make it the title

of the album.

Yeah.

Now who is on this album?

Same, same players?

Same crew.

Same, same bad station.

Yeah.

When you got it going up.

Well, when you have rock stars like that, why give them up for anybody else?

Yeah, okay.

Oh, it's, it's, it's really.

It's a good team.

The one person I didn't mention that was, that played on one of the song's untransitions

was Danica E. She played upright bass on one of the songs.

And she was, she was good.

I didn't want her to feel slated because that was pretty cool.

Yeah.

And you had mentioned earlier that you're always writing and that's, and that has led to another

album that's going to be coming soon.

Well, hopefully not that soon.

I mentioned.

I said, when did it be cool if I could get three albums out in one year?

Oh my gosh.

And that's just kind of looked at me and said you're not Taylor Swift.

That's going to say it's, it's like quicker than the Beatles.

Okay, we can wait.

But, you know, I keep writing and I keep, you know, things just, just calm.

Yeah.

Well, you mentioned vacation, the song.

You said you were in Florida with friends.

Yeah.

Should we just give it a listen?

I've, I've heard this song and I, now Jimmy Kay, this is one of my favorite songs.

All right.

Well, let's check it out right now.

Here, Kathy Cordura, a maxing radio.

Better than a staycation, better than, medication, better than visualization.

Give me on a vacation.

Walking on the beach with a pocket full of shells.

Feeling happy watching the waves swell.

A lady walks by and likes my smile.

I haven't felt this good in quite a while.

Better than a staycation, better than, medication, better than visualization.

Give me on a vacation.

Sometimes life can bring you down.

You gotta pack your stuff and get out of town.

You're not running away because you'll be bad.

You'll be stronger than once and after you realize.

A change in scenery and new places to go.

Palms instead of pines and instead of snow.

Watching the waves and walking in the wet.

All the bad things are easy to forget.

Better than a staycation, better than, medication, better than visualization.

Give me on a vacation, better than, medication, better than, medication, better than,

medication, hey Beth, my child is your pinky colladas.

T pinky colladas all the way.

Maxi, Pacific Media, live in a layer with Kathy Couture.

I had to applaud.

I liked that song too.

Isn't that fun?

Vacation, better than medication.

Yes.

That's a great line.

I like that line.

And I agree.

I love taking vacations.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

We forget how important it is to get that mental break.

Do you have any plans to go anywhere or any kind of travel all night?

Anything else on the bucket list other than music?

I would like to go up to the Duluth area and see like Superior again.

Yeah.

And I would love to go to New Orleans, but I want to wait till we're done with her kin season.

Yeah.

If you go to New Orleans, may I recommend Amtrak, the city of New Orleans, train for Chicago

down to New Orleans?

I have totally thought about that.

Get in the room, Matt.

Get in the room, Matt.

You'll have fun.

Awesome.

He's the guy to talk to.

Well, here Jimmy works for Amtrak.

Kathy, you reach for music to heal.

And the music scene reached back with love and support.

Tell us about the healing energy you get from the players in the Madison music scene.

Oh, my gosh.

It has been so impressed that the generosity of spirit has been phenomenal.

The support, the, it's not a sense of being competitive.

I don't ever get the feeling that somebody's trying to push somebody down to make them look

better.

It's just a really amazing group of people, like Dana Perry, Cargo Coffee, Red Rooster,

the Girls Rack Ladies Rack, you know, just, just all of that, that vibe is, is supportive

and, you know, collaborative and, you know, nobody has, I thought in the beginning

that people were being kind and like in my music, because I had this terminal diagnosis.

And they quickly told me that that was BS.

Yes.

Thank you.

Yes.

I made sure it didn't swear.

Yes, careful.

Yep, that was good too.

But I love the line that they told you it was BS.

Yeah.

Because it was, you know, I mean, anybody that's in music has a certain level of insecurity,

because it's such an intensely personal thing when you put something internal out there.

And to be received positively was, was really powerful.

Well, speaking of personal, you don't get to play out very often because of your health.

But how about this?

You are actually going to do a cover show at the Sock County Nursing Home for your Mama's

birthday.

Hey, the first thing I did after Lady's Rack camp, because my mom is in the nursing home,

and she can't get out to travel and she wanted to, well, I want to hear you sing.

So I, I talked to Shandell and said, hey, would you want to do something?

And she was like, oh, yeah, okay, that'd be cool.

You should talk to Dan Kennedy.

So I reached out to Dan Kennedy, who I barely knew.

And a couple of other friends, John Jacobs, Kirk Stone, we got together and we formed a group.

And we had two rehearsals.

We came up with 15 songs.

And we went up to the Sock County Nursing Home and we played.

And we got into like one song and they started just pulling people in.

It was a full house and there was a dog there.

And it was just so cool.

And people were tapping their toes and singing along.

And again, my mom was front and center.

She was just, oh, yeah.

That's my daughter, that's my daughter.

She was, she was loving it.

And afterwards they said, hey, can you come again?

They said, well, I'm not sure, because, you know, I don't know what's going on with my health.

Because at that time, you know, I was still sitting down.

I wasn't standing to sing.

And as it turned out, you know, I had a period of partial remission.

And now I'm back doing chemo, but I'm feeling up to it.

It's your 85th birthday.

It just so happened.

Everybody was available on that day.

So we're going to go up and we're going to do an hour set again.

Slightly different composition of people.

But, you know, we've got a 12 song set list.

And we're going to do vacation and amazing.

Perfect.

Because, you know, we figured they can handle it.

Yes.

I think they can.

Do you play at the cargo coffee jumpstart, Jim?

I love the cargo coffee jumpstart, Jim.

Okay.

And Dan Kennedy has got a great thing going there.

Dana Kennedy.

Dan, a little bit of that.

Dana Kennedy.

Dana Perry runs sound.

And it's, it's amazing.

I started out just singing.

Then I brought my hand drum and started doing a little bit of that.

And lately I've been bringing my guitar and trying to, I'm trying to learn that skill.

So I've got a ways to go.

Wonderful.

What night is that?

Is that Sunday night?

That is second and fourth Sundays.

Up from five to seven.

Cargo coffee.

Eastwash.

And you've such a good job over there.

Cargo.

Let's hear another song here.

We're starting around a little short of time.

So let's get to the song.

We'll talk about it after we hear it.

It's Kathy Courtsour.

Live into layer.

Here's her song, Mother Love.

I'm a child to you and you seem surprised.

I look at your face, look in your arms.

I touch your hand, I find memories.

But do you still remember me?

I had to let go of the past, to be with you.

I took the steps and talked it through.

There's still some work for us to do.

And I still need you, Mother Love.

I used to take care of me.

You thought it was right, but the tables have turned.

Now I fight your fondness.

I searched for the loving memories.

When I found them, they brought me peace.

I had to let go of the past, to be with you.

I took the steps and talked it through.

There's still some work for us to do.

And I still need you, Mother Love.

Those and daughters can be the best.

Did I wait too long to find forgiveness?

We can learn to do more than shout.

We've got the chance to work things out.

There's a spark in your eyes and you say my name.

I say I love you, Mom, and you say the same.

We hug for a while and I pull away.

I look in your eyes and there's nothing to say.

I had to let go of the past, to be with you.

We took the steps and talked it through.

There's still some work for us to do.

And I still need you, Mother Love.

And you need me too.

Max and Pacific Media, we are a local music Catholic tour.

And Mother Love, I was going to ask you what that song was about.

But it's about Mom.

Of course.

It's about Mom and what a lot of us are dealing with when our moms are having some issues with memories.

We get that.

For sure.

All right.

Emotional.

845 is coming up at 10 o'clock and Rob Roberts at 11.

Make sure you get the podcast at maxinkredio.com rocker.

All right, Jimmy.

Guys, we're coming up here on the end now.

You said you don't have a face a website, but we can find you on Facebook.

And we have to look for Kathy Cotur, but we have to spell your name backwards.

That was that little thing you were alluding to before, right?

Yeah.

You wouldn't let me change that.

So let's see your name is spelled C-O-U-T-U-R-E.

So, E-R-U-T-U-O-C.

I just love you had a fancy last name when I found you.

It's crazy.

It's all right.

We have time for this last song, though.

And I'm looking forward to this one.

It's the title track of your latest album, Amazing.

So tell us about this song.

No, it's just something we just need.

We just need to hear it.

We don't tell each other and we don't tell ourselves enough that we're amazing.

And we should.

What is going to be coming up in the future for you?

I don't know.

I'd like to get a third album out.

I'd like to be able to schedule maybe some more opportunities to play.

I'd like my health to hold steady so I can do that.

Well, you are amazing.

You are amazing.

Yeah.

We are so happy that you were able to come in and hang with us.

I am so grateful for this opportunity.

You guys have been incredible.

You're fun.

Let's check out the song.

Yeah, let's do this.

It's amazing.

It's going to rock.

It's vaccine-class civic media.

You're fun too.

So much to pull you down to make you feel sad.

Why is it so easy to believe all the past?

If someone talked to you the way you talked to yourself.

You'd punch them in the throat.

You'd kick the love about.

In case no one's told you.

You are amazing.

Look at all the things you do.

You are amazing.

Think of all that you've been through.

You are amazing.

God has said that it's true.

You are amazing.

We did up in the morning.

But you feed on the ground.

Throw on some clothes and get around.

You do the things you have to.

Might even have some fun.

But at the end of the day, there's more to be done.

In case no one's told you.

You are amazing.

Look at all the things you do.

You are amazing.

Think of all that you've been through.

You are amazing.

God has said that it's true.

You are amazing.

A-M-A-Z-I-M-G

A-M-A-Z-I-M-G

A-M-A-Z-I-M-G

We are amazing.

Yeah, you and me.

You look just so far from the things I'd bring you down.

We're in a smile more than a frown.

You say it's not a big deal.

You're just working to survive.

But you're being humble about staying alive.

In case no one's told you.

You are amazing.

Look at all the things you do.

You are amazing.

Think of all that you've been through.

You are amazing.

God has said that it's true.

You are amazing.

You are amazing.

Look at all the things you do.

You are amazing.

Think of all that you've been through.

You are amazing.

God has said that it's true.

You are amazing.

Talk about some self-confidence right there.

I'm so glad I didn't hear it with others.

It is wonderful to meet you tonight.